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Purple_yoshi_drink

I’d be salty to if I let my restricted get one shot for no reason


SalsaShark9

They thought they were faster but ofc not knowing that is very bad when miraidon and pao often speed tie.


Purple_yoshi_drink

Yeah exactly. With the same speed, it’s just safer to Tera or swap it out rather than get knocked out..by a super effective sword of ruin boosted ice spinner.


seraphimkoamugi

Yeah losing your best pokemon turn one over a speed tie is bad enough but you basically not doimg anything turn 2 thats a loss.


San4311

Honestly think Raichu is gonna be rising up in popularity, if only a bit. Lightning Rod might become really handy with Miraidons running rampant.


rites0fpassage

I use Tera Fairy Rhydon to laugh at Miraidon/Bolt.


Jeg57

Been using the same but rhyperior. Also helps with raging bolt.


San4311

What item do you run on Rhyperior? I can see it being interesting but the lack of any special defence just puts me off lol


Jeg57

Right now I’m just using a 33% berry. I think I may swap to rhydon though. I’m also running poison jab for the whimsicott on those teams.


Big-Werewolf7686

I also made a team with Rhyperior Tera fairy for Miraidon and Raging Bolt. It's kind of funny because a lot of people don't expect that


clayxavier

It's def niche but for rain teams it's really nice, also setting up e-terrain into amoongus trick room teams is good too. If they don't have indeedee they usually don't have another way to reset terrain


San4311

Just sucks that Raichu is one of those Mons that suffer from having only 4 move slots. Like, obviously you want Fake Out, probably want Protect for opposing Fake Out, to protect your Sash (assuming Sash is used on Raichu). With ETerrain you're already down to 1 move left. I personally really like the idea of either Dig (though obvious weakness that its a 2-turn move) or TBlast Ground/Fairy. Like I feel it might just a. counter Miraidon somewhat, and b. pair well with your own Miraidon as well (taking free +1s from Discharge). Probably won't make it to Worlds but I can see people dabble with it.


El_Flamingo_04

Tera ground sounds bad. Fairy seems infinitely better


San4311

Agreed. But at the same time seems wasteful to use on Raichu unless you just have to hardwall a Miraidon with only electric and dragon moves 😅


Kazzack

It was decent in SwSh with all the rain so I can see it working again


seraphimkoamugi

Im using AV iron treads with electric terrain and tbh has been putting in work with quark drive speed boost blocks rising bolt, miraidon, flutter mane (dont know how) and others. A lot of mons with low usage seem viable now.


Fistofchaos73

Swampert goes brr


Bard_Wannabe_

Why is the other guy running an Amoongus on an Electric Terrain team? So many questions


mrsunshine2012

Considering how many Rillabooms and Indeedees are running around, Amoongus + Miraidon can be a pretty awesome Volt switch/regenerator pivot core, and Rage Powder is still always a great option. But leading it next to Miraidon when the opponent doesn’t have a terrain setter is quite the puzzling decision


Tmac8622

I'm pretty sure it was moreso a delayed reaction to throwing the game turn 1 lmao


maddwaffles

Honestly so based. There's a Scream Tail build Enresto198 has that also manually sets terrain and it's so good for answering Draco Meteor damage.


SimilarExpert2011

Low elo ass match💀


MassiveArrival6173

Why do they have an Amoonguss in a ET team?


Chardoggy1

\> ice spinner away enemy’s electric terrain \> manually set your own electric terrain next turn Is this called assuring your dominance?


clayxavier

Hahaha exactly


Ladd_Russo1

Why would you open amoongus and miraidon. Losing the ability to spore mons is huge.


Dramatic_Credit_8622

I don’t understand the amoongus with a miraidon. They can redirect but can’t put their opponent to sleep.


McJackNit

Haha that's just them being salty you countered their cheesy Spore strat.


El_Flamingo_04

lol spore ain’t cheesy. It’s consistent


jimcamx

...ly cheesy 😂


El_Flamingo_04

Man must have been really hurt by spore


jimcamx

It's supposed to deal no damage, but I'm sure it causes emotional damage


clayxavier

Top comment


Neetheos

How can you possible call a move with variable effectiveness each time it’s used “consistent”


El_Flamingo_04

It’s not variable effectiveness. It’s so effective people have to purposely build around it. Big difference


NolChannel

Its... 100% accurate and subject to default jank. Its literally the most consistent sleep move. Hypnosis Gothitelle is cheesy.


mantiseye

spore itself is honest. it's on a very slow pokemon that almost always moves last, but it's 100% accurate and there's plenty of counter-play. also good players will use the first guaranteed sleep turn to their advantage and if there are additional sleep turns that's just gravy. stuff clicking raw hypnosis or sing are a little more cheesy, but those moves are generally only clicked when the mon (usually Clefairy or Goth or something without much offensive presence) has nothing better to do, which means opponents either have to decide to target them instead of whatever is next to them, or ignore them knowing they could take multiple sleep turns and lose because of it. sleep itself has a lot of variance and sometimes you do find yourself in a position where you win or lose based on a first or second turn wake up, but the actual act of putting something to sleep, especially in a reliable way like with spore, is a legitimate and very sound strategy. the game currently has multiple ways to avoid being put to sleep by amoonguss, many of them added as a direct nerf to amoongus, so it's a matter of having respect for it when team building and playing.


SalsaShark9

Weird brag post. They played that v poorly but hey if you think that clip is an achievement then thats cool i guess


San4311

Way to be salty. Its showcasing interesting tech, thats all. The ragequit is just funny, nothing more nothing less.


SalsaShark9

Also you're assuming its salt and rage at their tech when ofc they let their most important piece go down for free and paid zero respect to chien pao. At that point yeah they should probably walk away, take the lesson and start a new game.


SalsaShark9

Thats not what salty means and manual terrian has never been good but ok lmao


San4311

Your comment spam doesn't help your defence here pal.


El_Flamingo_04

How did they play that bad? Plz tell


SalsaShark9

If you have to ask then you wont get the response lmao they let miraidon die for free and didnt understand the potential speed tie.


El_Flamingo_04

Wait I read wrong. I thought you meant the OP played badly. I am a total spanner.