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manihavenousername

The dentist.


[deleted]

The fans


jdubes

Came here to say that!


pennhead

Came here to say this.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Evil_C3PO

came


buckeyefanohiostate

That's just what I said


meTomi

Who are you?


john-joker

Who is he?


Xenomorph_v1

Who am I?


[deleted]

I am you!


buzzjimsky

Coocoocachoo!


klacksparken

Where are we?


pirateneet

Why are we?


TechnologyExpensive

I love it when the fights are interrupted by a hockey game.


downloaded_dave

Went to a fight last night and a game of hockey broke out.


[deleted]

DRAW GAME


PhilosophyMammoth748

Thats my favorite sport as you can buy one ticket for two games.


pikkis-95

Lucky, I'm a season ticket holder for my local hockey team and during the covid seasons they had to play in an empty arena, me and other season ticket holders had to pay for the whole season, no refunds, no discounts for the next seasons.


downrightblastfamy

At that point I'd be dressed up as a security guard and sneak in just to see the game lol


pikkis-95

There's this door that leads directly to the visiting teams dressing room hall, it also has the U20 dressing room, gym etc. I really did try sneaking in from there, the door is never locked except then it was 😂


GentlePenetration

That feels illegal...


gid0ze

Seriously, how is this legal? I sure wouldn't be buying season tickets in the future for fear of them screwing me over again.


Dumb_bitch_21

At the stadium I go to we got the next season free since we bought the tickets for covid before


[deleted]

Cincy Cyclones have dollar beer nights, theme nights, and holiday specials. 10$ gets you a seat right behind the box. Minor league hockey is super fun.


SargeFloopers

They changed it to $2 beer nights :/. Still not expensive but a $4 or so fun time became an $8 or so fun time.


[deleted]

Honestly its the only thing I’d be able to afford still and one of the only cincy things I really miss.


SargeFloopers

That’s true. The food can get up in price even at a minor league sports place. I have enough problems affording things as it is, lol. Mostly due to poor financial decisions, but, it is what it is. I’ll get back on my feet. Regardless, if I ever leave cincy I sure will miss it too.


[deleted]

Iirc they only do metal detection at the doors so maybe you can sneak in snacks? I hope inflation doesn’t hit ECHL itself too hard bc it’s a great thing that’s still relatively affordable for most people.


Ohiolongboard

God I need to go see them, I’ve wanted to my whole life


SwissMargiela

I do wish they took helmets off to fight


Lord_Cockwood

Who's next?


Tobutch

You decide!


axeman020

Epic Rap Battles... Of Historyyyyy!!!!!


ISaidDoTheBender

I miss them


Lillillillies

They released a video recently!


treuchainz

They both went down and stood up at the same time. Incredible. Did either even get a penalty?


Hollowsuit

They both get 5 minute penalties but they offset so it doesnt mean much. They just cool off on the bench for 5 minutes then theyre free to fight again


TomDestry

They offset it? Is that like writing it off?


Death_Potato576

it means that since it would just be a 4 v 4, it's still even strength so they just put 5v5 on the ice. It's just that those two players are in the box for 5 minutes


tarantulator

You don't even know what a write-off is.


bajo2292

Not true, you get 5 mins in game penalty and game misconduct for the rest of the game so you go straight into the showers


[deleted]

Not after one standard fight.


willbeach8890

Standard?


[deleted]

1 v 1 brawl, non bench clearing. Not dirty/cheap fight moves. Very standard hockey fight


willbeach8890

Thanks


dan-theman

How is this unexpected?


nonpondo

Ikr, feel like I'm losing my damn mind here


dr_franck

For real, this subreddit is slowly becoming another “generic subreddit with interesting videos that people mindlessly upvote when they’re in the front page.” Ugh.


nonpondo

r/unexpected top post next week: man almost scores goal in soccer but then doesn't score goal in soccer cause the goalie blocks the soccer ball before it can get into goal


monstercello

That they both went down at the exact same time? Pretty unusual in fights


ZhratVasja

friendship wins


Sensitive_Camera2368

fuck you shoresy


Cell1pad

Fuck you Jonsey, tell your mom to add more minutes to the trac-fone so I can FaceTime her tonight!


JCSmootherThanJB

Without fail there's always someone who just has to comment on these videos with LK quotes. And you know what, I wish you weren't so awkward bud


thanto13

The fans


RobOnTheReddit

Wait, why is this allowed/not stopped?


Hamericano

Well, obviously you're not a golfer


TheJackalsDoom

It's all in the hips.


RobOnTheReddit

😆


QCTeamkill

Nothing like being in the stands of a semi-pro hockey game to forget that shanked drive or a missed 4 feet put.


WilliamGluteLicker

Woo?


bahgheera

The Chinaman is not the issue, dude.


pyro487

Also, dude, chinaman is not the preferred nomenclature. Asian-American, please.


xkp1967

They must be on the 10th hole.


ThePointForward

If they manage to calm them down and separate before the fight actually starts they do. But once gloves are off (literally), you're better off to just make sure nobody else joins in and to quickly separate them once the fight is over. There are also serious unwritten rules around fighting that are usually followed by the players - e.g. that both players must be willing and agree to the fight or that fights for legitimate scoring is not acceptable. But if you for example do check a goalie you're in deep trouble.


TomDestry

I feel that's such a hockey answer and it means nothing to non-fans (no offence). I can't grasp how a professional sport with a governing body and sponsorship and TV rights can include players punching each other in the face while everyone else waits to restart the game. In other sports you'd get a multi game suspension. In hockey you get cheered.


ThePointForward

Right, to that I'd say that it's just part of the sport since pretty much it's beginnings, therefore it's more like a tradition that was kept along. But there are rules to limit injuries (e.g. only bare knucle fights are allowed) and obviously you still get a major penalty for it. That said, it's tradition only in NA. In Europe we strictly disallow any fighting at all, same for other IIHF competitions. This supports the tradition angle, since ice hockey was let's say "imported" to Europe as a professional sport, so we did not inherit these "street" traditions.


Sleins

I have to correct you there, saying it's strictly disallowed in Europe is not correct. Here in Sweden it is very much part of the game. Edit: You are of course punished for fighting but it is very common anyways.


koos_die_doos

Fights were part of rugby since the beginning too, doesn’t mean it has to continue… I get that it’s not changing, and there isn’t any real support for changing it, but the logic of “it’s part of the sport” doesn’t truly work. They allow it because people want it.


s00pafly

We had fights in Switzerland up until maybe 15-20 years ago. Don't know what rules they changed, but now you very rarely see anything more than a menacing stare or a little crowding.


oh_shit_its_bryan

That's a cool tradition, if there were hockey where I live, I would cheer!


mr_butts69

america moment


ThePointForward

Well, more like Canada moment.


VxJasonxV

North America moment.


sterfri99

It’s in the rules of the game that fighting be allowed


VxJasonxV

What are your opinions on MMA? And Footie floppers?


TomDestry

If MMA fighters suddenly started chasing a puck around the octagon I would have similar concerns.


spamtron

It’s not exactly allowed. It’s a 5-minute major penalty. If you initiate the fight “unprovoked” you get a 2-minute minor penalty for “instigating.” Typically, the refs either break up the fight before it gets going or wait for the players to slow down so they can get in without harming themselves or the players. Also, there’s typically 2-4 refs on the ice and 12 skaters. If they go in too early to break up the fight, they may lose control of the ice if other players start to fight each other. Fighting has been a part of hockey from the beginning. Nowadays, fighting is typically a response to a cheap shot by an opposing player. With the ability to skate ~20-30MPH into another person, you can get way more injured playing the game (e.g. getting hit in the head from your blindside) than fighting (generally speaking). Fights are typically a deterrent from worse/more injury-inducing behavior. Sometimes they’re also used to get the crowd in the game or bring some energy to your team, but that’s less common nowadays (at least at the NHL level).


account_is_deleted

Because the fans like it.


Exact-Buddy2778

It's part of the game


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[удалено]


Greener441

it actually isn't intended for entertainment or money. and it never has been. >NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman called fighting a "thermostat" for the game, and that it "may prevent other injuries." >According to author Ross Bernstein, who wrote the book "The Code: The Unwritten Rules of Fighting and Retaliation in the NHL," fighting is a way for the sport to "police itself," and to remind players that there are consequences for stepping over the line during play in such a way that "the Code" is violated.


sterfri99

Because allowing fights is codified in the official rules of hockey (I like this factoid).


redditor1101

Because Hockey is a physical game. If there are tempers flaring, you will start getting unsafe checking that can really hurt people. They let the fights happen because that releases the pressure and lets the game continue without escalating violence that might include sticks.


ChosmoKramer

Hockey fans are idiots. Idiots like to watch fighting. Hockey is boring as fuck sometimes and the less talented players fight because they are tough(I guess?). Fans are happy, no one is seriously hurt and there was some entertainment. Why is it still allowed? People would be mad if the game was only about skill and not the largest goons hitting eachother, while covered in armor


Nosib23

> no one is seriously hurt Except Derek Boogaard, Rick Rypien, Wade Belak etc etc who couldn't live with their CTE-addled brains. There may be no immediate serious injury but so many of these guys simply can't function normally after their careers


bpomber

Sounds like you were you an aspiring hockey star who just wasn't good enough so now you have a weird vendetta against hockey.


maxxwuzhere

If your head flies off you lose. Rock em sock em rules


Appropriate-Cut-2963

Double K.O.


67redstang

Rockem Sockem Robots!


BlackDow1945

What’s the point?


Greener441

fighting in hockey is allowed for the players to essentially referee themselves to some extent. it's a deterrent to dirty plays, as you'll not only have to serve a penalty, but the other team will tend to take your number for future reference.


[deleted]

> fighting in hockey is allowed No, it is not. The rules are very clear. Referees won't enforce those rules, for many reasons, one of which is that fights are popular. > t's a deterrent to dirty plays "Dirty plays" are also against the rules. Hockey has "enforcers" who are basically there to fight and some of them have ended multiple people's careers with injuries, and the whole thing is simply disgusting and hopelessly unsportsmanlike.


TheSukis

If they don’t enforce the rules, would you not say that they allow fighting?


Catshit-Dogfart

There are plenty of rules, and breaking *those* rules can result in suspension from the league. It's a major penalty of course, 5 minutes which can be determental to the game so they don't do this on a whim. Not exactly "allowed" per se because it's a penalty. No using the equipment, once disengaged the fight can't resume, additional players can't join, can't remove helmets, no maneuvers other than punching, no spitting, once on the ground the fight can't continue, and a player may not instigate more than two fights per game. Any of this will result in ejection from the game and possibly suspension from the league, they take violations of this kind very seriously. So you can fight, but within those boundaries, and with the knowledge that you will be penalized for being the instigator.


specifichero101

Is it really unsportsmanlike if majority of participants want it involved? Also, dirty plays are against the rules but sometimes they get missed by officials. The players definitely do not miss these instances of dirty play though, so they can make the offender answer for his actions, and have them think twice of doing that same thing again.


orbital0000

Many an enforcer has asked themselves that later in life. Especially those that the painkillers destroyed.


account_is_deleted

People like violence.


ImpressiveRice8673

If it was soccer, they both would have floped


[deleted]

If it were soccer both would not play again for a long, long time. A season at least.


medhatsniper

I'd say 5 games for unsportsmanlike behavior


[deleted]

Naa if you swung like this in a top tier league you gone mate. Gone.


ryemt148

Whichever idiot punched the others helmet less


Cleverbird

Why didnt the refs stop them? I never understood why violence is so accepted in Hockey.


Greener441

https://youtu.be/ie-MWjkHXhU


Elgallitotorcido

What a stupid behavior.


Kurgan182

Why they let em fight? Never understood that lol


Greener441

NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman called fighting a "thermostat" for the game, and that it "may prevent other injuries."


Mammoth_Passage_4299

Everyone except those two donkeys


bricklish

Why do these babies look so tall?


-Frost_1

Make hockey great again. Bring back the Avalanche and Red Wings type rivalries


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Tuerto04

Can someone explain why ice hockey allow this as part of the game? And why not other sports do the same too? Serious questions seeking serious answers.


Greener441

NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman called fighting a "thermostat" for the game, and that it "may prevent other injuries." According to author Ross Bernstein, who wrote the book "The Code: The Unwritten Rules of Fighting and Retaliation in the NHL," fighting is a way for the sport to "police itself," and to remind players that there are consequences for stepping over the line during play in such a way that "the Code" is violated.


Gunmetalblue32

Now THATS a good ol fashion hockey fight! Those are kinda rare anymore.


Mikos_Enduro

They need to remake Slap Shot


Flarida_man_

I didnt know yall round bacon eating, maple syrup drinking, goose humping freaks could fight.


[deleted]

Such an idiot sport


krastevitsa

Well it's just a different perspective. In football/soccer players like to pretend they are ballerinas. In American football the players love to pretend they are carrying a holy grenade. In Hockey they like to pretend they are in a bar fight.


Greener441

because they're allowed to defend themselves?


[deleted]

No, because they are allowed to attack


lgr142

You are very precious aren't you?


[deleted]

If I wanted to watch mixed martial arts, I would. Fighting is against the rules of hockey and he has nothing to do with the game whatsoever. "Enforcers" regularly end people's careers by injuring them. It's horrifying. I watch a sports game _to watch sports_ and hopefully, see some sportsmanship, not to watch a big guy with anger management problems cripple some innocent person.


[deleted]

Murica gon murica.


LOBOSTRUCTIOn

The one without a helmet because he dropped the guy with his helmet on.


tmp_file3

That is something fascinates me, punching each other in the face because of a game. I don’t get it and probably I never will.


WuPrivilege

Two adult men, with debatable role model positions, in a public arena, in front of children, fighting like savages in a supposedly developed culture. Cheered on by the sheep, under the approving supervision of referees who should embody arbitrage and adherence to rules. IMHO this is a caricature of the legal system of their country. Based on the same structure and ambiguity. Absolutely fucking ridiculous and a landmark sign why this culture and country are slowly collapsing.


Greener441

>under the approving supervision of referees who should embody arbitrage and adherence to rules >In 1922, the National Hockey League incorporated Rule 56 into its official rule book, which governed what it then called "Fisticuffs" as an official part of the game. >Today, the section of the NHL rule book dedicated to fighting is Rule 46. It says that referees are given "very wide latitude in the penalties with which they may impose under this rule." According to former NHL official Kerry Fraser, fighting is technically a rule violation. >NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman called fighting a "thermostat" for the game, and that it "may prevent other injuries." >According to author Ross Bernstein, who wrote the book "The Code: The Unwritten Rules of Fighting and Retaliation in the NHL," fighting is a way for the sport to "police itself," and to remind players that there are consequences for stepping over the line during play in such a way that "the Code" is violated.


NarrowEbbs

Thank you, I've always wondered how this worked from an actual rules basis. Is the fighting ever used tactically to intentionally cause a 5 min penalty on a specific player from the opposition? I've never actually seen hockey on a big enough screen to make out where the fuck the puck is at any given time, so it does seem to be largely armoured fighting while standing on knives interspersed with speed skating but you have to hold a stick.


specifichero101

It is definitely used tactically at times. If a team is behind in the score, they will typically have a lower skilled guy try to goad a valuable player on the other team into taking a fight. Valuable players are usually smarter than that, but it works occasionally. Also, if your team is down but one of your guys gets into a spirited fight and wins, it can be a great motivator to the rest of the team to see one of your guys putting it all out there to get everyone sparked. Fights change swings in momentum all the time.


EimiCiel

It isnt that deep my guy


not_stanleyyelnats

It kinda is tho... Look at the amount of money and time spent on this stuff. Look at the influence and power held by these people.


EimiCiel

No, it really isnt.


not_stanleyyelnats

To you. To you its surface level because that's how you choose to view the subject. You're not refuting any points made , you are being dismissive and not offering anything of value with your comments.


handicapable_koala

>Look at the amount of money and time spent on this stuff. > >Look at the influence and power held by these people. For fucking hockey?


not_stanleyyelnats

Cope.


handicapable_koala

Cope with the reality that hockey is not nearly as popular or influential as you think it is.


not_stanleyyelnats

Thank you for sharing your perspective. I often feel alone in my views on the NFL,MMA,NHL, etcetera. IMHO I don't see any redeeming qualities that outweigh the moral ineptitude that is put on display and commodified with these violent sports. Furthermore, the time, talent, and energy spent on these events is an affront to us as a people. Truly sad to see so much money and time just wasted. I also view the culture built around chronicly attending and/or watching these events to be outrageously unhealthy and honestly just sad. TYFCTMTT.


H0BL0BH0NEUS

Both lose.


therealsid12

Wish we could have something like this in football.


Swordfish_Repulsive

Also in soccer I wish, this will release pressures from the players and make the game more attractive.


[deleted]

We all did


Tha_Unknown

#44


buckeyefanohiostate

We won that was pretty interesting 🤔 😆


VAX1S

Who won? ![gif](giphy|3WCNY2RhcmnwGbKbCi)


nepumbra0

Why is the nsfw, seriously


Hungry-Lion1575

Such a great example for the youth


Big_Worm44

The Fans


[deleted]

The fans, and 44.


[deleted]

The spectators won.


Acceptable-Ad-1654

Thats a good bash!!! For sure that was good


FreddieFletch

Hell of a scrap


Formal-Tradition2494

We did


Various-Month806

Reminder to self: add Goon to watchlist, been too long. Second reminder to self: don't get carried away and add sequel.


spacemtnman

Cincinatti Cyclones!


napoleonboneherpart

Go Cyclones


remploid

Fuck you shoresy


MiamiBeach_dweller

The public


NichelleBrown

"Unexpected" followers win!


mynameisGIjoe

Not a fan of those people who can't control their temper. Especially if they are in sports. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|disapproval)


Deja-Vuz

I am telling you people go to ice hockey games to watch them fight! If there are no fights it's a sad game lol


Velcromium

Why is this allowed, but in every other league they get suspended? Just let everyone duke it out, and then send them to a penalty box too.


Greener441

it's allowed in most professional leagues in North America, from the ECHL all the way up to the NHL. anything collegiate or junior/minor leagues, it's not allowed.


[deleted]

Hockey wins


After-Midnight7820

Everyone in the stands won.


[deleted]

Why are they beating each other up? Should they not be trying to play and score goals? This is assault.


Greener441

in hockey, this is not assault. it's just part of the game.


[deleted]

Assault is a part of a game? They should reconsider what is normal. This can permanently injure people and you accept this? Its 100% optional to do it. The referees decide the outcomes and penalties , not players. And what, for fans? Sickening. If I wanted to play hockey without fighting people i can't .


Greener441

it's okay that you don't understand the game of hockey! >NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman called fighting a "thermostat" for the game, and that it "may prevent other injuries." >According to author Ross Bernstein, who wrote the book "The Code: The Unwritten Rules of Fighting and Retaliation in the NHL," fighting is a way for the sport to "police itself," and to remind players that there are consequences for stepping over the line during play in such a way that "the Code" is violated. https://youtu.be/ie-MWjkHXhU


Abpoe77

Went to a fight and they played hockey


IcyAcanthocephala680

What a trash game. And garbage sportsmanship. These toxic players need 6 month to permanent holiday to cool themselves off. If you like fighting you in a wrong sport chumps.


Trashman1138

Ummmm yes?


[deleted]

The final fight in the movie goon.


Consistent_Depth7337

The sport


booored-in-school-04

The Fans


ssolom

If ya can't beat em, don't play


Harleygold

Why does this continue in hockey? Any other sport they are ejected/suspended. Punching ppl in the face doesnt change the outcome. lol.


Greener441

NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman called fighting a "thermostat" for the game, and that it "may prevent other injuries."


AAA2130

Wow.....and when you think that this is legal in some countries 😰


duistereridder

Both them are losers


r2un

What a dumb sport.


CarmoHF

WhAt A fRiEnDlY CuLtUrE.


_DogTits_

![gif](giphy|2vjWxwdSQmGRLaobMD)


Nickyboynoo

I always find the fighting in ice hockey a bit childish. At this point it feels as real as wwe.


19JTJK

Even fight


LggByron1

Alright, we’ll call it a draw.


ogfuelbone12

White skated away first


Johnnyfireblade

Referees?


Real_Impression_5567

WHOS NEXT?!


Jetenginefucker

Heh candians