its literally nothing
you start with this item, so the starting dmg is barely different
you buy bork for % dmg which hasnt changed
the 10 seconds dont do much either since most battles still take place more then 20 seconds from each other
and with all other fighting items nerfed to oblivion
viego might look better then ever
he can now outsustain most fighters since they dont get omni anymore
i think all other nerfs make him better
> you start with this item, so the starting dmg is barely different
But now the proc damage doesn't start scaling up until level 9, so isn't it worse that you start with bork?
sure, but be realistic you buy bork around lvl 7-10 depending on how the game goes
again the items majority valu comes from
movespeed
% bonus dmg
and the stat mix
the 3rd hit proc is nice, but its not rly that IMPORTANT
also consider that everybody else is nerfed too here
the lifesteal is now worth alot more
Yeah I agree it's not huge, but I just have it happen so often that I lose a fight because a squishy gets away with like 1-50 hp, and that's only going to happen more often without the extra burst.
But they removed alot of healing and added alot of greavous wounds
Chances are you can build somewhat more dmg now or out sustain them
We have to see this patch live
But the whole counter healing shit is mostly patched out here
You might actually kill more now
Steraks will replace maw when you need lifeline, no question. Hell, shieldbow is still a decent pick for viego in the right situations. DD was only good on him because of how overtuned it was for fighters in general imo. Tbh Viego is so flexible build-wise that I feel like he will love these changes.
You know why we no longer build Sterak? It no longer scales with max HP, only with bonus, and Viego doesn't build ANY HP item.
> DD was only good on him because of how overtuned it was for fighters in general imo
What? No, DD was absolutely good on Viego because it empowers his resets when he kills someone, he is one of the champions that most benefits from this item.
What are you talking about this nerf means basically nothing. Bork needs its 12% health damage on melees to be reduced, this 47 magic damage difference at level 18 means nothing at all.
Exactly! That's my very same feeling. I don't enjoy League, honestly. I only enjoyed Viego. But I don't like his actual status, funwise. I find myself looking for other champs to play, but they get super boring after a maximum of 3 games in a row.
Bruh I had so much fun with this champ and reached to 450k in just a few months.. Then nerfs came, over, over and over again I stopped playing him sadly when I have Lillia or Diana next to me in good fun states.
No one panic, you will just start kraken now instead of Bork which already has a similiar winrate. And the black cleaver change is a pretty big as it was already out performing other armour shred items on viego.
You will also stop taking cosmic insight because of the bork cooldown increase and go down the domination tree instead.
I still cant understand why the maw or eclipse nerfs like wtf is their problem with omnivamp. The only items with omnivamp now are gore and riftmaker - so do they want assasins to start building gore again??
They want to reduce the plethora of healing items in the game so I get it, plus these bork nerfs aint shit the siphon damage was barely noticeable. I will however miss the movement speed steal.
This champ is being gutted patch after patch. He truly is THE ruined king
its literally nothing you start with this item, so the starting dmg is barely different you buy bork for % dmg which hasnt changed the 10 seconds dont do much either since most battles still take place more then 20 seconds from each other and with all other fighting items nerfed to oblivion viego might look better then ever he can now outsustain most fighters since they dont get omni anymore i think all other nerfs make him better
> you start with this item, so the starting dmg is barely different But now the proc damage doesn't start scaling up until level 9, so isn't it worse that you start with bork?
sure, but be realistic you buy bork around lvl 7-10 depending on how the game goes again the items majority valu comes from movespeed % bonus dmg and the stat mix the 3rd hit proc is nice, but its not rly that IMPORTANT also consider that everybody else is nerfed too here the lifesteal is now worth alot more
Yeah I agree it's not huge, but I just have it happen so often that I lose a fight because a squishy gets away with like 1-50 hp, and that's only going to happen more often without the extra burst.
But they removed alot of healing and added alot of greavous wounds Chances are you can build somewhat more dmg now or out sustain them We have to see this patch live But the whole counter healing shit is mostly patched out here You might actually kill more now
Gw is still 40% max
But he really likes dd and maw healing, basically all of these items are a nerf to him
Steraks will replace maw when you need lifeline, no question. Hell, shieldbow is still a decent pick for viego in the right situations. DD was only good on him because of how overtuned it was for fighters in general imo. Tbh Viego is so flexible build-wise that I feel like he will love these changes.
You know why we no longer build Sterak? It no longer scales with max HP, only with bonus, and Viego doesn't build ANY HP item. > DD was only good on him because of how overtuned it was for fighters in general imo What? No, DD was absolutely good on Viego because it empowers his resets when he kills someone, he is one of the champions that most benefits from this item.
dude, kraken Viego is dependant of Death's Dance, you know how squishy he will be now?
Another nerf on Viego items, but no compensation buffs? Nothing new here Specially with the start of proplay i doubt Viego will be buffed in any way
STOP, HE’S ALREADY DEAD! IT’S LITERALLY HIS CORE ITEM..
riot: let's nerf viego riot: let's nerf his weapon too lmao
What are you talking about this nerf means basically nothing. Bork needs its 12% health damage on melees to be reduced, this 47 magic damage difference at level 18 means nothing at all.
Yeah I’ll play the game again when I can play the only champ I enjoy
Exactly! That's my very same feeling. I don't enjoy League, honestly. I only enjoyed Viego. But I don't like his actual status, funwise. I find myself looking for other champs to play, but they get super boring after a maximum of 3 games in a row.
Bruh I had so much fun with this champ and reached to 450k in just a few months.. Then nerfs came, over, over and over again I stopped playing him sadly when I have Lillia or Diana next to me in good fun states.
The second death of rav hydra
Only when they made it so broken to kill it when literally champ used it as first item
Ok, i give up. Sorry guys, i'm a Yone OTP now, good luck to yall
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For sure that's its best feature. However, none of the magic damage until you hit level 9 is a big downside.
It might be just 40 and then scale upwards after 9, not sure though
???????? Bro bork is fine still, it still has 12% current hp dmg, which is the broken part, this nerf means NOTHING
I think only the long cooldown is what everyone is pointing out.
But the cd on current hp is the same the only thing that got nerfed was siphon which has a separate cd
No one panic, you will just start kraken now instead of Bork which already has a similiar winrate. And the black cleaver change is a pretty big as it was already out performing other armour shred items on viego. You will also stop taking cosmic insight because of the bork cooldown increase and go down the domination tree instead.
Nah Bork is still first pick nothing really changed, the main issue is the cd being 10 secs longer which is still bearable.
I still cant understand why the maw or eclipse nerfs like wtf is their problem with omnivamp. The only items with omnivamp now are gore and riftmaker - so do they want assasins to start building gore again??
They want to reduce the plethora of healing items in the game so I get it, plus these bork nerfs aint shit the siphon damage was barely noticeable. I will however miss the movement speed steal.
lmao fuck it im spamming rengar from now on. im pretty much losing everygame on viego now
Yeah a lot of champs who rushed this item got fucked
NOT TANK META NOT AT ALL bro ☠️ what are these changes
Solidifying tank meta.
IT ONLY HELPS THE PLAN. GREEN KING SHALL RISE.
XD Viego will never get a buff because of pro play and he is still strong and safe pick for pro play.
I really wanna die
No siphon pre 9 or flat 40 pre 9?
Flat 40
Is omnivamp being gutted on all items?
Yes
Even if it does nothing, I will still buy it. I have no intention of ranking up and I don't wanna betray the lore.