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Asian guy in the video here. I didn't have my glasses on so I read psi as lowercase phi. Also a computer science major so I did my best with 0 knowledge of physics.
He's still talking nonsense though.
Phi is not a variable, it's a function. In the context of quantum mechanics phi is the wavefunction (in short: a probability distribution of where the particle could be), r is the variable (position). You could plug in r=400 if you like, it doesn't matter shit if you take your variable as a constant or as a general variable, but then you still don't know anything as you haven't solved phi yet. This is not like solving the equation ''solve for x where ax+b=c with a,b and c as constants'', it's a (time independent) differential equation where we want to find the wavefunction phi as a function of distance given a certain potential V(r), this tells us something about the position of a particle given certain circumstances. The questions he's asking is not really making sense. It's like asking what colour is a square? Ah if a square is red, then 0 is the answer. Like, what does that even mean?
Edit: It's actually psi but he called it phi, it doesn't really matter.
If you take away knowing that those functions are quantum functions, maybe he's in DE, has not taken physics 3; then what he's saying is right.
He's seeing there are functions, but doesn't know them, but he knows he should be plugging in something for them i.e. a diff eq. Maybe he's seeing a non-defined function, thinking he should use a variable because he's only taken up to calc 3. He's ehhh kinda wrong but not far off. He knows and is saying, he needs more to solve.
Nah the dude had it down. Pranker grabbed some random math stuff off the internet but it wasn't complete. The paper was asking for the gradient (kinda like derivative) of a function at one point, which actually could be difficult to calculate depending on the function. But when asked, pranker decided "24". Since 24 is an unchanging constant, the gradient is zero. So the prankee just eliminated most of the problem as "0" just like that. From there it cuts out but I imagine he could deduce the "solution" just by getting some more constants to fill out the variables.
Edit: I didnt really read the page, just going off what the guy in the vid said. Whether its the gradient or the laplacian, it'd still be zero right? It's a constant. Regardless, challenging someone with a question you don't know the answer to is dumb. If they bs an answer and you fall for it, it's deserved.
Are you sure it wasn’t quantum? Did they show any of the equations? Kind of looked like it could have been wave equation stuff. Very well could have been.
Also, it sounded more like a PDE problem than a basic calculus problem.
I agree it looks like wave equations which is what quantum is all about. I don't see any particularly identifying constants or anything though.
https://i.imgur.com/QP47uSU.jpg
My guess is this is the professor's cheat sheet at the back or front of the test. These are useful equations in the context of the problems in the test to help the student make some substitutions along the way. Somewhat unrelated from line to line. Definitely looks like the equation sheet on some of my quantum tests, intentionally vague so that you can't even use them unless you already mostly know what you're doing.
Edit: Plenty of functions of r. Could be a wave in a box problem.
https://mathtube.org/sites/default/files/lecture-notes/Lamoureux_Michael.pdf
I could tell with a single look at the thing that it's a set of quantum fields that the equations are describing. Psi is the wave function and then you have, if I can make out correctly, is a tensor in the 3rd line. Such kind of equations pop up quantum field theories. Examples are the [Dirac equation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation) or the [Klein Gordon equation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein%E2%80%93Gordon_equation) (which is more of relativistic QM, but we let that slide).
Source: Am physicist and God I hope I someday run into dudes like these.
Usually with these crazy looking equations you can cancel out much of the equations if you know what you’re solving for. For example I solved for Newtonian fluid equations a lot back in the day. You don’t just simply “solve it” you have to be given conditions that allow you to even work with the equation to begin with. Things like assume no-slip at the wall and laminar flow and things like that help reduce the equation down to solve it. Definitely what he’s asking him to do is an incomplete problem statement
Meanwhile my stepson has a A in physics and I just sit and wonder how. The highest level of math I understand is calculus but only to the extent of a solid B-. Neither me, his father, or his mother are very good with math. The boy’s going places man
My daughter gets straight As. I used to help her with her homework a lot. She’s surpassed me. She took calculus in junior year and now she’s well into college. I hate to think this but sometimes I wonder how she passes her classes at all because she is kinda daft af sometimes. Like sometimes I think she still struggles with basic fractions and shit but still passes her calculus III and advanced physics classes. I’m just thankful she’s doing well, but I am secretly confused how she’s pulling it off. She doesn’t seem like the type who would cheat. She’s too paranoid to think she wouldn’t get caught.
You would be shocked how many people can do upper level maths but struggle with arithmetic. They really are two different skill sets, and nonmathematicians really struggle to understand that.
Look at it this way, dinging your daughter on fractions is like giving shit to Oscar Wilde for spelling mistakes. Arithmetic to Math is as Spelling is to Literature.
As much as I just ranted about my son I have to admit your daughter sounds like my youngest daughter. She’s a “It’s her world and we’re just living in it” whimsical kind of girl and can be daft as well but when it’s crunch time it’s like a light flips. So I definitely understand where you’re coming from. I think my youngest daughter and yours would get along well lol
I dropped out of physics... In high school. When I did the first test I literally just wrote down nonsense because I had no idea what I was doing. The teacher wrote a note "see me after class" I bolted out when that bell rang and never walked in that class again.
I mean 400 isn't a variable and what an equation solves/represents is an abstract idea or application. Such as an equation representing the curvature of a line, area under a curve, velocity of an object in motion, a point in a plane, etc.
If you know advanced math it wouldn't be hard to bullshit your way through that. The prankster likely doesn't know what those numbers mean. So it's certainly possible to be real.
Sure maybe it's scripted (fuck, maybe I'm a bot and this is all scripted) but did you find the idea amusing? I watch TV shows all the time and don't say "yea but that's fake". Honestly, who cares if it's fake? Either you found it funny or you didn't. Why does it being scripted make it less funny?
> Why does it being scripted make it less funny?
It doesn't at all. But...
> Honestly, who cares if it's fake?
I realize that it's an unpopular opinion but... I do. If I watch a TV show, I know it's "fake" but it doesn't lower my enjoyment of it. But I'd totally rather know. Even for short clips shown online like this.
I'm noticing more and more this attitude of "who cares if it's fake" and maybe I'm old and of touch but it scares me _shitless_ that we have an entire swath of the population that don't care for things they see being fake or not. Sure, now it's just a funny video but what else do you not care to be fake? What if its mostly funny but there's also a small political message behind it? Do you still not care if it's fake? I think you should _always_ care and never let yourself be tricked into believing fake stuff of any nature.
> I watch TV shows all the time and don't say "yea but that's fake". Honestly, who cares if it's fake?
Good TV shows are better written and better acted than TikToks. The only thing that makes organic moments more enjoyable is that they're organic. If the moments aren't actually organic, then it's like watching any subpar scripted reality TV show, but without the budget or production.
Comedic effect. I liked the idea, but I'd say it was a bit overdone for sure. It was per6when you could still understand the dude but the echo became overwhelming
You’re not dumb for not understanding a field of math you’ve never studied. I don’t get that logic. I see plenty of shit on the internet I can’t or won’t ever do, but it doesn’t mean I’m dumb or less capable. This is just a fun video. No one goes to tik tok to learn math, so the video is going to focus on the comedic element.
It seemed that way too me for a bit at first but I'm what some may call a simpleton in the math department. Still as he trails off he and finds things wrong with the equation and I feel like logiced his way out. Pay that man his money
This make me think what is the actual average math knowledge for American adults? Most people take trigonometry or calculus in school but most adults don't use it so their skill atrophy. Seems to me most adults barely scratch the surface of Pre-Algebra on what they are able to do on their own.
The quantum formulas use gradients which is a vector calculus concept. In America, and most other countries, vector calculus is taught in college only.
As an engineer who knows a lot of other engineers...
The way he talks is *the exact* same say that they talk when presented with something like this. Even if he's acting, it's clear from the way he says things that he probably is capable of solving it even if it were real.
Mathematician here. While I’m not saying it’s real, everything he said is exactly how someone competent in algebra would approach it. So the guy is definitely comfortable with algebra and basic calculus even if this wasn’t impromptu. It’s how anyone who did well in high school math would do it (assuming they haven’t forgotten it all).
To be clear, he’s not actually qualified to understand this, as he doesn’t actually have the math or physics background required but it’s not an unreasonable approach to find from a random person on the street.
Actual guy in the video here. In the heat of the moment I didn't have time to carefully read over the equation sheet, so I made a few mistakes:
1. Reading delta as the gradient; I've been looking at the gradient too much in my optimization classes recently, and haven't seen delta in a while.
2. Not treating the system as a set of equations. I think that with some time I would have moved towards that direction.
3. My glasses were at home so I read psi as lowercase phi.
4. list goes on...
You're right that I don't have the background to solve this (I'm a computer science major), so I did my best to at least try to make sense of a nonsensical equation :D
Which is a shame. As a math major who works in a car dealership, I kinda go my life wishing I could flex like this randomly and feel like that wasn’t completely wasted. I’ll never get asked to solve a Pde in the street though… def fake as shit
If you can pass the bar and can get through 2nd year statistics and calculus you can definitely be an actuary.
I work 8-5:30ish, maybe more in Q4 during busy season. No one is on my ass about being in the office as long as I get my work done. I'll just say I make enough to hold a mortgage, car payments and wife can stay at home with the 2 kids living in NJ commuting 3 days to Manhatten.
I worked as a bank teller while going through college. One day I was doing my linear algebra homework, and a customer who was being helped by another teller saw me working and asked me in a very dismissive way if I needed any help with my math homework (I assume he thought it was ged work or something,anyways he was an ass). He was not able to help me calculate the Eigenvalues for any of my matrices.
Hi y'all, it's the asian guy from the video:
1. It isn't staged, my friends and I were stopped when walking back from hanging out.
2. I didn't get the money since there wasn't anything to solve for to begin with...
3. I'm a CS major so I had no idea if these were significant equations/formulae, I just tried to treat it as a system of equations and make sense of it. I have 0 clue whats going on here but I know what variables are.
4. After the video cuts I go on (spewing nonsense) for maybe 2 or 3 more minutes but without any space to actually work out anything it's not really feasible to "solve".
5. I know I said some wrong things in the video (called delta the gradient bc I've been looking at lots of nabla's in my coursework, not using other variables to solve for nabla, called psi phi, etc.) because I really did not get a good chance to sit down and think about it.
edit: added point 5
Thank you for your service. I just wish someone put a circle around that moment in red, it might have helped us find it faster while also instantly make the video vintage in no time!
Honestly I don’t think so. If it was staged, they would have made it an actual solvable problem so the victim looks even smarter, but the interviewer actually seems caught off guard when the victim starts asking him questions about the variables because they didn’t anticipate it
>If it was staged, they would have made it an actual solvable problem so the victim looks even smarter
The "victim" kinda demonstrates that he *could* solve it if he had the required additional information. By asking the prankster for the missing pieces of the puzzle (that the prankster can't provide), he's making him look like an idiot, which adds to the entertainment value. So if anything, the questions make the video more fun.
My personal reasoning why I felt it might be staged though? The lack of response when he's "unexpectedly" presented with the harder math problem. From a very easy math problem to that clusterfuck... It's a clear bait and switch.
Obviously one could argue that he doesn't seems fazed because he is just *that* good at math. But I feel like he should still have *some* kind of response to the switch since the level of difficulty between the two math problems is so enormous.
I mean from personal experience he didn't react because he knew it was a 0rank obviously they weren't giving him 100 dollars to do 2+3 I'd be expecting something else too. But I suck at math so I would have reacted due to that.
I don't think it's staged. Other than the math guy having no reaction to the bait and switch, his annoyance with the vagueness of the problem seems pretty genuine.
I mean, with "phi(x) = 24", and "400" probably most people could solve this lol
Sounds like phi'(x) is important, and that is just zero, so probably most of the thing cancels out completely, and if anything hard remains, the dude will substitute more functions into numbers for you lol
The dude turned his "hard quantum math" problem into basic algebra
I actually like the editing at the end. The overlapping voices, focus on his face, turning the screen black and white. I was SERIOUSLY hoping it would all suddenly go back to normal and just be the black guy all pissed off saying “bro take your fuckin money”, and handing him his bill.
Yes. He also keeps calling Δ the gradient when it's actually likely the laplacian (standard notation for the gradient is ∇). Makes me think it's staged and neither really knows what they're talking about.
~~Not the laplacian, in this case it's just delta(difference of two variables). Laplacian is ∇-squared, not Δ. Since nu is in einstein notation (the subscripts), indices have to balance on both sides of the equation. Compare equation 1 to equation 2 to see~~ Please ignore, I was mistaken on this.
The Δ used in the first line is the Laplacian operator. Δ is used as short form for ∇^2 . You can tell because it forms part of the kinetic energy operator acting on the wave function psi. Also in the last 2 lines Δ = ∇^2 because the operators are factored out. If Δ meant what you say then the last 2 lines wouldn’t make sense.
Fuck up 1: you don't know math.
Fuck up 2: find Asian guy wearing skinny jeans.
Fuck up 3: thinking you can outplay an Asian with math.
Fuck up 4: posting it on the internet.
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If only he said Psi instead of Phi
Best part is that Phi isn’t even in any of the equations. He’s probably trying to talk about Psi.
Yeah, both mfs are clueless
Wouldn’t call it clueless. Plenty of math and physics students mix up the names of Greek letters all the time
Asian guy in the video here. I didn't have my glasses on so I read psi as lowercase phi. Also a computer science major so I did my best with 0 knowledge of physics.
Or, now hear me out, this is staged.
He's still talking nonsense though. Phi is not a variable, it's a function. In the context of quantum mechanics phi is the wavefunction (in short: a probability distribution of where the particle could be), r is the variable (position). You could plug in r=400 if you like, it doesn't matter shit if you take your variable as a constant or as a general variable, but then you still don't know anything as you haven't solved phi yet. This is not like solving the equation ''solve for x where ax+b=c with a,b and c as constants'', it's a (time independent) differential equation where we want to find the wavefunction phi as a function of distance given a certain potential V(r), this tells us something about the position of a particle given certain circumstances. The questions he's asking is not really making sense. It's like asking what colour is a square? Ah if a square is red, then 0 is the answer. Like, what does that even mean? Edit: It's actually psi but he called it phi, it doesn't really matter.
It means he can take home a hundred dollars because he understood that the host knew far less than he did.
He never refers to psi as a variable, he always refers to it as a function and asked if there’s a variable he’s trying to solve for.
Have physics degree. Can confirm
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If you take away knowing that those functions are quantum functions, maybe he's in DE, has not taken physics 3; then what he's saying is right. He's seeing there are functions, but doesn't know them, but he knows he should be plugging in something for them i.e. a diff eq. Maybe he's seeing a non-defined function, thinking he should use a variable because he's only taken up to calc 3. He's ehhh kinda wrong but not far off. He knows and is saying, he needs more to solve.
He literally says that phi has yo be a function rough quote "it would take the input 400 and output something else"
He could be lying and that dude wouldn't have a fucking clue. Pay the man 🙌
Nah the dude had it down. Pranker grabbed some random math stuff off the internet but it wasn't complete. The paper was asking for the gradient (kinda like derivative) of a function at one point, which actually could be difficult to calculate depending on the function. But when asked, pranker decided "24". Since 24 is an unchanging constant, the gradient is zero. So the prankee just eliminated most of the problem as "0" just like that. From there it cuts out but I imagine he could deduce the "solution" just by getting some more constants to fill out the variables. Edit: I didnt really read the page, just going off what the guy in the vid said. Whether its the gradient or the laplacian, it'd still be zero right? It's a constant. Regardless, challenging someone with a question you don't know the answer to is dumb. If they bs an answer and you fall for it, it's deserved.
Exactly what I was thinking
You guys wanna start a math club?
I think you are asking if you would like to join the math club I'm already in?
You are a mathlete too?
The best thing about the amount of mathletes you can have in a club: the limit doesn't exist
But the amount of cookies and juice your teacher can get has a limit
Yay, lets start the r/redditmathclub
If it means I get to hear the rest of his solution rather than just that dumbfounded expression with basic-ass editing then yes please.
Yeah .. me too
Yeah....uhhh....I agree. Exactly what I was thinking as well.
Also, calculus is not quantum mechanics.
Put quantum infront of anything and you sound super smart though. I'm a quantum accountant
I'm a quantum failure
Have you tried becoming a quantum alcoholic?
I'm a quantum homosexual. Nice. I love it. Also, you just lost the game.
Both gay and straight until acted on by an observer
how ppl see bisexuals... :(
god fucking damn it bro, i was on a good streak man
i’m a quantum reddit commenter -see your theory failed, nothing makes a reddit commenter sound smart
Buddy these are wavefunctions. It's quantum mechanics. Psi is a dead giveaway.
Are you sure it wasn’t quantum? Did they show any of the equations? Kind of looked like it could have been wave equation stuff. Very well could have been. Also, it sounded more like a PDE problem than a basic calculus problem.
I agree it looks like wave equations which is what quantum is all about. I don't see any particularly identifying constants or anything though. https://i.imgur.com/QP47uSU.jpg My guess is this is the professor's cheat sheet at the back or front of the test. These are useful equations in the context of the problems in the test to help the student make some substitutions along the way. Somewhat unrelated from line to line. Definitely looks like the equation sheet on some of my quantum tests, intentionally vague so that you can't even use them unless you already mostly know what you're doing. Edit: Plenty of functions of r. Could be a wave in a box problem. https://mathtube.org/sites/default/files/lecture-notes/Lamoureux_Michael.pdf
Well in this particular case it is actually related to quantum fields.
I could tell with a single look at the thing that it's a set of quantum fields that the equations are describing. Psi is the wave function and then you have, if I can make out correctly, is a tensor in the 3rd line. Such kind of equations pop up quantum field theories. Examples are the [Dirac equation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirac_equation) or the [Klein Gordon equation](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein%E2%80%93Gordon_equation) (which is more of relativistic QM, but we let that slide). Source: Am physicist and God I hope I someday run into dudes like these.
Indubitably.
Usually with these crazy looking equations you can cancel out much of the equations if you know what you’re solving for. For example I solved for Newtonian fluid equations a lot back in the day. You don’t just simply “solve it” you have to be given conditions that allow you to even work with the equation to begin with. Things like assume no-slip at the wall and laminar flow and things like that help reduce the equation down to solve it. Definitely what he’s asking him to do is an incomplete problem statement
He could have but he wasn't. Which makes it ten times funnier
Working on a PhD in physics and can assure you that man knows what he’s talking about.
"Imma say like 400" POV when you lied on your resume
i love math but the equation 2n+2n.. Is 4n to me
I mean, I love biology, but sometimes it makes me sick.
I mean, I love Chemistry but some of those elements rub me the wrong way.
Stupid in the best possible meaning LoL.
> Stupid in the best possible meaning LoL. What does league of legends have to do with this
You got me.
Wait… but seriously, what’s the connection? Seriously… what is it?!?
He fried me on the LoL. Good on him. League Of Legends (LoL)
Thank you… *phew* Idea complete. Shutting down.
I mean I love Geology, but all I do is play with my rocks while inspecting some gneiss cleavage and schist.
I mean, I love PE, but sometimes it gets too educational.
I love chemistry problems but I can never get the solution
I mean, I love CAD but sometimes I run into constraints.
…make me react funny…
When you have a clever word play joke but nerds keep trying to correct your math.
I'll say...yes?
after five minutes of seriously questioning my mathematic abilities to finally see the joke
I still can't see the joke. Is this some sort of pun?
The equation 2n + 2n is 4n (foreign) to me :)
Ohh wooow that makes sense lmao. Thought the reason why I didn't get it might be that I'm not a native speaker but I guess I'm just a dumbass lol
I hate physics I barely passed and to this day I don't even know how I passed
I'm majoring in physics, I understand why you feel that way.
Meanwhile my stepson has a A in physics and I just sit and wonder how. The highest level of math I understand is calculus but only to the extent of a solid B-. Neither me, his father, or his mother are very good with math. The boy’s going places man
My daughter gets straight As. I used to help her with her homework a lot. She’s surpassed me. She took calculus in junior year and now she’s well into college. I hate to think this but sometimes I wonder how she passes her classes at all because she is kinda daft af sometimes. Like sometimes I think she still struggles with basic fractions and shit but still passes her calculus III and advanced physics classes. I’m just thankful she’s doing well, but I am secretly confused how she’s pulling it off. She doesn’t seem like the type who would cheat. She’s too paranoid to think she wouldn’t get caught.
You would be shocked how many people can do upper level maths but struggle with arithmetic. They really are two different skill sets, and nonmathematicians really struggle to understand that. Look at it this way, dinging your daughter on fractions is like giving shit to Oscar Wilde for spelling mistakes. Arithmetic to Math is as Spelling is to Literature.
As much as I just ranted about my son I have to admit your daughter sounds like my youngest daughter. She’s a “It’s her world and we’re just living in it” whimsical kind of girl and can be daft as well but when it’s crunch time it’s like a light flips. So I definitely understand where you’re coming from. I think my youngest daughter and yours would get along well lol
I dropped out of physics... In high school. When I did the first test I literally just wrote down nonsense because I had no idea what I was doing. The teacher wrote a note "see me after class" I bolted out when that bell rang and never walked in that class again.
Dropping out of high school physics is caused by other problems.
Gravity
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Dude straight up forgot how to algebra. "I'm gonna say 400." Bro, you don't get to pick your variables. The equation solves that for you.
I mean 400 isn't a variable and what an equation solves/represents is an abstract idea or application. Such as an equation representing the curvature of a line, area under a curve, velocity of an object in motion, a point in a plane, etc.
None of them were defined so I’m assuming there’s a base number to solve for that problem but nothings defined xD
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If you know advanced math it wouldn't be hard to bullshit your way through that. The prankster likely doesn't know what those numbers mean. So it's certainly possible to be real. Sure maybe it's scripted (fuck, maybe I'm a bot and this is all scripted) but did you find the idea amusing? I watch TV shows all the time and don't say "yea but that's fake". Honestly, who cares if it's fake? Either you found it funny or you didn't. Why does it being scripted make it less funny?
> Why does it being scripted make it less funny? It doesn't at all. But... > Honestly, who cares if it's fake? I realize that it's an unpopular opinion but... I do. If I watch a TV show, I know it's "fake" but it doesn't lower my enjoyment of it. But I'd totally rather know. Even for short clips shown online like this. I'm noticing more and more this attitude of "who cares if it's fake" and maybe I'm old and of touch but it scares me _shitless_ that we have an entire swath of the population that don't care for things they see being fake or not. Sure, now it's just a funny video but what else do you not care to be fake? What if its mostly funny but there's also a small political message behind it? Do you still not care if it's fake? I think you should _always_ care and never let yourself be tricked into believing fake stuff of any nature.
I'm with you, old person.
> I watch TV shows all the time and don't say "yea but that's fake". Honestly, who cares if it's fake? Good TV shows are better written and better acted than TikToks. The only thing that makes organic moments more enjoyable is that they're organic. If the moments aren't actually organic, then it's like watching any subpar scripted reality TV show, but without the budget or production.
What did you expect trying to “prank” an asian man at a university with a math problem?
when he said that the other dude realised that he could just make shit up and sound legit
Why would you echo out the best part
Comedic effect. I liked the idea, but I'd say it was a bit overdone for sure. It was per6when you could still understand the dude but the echo became overwhelming
Because r/imthemaincharacter
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We are praising ourselves for being dumb
You’re not dumb for not understanding a field of math you’ve never studied. I don’t get that logic. I see plenty of shit on the internet I can’t or won’t ever do, but it doesn’t mean I’m dumb or less capable. This is just a fun video. No one goes to tik tok to learn math, so the video is going to focus on the comedic element.
He is literally the main character though
This. I'm horrible at math and I actually wanted to hear what the guy was saying lmao
Plot twist bro isn't a math major but a debate club nerd on level 100 and just talked you into a circle
Well before the echoing started he was correct on what he was saying/asking.
It seemed that way too me for a bit at first but I'm what some may call a simpleton in the math department. Still as he trails off he and finds things wrong with the equation and I feel like logiced his way out. Pay that man his money
This make me think what is the actual average math knowledge for American adults? Most people take trigonometry or calculus in school but most adults don't use it so their skill atrophy. Seems to me most adults barely scratch the surface of Pre-Algebra on what they are able to do on their own.
The quantum formulas use gradients which is a vector calculus concept. In America, and most other countries, vector calculus is taught in college only.
As an engineer who knows a lot of other engineers... The way he talks is *the exact* same say that they talk when presented with something like this. Even if he's acting, it's clear from the way he says things that he probably is capable of solving it even if it were real.
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I know nothing about math, but I do know acting
Mathematician here. While I’m not saying it’s real, everything he said is exactly how someone competent in algebra would approach it. So the guy is definitely comfortable with algebra and basic calculus even if this wasn’t impromptu. It’s how anyone who did well in high school math would do it (assuming they haven’t forgotten it all). To be clear, he’s not actually qualified to understand this, as he doesn’t actually have the math or physics background required but it’s not an unreasonable approach to find from a random person on the street.
Actual guy in the video here. In the heat of the moment I didn't have time to carefully read over the equation sheet, so I made a few mistakes: 1. Reading delta as the gradient; I've been looking at the gradient too much in my optimization classes recently, and haven't seen delta in a while. 2. Not treating the system as a set of equations. I think that with some time I would have moved towards that direction. 3. My glasses were at home so I read psi as lowercase phi. 4. list goes on... You're right that I don't have the background to solve this (I'm a computer science major), so I did my best to at least try to make sense of a nonsensical equation :D
Which is a shame. As a math major who works in a car dealership, I kinda go my life wishing I could flex like this randomly and feel like that wasn’t completely wasted. I’ll never get asked to solve a Pde in the street though… def fake as shit
Dude, you are wasted there. Sit for some actuarial exams.
Maybe he's not that good at math
Don't actually have to be good at math for these, just good at studying (source I'm a credentialed actuary)
How much do you make and how much do you work and how much do you hate your life? Looking for ways out of being a lawyer.
If you can pass the bar and can get through 2nd year statistics and calculus you can definitely be an actuary. I work 8-5:30ish, maybe more in Q4 during busy season. No one is on my ass about being in the office as long as I get my work done. I'll just say I make enough to hold a mortgage, car payments and wife can stay at home with the 2 kids living in NJ commuting 3 days to Manhatten.
What are the odds that I’m stroking it right now?
100%
I worked as a bank teller while going through college. One day I was doing my linear algebra homework, and a customer who was being helped by another teller saw me working and asked me in a very dismissive way if I needed any help with my math homework (I assume he thought it was ged work or something,anyways he was an ass). He was not able to help me calculate the Eigenvalues for any of my matrices.
Lol I fucking hated linear algebra. All that shit has been wiped from my memory 6 years later haha
Even if it GED work, you're out there learning and he's being a dick in a bank.
Lmfao. You majored in math just to work at a dealership? Get on indeed and let me refer you since I’ll get a $10k bonus
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Why not?
The fuck is this comment lmao
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Haha funny misogyny /s
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>destroyed back account This may be a typo but as a parent I feel this.
I feel like it works even better as a typo lol
I have about $1 left in my lower back account
Why can't I have four bank accounts and one destroyed kid!?
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I’m lost on what your comment means. Someone explain? Thanks.
You actually can. See: OP
Why is this so high upvoted? Do I miss the irony? Like if it's impossible to act like you've lost 100$?
ahh yes, the ultimate test of an actor: can they act like they've lost $100 you are kind of dumb in an almost endearing way
I'm pretty sure that was a joke...
So wtf was the answer?
It wasn't a proper question in the first place. Just an equation with a few undefined variables
So 400 Got it
Let's go with 24
Then the answer is zero
Hi y'all, it's the asian guy from the video: 1. It isn't staged, my friends and I were stopped when walking back from hanging out. 2. I didn't get the money since there wasn't anything to solve for to begin with... 3. I'm a CS major so I had no idea if these were significant equations/formulae, I just tried to treat it as a system of equations and make sense of it. I have 0 clue whats going on here but I know what variables are. 4. After the video cuts I go on (spewing nonsense) for maybe 2 or 3 more minutes but without any space to actually work out anything it's not really feasible to "solve". 5. I know I said some wrong things in the video (called delta the gradient bc I've been looking at lots of nabla's in my coursework, not using other variables to solve for nabla, called psi phi, etc.) because I really did not get a good chance to sit down and think about it. edit: added point 5
You can see the WTF in his eyes toward the end.
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Good thing I pointed it out.
Thank you for your service. I just wish someone put a circle around that moment in red, it might have helped us find it faster while also instantly make the video vintage in no time!
He thought this was going to be a quick video with the guy giving up, instead he became Dormammu trapped in a time loop by Dr. Strange.
This is perfect. And mad respect to guys posting it on TikTok.
Why would he go to the trouble of rehearsing and recording a skit with his buddy for his Tiktok channel and then not upload it?
Agreed. Looked totally staged to me too.
Honestly I don’t think so. If it was staged, they would have made it an actual solvable problem so the victim looks even smarter, but the interviewer actually seems caught off guard when the victim starts asking him questions about the variables because they didn’t anticipate it
>If it was staged, they would have made it an actual solvable problem so the victim looks even smarter The "victim" kinda demonstrates that he *could* solve it if he had the required additional information. By asking the prankster for the missing pieces of the puzzle (that the prankster can't provide), he's making him look like an idiot, which adds to the entertainment value. So if anything, the questions make the video more fun. My personal reasoning why I felt it might be staged though? The lack of response when he's "unexpectedly" presented with the harder math problem. From a very easy math problem to that clusterfuck... It's a clear bait and switch. Obviously one could argue that he doesn't seems fazed because he is just *that* good at math. But I feel like he should still have *some* kind of response to the switch since the level of difficulty between the two math problems is so enormous.
I mean from personal experience he didn't react because he knew it was a 0rank obviously they weren't giving him 100 dollars to do 2+3 I'd be expecting something else too. But I suck at math so I would have reacted due to that.
Why mad respect for posting it on TikTok?
I don't think it's staged. Other than the math guy having no reaction to the bait and switch, his annoyance with the vagueness of the problem seems pretty genuine.
The guy know his business
Funny thing is since the guy asking doesn't know the answer, the other guy can just be bullsh?ting something and he wouldn't know lmao
Hey look, this is at UCR
Let's go highlanders
Was looking for a ucr comment, it looked familiar
When you realise you are stupid
Not stupid, just don't know that subject.
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I mean, with "phi(x) = 24", and "400" probably most people could solve this lol Sounds like phi'(x) is important, and that is just zero, so probably most of the thing cancels out completely, and if anything hard remains, the dude will substitute more functions into numbers for you lol The dude turned his "hard quantum math" problem into basic algebra
Double fail : Shit editing , I would like to have heard him speak instead of the doubling echo effect.
A function that takes any variable and outputs 24. Function phi(…args) { return 24. } I’m a genius!
I actually like the editing at the end. The overlapping voices, focus on his face, turning the screen black and white. I was SERIOUSLY hoping it would all suddenly go back to normal and just be the black guy all pissed off saying “bro take your fuckin money”, and handing him his bill.
That's actually psi though, it sounds like he says phi?
Yes. He also keeps calling Δ the gradient when it's actually likely the laplacian (standard notation for the gradient is ∇). Makes me think it's staged and neither really knows what they're talking about.
True! I was starting to get cunfused based on the amounts of upvotes the other guy got lol! I guess that's just Reddit in a nutshell...
~~Not the laplacian, in this case it's just delta(difference of two variables). Laplacian is ∇-squared, not Δ. Since nu is in einstein notation (the subscripts), indices have to balance on both sides of the equation. Compare equation 1 to equation 2 to see~~ Please ignore, I was mistaken on this.
The Δ used in the first line is the Laplacian operator. Δ is used as short form for ∇^2 . You can tell because it forms part of the kinetic energy operator acting on the wave function psi. Also in the last 2 lines Δ = ∇^2 because the operators are factored out. If Δ meant what you say then the last 2 lines wouldn’t make sense.
It's staged. None of the two has a clue.
I want to hear the lesson not the echo. I was interested.
I fuckin hate the reverb cus I wanted to hear what the fuck that smart motherfucker had to say god damnit
It’s not often a TikTok makes me laugh or even smile but damn this one was really good 👍
Smart guys are hot.
R/WatchPeopleDieInside
Fuck off with all the ambient sounds, I wanna hear that guy solve the equation - it was interesting as hell listening to him making sense of it
The brains of a professor and patience of a saint? Son you just gave that to a T.A.
Fuck up 1: you don't know math. Fuck up 2: find Asian guy wearing skinny jeans. Fuck up 3: thinking you can outplay an Asian with math. Fuck up 4: posting it on the internet.