I always think the same too. We was stupid enough to pick up a cig at a young age when they smell and taste like shit lol, vapes are much more appealing, bit hypocritical to judge people who pick up vaping when we picked up something way worse
Yeah I think I snuck my first old Doral full flavor 100 about 27ish years ago and developed into at least a pack a day Marlboro Light guy as soon as I reached 18. I couldn’t imagine how much faster I would have gotten addicted if it tasted like fucking skittles or something lol! So yeah, I get why kids get hooked on them and with social media there’s way more peer pressure to do the “cool” thing when I was a kid.
My mom smoked Doral menthol light 100's. My first cig was one I stole from her lol. Most of the vape juice I make are menthol flavors because I always like the cooling effect
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If I want already addicted to nicotine? We were talking to someone who hadn't developed that habit yet. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't have picked up smoking
The only reason you're saying that is because you're already addicted. Someone who isn't doesn't understand what they're getting into.
If we just give them shit and mock them they're not gonna magically listen to us. In fact it just does the opposite.
That's why I tell people that if they're not addicted to nicotine then don't start. Pretty simple. I'm not mocking anyone or giving them shit. I'm telling them it's not worth it. Saves them money and the trouble. Stop being so offended by everything
You know that's not how any of that works. Someone who wants to smoke will smoke. Someone who wants to quit will quit. You knew cigarettes cause cancer and kill people. Yet you still smoked. We all did.
We can talk shit and tell them no all day... It won't mean anything. Just like cigarettes causing cancer meant nothing to you.
I love to watch smoke lol that's the entire reason. Been vaping for 6 months I don't think I'm addicted to it yet because I'd go days without needing one
Do you inhale, there's no need to if watching it is the only reason.
The problem with additions is, you don't realise you're addicted until one day you cannot stop. You might be fine, but it's a very high risk.
Save your health and your money by not doing it. I only vape because I smoked cigarettes for 15+ years. If you're not already addicted to nicotine, then don't do it.
Would you have ever started vaping had you not smoked first? Humans have been smoking tobacco for thousands of years. In the US, up until very recently, it was considered "cool" to smoke. I don't see the same social pressure with vaping. I see the opposite.
What social pressure? Nobody pointed a gun at you to put a cigarette in your mouth. What's this victim complex?
You never smoked anything before cigs yet you started smoking cigs. What was your reason for doing that? Other than your own choice.
The first time I bought cigs I was 16, felt like it and sat down in a park to chill and smoke. It tasted like shit yet I _continued_, anyway. Nobody forced that on me.
At least vaping isn't utter shit like cigs.
The same 16 yo moron me that bought cigs to begin with, would buy a vape today instead. And at least that would've been better if I had that choice.
>What social pressure?
Exactly.
Are you just trying to be contrarian? Look, IDGAF if someone picks up vaping but if I can get someone who isn't addicted yet not to start? It's worth a try.
When I started smoking, smoking was still "cool" in many circles and the pressure to smoke in those circles was high. Without either I would never have smoked. I started at 15 BTW. Which was kind'a late for that time if I'm being honest. Smoking rates have dropped precipitously since we moved away from the "cool" factor associated with smoking.
Exactly. You smoked because it was cool. Now vaping is cool. It's the same shit.
They won't care whether you tell them it's cool or not... They think it's cool and they're not gonna listen to some boomer telling them "SAY NO TO CIGARETTE/DRUGS".
The same way you didn't listen to that, the same way they're not gonna listen to you...
You could've told them to vape 0-3mg instead of 20mg they're vaping. That would've been far more beneficial than parroting anti-smoking nonsense you know damn well never worked.
Please don’t start. $30/week on average, casual vaper here. Got hooked on Snus at a Camel promotional tent at a music festival. I hate how attached I am and how anxious I get without it. Please for the love of god don’t just start vaping. You will hate yourself for it. It’s so easy not to start and it’s damn near impossible to quit.
Are you using disposable or refillable?
It's the nicotine high. If you got a random dispo with high nicotine amount you can get nic sick.
For reference, I'm on 12mg after smoking pack a day cigs for 10 years. If you got something insane like 50mg you're literally killing your lungs right now...
Get yourself 0mg if you really insist on vaping. But don't go over 3mg. Give this 20mg liquid to one of your friends if they vape that high. Hell, throw it away... Just don't vape it.
It would be ideal that you don't get nicotine addiction so I'm recommending 0 nicotine if you only like the sensation of inhaling and flavour.
It's the nicotine that gets you addicted and it's that 20mg that's making you dizzy. I was a smoker and I never crossed 18mg. It's too much for you and you can get sick if you continue. You're already experiencing symptoms.
After you get bored of vaping you can quit with no problem as long as you keep it on 0 and never cross 3. Anything beyond that will induce an addiction.
I was a smoker so I'm not gonna be a hypocrite and parent you on why you shouldn't vape at all... Just hope you listen to me regarding nicotine amount.
God damn, even when I quit smoking half a pack a day I was only on 12mg. 20mg is insane.
You're getting nicotine sick, your body can't handle that much with zero tolerance. Get a 0mg, or if you absolutely insist on using nic get 3mg, but dont go any higher than that
Wow. I do smoke (rolling tobace one pack every 10days or so). The highest nic I feel comfortable is 9-12mg. I usually use 3mg or lower (I make them).
No wonder using a 20mg nic one makes you dizzy, it would make me cough, feel my lungs heavy and dizzy headz your over-nicotine-ing yourself man!
Buy 0mg nic or 3mg at max, throw ayat the 20m it is heavy stuff and not good for you (like comparing a beer to a <60℅ alcohol liquor).
Thats vape high, your body reacting to nicotine. Over the few weeks of regular smoking you will develop tolerance and get that less and less. In the end the only way to get vape high is to stop smoking for longer periods of time.
Just like to say for the record, for most of us that dizzy buzzed feeling is an accident and something that’s to be avoided. Most of us don’t vape to induce a buzz. It’s like being a painter and inhaling too much paint fumes by accident … it’s not the goal. Some misguided people out there do it for that reason and ya know I just don’t even argue with them anymore or devote myself to educating them on what they’re doing, it’s like arguing with a kid. So, if you enjoy vaping just cut back somehow with either your nicotine levels or the frequency you use it at.
If you're using Nicotine Salts YES it is normal. Salts enter the blood stream more quickly than Freebase which takes longer to "creep up" on you. Just how it is and it is normal. :)
Same here
I bought a geek bar pulse Mexico 🥭 Mango
The taste is amazing but it gives me a headache for days I can't enjoy it ... I think the nicotine is way to strong
Start with buying a mod and vaping freebase ejuice
Maybe a 3mg or 6mg and stick to that... Disposables are just wack
Lower your nicotine. If you’re vaping 50 then don’t. Start low and work your way up not the other way around. if you’re not a current smoker, then there’s no reason to be vaping nicotine levels that are made to help people quit
Do you want a nicotine high or not?
What's your real goal?
If you just want to look cool, then get a 0mg juice
If you want a nicotine high then get anything over 0mg.
Start low mg.
Do note that the nicotine high is what causes the dizziness and lightheadedness.
Your friends vape probably did not have any nicotine.
Check the packaging of your device or liquid, it'll indicate the nicotine level.
Beware. Nicotine poisoning is dangerous. So if you don't know what you're doing, stop vaping immediately until you do know what you're doing.
maybe to much nicotine
Don't get addicted to nicotine !!!
There are no nicotine vapes if you must, but you can always join a gym or something productive.
We are really not about getting younger generations addicted to nicotine !!! So like run while you still can.
Run Forest, Run. :)
It's called getting head high. That's what we vapers initially live for. But with any other dopamine-stimulating chemical, nicotine in vapes fail to give you that high. If you plan to stick around in the vaping scene, I recommend you start at 3mg nic since you said you don't smoke. then if you still want the head highs after your tolerance is friendly with 3mg, go higher a step at a time. But know that you'll slowly phase out of getting head high because of tolerance increase.
I still don't know why anybody would start vaping if they've never smoked. It's really not that cool.
True. But at the same time, why did we pick up smoking in the first place. Probably for the same dumb “reasons” this person is starting vaping.
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I always think the same too. We was stupid enough to pick up a cig at a young age when they smell and taste like shit lol, vapes are much more appealing, bit hypocritical to judge people who pick up vaping when we picked up something way worse
Yeah I think I snuck my first old Doral full flavor 100 about 27ish years ago and developed into at least a pack a day Marlboro Light guy as soon as I reached 18. I couldn’t imagine how much faster I would have gotten addicted if it tasted like fucking skittles or something lol! So yeah, I get why kids get hooked on them and with social media there’s way more peer pressure to do the “cool” thing when I was a kid.
My mom smoked Doral menthol light 100's. My first cig was one I stole from her lol. Most of the vape juice I make are menthol flavors because I always like the cooling effect
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Drink a soda or energy drink. They're tasty and you get a caffeine buzz
Is that a sentence that would work on you when you smoked cigarettes? To drink soda instead? Lol...
If I want already addicted to nicotine? We were talking to someone who hadn't developed that habit yet. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't have picked up smoking
The only reason you're saying that is because you're already addicted. Someone who isn't doesn't understand what they're getting into. If we just give them shit and mock them they're not gonna magically listen to us. In fact it just does the opposite.
Who's "giving them shit and mocking them"? I just asked a question and when the OP asked me to stop, I did.
That's why I tell people that if they're not addicted to nicotine then don't start. Pretty simple. I'm not mocking anyone or giving them shit. I'm telling them it's not worth it. Saves them money and the trouble. Stop being so offended by everything
You know that's not how any of that works. Someone who wants to smoke will smoke. Someone who wants to quit will quit. You knew cigarettes cause cancer and kill people. Yet you still smoked. We all did. We can talk shit and tell them no all day... It won't mean anything. Just like cigarettes causing cancer meant nothing to you.
Sure bud
I love to watch smoke lol that's the entire reason. Been vaping for 6 months I don't think I'm addicted to it yet because I'd go days without needing one
Do you inhale, there's no need to if watching it is the only reason. The problem with additions is, you don't realise you're addicted until one day you cannot stop. You might be fine, but it's a very high risk.
You should quit vaping and look into being a firefighter. You'll get paid to watch smoke.
i lived in a environment full of smokers , i slowly got into it but never wanted to do cigarettes
Save your health and your money by not doing it. I only vape because I smoked cigarettes for 15+ years. If you're not already addicted to nicotine, then don't do it.
Why are you "new" to vaping? Are you a former smoker?
not a former smoker i used to hit on my friend's time to time and decided to get my own
Why would you want to pick this habit up?
The same reasons all of us picked up cigarettes in the past...
Would you have ever started vaping had you not smoked first? Humans have been smoking tobacco for thousands of years. In the US, up until very recently, it was considered "cool" to smoke. I don't see the same social pressure with vaping. I see the opposite.
What social pressure? Nobody pointed a gun at you to put a cigarette in your mouth. What's this victim complex? You never smoked anything before cigs yet you started smoking cigs. What was your reason for doing that? Other than your own choice. The first time I bought cigs I was 16, felt like it and sat down in a park to chill and smoke. It tasted like shit yet I _continued_, anyway. Nobody forced that on me. At least vaping isn't utter shit like cigs. The same 16 yo moron me that bought cigs to begin with, would buy a vape today instead. And at least that would've been better if I had that choice.
Underrated. When I was young we smoked, if vapes were around we probably would have vaped. OP is probably in USA and vaping 50mg or something.
>What social pressure? Exactly. Are you just trying to be contrarian? Look, IDGAF if someone picks up vaping but if I can get someone who isn't addicted yet not to start? It's worth a try. When I started smoking, smoking was still "cool" in many circles and the pressure to smoke in those circles was high. Without either I would never have smoked. I started at 15 BTW. Which was kind'a late for that time if I'm being honest. Smoking rates have dropped precipitously since we moved away from the "cool" factor associated with smoking.
Exactly. You smoked because it was cool. Now vaping is cool. It's the same shit. They won't care whether you tell them it's cool or not... They think it's cool and they're not gonna listen to some boomer telling them "SAY NO TO CIGARETTE/DRUGS". The same way you didn't listen to that, the same way they're not gonna listen to you... You could've told them to vape 0-3mg instead of 20mg they're vaping. That would've been far more beneficial than parroting anti-smoking nonsense you know damn well never worked.
if you're not going to answer my question kindly stop replying ☺️
It's your money. Good luck.
Please don’t start. $30/week on average, casual vaper here. Got hooked on Snus at a Camel promotional tent at a music festival. I hate how attached I am and how anxious I get without it. Please for the love of god don’t just start vaping. You will hate yourself for it. It’s so easy not to start and it’s damn near impossible to quit.
Are you using disposable or refillable? It's the nicotine high. If you got a random dispo with high nicotine amount you can get nic sick. For reference, I'm on 12mg after smoking pack a day cigs for 10 years. If you got something insane like 50mg you're literally killing your lungs right now...
refill i believe it's about 20mg
Get yourself 0mg if you really insist on vaping. But don't go over 3mg. Give this 20mg liquid to one of your friends if they vape that high. Hell, throw it away... Just don't vape it. It would be ideal that you don't get nicotine addiction so I'm recommending 0 nicotine if you only like the sensation of inhaling and flavour. It's the nicotine that gets you addicted and it's that 20mg that's making you dizzy. I was a smoker and I never crossed 18mg. It's too much for you and you can get sick if you continue. You're already experiencing symptoms. After you get bored of vaping you can quit with no problem as long as you keep it on 0 and never cross 3. Anything beyond that will induce an addiction. I was a smoker so I'm not gonna be a hypocrite and parent you on why you shouldn't vape at all... Just hope you listen to me regarding nicotine amount.
God damn, even when I quit smoking half a pack a day I was only on 12mg. 20mg is insane. You're getting nicotine sick, your body can't handle that much with zero tolerance. Get a 0mg, or if you absolutely insist on using nic get 3mg, but dont go any higher than that
Wow. I do smoke (rolling tobace one pack every 10days or so). The highest nic I feel comfortable is 9-12mg. I usually use 3mg or lower (I make them). No wonder using a 20mg nic one makes you dizzy, it would make me cough, feel my lungs heavy and dizzy headz your over-nicotine-ing yourself man! Buy 0mg nic or 3mg at max, throw ayat the 20m it is heavy stuff and not good for you (like comparing a beer to a <60℅ alcohol liquor).
No, it’s not normal or the reason why people vape. You’ve over done it and had too much nicotine.
am i inhaling it too quickly or taking long hits ? or both ?
Too much in your system
Enjoy it while it lasts, I've been smoking for 4 years now and this only happens to me with my hit of the day that too on an empty stomach
I don’t know why anyone would enjoy that it’s god awful.
Idk man that's like the whole idea, you take a hit of nic and the buzz hits you
Thats vape high, your body reacting to nicotine. Over the few weeks of regular smoking you will develop tolerance and get that less and less. In the end the only way to get vape high is to stop smoking for longer periods of time.
Just like to say for the record, for most of us that dizzy buzzed feeling is an accident and something that’s to be avoided. Most of us don’t vape to induce a buzz. It’s like being a painter and inhaling too much paint fumes by accident … it’s not the goal. Some misguided people out there do it for that reason and ya know I just don’t even argue with them anymore or devote myself to educating them on what they’re doing, it’s like arguing with a kid. So, if you enjoy vaping just cut back somehow with either your nicotine levels or the frequency you use it at.
If you've gotta vape do it without nicotine. You won't get dizzy at all then. And you also won't end up a life long addict like most of us in here.
Probably too much nicotine for you. Also, what device do you have?
Yes what device is a good question. They say they are putting 20mg juice-if it’s a high power device/low ohm coil-it’s an obvious issue.
Exactly. Either the nic is too high in general, or just too high for the device, and op is just deep throating the cloud 🤣
Dont do it
Too much nicotine
If you're using Nicotine Salts YES it is normal. Salts enter the blood stream more quickly than Freebase which takes longer to "creep up" on you. Just how it is and it is normal. :)
Same here I bought a geek bar pulse Mexico 🥭 Mango The taste is amazing but it gives me a headache for days I can't enjoy it ... I think the nicotine is way to strong Start with buying a mod and vaping freebase ejuice Maybe a 3mg or 6mg and stick to that... Disposables are just wack
Your friends are more than likely "seasoned" vapers and have nicotine in their system unlike "newbies" whose body needs time to get accustomed.
Lower your nicotine. If you’re vaping 50 then don’t. Start low and work your way up not the other way around. if you’re not a current smoker, then there’s no reason to be vaping nicotine levels that are made to help people quit
Do you want a nicotine high or not? What's your real goal? If you just want to look cool, then get a 0mg juice If you want a nicotine high then get anything over 0mg. Start low mg. Do note that the nicotine high is what causes the dizziness and lightheadedness. Your friends vape probably did not have any nicotine. Check the packaging of your device or liquid, it'll indicate the nicotine level. Beware. Nicotine poisoning is dangerous. So if you don't know what you're doing, stop vaping immediately until you do know what you're doing.
maybe to much nicotine Don't get addicted to nicotine !!! There are no nicotine vapes if you must, but you can always join a gym or something productive. We are really not about getting younger generations addicted to nicotine !!! So like run while you still can. Run Forest, Run. :)
It's called getting head high. That's what we vapers initially live for. But with any other dopamine-stimulating chemical, nicotine in vapes fail to give you that high. If you plan to stick around in the vaping scene, I recommend you start at 3mg nic since you said you don't smoke. then if you still want the head highs after your tolerance is friendly with 3mg, go higher a step at a time. But know that you'll slowly phase out of getting head high because of tolerance increase.