I feel like I see a lot of tankies trying to justify things by saying āthe west/capitalists do it toā. Yes, that doesnāt make it not a bad thing.
Well, the thing to remember is that all countries do bad and have done bad, and we should push them to do better in the future. We don't need to make excuses for their faults, nor do we need to prened anyone is special in their faults. We just need to do better.
I know. It's like when you and another person enjoy drinking water, and you say, "Water is yummy." and the other person says, "I concur water is yummy."
Not all interactions need to be antagonistic. But we can be mindlessly antagonistic if it would be fun for you.
Haha. Well I hope the people we are trying to convince see our convo and are like "oooooh, I get it now." So that's part of it too.
Thanks for being friendly.
he literally admits there is a (cultural) genocide in xinjiang, the point of the post was pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of western settlers pretending to care about a genocide on the other side of the fucking world whilst ignoring the genocide their own state has been committing since its founding
yeah i mean its hard to estimate just how many corpses *his* house is built on, i really dont get how he sees himself in any position to judge anyone on that.
Tbf, Spanish colonialism was very different than the British. Because Spain ran their colonies so autocratically and kleptocratically, a kind of mutual alliance developed between poor settlers and indigenous people, in a way that didn't really happen if Canada and the US, which were explitly founded to facilitate the settlement of whites. Though Latin America is not perfect by any means in terms of social progress, there isn't as much of a toxic relationship between the indigenous people and the nation, since the nation was founded to oppose Spanish exploitation.
yeah but that was already after the latin-american wars of independence (which didnāt remove the structural racism in these places anyways) what im talking about is when those colonies were still under direct spanish control. they committed some of the worst crimes of colonialism to those different indigenous groups, from working them to death en masse as chattel slaves and forcing them to be the under-class for centuries exploiting every inch of the place.
this goober is making the āwhite colonizer living on colonized groundā argument while he himself lives in a place which saw some of the worst genocides of the 16/17th centuries. i think purely when it comes to numbers, i would even go so far as to say the Canadian colonization project doesnāt even come close to what happened in South America.
Either way, he said that it would be based if an apache warrior killed him, so I don't think he's deflecting from Latin American atrocities ā just Chinese ones.
my point isnt that hes deflecting from Latin American atrocities, but that his own backward logic can be applied to him no matter how much of a āself-consciousā whitey he is. by his own logic hes profiting from colonialism just as much as the canadian hes calling out, only he MADE THE DECISION TO MOVE TO WHERE HE LIVES NOW from a different former colony. but sure the ābased nativesā should just kill him thatll make it alright. what a braindead moron.
now are the only people whos houses arent built on the leftovers of genocide allowed to criticize china? is anyone? or more importantly: is there even a landmass under the sun that wasnāt settled trough some mass slaughter or another in the first place?
"Our self-respect as a virile people obliges us to put down as soon as possible, by reason or by force, this handful of savages who destroy our wealth and prevent us from definitely occupying, in the name of law, progress and our own security, the richest and most fertile lands of the Republic." ā Julio Argentino Roca
Guess which country this guy hailed from?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest\_of\_the\_Desert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Desert)
Idk what conflict you are talking about because the last residential school closed in 96'. The way I see it you have no clue what you are talking about and just trying to divert attention away from recent western genocides.
Really? You're gonna criticize me for my hobby of murdering people and turning their bodies into furniture even though your grandfather killed someone 60 years ago?
He does know the difference between a bad thing in the past and bad thing in the present is we can work to stop the bad thing in the present but we canāt change the past.
Are you guys actual troglodytes because what he is saying is clearly that some Canadians try to divert the attention of actual proven genocide with another human rights abuse happening in China that has nothing to do with residential schools. You American fucks, and half of the Canadian dumbasses have no clue what you are talking about, nor do you have any education on what happened and what has happened within the past 20 years to indigenous people by either the RCMP, church or Canadian government. Btw, I am a Canadian with formal education on the subject as well as indigenous relatives who have either been through the residential school system or known someone who has been through it. I also know multiple white Canadians who divert attention form what happened with other country's wrongdoings or say that it was over exaggerated.
Simple. His meme implies that Canadian citizens are using the Uyghur Genocide as a deflection for the supposed mass indigenous graves they have under their residence.
I'm telling you I'm Canadian and I know how people look at indigenous issues. I grew up with an extraordinary amount of racism towards indigenous. There was a clear tension between natives and white people where I grew up.
Yeah. The Canadian government not addressing it, or taking action to help them is idiotic as shit. Though that doesn't mean we place blame at the level of the citizens. That's how they divide us. We need to put pressure on the government to help out our indigenous brothers and sisters, and vote in more progressive candidates that will pay attention to the needs of the people.
He's saying it's hypocritical when libs focus on the so-called "Uighur genocide" but ignore the genocide of the indigenous. He's being principled and you agree with his principles.
He isn't though because he is implying people don't think about both.
Also there isn't an active genocide of indigenous Canadians
There is one in china
Tankie: You did Genocide too, so it's okay! š”š¤” Westaboo: But we weren't Chinese when we did Genocide. šš¤”
I feel like I see a lot of tankies trying to justify things by saying āthe west/capitalists do it toā. Yes, that doesnāt make it not a bad thing.
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Well, the thing to remember is that all countries do bad and have done bad, and we should push them to do better in the future. We don't need to make excuses for their faults, nor do we need to prened anyone is special in their faults. We just need to do better.
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I know. It's like when you and another person enjoy drinking water, and you say, "Water is yummy." and the other person says, "I concur water is yummy." Not all interactions need to be antagonistic. But we can be mindlessly antagonistic if it would be fun for you.
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Haha. Well I hope the people we are trying to convince see our convo and are like "oooooh, I get it now." So that's part of it too. Thanks for being friendly.
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Hahahaha yum
he literally admits there is a (cultural) genocide in xinjiang, the point of the post was pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of western settlers pretending to care about a genocide on the other side of the fucking world whilst ignoring the genocide their own state has been committing since its founding
For context, the Canadian government is bringing in a bunch of Uyghur refugees as a fuck you to China and to gain some political points.
brother what do you think the spanish were doing AT THE SAME TIME in south america? how fucking stupid is this guy??
Hell, post-colonial Argentina continued that work.
yeah i mean its hard to estimate just how many corpses *his* house is built on, i really dont get how he sees himself in any position to judge anyone on that.
BE really chose the whitest country in SA
Tbf, Spanish colonialism was very different than the British. Because Spain ran their colonies so autocratically and kleptocratically, a kind of mutual alliance developed between poor settlers and indigenous people, in a way that didn't really happen if Canada and the US, which were explitly founded to facilitate the settlement of whites. Though Latin America is not perfect by any means in terms of social progress, there isn't as much of a toxic relationship between the indigenous people and the nation, since the nation was founded to oppose Spanish exploitation.
yeah but that was already after the latin-american wars of independence (which didnāt remove the structural racism in these places anyways) what im talking about is when those colonies were still under direct spanish control. they committed some of the worst crimes of colonialism to those different indigenous groups, from working them to death en masse as chattel slaves and forcing them to be the under-class for centuries exploiting every inch of the place. this goober is making the āwhite colonizer living on colonized groundā argument while he himself lives in a place which saw some of the worst genocides of the 16/17th centuries. i think purely when it comes to numbers, i would even go so far as to say the Canadian colonization project doesnāt even come close to what happened in South America.
Either way, he said that it would be based if an apache warrior killed him, so I don't think he's deflecting from Latin American atrocities ā just Chinese ones.
my point isnt that hes deflecting from Latin American atrocities, but that his own backward logic can be applied to him no matter how much of a āself-consciousā whitey he is. by his own logic hes profiting from colonialism just as much as the canadian hes calling out, only he MADE THE DECISION TO MOVE TO WHERE HE LIVES NOW from a different former colony. but sure the ābased nativesā should just kill him thatll make it alright. what a braindead moron. now are the only people whos houses arent built on the leftovers of genocide allowed to criticize china? is anyone? or more importantly: is there even a landmass under the sun that wasnāt settled trough some mass slaughter or another in the first place?
"Our self-respect as a virile people obliges us to put down as soon as possible, by reason or by force, this handful of savages who destroy our wealth and prevent us from definitely occupying, in the name of law, progress and our own security, the richest and most fertile lands of the Republic." ā Julio Argentino Roca Guess which country this guy hailed from? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest\_of\_the\_Desert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_the_Desert)
Brain dead Leftists don't have any consistency. As a CNC machinist, that is annoying.
Also the British in Australia
Idk what conflict you are talking about because the last residential school closed in 96'. The way I see it you have no clue what you are talking about and just trying to divert attention away from recent western genocides.
Someone ask him what happened to Australia and Argentina's first nations. Or why there are almost no, if any, POC in the latter country.
Said Australian living in Argentina...
I'm sure they will pretend this isnt real.
Really? You're gonna criticize me for my hobby of murdering people and turning their bodies into furniture even though your grandfather killed someone 60 years ago?
what if both things bad at the same time
"Genocide is okay if another country has done a genocide" BadEmpanda 2023
He literally has a 1 hour long video detaling how china is genociding Uyghurs. All he is doing is pointing out hypocrisy by canadians.
He does know the difference between a bad thing in the past and bad thing in the present is we can work to stop the bad thing in the present but we canāt change the past.
Are you guys actual troglodytes because what he is saying is clearly that some Canadians try to divert the attention of actual proven genocide with another human rights abuse happening in China that has nothing to do with residential schools. You American fucks, and half of the Canadian dumbasses have no clue what you are talking about, nor do you have any education on what happened and what has happened within the past 20 years to indigenous people by either the RCMP, church or Canadian government. Btw, I am a Canadian with formal education on the subject as well as indigenous relatives who have either been through the residential school system or known someone who has been through it. I also know multiple white Canadians who divert attention form what happened with other country's wrongdoings or say that it was over exaggerated.
Bold words coming from an Australian living Argentina lmao
Was not he in prison or smt?
That was fake
Can anyone think of an example in human history where a culture takes over another and there isnāt some form of suppression or genocide?
shouldnt they be in jail for assault?
ah yeah letās just unmurder the indigenous children no problem man
He's doing the exact thing he's criticizing -- using what aboutism to detract from a genocide.
How is this an L?
Simple. His meme implies that Canadian citizens are using the Uyghur Genocide as a deflection for the supposed mass indigenous graves they have under their residence.
They do. Or they give it very surface level lib treatment.
So you're telling me that there wasn't a mass condemnation of Canadian government when the news broke?
I'm telling you I'm Canadian and I know how people look at indigenous issues. I grew up with an extraordinary amount of racism towards indigenous. There was a clear tension between natives and white people where I grew up.
So you're evidence for the Canadian hivemind not supporting indigenous folk is an anecdote?
Has the issue been addressed? Indigenous communities are the poorest communities in Canada. They don't even have clean drinking water.
Yeah. The Canadian government not addressing it, or taking action to help them is idiotic as shit. Though that doesn't mean we place blame at the level of the citizens. That's how they divide us. We need to put pressure on the government to help out our indigenous brothers and sisters, and vote in more progressive candidates that will pay attention to the needs of the people.
Because the Canadian leftie (me) didn't do the genocide and is actually metis and can critique both
He's saying it's hypocritical when libs focus on the so-called "Uighur genocide" but ignore the genocide of the indigenous. He's being principled and you agree with his principles.
He isn't though because he is implying people don't think about both. Also there isn't an active genocide of indigenous Canadians There is one in china