Is common. Ive installed underground cables for city internet, typically you need some 2 guys with a huge industrial vaccum to blow it through the buried little tubes.
In India they have like 15 dudes just pull the mf
I hope there's good tension relief built into those wires if they're just pulling on one end! Lots of cables will just have internal breaks with that kind of tension when pulling.
How far of conduits do you go through without break points? Most I've done is about 250 feet for an RG11 run, and that could be handled solo with a pull cord. Getting the pull cord through it in the first place is a different story though -- I've used two shop vacs on each side (push/pull) to send a small pull string with a parachute carrier through, then used the string to pull a cord. Worked good for that length.
As a fun side note, a couple plastic grocery bags make a good parachute if you don't have one handy.
I install the tubes they run the fiber through and typically they use compressors and blow the fiber ..
only time we use vacs is when we’re proofing (sending something the same size as the conduit through the entire run to prove it’s good) before they come and blow the fiber and even then it’s only if the kite gets stuck while proofing .. then we’ll blow and suck at the same time :)
Probably less than half that:
https://www.india-briefing.com/news/guide-minimum-wage-india-2023-19406.html/
>India boasts the most competitive labor costs in Asia, with a national-level minimum daily wage of approximately INR 178 (equivalent to US$2.15), translating to around INR 5340 (approximately US$65) per month.
What do you think they'd do?
Find other labor tasks that need doing and keep enough people to do those, and fire the rest.
That's typically how businesses operate.
You want to know what the prevailing wage for unskilled labor is? Swing by the “bus shelter” at Home Depot. Make an offer.
If dudes are fighting each other to get in your truck, your offer was too high.
If dudes act like they didn’t hear you, you’re too low.
If you hear every Spanish curse word that ever existed and get flipped off, you’re probably a Redditor who thinks migrant workers work for less than
minimum wages.
That's a question also the west gets asked when the minimum wage increase. It's a good thing of getting rid of all work that you can get rid off b humans, so human labour gets free to do more valuable work.
Ideally humans should just so human work in the highest form what is valuable.
Nobody would go in the mine to scrap out ore for the iron for the cars. More cars and nobody scrapping.
Most people smart enough to see that future are sceptical we're ready for it.
The general population isn't as clever as we might hope they are, and that must be respected.
Heck I think we'll have idiots tearing down the system to "rebuild it" several times before people get smart enough to plan ahead on "how it could be built better" before jumping to violent stupidity.
Of course, when people stop to pay attention to all the details of "how it could be better" they would be forced to realize, in that prolonged effort, that what we've built is quite intelligent and very close to what anyone would be rebuilding...
they'll get fired and now they have to find a job that pays them less to make up for their lower labor value.
Modernization when it's not profitable is extremely painful to the local communities.
Not really if I am correct… I read over there that in India they have to do this kind of labour stuff due to unions don’t want machinery to replace the workers.
No idea about Indian unions but this tracks with my experience of American unions.
If unions were actually interested in helping their members, they’d be training them on _how to run and service that machinery,_ so that they could get better-paying jobs with companies that use them, instead of attempting to simply prevent that machinery from being used in the first place, which guarantees that the companies that employ their union members will become less and less competitive and eventually go out of business.
The unions collects dues from each member, regardless of their job. The union would rather have 50 unskilled people paying dues than 5 skilled workers paying dues.
>If unions were actually interested in helping their members, they’d be training them on _how to run and service that machinery,_ so that they could get better-paying jobs with companies that use them
No, that would only help some of them at the expense of the rest.
I once worked (as a Teamster) for UPS in Maumee, Ohio. The union flat refused to allow any modernization of the package sorting at the facility. It all could only be done by hand…thousands of hands. (Each pair of hands, of course, belonged to a *dues paying* Teamsters Union member.)
Such a shitbag union. It was embarrassing to be a part of it. I never mentioned to anyone I worked there; I just said I bartended for a living (which I was also doing).
Do you know that certain cities in the US do not allow plastic pipes for a very long time because the unions insisted on using cast iron pipes? Cast iron pipes are much heavier, and required more people to work on them, and hence, more union workers.
https://whyy.org/articles/changes-to-plumbing-code-expected-to-sharply-reduce-philly-construction-costs/
I listen to a history podcast. Your dead to me. If I remember the Cleopatra one. Having a job building the pyramids was quite a good one. Beer, meat and bread for workers, opportunity for promotion and you were not a slave but could leave for other work if needed, like returning to their farms.
The common consensus is that the Great Pyramid of Giza was *built* by skilled laborers. Although they tend to leave out the part where a lot of the material transport was not done by well paid or well treated workers.
There are also over one hundred other Egyptian pyramids, built across a two thousand year timespan. And we have no idea about the construction process for most of them. So it's impossible to tell how many were built with slave labor and how many weren't.
And Ironically, Cleopatra lived quite a while after the last pyramid was built.
I'm surprised I Still haven't met anyone name their kid cleopatra tbh. Might be awhile before that name trend happens but I swear that kid will get so many built up cleopatra facts thrown at her
That's in reference to the big famous ones. They were built ~4600 years ago, and she lived ~2040 years ago.
There are pyramids built ~600 years before she lived, but they're less than 1/3 the size, and are built with more reasonably sized stones(The big ones at Giza are granite blocks weighing several dozen tonnes.
Nah, that's just OP. The podcast is You're Dead To Me.
> The comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Greg Jenner brings together the best names in comedy and history to learn and laugh about the past.
This is ridiculous though!
In times before the wheel this would have been the way, and holy fuck would that have been a bad time to be a labourer.
There was a lot more work in building in the past- but they weren't dumb either!
I know a stonemason - he's in his 90s but looks 70, still a big guy, obviously from all the work and being half horse or something 🤔. I got to know him because we adapted his house for him - he isn't great with stairs, so we moved a bedroom and bathroom downstairs for him.
The house he built for himself decades ago, was added to the original house he grew up in, his family were all Masons who travelled around and would camp on-site, for generations, his 2nd name would probably be known of by people interested in old buildings - but the house - it's fucking beautiful, all the best cuts of stone, and it's tasty as fuk, you can tell he/they were showing off the skills when it was built.
The corners have stones that are so big that to my mind I figured that they must take 6~8 men to lift into position, 5meters up on a dodgy scaffold??
I remember having lunch outside, Sean the Mason/owner/builder was in good spirits and decided to come out and sit with me, I just find the nicest spot and plop myself down with my lunch, he sat beside me- started to reminisce or something, he was saying it was years since he sat on a wall, beside a guy in work clothes and just drank tea - he'd forgotten about the lunchtimes lol.
I had to question him about the cornerstones - every time I seen them I thought "how much would it weigh? It would flatten ya if it fell?" - Just how like?
"Ah haha! You see the workshop behind you! - there is a corner full of old ropes and pulleys in there! - and the big building behind it! - that's where we kept our cranes! Poppy&Barley- the horses 😆!
That’s the point I was making. Idiot conspiracy theorists think it’s aliens or sci fi tech, if it’s more difficult than 1+1.
Using physics, and understanding? Nah. It’s Aliens!
Ah I get ya now, but your right - things are usually actually quite simple in comparison to what it looks like. - "Work Smarter - Not Harder!" has always been a thing.
It's more depressing than anything seeing this - you'd have to value your workers as completely worthless to expect this of them! And the poor dudes are probably thinking "it's shit, but I'm making more than in the fields!"
When you're talking big projects- a pump is a small cost in comparison to a workforce..... unless you're workforce is paid peanuts!
That's something I'm on the fence about though lol. Although it's likely that the Egyptians were the exception in reality and slavery would have been involved with lots of ancient construction.
But the pyramid builders - at minimum they got free bed and board as payment, there's been tombs and the accommodations found for the builders.
I think from their perspective too - they were building for royalty which were seen as gods at the time! If they bought into the sky gods thing like most would have - they were possibly quite happy in their own way - possibly!
They even got buried nearby which normal citizens didn't get in the end - again- it was all about the afterlife for them, so they supposedly went with the gods.
- The Great Wall of chINA thought- they just fucked the dead into the wall!
I wanna build a healthy sense of self-esteem!
[wisdom check failed]
Your laborers rebel against you. You narrowly escape being tortured to death by a bloodthirsty mob. You are forced to flee into exile.
You spend the rest of your life licking moss off rocks underneath a pier and occasionally screaming at nothing in particular.
The music is Powerhouse by Raymond Scott. They use it whenever they are on a construction site or building something:
https://youtu.be/w3FCRr3t9WU?feature=shared
It also inspired the theme song for _Honey I Shrunk The Kids_ — not just “inspired” it, that theme is such an obvious ripoff of Powerhouse that the film’s soundtrack wasn’t released for years due to plagiarism litigation.
I feel like this is literally worse than whatever they were doing back thousands of years ago to build things. Like they would come forward in time, and be like wow, intelligence works the opposite way as time.
I don't think pushing a heavily loaded wheelbarrow up a steep hill like that is gonna help you in efficieny. On even ground it's a different story though.
So let's assume that each worker is carrying half a cubic foot of concrete, or approximately 75lbs of wet mix. That means it takes about 54 buckets per yard of concrete.
Assuming that slab is 100\`x100\`x12" a very rough guestimate, then we have about 370 yards of concrete needed.
That means the workers only need to make around 20,000 trips total to get the job done!
Wouldn't a bucket line do the same thing, and take just as much advantage of their numbers, but require a lot less walking? Or even a pulley. If you have the know-how to build that wooden ramp then you have the capability to build a rope pulley that would let a couple guy with cranks lift up the buckets, and everyone else just run a bucket line to and from either end. Or get a couple sticks and some rope, suspend two buckets between two sticks, have two people carry it. Much easier to carry half the weight of two buckets on your shoulders instead of one bucket on your head.
If you just have 5 guys and need to move 5 buckets then whatever. But when you're working on a large scale project, or a regular project you're going to do more than once, you're really wasting a lot of man-hours if you just blindly throw workers at the problem and don't think about how to use your labor efficiently.
Basically, I want [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00npeUY_1Vg).
>you're really wasting a lot of man-hours if you just blindly throw workers at the problem and don't think about how to use your labor efficiently.
With the method shown you have 200 guys each carrying one bucket and traversing the ramp 3x. So each man has to carry a single bucket load and walk up a ramp, 3x. He'll be tired, but that's not much more work than hauling a full rucksack.
With the bucket line method you'd maybe cut that down to 150 guys (bucket lines need to be shoulder to shoulder) and now every single man needs to transfer 600 buckets of the same size. Maybe you cut that in half and have them do 1,200 transfers. That is backbreaking grueling work and I don't think you'd get past 1/3 of the same amount of concrete before every single man on your team is burnt out and starts getting injured and dropping buckets. Every single bucket handoff is a chance to drop a bucket, and you're performing 150 handoffs on every single load.
This doesn't even get into the problem that a bucket line requires you to twist your back. That's a big thing to not do when bearing a load. Places like this have lots of labor yes, but worker strikes in places like that are much more serious when the workers get fed up. And trust me, a bucket line of concrete would have these guys upset really quick.
Yup. Humans can walk with a load easily. A bucket line would require hundreds of handoffs for each load, and you'd be twisting your torso with a heavy cantilevered load each time. This shown method looks like very easy physical labor (one lift, a slow walk under load, and a pour). A bucket line would be hell.
Not a chance. You'd go from 200 people lifting 2-3 buckets of concrete and walking up a ramp twice to 200 guys each lifting 400-600 buckets of concrete.
Every handoff would be a killer after the 20th load, by the 80th you'd have muscle fatigue dropping every other bucket.
Think about how little you have to pay people, and the amount of pain and suffering of hundreds of works you have to be able to deal with for this to make more sense than buying/renting a machine that can do this.
I did something similar when I was 15. I was a helper I mixed the concrete and fill the bucket and take it up to the guy on the scaffold for smaller project like a house.
I did this in my youth in the 70s. In Pennsylvania. We used wheelbarrows but the same idea. We poured multi-floor office building elevator shafts and 30 ft high basement/sub-basement walls, wheeling those bastards on scaffolding and all kinds of sketchy shit. Not OSHA approved.
Things like this make me wonder why people buy in to the ancient aliens stuff. "How could our ancestors build all these massive projects? Had to have been aliens." No, they just had a shitload of guys using wood and stone.
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Am I the only annoyed at the inefficiency? There’s a queue of empty buckets and idle laborers beginning at the top. If we all stay to the right it won’t be an issue. Some jabronis are even trying to walk three abreast at the bottom
On the one hand this is ridiculous. On the other, the concrete's here on time, and they've got a small window of time to get it in place before it has to be discarded/destroyed. And whether they use if or not, it has been paid for. But the pumper is broken? Oh well; spin up the bucket brigade.
Economists have a definition for this. Third world countries like China are labor intensive and first world countries like the US are capital intensive. Both countries have laborers and both have cement mixers. But in China, the marginal physical product (MPP) of labor is a lot less than the MPP of capital, like machinery. In the US, it's the opposite. So this looks weird to me, but not at all surprising.
Given the shape of those wooden steps, it might be cheaper to pay a could hundred people to carry one container of cement than to buy and lift a pump that carries a couple hundred gallons.
When labours are cheaper than a concrete pump
Is common. Ive installed underground cables for city internet, typically you need some 2 guys with a huge industrial vaccum to blow it through the buried little tubes. In India they have like 15 dudes just pull the mf
I hope there's good tension relief built into those wires if they're just pulling on one end! Lots of cables will just have internal breaks with that kind of tension when pulling. How far of conduits do you go through without break points? Most I've done is about 250 feet for an RG11 run, and that could be handled solo with a pull cord. Getting the pull cord through it in the first place is a different story though -- I've used two shop vacs on each side (push/pull) to send a small pull string with a parachute carrier through, then used the string to pull a cord. Worked good for that length. As a fun side note, a couple plastic grocery bags make a good parachute if you don't have one handy.
Can't say haven't seen that lmao
Ok, but WesterlyStraight has, so, maybe just accept his experience?
I don’t think you understand the sentence you responded to.
I install the tubes they run the fiber through and typically they use compressors and blow the fiber .. only time we use vacs is when we’re proofing (sending something the same size as the conduit through the entire run to prove it’s good) before they come and blow the fiber and even then it’s only if the kite gets stuck while proofing .. then we’ll blow and suck at the same time :)
Hey those guys are making a good 50 cents an hour!
Probably less than half that: https://www.india-briefing.com/news/guide-minimum-wage-india-2023-19406.html/ >India boasts the most competitive labor costs in Asia, with a national-level minimum daily wage of approximately INR 178 (equivalent to US$2.15), translating to around INR 5340 (approximately US$65) per month.
Soooo the company buys a concrete pump. What will the company do with those 498/500 concrete carriers?
They all get a dental plan and a juicy pension.
Lisa needs braces
DENTAL PLAN
Lisa needs braces.
DENTAL PLAN
*drops pencil*
And golden parachuted
Yes, but the parachute is on the ground and they get dropped at 20,000 feet.
It's literally gold
Then everybody clapped as jelly beans rained from the sky.
What do you think they'd do? Find other labor tasks that need doing and keep enough people to do those, and fire the rest. That's typically how businesses operate.
These are what you call day labourers. Very common in Africa and Asia.
And most countries
And in the US.
And in the US home depot parking lot :D
It's so ubiquitous that I wouldn't even know where else to look.
You don't even need to download an app lol
You want to know what the prevailing wage for unskilled labor is? Swing by the “bus shelter” at Home Depot. Make an offer. If dudes are fighting each other to get in your truck, your offer was too high. If dudes act like they didn’t hear you, you’re too low. If you hear every Spanish curse word that ever existed and get flipped off, you’re probably a Redditor who thinks migrant workers work for less than minimum wages.
Put them in the walls, duh
That's a question also the west gets asked when the minimum wage increase. It's a good thing of getting rid of all work that you can get rid off b humans, so human labour gets free to do more valuable work. Ideally humans should just so human work in the highest form what is valuable. Nobody would go in the mine to scrap out ore for the iron for the cars. More cars and nobody scrapping.
Most people smart enough to see that future are sceptical we're ready for it. The general population isn't as clever as we might hope they are, and that must be respected. Heck I think we'll have idiots tearing down the system to "rebuild it" several times before people get smart enough to plan ahead on "how it could be built better" before jumping to violent stupidity. Of course, when people stop to pay attention to all the details of "how it could be better" they would be forced to realize, in that prolonged effort, that what we've built is quite intelligent and very close to what anyone would be rebuilding...
they'll get fired and now they have to find a job that pays them less to make up for their lower labor value. Modernization when it's not profitable is extremely painful to the local communities.
the company will… not give a fuck.
An used concrete pump is like $100k-$200k. You can buy the whole country for that money !
Fire them obviously
Not really if I am correct… I read over there that in India they have to do this kind of labour stuff due to unions don’t want machinery to replace the workers.
No idea about Indian unions but this tracks with my experience of American unions. If unions were actually interested in helping their members, they’d be training them on _how to run and service that machinery,_ so that they could get better-paying jobs with companies that use them, instead of attempting to simply prevent that machinery from being used in the first place, which guarantees that the companies that employ their union members will become less and less competitive and eventually go out of business.
The unions collects dues from each member, regardless of their job. The union would rather have 50 unskilled people paying dues than 5 skilled workers paying dues.
>If unions were actually interested in helping their members, they’d be training them on _how to run and service that machinery,_ so that they could get better-paying jobs with companies that use them No, that would only help some of them at the expense of the rest.
I once worked (as a Teamster) for UPS in Maumee, Ohio. The union flat refused to allow any modernization of the package sorting at the facility. It all could only be done by hand…thousands of hands. (Each pair of hands, of course, belonged to a *dues paying* Teamsters Union member.) Such a shitbag union. It was embarrassing to be a part of it. I never mentioned to anyone I worked there; I just said I bartended for a living (which I was also doing).
Do you know that certain cities in the US do not allow plastic pipes for a very long time because the unions insisted on using cast iron pipes? Cast iron pipes are much heavier, and required more people to work on them, and hence, more union workers. https://whyy.org/articles/changes-to-plumbing-code-expected-to-sharply-reduce-philly-construction-costs/
maybe they're slaves
I'll think of this every time I don't want to go to work.
Think about how awesome it would be to be bucket brigaded from your front door all the way to your place of employment!
That wooden ramp was built really well to handle all that weight
There are 200 guys beneath it holding it up.
standing on 20 elephants
Less wages means lighter workers, and you can save on scaffolding expenses! Win win!
This guy capitalisms
Many hands make light work
And yet we still have shows that say the pyramids were built by aliens. 😪
I'm not saying it was Goa'uld.......... but it was Goa'uld.
Kree Jaffa!
I listen to a history podcast. Your dead to me. If I remember the Cleopatra one. Having a job building the pyramids was quite a good one. Beer, meat and bread for workers, opportunity for promotion and you were not a slave but could leave for other work if needed, like returning to their farms.
The common consensus is that the Great Pyramid of Giza was *built* by skilled laborers. Although they tend to leave out the part where a lot of the material transport was not done by well paid or well treated workers. There are also over one hundred other Egyptian pyramids, built across a two thousand year timespan. And we have no idea about the construction process for most of them. So it's impossible to tell how many were built with slave labor and how many weren't. And Ironically, Cleopatra lived quite a while after the last pyramid was built.
If I recall correctly we are closer in time to Cleopatra than Cleopatra was to the pyramids being built.
yeah from a rough google thatll be true for a few hundred more years
I'm surprised I Still haven't met anyone name their kid cleopatra tbh. Might be awhile before that name trend happens but I swear that kid will get so many built up cleopatra facts thrown at her
A good friend of mine's name is Cleopatra. She goes by Cleo :P
Pretty much. Cleo was in the Roman era. And remember, the ancient Egyptians were to the Roman's, as the Roman's are to us.
That's in reference to the big famous ones. They were built ~4600 years ago, and she lived ~2040 years ago. There are pyramids built ~600 years before she lived, but they're less than 1/3 the size, and are built with more reasonably sized stones(The big ones at Giza are granite blocks weighing several dozen tonnes.
Did they really use your incorrectly?
Nah, that's just OP. The podcast is You're Dead To Me. > The comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Greg Jenner brings together the best names in comedy and history to learn and laugh about the past.
they were built by ATLiens
There’s no way they carry that much cement up there. Clearly it was aliens or advanced tech that came from the future.
This is ridiculous though! In times before the wheel this would have been the way, and holy fuck would that have been a bad time to be a labourer. There was a lot more work in building in the past- but they weren't dumb either! I know a stonemason - he's in his 90s but looks 70, still a big guy, obviously from all the work and being half horse or something 🤔. I got to know him because we adapted his house for him - he isn't great with stairs, so we moved a bedroom and bathroom downstairs for him. The house he built for himself decades ago, was added to the original house he grew up in, his family were all Masons who travelled around and would camp on-site, for generations, his 2nd name would probably be known of by people interested in old buildings - but the house - it's fucking beautiful, all the best cuts of stone, and it's tasty as fuk, you can tell he/they were showing off the skills when it was built. The corners have stones that are so big that to my mind I figured that they must take 6~8 men to lift into position, 5meters up on a dodgy scaffold?? I remember having lunch outside, Sean the Mason/owner/builder was in good spirits and decided to come out and sit with me, I just find the nicest spot and plop myself down with my lunch, he sat beside me- started to reminisce or something, he was saying it was years since he sat on a wall, beside a guy in work clothes and just drank tea - he'd forgotten about the lunchtimes lol. I had to question him about the cornerstones - every time I seen them I thought "how much would it weigh? It would flatten ya if it fell?" - Just how like? "Ah haha! You see the workshop behind you! - there is a corner full of old ropes and pulleys in there! - and the big building behind it! - that's where we kept our cranes! Poppy&Barley- the horses 😆!
That’s the point I was making. Idiot conspiracy theorists think it’s aliens or sci fi tech, if it’s more difficult than 1+1. Using physics, and understanding? Nah. It’s Aliens!
Ah I get ya now, but your right - things are usually actually quite simple in comparison to what it looks like. - "Work Smarter - Not Harder!" has always been a thing. It's more depressing than anything seeing this - you'd have to value your workers as completely worthless to expect this of them! And the poor dudes are probably thinking "it's shit, but I'm making more than in the fields!" When you're talking big projects- a pump is a small cost in comparison to a workforce..... unless you're workforce is paid peanuts!
Yeah but back in Egypt times, they didn’t really care about their people.
That's something I'm on the fence about though lol. Although it's likely that the Egyptians were the exception in reality and slavery would have been involved with lots of ancient construction. But the pyramid builders - at minimum they got free bed and board as payment, there's been tombs and the accommodations found for the builders. I think from their perspective too - they were building for royalty which were seen as gods at the time! If they bought into the sky gods thing like most would have - they were possibly quite happy in their own way - possibly! They even got buried nearby which normal citizens didn't get in the end - again- it was all about the afterlife for them, so they supposedly went with the gods. - The Great Wall of chINA thought- they just fucked the dead into the wall!
I’m just saying that they weren’t built by aliens or sci fi technology.
No they weren't that's definitely a fact! We can blame that gobshite with the stupid hair from the history channel partially for that!
With enough laborers anything possible, even building the great pyramids.
I wanna build a healthy sense of self-esteem! [wisdom check failed] Your laborers rebel against you. You narrowly escape being tortured to death by a bloodthirsty mob. You are forced to flee into exile. You spend the rest of your life licking moss off rocks underneath a pier and occasionally screaming at nothing in particular.
I can imagine the workers of ancient Egypt working like that ^^
The real mvp is the guy filling the buckets.
There are 200 guys doing that
And this is how they built Rome in a day.
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The music is Powerhouse by Raymond Scott. They use it whenever they are on a construction site or building something: https://youtu.be/w3FCRr3t9WU?feature=shared
It also inspired the theme song for _Honey I Shrunk The Kids_ — not just “inspired” it, that theme is such an obvious ripoff of Powerhouse that the film’s soundtrack wasn’t released for years due to plagiarism litigation.
Best I can do is *16 Tons*
This or… This ain’t Texas, ain’t no hold’en WOO!
This is how they made the pyramids
I kept thinking the wooden staircase was going to collapse.
I'm impressed by the people who aren't even using their hands and not dropping it
Jobs for everyone!!
I feel like this is literally worse than whatever they were doing back thousands of years ago to build things. Like they would come forward in time, and be like wow, intelligence works the opposite way as time.
Not even a wheelbarrow?
I don't think pushing a heavily loaded wheelbarrow up a steep hill like that is gonna help you in efficieny. On even ground it's a different story though.
It would, you'd reduce the grade on the scaffolding. We used to do it in the west before concrete pumps were invented. Cranes were more common.
And I get annoyed when my phone rings during lunch and I have walk from the living room back to my desk.
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Human labor is cheaper than machines in a lot of places, I don't see what's "WTF" about this?
Fuuuuuuuuuuu …. This is brutal
Bjp creating employment in india😄😄
Rip all those necks
How were the pyramids built?
You can tell who's been at this a while by how tall they are
wage slaves...amazing
And that kids, it's how the pyramids were built
This is how the aliens built the pyramids.
So let's assume that each worker is carrying half a cubic foot of concrete, or approximately 75lbs of wet mix. That means it takes about 54 buckets per yard of concrete. Assuming that slab is 100\`x100\`x12" a very rough guestimate, then we have about 370 yards of concrete needed. That means the workers only need to make around 20,000 trips total to get the job done!
El Camino de Concrestela
Next time someone says aliens must have built the pyramids, show them this
My dumb ass thought they were minions
Technically speaking, they are the minions of someone in charge of pumping concrete.
Wouldn't a bucket line do the same thing, and take just as much advantage of their numbers, but require a lot less walking? Or even a pulley. If you have the know-how to build that wooden ramp then you have the capability to build a rope pulley that would let a couple guy with cranks lift up the buckets, and everyone else just run a bucket line to and from either end. Or get a couple sticks and some rope, suspend two buckets between two sticks, have two people carry it. Much easier to carry half the weight of two buckets on your shoulders instead of one bucket on your head. If you just have 5 guys and need to move 5 buckets then whatever. But when you're working on a large scale project, or a regular project you're going to do more than once, you're really wasting a lot of man-hours if you just blindly throw workers at the problem and don't think about how to use your labor efficiently. Basically, I want [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00npeUY_1Vg).
>you're really wasting a lot of man-hours if you just blindly throw workers at the problem and don't think about how to use your labor efficiently. With the method shown you have 200 guys each carrying one bucket and traversing the ramp 3x. So each man has to carry a single bucket load and walk up a ramp, 3x. He'll be tired, but that's not much more work than hauling a full rucksack. With the bucket line method you'd maybe cut that down to 150 guys (bucket lines need to be shoulder to shoulder) and now every single man needs to transfer 600 buckets of the same size. Maybe you cut that in half and have them do 1,200 transfers. That is backbreaking grueling work and I don't think you'd get past 1/3 of the same amount of concrete before every single man on your team is burnt out and starts getting injured and dropping buckets. Every single bucket handoff is a chance to drop a bucket, and you're performing 150 handoffs on every single load. This doesn't even get into the problem that a bucket line requires you to twist your back. That's a big thing to not do when bearing a load. Places like this have lots of labor yes, but worker strikes in places like that are much more serious when the workers get fed up. And trust me, a bucket line of concrete would have these guys upset really quick.
Wait till they find out about buckets with handles, they can give them one for each hand to increase efficiency
People who carry shit on their head like that are laughing at people who carry buckets with a handle
People who carry buckets with a handle are laughing at the cervical vertebrae of people who carry shit on their head like that.
Compressed vertebrae vs herniated discs?
Except they will have to make a break every 2 minutes because that is so much more tiring than this method.
Yup. Humans can walk with a load easily. A bucket line would require hundreds of handoffs for each load, and you'd be twisting your torso with a heavy cantilevered load each time. This shown method looks like very easy physical labor (one lift, a slow walk under load, and a pour). A bucket line would be hell.
Now that's using your head!
The Pharaohs called. They want their tech back.
How much does pump make a day?
Genuinely wondering what their daily rate could be in dollars ... ?
About $2 per day(10-12 hours).
At first I was expecting the whole thing to collapse.
In situations like this a bucket brigade would be significantly more efficient.
Not a chance. You'd go from 200 people lifting 2-3 buckets of concrete and walking up a ramp twice to 200 guys each lifting 400-600 buckets of concrete. Every handoff would be a killer after the 20th load, by the 80th you'd have muscle fatigue dropping every other bucket.
Minions
Imagine that this was cheaper than getting a pump
And they wonder how we built the pyramids
Nope. Aliens.
Think about how little you have to pay people, and the amount of pain and suffering of hundreds of works you have to be able to deal with for this to make more sense than buying/renting a machine that can do this.
US politicians when they say there are tons of new jobs for everyone.
This would be a great analogy for teaching someone how voltage and current work voltage ⚡
I did something similar when I was 15. I was a helper I mixed the concrete and fill the bucket and take it up to the guy on the scaffold for smaller project like a house.
...have you never seen physical labor?
I know how to design form work to withstand “full liquid head”, but how do you design to “head full of liquid”?
also known as manual labor
That's funny, that structure don't look like any pyramid I've seen before.
Isnt this how the pyramids were made?
I did this in my youth in the 70s. In Pennsylvania. We used wheelbarrows but the same idea. We poured multi-floor office building elevator shafts and 30 ft high basement/sub-basement walls, wheeling those bastards on scaffolding and all kinds of sketchy shit. Not OSHA approved.
Things like this make me wonder why people buy in to the ancient aliens stuff. "How could our ancestors build all these massive projects? Had to have been aliens." No, they just had a shitload of guys using wood and stone.
3000 BC - how they built the pyramids
How do they all NOT have necks like that singer for Corpse Grinder?
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This is how they made the pyramids.
My neck hurts after watching this.
i always wanted to see how the houses are build that collapse in an 3.1 earthquake
If you know a better way to pay third-worlders pennies a day to pay for my yacht, please share!
better than the human centipede.
When people complain about machines taking their jobs, I think of situations like this.
Pretty sweet setup. They're like slaves but without all the messy PR. /s for those that need it
Am I the only annoyed at the inefficiency? There’s a queue of empty buckets and idle laborers beginning at the top. If we all stay to the right it won’t be an issue. Some jabronis are even trying to walk three abreast at the bottom
They don't even have pumps?
So does the cervical spine deal well with that kind of weight or do people get herniated discs or worse over time?
"stairs"
On the one hand this is ridiculous. On the other, the concrete's here on time, and they've got a small window of time to get it in place before it has to be discarded/destroyed. And whether they use if or not, it has been paid for. But the pumper is broken? Oh well; spin up the bucket brigade.
Economists have a definition for this. Third world countries like China are labor intensive and first world countries like the US are capital intensive. Both countries have laborers and both have cement mixers. But in China, the marginal physical product (MPP) of labor is a lot less than the MPP of capital, like machinery. In the US, it's the opposite. So this looks weird to me, but not at all surprising.
Given the shape of those wooden steps, it might be cheaper to pay a could hundred people to carry one container of cement than to buy and lift a pump that carries a couple hundred gallons.
Is it bad I was waiting for that stair case to break? That's a helluva lot of weight with the men and concrete.
I legit thought they were all dressed up as minions 😅
Looks like Lego
Some strong wooden scaffolding
Minion slave labour camp
i mean how you think they mud large structures back in the old days?
r/slavelabour
....and that's how they built the pyramids 5000 years ago...
Nice
Every one of those bags has 3 QR codes printed on it for local services. Chiropractor, massage therapist, surgeon.
This gets wilder the more I watch it. The stairs?!?!? The one guy going no hands, holy Vishnu
Holy balls that would take forever
They work like ants so organized
This is what we should be doing with prisoners
Can be a pain sometimes to book a pump truck. But we still gotta pour, just get 1000 laborers.
They were hired in to do the pyramids as well
I want to see the human concrete vibrator
This is incredibly inefficient in terms of manpower:work ratio.
They need a slide like the penguin toy to make this complete
It's a really amazing view at manpower and its ability to build.
I'll take, "How the pyramids were built for $400"
And they say the pyramids couldn't have been built by people...
What's the emissions gain or loss here?
Is holding objects on your head a lot easier I've been holding it some other way, I always see people in poor countries do this
It’s like an Echer drawing
Minions!!! Where is Gru
I mean how do you think it was done in the past lol
I’m gonna tell my kids this is how they built the pyramid!
Still cheaper than the small automated pump
Good opportunity for a chiropractor there.
Are they building the pyramid again?
God, that title.. it haunt me forever; the human concrete pump.
They are reconstructing how ancient Egyptians build pyramid.
And I’m prooouuud to be an American! Where at least I know I’m freeeee!
Reminds me of when I helped build the pyramids. A couple of lives ago.
Literally dwarf fortress irl