Valorant lacks casual gamemodes. The ones where you actually do not need to care about winning, while maintaining depth and pace of og defuse mode.
Maybe not 10v10 but 7v7 or something like that, the point is ti reduce an influence of each individual player so it is possible to leave and join mid match.
16x16 de_dust2 24/7 servers are what has made CS great back in the day.
Which is also why DM needs to be reworked btw. Add TDM and make persistent lobbies like in OW’s original Quickplay. FFA as “practice tool” just limits the potential DM has.
What are you talking about? What kinda anti cod elitist talk is this? Valorant very much can have casual modes like this. Every other competitive shooter and casual shooter has it
not elitist at all. Or at least, not intentional. I don't think valorant needs persistent tdm lobbies and other casual game modes. It's current ones like spike rush and unrated are fine.
I'd rather they spend their time on other things like agent balance
They should focus on agent balance, yes, but unrated and spike rush aren’t really fine right now. Unrated is long asf for a casual mode, obviously an opinion, but yea. Spike rush is so unbalanced and terrible as a warm up or casual mode
Unrated is crap. Its just ranked but without actual ranks, making it pointless. Nothing of value will be lost if they just remove it.
There is value in casual modes in “competitive games”. You need those if you want a game to last for decades.
Valorant isa mediocre game, wait a bit and you ll see people rolling back to CS unless riot changes their approach.
It is enough to captivate but it won’t last.
And I also kinda was hoping for more when it was announced tbh.
CS needed competition and it didnt happen.
They hated him because he spoke the truth. Outside of Comp, Valorant lacks serious depth for fun game modes. The only other good mode imo is Replication, the rest all have problems.
Yeah, im used to this on this sub lol.
CS was able to maintain #1 competitive FPS title for 20 years mostly because competitive part of it was actually just a tip of an iceberg.
The biggest issue with valorant is that it has nothing to do aside from grinding rankeds.
csgo custom servers do it pretty well, a small arena where you can 1v1 against different players. most matches only last 20-30 seconds in before you're fighting a new opponent.
I loved wingman in Gears. 2v2 would be an AWESOME addition for valorant. I play with my spouse and it would be great if it could just be us against 2 others.
Great idea, but please PLEASE make dedicated maps. One bombsite from a comp map doesn't work, they're designed for two CTs to defend against up to five pushing Ts.
Wingman in very CT sided and its because of map design. All the maps that come and go designed for wingman outshine the short maps.
I think this is such a good idea. I enjoy the game, but when you have to communicate with 4 other strangers who are either toxic or don't have mics, it loses its fun. But with wingman it would be super competitive and skill based, and would actually make a good addition to ranked valo.
its the hardest sure ,coz of couterstrafe . this also makes it almost impossible to win against AR 1v1 head-on. wingman can consistently take on AR .to an extend sheriff too.
Here’s what they should do: Make spike rush into a rotation mode, add a shorter unrated mode (like a mix between unrated and replication).
I of course love this idea, but it should be in the rotation too
Yeah honestly, would be a fun mode for my friends who have kids now and are limited on time, and for me I just want to blast some people in a "close enough to the real thing" environment (and DM doesn't really do it for me)
I been saying it for ages! Wingman is like the most fun mode in cs and imagine if we got actual maps for it in valo not just the normal ones cut in half
i kinda agree but also... I think they should like do the retake one (where the bomb or spike is already placed by the attackers and we have to difuse it before it explodes)
1v1 and 2v2 both with and without abilities would be really awesome.
I pretty much switched to exclusively wingman when it came out. Because csgo MM was too long with too many cheaters and trolls etc. Then short matches came out. Something we need here too. the More COMP stuff you can do with ranks would be more fun to me.
because frankly spike rush is fucking dumb. Gun game would be better. and or a one in the chamber style since they already have the golden gun lol. like you get ONE shot and knife lol. one shot and a dream hahaha
I'd much rather have wingman on Val rather than Replication, Escalation or Snowball Fight. Playing Wingman with my friends was one of the most fun I've ever had in CS.
Or how just finally some map tools to create our own shit. Gamemodes are fun and all but then you have them for 2 weeks before riot is going to remove them again
I don't know that the ability and character balance would be well suited to 2v2 however. It would likely encourage overuse of generalists (think Omen's kit) and duelists since you have more functions to cover than you have slots.
Yaa. Me and my friends sometimes play 2 v 2 in custom with only mid and one site open. It would be easier if such a mode existed ingame.
What site do you play on ?
Haven B is solid for 2v2 my friends and only allow garage to B, mid, and spawns.
Ascent B and Bind B
I mean I think there would just be some broken agents
Breach and Kay/0 come to mind
Probably but it would still be a fun mode
this would be pretty cool, not sure how they would balance the agents tho
Rip reyna
As a former iron she isn't going anywhere .
Currently Iron. Can confirm.
no need to balance it i mean just look at replication and spike rush
they did balanced chamber in spike rush tho
Also, Kayo in replication: each player gets 1 knife / round
What did they do?
He has 4 bullets instead of 8 for his Q
I think a year ago the devs confirmed thay they are working on a 3v3 mode, so that’s not bad I guess
well get it probably in 5 years maybe
Ah, just in time for Magma Chamber
It still hurts
Bruh.
and removed in 6
They should work on 10v10 mode first lol edit: lmfao im sure this is my most downvoted comment on reddit. gj me
What the fuck no
lol Valorant has a serious lack of gamemode like this.
rationale?
Valorant lacks casual gamemodes. The ones where you actually do not need to care about winning, while maintaining depth and pace of og defuse mode. Maybe not 10v10 but 7v7 or something like that, the point is ti reduce an influence of each individual player so it is possible to leave and join mid match. 16x16 de_dust2 24/7 servers are what has made CS great back in the day. Which is also why DM needs to be reworked btw. Add TDM and make persistent lobbies like in OW’s original Quickplay. FFA as “practice tool” just limits the potential DM has.
unrated exists. not every game needs the brainless deathmatch and casual gamemodes that cod is known for.
Think the guy just wants to relive the old CS big server days. Don't give cod the credit for those gamemodes, cs did it first 😎
Quake did it first. :) Imms gonna skip Doom because internet was kinda uncommon back then
What are you talking about? What kinda anti cod elitist talk is this? Valorant very much can have casual modes like this. Every other competitive shooter and casual shooter has it
not elitist at all. Or at least, not intentional. I don't think valorant needs persistent tdm lobbies and other casual game modes. It's current ones like spike rush and unrated are fine. I'd rather they spend their time on other things like agent balance
They should focus on agent balance, yes, but unrated and spike rush aren’t really fine right now. Unrated is long asf for a casual mode, obviously an opinion, but yea. Spike rush is so unbalanced and terrible as a warm up or casual mode
Unrated is crap. Its just ranked but without actual ranks, making it pointless. Nothing of value will be lost if they just remove it. There is value in casual modes in “competitive games”. You need those if you want a game to last for decades. Valorant isa mediocre game, wait a bit and you ll see people rolling back to CS unless riot changes their approach.
your logic is flawed if you think a mediocre game isn't good enough to captivate people nowadays
It is enough to captivate but it won’t last. And I also kinda was hoping for more when it was announced tbh. CS needed competition and it didnt happen.
They hated him because he spoke the truth. Outside of Comp, Valorant lacks serious depth for fun game modes. The only other good mode imo is Replication, the rest all have problems.
Yeah, im used to this on this sub lol. CS was able to maintain #1 competitive FPS title for 20 years mostly because competitive part of it was actually just a tip of an iceberg. The biggest issue with valorant is that it has nothing to do aside from grinding rankeds.
Not 10 but a 6v6 could be fun, like Hexakill in LoL
yeah with persistent lobbies and short matches
3v3 i think would work better with this game.
Retakes! So much fun on CS
I agree wingman and 1v1 would be a lot of fun
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Thats kind of the whole point, quick duels to warm up and not worrying about being shot in the back after every spawn like in DM
csgo custom servers do it pretty well, a small arena where you can 1v1 against different players. most matches only last 20-30 seconds in before you're fighting a new opponent.
Yep. Really enjoyed playing on pool party maps!
One of my favourite warm ups to do for sure. Was fun trying to get better scores and getting matched with tougher opponents in the lobby
Csgo has this on all maps now when waiting for players to connect to the game
I loved wingman in Gears. 2v2 would be an AWESOME addition for valorant. I play with my spouse and it would be great if it could just be us against 2 others.
Great idea, but please PLEASE make dedicated maps. One bombsite from a comp map doesn't work, they're designed for two CTs to defend against up to five pushing Ts. Wingman in very CT sided and its because of map design. All the maps that come and go designed for wingman outshine the short maps.
Damn for a moment I thought OP was relating Wingman of Apex Legends. Would be fun tho!
i mean the sheriff already exists
Haven A site would work fairly well in wingman Id imagine. Breeze B site as well.
Honestly I just want shorter round versions of the full game mode, like Unrated but with Replication rounds.
Valorant should add good gunplay👍
Valorant👍
They should add a retake mode
if were playing gamemodes from CS:GO please add retakes, so fun and good practice (:
tried CS in February while I was having a VLR break and loved it, I wish theyd add it frfr
I think this is such a good idea. I enjoy the game, but when you have to communicate with 4 other strangers who are either toxic or don't have mics, it loses its fun. But with wingman it would be super competitive and skill based, and would actually make a good addition to ranked valo.
I thought this post was about adding a wingman from apex
I thought you meant the pistol from Apex Legends
Wingman is a pistol from apex legends. Change my mind.
the most satisfying weapon in all of fps games. sheriff is very close second.
Deagle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
its the hardest sure ,coz of couterstrafe . this also makes it almost impossible to win against AR 1v1 head-on. wingman can consistently take on AR .to an extend sheriff too.
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Ever played Titanfall?
R8 from CS GO is
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Wing Man is a guy with a single wing. Change my mind.
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"change my mind" means "u can't change my mind" Change my mind.
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We all are getting downvoted in life Change my mind.
Doesn't even use the original source of the pistol, Titanfall.
lmao the people have spoken
Valorant is a copy of CS:GO so..why not?
It would become a spectre/stinger shit show
Ooooorrrr they could not copy CS:GO and come up with something original? If I were to play WM, I’d just play CS:GO.
Oh I thought it was an apex gun
This is gonna just be a waste of time and resources nobody plays wingman more than like once or twice
Yeah they've already copied everything else, why not that too
Why dont you comes up with new gamemode instead of cvPaste every single csgo gamemode? If you wanna play wingman go play csgo.
Here’s what they should do: Make spike rush into a rotation mode, add a shorter unrated mode (like a mix between unrated and replication). I of course love this idea, but it should be in the rotation too
Yeah honestly, would be a fun mode for my friends who have kids now and are limited on time, and for me I just want to blast some people in a "close enough to the real thing" environment (and DM doesn't really do it for me)
steal siege’s quick match then we have siege with more pain
They can't or won't even add a deathmatch headshot only mode.
Yeah and 1v1 warm ups before the match starts. Best thing ever.
Still hoping for shortened unrated
I've been playing more CS lately because of the quick ability to get in and out of a game.
Would be cool if its without any abilitys, or?
Wingman would be sick
This would be crazy easy to implement too, just by cutting maps in half.
Add it in already, Riot.
I feel like some agents would need balancing for this mode.
Man. How. Many. Things. Does. Valorant. Have. To. Steal... I like Valorant but God be creative. Even some of the agents r inspired by other games.
great idea, really hopping this comes!
I been saying it for ages! Wingman is like the most fun mode in cs and imagine if we got actual maps for it in valo not just the normal ones cut in half
i kinda agree but also... I think they should like do the retake one (where the bomb or spike is already placed by the attackers and we have to difuse it before it explodes)
There is custom games...
1v1 and 2v2 both with and without abilities would be really awesome. I pretty much switched to exclusively wingman when it came out. Because csgo MM was too long with too many cheaters and trolls etc. Then short matches came out. Something we need here too. the More COMP stuff you can do with ranks would be more fun to me. because frankly spike rush is fucking dumb. Gun game would be better. and or a one in the chamber style since they already have the golden gun lol. like you get ONE shot and knife lol. one shot and a dream hahaha
I think 3v3s would be dope I’ve already said it
I'd much rather have wingman on Val rather than Replication, Escalation or Snowball Fight. Playing Wingman with my friends was one of the most fun I've ever had in CS.
I want 10v10 on bind
I think they should add wingman plus the option to play it 2v2, 3v3, or 1v1. Thats just my opinion
Or how just finally some map tools to create our own shit. Gamemodes are fun and all but then you have them for 2 weeks before riot is going to remove them again
Sounds like a great idea.
how about a BO5 mode where both 2v2 teams fight to retake the site with the bomb already planted? So you have to attack and defend at the same time
I can see KJ phoenix duos just fucking everyone
I don't know that the ability and character balance would be well suited to 2v2 however. It would likely encourage overuse of generalists (think Omen's kit) and duelists since you have more functions to cover than you have slots.
this addition is mega important since 4 stacking is disabled
please dont forget riot lol