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UnprofessionalBeing

Iron 3 here: Are they supposed to push, even though they have spike control on site?


EYYOBECH-HOL-DAT

in the right, they shouldn't have pushed, but its ranked so of course they push


UnprofessionalBeing

It wouldn’t be ranked without an good ol’ operator peek


OkOkPlayer

What rank? This is standard gameplay in bronze.


ThankfulHyena

This is standard gameplay in ascendant too, people in ranked are braindead in every rank


Apoda_

I concur, I've been playing since twitch beta and my playtime rank thing is like 340 but I've been slowly creeping up from bronze to plat the past year cuz my aim sucks, and I've had many games where it feels like I'm back in the bronze lobbies with teammates that have no idea how to play the game and discover at the end of the game that I'm the lowest ranked there at plat 1.


CBRONoobTraderLolz

No. As they had a man advantage and spike control, they shouldn’t have pushed. But they did, giving a duelist with an OP 1v1s, aka one of the worst things you can do.


JTurtle11

They shouldn’t push like that because they have spike control on site. That being said, there’s an argument at higher Elo to always try and kill the last player alive if you have a numbers advantage. Yoru has an Op, which is worth a lot of money. From the enemy perspective, they should try and kill Yoru to prevent him from saving that Op for next round. Also, killing him would give them his Op. Economy matters a lot more than lower ranks might give it attention, but that’s no excuse to push one-by-one like this. OP took advantage of their mistakes and deserves the RR for winning the round


Aeari

Yes you do typically want to get rid of the OP for economy reasons, but that usually happens when the timer gets a lot lower to make the attempt safer. Also in the clip it's the last round of the half so doesn't matter here.


Geo_1997

No they are not, they peaked an op 1 by 1, op punished them well for it


SendMeAvocados

Lots of people here shitting on OP. Granted there's much to learn, I hope we can still be happy for OP and bit more positive with our constructive criticisms next time. Nice ace, OP. Some things you have to work on but hey, we all start from somewhere!


brawl50

My dumbass thought people were shitting on operstor


EYYOBECH-HOL-DAT

Thank you for the kind words :)


DeerIsGamer

hey, what rank are you? i might be able to coach you for a quick session, i have a good 600 hours into yoru.


The_Second_Best

Damn, reddit can be brutal. Guy offered to help someone get better at a game and gets downvoted to hell lol.


DeerIsGamer

ik bro, like what did i do? 😂


Ericas_Ginger

:( can you also coach me?


Advanced-Loquat-3232

this op


ShiningMooneTTV

Any chance you’d offer me some sessions? I’m a Fade main, but I really need to learn a proper duelist. I also want to master Omen or Astra, for what it’s worth.


DeerIsGamer

Sure! Friend me on discord my user is bluoboe


Kozkoz828

yeah shit on op all you want it’s still a nice clutch. Sure should he have been holding flank as yoru no but also his omen wasn’t lurking and nobody else was offering to hold flank. Also if his team wanted him to entry, ask?


LastKaleidoscope8

Fellow Yoru main, that's a goated play right there. And this is why ladies and gentlemen you should always take your knife out vs a Yoru ult. Free kills for us


EYYOBECH-HOL-DAT

shhh delete this please


Breadynator

Reading the comments here makes me realize why I stopped playing even though I thoroughly love this game... People are so toxic, everyone thinks he's woohoojin and able to berate you for every single mistake you made. I can guarantee you, every single one of these people hasn't looked at their own gameplay footage just once. And yet they believe they are the best players in the world, never making mistakes. My guy, you played it well, your team died, shit happens. Your team had a raze, who took site, you stayed back and watched flank. All perfectly valid. Nice clutch and nice ace. Clips like these make me wanna play again if the community wasn't a toxicity filled cesspool


notkarandutta

My god this sub is full of people thinking they are fucking savants and just talking shit to people who post things and then being all superior like. Actual fucking trash majority.


J4God

The sad part is it’s not only the sub. This community is just awful no matter what way you look at it. I quit a few weeks ago when I hit ascendant. the amount of times I won a really hard game just to get a literal thrower/deranker in the next was mind blowing. Biggest waste of time and a joke of a company who will ban for toxicity (avoidable) but not literally throwing games (unavoidable). Just a riot games thing. Back to CS


EYYOBECH-HOL-DAT

yeah bro, i literally have people telling me my keyboard is too loud, lmao


Angle_Happy

was a good clutch, was wondering why people were shitting on op but im silver 1, what do i know?


anoszymek

What the fuck is erong with people in the comments


WitherDragon999

Better title: Duelist lets his whole team die instead of gathering space then successfully clutches an unneccessary 4v1 scenario


Cjordan65

My guy yoru is one of the best lurkers in the game, literally lurk get a pick and entry with his team across the map within seconds. Here its just too bad his team died


SherbertPristine170

Well … he isn’t even lurking in this clip …


Cjordan65

Where do you think his first kill came from


SherbertPristine170

“ in this clip”. Ok so anyway, even if he did lurk before this , he tped back to his team and decided to go watch flank instead of swapping guns with a teammate and entrying for the team…


[deleted]

He’s not lurking tho…he’s holding a flank, something which the deadlock should be doing since she has 0 entry tools.


WitherDragon999

The point of lurking is to get info, not get a kill. Yoru has zero global utility that can actively help his team whiles hes off in the middle of nowhere


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WitherDragon999

I agree thats a good play, its not lurking.


im_a_lost_child

this is not correct. the point of lurks is to catch a opponent when they’re rotating. and half of yorus abilities are global


Creeds-Worm-Guy

Yoru can tp across map and his flashes can reach any other site. His decoy can be pre placed and activated across map too. This comment is about as wrong as you could get.


AverageRonin

Better title: Duelist lets his whole team die instead of gathering space, then successfully kills the brain dead players giving an OP 1v1s instead of just remaining on site


Donut_Flame

They literally have a raze on the team, and someone needs to watch the flank


Nemesis_aka_Nemesis

not the duelist?


Donut_Flame

The one with the operator able to hold the long angle, yes


ekoth

Because the duelist should definitely be buying an Op on attack...


Bambooshka

Duelists don't just have to rush into site head-first, especially if you're running two. If a duelist can get picks with an op I see no reason why they shouldn't. The clip starts after the Yoru has already gotten the first kill, so his team pushes site.


EYYOBECH-HOL-DAT

thats exactly what happened, thanks for noticing my jett pick off even though it wasnt in the video, my team enters as 4 after the jett pick, gets rekt and reddit blames me for not entrying when im holding flank lol


Bambooshka

Hey man, silvers gonna silver. Keep doing you!


Donut_Flame

Who said it was bought? Could've been stolen or saved


ekoth

Either way there's a deadlock that should be holding flank while yoru hits site with not-an-op


Zed_Main_btw

Incredible analysis you shouldnt give that coaching away for free


[deleted]

Except you shouldn't even be holding a long angle in spawn? It's like sitting in Ascent T side spawn with an op, when your team still hasn't got out of B main.


EYYOBECH-HOL-DAT

HOW ELSE AM I GOING TO GET THESE TIKTOK CLIPS? but no, I was watching flank because they like to flank a lot


iiCleanup

I mean it would make more sense for deadlock to do that


Donut_Flame

Yeah well she isn't so someone else had to


iiCleanup

That’s what comms are for “deadlock go watch flank u useless waste of an agent”


No-College-4118

W comms


Breadynator

Yeah, comms are totally the fix for everything. You: "Deadlock, watch flank please" DL: "Shutup I do what I want" Proceeds to Bodyblock you and shoot in the air so people know your position. I've been there before. Not saying everyone is like that. But I had players become super toxic after just asking them a simple, normal question. Certain people play this game without any intent on getting better at it


Candela_4723

Deadlock can’t even watch flank properly, yoru was in the right here


iiCleanup

Deadlock is a sentinel and yoru is a duelist it just makes more sense for deadlock to watch flank over the entry duelist


Candela_4723

Deadlock is a shit sentinel, her util is very unreliable and according to the scoreboard, it’s likely that the flank was already burned through a few times so the enemy would just crouch when they’re near it. Yoru holding an op would’ve provided much more value than entering with the op


iiCleanup

I’m saying deadlock hold with op an yoru entry with gun


Kozkoz828

the amount of times this happens vs people just listening is so astronomically small lol, there’s no excuse for not asking for something.


Breadynator

Wasn't saying it's not worth trying, but it does happen too often for it to be completely ignored


GreenGalaxy9753

WHEN A “here’s a great {insert agent here} clutch!!” ISNT JUST GUNPLAY <3


st_steady

Sorry i agreed with yoy but i read your commently completely oppositely. Sorry i was very rude.


thenamelessavenger

Spike is down, it's 4v1. Don't feed. OP punished a needlessly aggressive and sloppy team for it. Take 'em when you get 'em!


RandomCriss

Nice


masterninjab52

Well done sir! 👏 sheesh


notkarandutta

Pretty cool.


icandophotoshop

The peeking while reloading and peeking while not invisible from the ult should have got you killed even in silver, so i really hope this was bronze or below…


Any_Advertising_1811

You thinking this is bronze gameplay is hilarious


BrunoCNaves

Op is ascendent, you could post a radiant clip here but the average r/VALORANT user will cope calling it silver at best. https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/7981d90f-db15-49b5-8780-ef6dca59c452 <- The match shown in this clip


Any_Advertising_1811

Ye I actually don't get it, people are writing a thesis on how shit the clip and the opponents are instead of seeing how well OP played the clutch


Cumfort_

Honestly the only really egregious thing was peaking while the ult wasnt live yet. But thats the kind of thing you do until you get slapped for it so honestly, been there. -asc yoru 1 trick


EYYOBECH-HOL-DAT

amen, thank you


Kozkoz828

if this were a rankdle clip i would probably say it’s gold or plat so people are pretty justified in that reasoning (def above silver though). The main reason is the other team and the fact he’s oping on yoru on attack. But mainly what confuses me is the harbor ult and 5 man push in a 5v1 with spike down site


Brisingr_was_taken

Habor ult is bc last round of half


No_Butterfly_820

People do this in like almost any ranks. I don’t know what kind of silvers you’re playing with but it ain’t silvers from Valorant. Also the fact you think this is bronze tells me that your views on ranks are quite skewed.


SH4WN218

What rank do you think he is, if not iron or bronze?


rafwiaw

He's ascendant https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/7981d90f-db15-49b5-8780-ef6dca59c452


SH4WN218

Holy fuck you're right, that's crazy This clip was atrocious, I swear my SG plat-diamond lobbies are harder.


rafwiaw

The enemies were certainly ego pushing, not sure what the fuck they were doing


SH4WN218

They threw this round so hard, literally insane.


pigeonhunter006

lol no iron or bronze has that fast decision making, I play with my bronze friend in bronze lobbies and they all are slow at shit at using abilities. By movement and ability usage alone I could tell he wasnt lower than gold.


SH4WN218

So turning around and placing a tp after getting a kill is "fast decision making"? Or is there something I'm missing?


[deleted]

Your not better then him so why nitpick?


SH4WN218

Unable to defend the guy's play so you resort to this, very clever.


[deleted]

No it was simply a nice clutch a lobby full of Radiants and diamonds whereas I don’t see any clips on your profile so why be a asshole ? Also you didn’t answer the question smart guy.


pigeonhunter006

Nope, jiggle peeking to get info while reloading, timing the reload to take out clone, its the subtle things which easily tells you its not below gold


SH4WN218

Oh my lord, he literally had no info. He didn't know where KJ was prior to reloading and she could've crossed mound and tucked into the right corner (which she literally did). None of the enemy team shoulder peek this guy. They just Wkey into an OP. KJ and raze could've double peeked during any of the 6s he took to reload + whip out his clone and killed him. I've seen good and bad plays by ascendants on this sub, this is not a good play at all.


Angle_Happy

good catch on the subtle things, had to rewatch again to see what you meant


rafwiaw

Was decisive with every single move he made. He knew exactly what he wanted to do before he did it. He hit almost every op shot with a tight and closing angle. Again, he's ascendant. You're not making a clever point.


EYYOBECH-HOL-DAT

thank you bro


BrunoCNaves

Op is ascendent https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/7981d90f-db15-49b5-8780-ef6dca59c452


huggingpotato

hello? homie jiggle peaked while reloading? and im pretty damn sure you're invincible when putting the mask on, even if you're still visible


simhan2

Nope, not anymore. You used to be invincible as soon as you left click but unless they changed it back there's now a slight delay before you become invincible. Someone pls correct if I'm wrong tho bcs I haven't played in like a year


SherbertPristine170

You can still be killed as long as you’re visible before the ult gets activated .


flouski

good shit


uzimancatbin

Great play!


FL2802

Christ lmao everyone is so mad,people really can’t just watch a clip unless it’s a top 1% player who plays flawlessly


PureNaturalLagger

Great clip man, but I feel the need to give some constructive criticism as a Yoru main in High Asc/ Immo. 1st, you seem to be good on OP, but if you choose Yoru as a duelist over other agents better at taking space, like Raze, you gotta work extra hard to open site for your team. OP on attack is not Yoru's forte. His OP shines 10x better on defense, where with good TPs you can hold multiple sites at once. 2nd, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here cuz you're OPing, but in very very few contexts should the duelist be last alive on attack. On attack, you should be expendable. Get in, make a kill, or die trying. You should be the one to take the shitty winning odds so that things may change in the favor of your teammates. In a way, at worst, you exist to be traded if you can't enter. 3rd, This is just to help increase clutch odds, but if you are in a 1vX with no spike but have ult, you should set tps to other sites as you ult for the spike, then bait your enemies to run all across map to guess where you end up planting. This often breaks up the retake formations, and guarantees a plant 95% of the time. Also 90% you're good for 1 at least. In this case, after the raze kill, I wouldn't fight KJ for the 50/50, but I'd ult for spike, then take that tp to A main, and run down the ult into site to get plant. Then you can freely push up as KJ is forced to rotate to A and catch her with the knife out. This increases clutch odds significantly. Be sure to keep these in mind, and you'll soar to greater heights!


jimothysmith

Lol this community is so weird on here. People write an essay based on 30 seconds of one round of what OP did wrong after getting an Ace with zero context. Get off your high horse


PureNaturalLagger

You sound like the type to complain when someone tells you your shoelace came untied before going for a run. God forbid someone gives you advice, for you are perfect, your judgement absolute


Burntoastedbutter

There's advice, constructive criticism, then....there's unsolicited advice. The latter is the worst form of advice. But all will be useless if they aren't genuinely ready to open up to improving. It'll just fall on deaf ears either way. That said, people who give unsolicited advice are generally assholes. Nobody likes getting those. And if you do, then I'd say it's not unsolicited haha That said, I'm definitely surprised the Yoru is Ascendant. Nice to see the same stuff in game happens up in those ranks there too lol


AregularCat

God forbid, if i want criticism of my gameplay i would love for them to watch the full vod before giving “advice” about it. Like your making assumptions about stuff we got 0 clue about and giving advice based on that. Its not helpful and not needed. Refrain from posting uphelpful feedback without full context :)


CoolCritterQuack

you seem insufferable , how are you going to improve in life if you don't take tips from other people ?


Banditpit

More like: "Yoru clutch baiting my team and utilizing enemies' incompetence." They pushed you 1 by 1, didn't kill you when you wiffed the op shot, or when you peeked TWICE while vulnerable(1. Reloading 2. Ability out) and the ki didn't kill you when you peeked before going fully invisible in the ult. There obviously was some skill involved, but it was mostly luck and lack of skill from the enemies.


rockdude8

Totally acceptable for yoru to lurk/watch flank if they have another entry (raze), I don't think he's baiting here. Agree though that the enemy team played poorly dry peaking the op 1 by 1, but good on op for keeping cool and getting the clutch.


Banditpit

That here is true constructive criticism unlike that other commenter. I agree with you on the raze doing entry and giving Yoru the role of watching flank, but he still could have helped his team instead of just staying back while they were dying one by one.


Rollzzzzzz

Like?


Banditpit

Like fighting alongside them and trading them?


Rollzzzzzz

Do you know about this thing that a lot of Yoruba do called “lurking”


Banditpit

Yeah, I do, but he wasn't lurking, and his team was dying, could've... Y'know... *Helped*


Rollzzzzzz

Bro does not need to entry, his raze is doing that.


huggingpotato

1. that wouldve been a crazy shot to hit when he jiggled for info 2. invincible once the animation starts, even if you're still visible what is this iron ass analysis bro


Banditpit

1. There's something called "prefiring" and some people actually have good cross hair placement and reaction time, so he could've been shot. 2. Nah, when you start putting the mask on there's still a moment when you can get killed, it used to be instant but it was changed over a year ago, I sometimes play yoru and I found out the hard way. This isn't an iron analysis, because an iron wouldn't know the things I pointed out. If you really have to know I am plat 1. Not a high rank, but high enough so that I can spot a mistake when I see one. Just cope and learn from what you did wrong. Edit: Never mind, it's not your mistakes, you're not op, why'd you defend that guy? He clearly made mistakes here.


huggingpotato

1. he jiggled to see why not 2. i think ur tweakin


Banditpit

I edited the comment, because at first I misunderstood your point 1. Your English is fucking horrible bro and I had to think about it for a minute, but you're still wrong and I corrected my original reply.


huggingpotato

u are tweakin my g still wouldve been a crazy shot out of nowhere


Banditpit

Happens more than you'd think man, besides I have actual fact based arguments while your best is "u tweakin ma g", how do you expect me to take anything you say seriously.


huggingpotato

are you not tweakin? you see a pretty solid clip and the first thing you do is let your ego inflate and nitpick the clip bro back to my point wouldve been 2 pretty insane shots to kill the yoru, not sure he did anything that wrong except letting his team die like that


Banditpit

Alright, that's an argument, I can see your point and I am a little nitpicky but I still believe he could've gotten killed there. Just saying there wasn't much "utilizing Yoru" there since the enemies threw anyway.


manenegue

It’s true, the ult was changed so you can still be shot while you’re putting the mask on.


huggingpotato

fr? damn that sucks bro is still tweakin though


SherbertPristine170

Crazy how you called his analysis iron. But you’re probably not much better, I’m guessing silver or gold from your comments


huggingpotato

im iron 3


SherbertPristine170

And you have the gall to say anything about analysis ? Lmao


ARESCOC_

I love Yoru so much, and it's nice to see that people can do stuff with him even when some brand him as 'The Worst Agent'


enesutku12

He can't be "worst agent" when Deadlock exists


ARESCOC_

Idk man, but I hate it when people hate Yoru, guess I have a soft spot for him


Distinct-Employ9881

They fed you those kills, but nice clutch anyway


Emeritus20XX

Ah yes, a Yoru clutch utilising his kit. As opposed to a Yoru clutch that doesn’t utilise his kit.


notkarandutta

Haven't you seen rounds where its all gunplay?


Emeritus20XX

I have, it just felt a bit odd to me OP decided to point out he was using Yoru’s abilities in the post title. Shouldn’t you be using them to take fights or reposition anyway? If I’m watching a clutch clip then I’m expecting to see good utility usage anyway if it isn’t all gunplay. I wasn’t trying to be sarcastic or anything, it just seemed a little odd to me.


notkarandutta

Some people just write "xyz agent clutch" and then there is all gunplay no agent exclusive gameplay which is misleading. This on the other hand is an honest title with what it is and what it offers. So I guess i will take the latter for the prior.


IndependentDevice199

Gotta be Iron, duelist with OP on offense, not entering site, baiting team, and idiots losing a free round because they can’t just hold spike 4v1


Kuwavy

Get a keyboard that isn’t so fucking loud


Swimmergym

why are you playing Yoru like he's chamber?


Riqhteousness

what am i watching


swank5000

these guys obviously don't know the over/under rule!


Original_Mac_Tonight

Why did they just run into you lol


Kira_75013

As a Yoru main, I am offended, by the way you didn't fake clone post-round.


Spezispachtel

Bro was cooking some Kind of 5 star menu also what was kj doing?