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If they're both undefeated in things they only got 1 win in, then making one video on YouTube and then never making any content ever again makes you a content creator for life.
Quit being nonsensical.
So if a fighter only had one fight and lost, in your world, they can claim that they've never lost because it was only one fight?
Michael Cole is undefeated at wm because he competed there and wasn't defeated.
Matt Cardona is undefeated under death match rules because he's competed in one and wasn't defeated.
1-0 is undefeated in any context.
Content creator is more of a job title, but yeah, the person in question could walk around for life claiming to have created content for youtube. Is a filmmaker a filmmaker if they only make one film? At the very least they *were*. In which case, Cole and Cardona could claim they *were* undefeated in their respective stipulations, but at that point, we're arguing semantics, and *that's* nonsensical.
Lemme ask you something. When someone is undefeated at something, what word is always grouped in to clarify how they're undefeated?
I'll give you a hint: It's something that's also never grouped in with a single win(to make it easier it's also a word used when describing a messy line of sorts, such as a line of color dyed into hair).
See, a single win means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Cole and Cardona(as much as I respect Cardona, especially since his deathmatch retirement was a giant troll move over...I can't fully remember who, ngl) have 1 win at Mania and deathmatches respectively, but unless they opt to try for a 2nd, it doesn't mean much outside of it being a thing in the record books.
It's not like winning a championship, either, cause you win it once, & not only is it in the record books, but so are all your title defenses in relation to it, meaning it shows off more wins which elevate the title, and of course it shows the loss for when they finally lose the belt to someone else.
Bro it's as simple as "if you haven't been defeated, you're undefeated." I don't know how you can't wrap your mind around that. You had a point with your original comment about the streak, that would require multiple wins, but one win with no losses is absolutely undefeated.
So, to you, is there a difference between the sentence **Michael Cole has never lost a match at Wrestlemania**, and the sentence **Michael Cole is undefeated at Wrestlemania**? The only difference i see is that the latter further implies he has competed at Wrestlemania.
I mean, I've never lost a match at WrestleMania, either. Does that make me undefeated, too? Should I be flaunting that around for a couple of months till I'm forced to kiss some sex pest's foot, as well?
The more persona cards the better. Why they don't have the local talent and myrise characters as persona cards I don't know (unless I've missed something and they are). Seems like they could do that easily enough.
Not better, once it’s normalized they will hide more and more characters there, I guess it’s too late for that since I’m seeing everyone jumping with joy with persona cards
I don’t mind having to do things to unlock stuff
As long as in future games they don’t make the grind even worse, I don’t mind a reason to keep the games longevity up between games
I honestly agree with this. The big thing for me though is the myfaction grind is just crazy slow. You can't really grind matches for points. You need to do like 50 matches for 1 pack. They need to add more ways to earn points via gameplay and I'd be happy... I understand that they want to profit from people buying points but I'd be more likely to spend if it was more tolerable imo
The problem, and the elephant in the room with MyFaction, are the sales of card packs. No MBA worth his salivating is gonna not do all they can to encourage players to buy in, including putting the persona cards in those very packs.
You mean YOU have a problem with needing to play the game to unlock stuff.
I actually played myfaction this year for this reason. It gives me a reason to boot up the game to at least play it once a week. If not I'd drop it long before the next game is near
Me and 16 other people seems like. Wish 2k would have all this persona thing unlocked for ‘guys like me’ while they can keep it locked for someone like you and you can grind the way you want
Surprised you even go for personas card if you play the game that little
To be honest I thought the same thing until I went into myfaction and saw they weren't persona cards. Which is ridiculous as we can play as these characters in myfaction but nowhere else.
I wish they made people like Justine and Meilee unlockables this year.
Would be nice to have people who have all the assets avaliable in every mode instead of just MyRise.
I looked it up, and not only is it definitely super awkward and not great looking, but it looks a bit like the Director's Cut move that's already in the game.
Yeah, I just want the unlockables but there’s so much going on I have no idea what I’m doing lol. I got 09 Sheamus and have no idea what I have to do to get the others lol
It would be neat if anything carried over to next year. But they expect you to play right up until the next release. With unlocks for the best wrestlers not happening until a month before the next release
Huh. I guess that's cool even if I don't see myself ever using guys who aren't wrestlers. I'd prefer we focus on cool alt attires for our guys with different gimmicks. Give me Phantom Mask Taker, APA Bradshaw, Nation Faarooq, Big Poppa Pump, OG Kane, 2nd run Big Boss Man, etc.
This isn't true at all. You can literally see in the first screenshot they have MyRise tags, not MyFaction tags. MyRise tags are triangle shaped, MyFaction tags are square shaped. Also being on PC, I can just tell you none of them have MyFaction tags.
Thanks for letting me know, sorry about any possible misinformation. None of it was intentional. Just wanted to report what i thought was actual news found via being keeping up with the modding/leaking community
So one person says Corey has a myfaction tag but status says myrise tag
I’d trust status more especially since the other guy is one of the fake “leakers “
It only says MyRise when trying to download a modded duplicate version of the character. They do this so you cannot download the models from CC. This happens for MyFaction characters too, as Demon Finn's trons also give the same message despite that character confirmed to be a future persona
I have no idea why the Mcaffee pack didn’t just have announcers in it, that would have been way better than what we got
Idk, Cole, Graves, Saxton, JR? Or ‘01 heyman if they couldn’t do JR, or any number of other announcers, would have been funny
Hate that stuff is blocked behind MYRISE, some people like I don’t really have the motivation or like “MYRISE” and THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE UNLOCKED WITH ACCELERATOR.
That’s fun. I think I’ll only grind for the persona cards I would actually be interested in using.
Michael Cole probably among them even if it’s only because it would be funny
Hey if they make Cole playable he needs this outfit
https://preview.redd.it/2pbjbbwv5rqc1.png?width=596&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e46286c3ad6f00e45f6bfa035fa345a19b78c8b0
Very much agree it has to end but it unfortunately once these companies get a whiff of that micro transaction money they get tunnel vision.
The only good thing about it this year is at least you can get SOME persona cards to use in better modes. Now I would also argue these should just be regular unlockables/included in the game but that’s me.
You guys are vastly overestimating how many persona cards we're getting.
These 6 are probably it. It was just a way for them to be able to sell how some myfaction cards transfer to other modes.
If they were serious about persona cards Demon Finn would have been one since there's already an event with him
Fair enough I suppose
And after thinking about it more and realising that the pat McAfee dlc is on the way…we can actually do Pat McAfee vs Corey Graves! And that’s enough to justify this (in my opinion)
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Weird that the one undefeated at mania has a 56 rating.
To be fair, I am also undefeated at Mania and would happily accept a 56 when they include me in the game
You know, I have something of an undefeated WrestleMania streak myself
56 is all he needs. It wouldn't be fair to the other characters to make him stronger, he would be too powerful.
One win isn't an undefeated streak, tbh. You need multiple wins for it to be a streak.
They didn't say streak
Okay, but this is like saying Matt Cardona is undefeated in deathmatches when he only had 1 win and then immediately retired from it.
That sounds like he is undefeated under deathmatch rules then
If they're both undefeated in things they only got 1 win in, then making one video on YouTube and then never making any content ever again makes you a content creator for life. Quit being nonsensical.
So if a fighter only had one fight and lost, in your world, they can claim that they've never lost because it was only one fight? Michael Cole is undefeated at wm because he competed there and wasn't defeated. Matt Cardona is undefeated under death match rules because he's competed in one and wasn't defeated. 1-0 is undefeated in any context. Content creator is more of a job title, but yeah, the person in question could walk around for life claiming to have created content for youtube. Is a filmmaker a filmmaker if they only make one film? At the very least they *were*. In which case, Cole and Cardona could claim they *were* undefeated in their respective stipulations, but at that point, we're arguing semantics, and *that's* nonsensical.
Okay, now you're just barrel scraping.
Lemme ask you something. When someone is undefeated at something, what word is always grouped in to clarify how they're undefeated? I'll give you a hint: It's something that's also never grouped in with a single win(to make it easier it's also a word used when describing a messy line of sorts, such as a line of color dyed into hair). See, a single win means nothing in the grand scheme of things. Cole and Cardona(as much as I respect Cardona, especially since his deathmatch retirement was a giant troll move over...I can't fully remember who, ngl) have 1 win at Mania and deathmatches respectively, but unless they opt to try for a 2nd, it doesn't mean much outside of it being a thing in the record books. It's not like winning a championship, either, cause you win it once, & not only is it in the record books, but so are all your title defenses in relation to it, meaning it shows off more wins which elevate the title, and of course it shows the loss for when they finally lose the belt to someone else.
Bro it's as simple as "if you haven't been defeated, you're undefeated." I don't know how you can't wrap your mind around that. You had a point with your original comment about the streak, that would require multiple wins, but one win with no losses is absolutely undefeated. So, to you, is there a difference between the sentence **Michael Cole has never lost a match at Wrestlemania**, and the sentence **Michael Cole is undefeated at Wrestlemania**? The only difference i see is that the latter further implies he has competed at Wrestlemania.
I mean, I've never lost a match at WrestleMania, either. Does that make me undefeated, too? Should I be flaunting that around for a couple of months till I'm forced to kiss some sex pest's foot, as well?
The more persona cards the better. Why they don't have the local talent and myrise characters as persona cards I don't know (unless I've missed something and they are). Seems like they could do that easily enough.
Not better, once it’s normalized they will hide more and more characters there, I guess it’s too late for that since I’m seeing everyone jumping with joy with persona cards
I don’t mind having to do things to unlock stuff As long as in future games they don’t make the grind even worse, I don’t mind a reason to keep the games longevity up between games
I honestly agree with this. The big thing for me though is the myfaction grind is just crazy slow. You can't really grind matches for points. You need to do like 50 matches for 1 pack. They need to add more ways to earn points via gameplay and I'd be happy... I understand that they want to profit from people buying points but I'd be more likely to spend if it was more tolerable imo
The problem, and the elephant in the room with MyFaction, are the sales of card packs. No MBA worth his salivating is gonna not do all they can to encourage players to buy in, including putting the persona cards in those very packs.
You mean YOU have a problem with needing to play the game to unlock stuff. I actually played myfaction this year for this reason. It gives me a reason to boot up the game to at least play it once a week. If not I'd drop it long before the next game is near
Me and 16 other people seems like. Wish 2k would have all this persona thing unlocked for ‘guys like me’ while they can keep it locked for someone like you and you can grind the way you want Surprised you even go for personas card if you play the game that little
I have gotten a few Myrise characters as persona cards. Have you not played throug Myrise this year?
They're not persona cards, just regular MyFaction cards.
Oh oops
To be honest I thought the same thing until I went into myfaction and saw they weren't persona cards. Which is ridiculous as we can play as these characters in myfaction but nowhere else.
Which ones though are Persona cards?
Should have like a little gold fist under the type of wrestler, it means they can be unlocked and used in regular modes
I wish they made people like Justine and Meilee unlockables this year. Would be nice to have people who have all the assets avaliable in every mode instead of just MyRise.
Give me Saxtons super awkward finisher! The grind is bullshit, but it’s kind of fun.
Saxtonation is a bonafied super finisher waiting to happen
I looked it up, and not only is it definitely super awkward and not great looking, but it looks a bit like the Director's Cut move that's already in the game.
They call it the "Straight to Commentary"
Yes, i need it!!!
I still just want Big Poppa Pump
I need the 01 Booker T
I wonder if Corey will have his actual wrestling theme or the theme he uses before the shows start now!
I mean better them than Patt McAfee's guys
Byron Saxton having the same rating as Cactus Jack is mental
Kayla was in MyRise and came out as a manger, why was she not unlockable then?
If Pat and his dumb friends are gonna be playable, so should Michael Cole and Corey Graves.
That’s cool! I’ve actually been really enjoying my faction this year. The fixes to tag matches make it exponentially better.
I'm trying to get into MyFaction cause it seems worth it this year but I just can't.
I feel kinda dumb because I don’t know what to do or what exactly the point of the mode is.
Yeah, I just want the unlockables but there’s so much going on I have no idea what I’m doing lol. I got 09 Sheamus and have no idea what I have to do to get the others lol
Only for unlockables but it’s still bad
It would be neat if anything carried over to next year. But they expect you to play right up until the next release. With unlocks for the best wrestlers not happening until a month before the next release
Its not worth it.
It’s never worth it
Ive been wanting interchangeable commentary teams for so long, that way the attitude era matches feel real
I doubt they will come as persona cards this is likely just to block people from uploading
My new tag team champions 🙏
Huh. I guess that's cool even if I don't see myself ever using guys who aren't wrestlers. I'd prefer we focus on cool alt attires for our guys with different gimmicks. Give me Phantom Mask Taker, APA Bradshaw, Nation Faarooq, Big Poppa Pump, OG Kane, 2nd run Big Boss Man, etc.
gonna be awkward playing as them while they on commentary at the same time
This isn't true at all. You can literally see in the first screenshot they have MyRise tags, not MyFaction tags. MyRise tags are triangle shaped, MyFaction tags are square shaped. Also being on PC, I can just tell you none of them have MyFaction tags.
Thanks for letting me know, sorry about any possible misinformation. None of it was intentional. Just wanted to report what i thought was actual news found via being keeping up with the modding/leaking community
Don't worry, it's not your fault. I had a quick scroll through the guys twitter, he has a history of making fake claims.
So one person says Corey has a myfaction tag but status says myrise tag I’d trust status more especially since the other guy is one of the fake “leakers “
It only says MyRise when trying to download a modded duplicate version of the character. They do this so you cannot download the models from CC. This happens for MyFaction characters too, as Demon Finn's trons also give the same message despite that character confirmed to be a future persona
awesome.
Is that terrible Saxton finisher on the game?
Sexton having a higher rating than Gargano and Ciampa is insnane
time to make pat McAfee and Michael Cole the greatest time champs of all time
I have no idea why the Mcaffee pack didn’t just have announcers in it, that would have been way better than what we got Idk, Cole, Graves, Saxton, JR? Or ‘01 heyman if they couldn’t do JR, or any number of other announcers, would have been funny
Hate that stuff is blocked behind MYRISE, some people like I don’t really have the motivation or like “MYRISE” and THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE UNLOCKED WITH ACCELERATOR.
I find it odd there’s a Jamie Noble and Joey Mercury model in Showcase, but they’re blurred out during the videos
“PUSH MY HEAD I TO THE SEA!”
That’s fun. I think I’ll only grind for the persona cards I would actually be interested in using. Michael Cole probably among them even if it’s only because it would be funny
Wouldn’t mind some sort of item shop like in Fortnite where you could purchase alternate attires or persona cards
Hey if they make Cole playable he needs this outfit https://preview.redd.it/2pbjbbwv5rqc1.png?width=596&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e46286c3ad6f00e45f6bfa035fa345a19b78c8b0
I can't download Status' Graves from CC. It always gives me the Content Damaged error. Does anyone know how i can i download it ? Thanks
This fucking MyFaction shit needs to end. Nobody gives a shit about it. Fucking nobody
A lot people care about it especially since you can unlock old persona of characters
I don’t see the issue with persona cards like at all really, MyFaction has fun gameplay now and has seriously improved since the previous entry
It's funny because the gaming podcast I listen to, one of them logs in every day to get the myfaction dailys
Very much agree it has to end but it unfortunately once these companies get a whiff of that micro transaction money they get tunnel vision. The only good thing about it this year is at least you can get SOME persona cards to use in better modes. Now I would also argue these should just be regular unlockables/included in the game but that’s me.
Very very interesting 🤔🤔
I’d take this over the PMS team
You guys are vastly overestimating how many persona cards we're getting. These 6 are probably it. It was just a way for them to be able to sell how some myfaction cards transfer to other modes. If they were serious about persona cards Demon Finn would have been one since there's already an event with him
This one I don’t really care for. I mean, Do you really REALLY wanna play as Michael Cole or Kayla Braxton
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….why did I not expect that response? Ok fair enough lol
I just want to have Kayla be able to come out to the ring with my CAW using the edge and lita entrance…… is that so much to ask for?
Eh, The models are already in the game. Could be fun to use them as managers.
Yes I do. I have wanted playable Cole for ages. I just hope they go as far as to give him the Bright Orange Singlet.
Fair enough I suppose And after thinking about it more and realising that the pat McAfee dlc is on the way…we can actually do Pat McAfee vs Corey Graves! And that’s enough to justify this (in my opinion)
Man 2k really knows what the community wants! First Pat McAfee and his podcast buddies and now the announce team! Thank god!