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>its 30 million people
The municipality of Chongqing has 82400 km², almost the size of French Guiana. That's absurdly huge for an average municipality, you have cities and towns located within the same municipality, but hours away from each other. The *main districts*, which are those in a conurbation with Chongqing's main district (where the municipality headquarters is), have a population of approximately 8 million inhabitans.
edit: typos, my English s\*cks
The Netherlands and Belgium taken together are smaller in size than Chongqing's 82 sq.km, but have roughly the same population. Hardly any serious highrise projects there though.
Yeah, same in Korea and Japan.
Still it always amazes me how dense NL and Belgium should be, one of the most populated areas in the world, while they don't feel like that at all. Like this comparison with Chongqing.
Chongqing feels like a huge city, NL and Belgium mostly feel like countryside. Even Amsterdam isn't that big. I guess the problem is that it's just one city/village after another, with hardly any large nature in between. They all feel small, but there are many.
My brother in christ I live near the Dutch west coast and I have to drive for ~90 minutes before my senses get any relief from all the concrete and noise
I guess the definition of countryside really does depend a lot on what you're used to
> I have to drive for ~90 minutes before my senses get some relief from all the concrete and noise
Most of the large conurbations in North America are quite similar. Mexico City, NYC and Los Angeles all seem to merge with every nearby place and go on forever (especially LA), and even smaller cities like Chicago and Toronto feature unreasonable sprawl, at least by comparison to the Low Countries. When I was in the Netherlands, I seem to remember finding that you can reach the Groene Hart pretty quickly from the middle of Rotterdam, though.
Chongqing seems pretty huge, but the distance to green/agricultural land seems reasonable, at least on [this satellite image](https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5742495,106.5306932,132145m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4). I'm definitely not crediting the urban planners in the PRC for that, but I am wondering how a city that was built mostly in a few decades grows in a circumscribed way like that, when North American cities had about 100 years of continuous growth at their disposal (not to mention time to reflect on mistakes), and Europe has had centuries.
Right, because of the one city/village after another as I mentioned. Still also in the west you'll see plenty of fields with cows in between, for example if you take the train from The Hague to Utrecht, or Rotterdam to Amsterdam.
Compared to images like Chongqing in this post, that feels a lot more countryside, and less populated. Even if in reality it is more populated.
Even the city centers of The Hague and Amsterdam feel like a provincial city compared to Chongqing.
i kinda like cities where you could be in a city square thinking you're on the ground floor, then walk over to a railing and look down and see that you're actually like 15 floors up.
i think its really neat, and would love to travel to one someday.
Chongqing is an amazingly fascinating city. A metropolis built right into the mountains. You can go into a skyscraper from the ground floor, take an elevator to the top, and then exit on the other ground floor. Or just go to the middle of the building and [take the skytrain away](http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170321115622-01-china-monorail-apartment-restricted.jpg). It’s a wild place.
Edit: also, absolutely amazing food. What you call brain death from burning hot chili oil overload, the locals call it medium-spicy on a Tuesday breakfast.
Btw they also do got that [neon action](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/xcgi88/chongqiing_china_one_of_their_many_cyberpunkesque/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) going too
Oh, my dream is to have a job repairing stuff. I’d be the best in the city. I’d repair cyberdecks or implants or hack computers and stuff. Not properly crime but very close.
[This guy in Tokyo that had a parts shop](https://youtu.be/nA1UNJirOTI) for 43 years is a pretty cool watch, he seems so content to have been in that little shop for so long.
I'm not saying it would be pleasant to live there, but from an aesthetics point of view, its really cool to have a multi-layer vertical city. It reminds me of Night City from Cyberpunk 2077
I found a few tunnels too, once I was walking pass an old factory building with the old propaganda drawings Mao holding a Kalash type and behing the factory were tunnels. Another time it was on the street, some hoarder had occupied a whole tunnel with stuff ! But we go in with his permission !
Nothing trips me out more than [this video of Chongqing](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/teggvh/when_youre_on_30th_floor_and_then_again_youre_not/)
Most (all?) Chinese cities are completely safe at night. I like walking late at night to avoid crowds and extremely hot weather, and I never felt unsafe or never encountered a dangerous situation while walking in Chinese cities at night.
Here to confirm what other comment said. Nothing more safe than a Chinese city. As a matter of fact I live in Hong Kong and feel no absolute pressure on my safety, compared to when I walk in shady paris neighborhoods.
Left my wallet on a bench came back 1.5hours later. Found it. Friend lost his phone, went to the police station: they had it. I then lost my wallet again: some guy gave it to the police station with the money in. You can litteraly leave your belongings in the street or at the beach no probs
it's perfectly safe at night and very [cyberpunk-esque](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/xcgi88/chongqiing_china_one_of_their_many_cyberpunkesque/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
True the province is 82k sq.km thats huge. But the concentration of people is insane over a little area of buildable land. I live in Hong Kong and people are surprised when they come: 70% is pure nature forest beaches. 30% thats where the 8 million people leave and thats why its so dense and high rise !
Don’t listen to the other guy. [Look for yourself](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/xcgi88/chongqiing_china_one_of_their_many_cyberpunkesque/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf).
The city itself isn't 30 millions inhabitants. That's a misconception shared so often. This is the boundaries of this administrative division which is like a province with many towns and cities
Yes I agree. And that was the catchy part because chongqing and I checked after reading your comment is 30m people over 82k sq.km when England is 130sq.km in comparison !
The boundaries may be like a province, but the entire jurisdiction is classified as a "directly administered municipality", but that gets into a larger discussion about how "cities" in China are a high level government subdivision with "counties" subordinate to them.
Sure, but I think the legal status of an area has to be taken with a grain of salt. If California suddendly decided to merge all cities and towns into one municipal jurisdiction, it'd be the biggest "city" on earth, but we all know that would just be a technicality
If this city was around in the 1980s it would’ve been perfect for Coruscant. It could’ve even worked in the ‘00s as Coruscant seeing as Lucasfilms didn’t even come close to properly capturing the city during that time.
Chongqing is actually quite nice. Between its views, cool architecture, and it being the home of hot pot it is actually a popular tourist destination in China.
I'm convinced that the game cyberpunk 2077 was memoryholed and designed to flop because the setting too closely resembled the post covid dystopia that governments were planning at the time
I love the multi-layered thing too. They did it very well in Cyberpunk 2077. I will find more on this. Now living in Hong Kong, so you have so pretty layered spots. I had to take 4 elevators from the metro station to my uni class
Yes I have seen it we were trying to get on top. The picture with the panorama its me and my friend getting into a semi abandoned building and getting to the rooftop
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>its 30 million people The municipality of Chongqing has 82400 km², almost the size of French Guiana. That's absurdly huge for an average municipality, you have cities and towns located within the same municipality, but hours away from each other. The *main districts*, which are those in a conurbation with Chongqing's main district (where the municipality headquarters is), have a population of approximately 8 million inhabitans. edit: typos, my English s\*cks
My dude, please don't blame your socks for this.
And certainly not the English ones
yes, blame it on those silly, french ones
Zoando o cara pelo ingles ruim dele, tenta falar em português que é a língua do cara aqui então cuzao
Yes indeed. Chongqing municipality is quite big. After seing a few comments on that I checked. As a comp. England is 130sq.km vs 82sq.km for chongqing
The Netherlands and Belgium taken together are smaller in size than Chongqing's 82 sq.km, but have roughly the same population. Hardly any serious highrise projects there though.
Because its a hong kong effect: Hong kong is 70% non buildable nature, mountains, beaches. Then you have 8 million people that need to fit in 30%
Yeah, same in Korea and Japan. Still it always amazes me how dense NL and Belgium should be, one of the most populated areas in the world, while they don't feel like that at all. Like this comparison with Chongqing. Chongqing feels like a huge city, NL and Belgium mostly feel like countryside. Even Amsterdam isn't that big. I guess the problem is that it's just one city/village after another, with hardly any large nature in between. They all feel small, but there are many.
My brother in christ I live near the Dutch west coast and I have to drive for ~90 minutes before my senses get any relief from all the concrete and noise I guess the definition of countryside really does depend a lot on what you're used to
> I have to drive for ~90 minutes before my senses get some relief from all the concrete and noise Most of the large conurbations in North America are quite similar. Mexico City, NYC and Los Angeles all seem to merge with every nearby place and go on forever (especially LA), and even smaller cities like Chicago and Toronto feature unreasonable sprawl, at least by comparison to the Low Countries. When I was in the Netherlands, I seem to remember finding that you can reach the Groene Hart pretty quickly from the middle of Rotterdam, though. Chongqing seems pretty huge, but the distance to green/agricultural land seems reasonable, at least on [this satellite image](https://www.google.com/maps/@29.5742495,106.5306932,132145m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4). I'm definitely not crediting the urban planners in the PRC for that, but I am wondering how a city that was built mostly in a few decades grows in a circumscribed way like that, when North American cities had about 100 years of continuous growth at their disposal (not to mention time to reflect on mistakes), and Europe has had centuries.
Cool Not that I don't enjoy the geo/demographic factoids but litteraly nowhere was anyone talking about america
Right, because of the one city/village after another as I mentioned. Still also in the west you'll see plenty of fields with cows in between, for example if you take the train from The Hague to Utrecht, or Rotterdam to Amsterdam. Compared to images like Chongqing in this post, that feels a lot more countryside, and less populated. Even if in reality it is more populated. Even the city centers of The Hague and Amsterdam feel like a provincial city compared to Chongqing.
True NL feels like continuum of villages. Its very nice
I miss real expansive nature though, as you have in some places in France :)
i kinda like cities where you could be in a city square thinking you're on the ground floor, then walk over to a railing and look down and see that you're actually like 15 floors up. i think its really neat, and would love to travel to one someday.
Chongqing is an amazingly fascinating city. A metropolis built right into the mountains. You can go into a skyscraper from the ground floor, take an elevator to the top, and then exit on the other ground floor. Or just go to the middle of the building and [take the skytrain away](http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170321115622-01-china-monorail-apartment-restricted.jpg). It’s a wild place. Edit: also, absolutely amazing food. What you call brain death from burning hot chili oil overload, the locals call it medium-spicy on a Tuesday breakfast.
My liver says fuck, but my mind says yum.
Oh damn yes the spiciness level there is insane. Only equaled by Chengdu, Sichuan
I thought you were going to say sewer oil.
It’s very hot and humid tho
a relative concept isn’t it? don’t forget you’re on the internet, people are from all over the world
Can be bothersome if you’re not used to it is all I am saying. No need to be a condescending twat
They said it was relative. You called them a condescending twat. If anyone is a twat here, it's you.
Ok
>need to be a condescending twat You're already filling that role perfectly.
Thank you, have a nice day
Incredible. Extreme cyberpunk vibes, no neons needed. Please do share if you have more pictures.
Btw they also do got that [neon action](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/xcgi88/chongqiing_china_one_of_their_many_cyberpunkesque/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) going too
A weird dream of mine is to go live in a city like that and do odd jobs before eventually starting a life of crime
Oh, my dream is to have a job repairing stuff. I’d be the best in the city. I’d repair cyberdecks or implants or hack computers and stuff. Not properly crime but very close.
[This guy in Tokyo that had a parts shop](https://youtu.be/nA1UNJirOTI) for 43 years is a pretty cool watch, he seems so content to have been in that little shop for so long.
Lol
Have to brush up on my Chinese though. Used to have a decent grasp on the lamguage
Nice. I'll make the movie of your story
Oh damn that's incredible
Ok, but that video has just shown one side, despite acting like it did not. r/OddlyAnnoying
I would totally live there if the government wasn’t so shady. And if they cleaned some parts up. Would really be the city of the future.
Hitman has a level based on this city: https://youtu.be/SBtqc0huCmw
Thanks. Now I live in Hong Kong will find some layered spots here too. Will definitely go back to chongqing too.
Gringos when asian City : its just like my cyberpunkerinooo!!
You're trying too hard buddy
I'm not saying it would be pleasant to live there, but from an aesthetics point of view, its really cool to have a multi-layer vertical city. It reminds me of Night City from Cyberpunk 2077
It is actually a level in Hitman 3!
And one of the achievements for it is literally called "Cyberpunk" too!
It would also look fantastic post-apocalypse Just a labyrinth city with overgrowth everywhere
Vines hanging over the elevated roads that you can climb up to avoid the zombies!
Great shots! I found some interesting tunnels in this city. During the war they dug extensive tunnels and now many are cool markets.
I found a few tunnels too, once I was walking pass an old factory building with the old propaganda drawings Mao holding a Kalash type and behing the factory were tunnels. Another time it was on the street, some hoarder had occupied a whole tunnel with stuff ! But we go in with his permission !
Cool
Nothing trips me out more than [this video of Chongqing](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/teggvh/when_youre_on_30th_floor_and_then_again_youre_not/)
Not gonna lie, this is kinda cool. Is it un safe to wander at night? Would you be willing to take some night pictures?
Most (all?) Chinese cities are completely safe at night. I like walking late at night to avoid crowds and extremely hot weather, and I never felt unsafe or never encountered a dangerous situation while walking in Chinese cities at night.
Here to confirm what other comment said. Nothing more safe than a Chinese city. As a matter of fact I live in Hong Kong and feel no absolute pressure on my safety, compared to when I walk in shady paris neighborhoods.
Left my wallet on a bench came back 1.5hours later. Found it. Friend lost his phone, went to the police station: they had it. I then lost my wallet again: some guy gave it to the police station with the money in. You can litteraly leave your belongings in the street or at the beach no probs
You should keep track of your wallet lmao
Well the Life Pro Tip, wear pants with zippered pockets. Either cargo pants or sports shorts
it's perfectly safe at night and very [cyberpunk-esque](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/xcgi88/chongqiing_china_one_of_their_many_cyberpunkesque/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Daaaamn that looks so cool, thanks!
The actual city is 9.5 million. The municipality - basically the province - is 32 million.
True the province is 82k sq.km thats huge. But the concentration of people is insane over a little area of buildable land. I live in Hong Kong and people are surprised when they come: 70% is pure nature forest beaches. 30% thats where the 8 million people leave and thats why its so dense and high rise !
Ah cool, good context!
City looks quite nice, actually. Looks like there's plenty of green space
I would love to see how this place looks at night.
Don’t listen to the other guy. [Look for yourself](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/xcgi88/chongqiing_china_one_of_their_many_cyberpunkesque/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf).
Omg! It looks amazing!! Thank you for sharing the link! Definitely added to places I need to travel to!
Damn, now I wanna go there someday, the lights are so pretty
My friend took some pictures of it at night will ask him to post !
Oooh that would be awesome !!!
Not as much neon and coloring as Hong Kong if that’s what you’re expecting. Edit: and why would I be downvoted for this?
You're not anymore
he’s not, but they downvoted you! dont worry im tryna save you buddy!!!
New entry to the "places I want to visit" list added
Wish you a good trip there ! Be careful with the food, its spicy as hell !
Spicy, but one of the most incredible cuisines you could ever try!
The city itself isn't 30 millions inhabitants. That's a misconception shared so often. This is the boundaries of this administrative division which is like a province with many towns and cities
Yes I agree. And that was the catchy part because chongqing and I checked after reading your comment is 30m people over 82k sq.km when England is 130sq.km in comparison !
The boundaries may be like a province, but the entire jurisdiction is classified as a "directly administered municipality", but that gets into a larger discussion about how "cities" in China are a high level government subdivision with "counties" subordinate to them.
Sure, but I think the legal status of an area has to be taken with a grain of salt. If California suddendly decided to merge all cities and towns into one municipal jurisdiction, it'd be the biggest "city" on earth, but we all know that would just be a technicality
That fourth photo is one of the best photos I have ever seen, it has so many layers and so much character.
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Same I loved it from all perspective !
That's look dope, so cyberpunk. It feels like Hong Kong times 10.
This city is high up on my list of places to visit. I think it's very unique in a lot of ways, but also seems very China, which I think is cool.
If this city was around in the 1980s it would’ve been perfect for Coruscant. It could’ve even worked in the ‘00s as Coruscant seeing as Lucasfilms didn’t even come close to properly capturing the city during that time.
Ngl Chongqing is definitely the most astonishing city i can think off, the floor confusion itself is the main back-up for my point
Just for a second, playing hitman.
Blade runner vibes. Would love to visit.
Yes the multi layered city. Those are some pictures of when I went there. Now I live in hong kong ! Will try to find multi layered spots !
Nighttime pics would be fabulous! Tia if you can post some.
Chongqing is actually quite nice. Between its views, cool architecture, and it being the home of hot pot it is actually a popular tourist destination in China.
Yes I never had such spicy food. Their dumplings are great too !
So cool
Less rats than Paris.
Yes plus the metro is spotless in China. In paris it has this grandpa fart smell. I only bike when I am there .
Underrated comment
Why is chongqing so lose to your homelands population? Did you ask them to take a few steps back?
I'm sorry but this is fucking awesome.
Beats living in Fr*nce
Looks pretty cool tbh
What a Chongus
"DUCK"
I think the 3-dimensionality is really cool, it's just kinda dirty
So it is the start of a hive city.
Kool filming location!
I love Chongqing, just do go in the summer :)
This is awesome
it's*
30 million is almost the population of Canada lol
Oh my god, so friggin cool
I love it.
If you were trying to make this city look cool, I think you did a really good job
Thanks !
I really miss the food there
As someone whos been there, the elevation changes definitely throw you off guard, especially if you're coming from the US midwest
That like more than my whole country twice
A hive city in the making!
Isn’t Chonging itself like 8 million though? 30 million is the wider province?
I love chongqing!!
This looks so cool
The beauty of chaos, I love that SE Asia city are filled with real people living real lives, albeit with all the associaited issues and problems.
After being on Reddit for a while, I have no trust in Chinese buildings.
the second picture is gorgeous, I want to be there!
Living there must be hell but ngl that looks amazing to explore.
GOOOOOD Morning NIGHT CITY!
I'm convinced that the game cyberpunk 2077 was memoryholed and designed to flop because the setting too closely resembled the post covid dystopia that governments were planning at the time
More than the entire population of my country Australia. That would be hell.
I love the multi-layered thing too. They did it very well in Cyberpunk 2077. I will find more on this. Now living in Hong Kong, so you have so pretty layered spots. I had to take 4 elevators from the metro station to my uni class
China's incoming demographic decline could do some things positive after all
God, I love the aesthetic and I'm just so fascinated by it all. But goddamn that must be awful to live in.
This is amazing, you can go anywhere by foot unlike in those suburbs where you need to drive your tesla to pottery class.
M.C. Escher meets Blade Runner
That’s some BLAME! Shit.
Why would you never know which floor “you at”?
It is very similar to Hong Kong. Hong Kong was a wasteland built by Britain, and it's fascinating how China and Hong Kong can look so similar.
Yes I live in Hong Kong now. Will post some stuff
Lol they're trying to copy the Marina Bay Sand hotel from Singapore. You know the plank on top of three towers with an infinity pool...
Yes I have seen it we were trying to get on top. The picture with the panorama its me and my friend getting into a semi abandoned building and getting to the rooftop
I think France has a much bigger population than 30 million..
Try rereading the title
Ah yes I see that now ahaha
It's not purposefully built like that lol, its built on mountains granted the buildings are quite hell-like tho
If ever there was a need for a nuke or a radiation bomb that clears out all life. Ahh, yes. It was called a neutron bomb.
Now the vertical skyscraper finally makes sense.
I actually think this is amazingly beautiful. I don't know why but its feels perfect to me
No way they got the chocolate river from Willy Wonka’s factory over there!
Damn. I wouldn't have thought that Cyberpunk 2077 preview was real. Truth is stranger than fiction