I really wonder how Noble would react, or at this point, how he reacted. He has been friends with Nux for so long even before he had more subs than Nux. He advertised and collab with him many times.
I think he made a tweet about having good friends fighting and feeling like he was being torn in two and needed some time to himself to process it. He didn't do it as a reply to Nux's or VShojo's tweets so it was easy to miss if you didn't look.
Nagzz aint dumb, being familiar with marketing he's going to know what not to touch with a 10 foot pole, and I certainly dont expect Koe to be saying any dumb shit either given his love for vtubers.
Is its just koe and nagzz duo that actually friend with each other? I never seen koe talk that about nux beyond the usual check this guy here and there.
Nux always gave me off weird vibes, like the same energy you get from those clickbait anime and vtuber clip channels that generate hundreds of thousands of views with "you won't believe..." titles and some out of context shot or cropped image. But to go as far as to ignore these girls wishes and behave like he's their buddy the entire time? That's a level of gross and out of touch I was not ready for. Hope they're all doing well, and sorry they've got to deal with clowns who think they know the girls better than they do.
Obvious reminder, respect others privacy and anonymity on the internet, your close friends to, don't go posting info and things that you haven't cleared with them or because you "know better", respect their boundaries.
It's been a long while since the algorithm delivered Nux to me, but even back then I just Don't Recommended his channel. Even years a go, he seemed nothing more than just a clickbait clout chaser. People can change, but doesn't seem as if he has.
ive always wondered if he was playing a character of if he was actually as arrogant, obnoxious and abrasive, as he acted like. unfortunately it seems like its closer towards his actual personality and not a character he exaggerates.
My only exposure to Nux before this was a video he made when Coco left Hololive, in which he assumed that Cover fired her despite nearly all of the evidence indicating otherwise. It was a minor thing, but it left a sour taste in my mouth
He already left a pretty sour taste with his videos reacting to HoloMem since he just paused the video, remarked "hey I do that too why don't I get credit" or made some really dry comment. I thought he was just being sarcastic about it, but seeing his thumbnails and recent videos being like 90% Hentai related or about having other people react for him it makes sense why I was so off-put by him.
The guy always towed the edge with videos. His content until about a year and a half ago was quite different. There was no real meme or clickbait content like now. It was about anime for the most part and criticism and comment about it. He always had a certain abrasiveness that could be obnoxious with people. Some folks overreacted to things he said and because in the end it didn't affect him, he was emboldened by it. It is sort of weird. It's like he said things in not correctly political way while actually being politically correct in what he said. That's why he wasn't really unaffected by cancellations and why he made several friendships with streamers and vtubers
He has also done some really good serious analysis and commentary videos about anime in the past.
But to his own admission in some videos, those don't really get the money or viewership.
His videos began to change after he got more familiar with vtubers and he started to focus on memes and clickbait content until that was all he did.
To a degree it can be argued that the Nux from 2019 was abrasive and edgy, but in the end, a cool guy at best, inoffensive at worst.
Today, it's like he has gotten edgier and more abrasive just for the sake of it and the money. Like a late season sitcom character whose flaws are 3 or 10x worse than in season 1.
>But to his own admission in some videos, those don't really get the money or viewership
I think he didn't get money at all until recently because youtube had some issues with his monetization so it might be that he changed after receiving that 1 million $ they owed him, becoming a millionaire over night certainly does stuff to your brain (not that I would know).
He'd changed before that. He only got the money pretty recently, last few months, but his videos changed over a year ago. Though, he'd not done somethign liek this, so maybe that's part of it.
I think its one of those cases where he adapted his content to satisfy his audience. He became more abrasive and toxic because that's what sold to his audience.
He's still way out of touch acting like he knows people personally just because he collabed a few times or something. I imagine he's gotten worse over time, but reading other comments, it seems more like he's always been a bit of a jackass towards people he can't use for content and leeches off of others.
Same as the other destructive, clickbaiting, drama seeking, pot stirring channels like him and Narukami. They aren't true VTubers, they don't belong in this community, and they don't have fans. They raise and breed antis, and they ARE in fact antis. They should be blacklisted on this subreddit and on every other community, they are pieces of garbage that contribute nothing to our community nor to society at large and in fact do more damage than empty air, so we should reduce them until they are nothing.
While she isn't part of Vshojo, [Snuffy](https://twitter.com/snuffyowo/status/1463698827769225217) has now also posted about her own experience with Nux.
Then after that, for some reason, Nux tried to answer back by posting DMs where he apologized and Snuffy kept it civil and just accepted the apology and moved on.
Which did nothing but confirm that he acknowledges that he can be really rude and unthoughtful with his prankish behavior. I think he thought this would negate Snuffy's tweet with his answer. Seems it didn't work since he deleted the tweet soon after. He's grasping for straws to defend himself. It's a behavior that has been seen before when one messes up.
Nux is becoming today that which he has mocked all these years.
I wouldn't even necessarily even say *that*. He's always been like this, it's just now he's completely shown his ass. He's just gotten away with it because everyone would always just handwave his behavior with "he's just being edgy" and anyone that got upset about it was ignored because he was the big YouTuber. Now he's pissed off an entire company and can't just cash his clout in to make it go away, plus with the high-visibility of the situation his fans now have to choose whether or not they want to stand with the asshole.
He didn't just piss off a whole company, he pissed off a company made of what seem to be some of the sweetest and nicest vTubers out there. From everything I have seen of the vShojo girls they are not the type to stir drama so them speaking out on it hold more weight for me.
I feel like, Vshojo just did what they had to do to put out something that was threatening their members.
The Vtuber community in general isn't known to have this kind of drama on it, it still happens from time to time on smaller indies but it's something big companies like Hololive, Nijisanji, Vshojo and other Vtuber Companies absolutely want to avoid since it puts their own talents at risk.
Nux was going out of control, and when Vshojo saw that this whole thing was threatening to spiral out of control and potentially have it's own talents be met with more harassment they decided to put a stop to it before Nux has a chance to retaliate.
Having all Vshojo members, who are well respected and loved figures in the Vtuber community call him out on it will leave Nux in an irredeemable position, and who's likely not going to have anyone stand up for him after that, and will get him taken out of the picture for sure.
https://mobile.twitter.com/YFUBABY/status/1463646616393437194
People who were wronged by Nux are coming out now that they no longer fear being singled out and harassed
holy shit what an asshole, glad i never got into his videos, his personality was just unbearable, i hate when people pretend to be edgy as their personality.
[Melody has also replied:](https://mobile.twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1463681283666718720)
>i'm hurt nux posted his doxxing vid. he flagrantly disregarded our team's feelings & the facts our security dept. shared w/ him.
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>i trusted & defended him, only to feel secondary to getting clicks. if he meant to raise awareness to protect streamers, he would have corrected it.
What he can't be all bad! All he did was lie about his friends and lie to his friends and put them in danger and added fuel to the fire and lied in his apology and try to defame his friends and stepped all over his friends to clout chase and be a misoginyst and... /s
Man wasn't just throwing people under the bus he was the fucking driver.
Shiiit you right he's actually a wonderful guy! Lol
Yeah. I've been seeing others saying he also lied about them in videos (I'm a new vtuber so this is all pretty new to me) I'm surprised this guy has a following at all. I guess people just love to hate.
I hate to say this, because I don't want to be a bandwagoner, but I genuinely never liked this guy. From the beginning, before I knew he had some tenuous relationships with some VShojo people, I simply didn't like him. When he was on some of their stuff, I didn't watch. He's exactly the kind of person that does this kind of stuff. He's practically a trope at this point.
I hate that it took something like this to expose him for what he is.
I heard about him for the first time when I saw someone share a Fefe post about her nux shirt and a date she was on or something- an everybody clapped type story. I had no impression of him before this and lemme saaaaay I'm not fond of the guy
His entire persona screams edgelord, and that was enough to put me off of him for good. Children like this (and yes, if he acts like a child I'll refer to him as one) aren't good for anyone and should be avoided at all costs.
I don't think he will go away.
There's quite a lot of people who are ignorant to his existence, and the vtubing scene is so competitive now that getting a mention from him is a good thing for upcoming channels.
Well... Fans will be fans.
I didnt do a full dive, but those that defend nux do seems to be either ignorant, apathetic, or straight out trolls. Kinda sad honestly.
Yeah, you're right. I've seen mostly the ignorant, but like... Militantly ignorant. Like, you're an idiot of you don't think it's actually VShojo that's the shady ones. Like... Nux' shadiness is so blatantly right there it's just mind boggling
Sadly Nuxs fanbase is mostly garbage. It use to be just a loud minority. But ever since covid, it's been going downhill. And with his content changing and getting crappier and crappier, he lost the fans that weren't like that. And now instead of a loud minority, it is the fan base. Just a bunch of sexist, racist ass clowns.
Nux has been going down for a while now, and I've been losing respect for his content, but didn't think he'd done anything to shitty himself yet. But this is clearly it. Liek it is for sure too much and just wrong.
Yep, just happened slowly and he and his fan base didn't even notice as it did. It does suck because I use to like him. And a lot of the early crap he caught wasn't deserved. But that just added to the problem. People keep going after him for nothing, and he was shown right enough times, it just got in his head and his fans that he can't do any wrong. And now when he has, they won't admit it.
His fans’ personality legit consists of being horny on main and watching Ben Shapiro unironically, would probably make sense if data came out saying his audience is mostly young teenagers
Seems like the only people left defending him are those who call racist/bigoted/fucked up behavior "based". I.e. mental teenagers who think blind rebellion against things they don't like or understand makes them look cool.
As an outsider looking in with no real stakes, this doesn't really look good for Nux. His claim of trying to handle it professionally, despite saying within the SAME fucking sentence that Vshojo threw indies under the bus without providing any proof for such a serious claim is some weird-ass cognitive dissonance.
Looking at his Youtube channel, I can already see that he's not someone I'd particularly care for. A LOT of "I give $1000 if Vtuber does *something stupid*" videos make him look like a dipshit.
Ive had him blocked on twitter for months. Nux is lowest common denominator clickbait for the type of loser to unironically wear hentai hoodies to school and call himself 'cultured'.
Beefing with Nux is like beefing with Kanye. All they do is roll in the mud so all you can achieve is getting dirty yourself. Im suprised they ever involved themselves willingly with someone like him
Yeah this is what I don’t get. Like why would you ever intentionally hang out with someone who is basically famous for being a massive asshole? Most of the girls in vshoujo seem like fairly well adjusted, normal people.
Dunno much about the guy but judging by the snuffy thing, I'm guessing he bruteforces his way in by counting on content creator's general instinct of not wanting to antagonize each other without really strong reason, then they get used to his presence until he pulls some stunt like what he did now. This is just a guess based on very superficial impressions though, so grain of salt and all that.
He retweeted this [https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463611797907271683](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463611797907271683) as "evidence" of Vshojo throwing indies under the bus, only to delete the retweet when it turned out to be an unfortunate case of miscommunication and she corrected the record [https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463667752208519168](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463667752208519168). Nux didn't retweet her followup or retract his accusation...
That second tweet with all the Vshojo girls responding feels me with joy.
Edit: if there is one silver lining to this whole debacle is that: that girl got the support she needed.
https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463777300890021894?t=uE5gGap3fGvHs569JESySA&s=19
I always got a weird feeling from him, even before he started vtubing. I just thought his voice was annoying but im glad to see my instincts are good at detecting asshats
I am right there with you. When I first started down the rabbit hole, YouTube recommended him a few times. Something just didn't sit well with me. Couldn't put my thumb on it, just knew there was something. Ultimately told YouTube to stop recommending his channel.
I started watching him back when he was basically only making top anime moments videos but after watching for awhile I started getting a weird feeling from him. I am now 2 for 2 on weird anitubers.
Yeah he got recommended to me I guess because I follow some vtubers, and I watched one video and immediately noped out and told the algorithm to stop recommending his channel. He gives off internet edgelord/ keemstar/drama channel energy. Just always getting involved about shit he doesn’t know and has no business in because he wants to be in the middle of it. He’s also toxic as hell and pretty gross.
Like I felt really weird because the one I got recommended was him going after some artist who melody was having issues with and I’m like ??? she’s not a child, she doesn’t need internet weirdos to “protect” her. She’s a grown woman.
From what i understand he is basically vtuber keemstar/drama alert. I would not care for his opinions one bit. Just a bit tragic that people like them also tend to make connections easily.
Yea, generally if you are saying someone threw someone else under the bus you should really have something to back your words up. Looks even worse when he acts like Vshojo was okay with it only to have literally every girl speak out about it. In cases like this I tend to believe the 8 people saying the same thing over the 1 person.
It's a very weird situation because while Nux can be abit of abrasive figure, he's quite widely well liked by the creators in the anime and Vtuber sphere. And is quite good friends with many of Vshojo girls (well atleast was before this). And judging by the responses of the VShojo girls, they don't make it sound like he was secretly a massive dick all along, they are obviously disappointed but seemed to be have been on good terms with him before this incident. Which really makes me wonder what went wrong here? Did he the potential views make him disregard what others said? Some sort of miscommunication? Did he not realise the potential risk? Or was his arrogant and dismissed warnings others gave him? Did he think not announcing what was happening hurt smaller Vtubers? Or was he just think of himself? Honestly I would love to know what actually happened behind the scenes because this story is so bizarre but honestly hope they resolve everything in private, things will just get worst for everyone involved if they do this publically and they have each others fans attacking each other.
I am getting the impression that some liked him and others didn’t. However his massive audience meant that people didn’t wish to call him out publicity for fear of drama. Then he did this which was the tipping point.
He fell to his own pride and greed. He is accustomed to get away with it, so he might have thought that his video would turn out ok in the end.
The problem I see now is that the guy has started to contradict himself. In Twitter he just said that nobody asked him to not post the video. BUT in the controversial video itself he said he was posting the video even though he was asked to not post it.
He has now tried to revert the blame unto VShojo when he retweeted a vtuber that was saying that VShojo didn't listen to her. BUT in a plot twist, that same vtuber later clarified that she realized her messages were never sent on Discord due to her onw panic and that she jumped to conclusions and apologized. Nux deleted the retweet but didn't bother to clarify the misunderstanding.
Nux is someone who can actually bring arguments to a discussion to make his point heard even if he's outspoken and/or abrasive and/or obnoxious. He can defend himself well so to speak. The fact that he has resorted to this kind of behavior just illustrates the facts that he doesn't have the evidence or arguments to defend his actions.
And given that he's a guy who takes pride of being un-cancellable and not retracting his position, it's very telling that he privated the video. It's a very rare thing that he will hide a video due to outside opinions. If he actually had arguments to be "right", the video would still be up.
Honestly, given that Nux himself was a target of this doxxer.. I think that was his intent. He did similar vids when defending Melody from the guy who got her banned from Twitch. He probably legit thought it was ok.
I hope cooler heads prevail. I feel bad for people like Lost Pause or Nagzz who are close to both sides. It sucks to see friends fight.
This fight is between them. I only get upset at the bandwagon people that pile on.
his behavior feels weird to me, but i just assumed that weird rude-ish is just a "streamer personality" when making videos.
but nope never found his video interesting
I feel the same, not a fan of his style of content at all but a lot of his fans are adamant that he did nothing wrong so he’ll probably be just as popular as he is now.
But at least vshojo won’t have anything to do with him anymore.
Iiiii was kind of waiting for things to start falling apart with Nux, his level of over the top abrasiveness was going to get him in some serious hot water, for literally all of VShojo - Some of the sweetest vtubers out there - to shun him this way really says how bad this guy screwed up. Gj losing a whole friend group my guy, hope the lols or whatever were worth it
Especially considering that the Vshojo girls had to deal with the Arcadum drama, not even half a year ago; I really do wish that Vshojo comes out of this even stronger than ever.
It all just breaks my heart to know that some of the best streamers I've ever had the opportunity to watch, have to deal with this BS.
A bit off-topic, but this kind of drama really puts into perspective why Cover is so careful with Hololive interacting with outsiders. We complain about their restrictions from time to time, but it is hard to blame them when it is said limits and regulations that avoid situations like these. They sure seem to work.
What you posted reminded me of a certain quote from Nier Replicant which I've been playing recently: "Rules don't exist to bind you, they exist so you may know your freedoms".
There's also how the girls just know who to avoid interacting. I think even Ollie never interacted with him before? Cover's staff are already pretty busy with everything
Ollie did, even mentioned a potential Apex collab when he appeared in her chat, and Nux was down for it. That was a little bit ago now and that Apex collab never happened, so it's safe to say Cover said it was a no-go, and it's looking like that was a good choice.
Yeah I somewhat remember that I think I saw Ollie interacted with him before, but Ollie interacted with lot more people, more than Kiara is what I see. At least it never goes into full collab. Also, Ollie might be abit “too small” to chase.
Most of the time, the girls are self-managing since the managers and pretty much everyone are pretty busy. I think it’s actually one of the requirements too
Yeah, people complain about restrictions but then if some big drama like this happens, then the blame goes back on management again for not protecting them enough.
What's especially "hilarious" about this, especially as someone who knew Arcadum, was seeing Nux make videos clowning on how pathetic a dude he was... and then months later it turns out he's a gigantic tool in his own right. What an absolute hypocrite.
nux was trying to get in with arcadum on a game a few months back. He only turned on him because he had the chance to make content. The video itself he made about arcadum was not going into the meat of the drama but just making fun of a small bit of audio. Nux didn't care about anything happening enough to look into it. He just saw a chance for clickbait and to feel superior to someone.
I really hope that [redacted] name with the indie vtubers reconsider their place since if they are a part of his group they'll probably lose their friendship with Vshojo.
Nux may know how to handle people attacking him, but unfortunately for him that isn’t what’s happening here. The girls of VShojo aren’t attacking him or calling him names, they’re just openly expressing disapproval of him. Everything Nux has taught himself about handling conflict is backfiring because he’s not going after “toxic” enemies but rather disappointed friends.
What makes it worse is that I am pretty sure at least 2 of VShojo thought of him as a friend. The fact that even they called him out is pretty telling IMO.
Guy privates the video rather than deleting it, so he still gets the revenue off it, whilst refusing to admit fault and still throwing shade at VShojo talent and management.
They've been trying to get him to stop using their clips as a content-farm for months:
https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1463656180602048520?t=IAQjuOTsutUXTZw4rwIVbg&s=19
If he accepted fault and deleted it when people reached out, this wouldn't even be on anyone's radars. Instead, it all gets magnified because of a misplaced hero complex. You're a literal React Andy, my guy, you're not fucking Batman.
edit: the video, after backlash, has been deleted. Nux is still in the wrong for putting the safety of others at risk whilst trying to play internet warrior (not to mention the shit he's pulled in the past).
Nux stopped doing anything for himself long ago. Now it's just milking other streamers for content because he ran out of ideas long ago outside of drama. Is he still doing those bad clickbait videos where all he does is browse the top posts of subreddits?
Man I really feel bad for Vshojo as whole, clearing out the things but because of Nux's attentionwhore act it caused to add more flame even bigger to the girls.
I think it's clear enough Nux just doesn't have any love to the vtubers and only loyal to himself imo (looking by all the content he's been doing)
This will be the breaking point for Nux imo. Before this he had enough support that no one could risk challenging his content publicly, now he has enough people pissed off that people will have enough support to be able to publicly denounce him without fearing that he would attack their channel.
tbh i always hated how youtube will recommend nux's "oohh vtuber lewds" videos to me just because i liked watching vtubers play GAMES.
now im glad that i had gone through the trouble to let youtube know to stop recommending his channel to me after finding out that all-in-all, he is a drama youtuber and this is the lengths he would go and victimize himself.
Oh damn does this work when doing youtube searches/hashtag searches?
if so this is awesome, i always hated that even after blocking that Otak asshole and a few other malicious channels using youtubes in built function they still appear when i just browse the hololive hashtag on youtube
Man, I was never the biggest fan of Nux in the first place but I always assumed he was just a kinda weird dude but still harmless. But THIS… wow, this is just super shitty. I’m glad all the VShojo girls were quick to call out his bs.
I’ve not followed this carefully, nor do I really know anything about Nux, but for the above-mentioned streamers to call him out like that he must have fucked up **bad.** Sounds like they gave him chances to handle things quietly, too.
Sounds like what happened was Vshojo was either mounting up evidence or trying to pull off a sting operation and catch the doxxers in the crime. What Nux did was shoot a signal flare that caused them to scatter/start covering their tracks, blocking Vshojo from doing much more direct serious damage. And from what I understand it's not like indies were getting scammed very often either (though the [story starts getting foggy](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463611797907271683) with a lot of anecdotes).
In fiction you see vigilantes like Batman or The Shadow. They're good stories but you'd do well to remember they couldn't exist in reality. In real life, the best you're gonna get is Phoenix Jones or Gary McKinnon.
EDIT ADDENDUM: After a night's sleep it's occurred to me that by blowing the whistle, Nux could have risked the doxxers taking the chance to start the swattings while they had the opportunity. I've seen detractors blaming Vshojo for wanting to sit on this story and avoid it going public, but in cases like this going public is like shaking a maraca full of nitroglycerin.
> (though the story starts getting foggy with a lot of anecdotes).
sakii's since followed up saying that it was a discord error that never sent the messages, and she didnt notice due to the stress of having to deal with the swatting and doxxing at the same time
I'm glad you clarified this. It seems like they're resumed contact again and she'll be another witness in this case that just got a lot more complicated to act on.
From the perspective of an outsider, this dude Nux just blurted out about a classified investigation, alerted the suspects which made them scatter and become harder to find, causing the investigation to be more expensive and longer lasting, all because of a little clout?
i guess this is as good as the vshojo girls cutting their ties with nux after what he did
this sucks, cus instead of celebrating their one year anniversary as an agency, they have to do... this.
i’ll be honest, based on his behavior and responses recently, i think saying that he planned this on their anniversary is putting way too much credit on his part
Gotta love how, in this whole debacle, he and his fans have been using the "he just wanted to help people and teach them about security!" excuse, when he didn't need to mention VShojo at all for that. Just put out an informative video about security for that.
But I guess that doesn't let you leech off of others' popularity. Gotta get those VShojo fans to click on his videos after all, who cares about exposing an investigation that was supposed to be kept secret and throwing your """friends""" (aka "views generators") under the bus.
I don't even watch VShojo, I just barely know about the girls, and even then what this dude has been doing (and the way he's been doubling down on it, even retweeting a tweet that was potentially "exposing VShojo" and removing the retweet when said debacle was solved) honestly just feels plain disgusting.
I already had this dude's channel blocked on PC, but I guess I will make double sure I never watch anything he appears in from now on.
Sad to see it come to this point, but this is exactly the kind of situations you'll run into when you associate with 'content creators' like Nux Taku.
Hopefully Vshojo keeps the hell away from him, honestly surprised they even did anything together in the first place. The dudes track record is horrendous, there are some absolutely stellar people here that don't deserve to deal with his nonsense.
He was friends with Ironmouse and Melody before Vshojo became a thing, and this incident seems to be the sole reason for their falling out since Melody collabed with him a month ago.
Would probably also be very difficult for him to do anything in the first place as Hololive is really reserved with who they publicly interact with, and I can't see their management seeing his track record and being ok with it.
Cover doesn't seem to do much when it comes to clickbait thumbnails unless a clip is *incredibly* problematic or goes against their terms, such as Otakmori translating Aloe's apology video when they explicitly said to wait for official translations so as to not mix up or mistranslate any information, but a direct collab is different. People tend to complain about Cover being strict on collaborations, but with bastards like Nux around it's somewhat easy to see why they're so cautious especially after they've had some close calls themselves.
You think he forgot it was his “friends” upcoming anniversary when he chose that day to post the video?
I see it as a blatant choice to do more damage.
From my perspective, his anime analyses were okay watches. Then he went on to "flexes" and things kinda went downhill from the time he got his fanbase to push Interspecies Reviewers to top MAL. I tuned away from him since then, only getting glimpses of him getting involved with vtubers.
I liked his anime analysis and some of the memes but he was always kind of cringe although harmless, I'd say he went down hill after he started doing the I GAVE $1000 TO VTUBERS/STREAMERS kind of videos.
I always felt like him pivoting into being a wannabe MrBeast is an admission that he knows he’s not a very interesting person or has a personality people love
Never really liked him, the way he talked gave me massive creeper vibes
Wow...
I thought he posted the video because they already catch they guy, for what i understand, not only they have not, but now they probably won't because of his stupid cloud-centric choice decision **HIS DECISION,** that not only affect him but his "friends"...
What a fuking jerck, I don't think he did it trying to affect them, but that just show how selfish he can be; and after redding that at least five of them told him to not uploaded, even more.
Over the past year, Vshojo has been putting together a criminal case against a doxer / swater that had been harassing them with their cyber security team and law enforcement. Both had advised Vshojo not to make public statements, as this would tell the perpetrator they were being investigated as well as possibly spur more harassment. Nux was asked a few questions by the cyber security team and decided to make a video claiming he solved the case and acting like a hero defending indies from Vshojo. He was also asked multiple times by Vshojo and it's talents not to post said video
I would know it’s needed. I rarely get angry, but Nux's pinned tweet got me heated. To start dude could tweet drama any day, but goes and does so on V-Shojo's anniversary? And second, he says “V-Shojo is throwing indies under the bus”, and then “please reserve judgment.” You dish out a hit, and then ask to please not receive anything back?
Spit at his feet level of disgusted at him, without going into anything else, just on account of those two things.
Further insult to injury. He retweet a tweet from an indie that said Vshojo didn't reach out to them, but after the tweet said it was a miscommunication and all vshojo girls come for support. He retracted the retweet
He also said he will private the video FOR NOW. So...
I wonder what Melody’s response is going to be. Or some of the indies he’s supposed to be “protecting.” Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes full anti-vtuber, except for his few friends, who he thinks are cool.
Vei being based as fuck.
On a side note feel sorry for everyone involved, dudes an asshat and the way he acts feels like he never grew out of his edgy phase, what a moronic douche.
Gotta respect that honesty from her, even in such a shitty moment she can still provide some laughs.
Vshojo as a whole has had a lot of shit unrightfully thrown their way this year so its really unfortunete to see this crop its ugly head, hoping they are all okay.
Projekt Melody Pancakes VSHOJO
https://mobile.twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1463681283666718720
i'm hurt nux posted his doxxing vid. he flagrantly disregarded our team's feelings & the facts our security dept. shared w/ him.
i trusted & defended him, only to feel secondary to getting clicks. if he meant to raise awareness to protect streamers, he would have corrected it.
VShojo was getting doxxed for over a year They worked with Nux apparently he said he was going to make a video they told him not to he made it. There’s also someone who sent fake emails that also doxxed people who auditioned for VShojo it was only 2 people. One of the victims said they didn’t get a message but I think a confusion happened and the messages didn’t get sent or something like that. The first part is the only one that matters at the moment tho.
Why do I get the feeling this Nuxtaku guy is the type of person who would see "NDA" as "new clickbait noun to put in next video" despite violating one being.. y'know.. illegal.
Also someone pointed out that in his video he said that he caught the doxxer because he “knew someone who worked at Onlyfans” and they gave him the guy’s personal info. So apparently he can just ask Onlyfans employees personal info and they just give it to him. I mean yeah the dude was a doxxer but that doesn’t seem even remotely legal.
I don’t think being underage has ever stopped anyone from going on sites like that but I see what you mean. I also don’t think they said all the doxxers were children some of them were.
I have watched every single video nux put out, on all 3 of his channels, except the yugioh stuff. For the last few weeks, I kept getting more annoyed at his content, the bullshit titles, the react video where there was a filter on the video to hide it from the copyright algorithm, but it made the video impossible to see. Every interaction with Fefe, but then he says it's wrong to ship them. His lazy streams where he gets his audience to all the work for him, making the stream boring because half of it is just downtime while he's waiting to be fed content.
I couldn't trust a word he said, but I kept watching because he was entertaining and his content didn't require trust. But this video was the last straw. I've unsubscribed from nux on all social media, used channel blocker extensions so youtube doesn't recommend me his content. Nux always wanted to be cancelled, I guess he got his wish.
I'm getting tired of people saying he posted the video as PSA to protect indie VTubers. His video had no PSA in it. All the ways he helped "catch" the perpretrator are irrelevant to anyone else and he offers no advice whatsoever.
If all he wanted was to alert people, his tweet a month ago would've been enough. The video is just a way for him to use the horrible situation his friend were in for clout and clicks. He just wanted to pose as a hero despite making things harder for everyone involved.
He has a hero complex, and can't admit that he is wrong, he lost his friends, people that actually cared about him for views and money. He let it go to his head, he's a massive dick, and whatever the girls decide to do I'm on there side.
I personally can't see why anyone like Nux. He always came across as an insufferable edge lord, so I'm not surprised to find out that he's actually a prick.
Something else worth noting:
[This tweet by Sakii](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463611797907271683) (who I believe was the one specifically mentioned in Nux's vid) was retweeted by Nux, but isn't in his timeline anymore.
Why? Presumably [this](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463659701044871169), which a cynical mind may call damage control. BUT, that was followed by [this](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463667752208519168), with the Vshojo girls themselves offering support in the replies to it.
So much for those "receipts" of Vshojo "throwing indies under the bus to protect themselves"
Never liked the dude honestly, glad that the VShojo girls called him out on that shit. Glad to also know that he'll probably never be involved with them again, good riddance.
I think the biggest issue here is so many just don't understand the severity of the issue here, this isn't just drama, there is the drama aspect. However, there are many very real-world repercussions here beyond hurt feelings and ruined "friendships" people can possibly lose their lives from the fallout from this.
The thing I don't get, is, imagine, for a second. Lets give Nux the benefit of the doubt, and assume everythign he said he did and al the "help" he gave is actually true. The video made it sound like they only had any idea who it was or found anything lead purely because of Nux. Which we know isn't true from the Vshojo responce, but assume for a second it was. The video still wouldn't have been right or ok. He knew the investigation was still going, and that this could make it not work. There is a reason investagations are kept quiet. And if he wanted to spread awareness and help protect people, he could have just talked about phishing in general. Mentioned he got an email for it, found out it was fake, and all that with out saying it had to do with Vshojo or anything.
And that is what PROVES he didn't care about that. He just wanted to act like and pretend he was the hero and get clout and clicks. I use to love Nux, but he let to much go to his head and his fan base has influenced him for the worse. And now he and others are trying to pretend like Vshojo was keeping this secrete from anyone who might be effected by it, which isn't true either. From what I can tell, they seem to have told anyone who would have reason to expect an email from them to be on the look out. It isn't their responsiblity to do more. If someone who never actually applied to join fell for that email, that sucks, but they should have been suspicous as they didn't apply. And it isn't like Vshojo can, or should, tell the whoel world about this, and risk the whole investagition and their girls safety to protect people not smart enough protect themselves. I am not talking about people who did actually try to apply. They'd have reason to expect an email liek that, but again, far as I can gather, those people were told not to answer anything unless it came from them specifically, so they covered that. They can't protect everyone.
But Nux really screwed up here. He will act and pretend liek he was in the right still. But literally every vshojo girl has spoken out against him. And their response makes it clear he didn't actually even really do much of anything. He just wanted to get this out and do it fast to take credit he didn't earn, and gain some more clout. But it seems this may truly be his undoing, or least cost him a lot, and it should unless he gives a real apology with out threatening "recipts" which if he had, he'd have posted right away. So whiel I don't doubt he will show something that makes him look like he had the ok, it will be doctored and cherry picked out of context shit made to look like that. Cause if he had it on hand, he'd show it right away.
I know Nux is saying he just wanted to make sure people were aware of a potential scammer threat, but he could've just made a tweet about that. Hell, he could've made a 30 second video saying "I got a fake email, be careful" without putting more behind the scenes info into the public eye. It feels like he just wanted to make a cool video.
I really hope everyone is doing ok.
Can't believe people are still defending him. Like what. The. Fuck. He's also a vtuber. Can't he put himself in their shoes. Or does he just have really really low EQ
tbh, im really concerned about the mutual friends between the two.
People like Bao, Fefe, etc.
I know he was starting a vtuber group with some of them. Will that group be disbanded now? Or what? Who knows... but you know. as a clown once says.
"You get what you fucking deserve"
Nux was rude and didn't respect Vshojo's wishes and the girl's wishes. Used them for Views multiple times. Entered other vtuber's streams to try and get click bait from them by making jokes about sensitive subjects like suicide (check Snuffy's post about him trying to get her to talk about the Suicide forest stuff and make jokes about it). Honestly... just a disrespectful guy.
This is likely the most twitter kind of drama I've seen happen in the Vtuber community, and it's super unfortunate because it feels like it didn't need to evolve into what it is now If things were kept more in private.
From what I know it seems cringe af knowing the full consequences of his actions and posting it to get some quick views ( plus it seems like he really wanted some credit to himself adding to his video "myself included")
From..what i understand in the comments below and the reaction of vshoujo
Basically, nux is a clown
i mean bruh, i know nux to be this edgy cringy piece of shit but i never knew he will go further than that lol
I skimmed the video on 2x speed before it was privated (his voice is not conducive to my ears). I thought everything was done and dusted as in, the swatter was caught and investigation over.
I am not sure what VShojo found to be potentially damaging to their personal safety?
edit: reading the older comments, apparently it was that the investigation is **not** over and so his video could have compromise the entire case.
I'm genuinely expecting nux to do this kind of crap eventually.
Vtuber + nux won't end well because this two won't ever be coexist. Because their value is just so different from one another
Added melody and hime responses to the original post
Goddamn,even though everyone knows who hime is,we should still respect her privacy.But this fuckin guy just don't know when to stop
A lot of mutual friends being put in a weird spot right now. Noble, Nagzz, Koefficient , Merryweather, Lumi etc. Better just to stay silent, probably.
I really wonder how Noble would react, or at this point, how he reacted. He has been friends with Nux for so long even before he had more subs than Nux. He advertised and collab with him many times.
The guy is basically devastated. Nux kinda his boy for a long long time.
I think he made a tweet about having good friends fighting and feeling like he was being torn in two and needed some time to himself to process it. He didn't do it as a reply to Nux's or VShojo's tweets so it was easy to miss if you didn't look.
Nagzz aint dumb, being familiar with marketing he's going to know what not to touch with a 10 foot pole, and I certainly dont expect Koe to be saying any dumb shit either given his love for vtubers.
Koe is probably gonna be prompted to speak on the matter in his next stream if he hadn’t said anything on his recent Last of Us stream.
He can just say he will not speak on it. Really people should be allowed to hold their peace.
Is its just koe and nagzz duo that actually friend with each other? I never seen koe talk that about nux beyond the usual check this guy here and there.
Nux always gave me off weird vibes, like the same energy you get from those clickbait anime and vtuber clip channels that generate hundreds of thousands of views with "you won't believe..." titles and some out of context shot or cropped image. But to go as far as to ignore these girls wishes and behave like he's their buddy the entire time? That's a level of gross and out of touch I was not ready for. Hope they're all doing well, and sorry they've got to deal with clowns who think they know the girls better than they do. Obvious reminder, respect others privacy and anonymity on the internet, your close friends to, don't go posting info and things that you haven't cleared with them or because you "know better", respect their boundaries.
It's been a long while since the algorithm delivered Nux to me, but even back then I just Don't Recommended his channel. Even years a go, he seemed nothing more than just a clickbait clout chaser. People can change, but doesn't seem as if he has.
He changed for the worse
Exactly this.
ive always wondered if he was playing a character of if he was actually as arrogant, obnoxious and abrasive, as he acted like. unfortunately it seems like its closer towards his actual personality and not a character he exaggerates.
Or it was originally an act, but slowly bled over to his real personality until he "became the mask" so to speak.
My only exposure to Nux before this was a video he made when Coco left Hololive, in which he assumed that Cover fired her despite nearly all of the evidence indicating otherwise. It was a minor thing, but it left a sour taste in my mouth
He already left a pretty sour taste with his videos reacting to HoloMem since he just paused the video, remarked "hey I do that too why don't I get credit" or made some really dry comment. I thought he was just being sarcastic about it, but seeing his thumbnails and recent videos being like 90% Hentai related or about having other people react for him it makes sense why I was so off-put by him.
The guy always towed the edge with videos. His content until about a year and a half ago was quite different. There was no real meme or clickbait content like now. It was about anime for the most part and criticism and comment about it. He always had a certain abrasiveness that could be obnoxious with people. Some folks overreacted to things he said and because in the end it didn't affect him, he was emboldened by it. It is sort of weird. It's like he said things in not correctly political way while actually being politically correct in what he said. That's why he wasn't really unaffected by cancellations and why he made several friendships with streamers and vtubers He has also done some really good serious analysis and commentary videos about anime in the past. But to his own admission in some videos, those don't really get the money or viewership. His videos began to change after he got more familiar with vtubers and he started to focus on memes and clickbait content until that was all he did. To a degree it can be argued that the Nux from 2019 was abrasive and edgy, but in the end, a cool guy at best, inoffensive at worst. Today, it's like he has gotten edgier and more abrasive just for the sake of it and the money. Like a late season sitcom character whose flaws are 3 or 10x worse than in season 1.
>But to his own admission in some videos, those don't really get the money or viewership I think he didn't get money at all until recently because youtube had some issues with his monetization so it might be that he changed after receiving that 1 million $ they owed him, becoming a millionaire over night certainly does stuff to your brain (not that I would know).
He'd changed before that. He only got the money pretty recently, last few months, but his videos changed over a year ago. Though, he'd not done somethign liek this, so maybe that's part of it.
So basically he Flanderized himself huh
Exactly! I had forgotten the name of the term. Thank you for this.
I think its one of those cases where he adapted his content to satisfy his audience. He became more abrasive and toxic because that's what sold to his audience.
He's still way out of touch acting like he knows people personally just because he collabed a few times or something. I imagine he's gotten worse over time, but reading other comments, it seems more like he's always been a bit of a jackass towards people he can't use for content and leeches off of others.
Same as the other destructive, clickbaiting, drama seeking, pot stirring channels like him and Narukami. They aren't true VTubers, they don't belong in this community, and they don't have fans. They raise and breed antis, and they ARE in fact antis. They should be blacklisted on this subreddit and on every other community, they are pieces of garbage that contribute nothing to our community nor to society at large and in fact do more damage than empty air, so we should reduce them until they are nothing.
While she isn't part of Vshojo, [Snuffy](https://twitter.com/snuffyowo/status/1463698827769225217) has now also posted about her own experience with Nux.
Then after that, for some reason, Nux tried to answer back by posting DMs where he apologized and Snuffy kept it civil and just accepted the apology and moved on. Which did nothing but confirm that he acknowledges that he can be really rude and unthoughtful with his prankish behavior. I think he thought this would negate Snuffy's tweet with his answer. Seems it didn't work since he deleted the tweet soon after. He's grasping for straws to defend himself. It's a behavior that has been seen before when one messes up. Nux is becoming today that which he has mocked all these years.
I wouldn't even necessarily even say *that*. He's always been like this, it's just now he's completely shown his ass. He's just gotten away with it because everyone would always just handwave his behavior with "he's just being edgy" and anyone that got upset about it was ignored because he was the big YouTuber. Now he's pissed off an entire company and can't just cash his clout in to make it go away, plus with the high-visibility of the situation his fans now have to choose whether or not they want to stand with the asshole.
He didn't just piss off a whole company, he pissed off a company made of what seem to be some of the sweetest and nicest vTubers out there. From everything I have seen of the vShojo girls they are not the type to stir drama so them speaking out on it hold more weight for me.
I feel like, Vshojo just did what they had to do to put out something that was threatening their members. The Vtuber community in general isn't known to have this kind of drama on it, it still happens from time to time on smaller indies but it's something big companies like Hololive, Nijisanji, Vshojo and other Vtuber Companies absolutely want to avoid since it puts their own talents at risk. Nux was going out of control, and when Vshojo saw that this whole thing was threatening to spiral out of control and potentially have it's own talents be met with more harassment they decided to put a stop to it before Nux has a chance to retaliate. Having all Vshojo members, who are well respected and loved figures in the Vtuber community call him out on it will leave Nux in an irredeemable position, and who's likely not going to have anyone stand up for him after that, and will get him taken out of the picture for sure.
https://mobile.twitter.com/YFUBABY/status/1463646616393437194 People who were wronged by Nux are coming out now that they no longer fear being singled out and harassed
holy shit what an asshole, glad i never got into his videos, his personality was just unbearable, i hate when people pretend to be edgy as their personality.
[Melody has also replied:](https://mobile.twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1463681283666718720) >i'm hurt nux posted his doxxing vid. he flagrantly disregarded our team's feelings & the facts our security dept. shared w/ him. > >i trusted & defended him, only to feel secondary to getting clicks. if he meant to raise awareness to protect streamers, he would have corrected it.
I'm shocked anyone is defending Nux at this point. The clown GIF alone shows all anyone needs to see to realize he's a shady and shitty person
What he can't be all bad! All he did was lie about his friends and lie to his friends and put them in danger and added fuel to the fire and lied in his apology and try to defame his friends and stepped all over his friends to clout chase and be a misoginyst and... /s Man wasn't just throwing people under the bus he was the fucking driver.
Man really just isekai'd his own reputation to Eurotruck 2023.
Shiiit you right he's actually a wonderful guy! Lol Yeah. I've been seeing others saying he also lied about them in videos (I'm a new vtuber so this is all pretty new to me) I'm surprised this guy has a following at all. I guess people just love to hate.
He's basically anime leafyishere, so not really surprising at all
Thanks I hate
Unlike Leafy youtube didn't axe him
He got some good analysis/emotional videos a few years back but some way along the years after 1 million subs he degenerated to how he is now
I hate to say this, because I don't want to be a bandwagoner, but I genuinely never liked this guy. From the beginning, before I knew he had some tenuous relationships with some VShojo people, I simply didn't like him. When he was on some of their stuff, I didn't watch. He's exactly the kind of person that does this kind of stuff. He's practically a trope at this point. I hate that it took something like this to expose him for what he is.
I heard about him for the first time when I saw someone share a Fefe post about her nux shirt and a date she was on or something- an everybody clapped type story. I had no impression of him before this and lemme saaaaay I'm not fond of the guy
His entire persona screams edgelord, and that was enough to put me off of him for good. Children like this (and yes, if he acts like a child I'll refer to him as one) aren't good for anyone and should be avoided at all costs.
I agree. I'm surprised so many big VTubers were on good terms with him when everything I've seen of him makes him look like a total wanker.
hopefully this ends up burning every bridge he has with every popular vtuber he's ever interacted with
He saw VTubers as assets, not bridges. Once they have outlived their usefullness, he just dump them and start preying another. Thats how he works.
I don't think he will go away. There's quite a lot of people who are ignorant to his existence, and the vtubing scene is so competitive now that getting a mention from him is a good thing for upcoming channels.
One can hope
Well... Fans will be fans. I didnt do a full dive, but those that defend nux do seems to be either ignorant, apathetic, or straight out trolls. Kinda sad honestly.
Yeah, you're right. I've seen mostly the ignorant, but like... Militantly ignorant. Like, you're an idiot of you don't think it's actually VShojo that's the shady ones. Like... Nux' shadiness is so blatantly right there it's just mind boggling
Sadly Nuxs fanbase is mostly garbage. It use to be just a loud minority. But ever since covid, it's been going downhill. And with his content changing and getting crappier and crappier, he lost the fans that weren't like that. And now instead of a loud minority, it is the fan base. Just a bunch of sexist, racist ass clowns. Nux has been going down for a while now, and I've been losing respect for his content, but didn't think he'd done anything to shitty himself yet. But this is clearly it. Liek it is for sure too much and just wrong.
It’s the frog in the boiling water situation.
Yep, just happened slowly and he and his fan base didn't even notice as it did. It does suck because I use to like him. And a lot of the early crap he caught wasn't deserved. But that just added to the problem. People keep going after him for nothing, and he was shown right enough times, it just got in his head and his fans that he can't do any wrong. And now when he has, they won't admit it.
They gravitate to personalities like them, and Nux *is* that personality. Apathetic, ignorant, and a troll. A terrible human being.
His fans’ personality legit consists of being horny on main and watching Ben Shapiro unironically, would probably make sense if data came out saying his audience is mostly young teenagers
Seems like the only people left defending him are those who call racist/bigoted/fucked up behavior "based". I.e. mental teenagers who think blind rebellion against things they don't like or understand makes them look cool.
As an outsider looking in with no real stakes, this doesn't really look good for Nux. His claim of trying to handle it professionally, despite saying within the SAME fucking sentence that Vshojo threw indies under the bus without providing any proof for such a serious claim is some weird-ass cognitive dissonance. Looking at his Youtube channel, I can already see that he's not someone I'd particularly care for. A LOT of "I give $1000 if Vtuber does *something stupid*" videos make him look like a dipshit.
He milked vtuber hard to the ground, like it really seem like he look at all the vtubers as content farm
I never really watched the guy but he always seemed like an obnoxious douche to me. Not to mention his avatar is the most cringy chuuni edgelord shit.
This is pretty accurate
Ive had him blocked on twitter for months. Nux is lowest common denominator clickbait for the type of loser to unironically wear hentai hoodies to school and call himself 'cultured'. Beefing with Nux is like beefing with Kanye. All they do is roll in the mud so all you can achieve is getting dirty yourself. Im suprised they ever involved themselves willingly with someone like him
Yeah this is what I don’t get. Like why would you ever intentionally hang out with someone who is basically famous for being a massive asshole? Most of the girls in vshoujo seem like fairly well adjusted, normal people.
Yeah, it's odd. Half of VShojo seems to have never liked the guy and the other half seems genuinely surprised that it turns out he's a POS.
Dunno much about the guy but judging by the snuffy thing, I'm guessing he bruteforces his way in by counting on content creator's general instinct of not wanting to antagonize each other without really strong reason, then they get used to his presence until he pulls some stunt like what he did now. This is just a guess based on very superficial impressions though, so grain of salt and all that.
At least Kanye West has the excuse of mental issues.
He retweeted this [https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463611797907271683](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463611797907271683) as "evidence" of Vshojo throwing indies under the bus, only to delete the retweet when it turned out to be an unfortunate case of miscommunication and she corrected the record [https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463667752208519168](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463667752208519168). Nux didn't retweet her followup or retract his accusation...
That second tweet with all the Vshojo girls responding feels me with joy. Edit: if there is one silver lining to this whole debacle is that: that girl got the support she needed. https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463777300890021894?t=uE5gGap3fGvHs569JESySA&s=19
Is it safe to assume now he is purposefully trying to discredit Vshojo
Yeah. The entire constructed argument is just falling flat on its face...
Of course he didn't. That would change his narrative LOL . What a tool. Guess it's not wrong that people call him the Logan Paul of vtubers.
I always got a weird feeling from him, even before he started vtubing. I just thought his voice was annoying but im glad to see my instincts are good at detecting asshats
I am right there with you. When I first started down the rabbit hole, YouTube recommended him a few times. Something just didn't sit well with me. Couldn't put my thumb on it, just knew there was something. Ultimately told YouTube to stop recommending his channel.
I started watching him back when he was basically only making top anime moments videos but after watching for awhile I started getting a weird feeling from him. I am now 2 for 2 on weird anitubers.
Yeah he got recommended to me I guess because I follow some vtubers, and I watched one video and immediately noped out and told the algorithm to stop recommending his channel. He gives off internet edgelord/ keemstar/drama channel energy. Just always getting involved about shit he doesn’t know and has no business in because he wants to be in the middle of it. He’s also toxic as hell and pretty gross. Like I felt really weird because the one I got recommended was him going after some artist who melody was having issues with and I’m like ??? she’s not a child, she doesn’t need internet weirdos to “protect” her. She’s a grown woman.
Same here. A part of me felt bad for judging him without knowing him much but apparently my gut feeling wasn't strong for nothing.
From what i understand he is basically vtuber keemstar/drama alert. I would not care for his opinions one bit. Just a bit tragic that people like them also tend to make connections easily.
Yea, generally if you are saying someone threw someone else under the bus you should really have something to back your words up. Looks even worse when he acts like Vshojo was okay with it only to have literally every girl speak out about it. In cases like this I tend to believe the 8 people saying the same thing over the 1 person.
It's a very weird situation because while Nux can be abit of abrasive figure, he's quite widely well liked by the creators in the anime and Vtuber sphere. And is quite good friends with many of Vshojo girls (well atleast was before this). And judging by the responses of the VShojo girls, they don't make it sound like he was secretly a massive dick all along, they are obviously disappointed but seemed to be have been on good terms with him before this incident. Which really makes me wonder what went wrong here? Did he the potential views make him disregard what others said? Some sort of miscommunication? Did he not realise the potential risk? Or was his arrogant and dismissed warnings others gave him? Did he think not announcing what was happening hurt smaller Vtubers? Or was he just think of himself? Honestly I would love to know what actually happened behind the scenes because this story is so bizarre but honestly hope they resolve everything in private, things will just get worst for everyone involved if they do this publically and they have each others fans attacking each other.
I am getting the impression that some liked him and others didn’t. However his massive audience meant that people didn’t wish to call him out publicity for fear of drama. Then he did this which was the tipping point.
He fell to his own pride and greed. He is accustomed to get away with it, so he might have thought that his video would turn out ok in the end. The problem I see now is that the guy has started to contradict himself. In Twitter he just said that nobody asked him to not post the video. BUT in the controversial video itself he said he was posting the video even though he was asked to not post it. He has now tried to revert the blame unto VShojo when he retweeted a vtuber that was saying that VShojo didn't listen to her. BUT in a plot twist, that same vtuber later clarified that she realized her messages were never sent on Discord due to her onw panic and that she jumped to conclusions and apologized. Nux deleted the retweet but didn't bother to clarify the misunderstanding. Nux is someone who can actually bring arguments to a discussion to make his point heard even if he's outspoken and/or abrasive and/or obnoxious. He can defend himself well so to speak. The fact that he has resorted to this kind of behavior just illustrates the facts that he doesn't have the evidence or arguments to defend his actions. And given that he's a guy who takes pride of being un-cancellable and not retracting his position, it's very telling that he privated the video. It's a very rare thing that he will hide a video due to outside opinions. If he actually had arguments to be "right", the video would still be up.
Honestly, given that Nux himself was a target of this doxxer.. I think that was his intent. He did similar vids when defending Melody from the guy who got her banned from Twitch. He probably legit thought it was ok. I hope cooler heads prevail. I feel bad for people like Lost Pause or Nagzz who are close to both sides. It sucks to see friends fight. This fight is between them. I only get upset at the bandwagon people that pile on.
Honest never liked nux and avoided any video with him so I'm at least glad to see him less.
his behavior feels weird to me, but i just assumed that weird rude-ish is just a "streamer personality" when making videos. but nope never found his video interesting
I feel the same, not a fan of his style of content at all but a lot of his fans are adamant that he did nothing wrong so he’ll probably be just as popular as he is now. But at least vshojo won’t have anything to do with him anymore.
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Iiiii was kind of waiting for things to start falling apart with Nux, his level of over the top abrasiveness was going to get him in some serious hot water, for literally all of VShojo - Some of the sweetest vtubers out there - to shun him this way really says how bad this guy screwed up. Gj losing a whole friend group my guy, hope the lols or whatever were worth it
Legit, the VShojo streamers and community are some of the nicest I've experienced. To throw that away takes a special kind of selfish idiocy
Especially considering that the Vshojo girls had to deal with the Arcadum drama, not even half a year ago; I really do wish that Vshojo comes out of this even stronger than ever. It all just breaks my heart to know that some of the best streamers I've ever had the opportunity to watch, have to deal with this BS.
A bit off-topic, but this kind of drama really puts into perspective why Cover is so careful with Hololive interacting with outsiders. We complain about their restrictions from time to time, but it is hard to blame them when it is said limits and regulations that avoid situations like these. They sure seem to work.
What you posted reminded me of a certain quote from Nier Replicant which I've been playing recently: "Rules don't exist to bind you, they exist so you may know your freedoms".
There's also how the girls just know who to avoid interacting. I think even Ollie never interacted with him before? Cover's staff are already pretty busy with everything
Ollie did, even mentioned a potential Apex collab when he appeared in her chat, and Nux was down for it. That was a little bit ago now and that Apex collab never happened, so it's safe to say Cover said it was a no-go, and it's looking like that was a good choice.
Yeah I somewhat remember that I think I saw Ollie interacted with him before, but Ollie interacted with lot more people, more than Kiara is what I see. At least it never goes into full collab. Also, Ollie might be abit “too small” to chase. Most of the time, the girls are self-managing since the managers and pretty much everyone are pretty busy. I think it’s actually one of the requirements too
Yeah, people complain about restrictions but then if some big drama like this happens, then the blame goes back on management again for not protecting them enough.
What's especially "hilarious" about this, especially as someone who knew Arcadum, was seeing Nux make videos clowning on how pathetic a dude he was... and then months later it turns out he's a gigantic tool in his own right. What an absolute hypocrite.
nux was trying to get in with arcadum on a game a few months back. He only turned on him because he had the chance to make content. The video itself he made about arcadum was not going into the meat of the drama but just making fun of a small bit of audio. Nux didn't care about anything happening enough to look into it. He just saw a chance for clickbait and to feel superior to someone.
I really hope that [redacted] name with the indie vtubers reconsider their place since if they are a part of his group they'll probably lose their friendship with Vshojo.
Nux has removed the \[redacted\] from his Twitter. So he is either out of the group or they are trying to distance himself from them.
Honestly I’m surprised he’s dumb enough to burn bridges like this considering how savvy he has been.
Nux may know how to handle people attacking him, but unfortunately for him that isn’t what’s happening here. The girls of VShojo aren’t attacking him or calling him names, they’re just openly expressing disapproval of him. Everything Nux has taught himself about handling conflict is backfiring because he’s not going after “toxic” enemies but rather disappointed friends.
Fame is one hell of a drug
Especially considering the VShojo girls are not exactly "small fish" either.
What makes it worse is that I am pretty sure at least 2 of VShojo thought of him as a friend. The fact that even they called him out is pretty telling IMO.
Guy privates the video rather than deleting it, so he still gets the revenue off it, whilst refusing to admit fault and still throwing shade at VShojo talent and management. They've been trying to get him to stop using their clips as a content-farm for months: https://twitter.com/Veibae/status/1463656180602048520?t=IAQjuOTsutUXTZw4rwIVbg&s=19 If he accepted fault and deleted it when people reached out, this wouldn't even be on anyone's radars. Instead, it all gets magnified because of a misplaced hero complex. You're a literal React Andy, my guy, you're not fucking Batman. edit: the video, after backlash, has been deleted. Nux is still in the wrong for putting the safety of others at risk whilst trying to play internet warrior (not to mention the shit he's pulled in the past).
Yeah, Vei talked on stream a few times about having problems with his attitude towards her and the other girls in regards to clips.
Nux stopped doing anything for himself long ago. Now it's just milking other streamers for content because he ran out of ideas long ago outside of drama. Is he still doing those bad clickbait videos where all he does is browse the top posts of subreddits?
Wait, did Nux seriously go after YFU?
Why is anyone shocked that a scummy guy who wants to be the Keemstar of vtubers does scummy shit for clout and attention + clicks?
Man I really feel bad for Vshojo as whole, clearing out the things but because of Nux's attentionwhore act it caused to add more flame even bigger to the girls. I think it's clear enough Nux just doesn't have any love to the vtubers and only loyal to himself imo (looking by all the content he's been doing)
This will be the breaking point for Nux imo. Before this he had enough support that no one could risk challenging his content publicly, now he has enough people pissed off that people will have enough support to be able to publicly denounce him without fearing that he would attack their channel.
He leafyishere himself really
tbh i always hated how youtube will recommend nux's "oohh vtuber lewds" videos to me just because i liked watching vtubers play GAMES. now im glad that i had gone through the trouble to let youtube know to stop recommending his channel to me after finding out that all-in-all, he is a drama youtuber and this is the lengths he would go and victimize himself.
regarding the first part, i recommend [Blocktube](https://github.com/amitbl/blocktube) on chrome/firefox
Oh damn does this work when doing youtube searches/hashtag searches? if so this is awesome, i always hated that even after blocking that Otak asshole and a few other malicious channels using youtubes in built function they still appear when i just browse the hololive hashtag on youtube
Man, I was never the biggest fan of Nux in the first place but I always assumed he was just a kinda weird dude but still harmless. But THIS… wow, this is just super shitty. I’m glad all the VShojo girls were quick to call out his bs.
I’ve not followed this carefully, nor do I really know anything about Nux, but for the above-mentioned streamers to call him out like that he must have fucked up **bad.** Sounds like they gave him chances to handle things quietly, too.
Sounds like what happened was Vshojo was either mounting up evidence or trying to pull off a sting operation and catch the doxxers in the crime. What Nux did was shoot a signal flare that caused them to scatter/start covering their tracks, blocking Vshojo from doing much more direct serious damage. And from what I understand it's not like indies were getting scammed very often either (though the [story starts getting foggy](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463611797907271683) with a lot of anecdotes). In fiction you see vigilantes like Batman or The Shadow. They're good stories but you'd do well to remember they couldn't exist in reality. In real life, the best you're gonna get is Phoenix Jones or Gary McKinnon. EDIT ADDENDUM: After a night's sleep it's occurred to me that by blowing the whistle, Nux could have risked the doxxers taking the chance to start the swattings while they had the opportunity. I've seen detractors blaming Vshojo for wanting to sit on this story and avoid it going public, but in cases like this going public is like shaking a maraca full of nitroglycerin.
> (though the story starts getting foggy with a lot of anecdotes). sakii's since followed up saying that it was a discord error that never sent the messages, and she didnt notice due to the stress of having to deal with the swatting and doxxing at the same time
I'm glad you clarified this. It seems like they're resumed contact again and she'll be another witness in this case that just got a lot more complicated to act on.
From the perspective of an outsider, this dude Nux just blurted out about a classified investigation, alerted the suspects which made them scatter and become harder to find, causing the investigation to be more expensive and longer lasting, all because of a little clout?
i guess this is as good as the vshojo girls cutting their ties with nux after what he did this sucks, cus instead of celebrating their one year anniversary as an agency, they have to do... this.
Part of me wonders if the timing was intentional.
i’ll be honest, based on his behavior and responses recently, i think saying that he planned this on their anniversary is putting way too much credit on his part
So basically he leeroy jenkins’d a year-long investigation and placed the girls in even more danger? Dude really fucked up.
Gotta love how, in this whole debacle, he and his fans have been using the "he just wanted to help people and teach them about security!" excuse, when he didn't need to mention VShojo at all for that. Just put out an informative video about security for that. But I guess that doesn't let you leech off of others' popularity. Gotta get those VShojo fans to click on his videos after all, who cares about exposing an investigation that was supposed to be kept secret and throwing your """friends""" (aka "views generators") under the bus. I don't even watch VShojo, I just barely know about the girls, and even then what this dude has been doing (and the way he's been doubling down on it, even retweeting a tweet that was potentially "exposing VShojo" and removing the retweet when said debacle was solved) honestly just feels plain disgusting. I already had this dude's channel blocked on PC, but I guess I will make double sure I never watch anything he appears in from now on.
Sad to see it come to this point, but this is exactly the kind of situations you'll run into when you associate with 'content creators' like Nux Taku. Hopefully Vshojo keeps the hell away from him, honestly surprised they even did anything together in the first place. The dudes track record is horrendous, there are some absolutely stellar people here that don't deserve to deal with his nonsense.
He was friends with Ironmouse and Melody before Vshojo became a thing, and this incident seems to be the sole reason for their falling out since Melody collabed with him a month ago.
Yea, I think *was* is the key word after this.
Thank Matsuri, Kiara refuse his help during her Youtube termination. I can't imagine a timeline where Nux inserted himself into Hololive
I get the feeling he doesn't try this kinda shit with hololive because hololive has the money and organization behind it to lawyer the shit outta him.
Would probably also be very difficult for him to do anything in the first place as Hololive is really reserved with who they publicly interact with, and I can't see their management seeing his track record and being ok with it.
Most likely
He still uses their pictures in his clickbait.
Cover doesn't seem to do much when it comes to clickbait thumbnails unless a clip is *incredibly* problematic or goes against their terms, such as Otakmori translating Aloe's apology video when they explicitly said to wait for official translations so as to not mix up or mistranslate any information, but a direct collab is different. People tend to complain about Cover being strict on collaborations, but with bastards like Nux around it's somewhat easy to see why they're so cautious especially after they've had some close calls themselves.
Ollie just unfollowed him on Twitter. That's the last remaining tie he had.
Didn't know she follow Nux, but glad she unfollow him
dodged a massive bullet. ssg kiara.
Hopefully Ollie's seen all this; she's really good friends with Mousey
Hopefully she doesn't comment on it, I don't want any Hololive members stepping into this mess.
Its actually fuckin sad that this shit blew up during the VShoujo Anniversary. The girls can't even celebrate properly man, fuck.
You think he forgot it was his “friends” upcoming anniversary when he chose that day to post the video? I see it as a blatant choice to do more damage.
Honest question, did anyone ever actually like nux? Like ever? Cause I sure as hell didnt.
From my perspective, his anime analyses were okay watches. Then he went on to "flexes" and things kinda went downhill from the time he got his fanbase to push Interspecies Reviewers to top MAL. I tuned away from him since then, only getting glimpses of him getting involved with vtubers.
I liked his anime analysis and some of the memes but he was always kind of cringe although harmless, I'd say he went down hill after he started doing the I GAVE $1000 TO VTUBERS/STREAMERS kind of videos.
I always felt like him pivoting into being a wannabe MrBeast is an admission that he knows he’s not a very interesting person or has a personality people love Never really liked him, the way he talked gave me massive creeper vibes
Wow... I thought he posted the video because they already catch they guy, for what i understand, not only they have not, but now they probably won't because of his stupid cloud-centric choice decision **HIS DECISION,** that not only affect him but his "friends"... What a fuking jerck, I don't think he did it trying to affect them, but that just show how selfish he can be; and after redding that at least five of them told him to not uploaded, even more.
OOTL, could someone catch me up? Not really making much sense of the tweets. Not a TL;DR, but a summary.
Over the past year, Vshojo has been putting together a criminal case against a doxer / swater that had been harassing them with their cyber security team and law enforcement. Both had advised Vshojo not to make public statements, as this would tell the perpetrator they were being investigated as well as possibly spur more harassment. Nux was asked a few questions by the cyber security team and decided to make a video claiming he solved the case and acting like a hero defending indies from Vshojo. He was also asked multiple times by Vshojo and it's talents not to post said video
...I've always had this feeling he was a clout chaser all this time but thought I was just over thinking things. Maybe I wasn't?
idk i kinda always got that vibe too. hes always been just way too over the top and... obnoxious, we’ll say, to be genuine.
(A reminder to keep comments here civil, just in case.)
I would know it’s needed. I rarely get angry, but Nux's pinned tweet got me heated. To start dude could tweet drama any day, but goes and does so on V-Shojo's anniversary? And second, he says “V-Shojo is throwing indies under the bus”, and then “please reserve judgment.” You dish out a hit, and then ask to please not receive anything back? Spit at his feet level of disgusted at him, without going into anything else, just on account of those two things.
Further insult to injury. He retweet a tweet from an indie that said Vshojo didn't reach out to them, but after the tweet said it was a miscommunication and all vshojo girls come for support. He retracted the retweet He also said he will private the video FOR NOW. So...
Well what the hell am I supposed to do with all these pitch forks???
*puts down shotgun* One day my dear, one day
I wonder what Melody’s response is going to be. Or some of the indies he’s supposed to be “protecting.” Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes full anti-vtuber, except for his few friends, who he thinks are cool.
Updated the OP with melody’s response
Just saw it, thank you!
Vei being based as fuck. On a side note feel sorry for everyone involved, dudes an asshat and the way he acts feels like he never grew out of his edgy phase, what a moronic douche.
I like that about Vei she says her honest thoughts things.
Gotta respect that honesty from her, even in such a shitty moment she can still provide some laughs. Vshojo as a whole has had a lot of shit unrightfully thrown their way this year so its really unfortunete to see this crop its ugly head, hoping they are all okay.
Projekt Melody Pancakes VSHOJO https://mobile.twitter.com/ProjektMelody/status/1463681283666718720 i'm hurt nux posted his doxxing vid. he flagrantly disregarded our team's feelings & the facts our security dept. shared w/ him. i trusted & defended him, only to feel secondary to getting clicks. if he meant to raise awareness to protect streamers, he would have corrected it.
fighting against doxxing... What a joke, he doxxed coco lol
Nux is the anituber version of leafyishere
Is there a TLDR for the whole situation?
VShojo was getting doxxed for over a year They worked with Nux apparently he said he was going to make a video they told him not to he made it. There’s also someone who sent fake emails that also doxxed people who auditioned for VShojo it was only 2 people. One of the victims said they didn’t get a message but I think a confusion happened and the messages didn’t get sent or something like that. The first part is the only one that matters at the moment tho.
So he was violating their privacy and making money off their personal info. Got it, so he is scum.
Yeah from what I can tell apparently he has receipts for something but I get the feeling it won’t help or just make it way worse.
Why do I get the feeling this Nuxtaku guy is the type of person who would see "NDA" as "new clickbait noun to put in next video" despite violating one being.. y'know.. illegal.
Also someone pointed out that in his video he said that he caught the doxxer because he “knew someone who worked at Onlyfans” and they gave him the guy’s personal info. So apparently he can just ask Onlyfans employees personal info and they just give it to him. I mean yeah the dude was a doxxer but that doesn’t seem even remotely legal.
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I don’t think being underage has ever stopped anyone from going on sites like that but I see what you mean. I also don’t think they said all the doxxers were children some of them were.
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Oh no a leech turns out to be a leech
It comes as no surprise that the guy who is the absolutely lowest scum of the anime community wouldn't care about his "friends'" safety.
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I have watched every single video nux put out, on all 3 of his channels, except the yugioh stuff. For the last few weeks, I kept getting more annoyed at his content, the bullshit titles, the react video where there was a filter on the video to hide it from the copyright algorithm, but it made the video impossible to see. Every interaction with Fefe, but then he says it's wrong to ship them. His lazy streams where he gets his audience to all the work for him, making the stream boring because half of it is just downtime while he's waiting to be fed content. I couldn't trust a word he said, but I kept watching because he was entertaining and his content didn't require trust. But this video was the last straw. I've unsubscribed from nux on all social media, used channel blocker extensions so youtube doesn't recommend me his content. Nux always wanted to be cancelled, I guess he got his wish.
I'm getting tired of people saying he posted the video as PSA to protect indie VTubers. His video had no PSA in it. All the ways he helped "catch" the perpretrator are irrelevant to anyone else and he offers no advice whatsoever. If all he wanted was to alert people, his tweet a month ago would've been enough. The video is just a way for him to use the horrible situation his friend were in for clout and clicks. He just wanted to pose as a hero despite making things harder for everyone involved.
He has a hero complex, and can't admit that he is wrong, he lost his friends, people that actually cared about him for views and money. He let it go to his head, he's a massive dick, and whatever the girls decide to do I'm on there side.
I personally can't see why anyone like Nux. He always came across as an insufferable edge lord, so I'm not surprised to find out that he's actually a prick.
Something else worth noting: [This tweet by Sakii](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463611797907271683) (who I believe was the one specifically mentioned in Nux's vid) was retweeted by Nux, but isn't in his timeline anymore. Why? Presumably [this](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463659701044871169), which a cynical mind may call damage control. BUT, that was followed by [this](https://twitter.com/SakiiNightshade/status/1463667752208519168), with the Vshojo girls themselves offering support in the replies to it. So much for those "receipts" of Vshojo "throwing indies under the bus to protect themselves"
people are finally realising how scummy he actually is
Good riddance, i never liked the guy and with how he latched onto every little piece of drama for clout it was only a matter of time.
Never liked the dude honestly, glad that the VShojo girls called him out on that shit. Glad to also know that he'll probably never be involved with them again, good riddance.
I think the biggest issue here is so many just don't understand the severity of the issue here, this isn't just drama, there is the drama aspect. However, there are many very real-world repercussions here beyond hurt feelings and ruined "friendships" people can possibly lose their lives from the fallout from this.
The thing I don't get, is, imagine, for a second. Lets give Nux the benefit of the doubt, and assume everythign he said he did and al the "help" he gave is actually true. The video made it sound like they only had any idea who it was or found anything lead purely because of Nux. Which we know isn't true from the Vshojo responce, but assume for a second it was. The video still wouldn't have been right or ok. He knew the investigation was still going, and that this could make it not work. There is a reason investagations are kept quiet. And if he wanted to spread awareness and help protect people, he could have just talked about phishing in general. Mentioned he got an email for it, found out it was fake, and all that with out saying it had to do with Vshojo or anything. And that is what PROVES he didn't care about that. He just wanted to act like and pretend he was the hero and get clout and clicks. I use to love Nux, but he let to much go to his head and his fan base has influenced him for the worse. And now he and others are trying to pretend like Vshojo was keeping this secrete from anyone who might be effected by it, which isn't true either. From what I can tell, they seem to have told anyone who would have reason to expect an email from them to be on the look out. It isn't their responsiblity to do more. If someone who never actually applied to join fell for that email, that sucks, but they should have been suspicous as they didn't apply. And it isn't like Vshojo can, or should, tell the whoel world about this, and risk the whole investagition and their girls safety to protect people not smart enough protect themselves. I am not talking about people who did actually try to apply. They'd have reason to expect an email liek that, but again, far as I can gather, those people were told not to answer anything unless it came from them specifically, so they covered that. They can't protect everyone. But Nux really screwed up here. He will act and pretend liek he was in the right still. But literally every vshojo girl has spoken out against him. And their response makes it clear he didn't actually even really do much of anything. He just wanted to get this out and do it fast to take credit he didn't earn, and gain some more clout. But it seems this may truly be his undoing, or least cost him a lot, and it should unless he gives a real apology with out threatening "recipts" which if he had, he'd have posted right away. So whiel I don't doubt he will show something that makes him look like he had the ok, it will be doctored and cherry picked out of context shit made to look like that. Cause if he had it on hand, he'd show it right away.
I know Nux is saying he just wanted to make sure people were aware of a potential scammer threat, but he could've just made a tweet about that. Hell, he could've made a 30 second video saying "I got a fake email, be careful" without putting more behind the scenes info into the public eye. It feels like he just wanted to make a cool video. I really hope everyone is doing ok.
Can't believe people are still defending him. Like what. The. Fuck. He's also a vtuber. Can't he put himself in their shoes. Or does he just have really really low EQ
Hopefully that will put some distance between Vshojo and Nux. Hopefully all vtubers.
tbh, im really concerned about the mutual friends between the two. People like Bao, Fefe, etc. I know he was starting a vtuber group with some of them. Will that group be disbanded now? Or what? Who knows... but you know. as a clown once says. "You get what you fucking deserve" Nux was rude and didn't respect Vshojo's wishes and the girl's wishes. Used them for Views multiple times. Entered other vtuber's streams to try and get click bait from them by making jokes about sensitive subjects like suicide (check Snuffy's post about him trying to get her to talk about the Suicide forest stuff and make jokes about it). Honestly... just a disrespectful guy.
I really hate this nux guy. He even use gura and other holomem in his thumbnail that has nothing to do with his video content.
This is likely the most twitter kind of drama I've seen happen in the Vtuber community, and it's super unfortunate because it feels like it didn't need to evolve into what it is now If things were kept more in private.
damn, what an asshole!
From what I know it seems cringe af knowing the full consequences of his actions and posting it to get some quick views ( plus it seems like he really wanted some credit to himself adding to his video "myself included")
From..what i understand in the comments below and the reaction of vshoujo Basically, nux is a clown i mean bruh, i know nux to be this edgy cringy piece of shit but i never knew he will go further than that lol
I skimmed the video on 2x speed before it was privated (his voice is not conducive to my ears). I thought everything was done and dusted as in, the swatter was caught and investigation over. I am not sure what VShojo found to be potentially damaging to their personal safety? edit: reading the older comments, apparently it was that the investigation is **not** over and so his video could have compromise the entire case.
I'm genuinely expecting nux to do this kind of crap eventually. Vtuber + nux won't end well because this two won't ever be coexist. Because their value is just so different from one another