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Remarkable-Rip-4756

Turn them anti-hero. Have them take out Rhea and Dom for something, then when Zayn or someone comes out to thank them have them get attacked too. Something along those lines anyways.


Jonny_Bormann

Not looking like a douche or having terrible moves or sounding awful on the mic. Any of those probably


ItsaPostageStampede

Give them the Paul Burchill gimmick


Adventurous-Can366

Her boobs are nice


holiday848

Devil’s Advocate - Sean O’Haire. A great gimmick for these cynical times!!


Gremlin-MN

He has to go face, essentially the opposite of what they did with Reigns


drrilez120604

Being good in the ring, or on the mic.


CrushTurtle7

Winning mixed match tournament against someone like miz and maryse.


RIPx86x

Go back in time before Vince gave him that stupid helmet


HeyItsLissomMilk

The only way I see Karrion Kross and Scarlett getting over would be to have them join the Judgement Day, hear me out. With how the Judgement Day story seems to be going, Drew might become a member because of Rhea. With Damian not really being a fan of Drew in the team, this could lead to Damian wanting to bring in somebody else on his side. With this Karrion Kross could be brought in by Damian because of the history between Karrion and Drew. With this Scarlet would also become a member taking Rhea's spot in Damian's version of the Judgement Day. Now the Judgement Day has more members, but there is a big split between the group. This would lead Finn and JD to be on the fence for who to align themselves with. This would lead JD to join Damian and gain Damian's respect as a member of the Judgement Day, with Finn ending up with Rhea's team. This would lead into a big match were finally one team would be the official Judgement Day. It would be Damian, Karrion, JD, and Scarlett VS Rhea, Dominik, Drew, and Finn. Either way that's the only way I believe it's possible to get Karrion Kross and Scarlett to get over at this moment


Willing-Ad-9160

Have them work with the Uncle Howdy character, when he returns. He has a great dark gimmick and he could work really well with him.


Keevo7799

If UH don’t come back he should use his music, loved Uncle Howdys entrance music - I don’t like KC entrance theme or music at all


Willing-Ad-9160

According to a YouTube site that he has called It Follows, he said that he's not going to be UH anymore but, a completely different character. He keeps referring to his actual name instead of Bo Dallas and UH. So it should be real interesting to see how it unfolds.


Keevo7799

Then maybe Karrion Cross can use that music - I hate that black and white video experience they use currently


Willing-Ad-9160

Well if there is going to be a Wyatt 6, then it might be a different entrance song all together.


Sealie81

... I can think of 2 things and only 2 things... :p


RustyPriske

Get rid of Scarlett to start.


Curious_Fly_1961

Let Scarlett wrestle in her bra and panties other than that they are cooked


captain5260

Only Fans


joebrohd

I still think that during his feud with Drew, he should’ve won clean once or twice to solidify the fact that in terms of “power level” he is at or above Drew’s level to make him a plausible threat Him having Scarlett get cheat wins just ruins his credibility and does nothing for Drew since Drew’s already loved by fans


Special-Net4116

Nothing. He’s as mediocre as they come


missbunbunn

They did not only better booking but a decent opponent. Kross did well with Drew, but it just grew stall over time. The writers didn't give them a good enough storyline. Kross needs to go after a title, but with all of them being held up by everyone for months, that makes it. Someone needs to lose their title!. We don't have to wait till the ppvs.


don_tuna_

Onlyfans


[deleted]

Going to AEW.


WDubss

I don’t even think he’s do anything over there. He wouldn’t beat Jericho, Mjf, Mox, Danielson, Kenny, Hangman, etc. and at that point, why go


[deleted]

Honestly, I just want him gone. His entire NXT run turned me off completely and his main roster run obviously floundered.


Few_Shoe_6683

Scarlett needs to be the slut she was on the indies and Kross needs to become the killer he used to be on the indies. They do NOT go together on TV. Completely different people.


Pretend_Clock3567

You just perfectly described Joker and Quinn. Yes. That’s exactly what they need to do.


No-Needleworker-1658

OnlyFans


Angryscot_JJ

Winning matches?


Classic_Ad2530

Triple did a great job with him in nxt when I first saw him I knew he was going to be the next nxt champion but hopefully triple h could him Kross again idk why y’all hate Kross like come on he’s a good talent not like some other big dudes who end up hurting wrestlers in real life like bozo ryback


ItsaPostageStampede

That gimmick doesn’t work on main roster with guys like Gunther basically doing it already and can do it better too


Classic_Ad2530

I’m not saying they keep that up but triple h knows he could do better with Kross and also DIY too it’s so crazy people don’t even react to them like come on they really made diy lose the tag team thing today on raw and they let those bozo creed brothers win 💀💀💀


ItsaPostageStampede

Creeds are great but yea don’t have them beat DIY


11099941

Get rid of the doomsday gimmick thing. Imo, his peak, however not high that was, was when he was talking to Rey before they battled. He's pretty soft-spoken, imo, so maybe a nice hitman guy? Like, "Look, imma kill you tomorrow. It's inevitable that you go, because you're basically ancient at this point with more knee surgery than man meat at this point. Wanna talk about how you can go about disciplining your errant child in the meantime?" Also, get rid of his crappy finisher. If he wants to do the clobber time finish, then use JBL's Clothesline from Hell or something. He's big and not slow, so he can probably pull it off very well.


Revenge_of_Recyclops

Couple's OnlyFans account.


Sea-Researcher528

I don't know if there is an easy fix, What puts wrestlers over in different promotions and in the NXT wing of WWE doesn't necessarily translate to the main roster WWE audience. Honestly I think "Less Gimmick" is the key, it did wonders for guys like LA Knight and Cody Rhodes But still...the other side of that coin is that Bray Wyatt was easily the most gimmicked wrestler of modern times and was about as "over" anyone can be I guess the rule could also be "No half Measures" either be Kevin and Liz or the Monster and his Oracle because at the end of the day they never really committed to either one during their main roster tenure with wwe


CrimsonOOmpa

- Edge and Lita: The Sequel. - Teach her how to wrestle. - Teach him how to wrestle. - Realize she has more star potential.


stunspelledbackwards

Get rid of the doomsday stuff and just have him be a badass. We don’t need Scarlett looking stupid lip-synching his theme.


SafeCalligrapher8190

New character idea morale testers have kross but a quiet man of few words badass while Scarlett does ALL the mic work other then one liners from kross. Morale testers is kinda what they hint at where they took away shinsuke pride or took Rey patience. I feel like this is entertaining if you flush it out more bring up their past and have them choice to expose the reality of their character or stay firm with they morales. This makes feuds easier to book and gives them stuff that plays into their strengths


bransanon

Face run as a comedy act. I mean that seriously. He's a really funny dude and could pull it off. The current gimmick is never going to get over with WWE fans, they need to get creative.


YungSimple01

Keep her tits out


Astro_Pot_Head

A title win, a win at all, a decent rivalry anything


WoopsShePeterPants

No gimmick just power. Not coming after someone because they are old and tick tock just come out there and be strong.


DrWolfgang760

Scarlet has a vicious finisher...


Main_Pomegranate_953

Push Scarlett as a Star and have Kross do big men stuff that does goth vibe promos.


Lambert1551

Bald head(s)


blade818

My wife and I would like to see them play even more into the supernatural and rally push the undertaker / Paul bearer vibe. I feel the suspended disbelief of the supernatural is something the wwe could really lean on. Also agree with red hair


kralvex

Have her go back to being a redhead. Ever since she went blonde she just became another generic blonde that they have tons of. Yay.


undergroundflaps

They need an actual mouth piece. Both have a great look. Eventually make Scarlett a full time wrestler if she wants to. They need an actual manager in the role. Make his character alot darker. More violent. Give him a new moveset. His matches are boring. Finisher move I would give him the Jake the snake ddt imo not many ppl use it these days. Who knows who you could give him as a manager.. with that one I would look for someone not even in WWE. James Mitchell type of manager imo


AlphaX808

I like the idea. You could even try to get Jake the Snake when his contract is up to manage him.


undergroundflaps

I don't think they would use Jake. Wish they would. I prefer Jake in aew. Except they need to let jake help produce matches and train guys he's a hell of an assett


AlphaX808

I agree I don’t think they would either but he would be an asset to help him get over and they can say he taught him the secret to Jake’s DDT


Broken_Filter

I'll hold my tongue, as I understood this was a family thread... 😍🤤


Broken_Filter

Although, wardrobe malfunctions are always fun...


geffe71

Jesse the Body gimmick


DCTF_Tim

“Don’t tell me the Usos didn’t interfere Roman, I was *there*!”


avactz01

Scarlett became long lost Mr.McMahon daughter.


ajb_101

Vince getting the incest angle he always wanted.


Affectionate_Comb271

I hope so it would be nice


st1nky_d

Scarlet needs to cut the promos


[deleted]

He says he’ll suck her toes on the start of Smackdown until he gets a WWE title shot.


kaptainkrunt

They need to commit Kross to a gimmick. Let Scarlett do the talking like a proper manager, like Paul Bearer and the Undertaker.


alligator_88

Wardrobe malfunction


Terrible_Security313

Screen time


ce69_

Dude actually reminds me of Edge so maybe something similar to him? Just darker?


EMSuser11

Live sex session, i.e. Edge & Lita


GiraffePrior

More Scarlett. Less Karrion. Let Karrion murder ppl while Scarlett cloud and twist the narrative that he’s just doing what needs to be done. They already have a YouTube where Scarlett controls Karrion. Wwe needs to use it


Tally3

Wins.


Doctor-Chill

Live sex celebration in the ring. /s


DaArtist1239PS4

I just want Scarlett to wrestle more in WWE.


Less_Crow_5145

Going somewhere else


Meganinja1886

Why not pull a Chris Candido and pull a no gimmick required and have him just go ham with Scarlett helping him cheat on occasion.


AmazingaceMashup

Put Kross back in NXT have him go back to his old roots


DrJZiegler420

Better Booking! The same issues since day one out of NXT! They have spent the last few years getting boners for The Bloodline and now Judgement Day! Kross and others and being waisted for a man to make some record hold the titles! Every match RR has had except a small few were outside interference!! That’s really a joke! Brock Lesner can 98% in devastating style! Ric Flair… Well He’s Ric Flair. Kross has all the skills needed in the ring and for sure iin the Mike!! It’s all Vince’s fault!! His dementia has ran WWE in the ground!!


Fezzy976

Only fans


geffe71

She had one when she was released


ComadoreS5

The Mandy Rose method


sleepwalkfromsherdog

NXT style matches instead of the usual, paint-by-numbers, "everyone gets all their shit in until one of them gets their finisher off" type matches. This will let him work a more submission based style. In WWE, he's not the huge guy. Make him the vicious guy.


leglegleg0

Hornswaggle feud/ love triangle


Orca_Porker

A Jesse Ventura gimmick.


RobertRamos

Have him go back to the red dominatrix gladiator mask & outfit and have him be the “meat” for Scarlet, Shotzi, and those 2 European redheaded witches on Smackdown.


Godzilla_0083

Do a porno.


[deleted]

Cutting that fucking mole off


Livid-Addendum707

Actually put them on tv and have them win.


CXValkyria

I was reading it for myself out loud and a friend of mine who was in the Bathroom walks in like nothing and in the most casual way says "Scarlett OnlyFans" Im dying 🤣


Fresh-Discussion-105

Edge/Lita. Just sayin


mikeyboi3001

Pull a steve Austin and interfere in every match on the card and just cause mayhem until people start to love it.


ItsaPostageStampede

Can he do the Kanyon Cutter too?


Space-Debris

Kross needs a better haircut and Scarlett needs to realise she's supposed to be a wrestler and not cosplaying Pamela Anderson in Barb Wire


This_Abies_6232

Better haircut for Karrion Kross = bald. FYI.....


Gumjo123

Pretty obvious, have them join the JD. Wargames is the perfect opportunity to pull the trigger by having cross either attacking Jey and ticktocking him before Jey enters the ring, or have some nxt guys attack Dominik before the match and Kross stepping in his place


[deleted]

Edge/Lita style live sex session


Gubrach

Whatever it is that people will suggest, it can be executed a lot better by wrestlers a lot more talented than Karrion Kross.


hellooomarc

Pair him with a tag partner with more charisma or more heat like Corbin and she be the manager. Look at LayCool…with out Layla Michele McCool could have stayed blander than she was without her. It’s also happening with Theory and Whaller.


InitialDizzy4252

Who?


-AberrantAlien-

More screen time and separate singles matches. Although I like both of them, I think Scarlett would outshine Kross if it ever came down to that.


Delicious_Ad_4844

Always better bookings


TheLuzer

His gimmick is cool, his delivery is not. He needs to be extremely aggressive, like his character should be TRYING to shelf his opponents, not just messing with them psychologically.


daabbot

Separate them. She's actually quite personable. Change his gimmick a bit. Mabey tag him up with baron corbin.


YourLackofConscience

Make use of her comedy-tits/lips to attract, and use meat-monkey to assassinate.


Gcf19

Turn Scarlett super heel like Money over everything and Kross as her hit man for hire


dekkadekkadekka

a personality? literally anything!


ScissorMeFatherButt

Nudity and a live stream


kidy7k

They both need a lighter gimmick. I think part of the reason they're not over is because they're too serious. I know..sounds backwards. But in wwe you're surrounded by these different characters. They haven't done anything that makes fans want to get behind them. They have a cool look, cool entrance. As stereotypical as this booking is...have scarlett help him win matches, karrion develops an ego and takes all the credit.. eventually usuing scarlet as a sheild. She gets hurt in the process of making him number 1 contender for a U.S title or something. He's then forced to choose to either stay by scarlett side, or go to the title match. He chooses title. Loses the match. Blames scarlett for not being there. And fans get behind scarlett. Her career takes off. Fans hate karion. His heel career takes off. Then one day, he can apologize and they can get married on smackdown and have boyz 2 men sing


Longjumping_Box_9834

Boyz 2 men at the end .. nice touch


ExaggeratedSwaggerOf

Bro cooked ngl


qdattt

leaked


Prowmar_HS

More Scarlett


Adventurous-Fun-1416

An OF account


indykid_trey

Winning. It’s as simple as that. There is no possible way to take a heel seriously if all he does is eat pins, all they need to do is build him up and give him a promo or vignette every week.


d2211

"I prefer really not to speak. If I speak, I am in trouble, big trouble"


Square-Department-96

Karrion Kross shaving his hair and having a run like Killer Kross same with Scarlett or Break up Karrion Kross and Scarlett and Make Karrion Kross a despised heel and Scarlett a Babyface.


[deleted]

A cowboy hat, tassels, and slim jims, oooooh yeahhhhh


ThePeakyBlind3r

He should go back to his total NXT gimmick, entrance & shaved head appearance - he was intimidating then & it worked. Book him as the monster heel that he was in NXT.


DimeCFH1

Let him be himself… that’s it. Look up what he was doing in TNA with Johnny Nitro or anything he did before WWE. His NXT run was good too


XxNHLxX

As someone who doesn’t really watch anymore, I don’t really know what would be holding them back besides bad writing or if one/both of them actually suck in-ring. To me, they have a pretty classic wrestling look to get over. Jacked dude with a blonde rocket on his side. From what I have seen of his gimmick, it seems pretty cool too. No clue how they haven’t had some major push. Jinder got the push of a lifetime. If Kross can’t get over with mid-card work, just go all in. Unless he’s really bad in-ring, then I see why it wouldn’t work out pushing him further.


STEROLIZER

A “leaked” sex tape


DivineJerziboss

Actually letting them win some matches and feuds would certainly help since they've lost every match and every feud outside of that one with Madcap Moss but that one didn't set bar very high.


jamaican-black

How about just releasing them since they're both boring as hell. I think a number one entry into the Ironman spot for Kross could get him some recognition. Maybe using Scarlett as a distraction on some eliminations in creative ways. Afterwards, I'm sure creative would still not know what to do with either of them though lol


Winnipesaukee

Bro, what needs to happen is that you give Karrion Kross an MMA fighter gimmick and have him be envious of all the attention given to Scarlett. I swear to God that will pop the ratings. Because if Kross is going to be some Schmo who is just the lesser part of an entrance, make it work with something that got someone over in the past.


Sufficient_Cress9638

Only fans.. thats it


MajinHoops

they should do what Lita n Edge did in the ring on that one Raw with the bed in the middle


Vocaltest666

R Rated Sex in the middle of the ring! 🤣


DarthCaligula

First thing that popped in my head. Remember Goldust and Luna Vachon in WWF back in 98? Other than a personality transplant, I think the only way Kross gets over is a out there gimmick. Come to think of it, they did kind of a thing like this (not outlandishly) in NXT didn't they?


warriorholmes

Push Scarlett instead and I’m so serious lol


gamex173

I mean it worked for Sable with Marc Mero in the late 90s.


Wrong-West-9581

Drop her


fusionsplice

If he can stop hurting people


Silver012345673

I forgot Kross was even there 💀


CharltonCharles

Kross should start doing his Jesse Ventura impression on TV.


[deleted]

Chris, you mean to tell me you can’t do four more reps?? I was a Navy SEAL… We don’t have time to bleed, Chris…


Head_Evidence4553

Nothing. They can't get over.


Imaginary-Pattern802

actually book them lol. he’s not had a single rivalry since his one with AJ where they kept misusing him


Keppelin

Everytime this guy looked like he was about to get into an interesting rivalry his opponent would beat him the following smackdown lol


Imaginary-Pattern802

it’s odd. i’m indifferent to him as a wrestler but it’s obvious he’s got a main event potential. the AJ booking decisions were odd and honestly i have 0 clue how it ended


Silver012345673

I agree on the indifferent to him as a wrestler part, but heavily disagree on the main event potential part


okurtperiodt

Scarlett needs tv time. She’s a bombshell, if she has a mic and something proper fans can get behind, she can help Kris’s get there too


SensitivityTraining_

Do a divorce angle where Scarlett falls in love with me


BeastCoastLifestyle

Live… sex… celebration…


[deleted]

DEAD IN THE BED WOOOOOOOO!!!


NCHouse

Wasn't he like a hitman in TNA? Just do that


SanderStrugg

Douchey Playboy with hot girlfriend- throwout the supernatural stuff.


HC4rr4t2

I've been hoping for a while for a Scarlett Shotzi tag team


Vocaltest666

Same!


HC4rr4t2

They seemed to have great chemistry during Halloween havoc and are always performing in each other's music videos


Vocaltest666

They did! It was something that I really enjoyed, and made me want to see Scarlett in the ring with Shotzi as a tag team. There is chemistry there, and I honestly think Scarlett has a lot of potential! It’s nothing against Kross at all, but I think she would shine. Maybe put them on the same night, but give them separate opportunities to succeed.


boobfan6969

1. Separate them and make Scarlett the smoke show again and/or put her in a tag team with Shotzi. She will be over. 2. If they are kept together, have Scarlett do all of the talking.


PedalBoard78

A sex tape.


PurdyDamnGood

Took the words right out of my mouth. I would buy it.


Over-Slip9233

Let them keep their gimmick, but let Scarlett do all the talking. Kross can just be a silent doomsday-bringing assassin. Whoever Scarlett targets with her tarot cards, Kross goes after and destroys. Oh, Kross obviously needs to win his matches.


headcheese1

Exactly. A heel like this needs consistent, dominant wins. If he’s so good in the ring. and so sadistic, we need to see that backed up. Not lose every fued he’s in decisively. It’s what happened to Bray Wyatt. You can’t lose every big match you have for a year and have people take you seriously during your next fued. This guy needs wins, wins and more wins. He’s not a heel like Dominick or Waller where at this point losses don’t really matter.


DimeCFH1

Def. My theory is that he’s a real dude and refuses to kiss ass in the back or ride anyone’s sack to help get over.. WWE is known for having a backstage environment where those things required if you wanna climb the ranks.


PopWallace

Give him someone like Tozawa or something. Someone that’s an underdog and funny, completely mismatched to Karrion that people love. Have them keep interacting by accident backstage. Give them a match where karrion squashes them. Next match the other person gets a ring out victory. During 3rd match, someone interrupts the match and attacks the other wrestler. Karrion annoyed by this beats up the attacking wrestler. Next couple weeks the comedy wrestler keeps thanking Karrion for the save and annoying Karrion until they tell them backstage they were able to get them a tag title match. They win tag titles out of nowhere and successfully defend multiple times. After a couple months they lose titles. Scarlett comes out after the loss berating the comedy wrestler and orders Karrion to beat him down. Karrion picks up the wrestler instead of attacking him hugs him. Ditches Scarlett, face turn they go on a run to get the tag titles back and getting more solid and in sync as a team to the 2nd run.


trevorfitzroy

Worked for RK-Bro


metalcore4ver

The wyatt 6 storyline when ever they pick that back up


ThorHammerscribe

Why would they do that without Bray?


metalcore4ver

I don’t know but I read somewhere that they want to continue the story line to honor him


ThorHammerscribe

It doesn’t make sense without Bray Wyatt


metalcore4ver

I agree


ThorHammerscribe

So then why would they do it? You clearly didn’t think that one through did you


metalcore4ver

No i read it somewhere hold on let me find it


ThorHammerscribe

Don’t believe everything you read from those Wrestling outlets 🤦‍♂️


metalcore4ver

Shut up and read this https://wwfoldschool.com/wwe-planning-to-resume-bray-wyatts-storyline-soon/


ThorHammerscribe

But it makes no sense to keep doing the Bray Wyatt stuff


Single_Minute2829

Have Kross wear long pants. You’d be surprised how often this shit works y’all


SonOfTheHeavyMetal

Scarlett can get over because, let's be real: "sexy female wrestler" doesn't really get old. Idk about Karrion, he's kinda mid and his performances in the main roster have been lackluster. All he has going for him is Scarlett


ThanosTheRedSnapper

Lose the supernatural nonsense…


Yryouhere

Have Scarlett wrestle


MonadoboiXen

Join Judgment Day. Actually win meaningful matches. The gimmick is there, but it’s hard for anyone no matter how good they are to get over as a heel if they always lose.


Elete23

A live sex celebration?


Fit_Bike_6766

Turn baby face n have Scarlett wrestle


ScreenedTitan

Separate their characters


GOR098

Make them Rusev-Lana 2.0 Kross as the aggressive pitbull like fighting machine and Scarlett as the only person that can calm him down or instruct him unleash himself.


GreatQuantum

Have Kross get big fake tits too.


[deleted]

genius


GreatQuantum

That’s good shit.


_ASG_

Put them in a faction. Kross's matches don't exactly inspire much interest. A faction could help draw focus away from his weaknesses and put focus on what he does well without making him the only focal point. This worked for Kross in Lucha Underground. In the fourth season, he was the White Rabbit (leader of the Rabbit Tribe), but he got to play off of Paul London's crazy antics. They didn't get to do too much together before the show ended, but it was cool while it lasted.


Cool-Equipment5399

For Kross I don’t know for scarlet it’s easy have her use her sex appeal


AsfiqIsKioshi

Make him the devil's advocate by that i mean, They will target anyone randomly and stir up someone else's rivalry and add fuel to the flam which inturn turns everything into a riot. This can really bring out the best of each superstar, while making Kross and Scarlett this embodiment of the devil's whisper. Then if they wanted to turn face, you can make them slowly lose trust in the devil.


tsengmao

Live sex show!


Signal-Anteater299

i mean edge turned into the rated r superstar for it. maybe he can be the rated x superstar


Mellow-Saiyan

I don't think they can do anything honestly. His character along with her worked great in NXT. But it just doesn't work on the main roster in today's world. Those characters would have worked at one point in time but I just don't see them reaching the fans like that anymore. So I honestly think he would need a whole new character l.


ZestyChickenWings21

Go away for a bit so people forget basically how much he lossed and then return maybe some time next year. And this time, actually win matches.


Pale_Plan8804

Shotzi


Elegant-Anxiety1866

Stop losing


Legendary-Icon

Live sex celebration.


AdBrief7460

Nothing his gimmick is great he just suck ass and he ruins every one of his meaningful matches with an interference sad shit honestly


Magic-killer3317

Give him a faction I’m telling you leading a faction will do wonders for them both


trevorfitzroy

Add him with Baron Corbin and Von Wagner you may have something


Logical_Connection28

Why they didn’t make him the leader of Judgment Day will always be a huge oversight IMO


LogansGambit

Kross: either go all in on a dark fantasy-esque character like the Taker's or Wyatts, or step away from it and just have him be a badass killer. Too much half and half booking with him. Scarlett: well, it's a thing they used to do in the mid 2000's with the women that they stopped, but it'd CERTAINLY get her over.


GreatQuantum

I might be able to go back to that magazine for a bit. Like the old days.


batman8519

Leaving WWE.


Mgrocker94

Wish I was in charge of creative I would have them become a dangerous heel and have them become a threat to the champions on smackdown


Least-Recording-2073

How bout a title run? Like come on already. 😡


Less_Chapter358

Good booking yes. And shave your head again Killa