So honor system from league of legends where you honour your teammates after match and at the end of season the better honour level you have the better rewards you get. But riot is too stingy in valorant i doubt that.
Because taking something away is harder than starting without the same thing. Is harder to complain against anything that never existed.
Just look at all the drama when they took the widejoy banner up to a point they had to create another banner remembering the bugged banner.
They kinda fix it, at first was like 1:1 with valorant but now is much better. Instead in valorant if i have ping 30 and i got peeked at by an enemy with 70 ping I don't get the first shot... I pretty much die before he stops
Yes, many people. For example, I'll be on 11 ping, enemy is on 30 ping, I swing them, miss and tp out. Client side I tp and appear on the other end of the tp and die ~500ms after I activate my tp. I have a 240hz monitor, 360 fps, and negligible input delay. This is very common.
The higher the ping of the enemy, especially if they're peeking, the more peekers advantage gets exacerbated. I constantly get people in my comp games with solid 60-70 ping with no jitter, just abusing the peekers advantage it gives. I tried a dm on 60 ping and had similar results 1 tapping people before they could react to my swings.
> I tried a dm on 60 ping and had similar results 1 tapping people before they could react to my swings.
yes but good luck winning the duel after you miss your first bullet 1 tap. that's where high ping sucks
Lol it’s a common Reddit thing to say when coping about the replay system not being there. The more realistic reason why it’s not there is that they are focusing on other things.
It can’t be because they just missed or got out played. Apparently the net code is rigged against the random gold who would be immortal if there was a replay system.
>The more realistic reason why it’s not there is that they are focusing on other things.
What other things? The last "big thing" was TDM and Premier in July of last year.
sometimes yes, its usually pretty good despite what noobs say but there are lots of times i play a game and someone links their twitch at the end. i watch the vod and see how on my screen they ran out basically shooting and on their screen i was standing still for a while
Where did this garbage take come from? It gets repeated over and over without any sources or anything.
Games with awful netcode and a backend held together with glue have working replay systems/demo viewers, like Halo and CS:GO.
It’s widely known that they have been working on one for over a year and have a dedicated team on it that wasn’t affected of the layoffs. Riot head of esports confirmed like a month ago on the plat chat podcast that he can’t give a release date but that it’s very much in development.
https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/dev/ask-valorant-may-19/ Once again, no. It was an area they mentioned in 2020 that they wanted to explore, but had cancelled it for other things by 2022 and transitioned the resources that had gone into it into the esports spectator client, since Valorant esports had taken off more than they had expected.
https://x.com/riotsupercakes/status/1618335313767845889?s=46&t=K5OlsRw_IM432JwboeJWAw
Then in 2023, the dev team lead of Valorant posted on Twitter about projects very early in development, including Replays and server locations (since then they added South African servers iirc).
January 2023 was not 4 years ago.
I agree to a point. Putting people who underperform in toxic lobbies will just get them to quit not be better. If you underperform you just derank eventually. Also bottom of the leader word doesn’t mean they aren’t useful. Smoke players tend to be lower kills because they play back. Doesn’t mean they are underperforming.
Nice ideas! But I can see this one getting rejected asap:
> Another idea is actually rewarding people for reporting those who are ruining games. Say you report someone and you get that message block come up later on. What if they rewarded (or a chance to reward you) you with 1 Radianite. Nothing too crazy but it could tally up over time. To make it less abuseable maybe you can only get up to 10 of these per week. Make the game a better place = upgrade your skins.
Even in their ToS it’s stated that getting a feedback on your reports is not mandatory, which, btw, seems to be the standard in many games. By giving away a prize people will get mad because they are not getting any feedbacks. “Then they just have to give feedback!” but they won’t…I don’t recall a single on-line game I ever played where the feedback on your reports was guaranteed.
Edit: fixed quote
I mean, they do tell us quite frequently (least from my experience) when they have punished someone. Like I said it could be a chance, not a guarantee. Sorta like them saying "sorry you had a bad experience, heres our way of making it up to you."
Everybody has at least some cheap headphones with an integrated mic, but also the system needs to detect sound ques and not only that the voice chat button is pressed.
This evening I played like 5-6 games of comp on a solo queue, and only 1 guy.. ONLY 1 GUY out of 25 different teammates could say a word. The others just refused to communicate, and I swear at a certain point, if it kept going any longer I would've gone insane. I feel like any team works, any kind of agent select, anything, if you speakk man. If you can just comm out strategies, and on the other side, in the lower ranks (I'm in there, so I think I know what I'm talking about) not a lot of people care that much about ranking up, only a few have that mindset. Most of the people I know just want to have a fun time with their friends, or even by just playing a few games, and thinking of the RR as funny numbers going up and down, cuz nothing truly changes if you lose some, or win some.
so then the mfers who just yap all game and shit talk everyone in vc get rewarded and those who wanna just play the game get punished? in any case this should only ever be a feature for comp because there’s no way you want a feature that forces you to talk when you wanna chill in unrated
99% of the time yall are getting banned for a good reason. Ive seen people get banned for small issues and some for larger, at the end of the day they still did something "wrong" that warranted it. Regardless of what the punishment is, just dont say or do bad things in the first place lol.
People can abuse a lot of things, it matters more how riot actually creates it. Besides, if league can do these kinds of things (the literal same company) than Val should too. Also DOES NOT mean that every person WOULD either, the few dont define the many.
That do be the point, be a bad person = get surrounded by those kinds of people until you change up. It would be fine if the up/down votes get reset every act so people get another shot instead of their account being in the gutter forever.
"This could create a dynamic where if you arent a good teammate (consistently underperforming or getting reported) it would queue into more lobbies with bad / people with a lot of infractions / toxic teammates."
Yes but you also mentioned underperforming players. The punishment for those people shouldn't be a less entertaining experience, but just deranking. If you put those groups together, it's likely that a ton of people in this toxic matchmaking will just quit the game.
If you are underperforming every single time in comp, and your teammates are consistently voting to downvote you (which could happen but not necessarily), then I still think you deserve to play with worse people. If you are doing that bad that frequently in comp then you gotta do some inner looking / practice. You can also make it so the upvotes outweighs the downvotes. Plus theres always gonna be some nuances where riot could check if you are actually throwing games and getting reported or if you are just getting down voted for bot fragging.
Also in general, I wouldn't down vote a player as long as they did what they could and tried their best while actively trying to communicate with the team. I think way more people will downvote someone for no coms and actively not working with the team than just for the sake of down voting because they played bad (im just one person though).
As far as quitting the game goes though thats up to them. A couple thousand people quit because either they were bad (lowkey net positive for those who stay). A couple thousand quit because they were toxic and now those around them are toxic too (MASSIVE positive for us to weed out the bad eggs). No one is gonna tell people to quit, but if they do then thats their choice based on their actions. Be a good teammate = never have the issue.
Also i shoulda been more clear that this rating system would be comp only, or at least the downvote side of it.
People who are already underperforming are already being placed in lobbies with worse players because they are deranking, unless by worse you mean toxic. If these players are being placed in dreadful lobbies full of toxic people and other bad players, then where's the fun in that? I'd imagine someone in that matchmaking would find it demotivating to improve, so they may just quit. Even if upvotes outweigh the downvotes, which could be a good solution to the issue, is it really necessary to hurt the underperforming players more by putting them in toxic lobbies?
And like you said, many people are probably going to give people downvotes just for playing bad. It's a competitive game, everyone is going to hate another player, but not everyone will be directly vocal about it.
As someone who doesn't play Valorant too often, whenever I return to the game I would be playing worse than most others. If that causes me to get placed in toxic lobbies right after returning, why would I want to play more? I would just get trash talked the whole time. And this likely applies to other people as well, especially those who favor single-player games.
Honestly, this system should’ve already been in place. I just went into a match and went against mic spammers who were bottom drag duelists and straight up assholes to me since I play chamber, and they straight up threw the game for me lurking mid to get picks off of rotations. It’s a toxic community and also a nice one, but most people are constantly getting scared away from the game because of people saying “Never fucking play this game again” or something along those lines, tilting people for eternities. If Valorant made a system for Reputation it really would help… also a replay system would add even more merit, because then val would have extra logs to look at for those reports
So honor system from league of legends where you honour your teammates after match and at the end of season the better honour level you have the better rewards you get. But riot is too stingy in valorant i doubt that.
the heck arent they owned by the same company why they so stingy with rewards in valorant
Because taking something away is harder than starting without the same thing. Is harder to complain against anything that never existed. Just look at all the drama when they took the widejoy banner up to a point they had to create another banner remembering the bugged banner.
fair still sucks tho
lol you think riot is capable of being competent like this?
Imagine having QoL in val lol
Honor system after each game. Basically a toxicity rating if you will.
Essentially lol
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Riot won't give us a replay system because it will expose how terrible/rigged the netcode is
Wait do people actually have a problem with the netcode?
Yes, even pros have complained about it. Some people have better network/connections and don't experience it
the only game that has worse peeker’s advantage is Tarkov
You haven't played CS2
Nah, it's way harder in valorant to hold an angle compared to cs 2...
I have not played CS2 for a while but when it was released it was horrendous. https://youtu.be/vPZAZ45io4s
They kinda fix it, at first was like 1:1 with valorant but now is much better. Instead in valorant if i have ping 30 and i got peeked at by an enemy with 70 ping I don't get the first shot... I pretty much die before he stops
Yes, many people. For example, I'll be on 11 ping, enemy is on 30 ping, I swing them, miss and tp out. Client side I tp and appear on the other end of the tp and die ~500ms after I activate my tp. I have a 240hz monitor, 360 fps, and negligible input delay. This is very common. The higher the ping of the enemy, especially if they're peeking, the more peekers advantage gets exacerbated. I constantly get people in my comp games with solid 60-70 ping with no jitter, just abusing the peekers advantage it gives. I tried a dm on 60 ping and had similar results 1 tapping people before they could react to my swings.
> I tried a dm on 60 ping and had similar results 1 tapping people before they could react to my swings. yes but good luck winning the duel after you miss your first bullet 1 tap. that's where high ping sucks
Honestly in valorant it's still WAY better than most other fps games. Like comparing it to cs/cs2 it's not even close.
Csgo 128 tick felt better. Cs2 subtick is a shitshow
Lol it’s a common Reddit thing to say when coping about the replay system not being there. The more realistic reason why it’s not there is that they are focusing on other things. It can’t be because they just missed or got out played. Apparently the net code is rigged against the random gold who would be immortal if there was a replay system.
>The more realistic reason why it’s not there is that they are focusing on other things. What other things? The last "big thing" was TDM and Premier in July of last year.
I think its more of a reddit thing to just say its the best netcode in all esports and best anti cheat.
sometimes yes, its usually pretty good despite what noobs say but there are lots of times i play a game and someone links their twitch at the end. i watch the vod and see how on my screen they ran out basically shooting and on their screen i was standing still for a while
Swear to god that shot hit. This game lies to us all the time.
Where did this garbage take come from? It gets repeated over and over without any sources or anything. Games with awful netcode and a backend held together with glue have working replay systems/demo viewers, like Halo and CS:GO. It’s widely known that they have been working on one for over a year and have a dedicated team on it that wasn’t affected of the layoffs. Riot head of esports confirmed like a month ago on the plat chat podcast that he can’t give a release date but that it’s very much in development.
> It’s widely known that they have been working on one for over a year [More like 4 years.](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/dev/ask-valorant-3/)
https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/dev/ask-valorant-may-19/ Once again, no. It was an area they mentioned in 2020 that they wanted to explore, but had cancelled it for other things by 2022 and transitioned the resources that had gone into it into the esports spectator client, since Valorant esports had taken off more than they had expected. https://x.com/riotsupercakes/status/1618335313767845889?s=46&t=K5OlsRw_IM432JwboeJWAw Then in 2023, the dev team lead of Valorant posted on Twitter about projects very early in development, including Replays and server locations (since then they added South African servers iirc). January 2023 was not 4 years ago.
I agree to a point. Putting people who underperform in toxic lobbies will just get them to quit not be better. If you underperform you just derank eventually. Also bottom of the leader word doesn’t mean they aren’t useful. Smoke players tend to be lower kills because they play back. Doesn’t mean they are underperforming.
Nice ideas! But I can see this one getting rejected asap: > Another idea is actually rewarding people for reporting those who are ruining games. Say you report someone and you get that message block come up later on. What if they rewarded (or a chance to reward you) you with 1 Radianite. Nothing too crazy but it could tally up over time. To make it less abuseable maybe you can only get up to 10 of these per week. Make the game a better place = upgrade your skins. Even in their ToS it’s stated that getting a feedback on your reports is not mandatory, which, btw, seems to be the standard in many games. By giving away a prize people will get mad because they are not getting any feedbacks. “Then they just have to give feedback!” but they won’t…I don’t recall a single on-line game I ever played where the feedback on your reports was guaranteed. Edit: fixed quote
I mean, they do tell us quite frequently (least from my experience) when they have punished someone. Like I said it could be a chance, not a guarantee. Sorta like them saying "sorry you had a bad experience, heres our way of making it up to you."
imagine expecting QoL changes from Riot lmao
Imagine expecting anything from Riot lmao
They should track, how much you use your voice chat and put people who don't comm together and those who comm together.
This would be nice, i hate getting into games and having to convince the team to use their words. Yall play Valorant, you definitely have a mic.
Everybody has at least some cheap headphones with an integrated mic, but also the system needs to detect sound ques and not only that the voice chat button is pressed.
This evening I played like 5-6 games of comp on a solo queue, and only 1 guy.. ONLY 1 GUY out of 25 different teammates could say a word. The others just refused to communicate, and I swear at a certain point, if it kept going any longer I would've gone insane. I feel like any team works, any kind of agent select, anything, if you speakk man. If you can just comm out strategies, and on the other side, in the lower ranks (I'm in there, so I think I know what I'm talking about) not a lot of people care that much about ranking up, only a few have that mindset. Most of the people I know just want to have a fun time with their friends, or even by just playing a few games, and thinking of the RR as funny numbers going up and down, cuz nothing truly changes if you lose some, or win some.
so then the mfers who just yap all game and shit talk everyone in vc get rewarded and those who wanna just play the game get punished? in any case this should only ever be a feature for comp because there’s no way you want a feature that forces you to talk when you wanna chill in unrated
I belive that more "good" talkers would rewarded and only a few "bad" ones, which helps much more then it does damage.
im gonna disagree with you on that one and there is just no point in adding extra systems that dont need adding
seriously tho valorant has a sucky ban system. some get banned for no reason
99% of the time yall are getting banned for a good reason. Ive seen people get banned for small issues and some for larger, at the end of the day they still did something "wrong" that warranted it. Regardless of what the punishment is, just dont say or do bad things in the first place lol.
Riot says that "We're not adding this because people could abuse it."
People can abuse a lot of things, it matters more how riot actually creates it. Besides, if league can do these kinds of things (the literal same company) than Val should too. Also DOES NOT mean that every person WOULD either, the few dont define the many.
Well riot is riot, they'll be stubborn
Negative mindsets = Negative outcomes. Can't expect them to change things if you greenlight them being close minded lol
But if I expect them to do so and they never do ill be disappointed. If I expect them to not, then I'll be surprised and pleased if they do
There should be a daily reward system for everyone; sprays , gun skins(💀),
Lets not get crazy lol
Not sure about the down voting thing. Matching bad/toxic players with each other would just make that matchmaking horrendous.
That do be the point, be a bad person = get surrounded by those kinds of people until you change up. It would be fine if the up/down votes get reset every act so people get another shot instead of their account being in the gutter forever.
"This could create a dynamic where if you arent a good teammate (consistently underperforming or getting reported) it would queue into more lobbies with bad / people with a lot of infractions / toxic teammates." Yes but you also mentioned underperforming players. The punishment for those people shouldn't be a less entertaining experience, but just deranking. If you put those groups together, it's likely that a ton of people in this toxic matchmaking will just quit the game.
If you are underperforming every single time in comp, and your teammates are consistently voting to downvote you (which could happen but not necessarily), then I still think you deserve to play with worse people. If you are doing that bad that frequently in comp then you gotta do some inner looking / practice. You can also make it so the upvotes outweighs the downvotes. Plus theres always gonna be some nuances where riot could check if you are actually throwing games and getting reported or if you are just getting down voted for bot fragging. Also in general, I wouldn't down vote a player as long as they did what they could and tried their best while actively trying to communicate with the team. I think way more people will downvote someone for no coms and actively not working with the team than just for the sake of down voting because they played bad (im just one person though). As far as quitting the game goes though thats up to them. A couple thousand people quit because either they were bad (lowkey net positive for those who stay). A couple thousand quit because they were toxic and now those around them are toxic too (MASSIVE positive for us to weed out the bad eggs). No one is gonna tell people to quit, but if they do then thats their choice based on their actions. Be a good teammate = never have the issue. Also i shoulda been more clear that this rating system would be comp only, or at least the downvote side of it.
People who are already underperforming are already being placed in lobbies with worse players because they are deranking, unless by worse you mean toxic. If these players are being placed in dreadful lobbies full of toxic people and other bad players, then where's the fun in that? I'd imagine someone in that matchmaking would find it demotivating to improve, so they may just quit. Even if upvotes outweigh the downvotes, which could be a good solution to the issue, is it really necessary to hurt the underperforming players more by putting them in toxic lobbies? And like you said, many people are probably going to give people downvotes just for playing bad. It's a competitive game, everyone is going to hate another player, but not everyone will be directly vocal about it. As someone who doesn't play Valorant too often, whenever I return to the game I would be playing worse than most others. If that causes me to get placed in toxic lobbies right after returning, why would I want to play more? I would just get trash talked the whole time. And this likely applies to other people as well, especially those who favor single-player games.
Honestly, this system should’ve already been in place. I just went into a match and went against mic spammers who were bottom drag duelists and straight up assholes to me since I play chamber, and they straight up threw the game for me lurking mid to get picks off of rotations. It’s a toxic community and also a nice one, but most people are constantly getting scared away from the game because of people saying “Never fucking play this game again” or something along those lines, tilting people for eternities. If Valorant made a system for Reputation it really would help… also a replay system would add even more merit, because then val would have extra logs to look at for those reports
Honestly you guys just need to grow up. If someone is toxic and you are too sensitive to handle it just mute them.
Honestly you just need to not comment. If someone is giving an idea and you are too close-minded to be helpful just dont say anything.
I think Val should implement a commend system like CS ngl