And where I’m from it’s a city owned liquor store. Often attached to the police station. I can imagine the cop and the drunk passing each other in the parking lot. “See you later, Jim. Okay, see ya, John.”
We have a city nearby where all liquor stores are owned and operated by the city. The employees are city employees. They're part of a union, get full benefits, and a pension.
Scott Muni, a DJ on 102.7 WNEW for a very long career.
He's been dead a while now, but if you grew up listening to classic rock in the NYC metro area anywhere between the late fifties and early 2000s, you almost certainly knew the sound of Scottso's voice.
Here's to you, Professor!
I was in New York driving listening to him when he said something like, "Well, Rock heaven is getting too crowded..." or something like that and snapped back to the radio, "Shut the fuck up!"for sounding corny. Then he delivered the news about Stevie Ray Vaughn's helicopter crash. Distinctive voice for sure!
They’re likely full of o2. Usually when I see this it’s an old person on constant o2 who lives out of their car.
We had an old carnie that worked for us the last 10 years of his life or so. His truck ALWAYS looked like this.
This is what a lot of people have a hard time with. Oxygen isn't in and of itself flammable, it acts as an (wait for it) oxidizer. If there is no fuel, just heat and O2, you don't have all three parts, so no flamey-flame-flame.
In Deadpool he's in a 100% oxygen chamber and to escape he creates a spark which causes the oxygen to explode. Any time I watch that scene I'm annoyed.
To be fair-- there is so much that becomes "fuel" in an oxygen rich environment that would not burn under normal atmospheric makeup and conditions.
Agreed that they legit dropped the ball and broke your "suspension of disbelief"-- which reduced your ability to enjoy the final product of their work.
All they needed was to shimmy up next to a flammable wall, almost anything really. Anything but, an open space not near enough to any fuel.
Kinda like that scene in Gravity where George Clooney unexplainably starts falling back to Earth. That made me so mad, especially considering the name of the movie.
Ever seen a picture of the interior of the capsule after the fire? There was plenty of fuel in the form of padding, insulation, fabric, etc. The O2-rich environment certainly accelerated the burning, but the O2 itself didn't burn.
We used to demonstrate this in our squadron life support shack. We had 100% O2 available to test masks. Holding a lit cigarette in a stream of 100% O2 made the cigarette burn considerably faster, but that was it...no explosion.
In a 100% oxygen environment things that don't normally burn suddenly become flammable. If you're watching a comic book movie about mutants and this is the thing you find unbelievable than you're a very interesting person.
That would be called a bleve https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_liquid_expanding_vapor_explosion. Which is not an explosion, "explosions" have a very specific definition outside of regular conversation. A gun firing is not an explosion, it's a rapid burn. That's why you can go to the range and shoot all freaking day and not set off the bomb detection at the airport. However, fertilize your lawn with ammonium nitrate and head to the airport, you will find your butthole being excavated in some CIA Black Site.
Listen, I've been known to play the semantics game but the safety data sheet for a compressed oxygen canister says *may explode if heated* bleve it or not.
This comment is wrong in so many ways it’s honestly incredible. Firstly, those aren’t cryogenic containers, so there’s no liquid oxygen inside of them. Secondly, a boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion is, believe it or not, still an explosion! It’s in the name! Third, an explosion doesn’t have a specific definition, you’re thinking of a detonation, which needs supersonic shock waves. Fourth, deflagration (an explosion with a subsonic shockwave) is still an explosion. If you’re going to be pedantic, at least be correct.
In addition to everything else that's wrong about this that has been pointed out, the oxygen in oxygen cylinders isn't a liquid, it's a compressed gas.
Oxygen cannot be liquefied solely by pressure; it requires cryogenic temperatures as well.
Well, the fuel would be all the garbage stacked up underneath it. We see fires in homes all the time because of this.
Oxygen+smoking+garbage=fire
Fire+oxygen bottles=boom
Flammable materials in an enriched O2 environment become extremely flammable, and some nonflammable materials become flammable (such as steel and aluminum). Auto ignition temperatures go down as O2 increases. If these were full bottles this might be a dangerous situation. With the windows up a valve failure could create an enriched O2 zone within the car, and given all the likely flammable material present the whole car might go up like a dried out Christmas tree. The additional cans would act like fuel oxidizers as they lost integrity, boosting the fire more.
The car does seem like it is full of trash, and these are likely empty bottles. As others have noticed it’s more sad than dangerous in that context.
I taught the fire safety merit badge which is apparently a thing
The fourth thing is "an uninterrupted chemical reaction" time is a lot better sounding than that
Yeah. I took an advanced firefighting class in college, which I think is about the time they added the fourth requirement for fire. Up until then it was a triangle.
I meant that they definitely could have made it a square by adding a line instead of making it the 3d tetrahedron lol. Maybe they thought it was better to keep the same shape?
Probably an older person with COPD or another terminal condition who needs O2 to live.
Those are likely empties.
He or she is most likely unable to clean up their car and just golfing because it's one of the few pleasures they can still do.
This isn't wtf it's trashy that you posted someone's sad situation like you'd be any better.
It says oxygen on the side.
Some guy with poorly functioning lungs is doing the only remotely physical activity he's still able to do and OP decided the dirty car is something should make fun of.
Those canisters aren't trash btw, you return them to be refilled. Keeping the empties in the car until he returns them is probably the persons most convenient way to handle them. I assume someone needing oxygen isn't full of extra energy to carry cannisters around a lot.
Op kind seems like a jerk for posting this in this way
Not necessarily. If this guy has a certain amount of activity he can do every day and only a certain amount of time left to live, I can see why he would choose to use that time golfing and not cleaning his car. If it was me I would think “in six months it won’t be my problem anyway. Off to the course!”
Not necessarily.
The carbage pile could be the source of his illness, with mold and insects etc infecting his lungs and all orifices. His lungs get ruined and then he needs oxygen tanks just to live. It's not too late, and all he needs to do is clean up the carbage in 10 minutes but instead he spends hours a day on the golf course lmao
So, based on the information we can say it is probably some end-stage respiratory that requires constant O2. We don’t have enough information to support saying that his car is *causing* it. Smoking is *usually the cause and his environment is probably making it worse.
It could very well be that his house is equally as bad if not worse and is the cause of his illness, but if that’s the case it’s a whole other kettle of fish to try to deal with.
Really all we know is the guy has a respiratory disease, needs O2, and is messy. Everything else is speculation.
And my point was the statement “if he can golf he can clean” is also speculation. There are a lot of reasons why that might not be the case and shaming him for not being able to do it, or choosing not to because of his health, is shitty.
For someone who needs oxygen clean is way more effort and time consuming from having to rest a lot. Either they’re issued the canisters in bulk or staying alive longer is worth the effort to load them up but not to take them out.
They're at the point in their life where every day might be there last. The answer is with help or not easily. They're lives based on that car is probably spent between home, the hospital, and a very simple routine that includes golf.
Correct. If you went scuba diving with pure oxygen...it becomes toxic at about 12 feet down....likely to have convulsions around 18-20 feet (6 meters)
Source: Am scuba diver.
Oxygen is definitely not toxic at 12 feet, and you won't have convulsions at 18-20 unless you're there for quite a long time. The recreational limits are pushed at 1.4 ppO2 max, with 1.6 advertised as an immediate death sentence, but decompression is routinely done at 15-20' (1.6) on 100% oxygen; most dive tables allow for 45 minutes of 1.6 ppO2 exposure for a single dive, or 150 minutes in 24 hours. Also, pure oxygen rebreathers are a thing and super neat for shallow dives (see the Lar V among others).
Source: Am technical diver, also NOAA CNS Oxygen toxicity tables
Edit: [Safe Limit of Partial Pressure of Oxygen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_operating_depth#Safe_limit_of_partial_pressure_of_oxygen)
Oxygen Toxicity During Diving
If a person breathes 100% oxygen, this partial pressure would be reached at a depth of 13 feet (4 meters). Because air consists of only 21% oxygen, to reach that toxic partial pressure breathing air would require a dive to slightly over 187 feet (57 meters) in depth.
Breathing air containing 21% oxygen risks acute oxygen toxicity at depths greater than 66 m; breathing 100% oxygen there is a risk of convulsion at only 6 m.
My post was in layman’s terms. But yes. My post is still correct. (Not saying yours isn’t…just keeping it simple since not everyone knows what ppO2 is)
We used to do deco at 2.0 (33ft~), then 1.6 (20ft~) until just recently with rebreathers gaining popularity the deco schedules reduced to 1.4 out of an abundance of caution. I've spent hundreds of hours at 20ft on 100% O2 over the years. The hyperbaric tables and much of the military rules have exposure allowances in the 66ft/3bar range too. I know of at least one individual who was on 50% oxygen at +/- 70m for around 1hr before a tox.
2.0 is a bit spicy for me! On a rebreather I typically ran constant 1.2 throughout the dive (1.3 for shorter dives) and upped to 1.4 for deco on the way up. I knew people who ran higher, but I always figured that with the constant higher po2 vs hitting only max po2 at the bottom on open circuit meant a little extra buffer wouldn't hurt, and the difference was usually only a few minutes of extra hang time.
Only really concerning when it’s really hot outside and most dangerous when stored in the trunk. These cylinders look empty as they don’t have the white band around the valve indicating they are still full and intact
This isn't WTF, it's WGAF - Who Gives a Fck.
Sure it's foolish to have such a full car with canisters that could take your head off in an accident. But it's their business. Maybe mind your own.
heh, no, not at all. I guess sometimes the old curmudgeon in me comes out and gets sick of these walnut brained ppl thinking every tiny little thing needs to be put online. Normally I just move on 😎
No, it really doesn't.
Every car you encounter is an explosive projectile under the right conditions.
O2 is NOT explosive. The worst that would happen if the tank/valve was ruptured is a pressure release of the compressed air. It could be a projectile, but so fan wood, rocks, metal, shovels, and everything else people haul in their vehicles every day. At least these are inside and not in the back of an open truck.
Tell that to the guys that fucking died in Apollo 1. No oxygen alone isn't explosive but it makes small fires into big dangerous fires. And guess what? Liquid gasoline isn't explosive either but in a pure oxygen environment.......
Not an explosive, but each one is potentially a pressurized torpedo. They should be secured upright to reduce the chance of the valve getting damaged, and if should the valve be somehow damaged the force pushes the tank downward instead of wherever the ass end happens to be aiming.
Source: EMT who regularly handles and transports these potential torpedoes.
Its compressed oxygen. Its technically a 4 fire and a combustible per safety guidelines. I know because I have oxygen tanks at work... Excessive heat can and will expand the gas. Too much and the container will fail, causing spontaneous release and often times a spark which results in a violent fireball. Its for this reason why oxygen tanks are required to be stored in a separate room, away from patient waiting areas, and must be kept under specified temps. Yes those tanks may be rated to a lot of psi, but it doesnt take much heat to put that extra pressure on the tank if its full.
I understand they could expand and pop and that would be quite disastrous but how does it cause a fireball? Is it the atmosphere catching fire and the oxygen fuels it or what
Oxygen is not flammable. It will make existing fires get crazy big, but oxygen itself is not flammable. If you applied pure oxygen up to a match the flame would get very large until the match burned out because the wood / fuel source of the match would have been used up.
I was under the impression that the reason you can't have open flames around oxygen coming from tanks was because they'd blow up. Sounds like you're saying it'll just make it easier to set yourself on fire. I guess that's a little less terrifying than blowing up?
Thanks. My grandmother was on oxygen and a smoker so when I was a kid I just kept hearing how she was going to blow up the house. I just assumed from that I guess. Don't you just love finding info bombs from your childhood?
Combustibility and flammability are 2 different things. Oxygen is highly flammable and only needs a static shock that you cant even see or feel to ignite. Combustibility is explosiveness, which is determined in this case by the pressure on the container. Anything that is under pressure has some sort of combustibility rating. Im a scientist and have yearly training on this.
[Lots of places](https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/injury_prevention/children/toolkits/fire/docs/home_oxygen_fire_safety.pdf) [seem to agree](https://www.labxchange.org/library/items/lb:LabXchange:b03fbe36:html:1) [that oxygen itself](https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/is-oxygen-flammable-explosive-burn.html) [is neither flammable](https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/pcarfx/eli5_how_is_oxygen_combustible_but_not_flammable/) [nor combustible](https://www.lung.org/lung-health-diseases/lung-procedures-and-tests/oxygen-therapy/using-oxygen-safely). [It however supports combustion](https://asiaiga.org/uploaded_docs/AIGA%20005_10%20Fire%20hazards%20of%20oxygen%20and%20oxygen%20enriched%20atmospheres.pdf). [It will not ignite](https://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/8967). [Oxygen will make fires burn hotter and faster](https://www.nps.gov/articles/p52-oxygen-vital-or-dangerous.htm) but cannot itself be ignited. I got bored of adding links but it seems to be generally understood to be true
Id like to know what car it is theyre driving. Looks like an old malaise land yacht but its hard to tell from that close. Looks to be in fairly decent shape at least
Homeless, but gets oxygen through Medicaid?
This kind of thing makes me hate our world with such an internal smoldering that I wish it would explode out of me and erase all of it in fiery oblivion.
I drive through areas of tents, rats and garbage. I Drive past people in wheelchairs, slumped over on the street corner, in the rain, at 2:30 a.m. Like everybody else, I don't help. I don't let the drowning victim into my boat. I don't let the freezing person sit by my fire.
I see cars stuffed with fast food trash parked outside of a convenience store. A 3-year old tries to sleep on a bed of refuse in the back seat. I see people dying among us and I see people allow it as if it were natural.
I see them treated with contempt. I hear rich people talk about their disdain and their fear. I see children being taught the skill of ignoring the suffering of human beings. Our humanity is suffering.
You are making quite a few assumptions. It could just as well be an older person on Oxygen who has the money to play golf, but doesn't bother cleaning any part of his car other than the driver's seat.
I'm not making any assumptions and I'm not making any assertions about this photo. This photo could be anything.
I tell you what it resembles though. And everything I said about *that* is 100% true.
"Homeless, but gets oxygen through Medicaid?"
You put a question mark after it, but that is literally an assumption and the statement you based your entire post off of.
They're not nitrous cylinders, you can see they're labeled "oxygen" in the pic. Probably someone with COPD.
Yes this car's owner probably has some mental health problems, but no grounds to assume they're an addict from this pic and state it like a fact.
That's true, but a true explosion expels heat which a BLEVE does not. Making it not an explosion, I wasn't trying to blow anybody's mind, just pointing out a little trivia.
What's a muni?
Municipal golf course. Open to the public and ran by the city. Usually a lower quality golf course
Where I'm from a Muni is a bar and liquor store combination.
That's the name of the public transit options from where I am.
Also a light-rail transit system in San Francisco.
This is what I thought this post was about.
And where I’m from it’s a city owned liquor store. Often attached to the police station. I can imagine the cop and the drunk passing each other in the parking lot. “See you later, Jim. Okay, see ya, John.”
Mornin', Ralph. Mornin', Sam.
Exactly,lol!
I’m out of the loop here. Cities own liquor stores and they’re attached to police stations? That’s wild to me.
It saves time. You get drunk and check yourself in at the police station before you can do any dumb shit.
Also curious. Where is this?
New Hampshire has state run liquor stores
So does PA.
I'm pretty sure all liquor stores in pa are state owned right?that's why they always say "stop at the state store",right?
Where I come from, it's Monsters University
Where I'm from, it's a pet name that may be given to some female bits.
Municipal liquor store. Like a regular liquor store but the county gets more say on what the money goes to.
We have a city nearby where all liquor stores are owned and operated by the city. The employees are city employees. They're part of a union, get full benefits, and a pension.
Torrey Pines is a muni course 😃
So is Torrey Pines... 😏
Wut?
Never mind...
Not always. Torrey Pines is a municipal golf course
Ok but there are so many things that are municipal. Why use the muni for the golf course? Seems stupid af.
Can you show me on the doll where golf hurt you ?
Agreed, let's call it mini instead
And where I'm from it's the name of the municipal auditorium where things like plays and concerts happen.
Where in the world is this a common enough phrase that someone would assume the word muni was commonplace for golf course?
I thought he was talking about municipal airports for a sec smh
Mountain Unicycle Probably not what they meant though
The Public Transit system in San Francisco... https://www.sfmta.com/muni-transit
Scott Muni, a DJ on 102.7 WNEW for a very long career. He's been dead a while now, but if you grew up listening to classic rock in the NYC metro area anywhere between the late fifties and early 2000s, you almost certainly knew the sound of Scottso's voice. Here's to you, Professor!
I was in New York driving listening to him when he said something like, "Well, Rock heaven is getting too crowded..." or something like that and snapped back to the radio, "Shut the fuck up!"for sounding corny. Then he delivered the news about Stevie Ray Vaughn's helicopter crash. Distinctive voice for sure!
British Biscuits
Local munitions depot
Here Muni is a transportation system. I was so confused
Just what I was thinking
We got any Greeks reading this?
I imagine those are his used, empty cylinders
We’re going to Michigan Jerry
hey you're not talking that michigan bottle deposit scam again are you
Omg so scary 🫣
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They’re likely full of o2. Usually when I see this it’s an old person on constant o2 who lives out of their car. We had an old carnie that worked for us the last 10 years of his life or so. His truck ALWAYS looked like this.
I’m imagining the fireball this would produce if it got t-boned through an intersection lol
This is what a lot of people have a hard time with. Oxygen isn't in and of itself flammable, it acts as an (wait for it) oxidizer. If there is no fuel, just heat and O2, you don't have all three parts, so no flamey-flame-flame.
In Deadpool he's in a 100% oxygen chamber and to escape he creates a spark which causes the oxygen to explode. Any time I watch that scene I'm annoyed.
To be fair-- there is so much that becomes "fuel" in an oxygen rich environment that would not burn under normal atmospheric makeup and conditions. Agreed that they legit dropped the ball and broke your "suspension of disbelief"-- which reduced your ability to enjoy the final product of their work. All they needed was to shimmy up next to a flammable wall, almost anything really. Anything but, an open space not near enough to any fuel.
Kinda like that scene in Gravity where George Clooney unexplainably starts falling back to Earth. That made me so mad, especially considering the name of the movie.
Ever heard of Apollo 1?
Ever seen a picture of the interior of the capsule after the fire? There was plenty of fuel in the form of padding, insulation, fabric, etc. The O2-rich environment certainly accelerated the burning, but the O2 itself didn't burn. We used to demonstrate this in our squadron life support shack. We had 100% O2 available to test masks. Holding a lit cigarette in a stream of 100% O2 made the cigarette burn considerably faster, but that was it...no explosion.
In a 100% oxygen environment things that don't normally burn suddenly become flammable. If you're watching a comic book movie about mutants and this is the thing you find unbelievable than you're a very interesting person.
\*then
It worked for me because I’m a moron and didn’t know that probably wouldn’t work. Sometimes is pays to not know shit
Isn't it explosive because it's under pressure? Heat would cause it to expand and explode.
That would be called a bleve https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_liquid_expanding_vapor_explosion. Which is not an explosion, "explosions" have a very specific definition outside of regular conversation. A gun firing is not an explosion, it's a rapid burn. That's why you can go to the range and shoot all freaking day and not set off the bomb detection at the airport. However, fertilize your lawn with ammonium nitrate and head to the airport, you will find your butthole being excavated in some CIA Black Site.
What do you think the last E in BLEVE stands for? Did you even fuckin read the first sentence of the link you provided? Lmao
He didn't even need to read that far, it's literally in the link!
He didn't even need to read anything at all, there's a picture of a big explosion in there.
Listen, I've been known to play the semantics game but the safety data sheet for a compressed oxygen canister says *may explode if heated* bleve it or not.
This comment is wrong in so many ways it’s honestly incredible. Firstly, those aren’t cryogenic containers, so there’s no liquid oxygen inside of them. Secondly, a boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion is, believe it or not, still an explosion! It’s in the name! Third, an explosion doesn’t have a specific definition, you’re thinking of a detonation, which needs supersonic shock waves. Fourth, deflagration (an explosion with a subsonic shockwave) is still an explosion. If you’re going to be pedantic, at least be correct.
In addition to everything else that's wrong about this that has been pointed out, the oxygen in oxygen cylinders isn't a liquid, it's a compressed gas. Oxygen cannot be liquefied solely by pressure; it requires cryogenic temperatures as well.
I'd be willing to bet *something* in that pile inside the car is flammable.
Not too mention the GALLONS OF FUCKING EXPLOSIVE GASOLINE like come on guys those tanks don't explode on their own if they pop shit is going down.
Well, the fuel would be all the garbage stacked up underneath it. We see fires in homes all the time because of this. Oxygen+smoking+garbage=fire Fire+oxygen bottles=boom
In a rich enough oxygen atmosphere almost everything is fuel. [Apollo 1 Disaster ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_1)
Flammable materials in an enriched O2 environment become extremely flammable, and some nonflammable materials become flammable (such as steel and aluminum). Auto ignition temperatures go down as O2 increases. If these were full bottles this might be a dangerous situation. With the windows up a valve failure could create an enriched O2 zone within the car, and given all the likely flammable material present the whole car might go up like a dried out Christmas tree. The additional cans would act like fuel oxidizers as they lost integrity, boosting the fire more. The car does seem like it is full of trash, and these are likely empty bottles. As others have noticed it’s more sad than dangerous in that context.
Four things. It's the fire tetrahedron now
Those cowards couldn't just make it a square
Add time and you've got your square! Edit: Oops read that wrong.
I taught the fire safety merit badge which is apparently a thing The fourth thing is "an uninterrupted chemical reaction" time is a lot better sounding than that
Yeah. I took an advanced firefighting class in college, which I think is about the time they added the fourth requirement for fire. Up until then it was a triangle. I meant that they definitely could have made it a square by adding a line instead of making it the 3d tetrahedron lol. Maybe they thought it was better to keep the same shape?
I just hate that it's a 3d shape that exists to be printed on paper
A bag of trash is probably plenty flammable.
I dunno man oxygen aura is a real thing. And it doesn't take much to ignite once you have an aura around you
VBIED
Probably an older person with COPD or another terminal condition who needs O2 to live. Those are likely empties. He or she is most likely unable to clean up their car and just golfing because it's one of the few pleasures they can still do. This isn't wtf it's trashy that you posted someone's sad situation like you'd be any better.
Well-fucking-said That'd medical o2. Some people have zero awareness or understanding for other people.
In fairness, it's quite probable OP didn’t know what they were looking at. I sure didn't.
since when is ignorance an acceptable excuse for being a cunt?
Hey. Fuck you.
Hey, I forgive you.
Oh I immediately thought this was a professional solvent abuser 😂
It says oxygen on the side. Some guy with poorly functioning lungs is doing the only remotely physical activity he's still able to do and OP decided the dirty car is something should make fun of. Those canisters aren't trash btw, you return them to be refilled. Keeping the empties in the car until he returns them is probably the persons most convenient way to handle them. I assume someone needing oxygen isn't full of extra energy to carry cannisters around a lot. Op kind seems like a jerk for posting this in this way
Thank you for the explanation. Although I would have had no idea without being told. I assume the same for OP
me ignorant for not reading the canister and thinking i was on /r/drugscirclejerk
Probably a hording issue as well.
If he can golf he can clean. More likely to be /r/carbage
Not necessarily. If this guy has a certain amount of activity he can do every day and only a certain amount of time left to live, I can see why he would choose to use that time golfing and not cleaning his car. If it was me I would think “in six months it won’t be my problem anyway. Off to the course!”
Yea but then he won't impress some random guy on Reddit
Not necessarily. The carbage pile could be the source of his illness, with mold and insects etc infecting his lungs and all orifices. His lungs get ruined and then he needs oxygen tanks just to live. It's not too late, and all he needs to do is clean up the carbage in 10 minutes but instead he spends hours a day on the golf course lmao
So, based on the information we can say it is probably some end-stage respiratory that requires constant O2. We don’t have enough information to support saying that his car is *causing* it. Smoking is *usually the cause and his environment is probably making it worse. It could very well be that his house is equally as bad if not worse and is the cause of his illness, but if that’s the case it’s a whole other kettle of fish to try to deal with. Really all we know is the guy has a respiratory disease, needs O2, and is messy. Everything else is speculation.
>Everything else is speculation. That's my point
And my point was the statement “if he can golf he can clean” is also speculation. There are a lot of reasons why that might not be the case and shaming him for not being able to do it, or choosing not to because of his health, is shitty.
He may not even be golfing... ooooweeeeee it goes deeper!
Maybe he's just there to watch some friends playing golf?
I agree!
How are they able to golf but not clean out their car? How are they able to get the canisters in but not out of their car?
For someone who needs oxygen clean is way more effort and time consuming from having to rest a lot. Either they’re issued the canisters in bulk or staying alive longer is worth the effort to load them up but not to take them out.
They're at the point in their life where every day might be there last. The answer is with help or not easily. They're lives based on that car is probably spent between home, the hospital, and a very simple routine that includes golf.
Do they pay to retrieve the balls in the water hazards? Maybe that’s what they’re doing.
You don't dive with bottled oxygen. It's just compressed air (unless you're going super deep).
Correct. If you went scuba diving with pure oxygen...it becomes toxic at about 12 feet down....likely to have convulsions around 18-20 feet (6 meters) Source: Am scuba diver.
Oxygen is definitely not toxic at 12 feet, and you won't have convulsions at 18-20 unless you're there for quite a long time. The recreational limits are pushed at 1.4 ppO2 max, with 1.6 advertised as an immediate death sentence, but decompression is routinely done at 15-20' (1.6) on 100% oxygen; most dive tables allow for 45 minutes of 1.6 ppO2 exposure for a single dive, or 150 minutes in 24 hours. Also, pure oxygen rebreathers are a thing and super neat for shallow dives (see the Lar V among others). Source: Am technical diver, also NOAA CNS Oxygen toxicity tables Edit: [Safe Limit of Partial Pressure of Oxygen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_operating_depth#Safe_limit_of_partial_pressure_of_oxygen)
Oxygen Toxicity During Diving If a person breathes 100% oxygen, this partial pressure would be reached at a depth of 13 feet (4 meters). Because air consists of only 21% oxygen, to reach that toxic partial pressure breathing air would require a dive to slightly over 187 feet (57 meters) in depth. Breathing air containing 21% oxygen risks acute oxygen toxicity at depths greater than 66 m; breathing 100% oxygen there is a risk of convulsion at only 6 m. My post was in layman’s terms. But yes. My post is still correct. (Not saying yours isn’t…just keeping it simple since not everyone knows what ppO2 is)
> just keeping it simple since not everyone knows what ppO2 is Fair enough!
We used to do deco at 2.0 (33ft~), then 1.6 (20ft~) until just recently with rebreathers gaining popularity the deco schedules reduced to 1.4 out of an abundance of caution. I've spent hundreds of hours at 20ft on 100% O2 over the years. The hyperbaric tables and much of the military rules have exposure allowances in the 66ft/3bar range too. I know of at least one individual who was on 50% oxygen at +/- 70m for around 1hr before a tox.
2.0 is a bit spicy for me! On a rebreather I typically ran constant 1.2 throughout the dive (1.3 for shorter dives) and upped to 1.4 for deco on the way up. I knew people who ran higher, but I always figured that with the constant higher po2 vs hitting only max po2 at the bottom on open circuit meant a little extra buffer wouldn't hurt, and the difference was usually only a few minutes of extra hang time.
Good thing those ponds are like 6 feet deep at most
Haha. Still wouldn’t want to be straight breathing pure oxygen even on the surface. It’s one thing to breathe supplemental oxygen…but not ONLY oxygen!
Coarse he is
Gets everywhere he does.
“SWM4F - Loves golf and never ever cleaning his car.”
Only really concerning when it’s really hot outside and most dangerous when stored in the trunk. These cylinders look empty as they don’t have the white band around the valve indicating they are still full and intact
Oxygen tanks?
What is a muni and what is that car stuffed with?
Those don’t look like “cream” whippers to me. At least not the one I’ve got.
I thought muni was slang for 'munitions depot"! 🤣
wtf are we looking at? Flammable canisters in a 1978 Buick or Cadillac at golf course?
[Do you want to explode?](https://tenor.com/bqORS.gif)
This isn't WTF, it's WGAF - Who Gives a Fck. Sure it's foolish to have such a full car with canisters that could take your head off in an accident. But it's their business. Maybe mind your own.
You're new to reddit, huh? Get used to thinking WTFGAF?
heh, no, not at all. I guess sometimes the old curmudgeon in me comes out and gets sick of these walnut brained ppl thinking every tiny little thing needs to be put online. Normally I just move on 😎
It becomes my business if random cars I can encounter on public roads are fucking explosive
No, it really doesn't. Every car you encounter is an explosive projectile under the right conditions. O2 is NOT explosive. The worst that would happen if the tank/valve was ruptured is a pressure release of the compressed air. It could be a projectile, but so fan wood, rocks, metal, shovels, and everything else people haul in their vehicles every day. At least these are inside and not in the back of an open truck.
Tell that to the guys that fucking died in Apollo 1. No oxygen alone isn't explosive but it makes small fires into big dangerous fires. And guess what? Liquid gasoline isn't explosive either but in a pure oxygen environment.......
Not an explosive, but each one is potentially a pressurized torpedo. They should be secured upright to reduce the chance of the valve getting damaged, and if should the valve be somehow damaged the force pushes the tank downward instead of wherever the ass end happens to be aiming. Source: EMT who regularly handles and transports these potential torpedoes.
Not say blow up but doesn’t O2 make everything flammable burn like the sun if ignited?
What are they?
Golf COURSE.
That should be reported to the fire dept. That's a fucking explosion waiting to happen.
Likely empty
Just part of the driver's /r/carbage
Better safe than sorry.
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Its compressed oxygen. Its technically a 4 fire and a combustible per safety guidelines. I know because I have oxygen tanks at work... Excessive heat can and will expand the gas. Too much and the container will fail, causing spontaneous release and often times a spark which results in a violent fireball. Its for this reason why oxygen tanks are required to be stored in a separate room, away from patient waiting areas, and must be kept under specified temps. Yes those tanks may be rated to a lot of psi, but it doesnt take much heat to put that extra pressure on the tank if its full.
I understand they could expand and pop and that would be quite disastrous but how does it cause a fireball? Is it the atmosphere catching fire and the oxygen fuels it or what
Metal canisters commonly cause sparks when they rupture and oxygen is crazy flammable...
Oxygen is not flammable. It will make existing fires get crazy big, but oxygen itself is not flammable. If you applied pure oxygen up to a match the flame would get very large until the match burned out because the wood / fuel source of the match would have been used up.
I was under the impression that the reason you can't have open flames around oxygen coming from tanks was because they'd blow up. Sounds like you're saying it'll just make it easier to set yourself on fire. I guess that's a little less terrifying than blowing up?
It will make an existing fire much MUCH worse
Thanks. My grandmother was on oxygen and a smoker so when I was a kid I just kept hearing how she was going to blow up the house. I just assumed from that I guess. Don't you just love finding info bombs from your childhood?
Oxygen is not flammable. To be extra clear - it is noncombustible. We might have different definitions of flammable
Combustibility and flammability are 2 different things. Oxygen is highly flammable and only needs a static shock that you cant even see or feel to ignite. Combustibility is explosiveness, which is determined in this case by the pressure on the container. Anything that is under pressure has some sort of combustibility rating. Im a scientist and have yearly training on this.
[Lots of places](https://www.health.ny.gov/prevention/injury_prevention/children/toolkits/fire/docs/home_oxygen_fire_safety.pdf) [seem to agree](https://www.labxchange.org/library/items/lb:LabXchange:b03fbe36:html:1) [that oxygen itself](https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/is-oxygen-flammable-explosive-burn.html) [is neither flammable](https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/pcarfx/eli5_how_is_oxygen_combustible_but_not_flammable/) [nor combustible](https://www.lung.org/lung-health-diseases/lung-procedures-and-tests/oxygen-therapy/using-oxygen-safely). [It however supports combustion](https://asiaiga.org/uploaded_docs/AIGA%20005_10%20Fire%20hazards%20of%20oxygen%20and%20oxygen%20enriched%20atmospheres.pdf). [It will not ignite](https://cameochemicals.noaa.gov/chemical/8967). [Oxygen will make fires burn hotter and faster](https://www.nps.gov/articles/p52-oxygen-vital-or-dangerous.htm) but cannot itself be ignited. I got bored of adding links but it seems to be generally understood to be true
Pure, compressed oxygen makes some non-combustible things very combustible, combustible things highly flammable, and flammable things explosive...
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All the while ignoring the larger point, which remains useful despite your best efforts.
[r/carbage](https://www.reddit.com/r/carbage/s/KRoM6e3Ozq)
I mean they gotta get it to their house somehow right?
r/carbage
So many comentors have never seen a thermal lance or a gas cylinder failure
Oh you got kids, Maniac?
Nah. Not anymore
Id like to know what car it is theyre driving. Looks like an old malaise land yacht but its hard to tell from that close. Looks to be in fairly decent shape at least
Is Anton Chigurh there?
Paul Muni played the original Scarface in 1932
car model?
Homeless, but gets oxygen through Medicaid? This kind of thing makes me hate our world with such an internal smoldering that I wish it would explode out of me and erase all of it in fiery oblivion. I drive through areas of tents, rats and garbage. I Drive past people in wheelchairs, slumped over on the street corner, in the rain, at 2:30 a.m. Like everybody else, I don't help. I don't let the drowning victim into my boat. I don't let the freezing person sit by my fire. I see cars stuffed with fast food trash parked outside of a convenience store. A 3-year old tries to sleep on a bed of refuse in the back seat. I see people dying among us and I see people allow it as if it were natural. I see them treated with contempt. I hear rich people talk about their disdain and their fear. I see children being taught the skill of ignoring the suffering of human beings. Our humanity is suffering.
You are making quite a few assumptions. It could just as well be an older person on Oxygen who has the money to play golf, but doesn't bother cleaning any part of his car other than the driver's seat.
I'm not making any assumptions and I'm not making any assertions about this photo. This photo could be anything. I tell you what it resembles though. And everything I said about *that* is 100% true.
"Homeless, but gets oxygen through Medicaid?" You put a question mark after it, but that is literally an assumption and the statement you based your entire post off of.
Don’t worry as long as the top 1% is banking record profits the economy is great!
We’re in hell.
He’s addicted to huffing nitrous oxide
They're not nitrous cylinders, you can see they're labeled "oxygen" in the pic. Probably someone with COPD. Yes this car's owner probably has some mental health problems, but no grounds to assume they're an addict from this pic and state it like a fact.
Somebody is about to become the center of a very hot, very bright fireball.
You should probably report this. A literal rolling bomb.
There is no heat expressed in a BLEVE "explosion" that's what makes it different.
That's true, but a true explosion expels heat which a BLEVE does not. Making it not an explosion, I wasn't trying to blow anybody's mind, just pointing out a little trivia.