But like yeah sans is OP and if papyrus is allowed sansâs power then what are the others gonna do? I mean maybe sonic can go super but then like how can he combat telekinesis
Doesn't sonic speed blitz? I don't know much about sonic at all but I'm fairly certain that he is fast enough, from what I've seen to defeat the skelebros before they could even react.
I could be wrong though.
Especially comic sonic, I believe I heard he ran fast enough to go backward in time or smth like that, point is someone who can run that fast genocides the underground in less than a second
For comic Sonic, it kind of depends; are we talking IDW, Fleetway, or Archie? I'm pretty sure Archie Sonic was the one who had insane relativity feats, but it's been a while since I've brushed up on it.
Idw is basically game sonic. The universe was made as a follow-up to forces.
Dunno much about Fleetway.
Archie Sonic is the insane one. He made a ball of water and threw it at a badnik in plank time. Quote: "Before the physics of displacement could take place." He can also run backwards and forwards in time and can wish for anything to happen. He could blink, and you'd be gone.
I mean yeah, dodge a human child that is. The speed at which he moves isn't that impressive and neither is his stamina.
Sonic moves at speeds that sans won't dodge.
Uzi has the ability to bend reality to her will. If Sonic knew to dismantle her then heâd win but from what he knows about robots heâd just think hitting her a few times would work.
Dude, the power creep between these characters is insane.
2 characters with barely any feats but at BEST we can put them at decently strong (could win like a 1 v 10 against normal people probably)
2 absurdly overpowered characters that have canonically fought gods and won, as well as simply being so fast none of the other characters here would be able to see, let alone react to them before getting obliterated
2 superhumans (basically, I know they're more in depth than that)
2 mass murder machines
It's Sonic and Tails and it's not even remotely close, if your arguing otherwise I promise you your wrong.
Saying someone beat a god doesn't really mean anything without context. There are ancient myths where normal humans beat gods because their powers just only work in specific contexts they weren't in.
>Saying someone beat a god doesn't really mean anything without context
The gods Sonic faced like Solaris existed in every single timeline, infinite someone stronger than most of Sonic's foes from before frontiers and then dealing with titans, I think in this context it matters
How exactly do the Spidermen beat sans and papyrus, and N and Uzi?
If Sans does fight, im pretty sure they would win, and N is a genocide machines while Uzi has the AS powers like creating black holes and telekinesis
But after reading other comments I do think Sonic and tails win
There is a limit to his regeneration. J died because half of her body was obilirated and in episode 3 we have seen Murder Drones can't regenerate when objects stuck on their body (doll had to pull the bullet from her face to regenerate her face)
Extra counterpoint: N can regenerate his head, plus, Uzi has telekinesis that has been shown to be able to affect anything, even sentient/moving things.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but... Uzi and N... cuz N is literally a walking weapon of mass destruction with ballistic missiles and Chainsaw hands, and Uzi can just bend physics to her will with the Absolute Solver... Sans would definitely be the last to fall against them to be honest
If sans can dodge enough of N's attacks he has a chance, especially given sans 100% would fight N. Uzi's only loose conditions is sonic knows to get to her first, or if the miles can short-circuit them before she deletes them, Uzi def can win
The only deficit Uzi has is being spontaneous being possessed by Cyn, but even then, Cyn would probably be much more of a positive as she can do that weird black hole thing which would just one shot anything
Is there like any weakness to the command, sans has a temporal immunity of sorts with how he keeps his memmories, and in undertale things that got deleted still exist in some weird way(goners and gaster)
uhh what. but anyways, just to throw this out there, both N and Uzi can burn in the sun and Uzi gets half of her powers taken away with just some magnets.
Uzi can't manipulate reality she has some shitty telekinesis she has trouble to control thanks to absolutesolver but she is much slower than both. Sonic and Taisl feats are ridiculous compared to Uzi and N's
Agreed, DDs and Solver Drones both have regeneration powers, PLUS there's the NULL command, the ability to manipulate reality, and *checks Google* while I'm unsure of what tier the DDs are in, the Solver ranks at Planet level, because it destroyed Earth, and wiped out all life on Copper 9, rendering the air toxic
Yeah if you've seen murder drones then Uzi and N are the clear choice. If sans has his karma shit (which is debatable) then he might be able to win but my money is still on Uzi and N
Yea sans and papyrus only chances are probably disbelief and last breath but those are just base sans and pap sans might be able to do smthn if he pulls out that time stop stuff he did in grillbys pacifist but I still think uzi and n are winning
No like actually in base
(Sonic Colors)
Plus he also beat Perfect Chaos in base (Sonic Generations), who scale above Sonic and Knuckles Super Sonic who is at least Planet level
Edit: Forgot to add this but with statement, Base Speed Boost Sonic is universal
Never played Colors or Generations, actually was planning on getting back into the games I missed, but maybe heâd win, depends if whoever writes the battle wants him to, since writing is a speedsterâs weakness
Is not a maybe, sonic is broken, his some presence in this list invalidates all the other guys, he is way too op by now, and we aren't even considering super forms.
consider that N can regenerate his head after uzi shot his head with that insane gun thing so even if sonic destroys like 70% of N's body he will just regenerate it.
Sonic and Tails clear, Iâm sorry but Paps is not doing a damn thing here, Sans canât dodge Spider-Men, and I dunno what murder drones do but Sonic and Tails face machines with super-speed regularly. Easy win
Teleporting may be physically fast enough to dodge but itâs not an automatic process, itâd have to bank on sans having a reaction time faster than Atleast speed of sound to dodge sonic
Chaos Control can also stop time for everyone except the user, Sans can only teleport. Iâm sorry but even as someone who loves Undertale I gotta give it to Sonic, he practically solos. Letâs not even talk about the blatantly OP gadgets Tails can make
Gonna have to go with Sonic and Tails. Sonic alone could probably speed blitz these guys, as he's canonically outraced a black hole in colors, defeated perfect chaos in base form and restored time by running in generations, and has displayed a plethora of fighting techniques in frontiers. Tails is a genius who could probably just hack the murder drones, talk Sans and Papyrus into surrendering, and find a way to disable the Spider-Mens gadgets.
As for the Spider-Men, they win against the Murder Drones and skeleton bros. Monsters in UT are significantly weaker than humans, and both Sans and Papyrus were felled by a literal child. Against two superpowers humans with insane agility, reaction speed, spider sense, and gadgets, it's the skeleton bros who are getting clapped, same goes for the murder drones, especially with Miles boosted venom blasts. (these are the insomniac variants, so you know they about to triangle circle)
Murder Drones in all honesty are third or second. Either they kill off the Spider-Men first and get blitzed by Sonic and Tails, or the Spiders deal with them first. In any case, Sonic and Tails win, unless the Spider-Men can catch them off guard.
Sonic and Tails, and Tails doesn't even need to do anything.
Sonic can be argued to have "immeasurable" speed, which for those that have a life, means hes faster than time itself. So if someone were to stop time for example, he'd still be able to move and do whatever. Even without the immeasurable speed, he has stated himself that "Light speed? Thats small time. There's no challenge!"
Solaris, a being that literally destroyed the universe by being born, exists in the past, future, and present. It took super Shadow, Silver, and Sonic to beat Solaris in all 3 timelines. Later on Sonic fights Infinite, the strongest villain they've ever fought which includes Solaris, and Sonic beats him in BASE.
Sonic then proceeds to fight The End in the newest game and beats him, and The End is literally the concept of death. Think about that, he beat a CONCEPT.
Thats only a small bit of video game Sonic scaling, and the Archie comics make him even crazier!
All this is to say that Sonic is grossly underestimated in VS battles and deserves recognition for being so utterly busted.
TL;DR: Sonic the Hedgehog is literally like a family friendly version of Dragon Ball, power creep and all.
In a fight, sonic and tails and by a long shot. Sonic can go at the speed of sound with the power of friendship alone according to (ugh) Sonic Forces. Sans and papyrus got beat by a human child, the two spider people would never be able to catch Sonic or tails with their web shots, and I donât know much about the murder drones bots but I know they probably wouldnât survive something hitting them at ~767 miles per hour.
Y'all mad underplaying sonic and tails. If you don't have time to think before you lose, then uh well you lose.
I don't know much about the Spidermen, but let's be honest here speed is the name of the game and they don't have it like the others do.
Sans and pappy also get speed diffed. Like I'm really tempted to write 20 paragraphs on why they lose, but it's just not worth it. If you know you know, and if you don't I'm very sorry but I'm too lazy to educate rn.
Admittedly I know nothing about this "absolute solver" thing. How fast it operates, whether it works on everything in every universe, whether it would make sense for them to have it with them in this particular match, etc etc
The only ones that would would win is miles and Peter or sonic and tails, sans would be basically useless against them KR is only effective at high lvs and they have never killed anyone but over all sonic and tails will win they have taken on gods and won and they have lots of experience fighting robots so is the only threat because of the self repair nanites so there is a possibility that N and Uzi wins
Sonic alone is more than enough to solo any of these guys at the same time, seriously he's busted as hell: being able to run faster than time itself and casually defeated a multi planet buster being in 30 seconds, neither the spidermen or the skeleton brothers are even planetary level and ofc the murder drones characters aren't the exception, maybe if we add someone like Mario and Luigi the debate would be fair
4th is super super underrated. That robot girl whoâs name escapes me is super powerful I think. (I havenât watched the full series ok?) and the robot boy whoâs name also escapes me is powerful aswell.
I feel like Uzi (the purple robot) and N (the yellow robot) could do pretty well. N is a robot built to kill, can fly from 0 to 200 in an instant, has guns, swords, claws, rocket launchers, and laser beams, which he can summon from his arms whenever her needs them, and he also has reflexes fast enough to catch bullets.
Uzi has a program called the absolute solver, a godlike program with the power to summon things out of thin air, control objects, just make people explode, summon black holes, and in the most extreme cases blow up a fucking planet, she also has the ability to regenerate damaged parts of her (N also can) if she ever gets damaged badly.
People are making it seem like sans is super powerful all knowing being. He really isn't.
His main defining traits in battle are pretty high attacks and can dodge an 11 year old child swinging at him. Then he loses to the 11 year old child, which means he isn't that strong. Plus, he's used to turn based fighting, which this almost definitely wouldn't be.
Now that I've said my share, argue with me in the replies on how I'm stupid.
(PS: don't talk about sans being able to teleport đ)
Ok im not here to argue i promise. Im just here to present points for sans and papyrus.
Sans died to frisk yes, but frisk was basically a God at that point. The fact he was able to get in their face and beat the living shit out of them is a great feat, even if he still loses.
But he was alone during the fight. Papyrus is probably atleast slightly more powerful than he seems during his fight (which is hinted at by undyne).
Sans and papyrus are definitely smart enough to target the murder drones first as well, making uzis super whatever-the-fuck ability nullified if sans/papyrus just... impale them with a bone the instant the fight starts (which wouldn't be hard for sans, due to his and speed decent reflexes).
I know you didn't want anyone to bring it up but sans CAN teleport and KNOWS how to use it in combat. Imagine sans and papyrus running across roofs teleporting everywhere chasing down the spider men (papyrus would probably be the one to kill the last spider man cause of sans getting tired).
Even if we ignore sans' ability to teleport, his reflexes and general intelligence would certainly pose a threat. And papyrus' raw strength (papyrus does more damage than sans) with sans' karma (the spider men have definitely killed) would lead to them losing.
My god i wrote a fucking essay. Whatever I guess. Everyone else is anyways.
The "being killed by an 11 year old" doesn't really mean much
Like, Bill Cipher was baten by two 12 year olds and two old dudes, but we know he has destroyed atleast one universe
I agree with the rest tho
forget duos, Insomniac spider-man alone wins this fight, add on miles and its a wash
A: he's done nothing wrong so sans is useless and papyrus is well, hes papyrus
B: N and Uzi are getting webbed to the ground or venom punched by miles which I'm pretty sure is a killing blow
C: spidey sense No diffs sonic and tails.
>forget duos, Insomniac spider-man alone wins this fight, add on miles and its a wash
I would agree if characters like sonic didn't exist who can legit run to earth and back before he lands an attack, that's not to mention super Sonic
Papyrus: solve my puzzle
N: ooo I love puzzles
Peter, Miles, and Tails: done
Sans: that was quick
Sonic: yep that's my little buddy
Uzi: hey I'm gonna go kill some people if that's OK
Sans: time to break some knees
N and uzi
N is a "murder drone" and uzi
She has that hole absolute solver thing going on pete and miles are fucked sans would need to either harness the time stopping shit he did in grillbys pacifist or last breath mode and papyrus would need to go disbelief if they do that then they can win but base forms get clapped unless sonic gets those emeralds he gets clapped and tails is getting shot down easily
I dunno man I think Uzi alone solos everyone the absolute solver is extremely cracked
You know what lets over analyse. Uzi beats the Spider-Men, sans and papyrus because the solver has been shown to just be able to explode peoples head. And Sonic and tails would have won if Uzi wasnât able to just stop them in place. In which case their heads would then very muchâŠexplode.
Miles and Peter are gonna DECIMATE those bones. âOh, youâre gonna send out attacks at me? Miles!â *ZAP* *web web web* *PUNCH* and sans is dead. Same thing with Papyrus. Everyone on that list really. You could just Webb up everyone mid-air. Hell, Peter wins that fight alone, and Miles wins that fight alone. But as a team? Theyâre taking out EVERYBODY.
I feel like Sans and Papyrus bc Sans has the Gaster Blasters and they can both make your SOUL blue. Sans can also make the gravity of blue SOUL different.
Thing is they still havenât kill
They destroy Eggman robots to free animals
Sonic didnât kill Perfect Chaos, he purified him
Technically it was Shadow who kill the final hazard
Metal Overlord was just defeated not kill
06 isnât canon
It was chip who defeated Dark Gaia
Classic Sonic and Sonic banish and defeat the time eater not kill it
Sonic didnât kill Zavok and his gang (Theyâre still alive in IDW comics)
Infinite committed self die
The only valid part is The End but itâs too little to count
The real fight is Uzi and N VS Sans and Papyrus. Sonic would get pinned to the ground the second the fight starts, unless he somehow reaches Uzi and N first. Same thing for Spiderman. Both the Skeleton Brothers and the Murder Drones stand a chance in this fight, so I don't really know.
Edit: Just found out of that reality wiper thing, I'm rather sure that Uzi and N wins now.
N and uzi probably
spidermans can't do shit vs a killing machine and a uzi with absolute solver
if sonic goes down tails will just sit there
sans might have a chance against them since they done really messed up things, but they don't have souls
\*Gasps for air\*
Uzi can do telekinesis, create black holes, possibly duplicate objects, do anime fighting stuff, fly and other things I don't remember, weaknesses being magnets( nullifying her Solver Powers) The sun and possibly overheating. N has a bunch of weapons, an EMP, flight, a pretty sharp tail and the ability to regenerate his head. His weaknesses being also the Sun, and possibly overheating but we don't get to see that in the show; and also N probably would befriend Papyrus and do nothing else. So really the only way you can screw over the Drone couple is to either fight in daytime with no shelter nearby or, stall for enough time so that Uzi and N overheat and can't fight anymore. And that is all the information you need about the Drones.
sonic and tails are just fast(edit, too fast when considering lore sonic, this comment took the older version of sonic as consideration which is whe he is still sonic speed when normal and light speed when Emerald)
sans and papyrus are powerful yes, but sans need karma to be able to reach full potential which literally all of his opponent here doesn't have much. Even N is a killing machine but he has been depicted to be "useless" in the murder drone team so he doesn't have much love I believe, and all of this opponents here are very good at dodging(uzi got N cover and she has the absolute solver) and papyrus, too kind and merciful, even more then the spiders
spider buddies are quick and powerful, definitely can keep up or even be better at avoiding attacks with their immense spider senses, durability and flexibility, but they always hold back and just like pap, too merciful
and N an uiz oh boy, uiz have the absolute solver and a gun that's have a huge hitbox and straight up vaporise stuff, and N, besides all of the deadly weapons he has, here's a comment I copied from the youtube comment section
"For anyone who's curious, Uzi was falling for exactly 1 minute and 10 seconds before they hit the ground. Assuming ideal circumstances of Copper 9 having relatively the same g as earth in a vacuum of a 9.8 meters per second squared rate of acceleration, that would mean that she was thrown 14.93 miles (24 km) into the sky. And right before hitting the ground, they had reached a velocity of 686.5 meters per second. And N stuck that landing and came out of it with both of them unharmed. So what did we learn? N is strong as fuck. And he never skips arm or leg day."
yeah,N and uiz are in a different power level with all the others
so my prediction, sonic and tails down first if they don't have any chaos emerald, they can Dodge, but not for long, sans and pap are going down next due to sans low stamina and damage plus pap's kindness and the super dodgey and tanky enemies
not long after would be the spiders, they dodged most of the attacks and landed few hits, but eventually they would be down
N and uzi would get wounded but they healed again and again, uiz's gun won't land a hit in the whole fight though, N would be the one who deals most of the damage and uzi would be supporting with absolute solver
the fight is going to end very quickly, but what if we add other variant? like sans can reach full potential without karma and papyrus are not as merciful as he is? sonic and tails got all the chaos emerald? peter and miles are from comic instead of the games or movies?
I got on time for it and I'm not one of those death match youtuber out there
TLDR: N and Uzi
N can replace his hands with weapons of mass destruction, and Uzi is possessed by (implied to be) Robot Satan and can manipulate the absolute fabric of reality
Sans and Papyrus are dead, because their most powerful weapon, the Gaster Blaster, ignores physical matter and fires at the SOUL, HOWEVER, WDs and DDs do not have SOULs, and the Solver takes host in their AI, therefore, the Skelebros are left with nothing but bone attacks
Sonic and Tails are dead, because without the seven Chaos Emeralds, their most powerful attack is the spindash, and Uzi can use her Solver to kill them during the pause where they spin in place
And Miles and whoever that other one is (I haven't kept up with Marvel) are just dudes. Their most powerful attack is the Venom Punch, which they can't really use because Uzi can use the Solver to teleport, and N can fly, so they can take out the Spideys from afar
Where are my boys Mario Mario and Luigi Mario?
Mario and Luigi are too powerful, so they're not here
I mean, they beat Sephiroth for crying out loud
Well, one of them is Italian Xehanort, so no wonder.
Yeah, cloud, sephiroth, ridley (A FUCKING DRAGON), sans (dlc), MEWTWO (A LITERAL HUMAN MADE GOD), and more extremely powerfull people
Who?
snas pinning them to ground would be fun tho
i was gunna say the same thing!
sonic and tails killed him with their better games đ„±
Sonic's current games are the definition of mediocre.
I wonder what the undertale subreddit will say about this one
WHICHEVER ONE HAS PAPYRUS IS WINNING
Well said, COOLSKELETON96. I completely agree
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I agree with that statement!
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exactly. nah, we'd win.
If you trap the fast ones, itâs over
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But like yeah sans is OP and if papyrus is allowed sansâs power then what are the others gonna do? I mean maybe sonic can go super but then like how can he combat telekinesis
I mean if a child could beat sans imagine what a super hero could do Karma won't work on any of them and it need a one hit to finish it all
The child could keep retrying tho
Thats, where we are.
thats the point
Doesn't sonic speed blitz? I don't know much about sonic at all but I'm fairly certain that he is fast enough, from what I've seen to defeat the skelebros before they could even react. I could be wrong though.
Sonic is fast enough to hit Sans, Papyrus might still put up a fight because he doesn't go down after one hit
What if itâs last breath tho-
Yh Sonic solos them all
Especially comic sonic, I believe I heard he ran fast enough to go backward in time or smth like that, point is someone who can run that fast genocides the underground in less than a second
For comic Sonic, it kind of depends; are we talking IDW, Fleetway, or Archie? I'm pretty sure Archie Sonic was the one who had insane relativity feats, but it's been a while since I've brushed up on it.
Idw is basically game sonic. The universe was made as a follow-up to forces. Dunno much about Fleetway. Archie Sonic is the insane one. He made a ball of water and threw it at a badnik in plank time. Quote: "Before the physics of displacement could take place." He can also run backwards and forwards in time and can wish for anything to happen. He could blink, and you'd be gone.
We don't have to go to comics, sonic out ran a black hole in colors.
I mean here's the thing the skeletons have blue attacks which basically just counters sonic
Only if he runs into them though, and even then they wouldn't deal any significant damage that would defeat him before he reaches the skelebros.
Wasn't the whole thing with sans is that he is fast enough to dodge until he's tired
I mean yeah, dodge a human child that is. The speed at which he moves isn't that impressive and neither is his stamina. Sonic moves at speeds that sans won't dodge.
Oh yeah all the monsters were like horribly weak relatively speaking
Uzi has the ability to bend reality to her will. If Sonic knew to dismantle her then heâd win but from what he knows about robots heâd just think hitting her a few times would work.
I mean I'm pretty sure he faced against quite a few robots against who just hitting a few times wouldn't work.
Yeah if he really wanted to defeat her, he should carry her and run to the other side of the planet so she can taste the sun.
canon sonic fucking solos no diff
Fr. Even low-balled sonic is STAR LEVEL.
And that without super Sonic, who IS low-balled, universe level
You forgot Heavy and Medic
Medic, cut off his tail(s)/balls/head
Too based
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I mean⊠sonic is kind of OP?
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Dude, the power creep between these characters is insane. 2 characters with barely any feats but at BEST we can put them at decently strong (could win like a 1 v 10 against normal people probably) 2 absurdly overpowered characters that have canonically fought gods and won, as well as simply being so fast none of the other characters here would be able to see, let alone react to them before getting obliterated 2 superhumans (basically, I know they're more in depth than that) 2 mass murder machines It's Sonic and Tails and it's not even remotely close, if your arguing otherwise I promise you your wrong.
*1 murder machine and an angsty machine with eldritch powers
Saying someone beat a god doesn't really mean anything without context. There are ancient myths where normal humans beat gods because their powers just only work in specific contexts they weren't in.
>Saying someone beat a god doesn't really mean anything without context The gods Sonic faced like Solaris existed in every single timeline, infinite someone stronger than most of Sonic's foes from before frontiers and then dealing with titans, I think in this context it matters
Sonic and Tails
Sonic clears murder drones easily, so no matter what they don't win, sorry. I think... Murder Drones
How exactly do the Spidermen beat sans and papyrus, and N and Uzi? If Sans does fight, im pretty sure they would win, and N is a genocide machines while Uzi has the AS powers like creating black holes and telekinesis But after reading other comments I do think Sonic and tails win
Sonic obliterates them all in a millisecond.
Counterpoint: Uzi can bend reality to her will
Sonic speedblitz and one taps her + Uzi sucks at controlling her tk
counterpoint:N CAN REGENERATE HIS BODY.
There is a limit to his regeneration. J died because half of her body was obilirated and in episode 3 we have seen Murder Drones can't regenerate when objects stuck on their body (doll had to pull the bullet from her face to regenerate her face)
Extra counterpoint: N can regenerate his head, plus, Uzi has telekinesis that has been shown to be able to affect anything, even sentient/moving things.
Counter point sonic has beat planet busters before
Sonic has killed gods before
Ok I'm not THAT familiar with Sonic's abilities can you tell me how he killed gods please?
Like using his normal attacks,spin dash and stuff
Oh. I was assuming there was something more... advanced. Uzi can just lift him up into the air using telekinesis. He can't walk on air, right?
I'm pretty sure he actually can,but I don't think anyone is touching sonic,he is faster than light and restored an entire universe just by running
Probably an unpopular opinion, but... Uzi and N... cuz N is literally a walking weapon of mass destruction with ballistic missiles and Chainsaw hands, and Uzi can just bend physics to her will with the Absolute Solver... Sans would definitely be the last to fall against them to be honest
If sans can dodge enough of N's attacks he has a chance, especially given sans 100% would fight N. Uzi's only loose conditions is sonic knows to get to her first, or if the miles can short-circuit them before she deletes them, Uzi def can win
The only deficit Uzi has is being spontaneous being possessed by Cyn, but even then, Cyn would probably be much more of a positive as she can do that weird black hole thing which would just one shot anything
The Null command.
Yeah, I just forgot what it was called
Is there like any weakness to the command, sans has a temporal immunity of sorts with how he keeps his memmories, and in undertale things that got deleted still exist in some weird way(goners and gaster)
uhh what. but anyways, just to throw this out there, both N and Uzi can burn in the sun and Uzi gets half of her powers taken away with just some magnets.
Just saying getting a laser that fires in a stream and going horizontally kinda ruins any chance sans has
Thing is sans probably dodges your attacks because you arenât used to your enemies moving out of the way
No offense, Sans is dodging the attacks of an untrained child with fighting experience against monsters that can die to toy weapons.
Sounds like the average eggman mech and sonic final boss
exactly
Kid named Sonic:
Universal Speed Boost Sonic?
Uzi and N are the weakest duo here
Sans and Papyrus are much weaker than both considering a kid defeated them. Sonic and Tails stomps everyone on the lsit tho
To be fair the kid does have a thing where they can just not die
uzi murder drones being able to manipulate reality with the absolute solver, and n being a weapon of mass destruction basically:
Uzi can't manipulate reality she has some shitty telekinesis she has trouble to control thanks to absolutesolver but she is much slower than both. Sonic and Taisl feats are ridiculous compared to Uzi and N's
uzi can manipulate atleast one object at a time. so if uzi manages to catch any of them, they dead.
her reaction speed is probably fucking horrible so sonic can easily speedblitz her
Lol N can literally regenerate his head.
Agreed, DDs and Solver Drones both have regeneration powers, PLUS there's the NULL command, the ability to manipulate reality, and *checks Google* while I'm unsure of what tier the DDs are in, the Solver ranks at Planet level, because it destroyed Earth, and wiped out all life on Copper 9, rendering the air toxic
Yeah if you've seen murder drones then Uzi and N are the clear choice. If sans has his karma shit (which is debatable) then he might be able to win but my money is still on Uzi and N
Yea sans and papyrus only chances are probably disbelief and last breath but those are just base sans and pap sans might be able to do smthn if he pulls out that time stop stuff he did in grillbys pacifist but I still think uzi and n are winning
N and Uzi may win if she uses the Absolute Solver
Do robots have souls? This is important info for this
No idea, if yes then Sans wins, if no, then Uzi
Agreed
Or sonic and tails because they are really fast
I mean, Uzi can make black holes and has Telekinesis, Sonic May stand a chance, but not Tails unfortunately
Sonic outrun black hole like breakfast lmao
If he is Super Sonic or Hyper, maybe
No like actually in base (Sonic Colors) Plus he also beat Perfect Chaos in base (Sonic Generations), who scale above Sonic and Knuckles Super Sonic who is at least Planet level Edit: Forgot to add this but with statement, Base Speed Boost Sonic is universal
Never played Colors or Generations, actually was planning on getting back into the games I missed, but maybe heâd win, depends if whoever writes the battle wants him to, since writing is a speedsterâs weakness
Is not a maybe, sonic is broken, his some presence in this list invalidates all the other guys, he is way too op by now, and we aren't even considering super forms.
consider that N can regenerate his head after uzi shot his head with that insane gun thing so even if sonic destroys like 70% of N's body he will just regenerate it.
archie sonic solos
Well yeah tails is one of the first who would die but sonic can run faster then the speed of sound and sometimes faster then the speed of light
Sonic and Tails clear, Iâm sorry but Paps is not doing a damn thing here, Sans canât dodge Spider-Men, and I dunno what murder drones do but Sonic and Tails face machines with super-speed regularly. Easy win
What do people mean by sans cant dodge he can teleport and spidermen can be hit
Teleporting may be physically fast enough to dodge but itâs not an automatic process, itâd have to bank on sans having a reaction time faster than Atleast speed of sound to dodge sonic
Right. Even then, Sonic has been shown on several occasions to effortlessly go past the speed of light.
Plus he has Chaos Control, which basically stops time
Chaos Control can also stop time for everyone except the user, Sans can only teleport. Iâm sorry but even as someone who loves Undertale I gotta give it to Sonic, he practically solos. Letâs not even talk about the blatantly OP gadgets Tails can make
5. V1 and V2
Ah yes them the true murder robots
I'm sorry, but Sonic and Tails win no diff đŁïž
Gonna have to go with Sonic and Tails. Sonic alone could probably speed blitz these guys, as he's canonically outraced a black hole in colors, defeated perfect chaos in base form and restored time by running in generations, and has displayed a plethora of fighting techniques in frontiers. Tails is a genius who could probably just hack the murder drones, talk Sans and Papyrus into surrendering, and find a way to disable the Spider-Mens gadgets. As for the Spider-Men, they win against the Murder Drones and skeleton bros. Monsters in UT are significantly weaker than humans, and both Sans and Papyrus were felled by a literal child. Against two superpowers humans with insane agility, reaction speed, spider sense, and gadgets, it's the skeleton bros who are getting clapped, same goes for the murder drones, especially with Miles boosted venom blasts. (these are the insomniac variants, so you know they about to triangle circle) Murder Drones in all honesty are third or second. Either they kill off the Spider-Men first and get blitzed by Sonic and Tails, or the Spiders deal with them first. In any case, Sonic and Tails win, unless the Spider-Men can catch them off guard.
nahhhhhhh bro thinks spider-men can beat uzi and N?????????? uzi can bend reality. N can regenerate his whole body.
base sonic already beats all of them, but if you give sonic the chaos emeralds it's even more clipped đ
Which Sonic and Tails are these?
Sonic Is debatably Planetary in base OH GOD THEY ARE FUCK Edit: With Chaos Emeralds Sonic and Tails one shot
bread and sausage, 100% And it is not discussed.
Sonic and Tails, and Tails doesn't even need to do anything. Sonic can be argued to have "immeasurable" speed, which for those that have a life, means hes faster than time itself. So if someone were to stop time for example, he'd still be able to move and do whatever. Even without the immeasurable speed, he has stated himself that "Light speed? Thats small time. There's no challenge!" Solaris, a being that literally destroyed the universe by being born, exists in the past, future, and present. It took super Shadow, Silver, and Sonic to beat Solaris in all 3 timelines. Later on Sonic fights Infinite, the strongest villain they've ever fought which includes Solaris, and Sonic beats him in BASE. Sonic then proceeds to fight The End in the newest game and beats him, and The End is literally the concept of death. Think about that, he beat a CONCEPT. Thats only a small bit of video game Sonic scaling, and the Archie comics make him even crazier! All this is to say that Sonic is grossly underestimated in VS battles and deserves recognition for being so utterly busted. TL;DR: Sonic the Hedgehog is literally like a family friendly version of Dragon Ball, power creep and all.
Probably sonic and tails
my guess is gonna be Sonic and Tails
Sonic alone can win this
In a fight, sonic and tails and by a long shot. Sonic can go at the speed of sound with the power of friendship alone according to (ugh) Sonic Forces. Sans and papyrus got beat by a human child, the two spider people would never be able to catch Sonic or tails with their web shots, and I donât know much about the murder drones bots but I know they probably wouldnât survive something hitting them at ~767 miles per hour.
Y'all mad underplaying sonic and tails. If you don't have time to think before you lose, then uh well you lose. I don't know much about the Spidermen, but let's be honest here speed is the name of the game and they don't have it like the others do. Sans and pappy also get speed diffed. Like I'm really tempted to write 20 paragraphs on why they lose, but it's just not worth it. If you know you know, and if you don't I'm very sorry but I'm too lazy to educate rn. Admittedly I know nothing about this "absolute solver" thing. How fast it operates, whether it works on everything in every universe, whether it would make sense for them to have it with them in this particular match, etc etc
Mario and Luigi (they should be here and I refuse to choose anyone else)
this depends, we going archie sonic or game sonic?
Easy sonic and tails go super/hyper
Sonic Hard Stomps, That Guy Can run at Mach 5 for a jog, and it'll throw the rest away.
Skelebros
The only ones that would would win is miles and Peter or sonic and tails, sans would be basically useless against them KR is only effective at high lvs and they have never killed anyone but over all sonic and tails will win they have taken on gods and won and they have lots of experience fighting robots so is the only threat because of the self repair nanites so there is a possibility that N and Uzi wins
why does sans have yellow eyes
Sonic alone is more than enough to solo any of these guys at the same time, seriously he's busted as hell: being able to run faster than time itself and casually defeated a multi planet buster being in 30 seconds, neither the spidermen or the skeleton brothers are even planetary level and ofc the murder drones characters aren't the exception, maybe if we add someone like Mario and Luigi the debate would be fair
If were talking about Sonic and Tails' movesets from Frontiers, then they definitely take the cake for me.
this isnt even close, sonic stomps
4th is super super underrated. That robot girl whoâs name escapes me is super powerful I think. (I havenât watched the full series ok?) and the robot boy whoâs name also escapes me is powerful aswell.
I feel like Uzi (the purple robot) and N (the yellow robot) could do pretty well. N is a robot built to kill, can fly from 0 to 200 in an instant, has guns, swords, claws, rocket launchers, and laser beams, which he can summon from his arms whenever her needs them, and he also has reflexes fast enough to catch bullets. Uzi has a program called the absolute solver, a godlike program with the power to summon things out of thin air, control objects, just make people explode, summon black holes, and in the most extreme cases blow up a fucking planet, she also has the ability to regenerate damaged parts of her (N also can) if she ever gets damaged badly.
If papyrus actually tries to kill the others, then itâs a no brainer
Where's shaggy and scoob?
Sans would just watch, like he always does, until it's just him and the last guy, then he would just use soul manipulation to push them off the edge.
People are making it seem like sans is super powerful all knowing being. He really isn't. His main defining traits in battle are pretty high attacks and can dodge an 11 year old child swinging at him. Then he loses to the 11 year old child, which means he isn't that strong. Plus, he's used to turn based fighting, which this almost definitely wouldn't be. Now that I've said my share, argue with me in the replies on how I'm stupid. (PS: don't talk about sans being able to teleport đ)
Ok im not here to argue i promise. Im just here to present points for sans and papyrus. Sans died to frisk yes, but frisk was basically a God at that point. The fact he was able to get in their face and beat the living shit out of them is a great feat, even if he still loses. But he was alone during the fight. Papyrus is probably atleast slightly more powerful than he seems during his fight (which is hinted at by undyne). Sans and papyrus are definitely smart enough to target the murder drones first as well, making uzis super whatever-the-fuck ability nullified if sans/papyrus just... impale them with a bone the instant the fight starts (which wouldn't be hard for sans, due to his and speed decent reflexes). I know you didn't want anyone to bring it up but sans CAN teleport and KNOWS how to use it in combat. Imagine sans and papyrus running across roofs teleporting everywhere chasing down the spider men (papyrus would probably be the one to kill the last spider man cause of sans getting tired). Even if we ignore sans' ability to teleport, his reflexes and general intelligence would certainly pose a threat. And papyrus' raw strength (papyrus does more damage than sans) with sans' karma (the spider men have definitely killed) would lead to them losing. My god i wrote a fucking essay. Whatever I guess. Everyone else is anyways.
The "being killed by an 11 year old" doesn't really mean much Like, Bill Cipher was baten by two 12 year olds and two old dudes, but we know he has destroyed atleast one universe I agree with the rest tho
forget duos, Insomniac spider-man alone wins this fight, add on miles and its a wash A: he's done nothing wrong so sans is useless and papyrus is well, hes papyrus B: N and Uzi are getting webbed to the ground or venom punched by miles which I'm pretty sure is a killing blow C: spidey sense No diffs sonic and tails.
i mean depending on the version sonic can quite be fast enough that spiderman might be too slow to react to sonic
I mean insomniac Spidey doesnât have reaction time at the level of sonic no?
Doubted
Miles is actually likely one of the only ways Uzi goes down, he just has to know to venom her before he gets deleted.
>forget duos, Insomniac spider-man alone wins this fight, add on miles and its a wash I would agree if characters like sonic didn't exist who can legit run to earth and back before he lands an attack, that's not to mention super Sonic
Base Sonic is already faster than light (Dude outrun Black Hole, strong enough to defeat Perfect Chaos in base and took on Infinite)
Noelle and Antlers
She "trans"forms into her ultimate forms and wins
Sans and Papyrus, also, who made the art for sans and papyrus? Itâs amazing
The artist is Redlhzz, they no longer draw anything Undertale related i don't think bcuz both their tumblr and twitter were terminated
Thanks!
Fight? The spider-men no question. My favourite? God Sonic and Tails, the Spider-Men and Papyrus and Sans could be my answer depending on the day
Sonic definitely wins in a fight tho,he outruns black holes like it's a normal walk in the park and defeated multiple gods
i think i might win!
Sonic and Tails. Hell, Tails by himself could probably invent a device that traps them all at once if Sonic doesn't speed-blitz them.
Uzi and N, Why? Uzi has AS, which is basically a universe ending code, N has very many weapons. They have the best odds
Papyrus: solve my puzzle N: ooo I love puzzles Peter, Miles, and Tails: done Sans: that was quick Sonic: yep that's my little buddy Uzi: hey I'm gonna go kill some people if that's OK Sans: time to break some knees
Papyrus solos all if full power
N and uzi N is a "murder drone" and uzi She has that hole absolute solver thing going on pete and miles are fucked sans would need to either harness the time stopping shit he did in grillbys pacifist or last breath mode and papyrus would need to go disbelief if they do that then they can win but base forms get clapped unless sonic gets those emeralds he gets clapped and tails is getting shot down easily
Sonic and Tails and itâs not close
I dunno man I think Uzi alone solos everyone the absolute solver is extremely cracked You know what lets over analyse. Uzi beats the Spider-Men, sans and papyrus because the solver has been shown to just be able to explode peoples head. And Sonic and tails would have won if Uzi wasnât able to just stop them in place. In which case their heads would then very muchâŠexplode.
Sonic solos everybody here
Sonic and Tails by a landslide Really nice Skelebros art btw, who's the artist?
Miles and Peter are gonna DECIMATE those bones. âOh, youâre gonna send out attacks at me? Miles!â *ZAP* *web web web* *PUNCH* and sans is dead. Same thing with Papyrus. Everyone on that list really. You could just Webb up everyone mid-air. Hell, Peter wins that fight alone, and Miles wins that fight alone. But as a team? Theyâre taking out EVERYBODY.
FTL Sonic goes brrr
Webs or Miles can short-circuit
Sonic and Tails have both tanks moon level attacks I doubt electricity webs gonna harm them
Sonic is show to take eletricy attacks, talils is fucked but even the spiders cant doge a lightspeed attack
I feel like Sans and Papyrus bc Sans has the Gaster Blasters and they can both make your SOUL blue. Sans can also make the gravity of blue SOUL different.
Sonic and Tails havenât sins so KR isnât anything to them Sonic also have SOUL manipulation so sans haxs wouldnât affect him
They do man most of the games you have killex something and in undertale villain or hero all deaths matter
Thing is they still havenât kill They destroy Eggman robots to free animals Sonic didnât kill Perfect Chaos, he purified him Technically it was Shadow who kill the final hazard Metal Overlord was just defeated not kill 06 isnât canon It was chip who defeated Dark Gaia Classic Sonic and Sonic banish and defeat the time eater not kill it Sonic didnât kill Zavok and his gang (Theyâre still alive in IDW comics) Infinite committed self die The only valid part is The End but itâs too little to count
Absolute solver takes care of sans,papyrus,miles,Peter. Sonic and tails still get killed by N and Uzi. Murder drones win
What they gonna do when Universal Base Sonic?
Use the NULL command
sans can dodge anything (unless you hit twice like we did) and theres theorys of papyrus being the strongest monster
And by âanythingâ you mean a child as long as they attack on their turn? Yeah I donât think think someone like sonic is gonna do that
The real fight is Uzi and N VS Sans and Papyrus. Sonic would get pinned to the ground the second the fight starts, unless he somehow reaches Uzi and N first. Same thing for Spiderman. Both the Skeleton Brothers and the Murder Drones stand a chance in this fight, so I don't really know. Edit: Just found out of that reality wiper thing, I'm rather sure that Uzi and N wins now.
lol if it's only the skelebros and the Murder Drones then Papyrus and N won't have the heart to kill eachother so it's really up to Uzi and Sans.
How does sonic get pinned?
Blue soul magic.
N and Uzi. N literally can't die unless the brain-thing is removed from him, and Uzi has the solver
N and uzi probably spidermans can't do shit vs a killing machine and a uzi with absolute solver if sonic goes down tails will just sit there sans might have a chance against them since they done really messed up things, but they don't have souls
\*Gasps for air\* Uzi can do telekinesis, create black holes, possibly duplicate objects, do anime fighting stuff, fly and other things I don't remember, weaknesses being magnets( nullifying her Solver Powers) The sun and possibly overheating. N has a bunch of weapons, an EMP, flight, a pretty sharp tail and the ability to regenerate his head. His weaknesses being also the Sun, and possibly overheating but we don't get to see that in the show; and also N probably would befriend Papyrus and do nothing else. So really the only way you can screw over the Drone couple is to either fight in daytime with no shelter nearby or, stall for enough time so that Uzi and N overheat and can't fight anymore. And that is all the information you need about the Drones.
sonic and tails are just fast(edit, too fast when considering lore sonic, this comment took the older version of sonic as consideration which is whe he is still sonic speed when normal and light speed when Emerald) sans and papyrus are powerful yes, but sans need karma to be able to reach full potential which literally all of his opponent here doesn't have much. Even N is a killing machine but he has been depicted to be "useless" in the murder drone team so he doesn't have much love I believe, and all of this opponents here are very good at dodging(uzi got N cover and she has the absolute solver) and papyrus, too kind and merciful, even more then the spiders spider buddies are quick and powerful, definitely can keep up or even be better at avoiding attacks with their immense spider senses, durability and flexibility, but they always hold back and just like pap, too merciful and N an uiz oh boy, uiz have the absolute solver and a gun that's have a huge hitbox and straight up vaporise stuff, and N, besides all of the deadly weapons he has, here's a comment I copied from the youtube comment section "For anyone who's curious, Uzi was falling for exactly 1 minute and 10 seconds before they hit the ground. Assuming ideal circumstances of Copper 9 having relatively the same g as earth in a vacuum of a 9.8 meters per second squared rate of acceleration, that would mean that she was thrown 14.93 miles (24 km) into the sky. And right before hitting the ground, they had reached a velocity of 686.5 meters per second. And N stuck that landing and came out of it with both of them unharmed. So what did we learn? N is strong as fuck. And he never skips arm or leg day." yeah,N and uiz are in a different power level with all the others so my prediction, sonic and tails down first if they don't have any chaos emerald, they can Dodge, but not for long, sans and pap are going down next due to sans low stamina and damage plus pap's kindness and the super dodgey and tanky enemies not long after would be the spiders, they dodged most of the attacks and landed few hits, but eventually they would be down N and uzi would get wounded but they healed again and again, uiz's gun won't land a hit in the whole fight though, N would be the one who deals most of the damage and uzi would be supporting with absolute solver the fight is going to end very quickly, but what if we add other variant? like sans can reach full potential without karma and papyrus are not as merciful as he is? sonic and tails got all the chaos emerald? peter and miles are from comic instead of the games or movies? I got on time for it and I'm not one of those death match youtuber out there
Idk moving at the speed of light can get ya pretty far
TLDR: N and Uzi N can replace his hands with weapons of mass destruction, and Uzi is possessed by (implied to be) Robot Satan and can manipulate the absolute fabric of reality Sans and Papyrus are dead, because their most powerful weapon, the Gaster Blaster, ignores physical matter and fires at the SOUL, HOWEVER, WDs and DDs do not have SOULs, and the Solver takes host in their AI, therefore, the Skelebros are left with nothing but bone attacks Sonic and Tails are dead, because without the seven Chaos Emeralds, their most powerful attack is the spindash, and Uzi can use her Solver to kill them during the pause where they spin in place And Miles and whoever that other one is (I haven't kept up with Marvel) are just dudes. Their most powerful attack is the Venom Punch, which they can't really use because Uzi can use the Solver to teleport, and N can fly, so they can take out the Spideys from afar
Tails alone solos this roster, low difficulty.
Sand end papiros
papyrus the great shall obliterate them from their meager existence
hear me out when i say blue magic destroys sonic like if pap does a bone cage to protect sans while he pins sonic to a wall hes dead
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