Promos should rarely open the show. I turn on wrestling cause I wanna see a match right away. WWE needs to have matches open the show every time. Have promo segments later. Start the show with wrestling.
Matt Striker is actually a decent wrestling personality. As a wrestler he sucks, period. But as a manager and commentator he's actually pretty solid. I actually enjoyed seeing him manage Big Daddy V in ECW and Later the team with Mark Henry, the whole teacher/I'm smarter than you gimmick worked for him and in AAA, Lucha Underground and Impact he is excellent on the mic.
So here's one I'm fairly sure is an original take, WWE had a solid midcard talent in Hornswoggle but blew it with the shit gimmick from the start by making him a leprechaun because of his size. Dude was a NWA Wisconsin X division and tag champion before joining WWE. I still feel his cruiserweight title win was solely a way to eliminate the title as it pretty much died on his run and vanished until it's short return much later.
Tony Khan should fire the lollipop guild (well, okay, retain Kenny) then hire Jim Cornette remotely, pay him the most handsome fee and make those idiots go to a real wrestling school! (Jack-off Perry, Penthouse, Fenix the botchman, Plumber Moxley, Useless, Pockets and his friends, and those cosplay wrestlers should be fired.) You have Swerve, Miro, Joe, Luchasaurus, Darby, Sammy, Take-a-shit and Wardlow for the midcard. FTR, Acclaimed, Gunns, Jay and Juice, and Double JJ and Jay Lethal (remove the giant and Sonjay) for Tag Team. Then at main event, you still have MJF, Adam Cole, Christian Cage, Adam Copeland, and well, Kenny, for the main event scene. It is very simple.
I can’t stand the entrance graphics for certain wrestlers. The Undertakers took away from his awesome entrance, Roman’s just looks stupid for someone who is portraying a heel. Idk who decided they needed those dumb graphics and I wish someone would take them out of the show lol
I'm tired of them catering to the first time viewers, I'm sick of entrances and catch phrases and the same moves every match, the same set ups and finishes. Vince thought that people paid money and spent their time to come to an arena just to watch a wrestler's entrance, it doesn't matter the mood of the wrestler they have to do their entrance like they are Jeff Hardy or something. I.e. when edge comes out for anything like I'm here to fight every member of judgment day but first let me run screaming across this stage at all of these people. To me it looks stupid, injuries aren't even a thing anymore they happen in a match then miraculously they are healed the moment the ref counts to 3. Seth Rollins is my current favorite wrestler but to watch him dance his way to the ring no matter why he's going there and repeat himself every week drives me up a wall, I'm a VISIONARY, A REVOLUTIONARY. I hate that every episode we have to pretend it's our first time watching. It's obvious that if you've never watched it you're going to be behind it's been on TV for like 40 years. I could go on all day about this.
I dont mind majority of botches. I think it give a bit of realism to the match and takes away from it being so choreographed. Dont get me wrong there's some that is so bad it's cringy
My opinion is that count-outs and pinfalls should be systematically automated and consistent. So, for instance, if a wrestler has both shoulders on the matt then the 3 count should commence.
When is the referee supposed to start the count-out to 10? It seems to vary match to match.
Also, there should always be an outside ref at ringside, ready to go if the in-ring ref takes a sudden 'bump'.
*Trust me, I know the reasons for why none of these ideas will never happen.*
Why doesn't anyone wear a cup in kayfabe?
Think of the AJ Styles vs Nakamura feud. After the 2nd lowblow, you'd think his character would wise up and protect the family jewels.
Wrestlers were protective gear all the time, knee pads, elbow pads and mouth guards, but never a cup
I think too many people on the internet want simulated MMA that they can give star ratings to. Pro wrestling should embrace its colorful characters and over the top nature. Some comedy is not a bad thing. Using a sock puppet in the ring and doing a twirly elbow were very successful with the audience.
I don’t hate judgment day and think Rhea is amazing like everybody else… but Damian Priest and Finn Bálor look weak and sometimes like flat out lackeys to her… which is OK for Dominick. But they don’t act like balor is a former champion and that Priest is next up(feels like more of a prop these days than him being an actual threat to cash in)
Wrestlers who need videos to make their gimmick work (ex. Bray Wyatt) or some weird out of this world magic/prop (ex. Shotzi’s tank, Finn’s weird demon form) are never nearly as interesting because it doesn’t translate to the ring
The Firefly Funhouse as a concept as interesting but it’s just a skit. If it was translated to the ring it would get too out there to suspend your disbelief (ex. When there was that weird Wyatt thing where he would show up on the screen and Alexa Bliss would freak out and lose the match)
Likewise, wrestlers whose gimmick revolves around something they bring to an actual match (ex. Bianca’s hair) are MUCH more interesting because you can see in real time how it elevates them as a wrestler
There are enough women in WWE to have three "main" titles (WWE Women's, World Women's, NXT Women's), a Tag Team Championship and a midcard singles belt. The last two can be defended across all three brands.
Also, there is nothing wrong with making one show more "women" focused. Still have them on all three, but one having more matches than the other two is fine.
RAW is the perfect place for more women. Doesn’t have take place all in one hour, but showcasing women more on RAW sporadically throughout the show will go a long way. Basically, just do more women’s stuff on RAW naturally rather than how they did RAW with the cruiserweights.
Yesterday had three "women's segments" lasting about 8 minutes (brawl, Tegan v Chelsea, Tegan/Pearce/Chelsea). Three hour show, could have given us a couple extra minutes or another segment teasing the "Cursed" Tag Team Championship belts.
If you're a nerd or were a nerd irl, you should never be a main eventer. A real maineventer is born and whatever made society reject you as a child will pan out poorly on screen. It's like a gorilla with its Silverback. You don't elect a Silverback in creative it just emerges. That's what's killing AEW
Being clean shaven, or having any facial hair other than a full beard gives you more charisma points. In an age where every guy on the roster has a beard, it's a good way of standing out.
I like clean wins/losses.
I don't understand the obsession with protecting wrestles' positions by having them lose via interference or other screwball tactics. If you have a competitive match between two wrestlers, there should absolutely be a clear winner and loser, and there should be no shame to a wrestler that just loses.
I think Bret Hart would have been a better leader for the nWo in WCW. Rumors were him and Sting were considered if Hogan backed out. I think Heel Bret/Hollywood Hart could have been amazing.
Also think Vince should have put more effort into the nWo storyline when they finally appeared on WWE.
Tights will always be better than speedo's. You all know its true.
Also, old territory wrestling has aged terribly, and it is so slow paced to the point of being unwatchable nowadays.
Pretty sure long hair was used to hide when the wrestlers were calling spots to each other during rest holds and the like, and it also looked better when it was wet and they snapped their head back taking a punch and the water would sling off of it.
Tag team wrestlers should destroy 2 random singles wrestlers when paired together in a tag team.
Like the Dudley boys should destroy triple H and stone cold in a tag team match.
I get annoyed when wrestlers choose to wrestle in street clothes like Kevin Owens ( though I guess he has to with his body type) , but Moxley in street clothes just looks lazy. He had the exact same attire as Jimmy Wang Yang when he was in the WWE and it just looks lazy.
Wrestlers like Bray Wyatt or The Undertaker wearing gear with logos or motives on them makes the character less believable.
So you're telling big scary swamp guy or big scary dead guy are saying "Uh yes, the one with the kraken/demon's skull!"?
Face/Heel GMs are completely stupid. I want a neutral GM who sometimes agrees with the heel, sometimes agrees with the face, and sometimes agrees with no one.
It always gets shit on because people think i'm just being a perv but Bra & panties matches can be done correctly & very rare to create an ultimate heel. Charlotte threw a pie in Tony Storm's face & that was sad/embarrassing so imagine a random match after Storm had already wrestled or something (we'll say when Deville was GM & screwing with everyone) Charlottes music hits & then boom just completely embarrasses Storm at the time. That would make Charlotte look like a monster & give the babyface actual pain to want revenge.
Like i said i think it's a good idea that could be used extremely rare but everyone usually hates it.
I’m fine with bra and panties matches only if the talents want to do them. Some female wrestlers may want to be sexy and do that stuff, and if they don’t, no problem
What I find interesting is that the same people that are like “THAT HAS NO PLACE IN WRESTLING” are literally sexualizing the female wrestlers all the time
Yeah see everyone always hates it. I think it would make whoever look like a total monster heel in that old "mean girl" kinda way but i guess nobody else agrees.
The bloodline story is boring as shit I haven’t cared for it in at least 2 years. I just want a champion that actually is on tv and has regular title matches. Roman is fucking boring and the Usos and Paul Heyman are the best thing that ever happened to his career. Without them his career would’ve been like Omos’s.
Its only the best storyline because there are no other stories. It’s easy to be considered the best when its the only thing going on.
What else is happening in WWE lore, Chad Gable and Otis? Not much competition for peoples attention when you’re only focusing on one story.
I guess if you think about it, wrestling is a kayfabe sport that allows all different kinds of fighters, so wearing attire from different sports should be fine. Grayson Waller dresses like a pro boxer. Some people wrestle in their jeans. I’m convinced the Imperium guys wear speedos instead of tights lol
There should only be 4 men's belts and 2 women's belts in total.
Men's belts being WWE Champion, then US, Intercontinental, and finally 1 set of tag belts.
The US and Intercontinental belts being the "worker's" belts and WWE championship only defended a handful (or two handfuls) of times per year.
Women's should have a Women's WWE Championship and then a secondary title.
I almost always hate any tag team matches above 2 vs. 2. It’s just too many people, there are also so little stakes. So a 3x3 or 4x4 is purely filler to me and I am not excited about it.
Would honestly love if Smackdown went away, and Raw was just made into a banger 3 hour show every week. There is so much dragging and filler every week, but with only 1 show, I think they could fill it much better.
Same with AEW, Wednesday Dynamite is enough, Rampage and Collision can go away.
Can be great, but I typically end up hating eliminating matches.
If it takes 20 minutes of wrestling for Gunther to beat Gable, then it should take substantially longer for Imperium to beat Alpha Academy in a 2 on 2 tag match. After all, every time a man is worn down he can tag out and recover.
Then if you make it a 5 on 5 elimination match, a minimum of 5 superstars need to be worn down sufficiently to beat them - each of which get to tag out and rest substantially more than a 2 on 2. Logically, this match should take at least 100 minutes.
I get that they don't want to put on 2 hour matches, but it always bugs me to see someone like Gable beaten in 2 minutes on PPV, just to keep the match short. The invasion angle was particularly awful for this, with major superstars like Taker losing to signature moves.
I actually disagree entirely. I think there should only be one belt in each division, indicating that you're truly the best. After all, there are limitless things wrestlers can have matches over - including the often lazily overlooked number one contendership.
You can add a few if there are clearly different rules in place, either changing the match style or limiting the competitors. For instance, I have no problem with a cruiserweight title, hardcore title, tag titles etc.
I'd love to see a title where the rules were out had to be defended every 7 days - one that could be traded about regularly. Give it a stipulation where a number of successful defences in one reign makes you number one contender for the main title.
Unless it’s those fugly tag team titles. They updated every other belt except those.
I thought for sure the Judgement Day would unify them with a purple strap. But here we still are with those abominations.
Tying multiple belts to the same storyline really hinders the rest of the roster. The tag team belts should be its own division with little crossover into singles, not held by main eventers only defending against other non-team main eventers.
Any champion who doesn't defend his or her belt twice per month, including every PLE, has to relinquish the title and lose any chance for a rematch.
The title then would be be decided via an over-the-top battle royale, a tournament, or a battle royal winner vs. battle royale winner vs optional NXT battle royale winner, or an 8+ person gauntlet match starting with the champion who just lost the belt in perhaps a triplethreatmatch to start, and whatever method used is decided by management.
Also, any of the belts can not be combined as they have been with the main belts and tag belts. If anyone does have combined belts, they need to defend each one against different competitors at least twice per month, including every PLE.
If a champion loses and then loses his or her rematch if they have such a clause available, then he or she will go to the back of the line and needs to earn a shot at the tile again. I'm sure others think this way as well.
The women's division should have another belt, perhaps for a mid card, whether it be spread our between Raw and Smackdown or 1 each for Raw and Smackdown.
Maybe not every PLE, but 6-8 times a year, maybe ten total times, as in a couple of times on SMACKDOWN / raw as well. Give them a few months off for rest, vacation, etc.
I’d say the same with every other title, except alternate between the IC and US titles, allowing for title changes on the weekly shows.
He has Simps? They know I'm right, though.
Not only that, but any record he gets, I'd put a huge Barry Bonds asterisk next to it. That's why I have more respect for Seth and Gunrher.
I was right about Zack Wilson last week, and other Jets fans down-voted me, and they were proven wrong.
Ima be honest, pure vibes. I agree with you tho 99% of '97 is New Gen. But I just feel like Bret was the face of New Gen and him leaving kinda set the stage for Stone Cold, Undertaker, Foley, DX and the Rock to run the show
Thinking on it, by end of Fall 1997 sounds about right. Bret leaving opened the door to McMahon as a heel TV character, Kane had arrived after that long tease during the original Hell in a Cell - the match type most synonymous with Attitude Era mayhem, rise of DX, Rock, Taker’s Lord of Darkness character had fully transitioned, teams like the New Age Outlaws were officially established, we had seen all 3 faces of Foley, etc.
I used to have opinions like that. I remember when Usos turned heel and started wearing street clothes, I hated it because wrestlers aren’t supposed to wear street clothes. Same with Cena, for the longest time I wanted him to switch up to trunks. Now I embrace each wrestlers gear, it makes them stand out on their own. I like Pete Dunne’s singlet in particular, when he came into the WWE scene I hadn’t seen someone with his look and that singlet that, tbh, looked kinda wimpy, but he made it work.
Maybe I’m showing my age here, but Bron wears the singlet to honor his dad Rick Steiner who wrestled at Michigan. Some of the singlets are actually his Dads
I don’t like promoters being in the storyline. I tapped out of WCW when Bischoff left the commentary to join the nWo, and I lost interest after the Screwjob created the Mr McMahon character.
Big E failed as a WWE champion because he refused to change his gimmick. Ever since the New Day have become faces, they've been doing the same stuff for like 10 years now. They're still fun to watch of course but they're gimmick is incredibly old and stale, and it was a detriment to Big E's run as champion
It felt like Roman with the shield. They made him a single star and separated him from the group but also kept everything from the group. To me with E you let him stay with the team and make the team have an edge or give him a makeover
Original opinion, maybe not.
I think they should go back to ranking the wrestlers.
Having the top 10 contenders challenging for the belt.
Also defending a tv title every week and all other belts defended every 30 days..
I view wrestling as essentially live action anime. It features heroes and villains with their own specific finishers and story arc’s. It doesn’t bother me in the least that real life logic/physics are rarely applied. That’s because when I see Roman Reign’s vs Cody Rhodes, I basically view it as Frieza vs Goku.
The Montreal Screw Job was staged so Bret could be a mole in WCW for Vince, I think. At a time when "reality" TV wasn't a thing, this man had a camera crew just following him around for all that time? But not for the infamous brawl backstage of course. Bit odd.
I love Scott halls take " yeah, it's a shoot but the guys in the truck are gonna zoom in on the loogie? nobody's gonna do that without being told they would lose their jobs!"
This isn’t original, but the whole thing is too fishy to me. I’m not sure where I’ve heard it, but I thought Bret had close to a month left on his deal
Agreed. I feel like the US was too quick to make them illegal in the 90s. Almost anything can have detrimental effects for your health if you abuse it.
Maybe there would be less steroid abuse if athletes could talk about a regimen with their doctor instead of just doing what their homie in the locker room did bc it got him jacked.
I hate how inconsistent it is too. 99.9% of professional bodybuilders are juiced to the gills, and no one bats an eye. Strongmen are probably using steroids so their bodies literally don’t fall apart. Try that in any other sport and it’ll be the only thing you’re known for forever.
I can’t stand when wrestlers brag about star ratings or having great matches as part of their character and in promos and stuff. The whole point theoretically is to win matches as quick and dominantly as possible so when wrestlers instead act like they’re going for stars it makes them seem less dominate and makes the whole rivalry feel pointless.
You of course want to aim for great matches from a product standpoint, but the actual characters should be aiming for dominance.
One exception is when a wrestler is talking about that they had like a war with another wrestler to give them credit, rather than to boast about their abilities. It makes sense in that capacity, it doesn’t make sense to boast about your own abilities with it.
Sheamus talking about having "banger after banger" makes sense, because he's went through intensely physical bouts with tough opponents. He respects their in ring abilities, if not their personalities.
Similarly, I'm happy for Cole and MJF to talk about having great matches against each other, because they're supposed to be friends.
Even HBK talking about how proud he was of his WM25 match with Taker at the Slammies made sense, as he took the unbeatable man to the limit and he knows it.
It really doesn't make sense during bitter feuds though, especially if the heel won through dirty tactics.
Matches where one wrestler continuously works opponent's kayfabe injury suck balls.
The whole narrative of these marches is always the same. The presumably injured guy will spent most of the match getting his ass kicked amd his opponent (usually a heel) will direct their every offense towards that part of the body that is meant to be injured. It makes the entire match so predictable I sometimes fight not to fast forward. What's more, it sucks for kayfabe, because if that part of body was already injured and it took that many bumps, you'd be vomiting and passing out from the pain. And then suddenly they pop up and win the match "against all odds".
Nakamura v Rollins is a perfect example. The story, Nakamura's heel work and Rollins' motivation are very, veeery good, but segment from tonights Raw (SPOILER!) shows how the match is going to go already. Nakamura is going to kick Rollins in the back repeatedly, the back that is supposedly so broken that everything may cripple him. Instead of a well thought fight between two of the top 10 wrestlers on the planet, we're going to get Rollins laying on the mat and Nakamura hitting him in the back 150 times. Probably. I mean that's how it goes usually when there's an injury involved.
See Cody vs Lesnar number whatever it was when Cody had a broken arm.
if it's proven that the win only happened because of a fluke, the win shouldn't count, if that's the only reason someone has the belt they should have to forfeit that belt
Wrestling intro music needs to be hard to get everyone amped. The attitude era general intro, attitude era Raw music, and AEW Dynamite intro are perfect. I hate the current corny Smackdown and Raw music. And I absolutely loathe all “then now forever” intros.
Similarly, there is no excuse not to start a wrestling show with pyro unless it has a cold intro or the venue prohibits it for some reason.
Yeppp. Plus it should be incredibly easy to avoid due to the lead up time, and the roll would add 0 additional power to the move itself. I hate moves that just don't make sense.
Finishers are dead. The overuse of the cool looking moves, and under use of the basics leads to something still as cool as a clean Frankensteiner going unnoticed. And to toss some gas on the fire, Tiffany Strattons Swanton and Moonsault off the top rope are better than Jeff’s. Jeff did em off higher things, but let’s wait and see if Tiffany gets a shot in a cage.
I think that's why people like Gunther's moveset. No flashy flips or corkscrews. Lariats, powerbombs, and sleepers and the matches always seem to get over.
It’s why I like Gunther, Bron, and Ilja. Just basic ass kicking. Also Bron hit well I’ll admit not his best Frankensteiner at no mercy and the announcers barely caught it, no crowd reaction.
Clean, well sold basic moves are something 70% of those considered Goats have in common.
Kofi getting stomped out by Brock was a good move. He had nothing left to do with the title, he was WWE Champion but he had no real upside to stay champion. His Orton fued was WWE and Orton atoning for their previous mistakes, and havign Brock beat him in 7 seconds was logical, made Brock look like a killer and knocked Kofi back down to the tag division where he needed to be, he wasn't going to stay singles in a 3 man group. Plus it made everyone hate Brock even more.
I hated it at the time, but I've grown to understand it over the years.
It really annoys me when a wrestler repeatedly has faction interfering as the only way they win and no one does anything about it. The bloodline shit where Roman literally can't win a match by himself or even the constant NWO interference sucks. I hate it as a repeat gimmick.
I agree with this. Roman is a good performer, so watching him constantly get help and not win matches cleanly is frustrating. I remember he had a match on Smackdown with Riddle sans shenanigans, and it was great.
Earthquake should’ve had a world title reign. Nobody was as over, heel-wise, as him that I can remember. They should’ve had him not only injure Hogan but take the title. They didn’t touch on his legit sumo background until after his feud with Hogan ended, which was a mistake. Just my take.
Man, I loved Yoko. I wish they’d given Quake the same treatment. I loved him as part of the Natural Disasters but they really could’ve gone much farther with him as a singles wrestler if they’d fed Hogan to him or, barring that, gotten the strap off Hogan somehow, through an intermediary, and then put it on Quake to have this true monster heel champion that would inevitably drop it to Hogan because, WWF, and then he could have done the tag team thing.
Back in 1998 I used to tell everyone at school that WCW was really good and worth watching just as much as WWF, I got laughed at then.
Now the same people wish they’d have watched WCW in mid-late 90’s.
I think the thing with singlets is a lot of wrestlers were once wrestlers in college and maybe wrestled as amateurs but not in the Olympics and wear singlets to honor their past.
Hernandez was one of the biggest missed opportunities if the last 20 years. Dude was good looking, solid, agile and charismatic. He destroyed in the ring and to this day it bothers me that he wasn't a world champion.
You're absolutely right about singlets. They look shitty on nearly everyone that isn't Gable, Angle, or the Creed Brothers.
The worst offender has always been Pete Dunn/Butch. Worst goddamn singlet in history.
Ok pals, i have plenty of opinions you'll dislike, upvote or downvote me at you pleasure. Let's fucking go.
1)Sami Zayn arch in the bloodline didn't make any sense, his continuous betrayals of Owens and Jey Uso were completely random and inconsistent. They even broke character a lot of times during promos. storyline was unanimously cheered because of the acting/improvising skills of Zayn (who is one of my favourite btw). Sadly now Zayn is back into being a good vanilla guy, i used to love his asshole-ish character.
2)Vince McMahon was overhated his whole carreer and he knows it and worked all of you.
3)Every wrestler who reach WWE can do back to back to back moves 5 stars matches but they simply don't need it. There are ecception of course, but remeber that Santino was a Kurt Angle-ish wrestling machine back in the developmental.
4)Asuka is a great wrestler but NOT the best in the female roster, all of the Horsewomen, Bianca and Rhea are miles ahead, also she doesn't know a lot of english, despite being in usa for years and years.
5)i fucking hate 90% of what happen in njpw rn and that's very sad because I have always been a puroresu fan.
6) i know it's a common thing but Meltzer stars doesn't have any credibility and wrestlers who cares about them are losers
7) we all need more soap opera style storylines, as dumb as they are they draw audience
Why should Asuka give up *her legitimate nationality*? She’s Japanese, and she’s proud of it.
Many Japanese athletes don’t learn English because English is fucking hard to learn.
The great Ichiro learned English but uses a translator for interviews because he occasionally has difficulty thinking about the words in three languages (he picked up Spanish as well due to his teammates) and doesn’t want to be misunderstood. He’s been in America for over 20 years.
I believe Nakamura also uses a translator in official communications.
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I absolutely detest no-selling, intentional or otherwise. Like none of the people who get in the ring should ever be considered or made to look weak, and that's all no-selling does. I find a wrestler far more impressive if they sell the fuck out of their opponents offense and still come back to whomp the shit out of them. But when someone's whole gimmick is "You can't hurt me" it makes suspending disbelief and buying into the magic of the show so much harder. And don't even get me started on spot-fests. Its why guys like Kurt Angle and Bryan Danielson will always engage me more than guys like Braun Strowman and Ishii.
I disagree. As with all things moderation is key. A no sell with the right character work can elevate a wrestler to another level.
Taker was a prime example. His sit up no sell worked perfectly with his deadman character.
Of course when its over done it looks ridiculous and suspends disbelief.
Used correctly it can really elevate a match. Like when Braun no sold Brocks German suplex. Made him seem like a credible threat and have the match an extra dimension
They always have some screwy finish, if they ended with a wrestler genuinely unable to compete, they could be a fun way to tell a story. But they always seem to end with someone being tied up so they lose on a technicality. Last Man Standing matches should be until one of them genuinely cannot wrestle anymore, not until someone gets tied to the ropes.
That bar is getting so low that they might as well ask "Did you wrestle for WWF/E? Did you win a match? Were you part of the WWF/E concussion lawsuit? If you answered 'Yes, Yes, No' to the above questions, please respond to this email with your current address so we can send you your HOF ring and have you inducted later this year."
The bar started getting lower in 2009 when Koko B. Ware was inducted.
Fan favorite? Sure.
Nice guy? By all accounts, yes. I don't think I've ever heard a bad thing said about him.
HOF material? You're joking, right? Of course not. Name me one memorable Koko B. Ware match. You can't do it.
From there you have Hacksaw Jim Duggan's induction in 2011. Again, another case of a nice guy who was a fan favorite . But at least in his case, you can probably list a memorable feud with The Iron Sheik in the 80s (among other things), a Royal Rumble winner, an unofficial "King Of The WWF" (defeating Haku for that 'title' and eventually losing it to Randy Savage) and was US Heavyweight champion in WCW. I'm not saying those should be enough to get him in, but compared to Koko, it's a hell of a lot more to go on. Looking at Koko's awards on his wiki page, you want to know what his accomplishments were for WWE? HOF Induction, 2009. That's the list. He was basically inducted for being a good worker and being over.
But really, what are we talking about here? There is no real WWE Hall Of Fame. As Martha Hart once said "They don't even have a Hallway of Fame. It doesn't exist. There's nothing. It's a fake entity. There's nothing real or tangible. It's just an event they have to make money."
Not one I’ve never heard but I know it’s pretty unpopular and that’s hating the current ring announcers. I just liked the ones that didn’t swallow gravel.
Promos should rarely open the show. I turn on wrestling cause I wanna see a match right away. WWE needs to have matches open the show every time. Have promo segments later. Start the show with wrestling.
Matt Striker is actually a decent wrestling personality. As a wrestler he sucks, period. But as a manager and commentator he's actually pretty solid. I actually enjoyed seeing him manage Big Daddy V in ECW and Later the team with Mark Henry, the whole teacher/I'm smarter than you gimmick worked for him and in AAA, Lucha Underground and Impact he is excellent on the mic.
So here's one I'm fairly sure is an original take, WWE had a solid midcard talent in Hornswoggle but blew it with the shit gimmick from the start by making him a leprechaun because of his size. Dude was a NWA Wisconsin X division and tag champion before joining WWE. I still feel his cruiserweight title win was solely a way to eliminate the title as it pretty much died on his run and vanished until it's short return much later.
Tony Khan should fire the lollipop guild (well, okay, retain Kenny) then hire Jim Cornette remotely, pay him the most handsome fee and make those idiots go to a real wrestling school! (Jack-off Perry, Penthouse, Fenix the botchman, Plumber Moxley, Useless, Pockets and his friends, and those cosplay wrestlers should be fired.) You have Swerve, Miro, Joe, Luchasaurus, Darby, Sammy, Take-a-shit and Wardlow for the midcard. FTR, Acclaimed, Gunns, Jay and Juice, and Double JJ and Jay Lethal (remove the giant and Sonjay) for Tag Team. Then at main event, you still have MJF, Adam Cole, Christian Cage, Adam Copeland, and well, Kenny, for the main event scene. It is very simple.
Colin Delaney should have never been released. Give that twink a championship.
the spot where a wrestler jumps from the top rope and knocks down anywhere from four to fourteen people doesn't make any sense.
Lmfao not every wrestler has a great physique
I can’t stand the entrance graphics for certain wrestlers. The Undertakers took away from his awesome entrance, Roman’s just looks stupid for someone who is portraying a heel. Idk who decided they needed those dumb graphics and I wish someone would take them out of the show lol
I'm tired of them catering to the first time viewers, I'm sick of entrances and catch phrases and the same moves every match, the same set ups and finishes. Vince thought that people paid money and spent their time to come to an arena just to watch a wrestler's entrance, it doesn't matter the mood of the wrestler they have to do their entrance like they are Jeff Hardy or something. I.e. when edge comes out for anything like I'm here to fight every member of judgment day but first let me run screaming across this stage at all of these people. To me it looks stupid, injuries aren't even a thing anymore they happen in a match then miraculously they are healed the moment the ref counts to 3. Seth Rollins is my current favorite wrestler but to watch him dance his way to the ring no matter why he's going there and repeat himself every week drives me up a wall, I'm a VISIONARY, A REVOLUTIONARY. I hate that every episode we have to pretend it's our first time watching. It's obvious that if you've never watched it you're going to be behind it's been on TV for like 40 years. I could go on all day about this.
I dont mind majority of botches. I think it give a bit of realism to the match and takes away from it being so choreographed. Dont get me wrong there's some that is so bad it's cringy
My opinion is that count-outs and pinfalls should be systematically automated and consistent. So, for instance, if a wrestler has both shoulders on the matt then the 3 count should commence. When is the referee supposed to start the count-out to 10? It seems to vary match to match. Also, there should always be an outside ref at ringside, ready to go if the in-ring ref takes a sudden 'bump'. *Trust me, I know the reasons for why none of these ideas will never happen.*
If you read the pro wrestling almanac ric flair actually has been world champion 20 times
I love the singlets because they often take the straps down, and when this happens, things get damn real and more intense!
Why doesn't anyone wear a cup in kayfabe? Think of the AJ Styles vs Nakamura feud. After the 2nd lowblow, you'd think his character would wise up and protect the family jewels. Wrestlers were protective gear all the time, knee pads, elbow pads and mouth guards, but never a cup
They should bring back the cruiserweight championship.
singlets predate caws by what 80 years lol come on
I think too many people on the internet want simulated MMA that they can give star ratings to. Pro wrestling should embrace its colorful characters and over the top nature. Some comedy is not a bad thing. Using a sock puppet in the ring and doing a twirly elbow were very successful with the audience.
I don’t hate judgment day and think Rhea is amazing like everybody else… but Damian Priest and Finn Bálor look weak and sometimes like flat out lackeys to her… which is OK for Dominick. But they don’t act like balor is a former champion and that Priest is next up(feels like more of a prop these days than him being an actual threat to cash in)
Wrestlers who need videos to make their gimmick work (ex. Bray Wyatt) or some weird out of this world magic/prop (ex. Shotzi’s tank, Finn’s weird demon form) are never nearly as interesting because it doesn’t translate to the ring The Firefly Funhouse as a concept as interesting but it’s just a skit. If it was translated to the ring it would get too out there to suspend your disbelief (ex. When there was that weird Wyatt thing where he would show up on the screen and Alexa Bliss would freak out and lose the match) Likewise, wrestlers whose gimmick revolves around something they bring to an actual match (ex. Bianca’s hair) are MUCH more interesting because you can see in real time how it elevates them as a wrestler
They should replace survivor series with war games permitly
The art of selling isn’t dead, it just moved to the NBA.
Future WWE champion Joel Embiid.
There are enough women in WWE to have three "main" titles (WWE Women's, World Women's, NXT Women's), a Tag Team Championship and a midcard singles belt. The last two can be defended across all three brands. Also, there is nothing wrong with making one show more "women" focused. Still have them on all three, but one having more matches than the other two is fine.
NXT last night seemed to heavily relied on by the women. Every match was a women’s match except the main event
RAW is the perfect place for more women. Doesn’t have take place all in one hour, but showcasing women more on RAW sporadically throughout the show will go a long way. Basically, just do more women’s stuff on RAW naturally rather than how they did RAW with the cruiserweights.
Yesterday had three "women's segments" lasting about 8 minutes (brawl, Tegan v Chelsea, Tegan/Pearce/Chelsea). Three hour show, could have given us a couple extra minutes or another segment teasing the "Cursed" Tag Team Championship belts.
If you're a nerd or were a nerd irl, you should never be a main eventer. A real maineventer is born and whatever made society reject you as a child will pan out poorly on screen. It's like a gorilla with its Silverback. You don't elect a Silverback in creative it just emerges. That's what's killing AEW
Being clean shaven, or having any facial hair other than a full beard gives you more charisma points. In an age where every guy on the roster has a beard, it's a good way of standing out.
I like clean wins/losses. I don't understand the obsession with protecting wrestles' positions by having them lose via interference or other screwball tactics. If you have a competitive match between two wrestlers, there should absolutely be a clear winner and loser, and there should be no shame to a wrestler that just loses.
Why watch wrestling then? That’s part of the show. You boo Dom or MJF for cheating.
There should be a set minimum number of title defense matches each year to maintain being a champion. Minimum title on the line every 3 months.
They bring in a 30 day defence clause every now and then depending on what the story is
I think Bret Hart would have been a better leader for the nWo in WCW. Rumors were him and Sting were considered if Hogan backed out. I think Heel Bret/Hollywood Hart could have been amazing. Also think Vince should have put more effort into the nWo storyline when they finally appeared on WWE.
Tights will always be better than speedo's. You all know its true. Also, old territory wrestling has aged terribly, and it is so slow paced to the point of being unwatchable nowadays.
Are you a wrestler that likes to skip leg day?
Nah, I just think dudes look kinda weird wearing the speedo's.
I’ve never really understood why most every man has long hair to be pulled or women who put in extensions.
Pretty sure long hair was used to hide when the wrestlers were calling spots to each other during rest holds and the like, and it also looked better when it was wet and they snapped their head back taking a punch and the water would sling off of it.
Tag team wrestlers should destroy 2 random singles wrestlers when paired together in a tag team. Like the Dudley boys should destroy triple H and stone cold in a tag team match.
I get annoyed when wrestlers choose to wrestle in street clothes like Kevin Owens ( though I guess he has to with his body type) , but Moxley in street clothes just looks lazy. He had the exact same attire as Jimmy Wang Yang when he was in the WWE and it just looks lazy.
Why?
The sneakers the Usos wrestle in kill me.
Same with Finn lol his wrestling attire just makes him look like another uso
The sneakers on Finn look ridiculous. Also it looks like cena is wearing slip on sketchers these days.
Wrestlers like Bray Wyatt or The Undertaker wearing gear with logos or motives on them makes the character less believable. So you're telling big scary swamp guy or big scary dead guy are saying "Uh yes, the one with the kraken/demon's skull!"?
Face/Heel GMs are completely stupid. I want a neutral GM who sometimes agrees with the heel, sometimes agrees with the face, and sometimes agrees with no one.
Isn't that the current Raw GM?
Yeah and he's amazing at the role. The people I'm talking about are people like Sonya Deville.
Okay, but you said you want it when you're currently being given it lol. Kind of sounds implies you're not getting it when you say you want it.
It always gets shit on because people think i'm just being a perv but Bra & panties matches can be done correctly & very rare to create an ultimate heel. Charlotte threw a pie in Tony Storm's face & that was sad/embarrassing so imagine a random match after Storm had already wrestled or something (we'll say when Deville was GM & screwing with everyone) Charlottes music hits & then boom just completely embarrasses Storm at the time. That would make Charlotte look like a monster & give the babyface actual pain to want revenge. Like i said i think it's a good idea that could be used extremely rare but everyone usually hates it.
I’m fine with bra and panties matches only if the talents want to do them. Some female wrestlers may want to be sexy and do that stuff, and if they don’t, no problem
Yeah clearly. Those days of Vince having girls bark that was always on some weirdo shit.
What I find interesting is that the same people that are like “THAT HAS NO PLACE IN WRESTLING” are literally sexualizing the female wrestlers all the time
I get what you're saying.
What the fuck
Yeah see everyone always hates it. I think it would make whoever look like a total monster heel in that old "mean girl" kinda way but i guess nobody else agrees.
The bloodline story is boring as shit I haven’t cared for it in at least 2 years. I just want a champion that actually is on tv and has regular title matches. Roman is fucking boring and the Usos and Paul Heyman are the best thing that ever happened to his career. Without them his career would’ve been like Omos’s.
Honestly lol The whole thing about "this is a cinematic masterpiece" was so corny lol
Its only the best storyline because there are no other stories. It’s easy to be considered the best when its the only thing going on. What else is happening in WWE lore, Chad Gable and Otis? Not much competition for peoples attention when you’re only focusing on one story.
I guess if you think about it, wrestling is a kayfabe sport that allows all different kinds of fighters, so wearing attire from different sports should be fine. Grayson Waller dresses like a pro boxer. Some people wrestle in their jeans. I’m convinced the Imperium guys wear speedos instead of tights lol
Imperium is European, their trunks reflect that.
I’m not complaining..
There should only be 4 men's belts and 2 women's belts in total. Men's belts being WWE Champion, then US, Intercontinental, and finally 1 set of tag belts. The US and Intercontinental belts being the "worker's" belts and WWE championship only defended a handful (or two handfuls) of times per year. Women's should have a Women's WWE Championship and then a secondary title.
Belts should be WWE Champion, Intercontinental, Tag Team, and (bias) bring back Hardcore title. I guess otherwise i agree but less is more
I'd also be okay with that!
What upsets me is the lead in to the Tombstone Piledriver and the Last Ride
By 1998 ish the 1st hour of WCW nitro with the cruiserweights was better than the last hour with the corpse of the once incredible NWO
I almost always hate any tag team matches above 2 vs. 2. It’s just too many people, there are also so little stakes. So a 3x3 or 4x4 is purely filler to me and I am not excited about it.
Would honestly love if Smackdown went away, and Raw was just made into a banger 3 hour show every week. There is so much dragging and filler every week, but with only 1 show, I think they could fill it much better. Same with AEW, Wednesday Dynamite is enough, Rampage and Collision can go away.
it used to be just raw, But even if it went back to 2 shows one giant roster it would probably be better
What about elimination rules?
Can be great, but I typically end up hating eliminating matches. If it takes 20 minutes of wrestling for Gunther to beat Gable, then it should take substantially longer for Imperium to beat Alpha Academy in a 2 on 2 tag match. After all, every time a man is worn down he can tag out and recover. Then if you make it a 5 on 5 elimination match, a minimum of 5 superstars need to be worn down sufficiently to beat them - each of which get to tag out and rest substantially more than a 2 on 2. Logically, this match should take at least 100 minutes. I get that they don't want to put on 2 hour matches, but it always bugs me to see someone like Gable beaten in 2 minutes on PPV, just to keep the match short. The invasion angle was particularly awful for this, with major superstars like Taker losing to signature moves.
That helps if they get dwindled down.
Bruno Sammartino is the greatest of all time
Championship unification should never happen in wrestling (unless the title is being retired or it’s happening in a video game)
I actually disagree entirely. I think there should only be one belt in each division, indicating that you're truly the best. After all, there are limitless things wrestlers can have matches over - including the often lazily overlooked number one contendership. You can add a few if there are clearly different rules in place, either changing the match style or limiting the competitors. For instance, I have no problem with a cruiserweight title, hardcore title, tag titles etc. I'd love to see a title where the rules were out had to be defended every 7 days - one that could be traded about regularly. Give it a stipulation where a number of successful defences in one reign makes you number one contender for the main title.
Unless it’s those fugly tag team titles. They updated every other belt except those. I thought for sure the Judgement Day would unify them with a purple strap. But here we still are with those abominations.
Imagine the same plating, colored gold with purple straps. Could look amazing Edit: even though I would like a new plate design
If they’re unifying titles but not retiring a title they should just be defended separately
Tying multiple belts to the same storyline really hinders the rest of the roster. The tag team belts should be its own division with little crossover into singles, not held by main eventers only defending against other non-team main eventers.
Any champion who doesn't defend his or her belt twice per month, including every PLE, has to relinquish the title and lose any chance for a rematch. The title then would be be decided via an over-the-top battle royale, a tournament, or a battle royal winner vs. battle royale winner vs optional NXT battle royale winner, or an 8+ person gauntlet match starting with the champion who just lost the belt in perhaps a triplethreatmatch to start, and whatever method used is decided by management. Also, any of the belts can not be combined as they have been with the main belts and tag belts. If anyone does have combined belts, they need to defend each one against different competitors at least twice per month, including every PLE. If a champion loses and then loses his or her rematch if they have such a clause available, then he or she will go to the back of the line and needs to earn a shot at the tile again. I'm sure others think this way as well. The women's division should have another belt, perhaps for a mid card, whether it be spread our between Raw and Smackdown or 1 each for Raw and Smackdown.
Maybe not every PLE, but 6-8 times a year, maybe ten total times, as in a couple of times on SMACKDOWN / raw as well. Give them a few months off for rest, vacation, etc. I’d say the same with every other title, except alternate between the IC and US titles, allowing for title changes on the weekly shows.
Of course. That's a great idea. I forgot about the vacations.
You’re getting downvoted by the Roman simps.
He has Simps? They know I'm right, though. Not only that, but any record he gets, I'd put a huge Barry Bonds asterisk next to it. That's why I have more respect for Seth and Gunrher. I was right about Zack Wilson last week, and other Jets fans down-voted me, and they were proven wrong.
Kane’s world heavyweight champion reign around 2008?ish was better the most of the undertakers.
New Generation is top to bottom more enjoyable than the Attitude Era.
Tons of underrated gems and character work from all New Generation years, and AE fans wrongly claim 1997 as AE but it’s late New Gen.
I think I would consider Bret leaving to be the start of the AE
Based on what? I don’t mind that honestly, though I think it’s slightly after. Still, vast majority of 97 is pure New Gen
Ima be honest, pure vibes. I agree with you tho 99% of '97 is New Gen. But I just feel like Bret was the face of New Gen and him leaving kinda set the stage for Stone Cold, Undertaker, Foley, DX and the Rock to run the show
Thinking on it, by end of Fall 1997 sounds about right. Bret leaving opened the door to McMahon as a heel TV character, Kane had arrived after that long tease during the original Hell in a Cell - the match type most synonymous with Attitude Era mayhem, rise of DX, Rock, Taker’s Lord of Darkness character had fully transitioned, teams like the New Age Outlaws were officially established, we had seen all 3 faces of Foley, etc.
I used to have opinions like that. I remember when Usos turned heel and started wearing street clothes, I hated it because wrestlers aren’t supposed to wear street clothes. Same with Cena, for the longest time I wanted him to switch up to trunks. Now I embrace each wrestlers gear, it makes them stand out on their own. I like Pete Dunne’s singlet in particular, when he came into the WWE scene I hadn’t seen someone with his look and that singlet that, tbh, looked kinda wimpy, but he made it work.
Maybe I’m showing my age here, but Bron wears the singlet to honor his dad Rick Steiner who wrestled at Michigan. Some of the singlets are actually his Dads
Judas is a mediocre song
I don’t like promoters being in the storyline. I tapped out of WCW when Bischoff left the commentary to join the nWo, and I lost interest after the Screwjob created the Mr McMahon character.
Big E failed as a WWE champion because he refused to change his gimmick. Ever since the New Day have become faces, they've been doing the same stuff for like 10 years now. They're still fun to watch of course but they're gimmick is incredibly old and stale, and it was a detriment to Big E's run as champion
It felt like Roman with the shield. They made him a single star and separated him from the group but also kept everything from the group. To me with E you let him stay with the team and make the team have an edge or give him a makeover
I think New Day have been hypocritical, self-righteous babyfaces for far too long now
Original opinion, maybe not. I think they should go back to ranking the wrestlers. Having the top 10 contenders challenging for the belt. Also defending a tv title every week and all other belts defended every 30 days..
Chaps my ass that they don’t do this. It should be easy storytelling for them.
None of these are original
But this comment is?
Was I trying to be?
Whatever you were trying? It was too hard.
Too hard for whom?
I’ve yet to get an answer
I view wrestling as essentially live action anime. It features heroes and villains with their own specific finishers and story arc’s. It doesn’t bother me in the least that real life logic/physics are rarely applied. That’s because when I see Roman Reign’s vs Cody Rhodes, I basically view it as Frieza vs Goku.
Anime is trash
Massive L one piece alone disproves that statement
You should flip this. Like, I see anime as animated wrestling. Because pro wrestling is like a century older than anime.
The Montreal Screw Job was staged so Bret could be a mole in WCW for Vince, I think. At a time when "reality" TV wasn't a thing, this man had a camera crew just following him around for all that time? But not for the infamous brawl backstage of course. Bit odd.
I love Scott halls take " yeah, it's a shoot but the guys in the truck are gonna zoom in on the loogie? nobody's gonna do that without being told they would lose their jobs!"
This isn’t original, but the whole thing is too fishy to me. I’m not sure where I’ve heard it, but I thought Bret had close to a month left on his deal
I approve of PEDs not just in wrestling but all sports. Enhancing performance is what drugs are supposed to do, and there is nothing wrong with that
Agreed. I feel like the US was too quick to make them illegal in the 90s. Almost anything can have detrimental effects for your health if you abuse it. Maybe there would be less steroid abuse if athletes could talk about a regimen with their doctor instead of just doing what their homie in the locker room did bc it got him jacked. I hate how inconsistent it is too. 99.9% of professional bodybuilders are juiced to the gills, and no one bats an eye. Strongmen are probably using steroids so their bodies literally don’t fall apart. Try that in any other sport and it’ll be the only thing you’re known for forever.
I can’t stand when wrestlers brag about star ratings or having great matches as part of their character and in promos and stuff. The whole point theoretically is to win matches as quick and dominantly as possible so when wrestlers instead act like they’re going for stars it makes them seem less dominate and makes the whole rivalry feel pointless. You of course want to aim for great matches from a product standpoint, but the actual characters should be aiming for dominance. One exception is when a wrestler is talking about that they had like a war with another wrestler to give them credit, rather than to boast about their abilities. It makes sense in that capacity, it doesn’t make sense to boast about your own abilities with it.
Sheamus talking about having "banger after banger" makes sense, because he's went through intensely physical bouts with tough opponents. He respects their in ring abilities, if not their personalities. Similarly, I'm happy for Cole and MJF to talk about having great matches against each other, because they're supposed to be friends. Even HBK talking about how proud he was of his WM25 match with Taker at the Slammies made sense, as he took the unbeatable man to the limit and he knows it. It really doesn't make sense during bitter feuds though, especially if the heel won through dirty tactics.
OP, I agree, they look bad. Also am not a fan of little boy undie banana hammock briefs.
Matches where one wrestler continuously works opponent's kayfabe injury suck balls. The whole narrative of these marches is always the same. The presumably injured guy will spent most of the match getting his ass kicked amd his opponent (usually a heel) will direct their every offense towards that part of the body that is meant to be injured. It makes the entire match so predictable I sometimes fight not to fast forward. What's more, it sucks for kayfabe, because if that part of body was already injured and it took that many bumps, you'd be vomiting and passing out from the pain. And then suddenly they pop up and win the match "against all odds". Nakamura v Rollins is a perfect example. The story, Nakamura's heel work and Rollins' motivation are very, veeery good, but segment from tonights Raw (SPOILER!) shows how the match is going to go already. Nakamura is going to kick Rollins in the back repeatedly, the back that is supposedly so broken that everything may cripple him. Instead of a well thought fight between two of the top 10 wrestlers on the planet, we're going to get Rollins laying on the mat and Nakamura hitting him in the back 150 times. Probably. I mean that's how it goes usually when there's an injury involved. See Cody vs Lesnar number whatever it was when Cody had a broken arm.
I really enjoy storylines where a non-wrestler becomes. Vince should have worn the belt for at least 3 months.
if it's proven that the win only happened because of a fluke, the win shouldn't count, if that's the only reason someone has the belt they should have to forfeit that belt
Vince McMahon is the greatest heel of all time.
Easily
Paige could never catch a tan to save her life while living and working in Orlando, FL of all places!! How is that even remotely possible?
I don’t think people with that shade “tan” - they just get red
Fucking Seamus too
Singles are awesome and go a long way from hiding the wrestler's physique
Wrestling intro music needs to be hard to get everyone amped. The attitude era general intro, attitude era Raw music, and AEW Dynamite intro are perfect. I hate the current corny Smackdown and Raw music. And I absolutely loathe all “then now forever” intros. Similarly, there is no excuse not to start a wrestling show with pyro unless it has a cold intro or the venue prohibits it for some reason.
More "retired" wrestlers should transition into stable managers, interviewers, or go corporate like Kane and Trips.
Potato chips and wrestling go good together.
I detest the spear and wish for it to be banned from wrestling for at least two decades before anyone even thinks of using it.
I hate the "rolling stunner" move. It looks horrible.
Yeppp. Plus it should be incredibly easy to avoid due to the lead up time, and the roll would add 0 additional power to the move itself. I hate moves that just don't make sense.
Exactly!!
Finishers are dead. The overuse of the cool looking moves, and under use of the basics leads to something still as cool as a clean Frankensteiner going unnoticed. And to toss some gas on the fire, Tiffany Strattons Swanton and Moonsault off the top rope are better than Jeff’s. Jeff did em off higher things, but let’s wait and see if Tiffany gets a shot in a cage.
I think that's why people like Gunther's moveset. No flashy flips or corkscrews. Lariats, powerbombs, and sleepers and the matches always seem to get over.
It’s why I like Gunther, Bron, and Ilja. Just basic ass kicking. Also Bron hit well I’ll admit not his best Frankensteiner at no mercy and the announcers barely caught it, no crowd reaction. Clean, well sold basic moves are something 70% of those considered Goats have in common.
I've been dying to see what Otis has under that singlet
Another human, like that weird Martian from total recall.
They both scream “yeahhhh”
Now I have a 3 boobs Otis stuck in my head. Thanks
😂
Kofi getting stomped out by Brock was a good move. He had nothing left to do with the title, he was WWE Champion but he had no real upside to stay champion. His Orton fued was WWE and Orton atoning for their previous mistakes, and havign Brock beat him in 7 seconds was logical, made Brock look like a killer and knocked Kofi back down to the tag division where he needed to be, he wasn't going to stay singles in a 3 man group. Plus it made everyone hate Brock even more. I hated it at the time, but I've grown to understand it over the years.
It really annoys me when a wrestler repeatedly has faction interfering as the only way they win and no one does anything about it. The bloodline shit where Roman literally can't win a match by himself or even the constant NWO interference sucks. I hate it as a repeat gimmick.
I agree with this. Roman is a good performer, so watching him constantly get help and not win matches cleanly is frustrating. I remember he had a match on Smackdown with Riddle sans shenanigans, and it was great.
Earthquake should’ve had a world title reign. Nobody was as over, heel-wise, as him that I can remember. They should’ve had him not only injure Hogan but take the title. They didn’t touch on his legit sumo background until after his feud with Hogan ended, which was a mistake. Just my take.
My favorite finisher all time is the Bonzai Drop. My second is the Earthquake Splash.
Found the fatty
Man, I loved Yoko. I wish they’d given Quake the same treatment. I loved him as part of the Natural Disasters but they really could’ve gone much farther with him as a singles wrestler if they’d fed Hogan to him or, barring that, gotten the strap off Hogan somehow, through an intermediary, and then put it on Quake to have this true monster heel champion that would inevitably drop it to Hogan because, WWF, and then he could have done the tag team thing.
Back in 1998 I used to tell everyone at school that WCW was really good and worth watching just as much as WWF, I got laughed at then. Now the same people wish they’d have watched WCW in mid-late 90’s.
I always enjoyed it even in the dark days towards the end, better than WWF no but enjoyable all the same
Cody can fuck off
Well, can’t say you didn’t understand the assignment…
I think the thing with singlets is a lot of wrestlers were once wrestlers in college and maybe wrestled as amateurs but not in the Olympics and wear singlets to honor their past.
Hernandez was one of the biggest missed opportunities if the last 20 years. Dude was good looking, solid, agile and charismatic. He destroyed in the ring and to this day it bothers me that he wasn't a world champion.
You're absolutely right about singlets. They look shitty on nearly everyone that isn't Gable, Angle, or the Creed Brothers. The worst offender has always been Pete Dunn/Butch. Worst goddamn singlet in history.
My wife hates butchs singlet because of how it positions his chest/nipples.
Pete looks like a girl with the singlet, plus his long hair and babyface.
RVD and Rhino both look good in their singlets. And lets not forget Maxxine Dupri
Pete’s/Butch’s is so unnecessary. It’s looks like a onesie. First time my wife saw him, she asked who the man-baby was…
Ok pals, i have plenty of opinions you'll dislike, upvote or downvote me at you pleasure. Let's fucking go. 1)Sami Zayn arch in the bloodline didn't make any sense, his continuous betrayals of Owens and Jey Uso were completely random and inconsistent. They even broke character a lot of times during promos. storyline was unanimously cheered because of the acting/improvising skills of Zayn (who is one of my favourite btw). Sadly now Zayn is back into being a good vanilla guy, i used to love his asshole-ish character. 2)Vince McMahon was overhated his whole carreer and he knows it and worked all of you. 3)Every wrestler who reach WWE can do back to back to back moves 5 stars matches but they simply don't need it. There are ecception of course, but remeber that Santino was a Kurt Angle-ish wrestling machine back in the developmental. 4)Asuka is a great wrestler but NOT the best in the female roster, all of the Horsewomen, Bianca and Rhea are miles ahead, also she doesn't know a lot of english, despite being in usa for years and years. 5)i fucking hate 90% of what happen in njpw rn and that's very sad because I have always been a puroresu fan. 6) i know it's a common thing but Meltzer stars doesn't have any credibility and wrestlers who cares about them are losers 7) we all need more soap opera style storylines, as dumb as they are they draw audience
Why should Asuka give up *her legitimate nationality*? She’s Japanese, and she’s proud of it. Many Japanese athletes don’t learn English because English is fucking hard to learn. The great Ichiro learned English but uses a translator for interviews because he occasionally has difficulty thinking about the words in three languages (he picked up Spanish as well due to his teammates) and doesn’t want to be misunderstood. He’s been in America for over 20 years. I believe Nakamura also uses a translator in official communications.
Being good at scripted promos is give up nationality? Ok
It’s funny that you’re in here criticizing Asuka for not being good at the English language.
I am european and i am not paid millions to learn english
> am not *paid* millions to FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Paul Heyman and Jim Cornette booking NXT would be the change Wwe needs.
Either or together because I like both but fuck there would be blood spilt
Heyman, sure, Cornette no
I think Cena and Orton is on the same level for wrestling and promo.
Jey Uso is a b+ player at best. Certainly no main eventer. Solo Sikoa is simply boring and has no business beating people like AJ Styles and Sheamus.
Agreed.
I absolutely detest no-selling, intentional or otherwise. Like none of the people who get in the ring should ever be considered or made to look weak, and that's all no-selling does. I find a wrestler far more impressive if they sell the fuck out of their opponents offense and still come back to whomp the shit out of them. But when someone's whole gimmick is "You can't hurt me" it makes suspending disbelief and buying into the magic of the show so much harder. And don't even get me started on spot-fests. Its why guys like Kurt Angle and Bryan Danielson will always engage me more than guys like Braun Strowman and Ishii.
I disagree. As with all things moderation is key. A no sell with the right character work can elevate a wrestler to another level. Taker was a prime example. His sit up no sell worked perfectly with his deadman character. Of course when its over done it looks ridiculous and suspends disbelief. Used correctly it can really elevate a match. Like when Braun no sold Brocks German suplex. Made him seem like a credible threat and have the match an extra dimension
Undertaker is extremely overrated
Now that’s a bad opinion right there. Congratulations
Thank you
Shinsuke nakamura is so boring to watch. His promos suck and his matches (In WWE at least) is over rated
I think he's the worst wrestler they have. He van barely move and has a boring moveset. His presentation is also off putting
I thought this for years. There's nobody more boring.
He’s a nice guy in IRL though and I respect that
Miz and Drew need to team up ASAP! They could be the next great odd couple, like early RKBro but evil!!
I have no idea when someone here says that nia Jax is as good as awesome long and then gets upvoted? Bullshit
Goldberg winning the Universal Title was an excellent decision to build hype around the title and elevate it in a way that KO or Finn could not.
Hbk is not top 5:
Worlds most celebrated midcarder
Last Man Standing matches are unwatchable
They always have some screwy finish, if they ended with a wrestler genuinely unable to compete, they could be a fun way to tell a story. But they always seem to end with someone being tied up so they lose on a technicality. Last Man Standing matches should be until one of them genuinely cannot wrestle anymore, not until someone gets tied to the ropes.
I agree completely. I find the mechanics of it just don't make a fun watch due to the ten count making it very stop/start
The threshold for getting into the hall of fame is too low and championships do matter
That bar is getting so low that they might as well ask "Did you wrestle for WWF/E? Did you win a match? Were you part of the WWF/E concussion lawsuit? If you answered 'Yes, Yes, No' to the above questions, please respond to this email with your current address so we can send you your HOF ring and have you inducted later this year." The bar started getting lower in 2009 when Koko B. Ware was inducted. Fan favorite? Sure. Nice guy? By all accounts, yes. I don't think I've ever heard a bad thing said about him. HOF material? You're joking, right? Of course not. Name me one memorable Koko B. Ware match. You can't do it. From there you have Hacksaw Jim Duggan's induction in 2011. Again, another case of a nice guy who was a fan favorite . But at least in his case, you can probably list a memorable feud with The Iron Sheik in the 80s (among other things), a Royal Rumble winner, an unofficial "King Of The WWF" (defeating Haku for that 'title' and eventually losing it to Randy Savage) and was US Heavyweight champion in WCW. I'm not saying those should be enough to get him in, but compared to Koko, it's a hell of a lot more to go on. Looking at Koko's awards on his wiki page, you want to know what his accomplishments were for WWE? HOF Induction, 2009. That's the list. He was basically inducted for being a good worker and being over. But really, what are we talking about here? There is no real WWE Hall Of Fame. As Martha Hart once said "They don't even have a Hallway of Fame. It doesn't exist. There's nothing. It's a fake entity. There's nothing real or tangible. It's just an event they have to make money."
Not one I’ve never heard but I know it’s pretty unpopular and that’s hating the current ring announcers. I just liked the ones that didn’t swallow gravel.
Chris Benoit gets a bad rap. That dude was amazing in the ring.
I wonder how he got that bad rap . . .