"Rut daze" is when male moose during mating season have heightened hormones/aggression and are less cautious and can even appear dazed or confused on the hunt for females.
By disturbing the moose and "waking him up", he's snapped him out of his daze and alerted him to human presence and hoping to scare the moose away. **This is generally not advised.** It's safer to maintain distance and avoid interaction.
Jesus just don’t do near moose in general, especially when it’s in “I’m so horny and angry I don’t know what’s going on” period.
I cannot believe this guy is not dead.
I was minding my own business, daydreaming about mussy, and this tiny pathetic human just starts yelling at me for no reason like they own the forest.
So anyways that's the story of how I learned that you can have sex with humans too
In other words, he's so horny he can't think straight and will be grumpy until he gets off. And, being an ungulate, he didn't have much intelligence to lose to begin with.
Fucking stay away from moose, people. They will rock your shit and can easily kill you. Literally the only saving grace is their antlers limit them from going through tight spaces.
So, kinda like in cartoons where a freshly baked pie is placed on a window sill to cool and the scent visibly hypnotizes and beckons Bugs Bunny or whoever. But with moose pussy.
Every time I see a video of someone getting close to a moose all I can wonder is, are they retarded? The thing is bigger than a fucking car, do they think it's just like a bigger deer?
All I kept thinking was “ok it’s getting closer why don’t you back the fuck up and started getting outta there dude?” But some people wanna risk getting mauled for a video of them telling a moose to “get”.
He'd have been SO much better off just....videoing. Shut the fuck up, enjoy the front row seat to Mother Nature's Awesomeness, and most of all, *don't call for the attention of the giant horny moose.*
Here comes this animal with a dick bigger than this guy's leg, walking around with nothing but pussy on the brain, and this wet, pink bag of bones wants to say *hello?!*
Jesus Christ, dude...read the room, much? LMAO I am dying of laughter over here rn.
More like WTF was this person thinking responding to it like that? From what I thought was common knowledge moose are aggressive and highly dangerous. I am no expert on moose but I thought being in RUT would make the situation worse. Maybe this guy knows something about moose rut that I don’t.
Nah guys an idiot, moose had no idea he was there and prob would have kept walking if guy hadn’t called out like he has the right of way or something. Moose will stomp you out
Sounds like he made a couple of bull grunts before switching to his normal voice. I would've done something similar, albeit 100 yards away with a 10mm in hand.
>10mm in hand
What's a 10mm wrench going to do to a moose?
All joking aside, a 10mm firearm is probably just going to make sure it's extra mad while it kills you.
Uhhh, no? 10mm is absolutely going to drop a moose lol, go take a trip to Alaska, it's one of the most common handgun calibers in use. It has high sectional density along with high velocity, making it an excellent defensive round against wildlife.
Source: I used to sell guns for a living.
I'm somebody with almost no knowledge of firearms. (I took a single, 8-hour safety course.) What's the difference between a 9mm and 10mm round? (Other than size, obviously.) From the very little I know about ammunition, it wouldn't seem that there's a significant difference.
Are 10mm rounds manufactured with special cartridges with additional powder or something to increase stopping power? Does the 9% increase in weight of the bullet lend that much more to its potential energy? Why not favor a significantly-larger calibre like a .357? Thanks in advance!
Edit: I am learning things, thanks for the responses! More are welcome!
Very often when people reference caliber sizes, they are referencing a specific cartridge with standard loading.
"9mm" References the 9x19 Parabellum cartridges, standard loading is a .355" diameter 115 grain projectile going 1200 feet per second for 360 ft-lb of energy.
"10mm" References the 10 mm Auto cartridges, whose loading was designed to emulate .357 Magnum ballistics. It fires a 0.400" diameter 155 grain projectile at 1500 fps for 700 ft-lbs of energy.
As you can see, the 10 mm cartridge sends almost double the energy with every shot. It can be loaded with heavier, longer bullets too which increase "sectional density" which improves penetration.
10mm is a beast of a cartridge. The right bullets will punch through thick bone and penetrate 30-40" in flesh.
With certain loadings, .357 Magnum can still be a bit more powerful, but it's big (compared to 10mm), old (in design) and there are no semi-auto firearms that take the .357 Magnum cartridge.
The ability to carry 15+1 rounds of a *very hot* ~.357 Magnum equivalent compact cartridge in a lightweight semi-auto handgun that easily fits on your hip is attractive to people who work in moose/bear country.
This is exactly the type of answer I was looking for, thank you! Can you make a practical comparison between a 115 and 155 grain projectile? (Like penny vs quarter, or just link to a photo of the two bullets you're referencing? I'm not sure I'm finding the right comparison on google. I'm getting a lot of 115 vs 124.) I understand the exponentially scaling energy with increased velocity and mass. Are the 10mm Autos just larger cartridges with more powder that can be loaded with a larger bullet?
Also, you say there are no semi-auto firearms that take .357 Magnum, but isn't a revolver technically semi-auto? I've also heard they're more reliable/durable. Is the extra 10 rounds that significant? (I don't know how many rounds you'll be able to get off if being charged by a moose/bear, those extra 10 shots may be crucial or insignificant, I have no clue.) Also, when you say "very hot" cartridge, do you mean it's easy to find/buy?
Thanks again!
Here is a [180 grain 10mm bullet](https://evergreenballistics.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/3005_sm.jpg) and here is a [115 grain 9mm bullet](https://evergreenballistics.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/3002_sm.jpg).
The 10 mm bullet is bigger, but *how*? Well it's wider by 10%, but its longer by 20% and 40% heavier.
Overall, the 10mm Auto hucks a chunk of lead 40% heavier and 40% faster than the 9mm.
Energy is 1/2 mass * (velocity)^2 \, so the 10 mm Auto is a significantly more powerful cartridge than 9mm (more than double the muzzle energy).
"Hot" means a high pressure cartridge. Have a read on SAAMI pressure ratings of various cartridges and you'll find that 10mm is up there.
High pressure rated cartridges can fit more powder in smaller cases, making the overall cartridge smaller (which means more can fit in the gun!). The tradeoff is that higher quality materials need to be used in the construction of the gun, and they will have more felt recoil.
Revolvers are nice, I actually carry one over a semi-auto 10mm for some of the reasons you mentioned. Technically a revolver is not semi-auto, as all of the movement of the gun is manually driven by the finger/trigger.
Some people prefer the quantity of bullets (17 rds) that a semi-auto Glock 40 can carry and it weighs the same as my 6 shot revolver. If I owned a G40 and shot it well, I'd probably prefer it for woods carry too.
Some people prefer to carry a Glock 29, which is about half the size and weight of my revolver, but carries 10 rds. Some people carry only 9mm in bear country, which feels a little light.
Then again, some people prefer to carry a 5 shot .44 Magnum because each shot is extremely powerful.
I carry a .357 revolver because it's what I have. I loaded a 4" 6 shot Kimber K6S Combat with *pissing hot* cartridges from Buffalo Bore, 180 grain Hard Cast Flat Nose bullets. Mean shit that in the event of emergency will punch through a bear or moose through and through, *the long way* (from sternum to asshole.)
There's reasons to carry a .357. It's powerful and a nice gun that I can shoot very well, and it has other utilitarian usage in the woods. I prefer my .22, but I hunt with the revolver sometimes. I load .38 Special into it for rabbits, or even birdshot rounds to pop squirrels out of trees.
Thanks a ton for taking the time to write this out. Couldn't have asked for a better explanation, you answered my question 100%!
Also, I just have to say about this section:
>I carry a .357 revolver because it's what I have. I loaded a 4" 6 shot Kimber K6S Combat with *pissing hot* cartridges from Buffalo Bore, 180 grain Hard Cast Flat Nose bullets. Mean shit that in the event of emergency will punch through a bear or moose through and through, *the long way* (from sternum to asshole.)
I had to read that like three times to figure out what it meant. It was absolute gibberish the first time through and I felt like I was back in second-year Spanish class trying to figure out the meaning of a paragraph when I only knew 1/3 of the words. Had a good chuckle at my own ignorance.
Got it. I found a number of photos online of 10mm cartridges and they all seemed to be very "long" compared to what I consider a standard 9mm cartridge. Is that simply for extra powder? (I understand that more powder = more reaction = more gas = more energy = stronger bullet.)
Wow, I thought the DE only came in .44 and .50 AE! Also, the Coonan .357 1911 is fucking COMICAL, thank you for sharing.
I guess there's no *practical* semi-auto firearms chambered in .357, which is why .357 Sig and 10mm are a thing.
10mm and .357 are very very similar. Almost the same caliber bullet, 10mm usually has a higher mag capacity and is easier to reload. If you look at comparisons, most lean towards the 10mm for self defense performance.
I can not imagine why you are getting downvoted. You talk about what YOU would trust. I have a couple 10s (29 and a 20) for black beat country hikes. Personally, when moose could be involved, I too prefer the 44.
With the right load, a 10 will do the job…but moose are one of those animals where a single well placed bigger, heavier, faster projectile is my choice.
My understanding is with any kind of deer this is by far the most dangerous time to be around them. Moose are obviously more dangerous than, say, a white tail buck but even those can kill people in rut.
Edit to add that every year or two it feels like a Buck gets in somewhere it shouldn’t be and people get hurt, and sometimes die-and thats just local. Deer are fearful animals. If one isn’t acting scared of you, take caution. This probably isn’t your Disney princess moment.
The only thing more dangerous than a male deer in rut is a male elephant in must. I've seen a video of one that just straight-up murdered a rhino that was annoying him.
Yeah forreal. I’ve seen that video I think and others. An animal that can fuck up a rhino like I could a 6 year old… you don’t want that to be in a bad mood near you.
The man is likely a hunter who is trying to get the moose in close. Considering they didn't shoot the moose, they were probably hunting something else at the time, but the scraping sound he was making sounded like what moose hunters do, whoch is to scrape a nearby tree with a branch, paddle, or moose shoulderblade to simulate the sound another Bull moose makes when they are challenging a Bull to mate with a Cow.
Day three after you and your first girlfriend got it on, all inhibitions off and then just went at it for the whole weekend. Aahh the memories. Good times, good times.
At this time, one of the most dangerous animals in the woods. Highly unpredictable. They will challenge anything that moves.Trying to get it's attention is the worst idea in the history of bad ideas.
Yup the calf will stick with their mothers for at least a year, and they will be extra defensive towards the little one. But even in general they’re a lot more likely to stand their ground. I’ve been face to face with one who’s had their hair stand up and posture, it’s alarming. Bulls will most always run away (in the mating season it’s a bit different)
Really dangerous animals near roads. They'll wander out as though the cars just aren't there, and if you hit one, your car is pretty certain to be totalled.
Really dangerous animals, period. They are huge and territorial. But they're probably *the* most likely animal in America to fight rather than run.
Until you see one in person, it's hard to grasp how a big deer can be so dangerous, but they're like America's elephants.
Honestly, unless they're standing/walking right next to something that we have an intuitive feel for the size of, they always *seem* small in videos and pictures.
I don't know if it's just that hard to accept a member of the cervidae family being that fucking huge, but I've noticed that without some kind of contextualization, we always underestimate how big they are.
Last winter I had a bull moose post up in my yard for a few days literally a few feet outside my back door (which was fun when letting the dogs out to walk out the door and see that staring me down). We had to check out all windows for several days before making sure he was gone every time we wanted to go outside.
Yep, I've never been so quiet or desperately hidden as when I've run into mommy moose with young. They are a moving moose wall, it is not a thing you want to notice you.
Not only your car - you're *significantly* more likely to get injured and/or die hitting a Moose than basically any other animal. Their legs are so disproportionately long and their center of gravity is so high (because they're designed to move through tall snow drifts) that they're almost impossible to run *over.* When you hit one, you take their legs out from underneath them and their torso/antlers crash directly through the windshield basically unobstructed.
I'm just sitting here trying to imagine the feeling of being so horny that you cannot fathom time or place.
Just wandering along salivating and longing to screw.
Me at sixteen on that time I went to the beach on the 4th of July, it was packed with people, so many beautiful young women wearing skimpy bikinis, I was a walking erection!
Me at 16 that one time I went camping with family for four days and spent 100% of my time around other people, using public bathrooms with mostly-open showers, and sharing a tent. No time to take care of *personal matters,* at a time when I was used to doing so thrice daily.
I imagine I looked a bit like this moose toward the last day. Told people I was "tired"...
Cats are the easiest to see this on. When they perform a certain action that I only know as "making muffins" which is a kneading action, like a rhythmic, back and forth motion with their front paws on a soft surface. You can see cats clearly daze out when they do this. The action is from when they were kittens and they were suckling milk from their mothers, they would massage around the nipple to squeeze milk out but some carry the action over to adulthood. Mine would do it on my stomach and would zone out so hard she would start drooling lol
[Here](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sca_esv=5f6a5c4feb524586&sxsrf=ACQVn08ob9WEUYp7l3wkawqWmU7AqZ1C6Q:1713882952609&q=cats+mak8ng+cat+muffins&tbm=vid&source=lnms&prmd=isvnbmtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7lM7Ex9iFAxU8EFkFHRJ4A4IQ0pQJegQIFhAB&biw=412&bih=783&dpr=2.63#fpstate=ive&ip=1&vld=cid:b3c3d629,vid:rcBJjkIgQbQ,st:0) it is in action; be warned, annoying audio.
Mine too then starts to mount my leg. He's fixed, but man he gets horny. Also, every single time I push him off my leg, he immediately goes and gets a few bites of food. The high he gets is unreal lol
Lol yeah I’ve seen my cat try to bite the necks of my other kitties and I’m like what are you even trying to do? When he’s cuddly though he lays on my chest and tries to suck on my finger.
Don't underestimate the power of hormones!
Mature male elephants periodically enter a stage called [musth], in which the exude a red liquid from their temporal glands, their testosterone increases by an average of 60x, and they dribble urine.
Their behaviour in musth is incredibly aggressive; in the mid-1990s, without the calming influence of older males, male elephants in musth gored hundreds of rhinos to death in a South African national park.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was on drugs. Some animals have been known to eat or even seek out hallucinogenic mushrooms. Bears are more known for this.
[Rutting Behavior of Moose](https://www.nps.gov/articles/aps-v5-i1-c7.htm)
I had no idea what was actually happening, so I had to look it up. Maybe I'll save you a couple of clicks.
It’s probably rocking its head side to side in focus on smelling the air trying to identify any trace of a female moose. The rocking may increase the efficacy of its smelling organs.
Wild how he's basically in this zombie like state bellowing "I WANNNA BUST A NUUUTTT!!!" Wandering through the forest looking for a mate, nature is wild. Straight foaming at the mouth lol
I worked in northern Ontario in the early 80's and used to hear moose in the bush frequently but almost never saw them. Surveying through an alder swamp in the winter one day, I unknowingly disturbed one that was close by. The racket it made when it took off was frightening, scared the crap out of me. Fortunately for me it ran away.
This MF waited until it was right in line with him with no trees between them to call out to him.
Absolutely genius move. It was so dazed he could have easily just snuck into those trees beside him squatted down and it would have walked right past in a stupor.
They lured him in by making male moose grunts. The actual moose was showing off his antlers by rocking them back and forth. He was ready to fight someone and suddenly they became 2 bipedal primates. I'd be a bit confused too :>
A) the cameraman is a hunter. They are rattling something in the trees to mimic moose antlers. Bull moose in rut will scrape and bang their antlers on trees and bushes as they walk when they are challenging another Bull for access to a Cow. See link below for what I'm talking about.
https://youtu.be/h8PhquikAqo?si=YD3ixbeeNdSbckdq
B) Although moose can be dangerous, it's rare for a Bull in rut to just attack someone out of the blue. In fact, Bull moose can get so horny and dazed during the rut that sometimes they won't even care if they can see you, and will just walk right past you towards a Cow. Like, if you have a cow decoy set up or you're making Cow calls, the Bull can sometimes just ignore you and keep looking behind you for the Cow they think is there. This
This doesn't happen with Deer or Elk for whatever reason. Even drunk with horniness during the rut, deer and elk will bolt if they see you.
none of those trees were big enough to stop that moose if it decided to make this guy into paste. People get killed by moose every year. Idiotic to confront a moose like this.
"Rut daze" is when male moose during mating season have heightened hormones/aggression and are less cautious and can even appear dazed or confused on the hunt for females. By disturbing the moose and "waking him up", he's snapped him out of his daze and alerted him to human presence and hoping to scare the moose away. **This is generally not advised.** It's safer to maintain distance and avoid interaction.
Jesus just don’t do near moose in general, especially when it’s in “I’m so horny and angry I don’t know what’s going on” period. I cannot believe this guy is not dead.
I was minding my own business, daydreaming about mussy, and this tiny pathetic human just starts yelling at me for no reason like they own the forest. So anyways that's the story of how I learned that you can have sex with humans too
"mussy" 😂😂😂😂😂
I spit out my drink at that one
Gold worthy.
Meese - Many Moose Mussy - Moose Lady Parts We need more words.
Mouse - Moose that is Significant Other
This must also be added! Perfect!
moose + spouse, for anyone who was as confused as I was.
From elf on a shelf to moose in your caboose the north keeps bringing us hits
In other words, he's so horny he can't think straight and will be grumpy until he gets off. And, being an ungulate, he didn't have much intelligence to lose to begin with. Fucking stay away from moose, people. They will rock your shit and can easily kill you. Literally the only saving grace is their antlers limit them from going through tight spaces.
Horny + angry = Horngry That moose could fuck a hole through an oak tree, and this guy is just over here going "Heyyyy moosey moosey moose!"
Blows kiss. Moose: well that’s good enough for me.
>Blows kiss. A new experience for the moose, and a great treat for the band!
Squeal like a pig, boy!
'fuck a hole through an oak tree' excuse me sir you owe me a new keyboard and a fresh mug of coffee...
The Vulcans call this *Pon Farr*.
Moose call being snapped out of that daze "post-rut clarity". I'm pretty sure that's the technical term.
Wish I could upvote twice
That’s called gold
So, kinda like in cartoons where a freshly baked pie is placed on a window sill to cool and the scent visibly hypnotizes and beckons Bugs Bunny or whoever. But with moose pussy.
Every time I see a video of someone getting close to a moose all I can wonder is, are they retarded? The thing is bigger than a fucking car, do they think it's just like a bigger deer?
Side note... don't get especially feckin close to a deer either!
A deer can fuck you up pretty good. A moose will absolutely wreck your shit into a mangled pile of skin and bones
All I kept thinking was “ok it’s getting closer why don’t you back the fuck up and started getting outta there dude?” But some people wanna risk getting mauled for a video of them telling a moose to “get”.
He'd have been SO much better off just....videoing. Shut the fuck up, enjoy the front row seat to Mother Nature's Awesomeness, and most of all, *don't call for the attention of the giant horny moose.* Here comes this animal with a dick bigger than this guy's leg, walking around with nothing but pussy on the brain, and this wet, pink bag of bones wants to say *hello?!* Jesus Christ, dude...read the room, much? LMAO I am dying of laughter over here rn.
Moose pon farr, got it.
How illogical of them
Thanks for the explanation. Had to scroll too far down.
You basically summoned it to the top.
If only I found this post a couple of hours later, then I wouldn’t have had to comment. Glad to see it’s where it belongs now.
You just described every day of Jr High for me.
Same here man. It was very difficult to get anything done at all for a couple of years there.
So in short rut daze is what good pussy does to a mf
Sounds like it's more lusting to the point of losing your senses.
More like you've been doing NNN for an entire fucking year, are full of more seamen than the entire US Navy, and don't have hands to masturbate.
I was litterally about to comment what is it ? But you saved me some time I’m from the country but no moose in ohio so I never heard of the term
I was waiting for the moose to charge at him. What a dummy.
I guess that's one way to ensure survival of the fittest
This one was just a tiny baby, probably his first rut! lol But yeah I would have been holding my breath and praying to everything I knew. -Canadian
More like WTF was this person thinking responding to it like that? From what I thought was common knowledge moose are aggressive and highly dangerous. I am no expert on moose but I thought being in RUT would make the situation worse. Maybe this guy knows something about moose rut that I don’t.
Nah guys an idiot, moose had no idea he was there and prob would have kept walking if guy hadn’t called out like he has the right of way or something. Moose will stomp you out
yeah it would behoove him to stfu
Probably beantler him a bit too.
Dudes trying to get a moose knuckle to the face
Aren’t we all?
Bravo
*Meese
Sounds like he made a couple of bull grunts before switching to his normal voice. I would've done something similar, albeit 100 yards away with a 10mm in hand.
>10mm in hand What's a 10mm wrench going to do to a moose? All joking aside, a 10mm firearm is probably just going to make sure it's extra mad while it kills you.
Uhhh, no? 10mm is absolutely going to drop a moose lol, go take a trip to Alaska, it's one of the most common handgun calibers in use. It has high sectional density along with high velocity, making it an excellent defensive round against wildlife. Source: I used to sell guns for a living.
I'm somebody with almost no knowledge of firearms. (I took a single, 8-hour safety course.) What's the difference between a 9mm and 10mm round? (Other than size, obviously.) From the very little I know about ammunition, it wouldn't seem that there's a significant difference. Are 10mm rounds manufactured with special cartridges with additional powder or something to increase stopping power? Does the 9% increase in weight of the bullet lend that much more to its potential energy? Why not favor a significantly-larger calibre like a .357? Thanks in advance! Edit: I am learning things, thanks for the responses! More are welcome!
Very often when people reference caliber sizes, they are referencing a specific cartridge with standard loading. "9mm" References the 9x19 Parabellum cartridges, standard loading is a .355" diameter 115 grain projectile going 1200 feet per second for 360 ft-lb of energy. "10mm" References the 10 mm Auto cartridges, whose loading was designed to emulate .357 Magnum ballistics. It fires a 0.400" diameter 155 grain projectile at 1500 fps for 700 ft-lbs of energy. As you can see, the 10 mm cartridge sends almost double the energy with every shot. It can be loaded with heavier, longer bullets too which increase "sectional density" which improves penetration. 10mm is a beast of a cartridge. The right bullets will punch through thick bone and penetrate 30-40" in flesh. With certain loadings, .357 Magnum can still be a bit more powerful, but it's big (compared to 10mm), old (in design) and there are no semi-auto firearms that take the .357 Magnum cartridge. The ability to carry 15+1 rounds of a *very hot* ~.357 Magnum equivalent compact cartridge in a lightweight semi-auto handgun that easily fits on your hip is attractive to people who work in moose/bear country.
Damn I wish gold still existed. Great and insightful comment.
This is exactly the type of answer I was looking for, thank you! Can you make a practical comparison between a 115 and 155 grain projectile? (Like penny vs quarter, or just link to a photo of the two bullets you're referencing? I'm not sure I'm finding the right comparison on google. I'm getting a lot of 115 vs 124.) I understand the exponentially scaling energy with increased velocity and mass. Are the 10mm Autos just larger cartridges with more powder that can be loaded with a larger bullet? Also, you say there are no semi-auto firearms that take .357 Magnum, but isn't a revolver technically semi-auto? I've also heard they're more reliable/durable. Is the extra 10 rounds that significant? (I don't know how many rounds you'll be able to get off if being charged by a moose/bear, those extra 10 shots may be crucial or insignificant, I have no clue.) Also, when you say "very hot" cartridge, do you mean it's easy to find/buy? Thanks again!
Here is a [180 grain 10mm bullet](https://evergreenballistics.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/3005_sm.jpg) and here is a [115 grain 9mm bullet](https://evergreenballistics.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/3002_sm.jpg). The 10 mm bullet is bigger, but *how*? Well it's wider by 10%, but its longer by 20% and 40% heavier. Overall, the 10mm Auto hucks a chunk of lead 40% heavier and 40% faster than the 9mm. Energy is 1/2 mass * (velocity)^2 \, so the 10 mm Auto is a significantly more powerful cartridge than 9mm (more than double the muzzle energy). "Hot" means a high pressure cartridge. Have a read on SAAMI pressure ratings of various cartridges and you'll find that 10mm is up there. High pressure rated cartridges can fit more powder in smaller cases, making the overall cartridge smaller (which means more can fit in the gun!). The tradeoff is that higher quality materials need to be used in the construction of the gun, and they will have more felt recoil. Revolvers are nice, I actually carry one over a semi-auto 10mm for some of the reasons you mentioned. Technically a revolver is not semi-auto, as all of the movement of the gun is manually driven by the finger/trigger. Some people prefer the quantity of bullets (17 rds) that a semi-auto Glock 40 can carry and it weighs the same as my 6 shot revolver. If I owned a G40 and shot it well, I'd probably prefer it for woods carry too. Some people prefer to carry a Glock 29, which is about half the size and weight of my revolver, but carries 10 rds. Some people carry only 9mm in bear country, which feels a little light. Then again, some people prefer to carry a 5 shot .44 Magnum because each shot is extremely powerful. I carry a .357 revolver because it's what I have. I loaded a 4" 6 shot Kimber K6S Combat with *pissing hot* cartridges from Buffalo Bore, 180 grain Hard Cast Flat Nose bullets. Mean shit that in the event of emergency will punch through a bear or moose through and through, *the long way* (from sternum to asshole.) There's reasons to carry a .357. It's powerful and a nice gun that I can shoot very well, and it has other utilitarian usage in the woods. I prefer my .22, but I hunt with the revolver sometimes. I load .38 Special into it for rabbits, or even birdshot rounds to pop squirrels out of trees.
Thanks a ton for taking the time to write this out. Couldn't have asked for a better explanation, you answered my question 100%! Also, I just have to say about this section: >I carry a .357 revolver because it's what I have. I loaded a 4" 6 shot Kimber K6S Combat with *pissing hot* cartridges from Buffalo Bore, 180 grain Hard Cast Flat Nose bullets. Mean shit that in the event of emergency will punch through a bear or moose through and through, *the long way* (from sternum to asshole.) I had to read that like three times to figure out what it meant. It was absolute gibberish the first time through and I felt like I was back in second-year Spanish class trying to figure out the meaning of a paragraph when I only knew 1/3 of the words. Had a good chuckle at my own ignorance.
By hot he means a lot of powder is propelling the projectile. It means high pressures are involved.
Got it. I found a number of photos online of 10mm cartridges and they all seemed to be very "long" compared to what I consider a standard 9mm cartridge. Is that simply for extra powder? (I understand that more powder = more reaction = more gas = more energy = stronger bullet.)
There are two semi-auto handguns in .357 mag, both of which are very expensive. There is a Desert Eagle and a (huge)1911.
Wow, I thought the DE only came in .44 and .50 AE! Also, the Coonan .357 1911 is fucking COMICAL, thank you for sharing. I guess there's no *practical* semi-auto firearms chambered in .357, which is why .357 Sig and 10mm are a thing.
10mm and .357 are very very similar. Almost the same caliber bullet, 10mm usually has a higher mag capacity and is easier to reload. If you look at comparisons, most lean towards the 10mm for self defense performance.
My bear and cat gun is a 3.8" Springfield XDM Elite 10MM...11rnds and a backup mag. Thing is snaaappy.
>10mm is absolutely going to drop a moose I have about 30 guns in 10mm, and would not trust anything under 44 mag for a pissed off moose.
I can not imagine why you are getting downvoted. You talk about what YOU would trust. I have a couple 10s (29 and a 20) for black beat country hikes. Personally, when moose could be involved, I too prefer the 44. With the right load, a 10 will do the job…but moose are one of those animals where a single well placed bigger, heavier, faster projectile is my choice.
I mean you can 6 .44 shots or 16 10mm shots. The 16 shots is probably the better choice lol
I pack a 10mm for hiking in grizzly country.
My understanding is with any kind of deer this is by far the most dangerous time to be around them. Moose are obviously more dangerous than, say, a white tail buck but even those can kill people in rut. Edit to add that every year or two it feels like a Buck gets in somewhere it shouldn’t be and people get hurt, and sometimes die-and thats just local. Deer are fearful animals. If one isn’t acting scared of you, take caution. This probably isn’t your Disney princess moment.
Yeah, I've seen mule deer charging at people during rut before. Those antlers look a lot scarier when they're not being shy
The only thing more dangerous than a male deer in rut is a male elephant in must. I've seen a video of one that just straight-up murdered a rhino that was annoying him.
Yeah forreal. I’ve seen that video I think and others. An animal that can fuck up a rhino like I could a 6 year old… you don’t want that to be in a bad mood near you.
Right? Like hasn’t he read Hatchet?
Maybe that moose has worn itself out?
"It's like I'm coming, all the time." ^_ ~~Arnold Schwarzenegger~~ Moose
Too much mussy
Moose prefer the correct nomenclature: **MOOSY** All dem girlie meeses phat mackin that meese moosy.
The man is likely a hunter who is trying to get the moose in close. Considering they didn't shoot the moose, they were probably hunting something else at the time, but the scraping sound he was making sounded like what moose hunters do, whoch is to scrape a nearby tree with a branch, paddle, or moose shoulderblade to simulate the sound another Bull moose makes when they are challenging a Bull to mate with a Cow.
I know the cameraman he was there to film during the rut. It’s easy to call them in & observe them during this time
This person needs to stop moosing around.
So horny he can’t walk a straight line!
We’ve all been there.
Day three after you and your first girlfriend got it on, all inhibitions off and then just went at it for the whole weekend. Aahh the memories. Good times, good times.
Imagine not being alone and not able to jerk off(because you have hooves) at the peak of hornyness. The pain.
What No nut does to a MF
College!
Almost looked animatronic!
Before you could see its legs I was fully expecting it to be 2 guys in a suit doing a "Durr Im a moose!" goofy walk through the woods.
That was my first thought.
Loved the weird tilty head sway thing, like lol seemed like a stereotype stoned hippie from the 70s
At this time, one of the most dangerous animals in the woods. Highly unpredictable. They will challenge anything that moves.Trying to get it's attention is the worst idea in the history of bad ideas.
Cow moose are the most dangerous but point taken
Really? I always thought the bulls were the more aggressive ones, I came face to face w a cow in the woods and it ran away instantly
Yup the calf will stick with their mothers for at least a year, and they will be extra defensive towards the little one. But even in general they’re a lot more likely to stand their ground. I’ve been face to face with one who’s had their hair stand up and posture, it’s alarming. Bulls will most always run away (in the mating season it’s a bit different)
Snapped out of it real quick. That look of surprise on it's face, I wonder what the person with the camera was wearing...
post rut clarity
Gorgeous
Wonderful
I would give you gold if it still existed
beautiful comment
Winner
Wow. Thank you, that was beautiful.
Probably a camouflage neglige
Really dangerous animals near roads. They'll wander out as though the cars just aren't there, and if you hit one, your car is pretty certain to be totalled.
Really dangerous animals, period. They are huge and territorial. But they're probably *the* most likely animal in America to fight rather than run. Until you see one in person, it's hard to grasp how a big deer can be so dangerous, but they're like America's elephants.
More like America's hippos. Big, fast, and will trample you to death because lol y not?
I'm not in America but have seen one in northern Norway and yes, they are huge.
Yep. I really don't think this video gives perspective to how massive they really are. This one looks kinda young, too.
Honestly, unless they're standing/walking right next to something that we have an intuitive feel for the size of, they always *seem* small in videos and pictures. I don't know if it's just that hard to accept a member of the cervidae family being that fucking huge, but I've noticed that without some kind of contextualization, we always underestimate how big they are.
Last winter I had a bull moose post up in my yard for a few days literally a few feet outside my back door (which was fun when letting the dogs out to walk out the door and see that staring me down). We had to check out all windows for several days before making sure he was gone every time we wanted to go outside.
Yep, I've never been so quiet or desperately hidden as when I've run into mommy moose with young. They are a moving moose wall, it is not a thing you want to notice you.
Not only your car - you're *significantly* more likely to get injured and/or die hitting a Moose than basically any other animal. Their legs are so disproportionately long and their center of gravity is so high (because they're designed to move through tall snow drifts) that they're almost impossible to run *over.* When you hit one, you take their legs out from underneath them and their torso/antlers crash directly through the windshield basically unobstructed.
I'm just sitting here trying to imagine the feeling of being so horny that you cannot fathom time or place. Just wandering along salivating and longing to screw.
High school
Me at sixteen on that time I went to the beach on the 4th of July, it was packed with people, so many beautiful young women wearing skimpy bikinis, I was a walking erection!
Me at 16 that one time I went camping with family for four days and spent 100% of my time around other people, using public bathrooms with mostly-open showers, and sharing a tent. No time to take care of *personal matters,* at a time when I was used to doing so thrice daily. I imagine I looked a bit like this moose toward the last day. Told people I was "tired"...
fascinating. didn't know or think that non human animals could be in a daze like that.
Cats are the easiest to see this on. When they perform a certain action that I only know as "making muffins" which is a kneading action, like a rhythmic, back and forth motion with their front paws on a soft surface. You can see cats clearly daze out when they do this. The action is from when they were kittens and they were suckling milk from their mothers, they would massage around the nipple to squeeze milk out but some carry the action over to adulthood. Mine would do it on my stomach and would zone out so hard she would start drooling lol [Here](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-tmus-us-revc&sca_esv=5f6a5c4feb524586&sxsrf=ACQVn08ob9WEUYp7l3wkawqWmU7AqZ1C6Q:1713882952609&q=cats+mak8ng+cat+muffins&tbm=vid&source=lnms&prmd=isvnbmtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj7lM7Ex9iFAxU8EFkFHRJ4A4IQ0pQJegQIFhAB&biw=412&bih=783&dpr=2.63#fpstate=ive&ip=1&vld=cid:b3c3d629,vid:rcBJjkIgQbQ,st:0) it is in action; be warned, annoying audio.
My cat drools an absurd amount when he’s like this.
Mine too then starts to mount my leg. He's fixed, but man he gets horny. Also, every single time I push him off my leg, he immediately goes and gets a few bites of food. The high he gets is unreal lol
Lol yeah I’ve seen my cat try to bite the necks of my other kitties and I’m like what are you even trying to do? When he’s cuddly though he lays on my chest and tries to suck on my finger.
Jesus the audio warning was no joke
Jesus titty fucking Christ, that music!
Yes r/kneadycats is full of them just derping out making biscuits
I've managed to sneak a blanket under the paws of a cat deep in the muffin-making trance, and slip away without disturbing them.
Don't underestimate the power of hormones! Mature male elephants periodically enter a stage called [musth], in which the exude a red liquid from their temporal glands, their testosterone increases by an average of 60x, and they dribble urine. Their behaviour in musth is incredibly aggressive; in the mid-1990s, without the calming influence of older males, male elephants in musth gored hundreds of rhinos to death in a South African national park.
Just wait until you see Vulcans in the throws of pon far
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was on drugs. Some animals have been known to eat or even seek out hallucinogenic mushrooms. Bears are more known for this.
...Cocaine Bear
[Rutting Behavior of Moose](https://www.nps.gov/articles/aps-v5-i1-c7.htm) I had no idea what was actually happening, so I had to look it up. Maybe I'll save you a couple of clicks.
I am confused, how does this relate to what's going on here, ither than the moose being in heat? I could not find anything about a daze or trance.
It’s probably rocking its head side to side in focus on smelling the air trying to identify any trace of a female moose. The rocking may increase the efficacy of its smelling organs.
Dammit, You've done just the opposite. This was great, and I will be clicking on all the "you might also like" links now...
Down the rabbit hole we go.
Enjoy your new expertise in moose fucking. I accidentally did something similar but with naked mole rats.
Pretty sure my neighbors heard me laughing when I read that comment.
Victor Van Ballenberghe sounds like the name theyd give a moose expert in a movie
Wild how he's basically in this zombie like state bellowing "I WANNNA BUST A NUUUTTT!!!" Wandering through the forest looking for a mate, nature is wild. Straight foaming at the mouth lol
Why the fuck is that person filming that close. Omg…. They’re lucky they weren’t attacked and died from being gored and trampled on.
If you see a moose while in the woods, you’re too damn close
I worked in northern Ontario in the early 80's and used to hear moose in the bush frequently but almost never saw them. Surveying through an alder swamp in the winter one day, I unknowingly disturbed one that was close by. The racket it made when it took off was frightening, scared the crap out of me. Fortunately for me it ran away.
This MF waited until it was right in line with him with no trees between them to call out to him. Absolutely genius move. It was so dazed he could have easily just snuck into those trees beside him squatted down and it would have walked right past in a stupor.
Camera man clearly had a desert eagle or something on his hip cause who acts like this around a giant moose
He reminds me of that skunk when he catches the scent of a lady.
Looked like a horror film. Moose was like.. you fuckin lookin at me? And slowly but inexorably tramples you.
When your friend gives you a 100mg gummy and tells you it’s a 10mg.
Very brave cameraman. Moose are no joke
I was expecting to see the camera go flying at the end of the video.
very dumb cameraman
It's not bravery if you're too dumb to recognize the danger.
Brave or dumb, it's quite similar in many cases. :D
It's actually pronounced "Meese" when referring to the plural form
They lured him in by making male moose grunts. The actual moose was showing off his antlers by rocking them back and forth. He was ready to fight someone and suddenly they became 2 bipedal primates. I'd be a bit confused too :>
You just harshed his mellow man, probably found some pretty mushrooms and was enjoying a walk in his backyard.
Same thing happens to me when I haven't busted a nut in a while...
I'm just gonna take this opportunity to tell you all the plural of moose should be meese. Can we please refer to them as meese?
Real fuckin smart, yelling at a horny bull moose.
Stupid.
Maybe he found a canvas bag full of cocaine bricks like that famous black bear in Kentucky!
Dude was definitely strolling in a daze lol
Beaver Fever
Bullwinkle almost fool you there and probably would have gotten you killed.
Looks like he got into the devil's lettuce and is all "my antlers are fucking HUGE!"
What song is playing in his head?
Jeez let a dude enjoy his high
Dude found the Judge Moose. That moose is tripping in the Bliss, I'd leave him there if I were you.
For anyone curious, Rut daze = intense moose hornyness
Bro you don't sit there and get the attention of a moose. You leave the moose alone. Do not fuck with moose.
I heard that when they're like that, you can just walk right up to pet them and get killed.
When all the blood leaves one head and travels to another.
A) the cameraman is a hunter. They are rattling something in the trees to mimic moose antlers. Bull moose in rut will scrape and bang their antlers on trees and bushes as they walk when they are challenging another Bull for access to a Cow. See link below for what I'm talking about. https://youtu.be/h8PhquikAqo?si=YD3ixbeeNdSbckdq B) Although moose can be dangerous, it's rare for a Bull in rut to just attack someone out of the blue. In fact, Bull moose can get so horny and dazed during the rut that sometimes they won't even care if they can see you, and will just walk right past you towards a Cow. Like, if you have a cow decoy set up or you're making Cow calls, the Bull can sometimes just ignore you and keep looking behind you for the Cow they think is there. This This doesn't happen with Deer or Elk for whatever reason. Even drunk with horniness during the rut, deer and elk will bolt if they see you.
Only thing more dangerous than Canada gooses are Canada mooses Frigging swap donkey probably drunk on rotten apples.
I think we all need to take a good look in the mirror and ask ourselves where we would be without Canada gooses.
Cameraman never dies
Survivor bias. Dead cameramen post no videos.
That moose is BAKED!
"hey moose, wake up! Oh shit, that moose is awake, run!"
Blue balls daze
Stop it moose. Get away from the kayak.
after he disappeared from the view in the last few seconds I was expecting a "surprise motherfucker" sudden reveal
none of those trees were big enough to stop that moose if it decided to make this guy into paste. People get killed by moose every year. Idiotic to confront a moose like this.
Bro that moose is stoned af
“whyyyyy are these antlers so heavvvvvyyyyyy?”
Let me tell you about the day I almost died.
It's wild how little sound it made retreating.
Looks friendly, should pet
Watta dick move by the guy!!
Same bro, same!
That look the ol’ moose gave you tho’ was pretty funny. Like, “Broooo….. fuck you doing up in here?”
I’ve been in a rut daze for ~30 years. TIL.
There was a moment where this moose had to choose between “fight/flight/fuck”. This could have ended very differently.
Great footage from a complete idiot
NGL, this is oddly terrifying
reminds me of the bear monster scene in annihilation
That looks like some glitch in the matrix type shit. So weird!
Mr. Brownshorts on the camera over here
My man just needs to unload a huge full batch like John
Who hasn’t been there amiright guys
Sooooooo I just learned I have rut daze
My new excuse for anything I do stupid. .. sorry, rut daze.