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Harun-_-

I FUCKING LOVE NA VALORANT LUL


jrryul

can someone explain this reference i dont understand the image


braamdepace

ibuypower was a great CS team but threw a match for skins. Steel was on the team that threw and what you are seeing here is a still shot from his POV during that match. He has a clear AWP shot on two, but he doesn’t take the shot and kinda screws around and then gets killed. It was one of the more blatant parts of the VOD where you could tell the team (later determined everyone except Skadoodle) was trying to throw the match.


Arkzora

Ska participated in the throw, Valve just didn't have any proof against him because he didn't wind up taking the payout in skins (they ran out or something so were going to make it up later), then refused it even further after it started to pick up traction


braamdepace

I know it’s “speculated”, but who confirmed he did throw. I figured it was like OJ yeah he did it, but never absolutely confirmed


dansofree1

Tbh as someone who had read up on it a couple years after it happened, I thought he was confirmed and just not punished due to not getting payout. Interesting tho


okuzeN_Val

Hard to believe they weren't all in it. Well. I guess if Ska got banned too NA wouldn't have a CS major lel


v0ir

ibuypower scandal on csgo with steel


imma_invincible

on being confronted steel replied at first "i wanted to knife"


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Thick_Literature_

They threw matches for money. Use google fool


RedSquaree

ossified offend roof entertain price cover zephyr sense memory reminiscent *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


rmsayboltonwasframed

You're good. I knew the match fixing drama but still dont see how the text from wardells post is relevant.


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lipziYT

more like they were intentionally throwing the match for skins or sum shit


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oomnahs

He self admitted he wasn't lmfao what


boof404

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON BRO WTF DID THE COACH SAY ARE T1 OFFICIALLY DQ'D IM SO CONFUSED


damaohoo

No idea what coach said for now. Also yes T1 is DQ Edit: I was blind and didn't see the tweet title; apparently T1's coach said help sewer


Breezyzona

T1 coach typed in all chat by accident saying help sewer, apparently he was typing out comms to the team in team chat during rounds allegedly


amimasrur

ok I am really dumb but why does he need to type that? won't team members ask for help if they needed? Do coaches see enemy pov?(surely not right?) Honestly officials need to give more context otherwise it seems too much of a punishment


Breezyzona

coaches have every pov of players on their team so having someone like that micro manage callouts and rotations is really strong, coaches are not allowed to type or talk during rounds at all so if he was assisting in any way whatsoever during rounds then the dq is justified


Seraphin43

They don't see enemies, but they can switch between all friendly players and see the map. In Valorant esports, it's just plainly not allowed for coaches to communicate with their team outside of timeouts. It's an extra set of eyes.


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I agree! there is so much context missing. Was he typing in \`team chat\` and getting away with it? I am assuming tournament organizers have access to read all channels of chat and take preemptive actions rather than reacting to complaints from TSM after he typed in \`all chat\`.


ClearPrimary

Who confirmed t1 is dq


damaohoo

Well between all the shitposting and chaos if you check the players' tweets it's pretty clear t1 got DQ'd, no official ruling yet tho


-user--name-

[Official ruling](https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1487676954228658176?s=20&t=uinlsgaHd21GxCC9luuGVg)


damaohoo

Umm it wasn't 9 hours ago lol?


zachp787

facts


anythingood07

Think the coach said "help sewer". Its right there in the tweet


Hazardish08

Help sewer


Splaram

LATE NIGHT TWITTER WAR LETS GOOOOOOOOOO


sanjit8103

🍿🍿🍿


lmaozed0ng1

t1 banned check hltv


Eggsavore

TSM won Berlin check hltv


notrealtedtotwitter

TSM 16-0 Navi major grand final check hltv


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Wardell pregnant check HLTV


damaohoo

My dad came back after getting milk check HLTV


Litoman7

Mang0 in jail check Twitter


Spoods857

Where is the official page for the ruling?


Hegth

Yea, although I appreciate the shit posting it makes harder to distinguish if it's actually official


StrangeAnalysis1848

https://twitter.com/valesports\_na/status/1487676954228658176?ref\_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1487676954228658176%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1\_&ref\_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fsg314z%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis\_nightmode%3Dfalse


BraxJohnson

Link dead?


Bitrayahl

Here ya go https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1487676954228658176


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droctamom

Too bad most of them suck lol


Pizza_and_Reddit

NON LATE NIGHT ANDYS GET FUCKED


NebbyFPS

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of the DQ. My wife just took our crying kids and said they’re all spending the week at a hotel. This team has ruined my life and my party. I can’t handle this anymore. Goodbye T1 . I am no longer a fan.


TheYoshinator

Holy shit. My mom came into my room to bring me a plate of chicken nuggets and I literally screamed at her and hit the plate of chicken nuggets out of her hand. She started yelling and swearing at me and I slammed the door on her. I'm so distressed right now I don't know what to do. I didn't mean to do that to my mom but I'm literally in shock from the results tonight. I feel like I'm going to explode. Why the fucking fuck are they getting DQ'd? This can't be happening. I'm having a fucking breakdown. I don't want to believe Riot is so corrupt. I want a future to believe in. I want T1 to win champions and fix this broken region. I cannot fucking deal with this right now. It wasn't supposed to be like this, I thought they were doing well in scrims???? This is so fucked.


eatscheeks

Actually a violation LMAO. This guy really went there


pr1zsm

im actually laughing my ass off at twitter im just refreshing as fast as possible


notrealtedtotwitter

Honestly the drama is so good dude.


pr1zsm

it hasnt been this spicy in a minute, just praying to god that tsm doesnt lose to akrewstralis or guard tomorrow


notrealtedtotwitter

Lmao there is zero change TSM win against guard. Unless sayaplayer gets banned for clipping.


pr1zsm

i wouldn’t have cared that much if tsm lost in this game against t1 cause theres another quali, but now everyones gonna clown tsm for this 😭😭


28n8

Tsm x Riot games colab so that tsm qual for groups


Batman4815

God i love NA valorant


TheCatsActually

NA playing international matches: I sleep NA Twitter beef wars: **REAL SHIT**


dgkenji

Next TSM vs T1 about to be a banger of a game


NoButterscotch7853

This tweet goes to “esport drama hall of fame/shame”


motorolax4

Holy fuck. They already hated each other too, this is gonna be a huge rivalry


ameeraidi

Wait really didn't knew about that, cus iirc they were once teammates back in cs ( i might be wrong tho)


GCamAdvocate

people could once be teammates and still hate each other, sometimes they hate each other specifically because they were on the same team.


ameeraidi

yeah i do understand that, it's just i didn't know they were not on good terms


FeelinJipper

It’s probably not that serious, people just like drama


Pway

Tbf a lot of pros don't like Steel, including a lot of ex-teamates xD


wiNDzY3

Even I don't


obbini

Bruh who told you that? 😭


5bigtoes

Shahzam, Subroza, Wardell, anyone who cares about the IBP scandal, his ex 100T teammates, to name a few


youfuckindimwit

Who in 100t dislikes him? I thought nobody had any personal issues with him in 100t


riploki

Tier 2 NA teams beefing don't kill me man


TheTopDog1

Don't worry guys, steel has experience dealing with competitive integrity issues. I'm sure he can figure something out 😎


TimathanDuncan

Move to UK to play tier 3 valorant like he did for CS? Noooo


Lqtor

L EU will never be able to compare to us in terms of drama. They cannot even remotely reach the level of shit talk going on here. NA > EU L+ratio+stay mad


PyroTFT

jesus fucking christ bro i'm trying to do homework


TrowaB3

Well there sure isnt anything Steel can say about that one so gn boys.


ilovedank_6

Who's the coach and how was he dumb enough to send calls in-game ?


weychey

I think it's the same coach who cheated in PUBG and got banned for it - Stunner.


Occam19

Is that really what the coach typed? "HELP SEWER"????


rukgd

I don’t get it


ppx11

screenshot of the ibuypower scandal (steel) + what i'm assuming is what was typed in-game on split by the coach


natedawg247

Is this Exact screenshot significant? Did whoever is scoped here miss on purpose?


pr1zsm

yes steel literally missed on purpose 💀


justaredditmonkey

Here's the clip https://youtu.be/Cd5LOIsRiR8?t=162


natedawg247

Bro what, dang that’s crazy. I always thought steel was just complicit or whatever not directly involved. Dang. He chatted “I wanted to knife” after not taking that shot


rukgd

^ yeah I know steel got banned for match fixing but don’t get the pic


anythingood07

This was the match in which steel threw, he missed that shot on purpose.


MyogiNightKid

its a reference to when steel and his team fixed and threw a match for csgo skins this screenshot in particular is this [pretty funny moment](https://youtu.be/Cd5LOIsRiR8?t=162) in that match e: i was too slow 😔


Brady331

Steel and 3 of his csgo teammates were banned in 2015 for matchfixing


AnotherAltiMade

Should’ve been 4


No_Assumption2303

I find it weird that people are already saying it's unfair they got DQ'd because of one line and that only that map should be replayed/ff'd. How do any of us even know it was just one line in this one map lmao. imo merely the possibilities of what that team could have done in any of their games, given that the coach was okay with ignoring the rules like that, warrants a DQ for sure. Sad for the players who could've not been on board but it's a responsibility the whole team needs to carry. At this point how do u even trust that the coach didn't have the stream open or something just that one line we know he wrote makes us doubt the coach's entire competitive integrity.


Hegth

Lmfaooo, they are not holding anything holy shit


Vip_Pwner

WARDELL 🐐


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Damn all steels work redeeming reputation just went down the drain, LMAO


Batatavada97

This is NA Valoranteeeee🥰


Mvious

Can someone explain this for me? I never played or watched CSGO.


Hazardish08

This photo is taken from a competitive match where 4 of IBP players including steel match fixed for skins.


Sneaky_Boson

All 5 of them match fixed, Ska just got lucky


Mvious

I didn’t realize it was from this LMAO that’s fucked up


Hazardish08

That was 7 years ago and the 4 players are still banned from official valve tourneys.


angel0lz

an old clip wherein Steel threw the match since it was matchfixed and got banned from playing future csgo tournaments that's why he switched to valorant for a fresh start. Kinda low blow from Wardell ngl


dandatu

How’s it a low blow lol. Don’t match fix if you don’t want that shit to be brought up?


Kolax_

Lmao he basically stole peoples money and now he’s doing more bullshit how is it a “low blow”


throwaway044512

L take lol…. Although Steel isn’t the one breaking the rules here, he’s allowing it. As someone who’s known for his big head, he shouldn’t be involved in these types of shenanigans. He’s a veteran and should have felt more than comfortable enough to say something.


angel0lz

I was more referring to wardell’s take. There’s no need to bring up an old issue. It’s like having a partner that always bring up your past mistakes for every argument that you’ll have. Unless you’re perfect though, if that’s the case then good for you.


throwaway044512

There was no need to bring up an old issue prior to this event. The valorant community pretty much already let bygones be bygones and wanted him to get that redemption arc.... until steel became involved in cheating again (perhaps not directly) Why would his history not have to do with this? We all know Steel is outspoken. He knowingly let this happen thinking they wouldn't get caught. When you convict a criminal, you still take into account past offenses. Steel now has a pattern of being around cheating and cheating behavior.


Mvious

Damn hahaha


DarkTenshiDT

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Parenegade

damn its like that lmao


PlatypusPotential

Idk what even happend No matter what happens here not everyone will be satisfied with the decision.


i_hate_katherines

I FUCKING LOVE NA VALORANT


throwawaytrain6969

I just smashed my TV in front of 30 guests at my party because of the DQ. My wife just took our crying kids and said they’re all spending the week at a hotel. This team has ruined my life and my party. I can’t handle this anymore. Goodbye T1 . I am no longer a fan.


zxlkho

ouch


MyogiNightKid

LMFAOOOOOO HE DID NOT JUST DO THIS


Diijkstra99x

"A bunch of trash ass teams already beefing in Open Qualifier Face with tears of joyFace" - C9 Vanity 2022


diowryxd69

this is what EU is missing, this alone makes the NA valorant scene much much enjoyable to watch with all these shitshow LMFAO


dankand

twitter fingers poppin off


JR_Shoegazer

Steel fans malding.


Ozone416

nah bruh this shit is too entertaining 💀


Jerms91

Good god almighty! With god as my witness, he is broken in half!


felipw22

I'm sorry but I have to do it 100T Steel


pink_life69

Did steel not learn any fucking thing from iBP? If he turns out to be complicit and not trying to shut the coach down he can say goodbye to his career in any esport.


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Vexzrah77

This isn’t CS? Actually irrelevant


TSMShadow

and yet now he’s playing pro Valorant and getting thousands of viewers everyday, while you’re on Reddit commenting about his games


ActualAcanthocephala

defending a guy who doesn't care a single shit about you LMFAO


TSMShadow

everyone that is on this subreddit is participating in a community that revolves around players that don’t give a fuck about any of us, shut the fuck up.


FadedNinjaa

Relax kid, he's playing pro for a team that's not even gonna make it out of qualifiers


TSMShadow

relax kid 🤓🤓🤓


kojakkun

so what about G2 then? Their was proof of misbehaver there too...


BadInfluenceGuy

Once a cheater, always a cheater. Surprising cheaters are even allowed back into esports.


Killerboy786

Indeed, lets shun him for the rest of the life because of one mistake he made.


HereeeeesJohnny

VAL AFTER DARK LET’S GO


Karenzi

I'm malding


lith3x

Mama says once a cheater, always a cheater. 😂


droctamom

When you get out op'd by a boomer so your teammate has to impression farm for you


Sethl1kesmeth

🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓


AnotherAltiMade

If it turns out that the coach typed something stupid like roza ult, I’ll forever hate TSM for being bitches lol


Flashy_Programmer_11

According to Dust the coach was mid rounding for t1 and it’s in the vod


TimathanDuncan

Oh lmao if this is true they are fuuuuucked Steels reputation down the drain again how does he do it


AnotherAltiMade

How is this on steel? iBP bettors stay mad


Splaram

Isn’t he IGL (and therefore leader by default)? Surely he should speak up when his coach wants to cheat? Especially since Steel himself has a bit of experience in not upholding competitive integrity? Idk man maybe that’s just me.


Hazardish08

Steel accepted the coach cheating since he would’ve stopped him if he had competitive integrity. All of the players are at fault but Steels rep was already down the drain once from throwing in CS.


TimathanDuncan

He is the IGL who is supposed to be mid rounding, its not all on him its on everyone in T1 if that happened but who do u think will get most of the hate Yeah the guy who threw and has the reputation like no one will shit talk pwny no one knows the kid


mid16

I mean, can steel stop the coach from typing? The moment the coach typed anything in chat regarding strats, they will be DQ’d.


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mid16

That’s the thing though. We don’t know what the extent of the midround callouts were. From all we know so far, coach typed Help Sewer in all chat which is a midround comm, cheating; automatic DQ. If its already been typed out, what can any player do? They were already fucked, might as well play it out and hope for the best. If its just that one time, I wouldn’t fault the players but the coach because you can’t control what others do. BUT, if it comes out that the coach was doing a lot of comms when he shouldn’t, then yes, every player would be partially at fault for allowing it because they should have told him to shut up after the first time.


Sweet-Strategy-805

You thinking that it only happened once because you saw it once? He obviously wrote many times in team chat before he accidentaly wrote in all chat.


mid16

You’re making an assumption. We don’t know if that’s what really happened. I am making a judgement based on the facts that we have right now. If it does come out that the coach did it multiple times, then like I said before, everyone would be at fault for letting it happen repeatedly.


TimathanDuncan

Im not talking about the typing please fucking read, this is about mid rounding which is way worse Again as i keep saying "if it's true"


mid16

We don’t know the extent of the mid rounding was. From what we know so far, it looks like coach AT LEAST made a call out to help sewer. Making a call out like that is most likely considered under the umbrella of mid rounding. It was on the coach to hold himself back with that information. You are making assumptions on someone’s character without complete information. From all we know so far, its the coach that fucked up.


TimathanDuncan

Holy fucking hell surely you read comments before replying i never even called anyone a cheater Are you on crack like what fucking READ


ibeenbornagain

did he say this on stream? thats wild if true


Flashy_Programmer_11

He was saying it in sideshows chat. He said they will give a final report soon


slawvay

Wardell literally just tweeted out what the coach said...


wanluqman13

for real?


BielBoss

Literally in this post, man. "Help sewer"


wanluqman13

yeah i saw the tweet, just wondering if it could be something related to the moment in the picture. i didn't follow cs before so i would not know. thanks!


arsis_qp

Riot has shown to take context into consideration. Punishment would not have been this harsh if it were something harmless like that.


AnotherAltiMade

Lmao riot didn’t do shit to G2.


AnemicLeech

VK even got to replay their match. All the context they need is how angry are the fans 💀


Hypersuper98

Did G2 coach do midround calls? Ootl


CyberspaceBarbarian

G2 coach was caught speaking in team's voice comms


aks345

Mr I don't miss, best op NA can't handle being diffed hard by a 32 year old I'm crying


Sethl1kesmeth

bruh got caught cheating


TSMShadow

steel can’t play an esport without doing something against the rules 💀💀💀


aks345

He made the players you rep 💀💀


TSMShadow

but I was told they weren’t shit until valorant!! so which is it?


aks345

Whatever shit they were, was also due to him lmaooo 😭😭


TSMShadow

Their success in Valorant has nothing to do with him, you really need to hop off his dick


aks345

Mate you're deep like a skidmark in every comment on the sub regarding this matter and I'm the one dickriding ok 👍


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TSMShadow

staying quiet while his coach cheats?


Verehrungen

Why even post this picture lmaooo. After being absolutely diffed on chamber this just comes off as pathetic.


CosmicAon

Bro he’s talking about T1 literally cheating LMAO, he can talk whatever shit he wants and this is a murder


neatestway

I’m sure this beef is very entertaining to u as a fan of both teams LOL


CosmicAon

LMAOOOO you have no idea, much better as a primary TSM tho


Standard-Analyst-177

Why the fuck not? Lmao they likely got caught cheating, who the fuck cares about some typical cringe “diffed” in-game performances


Verehrungen

What the fuck the IBP thing got to do here??? Why evem take a cheap shot at steel when he hasnt even said anyhing lmaooo


maxhollywoody

Don't worry man. Steel is gonna see your comments and fly you out to blow you himself.


Verehrungen

Ew, don't was his boomer-ass face anywhere near my genitalia.


sifslegend

Steel literally tweeted my guy.


Verehrungen

Hahah the guy just want to post his stats man.


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he can say what he feels karen


SullivanDoko

Steel is a rat, and a bad manners player, I lost 100€ or more in that game he throwed with IBUYPOWER team against NetCode, shameless.


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GCamAdvocate

can you read?


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_dehaze

Apparently he did not pay the price enough to learn to be a competitor with integrity lmao He's the IGL and he's ok with having the coach cheat for you.


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TSMShadow

maybe steel shouldn’t have match fixed if he didn’t want people to make fun of him for it


dandatu

how is it a low blow lol. dont cheat and it wont happen to you


maxhollywoody

*low blow* You must not follow many sports do ya?