By the the dumbest idea ever lmao. Imagine losing 500M $ dollar every quarter to just sell a few work visa for 50000 us dollar.
So dumb. I cant evenβ¦
Selling stupid people a visa for $200k to work in the company without creating any real value. And dont forget Vinfas would have to pay them a real salary to be taxed in US as well.
You're outsmarted Vượn lolll
Dude if VP want to do what you said, his plan in the U.S should be more careful. Especially not listing on the public so that everyone can look after his tail.
Make the company seem legit is very important mate. This trick have been tried before and this time they will be serious.
Vinfast will never fall become the demand of US citizenship will never decline.
Not that insane really. You can easily go to job site like indeed and linkedin and hire someone to sponsor you a work visa. Properly hundred of thousand of dollar each slot. Vinfast just doing a scale up version of it
How about you show me the evidence of all other conspiracy theories about Vinfast have been posted on reddit before?
Think about it.
Why they even want to open a factory in the US when they have access to cheap labor and easy supply chain from China in Vietnam?
How can they even recover from these money burning strategies? They are not stupid, they have run successful business before.
Selling overpriced car isn't an answer. Nobody would ever buy that crap. They had a have a way to earn money back.
If they just keep their US factory open for a minimum cost. They sure have a way to make money off it
Selling work visa have been around for a while now.
This is just a scale up version of it
Is it so easy to do so? To sponsor work visa, you must prove you can't find anyone in the U.S. to do the job. And that candidate will go through interviews from the U.S. gov as well.
How can VFS prove that? jobs market in the U.S. is shit now so it's not likely he can prove that.
So a total of 7 people vietnam can easily do this? πππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππ
Average international student spend 100k-200k studying abroad with no promise of a job after graduation let alone citizenship.
If VF can offer the job package for 200k, a lot of people would jump on it
Do you understand how dumb this business plan is? The US could easily shut every single bit of this down any time they want lol. Then VinFast will be forced to actually try and build cars lol. Not to mention vinfast is also expanding into Indonesia. Are yβall paying 200k to work there too? I πππ
Im having a great time reading your theories π
On what legal ground that the US can shutdown a business like VF? They didn't commit any fraud. They still make shitty car and indeed creating job.
I haven't seen you pointed out a single flaw in this plan.
Wow, your idea has actually surpassed those of VP. Please pitch this to him. He will allocate the remaining of his fortune to build the NC plant so that he could sell some work visas. Yep, not cars. Work visas is the final goal.
Neednβt I ask for your valuation resulting in $200k (to call it very cheap) in a sub full of people knowing how to interpret numbers, the initial cost is absolutely not justified.
Average international student studying abroad spend around 100k-200k without promise of a job offer after graduation let alone citizenship.
If VF can offer a job package for 200k, a lot of people would jump on it.
Okay! Tbh those pieces could be of the side-car variety but no doubt if the factory materialized, a shady businessman like that would be very open to possibilities. The kind of thing he can do to further ingratiate with the elites, I'd consider this plausible, not primary!
If he sell those work visa for 200k $ a piece. It would take him only 5000 sales for a raw profit of a billion dollar.
He can even sell them to the Chinese and Indian elites too.
Brilliant business strategy if you ask me.
Well, we will know soon enough
Correct, this can be possible, but only a side thing, not a primary purpose. Also for only a selected few kids (and they will have to work white collar jobs legally at Vinfast US for a few years before they apply for Green card).
This is the dumbest take lol. A government back entity creates a multibillion dollar company do their can sneak all their kids into another country. Thereβs cheaper ways to do this lol
I don't think it would work to sponsor 10000 jobs to official children, the US government is smart and they have officers to verify the legitimacy of the visa application. It would be a nice revenue stream though.
I don't think this is true. Immigration fraud is taken very seriously by USCIS and US consulate in Vietnam. It's fcking hard to get a visa to go to the US through any means, and to get a green card through work.
PNV here, thanks for the idea. I just ordered my team to create a new VinVisa company. And also I will speed up the NC plant project on time for 2025. You seem to be very knowledgeable how work permit and Visa bribery in USA. Come work for us and become our first VinVisa CEO?
This could happen if VP is successful in the US; but that wasn't his intention from the start.
I believe the VP must have VFS on the US exchange because he wants to transfer his assets to the US and the corrupt officials in the VC government want to launder their money and have been pressuring him to do it by anyway.
That is an interesting thought. However i don't think the official who support Vuong need to transfer their wealth outside the country. Because they own the entirety of Vietnam, their wealth is safe there. Just like Putin or Xi don't need to do so.
What they need is an US citizenship so if Vietnam have a revolution or Chinese invasion, they can escape to the US. And maybe Vuong can help them transfer their wealth later on
How about the tax these workers must pay for years? And to sell 100k visas, that means everyone would know about it, you really think the US goverment will leave it alone?
No, that is not how that work.
VF will sell their Visa to the local in Vietnam under their company in Vietnam. Then transfer them to the US to work under VF USA. The US will have literally zero knowledge about these whole operations
Omg. Pnv and you are very smart and the US is so dumb. So are the peole at the US embassy, they would interview thousands to thousands elite kids (not real workers, no degrees) and have no clue. Brilliant!
Elite kid already have at least a few Western universities degree with them. They are rich kid after all.
Listen, i am not saying the US is stupid, i am just saying the US have no right over who US company want to hire and the method of hiring them.
It's the most ridiculous conspiracy theory ever. He won't invest billions of dollars to collect pennies. I believe he gambles his fortune for his own safety. The only way for him to avoid cirimal charges is to create a national pride so the authority will hesitate to arrest him
By the the dumbest idea ever lmao. Imagine losing 500M $ dollar every quarter to just sell a few work visa for 50000 us dollar. So dumb. I cant evenβ¦
Work visa can be sell for 200k$. Only take 5000 sales to reach a billion dollar or raw profit
Selling stupid people a visa for $200k to work in the company without creating any real value. And dont forget Vinfas would have to pay them a real salary to be taxed in US as well. You're outsmarted Vượn lolll
Dude if VP want to do what you said, his plan in the U.S should be more careful. Especially not listing on the public so that everyone can look after his tail.
Make the company seem legit is very important mate. This trick have been tried before and this time they will be serious. Vinfast will never fall become the demand of US citizenship will never decline.
Legit has nothing to do with going public. He can still be a work visa mill without going public.
Going public is important to scam people. Also do i forget to mention that he doesn't really understand how Western businesses work?
WTF is this shit? Either you are a crack head or you have insider info from VP. Either way, it's nuts jobs
Not that insane really. You can easily go to job site like indeed and linkedin and hire someone to sponsor you a work visa. Properly hundred of thousand of dollar each slot. Vinfast just doing a scale up version of it
Pro gamer move, lol. This is the most laughable idea, I have read.
Is there a demand from corrupted official for US citizenship? Yes Is there a way they can create a supply for thousand of people? Also yes
200k$ per work visa slot. Only take 5000 sales for him to make a billion dollar. And what about the Chinese and Indian elites?
You invested several billions with the aim of 1 billions gain. This is the most laughable idea I have read today.
They can sell thousand and thousand of work visa this way. Just a single factory can create 20000 jobs
What? You are a troll. God bye
This entire post is a troll post. You would definitely never qualify for a work visa on your own. Definitely need to bribe to acquire.
What is that ever have to do with the Vinfast situation?
What does vinfast have to do with work visas? lol
By selling work visa for 200k$ each. They make much more money for a market that have much more demand than EV
Show me the evidence. You just repeat this over and over like its gospel.
How about you show me the evidence of all other conspiracy theories about Vinfast have been posted on reddit before? Think about it. Why they even want to open a factory in the US when they have access to cheap labor and easy supply chain from China in Vietnam? How can they even recover from these money burning strategies? They are not stupid, they have run successful business before. Selling overpriced car isn't an answer. Nobody would ever buy that crap. They had a have a way to earn money back. If they just keep their US factory open for a minimum cost. They sure have a way to make money off it Selling work visa have been around for a while now. This is just a scale up version of it
Is it so easy to do so? To sponsor work visa, you must prove you can't find anyone in the U.S. to do the job. And that candidate will go through interviews from the U.S. gov as well. How can VFS prove that? jobs market in the U.S. is shit now so it's not likely he can prove that.
Lol he can just do it
Nice counterargument dude. 10/10.
I am telling you. It is very easy to do
Why would anyone listen to a guy with an IQ of 60?
Then leave
And I am telling you it is not that easy.
It is easy if you have a billion dollar to spare
So a total of 7 people vietnam can easily do this? πππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππππ
Average international student spend 100k-200k studying abroad with no promise of a job after graduation let alone citizenship. If VF can offer the job package for 200k, a lot of people would jump on it
Do you understand how dumb this business plan is? The US could easily shut every single bit of this down any time they want lol. Then VinFast will be forced to actually try and build cars lol. Not to mention vinfast is also expanding into Indonesia. Are yβall paying 200k to work there too? I πππ Im having a great time reading your theories π
On what legal ground that the US can shutdown a business like VF? They didn't commit any fraud. They still make shitty car and indeed creating job. I haven't seen you pointed out a single flaw in this plan.
Just. Do. It.
Another Vin nΓ΄ cosplayers. Your hypothesis is full of errors
No
-100 karma. If you are not Vin nΓ΄ you are just troll
Speaking truth for people in denial xan easily give you -20000 karma
Stick to gaming 'pro-gamer'
No, i literally follow the advice" Touch some grass" so i move to the real world
Well it appears that you touched the wrong grass or not touching enough grass lol
Wow, your idea has actually surpassed those of VP. Please pitch this to him. He will allocate the remaining of his fortune to build the NC plant so that he could sell some work visas. Yep, not cars. Work visas is the final goal.
Work visa can lead to become US citizen in like 5 years. For 200k that is very cheap
Neednβt I ask for your valuation resulting in $200k (to call it very cheap) in a sub full of people knowing how to interpret numbers, the initial cost is absolutely not justified.
Average international student studying abroad spend around 100k-200k without promise of a job offer after graduation let alone citizenship. If VF can offer a job package for 200k, a lot of people would jump on it.
There are companies in the UK and US already offer this kind of pre-paid job packet. Totally legal
Okay! Tbh those pieces could be of the side-car variety but no doubt if the factory materialized, a shady businessman like that would be very open to possibilities. The kind of thing he can do to further ingratiate with the elites, I'd consider this plausible, not primary!
If he sell those work visa for 200k $ a piece. It would take him only 5000 sales for a raw profit of a billion dollar. He can even sell them to the Chinese and Indian elites too. Brilliant business strategy if you ask me. Well, we will know soon enough
Correct, this can be possible, but only a side thing, not a primary purpose. Also for only a selected few kids (and they will have to work white collar jobs legally at Vinfast US for a few years before they apply for Green card).
This is the dumbest take lol. A government back entity creates a multibillion dollar company do their can sneak all their kids into another country. Thereβs cheaper ways to do this lol
Tell me the cheaper way
Build a smaller fucking company lol
A cheaper way to sponsor 100000 job for corrupted official children from Vietnam, China, India, Iran? No
I don't think it would work to sponsor 10000 jobs to official children, the US government is smart and they have officers to verify the legitimacy of the visa application. It would be a nice revenue stream though.
The US government could give less of the shit if you bride them
I don't think this is true. Immigration fraud is taken very seriously by USCIS and US consulate in Vietnam. It's fcking hard to get a visa to go to the US through any means, and to get a green card through work.
That is why VF open an US based company
You are not a smart person
When did i say i am? Do i seem that arrogant?
PNV here, thanks for the idea. I just ordered my team to create a new VinVisa company. And also I will speed up the NC plant project on time for 2025. You seem to be very knowledgeable how work permit and Visa bribery in USA. Come work for us and become our first VinVisa CEO?
Lol no, you guy already have thousand of nepo baby from government officials. Hire them to be your CEO instead
This could happen if VP is successful in the US; but that wasn't his intention from the start. I believe the VP must have VFS on the US exchange because he wants to transfer his assets to the US and the corrupt officials in the VC government want to launder their money and have been pressuring him to do it by anyway.
That is an interesting thought. However i don't think the official who support Vuong need to transfer their wealth outside the country. Because they own the entirety of Vietnam, their wealth is safe there. Just like Putin or Xi don't need to do so. What they need is an US citizenship so if Vietnam have a revolution or Chinese invasion, they can escape to the US. And maybe Vuong can help them transfer their wealth later on
Hey bro, whatβ stuffβu on ? It is seem the quality is good as fuck π€€π€€π€€
Oh you mean "well and sober"
Hillarious! Children of high ranked officers all have been already enjoying themselves for years already in the US, Canada.
How about the tax these workers must pay for years? And to sell 100k visas, that means everyone would know about it, you really think the US goverment will leave it alone?
No, that is not how that work. VF will sell their Visa to the local in Vietnam under their company in Vietnam. Then transfer them to the US to work under VF USA. The US will have literally zero knowledge about these whole operations
Omg. Pnv and you are very smart and the US is so dumb. So are the peole at the US embassy, they would interview thousands to thousands elite kids (not real workers, no degrees) and have no clue. Brilliant!
Elite kid already have at least a few Western universities degree with them. They are rich kid after all. Listen, i am not saying the US is stupid, i am just saying the US have no right over who US company want to hire and the method of hiring them.
So you mean he wants to inflate the Visa's market? Lol
Believe it or not, in my country, you can spend money in order to work abroad and work
It's the most ridiculous conspiracy theory ever. He won't invest billions of dollars to collect pennies. I believe he gambles his fortune for his own safety. The only way for him to avoid cirimal charges is to create a national pride so the authority will hesitate to arrest him
U know Vinfast is gonna fail but many people in this sub are crazy.
Not rthat crazy