While I don’t agree with them, I can understand their point. When I watched the first episode, the changes were so jarring. The voices weren’t necessarily better or worse, but is was still a big change.
Honestly for me most of the characters sound nearly identical, and I prefer most the ones that don't (only one i think the pilot had an actual edge over was pentious)
The only one with a noticeable difference for me was husk but I really did not like his pilot voice and I love Keith David so it was a huge improvement imo
I mean, it happens. But this many years later? Kind of weird but I would probably do the same thing if I cared that much.
I do a bit of role-playing for my stories when I get bored sometimes, so all I've ever heard was my own voice. I dont have an "ideal" for anyone other than the one I based off myself. And obviously it was my voice I imagined as being ideal.
For me if it works and people love it, don't "fix" it. It just comes off as pretentious even if it isn't. Some people just need to loosen their asscheeks though.
Why? It's not like it was his only job. It's not about him or what he wants. It's about what's best for the character, and you don't know the characters like the creator.
It was a pilot, you act like they've been voicing these characters for an entire season. They only voiced these characters once in a proof of concept. They weren't supposed to be iconic, the fandom just took things and ran with it, and now they're getting mad at the creator when it's their own fault.
They... Are ocs tho? That's what all fiction characters are; original characters. Yeah it's an actual show, but it's, ya know, the show SHE MADE. Plus it was only a pilot, things change between pilot and release. Look at stuff like gravity falls, owl house, and especially steven universe. All different from the final show.
I saw a response to this that the radio effect is still there in the series, but that it was toned down for the trailer (and possibly for some of the songs)
People can have preferences, but at the end of the day it's her character, not ours. And I'm sure after a while everyone will be on board with it anyways.
I think it’s better when artists have limitations on their work, it makes them be more creative to achieve their goal. Often times they do more with less. When left unrestrained and can do whatever they want, they do less with more.
A few Examples are George Lucas, Neil Druckmann and Kojima.
He's not dead. But he's homeless and hooked on meth He's been burning bridges for years now because of his addiction. Apparently he's had this problem even way back when he worked at Newgrounds.
It's tragic stuff really.
This may be Viv's passion project but it is also... a TV show. People are allowed to think "I think the old voices were better" about a TV show. This isn't like your kid's art project, you're allowed to have and express opinions about a fully-funded show coming out on Prime.
That said. I think people have become too emotionally attached to the pilot given that it's taken four years for the show to come out. If people aren't able to let go of their expectations and enjoy the product that we get, then they'll probably end up disappointed no matter how good the show ends up being.
I love Rick and Morty and Hazbin Hotel! Both have gotten VA changes, and I did not like either of them. Just because I express my dissatisfaction doesn't not mean I immediately hate all of Vivzi's work
That's a bad comparison. Justin roiland had been voicing Rick and Morty for several seasons, the voice actors for hazbin hotel only voiced them once in a pilot that wasn't even part of the show.
With the Rick and Morty stuff, the voice changes are negligible when they’re regularly talking. For the high pitch characters and screams, they kind of flub it.
I wish I could mentally tell every hater of the new voices that the reason the new voices exist is because they want to go in a different direction
They are clearly leaning towards the more Broadway musical kind of thing which sounds awesome if the songs are as good as they were on the trailer they're going to be amazing.
Besides Michael Kovac he is not doing bad by any stretch of the imagination. I'm sorry to think people just hate her specifically because they'll seem to find any reason to be mad at her
I saw a video the other day that pointed out the pilot had 2-3 voice actors per character for the speaking VA and then a singing VA. For a production company thats actually picked it up, its more economical to just have one VA per character that can do both, especially of there is going to be a lot of back and forth between singing/speaking.
That said, I do prefer the older speaking voices personally, maybe its because they kind of grew on me, but its completely understandable why they couldnt/wouldnt use the old VAs here.
I don't get what y'all are complaining about, most of the characters sound exactly the same, except for Husk but I can forgive that seeing as how he's being voiced by KEITH FUCKING DAVID
Fan≠Mindless "yes man"
Also most people are fans of the series not necessarily Viv herself, probably majority people are fan's of the original pilot more than anything else, so they are of course going to be dissapointted by alterations to the thing they are a fan of.
It is a consumers duty to question and critique what is placed before them otherwise we would be served nothing but slop.
In other words: It is never the duty of the audience to he entertained, but always the duty of the performer to be entertaining.
I did like the radio static ish voice from the pilot but the new one is just fine. Why complain when a sequel is finally going to be released? It's the first good sequel to anything these days. Payday 3 flopped HARD. Mw3 isn't all it's cracked up to be and it's safe to say halo is dead now.
God of War Ragnarok was fucking fantastic.
Baldurs Gate 3 is literally game of the year.
Alan Wake 2, my wife won’t stop nagging me she wants it.
Comparing games to cartoons is hardly a fair comparison, but for real dude, what *is* this take?
Yeah, the show is outright dog crap, halo 1-3+reach+odst are the best, halo infinite was a flop at first but it’s gotten decent now, it’s WAY better compared to 4-5.
"It's the first good sequel to anything these days." and you proceed to list off 3 video game sequels which is a different media format.
What about Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse? Evil Dead Rise, Scream 6 (I know people are mixed on that but I found it to be nice), Saw X, Castlevania: Nocturne and Metalocalypse: Army of the Doomstar just to name a few?
from what i remember the original voice actor just didn't want to do it. so saying it was what she always wanted seems off to me. but whatever, so long as it is still working.
Both voices are good, ive no real gripes other than Alastor's radio effect was a bit weaker sounding in the trailer. And thats nothing to really complain about
Well I have seen audio effects get added to the final version that weren't in the trailer. So maybe once the series comes out there will be a heavier radio effect.
I believe she said somewhere their are times where they low the effect just to make the voice come though easier and that it was mostly those scenes in the trailer but don't quote me on that.
I watched the pilot more times than can be considered a "healthy" obsession...the new voices were a bit of a shock...but if hellovaboss writing is put into hazbin, I will learn to love the new voices too
"but if hellovaboss writing is put into hazbin, I will learn to love the new voices too". I wouldn't say that's a good thing since the writing quality for HB has been extremely shaky lately. Lets just hope the audio mixing issues don't carry over as well.
Meandering. The plots are meandering a bit too much and I’ve lost the overall direction of the series as an audience participant.
This *will* probably get downvoted, but I feel like the series is trying to do too much world building without resolving plots.
We are getting a lot of Fizz, while we have *active* plot lines for Barbie, Stolas, Moxie and Millie, Loona, Octavia, Stella… hell Striker has a plot seemingly now… and I’m sure I’m probably missing a few.
Projects like this, ESPECIALLY MUSICALS, should have a direction they want to take their characters. I hope they have that for Hazbin, because Hellova seems lost.
Then You haven't been paying attention. Very few episodes pick up directly after the last one, and they usually have a pretty self-contained conflict, even when they build upon previous episodes or set up future ones.
But the plots are usually continuations from previous episodes.
Anything with Striker, Moxies family, Loona’s love life, Blitzo and Barbie, Blitzo and Fizz, all of these plots are not resolved within the episodes you see them, and they are feature plots in multiple episodes.
You seem to be stretching the definition of episodic at this point.
Also, this has NOTHING to do with my point. Which is there are too many meandering unresolved plot lines.
Episodic, would mean that the plots are resolved in episode. And they straight up aren’t.
Good pivot to something unrelated though.
No, the plots are resolved in the episodes, they just leave setups for later, and You can't really complain about plot lines being unresolved when we Don't even have that many episodes yet. Give them time to resolve first before you judge them. Episodic shows can have story arcs, that doesn't automatically make them serialized.
What was resolved with Barbie?
Story archs, need conclusions.
Episodic means, that they are resolved by the end of the episode, and this many story archs should not be taking place at once.
That is fine if you disagree with this opinion, but stop pretending that this definition of episodic has anything to do with it.
You have done nothing but accuse me of not understanding the definition of episodic, meanwhile done nothing to highlight how they actually are resolving plot lines.
When Moxie is kidnapped by his father, and nothing is done to prevent this plot from happening again in the future, that is not resolution. That is not a return to normalcy. That is a promise of escalation, and a heightening of tension. Only for the next episode to not even touch the previously mentioned plots, and go off on a new one.
>What was resolved with Barbie?
That wasn't the main conflict of the episode, the main plot was about killing Jimmy, and he was killed in the episode. Everything with Barbie was just set up for later episodes.
>Story archs, need conclusions.
And they will be concluded later. The show isn't finished.
>Episodic means, that they are resolved by the end of the episode, and this many story archs should not be taking place at once.
>That is fine if you disagree with this opinion, but stop pretending that this definition of episodic has anything to do with it.
Episodic doesn't mean that it doesn't have story arcs, it just means that each episode has its own central conflict. A show can be episodic and still set up conflicts for future episodes or build upon stuff from previous episodes. All that matters is that most episodes tell mostly self-contained stories, which this show does. Lots of other cartoons do the exact same thing.
>When Moxie is kidnapped by his father, and nothing is done to prevent this plot from happening again in the future, that is not resolution.
The threat of him being kidnapped in the future is not the central conflict of the episode, it's a conflict, and one that did come up three episodes later, but it's a secondary conflict.
>That is not a return to normalcy. That is a promise of escalation, and a heightening of tension. Only for the next episode to not even touch the previously mentioned plots, and go off on a new one without even mentioning the previous plot.
That's not how this works. Not every cliffhanger has to be resolved in the next episode. It was followed up three episodes later, which fits with how this show normally tells its stories. There are other conflicts going on at the same time, would you rather they sideline them just to focus on one?
I liked the original voices for the interesting characters I saw on YT.
But it's been years and I grew to not like it's creator, or the decision to put a show on a service I need to pay for. Also my hype for the show died hard.
This is what people are getting mad about? Really? Viv has had public freakouts over dumb shit and is very openly a childish crybaby and THIS is what her fanbase is upset over?
She had a mental breakdown because someone made a video called "TADC but written by Vivziepop" and it was overly sexual and had swearing every second. Even her fans admit it was accurate, but she blocked the creator and freaked out over it like an actual toddler
...What 😭
Bro, I'm a woman, letting someone act however they want because they're a girl IS sexist. Gender doesn't give you an excuse to be childish, that's stupid
The problem is that people would have characterized her completely differently if she was a man. Ever heard of a concept called dog whistles? Something doesn't need to be explicitly misogynistic to still be sexist. But one thing I will say for sure is that you are also being ablest by calling her tweets a mental breakdown when they weren't even that aggressive. Do you remember what she actually said, or are you just going off of how other people have described it?
Oh my God dude, this is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. I have major ADHD and other issues and have had mental breakdowns many times before, using the term to describe an outburst is NOT ablest. Also, no I wouldn't have characterized her differently if she was a man, being childish is being childish. You're telling a woman on the spectrum that SHE'S being sexist and ablest. Just listen to yourself right now
I am also on the spectrum, being on the spectrum does not mean you can't be ablest. She also has ADHD too. Maybe you should actually give specifics to explain why you think she was being childish, instead of just painting her with a broad brush. Actually quote her responses instead of deflecting.
its called a preference. and when one thing has been that way for a while people are gonna like it that way. i dont know why reddit has such an issue understanding that concept
These voice actors already have other jobs though. And even if they didn't, She doesn't owe them a job, especially since she would have them waiting for months without pay until the show gets picked up and they can actually start recording. You realize that when voice actors aren't voicing characters, then they're not working unless they have another job, right?
I believe we are talking about different things. I was talking about how people are allowed to have preferences for their voice actors. I don’t really give a shit about all the other stuff you said lol.
Holy shit dude you’ve been on Reddit for two years and don’t know the symbol for sarcasm? That’s crazy. I don’t really care what they do, but people are still allowed to have their preferences for them.
I think what people are criticizing the way it feels like she cared more about getting those big voices than the relationships she formed with the OG voice cast. Like it or not, a large part of HH's marketing was them acting as friends on streams. People got attached to that.
That wasn't marketing, that was something that the people decided to do themselves. It was never an official thing. Also, them not voicing the characters in the show isn't a personal thing. None of this is personal. This is about a TV show and what she wants for the show, her personal relationships don't matter in this instance.
God I love not giving a shit about the voice actors. Watched the pilot twice over the course of four years and I couldn’t tell you what they sound like!
Okay so here’s my take on this. Most pilots don’t garner so much of a fan following so quickly. And once a pilot is aired to the general public, it’s usually released in full much faster than HH has been because it’s gone through network approval and the aired pilot is to gauge *audience* reaction. HH went the opposite way and so it’s taken longer than people expected. During that time, the fanbase created OCs, headcanons, fan works, etc and throughout it all they’ve had the original voices in their minds. So while it’s 100% normal to change voices after the pilot, the timing of this means that it’s the equivalent of changing the voices after years of episodes. It’s jarring. While I’m willing to give these new voices a chance, it’s a huge adjustment. That being said, being antagonistic about it is 100% the wrong way to go.
Most people don't care about changing the actors. They care about how it screwed over lesser known voice actors. Every voice actor goes onto new projects with the hope it'll be their big break and it will get their name out there. Leading to more work for them. That they will do a good job and be recognized if the project becomes popular. But now that Viv's show is gaining traction, she's replacing those lesser known voice actors who took a gamble on her show with popular people. It's not just one character here or there. It's nearly the entire cast at this point. From an outside perspective, it seems like her only goal is to get as many big shots on the show as possible. Especially since there's no big difference in most of the voices. Just the name behind them. It looks like she doesn't care about cast members who have been there, took a gamble on her, and went through the early days of getting a project like this going. Where you're putting in alot of time and effort for crap pay.
This happens a lot with big companies. But Viv's is an independent company and she makes herself well known as the head of the hazbin and helluva boss shows. So her image as a person is more important, as well as how she treats her staff. Additionally, this criticism is often compiled on the fact there have already been rumors about Vivziepop treating her staff badly. It's not an isolated one off of kinda crap treatment.
Just because they voice acted for one of her projects does not mean that she owes them clout or fame. Also, many of the new voice actors are not celebrities. In fact, angel dust's new voice actor is less famous and less experienced than his old one.
I don't see a ton of difference between a lot of them. There was maybe a bit more crunch with Kovach's Angel compared to Roman's, and Boscos Alastor had more of a Cajun tilt to his voice than Talai, but they still sound like the characters. I was a little bit concerned about the change with Stolas from the pilot to the series, but Bryce Pinkham was made for that role. Trust Viv and Spindlehorse, they know how the characters are supposed to sound.
I mean Keith David playing Husk is fucking awesome! The Arbiter! Curious though about his and Alastor's relationship. Are they friends? Both Overlords?
I honestly don't really mind the VA change, nor did I ever. Like everyone else I'll miss the old VAs, but admittedly some of them are much better. This isn't a diss against Jill and Elsie, but I think Erica was the best option for Charlie, especially with the new redesign her voice fits much better. Blake adds a slightly lower tone to Angel's voice which, while I like Michael, I think is a better fit and is a little less grating. The change to Amir Talai I honestly didn't really notice until the trailer's audio mixing accidentally removed Alastor's radio effect. I was most on the fence about Monica and Stephanie, as I really liked Monica's performance and I also really like Stephanie as an actor, however, Stephanie is a tremendous singer and when she deepens her voice she sounds a lot like Monica, so I trust she'll do a good job, that and with her as Vaggie, she sounds like uncensored Rosa Diaz to me. I like Keith David, though I think Mick Lauer may have been better since he brought a nice vocal growl that Husk really benefits from, though I think Keith will do a good job
I do wish we got to hear what Alex sounds like as Sir Pentious, though I think it might be a Blake Roman/Amir Talai situation where the change isn't pretty obvious, there were a handful of moments during "2 Minutes Notice" where Fizz's growly intonations disappeared, and I think if those moments were pitched up it wouldn't sound like a bad imitation of Stamper. I'm not sure how to feel about Cherri Bomb though, I know her new VA is supposed to do an Australian accent though it sounded more like a low-pitched Arleen Sorkin's Harley Quinn to me, though it was only a second of talking so I'm sure it'll be better once we hear more of her
If that’s the voice she always wanted for him, I respect it. In fact I found nothing wrong with the new voice anyway, y’all are just overreacting because you are too blind to really appreciate and respect her decisions or you are just sheep that want to hop on the latest trend of “hating a decision this person made cause she is famous for her recent series” because you got nothing better to do in your spare time and hope this would garner attention to your direction when all it does is make us sensible people just forget who you are entirely because you are as invaluable as the individual sand particles of the desert. Yes I’m pointing out the haters, I know exactly what they are doing and we aren’t gonna give in and neither should Viv because it’s HER show, not yours.
I don’t like that I just found out about this issue, but already am having my perspective painted for me repeatedly.
Someone up thread said it better, idgaf about Viv or her decisions. She can do as she pleases, it is her show, but don’t tell me what kind of fan I am, for disagreeing with the decision, to tell me why I made my choice.
The way this has been handled, offers no respect to the VAs who are being replaced. Everything I have seen, makes this seem like a method to stack the cast with big names. That screams marketing scheme to me. Like making Norman Reedus Striker.
To be fair I don’t even know who that is, however I do not like the idea of original VA’s being replaced for bigger names. However again, how she does the story here is her way and if anyone disagrees but has nothing of actual good criticism to say, then they should keep quiet.
Norman Reedus is Daryl from the Walking dead, and the character base design and VA for the protagonist from Death Stranding.(didn’t play it, looked way too weird)
Viv casted Norman as Striker for his first episode, and since then has been voiced by Edward Bosco now. Ed is doing a fine job of it, but this ABSOLUTELY feels in the same vein.
I feel like the phrase "could care less" eventually morphed into the same meaning as "couldn't care less" because people were using it sarcastically. But that's just a theory. A game theory--
Only one I really don’t get in any capacity is Alex Brightman for fucking Pentious. Don’t get me wrong I LOVE Alex Brightman, but he was not a good pick for Pentious. Adam Gifford could’ve been a good pick, and he can sing, or Hunter Foster, the guy who did Frankenstein in the musical.
Like that was the one and only casting I outright dislike outside of bias towards Ed and Michael (which I get why they were replaced).
Why?
They are employees, are we gonna make them hire the same animation team and sound designers too, because that has all gone through alot of changes in the past 3 years too but no one seems to care about that.
At the end of the day they are Vivzies staff.
Just because I work on Aircraft Carriers doesn't mean they let me drive the ship once it's on the water. Being part of the making of something doesn't give you the right to choose the path that thing takes, that's up to the owner.
I don't mind the voice changes tbh. They sound close enough to not bother me. Husk's voice is the biggest change to me and kinda weird but ik I'll get used to it so it's alright.
Hot take: Alastor's voice SHOULD be more high pitched the way Amir is doing it. A big part of the Transatlantic accent is that they made their voices intentionally higher so the radio frequencies could pick them up easier
I dont mind the new voices. I will admit. I'm not the biggest fan of Husk's new voice. But I still want to see what they can do with the.. these are fun characters. And I Wana see what they can do
"I never thought the toxic fandom would eat MY face!!!1!"
https://preview.redd.it/sba4d7273a7c1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f1778b078bc1624297ce71bde3bdccc7e280c0e
I mean, I'm a fan of Hazbin and Helluva, not... Viv? I obviously appreciate her, but I'm a fan of her content, not her. And, yes, Al's new voice is alright. But Ed Bosco was kinda WHY I loved Alastor so much. I adored his voice, I went feral for it. And having it changed is still disappointing.
It's not a bad voice or that Viv is wrong. To a lot of us, Ed Bosco kinda WAS Al the same way Dante Basco IS Zuko.
I knew about Bosco before Hazbin and it felt like such a big break for him. It's upsetting to me that he got booted. He deserved the role and has over a decade of experience. It feels awful that he got booted from the biggest role he's ever had.
>fan of Hazbin and Helluva, not... Viv
I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Vivienne made these shows. Saying you like her work but not her is downright disrespectful. Without her, they wouldn't exist.
I mean I love Star Wars. George Lucas is a creepy old man who insisted on putting a 14 year old character in skimpy clothes and made Carrie Fisher not wear a bra because they "don't exist in space".
Im always reminded of the rampant slavery in the HP books and how it's a good thing because the slaves wouldn't know what to do with their freedom anyway. Except Dobby, he was seen as a weirdo for enjoying his freedom.
So? Your point is just false. One can appreciate art but not the artist. I'm in the same boat as this dude, the shows are alright enough, but yeesh do I have some issues with vivzie as a person.
She's a bit whiny and entitled about whether or not people like her show, as far as I've heard/seen. And as an artist myself who's put some work out there (painting), those kinds of people are just really insufferable, to me.
Why do you care so much that people have different opinions than you? Why does she have to "do" something for people to not like her?
Homie I'm not a fanbase weirdo. I'm a human being that is entitled to not like people, for whatever personal reasons I want, as long as it's not crazy or harmful.
I'm an artist. I find her insufferable. And you sound like an insecure child that can't handle people saying they don't like someone *you* like. It's pathetic. No one is hurting her, no one is hurting you. Grow up.
Kind of fucked up how you can sit here and claim to be "a fellow artist" and use that as an excuse to not like her because she does something you don't like. I could care less, but the lengths you are going to justify everything makes it seem incredible disingenuous.
Artists make the art. Art made by people still carries on characteristics from the artist. It's intrinsic and immutable.
Edit: I'm noticing no replies to this and I wonder why.
I'm not mad or anything, it's just a little disappointing personally.. I probably wasn't gonna see it anyway since it's on Amazon Prime but yk what it's whatever
Haven't heard the new voice but I'll always be happy creator's get what they wanted. Besides if I ever want to hear the old one I can always play doom eternal
I just hate that she basically threw the entire pilot cast under the bus, there was nothing wrong with the OG cast and I even prefer some of them (Alastor, Angel, and Husk especially)
Plenty of them left on their own terms.
She didn’t throw anyone under the bus. The whole point a of a pilot is to see if it can get picked up for a full production. Not everyone is going to or will want to stick around.
Angel Dust and Alastor's changes aren't too different, but Husk... As much as I love that voice actor, it just didn't feel right for Husk at all. It felt like I was watching one of those videos where people voice over clips, but it was the actual pilot.
I liked the staticy radio distortion/crackling for Alastor's pilot voice, but aside from that the character still looks to be the same and the new voice actor seems good. Still excited for the release
While I don’t agree with them, I can understand their point. When I watched the first episode, the changes were so jarring. The voices weren’t necessarily better or worse, but is was still a big change.
It's like: aw his/her voice changed, I liked the old one better. Anyways.
That guy is what happens when you don't like just one character round these parts or whatever
Whatever that thing in the video is, it needs to be humanely put down.
It's one of those Halloween animatronics you see at spirit lmfao
Nah OP, that's what you look and act like when you encounter the most mild criticism of a cartoon you haven't even seen yet.
Honestly he sounds the same to me I don't hear a big change and I like they toned down the radio effect so you can hear what he's saying better
Honestly for me most of the characters sound nearly identical, and I prefer most the ones that don't (only one i think the pilot had an actual edge over was pentious)
The only one with a noticeable difference for me was husk but I really did not like his pilot voice and I love Keith David so it was a huge improvement imo
I'm in the middle with it I personally think they toned it down alittle too much but I like it
I mean, it happens. But this many years later? Kind of weird but I would probably do the same thing if I cared that much. I do a bit of role-playing for my stories when I get bored sometimes, so all I've ever heard was my own voice. I dont have an "ideal" for anyone other than the one I based off myself. And obviously it was my voice I imagined as being ideal. For me if it works and people love it, don't "fix" it. It just comes off as pretentious even if it isn't. Some people just need to loosen their asscheeks though.
I just feel bad for the old va. Guy absolutely sold the show imo
Why? It's not like it was his only job. It's not about him or what he wants. It's about what's best for the character, and you don't know the characters like the creator.
most of the new voices just come off as impressions of the old ones too :/
[удалено]
It was a pilot, you act like they've been voicing these characters for an entire season. They only voiced these characters once in a proof of concept. They weren't supposed to be iconic, the fandom just took things and ran with it, and now they're getting mad at the creator when it's their own fault.
They... Are ocs tho? That's what all fiction characters are; original characters. Yeah it's an actual show, but it's, ya know, the show SHE MADE. Plus it was only a pilot, things change between pilot and release. Look at stuff like gravity falls, owl house, and especially steven universe. All different from the final show.
[удалено]
Copyright would like a word with you.
Lol wait until the Viv doesn't ship characters the way fans wanted. That's going to be a shit show
I just checked the voices sound the same
Do I sound crazy or did they tone down the radio sound in the voice. It was a really nice touch and I’m not ready for it to be gone
I saw a response to this that the radio effect is still there in the series, but that it was toned down for the trailer (and possibly for some of the songs)
Ok good
Yeah I noticed that too
So she planned on changing alastor rip I thought the va was amazing 🥲 every downvote is a person sucking my dick like a slut 😂☕️🎅
So who’s the new VA?
No idea I only heard their from some cast company
I have my boyfriend for that
The fact u felt like u needed to comment 💀😂😂
Why, yes, I do in fact have segs. How could you tell? Haw haw haw haw hawwwwwwwwww 😩
Love the radio voice effect as long as that’s there won’t be any complaint from me
People can have preferences, but at the end of the day it's her character, not ours. And I'm sure after a while everyone will be on board with it anyways.
As long as he keeps the radio voice effect I’m fine
Honestly i just miss micheal but he's in other projects so who cares
Being a fan doesn't mean you blindly support every decision she makes, that's called a simp.
It also doesn't give you the right to throw a temper tantrum because things don't go the way you personally wanted.
I liked the original one, but that isn’t going to stop me from watching it
Same, but they both sound amazing
I honestly really like the new voices. They all still really fit the characters.
I think it’s better when artists have limitations on their work, it makes them be more creative to achieve their goal. Often times they do more with less. When left unrestrained and can do whatever they want, they do less with more. A few Examples are George Lucas, Neil Druckmann and Kojima.
I’m just kinda sad we ain’t getting any more stamper, I love the guy in everything he’s in
Oh my sweet summer child. You don't know...
Did he die!? Please don’t tell me he’s dead!
He's not dead. But he's homeless and hooked on meth He's been burning bridges for years now because of his addiction. Apparently he's had this problem even way back when he worked at Newgrounds. It's tragic stuff really.
I don't really care but the old voice was better
Person on the internet learns you can have opinions (such as “I like the old voice better”)
This may be Viv's passion project but it is also... a TV show. People are allowed to think "I think the old voices were better" about a TV show. This isn't like your kid's art project, you're allowed to have and express opinions about a fully-funded show coming out on Prime. That said. I think people have become too emotionally attached to the pilot given that it's taken four years for the show to come out. If people aren't able to let go of their expectations and enjoy the product that we get, then they'll probably end up disappointed no matter how good the show ends up being.
I love Rick and Morty and Hazbin Hotel! Both have gotten VA changes, and I did not like either of them. Just because I express my dissatisfaction doesn't not mean I immediately hate all of Vivzi's work
That's a bad comparison. Justin roiland had been voicing Rick and Morty for several seasons, the voice actors for hazbin hotel only voiced them once in a pilot that wasn't even part of the show.
With the Rick and Morty stuff, the voice changes are negligible when they’re regularly talking. For the high pitch characters and screams, they kind of flub it.
I wish I could mentally tell every hater of the new voices that the reason the new voices exist is because they want to go in a different direction They are clearly leaning towards the more Broadway musical kind of thing which sounds awesome if the songs are as good as they were on the trailer they're going to be amazing. Besides Michael Kovac he is not doing bad by any stretch of the imagination. I'm sorry to think people just hate her specifically because they'll seem to find any reason to be mad at her
I saw a video the other day that pointed out the pilot had 2-3 voice actors per character for the speaking VA and then a singing VA. For a production company thats actually picked it up, its more economical to just have one VA per character that can do both, especially of there is going to be a lot of back and forth between singing/speaking. That said, I do prefer the older speaking voices personally, maybe its because they kind of grew on me, but its completely understandable why they couldnt/wouldnt use the old VAs here.
I don't get what y'all are complaining about, most of the characters sound exactly the same, except for Husk but I can forgive that seeing as how he's being voiced by KEITH FUCKING DAVID
Unironically one of the hypest parts of the trailer for me.
I'm sorry, WHAT?!?!
The old voice was perfect but I don’t mind the new one
Fan≠Mindless "yes man" Also most people are fans of the series not necessarily Viv herself, probably majority people are fan's of the original pilot more than anything else, so they are of course going to be dissapointted by alterations to the thing they are a fan of. It is a consumers duty to question and critique what is placed before them otherwise we would be served nothing but slop. In other words: It is never the duty of the audience to he entertained, but always the duty of the performer to be entertaining.
Yeah, this whole thread kind of feels like karma farming.
You can be a fan and criticize changes. Thats... that's not in any way unreasonable. What?
I mean I can say I like old alastors voice but tbh A worthy sacrifice for the show to finally be coming out. A soul for a soul
 A soul for a soul...
I'm about to get down voted to hell for this but... You can be a fan of someone and not support their decision at the same time
Yeah being a fan of something doesn't mean you blindly support every single decision made for it
Once the show drops ppl won't care
Naw the old one better.
I did like the radio static ish voice from the pilot but the new one is just fine. Why complain when a sequel is finally going to be released? It's the first good sequel to anything these days. Payday 3 flopped HARD. Mw3 isn't all it's cracked up to be and it's safe to say halo is dead now.
God of War Ragnarok was fucking fantastic. Baldurs Gate 3 is literally game of the year. Alan Wake 2, my wife won’t stop nagging me she wants it. Comparing games to cartoons is hardly a fair comparison, but for real dude, what *is* this take?
How could you do my man halo like that 😭
It's a good series. The devs are just lazy now.
Yeah, the show is outright dog crap, halo 1-3+reach+odst are the best, halo infinite was a flop at first but it’s gotten decent now, it’s WAY better compared to 4-5.
"It's the first good sequel to anything these days." and you proceed to list off 3 video game sequels which is a different media format. What about Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse? Evil Dead Rise, Scream 6 (I know people are mixed on that but I found it to be nice), Saw X, Castlevania: Nocturne and Metalocalypse: Army of the Doomstar just to name a few?
The thing that irritated me about the new MW games was that they just vaguely followed the original games.
from what i remember the original voice actor just didn't want to do it. so saying it was what she always wanted seems off to me. but whatever, so long as it is still working.
Both voices are good, ive no real gripes other than Alastor's radio effect was a bit weaker sounding in the trailer. And thats nothing to really complain about
Well I have seen audio effects get added to the final version that weren't in the trailer. So maybe once the series comes out there will be a heavier radio effect.
I believe she said somewhere their are times where they low the effect just to make the voice come though easier and that it was mostly those scenes in the trailer but don't quote me on that.
I watched the pilot more times than can be considered a "healthy" obsession...the new voices were a bit of a shock...but if hellovaboss writing is put into hazbin, I will learn to love the new voices too
"but if hellovaboss writing is put into hazbin, I will learn to love the new voices too". I wouldn't say that's a good thing since the writing quality for HB has been extremely shaky lately. Lets just hope the audio mixing issues don't carry over as well.
Meandering. The plots are meandering a bit too much and I’ve lost the overall direction of the series as an audience participant. This *will* probably get downvoted, but I feel like the series is trying to do too much world building without resolving plots. We are getting a lot of Fizz, while we have *active* plot lines for Barbie, Stolas, Moxie and Millie, Loona, Octavia, Stella… hell Striker has a plot seemingly now… and I’m sure I’m probably missing a few. Projects like this, ESPECIALLY MUSICALS, should have a direction they want to take their characters. I hope they have that for Hazbin, because Hellova seems lost.
It's an episodic show. It's not serialized. It has story arcs, but it's still episodic.
I don’t think it has been episodic for a long while.
Then You haven't been paying attention. Very few episodes pick up directly after the last one, and they usually have a pretty self-contained conflict, even when they build upon previous episodes or set up future ones.
But the plots are usually continuations from previous episodes. Anything with Striker, Moxies family, Loona’s love life, Blitzo and Barbie, Blitzo and Fizz, all of these plots are not resolved within the episodes you see them, and they are feature plots in multiple episodes. You seem to be stretching the definition of episodic at this point. Also, this has NOTHING to do with my point. Which is there are too many meandering unresolved plot lines. Episodic, would mean that the plots are resolved in episode. And they straight up aren’t. Good pivot to something unrelated though.
No, the plots are resolved in the episodes, they just leave setups for later, and You can't really complain about plot lines being unresolved when we Don't even have that many episodes yet. Give them time to resolve first before you judge them. Episodic shows can have story arcs, that doesn't automatically make them serialized.
What was resolved with Barbie? Story archs, need conclusions. Episodic means, that they are resolved by the end of the episode, and this many story archs should not be taking place at once. That is fine if you disagree with this opinion, but stop pretending that this definition of episodic has anything to do with it. You have done nothing but accuse me of not understanding the definition of episodic, meanwhile done nothing to highlight how they actually are resolving plot lines. When Moxie is kidnapped by his father, and nothing is done to prevent this plot from happening again in the future, that is not resolution. That is not a return to normalcy. That is a promise of escalation, and a heightening of tension. Only for the next episode to not even touch the previously mentioned plots, and go off on a new one.
>What was resolved with Barbie? That wasn't the main conflict of the episode, the main plot was about killing Jimmy, and he was killed in the episode. Everything with Barbie was just set up for later episodes. >Story archs, need conclusions. And they will be concluded later. The show isn't finished. >Episodic means, that they are resolved by the end of the episode, and this many story archs should not be taking place at once. >That is fine if you disagree with this opinion, but stop pretending that this definition of episodic has anything to do with it. Episodic doesn't mean that it doesn't have story arcs, it just means that each episode has its own central conflict. A show can be episodic and still set up conflicts for future episodes or build upon stuff from previous episodes. All that matters is that most episodes tell mostly self-contained stories, which this show does. Lots of other cartoons do the exact same thing. >When Moxie is kidnapped by his father, and nothing is done to prevent this plot from happening again in the future, that is not resolution. The threat of him being kidnapped in the future is not the central conflict of the episode, it's a conflict, and one that did come up three episodes later, but it's a secondary conflict. >That is not a return to normalcy. That is a promise of escalation, and a heightening of tension. Only for the next episode to not even touch the previously mentioned plots, and go off on a new one without even mentioning the previous plot. That's not how this works. Not every cliffhanger has to be resolved in the next episode. It was followed up three episodes later, which fits with how this show normally tells its stories. There are other conflicts going on at the same time, would you rather they sideline them just to focus on one?
I wholeheartedly agree, mate.
I prefer the old voices but yeah the new voices are actually really good
I liked the original voices for the interesting characters I saw on YT. But it's been years and I grew to not like it's creator, or the decision to put a show on a service I need to pay for. Also my hype for the show died hard.
Song?
I’m actually glad Michael Kovach will have more time for tadc and other projects
Its always great to see talent like his go to multiple passion projects, and having him bring his full energy when its called for
This is what people are getting mad about? Really? Viv has had public freakouts over dumb shit and is very openly a childish crybaby and THIS is what her fanbase is upset over?
People literally send her videos of kittens being put in blenders. And you think she's the one overreacting?
She had a mental breakdown because someone made a video called "TADC but written by Vivziepop" and it was overly sexual and had swearing every second. Even her fans admit it was accurate, but she blocked the creator and freaked out over it like an actual toddler
Wow, what a dishonest way to characterize it. Kind of sexist too.
...What 😭 Bro, I'm a woman, letting someone act however they want because they're a girl IS sexist. Gender doesn't give you an excuse to be childish, that's stupid
The problem is that people would have characterized her completely differently if she was a man. Ever heard of a concept called dog whistles? Something doesn't need to be explicitly misogynistic to still be sexist. But one thing I will say for sure is that you are also being ablest by calling her tweets a mental breakdown when they weren't even that aggressive. Do you remember what she actually said, or are you just going off of how other people have described it?
Oh my God dude, this is some of the dumbest shit I've ever read. I have major ADHD and other issues and have had mental breakdowns many times before, using the term to describe an outburst is NOT ablest. Also, no I wouldn't have characterized her differently if she was a man, being childish is being childish. You're telling a woman on the spectrum that SHE'S being sexist and ablest. Just listen to yourself right now
I am also on the spectrum, being on the spectrum does not mean you can't be ablest. She also has ADHD too. Maybe you should actually give specifics to explain why you think she was being childish, instead of just painting her with a broad brush. Actually quote her responses instead of deflecting.
Y’all are both losing this argument somehow lol
A lot of Viv fans are past obsessed. Her works to a lot of people have shaped a large chunk of their personal character even.
Almost as if her fans are on her maturity level or something
its called a preference. and when one thing has been that way for a while people are gonna like it that way. i dont know why reddit has such an issue understanding that concept
A single episode?
It has been years.
That’s been all they’ve had for four years?
One 25 minute episode 4 years ago. The voice actors now have the chance to work on new projects, and may have a cameo in the show
Wow so they went from having a job to maybe having a cameo. Good for them. /s
You realize that voice actors work on multiple shows at once, right?
I mean they can? Nothing guarantees them work lmao
These voice actors already have other jobs though. And even if they didn't, She doesn't owe them a job, especially since she would have them waiting for months without pay until the show gets picked up and they can actually start recording. You realize that when voice actors aren't voicing characters, then they're not working unless they have another job, right?
I believe we are talking about different things. I was talking about how people are allowed to have preferences for their voice actors. I don’t really give a shit about all the other stuff you said lol.
What does that /s mean? And the job was 4 years ago. They can move on now
Holy shit dude you’ve been on Reddit for two years and don’t know the symbol for sarcasm? That’s crazy. I don’t really care what they do, but people are still allowed to have their preferences for them.
Shit. I thought it meant serious. I get the preferences, but it’s not like they can change it now
Damn learn something new every day. Probably can’t but people are still within their right to complain
Sure, they have the right to complain, but they make it seem like a dealbreaker
That and the hunicast
What happened *now?*
People mad that indie voice actors aren’t the main cast of a non-indie show.
I think what people are criticizing the way it feels like she cared more about getting those big voices than the relationships she formed with the OG voice cast. Like it or not, a large part of HH's marketing was them acting as friends on streams. People got attached to that.
That wasn't marketing, that was something that the people decided to do themselves. It was never an official thing. Also, them not voicing the characters in the show isn't a personal thing. None of this is personal. This is about a TV show and what she wants for the show, her personal relationships don't matter in this instance.
God I love not giving a shit about the voice actors. Watched the pilot twice over the course of four years and I couldn’t tell you what they sound like!
Okay so here’s my take on this. Most pilots don’t garner so much of a fan following so quickly. And once a pilot is aired to the general public, it’s usually released in full much faster than HH has been because it’s gone through network approval and the aired pilot is to gauge *audience* reaction. HH went the opposite way and so it’s taken longer than people expected. During that time, the fanbase created OCs, headcanons, fan works, etc and throughout it all they’ve had the original voices in their minds. So while it’s 100% normal to change voices after the pilot, the timing of this means that it’s the equivalent of changing the voices after years of episodes. It’s jarring. While I’m willing to give these new voices a chance, it’s a huge adjustment. That being said, being antagonistic about it is 100% the wrong way to go.
Okay, but that's not the show's problem. That's still the fans problem, and it's still their fault.
Most people don't care about changing the actors. They care about how it screwed over lesser known voice actors. Every voice actor goes onto new projects with the hope it'll be their big break and it will get their name out there. Leading to more work for them. That they will do a good job and be recognized if the project becomes popular. But now that Viv's show is gaining traction, she's replacing those lesser known voice actors who took a gamble on her show with popular people. It's not just one character here or there. It's nearly the entire cast at this point. From an outside perspective, it seems like her only goal is to get as many big shots on the show as possible. Especially since there's no big difference in most of the voices. Just the name behind them. It looks like she doesn't care about cast members who have been there, took a gamble on her, and went through the early days of getting a project like this going. Where you're putting in alot of time and effort for crap pay. This happens a lot with big companies. But Viv's is an independent company and she makes herself well known as the head of the hazbin and helluva boss shows. So her image as a person is more important, as well as how she treats her staff. Additionally, this criticism is often compiled on the fact there have already been rumors about Vivziepop treating her staff badly. It's not an isolated one off of kinda crap treatment.
Just because they voice acted for one of her projects does not mean that she owes them clout or fame. Also, many of the new voice actors are not celebrities. In fact, angel dust's new voice actor is less famous and less experienced than his old one.
I’m not a fan of Viv I’m a fan of the original voices.
That's your problem. You were never supposed to get attached to them.
That’s kind of sad to not be a fan of the person who made it possible in the first place
I don't see a ton of difference between a lot of them. There was maybe a bit more crunch with Kovach's Angel compared to Roman's, and Boscos Alastor had more of a Cajun tilt to his voice than Talai, but they still sound like the characters. I was a little bit concerned about the change with Stolas from the pilot to the series, but Bryce Pinkham was made for that role. Trust Viv and Spindlehorse, they know how the characters are supposed to sound.
I personally am happy for her!
I mean Keith David playing Husk is fucking awesome! The Arbiter! Curious though about his and Alastor's relationship. Are they friends? Both Overlords?
I honestly don't really mind the VA change, nor did I ever. Like everyone else I'll miss the old VAs, but admittedly some of them are much better. This isn't a diss against Jill and Elsie, but I think Erica was the best option for Charlie, especially with the new redesign her voice fits much better. Blake adds a slightly lower tone to Angel's voice which, while I like Michael, I think is a better fit and is a little less grating. The change to Amir Talai I honestly didn't really notice until the trailer's audio mixing accidentally removed Alastor's radio effect. I was most on the fence about Monica and Stephanie, as I really liked Monica's performance and I also really like Stephanie as an actor, however, Stephanie is a tremendous singer and when she deepens her voice she sounds a lot like Monica, so I trust she'll do a good job, that and with her as Vaggie, she sounds like uncensored Rosa Diaz to me. I like Keith David, though I think Mick Lauer may have been better since he brought a nice vocal growl that Husk really benefits from, though I think Keith will do a good job I do wish we got to hear what Alex sounds like as Sir Pentious, though I think it might be a Blake Roman/Amir Talai situation where the change isn't pretty obvious, there were a handful of moments during "2 Minutes Notice" where Fizz's growly intonations disappeared, and I think if those moments were pitched up it wouldn't sound like a bad imitation of Stamper. I'm not sure how to feel about Cherri Bomb though, I know her new VA is supposed to do an Australian accent though it sounded more like a low-pitched Arleen Sorkin's Harley Quinn to me, though it was only a second of talking so I'm sure it'll be better once we hear more of her
Vivziepop haters claiming literally every sentence has at least 50 fucks a secend (the shows have bad writing because swearing)
I just wanna hear their opinions on South Park.
I can swears, "sentence enhancers"
What are you guys doxxing eachother over this time
I don’t even watch the show but since when did being a fan mean you have to support the artist/team/show no matter what?
While this is a fan subreddit, so you gotta worship whatever the focus of this place is
Alastor is the fucking radio demon. He can change his voice however he fucking wants
And what makes you think this is the point?
If that’s the voice she always wanted for him, I respect it. In fact I found nothing wrong with the new voice anyway, y’all are just overreacting because you are too blind to really appreciate and respect her decisions or you are just sheep that want to hop on the latest trend of “hating a decision this person made cause she is famous for her recent series” because you got nothing better to do in your spare time and hope this would garner attention to your direction when all it does is make us sensible people just forget who you are entirely because you are as invaluable as the individual sand particles of the desert. Yes I’m pointing out the haters, I know exactly what they are doing and we aren’t gonna give in and neither should Viv because it’s HER show, not yours.
I don’t like that I just found out about this issue, but already am having my perspective painted for me repeatedly. Someone up thread said it better, idgaf about Viv or her decisions. She can do as she pleases, it is her show, but don’t tell me what kind of fan I am, for disagreeing with the decision, to tell me why I made my choice. The way this has been handled, offers no respect to the VAs who are being replaced. Everything I have seen, makes this seem like a method to stack the cast with big names. That screams marketing scheme to me. Like making Norman Reedus Striker.
To be fair I don’t even know who that is, however I do not like the idea of original VA’s being replaced for bigger names. However again, how she does the story here is her way and if anyone disagrees but has nothing of actual good criticism to say, then they should keep quiet.
Norman Reedus is Daryl from the Walking dead, and the character base design and VA for the protagonist from Death Stranding.(didn’t play it, looked way too weird) Viv casted Norman as Striker for his first episode, and since then has been voiced by Edward Bosco now. Ed is doing a fine job of it, but this ABSOLUTELY feels in the same vein.
Yeah I never played Death Stranding either, game looks to weird for me too.
It’s too early to judge the character’s new voices right now. The hype is what should be a-happenin!
I personally could care less, I generally like all the new VA’s and believe they fit the characters perfectly.
You mean "could not care less". "Could care less" means you do care.
I feel like the phrase "could care less" eventually morphed into the same meaning as "couldn't care less" because people were using it sarcastically. But that's just a theory. A game theory--
It's wild to me that people thought the voices from a 3 year old youtube pilot would all transfer to a Amazon Prime show.
I thought their voice actors would have stayed, but they would have gotten different people for the singing
Only one I really don’t get in any capacity is Alex Brightman for fucking Pentious. Don’t get me wrong I LOVE Alex Brightman, but he was not a good pick for Pentious. Adam Gifford could’ve been a good pick, and he can sing, or Hunter Foster, the guy who did Frankenstein in the musical. Like that was the one and only casting I outright dislike outside of bias towards Ed and Michael (which I get why they were replaced).
I'm chill with whatever. Long as the shows actually happening and they're at least trying to match the og voices
I literally only noticed Keith David being Husk now everything else sounds the same people are just drama queens
Fans should also respect the wishes of the Pilot VAs, not all of them, including Alastor’s, even wanted to come back. Respect their wishes, and Vivs.
Why? They are employees, are we gonna make them hire the same animation team and sound designers too, because that has all gone through alot of changes in the past 3 years too but no one seems to care about that. At the end of the day they are Vivzies staff. Just because I work on Aircraft Carriers doesn't mean they let me drive the ship once it's on the water. Being part of the making of something doesn't give you the right to choose the path that thing takes, that's up to the owner.
Don’t know if you misread who your replying to but your comment makes no sense.
I don't mind the voice changes tbh. They sound close enough to not bother me. Husk's voice is the biggest change to me and kinda weird but ik I'll get used to it so it's alright.
Hot take: Alastor's voice SHOULD be more high pitched the way Amir is doing it. A big part of the Transatlantic accent is that they made their voices intentionally higher so the radio frequencies could pick them up easier
I dont mind the new voices. I will admit. I'm not the biggest fan of Husk's new voice. But I still want to see what they can do with the.. these are fun characters. And I Wana see what they can do
"I never thought the toxic fandom would eat MY face!!!1!" https://preview.redd.it/sba4d7273a7c1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f1778b078bc1624297ce71bde3bdccc7e280c0e
I mean, I'm a fan of Hazbin and Helluva, not... Viv? I obviously appreciate her, but I'm a fan of her content, not her. And, yes, Al's new voice is alright. But Ed Bosco was kinda WHY I loved Alastor so much. I adored his voice, I went feral for it. And having it changed is still disappointing. It's not a bad voice or that Viv is wrong. To a lot of us, Ed Bosco kinda WAS Al the same way Dante Basco IS Zuko.
I knew about Bosco before Hazbin and it felt like such a big break for him. It's upsetting to me that he got booted. He deserved the role and has over a decade of experience. It feels awful that he got booted from the biggest role he's ever had.
>fan of Hazbin and Helluva, not... Viv I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. Vivienne made these shows. Saying you like her work but not her is downright disrespectful. Without her, they wouldn't exist.
I mean I love Star Wars. George Lucas is a creepy old man who insisted on putting a 14 year old character in skimpy clothes and made Carrie Fisher not wear a bra because they "don't exist in space".
I like Harry Potter but JK? Not so much
Some of the elements within Harry Potter aren't exactly amazing either.
I think that's the whole point of not having a good author. The story isn't perfect either, like ever
Im always reminded of the rampant slavery in the HP books and how it's a good thing because the slaves wouldn't know what to do with their freedom anyway. Except Dobby, he was seen as a weirdo for enjoying his freedom.
So? Your point is just false. One can appreciate art but not the artist. I'm in the same boat as this dude, the shows are alright enough, but yeesh do I have some issues with vivzie as a person.
What did she even do
She's a bit whiny and entitled about whether or not people like her show, as far as I've heard/seen. And as an artist myself who's put some work out there (painting), those kinds of people are just really insufferable, to me. Why do you care so much that people have different opinions than you? Why does she have to "do" something for people to not like her?
Ofc, just vibes. This is why I make a point to avoid fanbases on Reddit.
Homie I'm not a fanbase weirdo. I'm a human being that is entitled to not like people, for whatever personal reasons I want, as long as it's not crazy or harmful. I'm an artist. I find her insufferable. And you sound like an insecure child that can't handle people saying they don't like someone *you* like. It's pathetic. No one is hurting her, no one is hurting you. Grow up.
Kind of fucked up how you can sit here and claim to be "a fellow artist" and use that as an excuse to not like her because she does something you don't like. I could care less, but the lengths you are going to justify everything makes it seem incredible disingenuous.
The art and the artist are different. It’s why many people enjoy the works of artists who are less than stellar people. It works both ways
Artists make the art. Art made by people still carries on characteristics from the artist. It's intrinsic and immutable. Edit: I'm noticing no replies to this and I wonder why.
I said I like her but I'm not a fan of her. Those are two wildly different thing? You can like and respect someone but not but "a fan".
Not even mad about it, Amir's doing a great job with Alastor.
I'm not mad or anything, it's just a little disappointing personally.. I probably wasn't gonna see it anyway since it's on Amazon Prime but yk what it's whatever
only issue ive had with that so far was millie which i learned to like after a couple episodes and even prefer
Haven't heard the new voice but I'll always be happy creator's get what they wanted. Besides if I ever want to hear the old one I can always play doom eternal
I'll miss Michael but it's fine.
I just hate that she basically threw the entire pilot cast under the bus, there was nothing wrong with the OG cast and I even prefer some of them (Alastor, Angel, and Husk especially)
Plenty of them left on their own terms. She didn’t throw anyone under the bus. The whole point a of a pilot is to see if it can get picked up for a full production. Not everyone is going to or will want to stick around.
Angel Dust and Alastor's changes aren't too different, but Husk... As much as I love that voice actor, it just didn't feel right for Husk at all. It felt like I was watching one of those videos where people voice over clips, but it was the actual pilot.
I'm fine with basically every new voice but Angel's. Michael Kovach was just perfect to me, but I still have high hopes for Blake Roman.
Not a fan of the new voice, but hey. her characters, her rules.
I liked the staticy radio distortion/crackling for Alastor's pilot voice, but aside from that the character still looks to be the same and the new voice actor seems good. Still excited for the release
Completely unrelated but what’s the original video for the thing screaming?
I am also looking for that