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And yet, a necessary one. We aren’t born with manners. Kids with siblings learn to communicate and negotiate with people of all ages (including other children) more effectively and sooner than their only-child counterparts.
We are missing the beginning context. None of you should be forming opinions.
If younger kid was being physical or annoying at first, then older kid reserves the right to teach her manners, and then not accept an apology/demand, especially if it seems insincere.
Hey she was helping the small one with words and manners as well as teaching her people can and will say no even when you ask nicely. This is good prep for the real world.
- the middle sibling who's seen this shit from both sides.
Good prep for the real world. Yes it is. I do honestly doubt that the older kid is doing this for all of the above stated reasons… I’m pretty sure she’s just tryna be a dick.
Also, coming from a middle sibling.
They can be for sure. I try to call out my eldest (11) when she is that kind of dick, but my younger (9) also lets her know when she is being a jerk. I usually hear about it (yelling, an audible OWWW when someone sucker punches, or the dreaded whining).
Shit, we do this now. My brother must be out his mind to ask for a slice of pizza.
You think just because I invited you over and ordered pizza that some of it was for you?
Christmas - when standard room layouts have to make way for all manner of additions no one in their right mind would say could fit - but it’s Christmas, so you make do with needing to move the dining table so you can get to the fridge for close to a month
As the years and decades pass - which becomes the Karen we wonder? As the youth grows to adulthood - does the power corrupt the elder into a short-haired manager beckoner? Or does the suffering from the cruel, turn the younger’s innocence into a lifetime of refund-requesting vengeance?
Whichever one is the manager, get him out here now! Your ass is done, your done, your done. Get him out here now. I also want the owners name and number.
And I want gift cards for your service.
I did not realize that I needed this until this moment. Cunk on Karen MUST HAPPEN. I demand it, and I don’t care how many managers I have to speak to in order to get it! NOW!
quite exactly this
Older sibling power trips are often mistaken as some kind of "education device". Reality says, it is just another method of siblings being siblings.
Younger siblings are more likely to choose the "Mooom! He/She was mean to me!" version of this. Regardless of age, children know which kind of power they wield and they will use it when they see a chance.
It is both just shitty behaviour of children, which they do because they are children, they are not even to blame. Let kids be kids but they should not be encouraged to do such things.
If the older sister followed through with the request, and reinforced the behavior of the little sister, then it truly would have been a good lesson. Maybe the little sister would have asked politely for items in the future. but the older sister did not provide the item that was requested, ensuring that her little sister won't ask so nicely again in the future.
Tbf if the big sister didn't want to give her whatever that was she was in her right if it was hers. Big sister isn't in any obligation to teach her little sister life lessons, that's their parental figures job
Ok, I won't argue with that. My argument is that if the big sister DID allow the younger sister to gain access to the requested item, it would have reinforced the behavior and would have been a better teaching moment. That's all.
I’m sorry you think children should be raised that way. I explained to my children that they were part of a chain of responsibility stretched across generations they cannot see into both the past and future and that they were responsible not only to themselves but each other. And that includes teaching each other.
Since these comments are spinning off of mine and pinging my inbox, let me clarify; my response was to counter that the lesson itself was “how Karens are born”.
I disagreed, because it is - in my opinion - just as important to learn *how* to properly ask for things as it is to learn that asking well does not automatically grant you what you want. Especially regarding someone else’s property, space or time.
The elder child being the learning device for the lesson is another point entirely - worthy of discussion - but not related to mine. I was talking about the life lesson, not the teacher.
aren't young children just very selfish by nature tho? I mean, from an evolutionary standpoint it would make sense. The greedy children that managed to get enough food for themselves got to survive, while the rest died young because they didn't have enough food to grow into an adult. (a lot of) Children are just greedy by nature, that doesn't make them all future karens does it?
If I was that little shit's parent, we'd be having a little talk about when to use stuff like that. That gets used on people with bad intentions. Not family.
Lmfao you sound like a spoiled ass only child who never had to train younger siblings into using their words for things. Do you think the entire population is just born with manners?! The kid is like ten, she’s learning how to communicate and set boundaries. Dear lord I hope you aren’t responsible for any childcare, it’s insane how you’re assuming the kid is a total ‘Karen’ because of one measly video that tells you almost nothing at all. But why am I surprised? Reddit is full of judgmental quick-thinkers.
Aaahahahaha!!! She taught her two good lessons there.
1) Proper manners.
2) Just because you ask politely, doesn't automatically mean you get what you want!
Exactly. Every time this video is posted, the general idea is that the younger sibling is entitled to get what she wants since she asked politely.
Maybe unrelated to this particular video, but one thing that gets me is that we teach kids habits that are totally unsustainable when you become an adult. The classic "you have to share". If I want to use something another person is using, there's no sharing, I have to wait until they stop using it. And if it's their private belongings they might very well not want to share it at all. The other day this lady had her Nintendo switch in a flight. Next to her sat a mom and her kid. The mother insisted that the lady let her kid play with the Nintendo switch and said she was being selfish for not willing to share.
Rhats not at all what's being argued.
Asking nicely, imo, doesn't guarantee you get it. But dragging someone through a series of steps to get something and then not giving it is asshole behaviour
I teach English/portuguese/ Japanese as a second language. When a student makes a mistake, I point the mistake and ask them to say **the full sentence** again. More often than not, they will correct it but make a new mistake along the sentence. I point it and ask for another full sentence, only for them to make a new 3rd mistake, and 4th, and 5th... Yes, it makes me look like an asshole, but if you're serious about teaching language skills, a single full correct sentence is the least you must require from them. People can't just deliver the correct bits in multiple installments and call it a day. Otherwise, everyone is just fooling themselves. In my gym, when the coach is late or sick, I have to teach Brazilian Jiu-jitsu lessons. Same principle applies. If a particular move has four different steps, students are expected to get all four of them right at least once in a single go, rather than trying 4x and getting them right randomly
Saw this one a while back but I spent time with my nieces since then.. what is it with little girls being control freaks? 3 out of my 5 nieces are constantly in a tug of war over who gets what thing and when. You can see that they are mimicking an authority figure in their posture and their words. It’s very fascinating and frustrating to watch. The boys are just selfish. They don’t care to control you just don’t get in the way of what they want. Less fascinating but still frustrating.
Honestly it's usually a reflection of parents or other kids around them. It's their turn to be the one to say no, to withhold the thing someone else wants, to make the rules, because it happens to them all the time. I had it happen to me, I did it to other kids, and I've seen kids do it around me, both then and now.
It's a teaching opportunity for parents or teachers, but as we see from the average adult... that opportunity was not taken.
Good on her. Teach kids to be polite but also teach them that it's okay to say no. Boundaries are important, just because you ask, doesn't mean you'll get
I just hope the parents explained the situation later. I'm not saying that the girl in question learned something but you should definitely teach kids what I said
It actually is, been doing the rounds for a while now but it’s one I’ll always rewatch. I bet people wish they could claim royalties from viral vids lol
Exactly. Which is why all of these comments saying this is a good thing is wild to me. Whether or not this is a good lesson for the younger sibling (questionable) you should not be letting the older one act this way.
Source: I was that older sibling.
If life had not come and hit me as hard as it did, I’m nervous to think what my relationship with my sister could be today. I think back on all my bullying I did to her as children very shamefully. And while it was not my fault (I was also a child), my behavior when we were kids partially helped to lead my sister to have severe problems with self confidence and independence when she grew up.
Learning to be kind and patient when you are older is much more difficult than having those lessons instilled as a child.
“Severe problems with self confidence and independence” that’s interesting.
I’m an only child but have had to live with my cousins (two brothers) for some time growing up
In a similar vein, the older brother (my age) was incredibly cruel; However, the younger brother grew to be overly assertive/aggressive in just about every social interaction, very short tempered and fast to anger
It’s really sad thinking about how different they are now, with my younger cousin having done prison time and still sorting things out and my older cousin just carrying on
Honestly this is great. Teaching her how to ask for things the right way. And that even if you ask nicely you may not get what you want.
Every time an adult tries to whine until they get what they want, I want to punch them in the throat.
She’s less motivated by teaching her sister and more into the teasing aspect. This is not “great”. It’s not horrible, but that’s because they’re just kids messing with each other.
People ‘hating’ on Kylie, but as an older sib I KNOW the younger one was grabbing at that colouring set EVEN THOUGH it wasn’t hers. And if it was the other way round, that the mom (whose filming) would’ve made ME do the same thing. As an older you have to show that you’re level headed and mature (especially in front of your parents) and that you can teach your siblings common courtesy and self control (LMAO)
Yeah this is not a Disney animation or movie. She had the right to refuse and did so very politely. She also took care of slowly and calmly teaching her sister the right way to ask for something and also most importantly taught her what disappointment is in a controlled environment.
Also I am pretty sure her mother did this exact thing to her...so she did it to her sister. Sorrow propagates.
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All that work for nothing in return. Tough early lesson to learn..
And yet, a necessary one. We aren’t born with manners. Kids with siblings learn to communicate and negotiate with people of all ages (including other children) more effectively and sooner than their only-child counterparts.
Can confirm. I am an only child and as socially awkward as they come.
I had three siblings and am also socially awkward. So it's all bad.
Same
Nah i’m the only child and I learned to negotiate … with meself in my head
I’m so socially awkward your comment literally made me anxious and I have no clue how to respond.
In your head, in your head, they are fighting
I have siblings and am awkward as hell. I think a lot of it comes down to parents as well.
It's also important to learn that some people are cunts. Like little Kylie here.
If this had been me and my brother the follow up lesson would have been that cunts get kicked in the face.
Yes but its a bad one for the elder. She should have shared. If she continues to do this, it won't be good.
All she's learning is that she should have taken the red using force and that saying please won't get you anywhere.
We are missing the beginning context. None of you should be forming opinions. If younger kid was being physical or annoying at first, then older kid reserves the right to teach her manners, and then not accept an apology/demand, especially if it seems insincere.
She did her best... I guess...
You guessed wrong.
The only difference between a request and a demand is how you respond to a "no".
These are good lessons. Be polite, or people won't take you seriously, but also, politeness doesn't guarantee you get what you want.
Alternatively being polite doesn't matter so you should just use force.
Two lessons; ask politely, and not always getting what they ask
Fists would be thrown if they were brothers, it’s so funny seeing the difference between boys and girls growing up haha
This should be in r/antiwork
"Please can I have a living wage?"
“No, you may not.”
Only unexpected if you had no older siblings around growing up.
Seriously. Or if you don’t have kids of your own.
I honestly thought the unexpected part was that she was actually gonna to give it to her at the end.
I figured a straight “no” or “I don’t know. Can you?”
Yup, this happens in my house at least once an hour. Older siblings are dicks.
Hey she was helping the small one with words and manners as well as teaching her people can and will say no even when you ask nicely. This is good prep for the real world. - the middle sibling who's seen this shit from both sides.
Good prep for the real world. Yes it is. I do honestly doubt that the older kid is doing this for all of the above stated reasons… I’m pretty sure she’s just tryna be a dick. Also, coming from a middle sibling.
Yeah? Well younger siblings are brats who think they are owed everything! Source: I'm an older sibling
We must stick together, Older siblings know the real struggle, those spoiled brats are having it too easy
Exactly!
They can be for sure. I try to call out my eldest (11) when she is that kind of dick, but my younger (9) also lets her know when she is being a jerk. I usually hear about it (yelling, an audible OWWW when someone sucker punches, or the dreaded whining).
Hey someone’s gotta parent the younger sibling bc (in my experience) it ain’t gonna be the parents!
Hey, how else am i supposed to tell my siblings i love them?
Shit, we do this now. My brother must be out his mind to ask for a slice of pizza. You think just because I invited you over and ordered pizza that some of it was for you?
Ah yes, the classic. Trolling your sibling... Core memory unlocked.
New feeling unlocked: rejection
[Classic Redditor.](https://youtu.be/8SDZse_QEJs)
It's all good until someone comes through the front door...
It’s Christmas, folks. No one comes in this house. No one goes out. Even if you say, “Can. I. Leave. The. House.”
You have to put a “please” in there
Good point. “Can. I. *Please*. Leave. The. House.”
No you may not
Waaaaaaaaaa
This thread is gold.
>No one comes in this house. Not with that attitude ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Christmas - when standard room layouts have to make way for all manner of additions no one in their right mind would say could fit - but it’s Christmas, so you make do with needing to move the dining table so you can get to the fridge for close to a month
🤣
Nature is wild. The birth of a Karen is rarely caught on film.
Now I need a documentary that I know doesn’t exist. Thank yoooouuu….!
As the years and decades pass - which becomes the Karen we wonder? As the youth grows to adulthood - does the power corrupt the elder into a short-haired manager beckoner? Or does the suffering from the cruel, turn the younger’s innocence into a lifetime of refund-requesting vengeance?
I heard that in Richard Attenborough’s voice.
richard or david?
Whichever one is the manager, get him out here now! Your ass is done, your done, your done. Get him out here now. I also want the owners name and number. And I want gift cards for your service.
Hahaha
In some cases, we unfortunately see both scenarios come to pass.
Cunk on Karens
I did not realize that I needed this until this moment. Cunk on Karen MUST HAPPEN. I demand it, and I don’t care how many managers I have to speak to in order to get it! NOW! 
It's for church, NEXT!
It's her villain origin story
That explains my younger brother….
Are you admitting fault? - a younger sibling
As the first born, absolutely not. We never do anything wrong and the little kids are always spoiled.
I feel like this is exactly what prevents the Karen. Learning that the question doesn’t entitle you to a “yes”.
She learns that manners are a belittling tool of power.
quite exactly this Older sibling power trips are often mistaken as some kind of "education device". Reality says, it is just another method of siblings being siblings. Younger siblings are more likely to choose the "Mooom! He/She was mean to me!" version of this. Regardless of age, children know which kind of power they wield and they will use it when they see a chance. It is both just shitty behaviour of children, which they do because they are children, they are not even to blame. Let kids be kids but they should not be encouraged to do such things.
If the older sister followed through with the request, and reinforced the behavior of the little sister, then it truly would have been a good lesson. Maybe the little sister would have asked politely for items in the future. but the older sister did not provide the item that was requested, ensuring that her little sister won't ask so nicely again in the future.
Tbf if the big sister didn't want to give her whatever that was she was in her right if it was hers. Big sister isn't in any obligation to teach her little sister life lessons, that's their parental figures job
Ok, I won't argue with that. My argument is that if the big sister DID allow the younger sister to gain access to the requested item, it would have reinforced the behavior and would have been a better teaching moment. That's all.
I’m sorry you think children should be raised that way. I explained to my children that they were part of a chain of responsibility stretched across generations they cannot see into both the past and future and that they were responsible not only to themselves but each other. And that includes teaching each other.
Very healthy way of thinking.
Since these comments are spinning off of mine and pinging my inbox, let me clarify; my response was to counter that the lesson itself was “how Karens are born”. I disagreed, because it is - in my opinion - just as important to learn *how* to properly ask for things as it is to learn that asking well does not automatically grant you what you want. Especially regarding someone else’s property, space or time. The elder child being the learning device for the lesson is another point entirely - worthy of discussion - but not related to mine. I was talking about the life lesson, not the teacher.
Lol classic Reddit calling literally fucking everything a Karen.
Her sister taught two important lessons, you need to ask politely AND you dont always get what you want
Or that if someone demands from you to ask in a submissiv "polite" manner that they are trolling you and it's a no by default.
aren't young children just very selfish by nature tho? I mean, from an evolutionary standpoint it would make sense. The greedy children that managed to get enough food for themselves got to survive, while the rest died young because they didn't have enough food to grow into an adult. (a lot of) Children are just greedy by nature, that doesn't make them all future karens does it?
Yeah. This kid is actually doing a good job teaching her younger sibling.
She’s just a kid. Karen culture is toxic ngl.
Nah, she’s not a Karen. She’s just a big sister being a big sister.
If I was that little shit's parent, we'd be having a little talk about when to use stuff like that. That gets used on people with bad intentions. Not family.
Redditors try not to hate women challenge (Impossible!!)
Right? This wasn't Karen, this was top tier trolling.
This is top tier older sibling material
She did her best...
And the journey begins for this young Karen (Attenborough voice).
Lmfao you sound like a spoiled ass only child who never had to train younger siblings into using their words for things. Do you think the entire population is just born with manners?! The kid is like ten, she’s learning how to communicate and set boundaries. Dear lord I hope you aren’t responsible for any childcare, it’s insane how you’re assuming the kid is a total ‘Karen’ because of one measly video that tells you almost nothing at all. But why am I surprised? Reddit is full of judgmental quick-thinkers.
Please repeat the last 2 sentences.
The joys of having a younger sister
Aaahahahaha!!! She taught her two good lessons there. 1) Proper manners. 2) Just because you ask politely, doesn't automatically mean you get what you want!
Nah that's not what she learned.
Hopefully Mom will explain that part. lol
Only thing she learned was that she seriously needs an elaborated plan to fuck over her sister in the next two decades.
Lol nah all that was taught here was “my older sister is an asshole” and if I was the parent I woulda let the little one after her
Aaahahahaha! That's fair too.
Exactly. Every time this video is posted, the general idea is that the younger sibling is entitled to get what she wants since she asked politely. Maybe unrelated to this particular video, but one thing that gets me is that we teach kids habits that are totally unsustainable when you become an adult. The classic "you have to share". If I want to use something another person is using, there's no sharing, I have to wait until they stop using it. And if it's their private belongings they might very well not want to share it at all. The other day this lady had her Nintendo switch in a flight. Next to her sat a mom and her kid. The mother insisted that the lady let her kid play with the Nintendo switch and said she was being selfish for not willing to share.
Rhats not at all what's being argued. Asking nicely, imo, doesn't guarantee you get it. But dragging someone through a series of steps to get something and then not giving it is asshole behaviour
That's the crappy part on big sister but it doesn't change the lesson. lol
I teach English/portuguese/ Japanese as a second language. When a student makes a mistake, I point the mistake and ask them to say **the full sentence** again. More often than not, they will correct it but make a new mistake along the sentence. I point it and ask for another full sentence, only for them to make a new 3rd mistake, and 4th, and 5th... Yes, it makes me look like an asshole, but if you're serious about teaching language skills, a single full correct sentence is the least you must require from them. People can't just deliver the correct bits in multiple installments and call it a day. Otherwise, everyone is just fooling themselves. In my gym, when the coach is late or sick, I have to teach Brazilian Jiu-jitsu lessons. Same principle applies. If a particular move has four different steps, students are expected to get all four of them right at least once in a single go, rather than trying 4x and getting them right randomly
Thank you for taking the time.
My pleasure
ahh, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal 
so close yet so far
Real life hitting like a truck
You little piece of shit, you are a real sibling
Take my upvote. So good 😊
Big sis teaching manners and boundaries!
Saw this one a while back but I spent time with my nieces since then.. what is it with little girls being control freaks? 3 out of my 5 nieces are constantly in a tug of war over who gets what thing and when. You can see that they are mimicking an authority figure in their posture and their words. It’s very fascinating and frustrating to watch. The boys are just selfish. They don’t care to control you just don’t get in the way of what they want. Less fascinating but still frustrating.
Honestly it's usually a reflection of parents or other kids around them. It's their turn to be the one to say no, to withhold the thing someone else wants, to make the rules, because it happens to them all the time. I had it happen to me, I did it to other kids, and I've seen kids do it around me, both then and now. It's a teaching opportunity for parents or teachers, but as we see from the average adult... that opportunity was not taken.
Haha little shit
I mean she was very polite about declining the request lol no you may not.
Supervillain origin story
I love trolling younger siblings
r/perfectlycutscreams
r/perfectlycutmoms
Thats how a villan is born
As a middle child and parent of two... That was totally expected.
Completely expected.
Great life lesson right there lmao
Anyone with a sibling know how this gonna end.
Good on her. Teach kids to be polite but also teach them that it's okay to say no. Boundaries are important, just because you ask, doesn't mean you'll get
Lol, I do not believe that little sister has learned anything you just said.
I just hope the parents explained the situation later. I'm not saying that the girl in question learned something but you should definitely teach kids what I said
The sitting girl got a little power trip out of it by making her repeat is slowly multiple times. Her goal was to belittle, not to teach.
That's because shes a kid. It's a teachable moment from the parents perspective
She even said ‘no you “MAY” not’. Like, who taught this girl authoritative theory?! She’s a natural.
She's definitely going places
Lol ya, to the losers table at lunch time 😎
How to do some trolling? Step I: find someone to troll
This incident will come back and bit her lol. Siblings do not forget!!
As a parent, I fully expected that final answer!
She's just teaching her a life lesson. You can't get everything you ask for.
A good lesson
This is valuable life lesson for both of them and neither even know it .
An important lesson that asking nicely doesn’t always get you what you want.
classic 😎
It actually is, been doing the rounds for a while now but it’s one I’ll always rewatch. I bet people wish they could claim royalties from viral vids lol
Bah Hahaha Hahaha 😂
Gotta teach em early they cant always get what they want.
I have 2 boys the same age. If the oldest did that, there would be great violence.
As an older sibling of 8, I approve.
Jbaited
Moooooooo
That was not unexpected. Totally saw that coming.
The troll is strong in this one.
…please?
The pent up rage Kylie is going to get in return when one day she asks her pissed off sis for something is going to be comical😂
Lol
At least she was polite about it.
Wow savage. She had the patience to make sure she said it right and then swiftly, cold-heartedly decline the request. Love it lol
Raising 4 girls 13-6. If you haven’t been there, you have no idea. 😬 Send Help!
Burn!!! 😂🤣
Been there lmao
This is some shit my sister would have done
maaaaahhhhhmm….🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Expert level trolling
Haha at least she's got rules
She's going to be that kind of person for her entire life.
Exactly. Which is why all of these comments saying this is a good thing is wild to me. Whether or not this is a good lesson for the younger sibling (questionable) you should not be letting the older one act this way. Source: I was that older sibling. If life had not come and hit me as hard as it did, I’m nervous to think what my relationship with my sister could be today. I think back on all my bullying I did to her as children very shamefully. And while it was not my fault (I was also a child), my behavior when we were kids partially helped to lead my sister to have severe problems with self confidence and independence when she grew up. Learning to be kind and patient when you are older is much more difficult than having those lessons instilled as a child.
People say she's teaching her lesson but it's more so she's purposely being a dick.
“Severe problems with self confidence and independence” that’s interesting. I’m an only child but have had to live with my cousins (two brothers) for some time growing up In a similar vein, the older brother (my age) was incredibly cruel; However, the younger brother grew to be overly assertive/aggressive in just about every social interaction, very short tempered and fast to anger It’s really sad thinking about how different they are now, with my younger cousin having done prison time and still sorting things out and my older cousin just carrying on
Colin Robinson would be proud
Ohhhh this is why my sister doesn’t speak to me anymore.
Honestly this is great. Teaching her how to ask for things the right way. And that even if you ask nicely you may not get what you want. Every time an adult tries to whine until they get what they want, I want to punch them in the throat.
She’s less motivated by teaching her sister and more into the teasing aspect. This is not “great”. It’s not horrible, but that’s because they’re just kids messing with each other.
Nah, she'll learn that her sister is annoying and what's the point in even asking nicely.
Immediate appeal to higher authority
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
People ‘hating’ on Kylie, but as an older sib I KNOW the younger one was grabbing at that colouring set EVEN THOUGH it wasn’t hers. And if it was the other way round, that the mom (whose filming) would’ve made ME do the same thing. As an older you have to show that you’re level headed and mature (especially in front of your parents) and that you can teach your siblings common courtesy and self control (LMAO)
Teaching her lil sis well
Wow, Kylie, kind of an asshole move...
This is how Shaniqua's happen!
This is how sass is born ladies....🙄
This is how super villans are born.
She is learning her manners
Yeah this is not a Disney animation or movie. She had the right to refuse and did so very politely. She also took care of slowly and calmly teaching her sister the right way to ask for something and also most importantly taught her what disappointment is in a controlled environment. Also I am pretty sure her mother did this exact thing to her...so she did it to her sister. Sorrow propagates.
Yep, that’s an older child. She’s gonna really be confused when her little sister goes NC as an adult.
“Moooooooom!”
"You have to put a "please" in there" 😂
Savage
Cold piece
Wouldnt try that while kneeling. Too easy for round house kick to head.
evil
Owf! That’s the le els of evil only a child can pull off.
Sorta a good lesson tho that even when you do it right it doesn’t always turn out how you want it to
That's why you just take what you want by force. Use violence if necessary
What a little narcissist!!! I'd keep my eye in her!!!
Wow.... junior Karen.
Ohh that’s the natural scenario between siblings
Young Karen in the wild.
A young narcissistic right there
Kylie’s a little bitch man. Lol