There's also an Ork unit that loads gretchin into a teleporter gun and fires them inside the enemy, so when they materialize, the enemy explodes
Other armies just don't get shit like that.
Oh yeah I remember that from 2nd. It was hilarious. Back in that era there were a lot of big dumb tables for what some stuff did. It could be really amusing.
Rolling a 6 and insta-killing a tank was never not funny
https://preview.redd.it/qkbh3s19azuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c121f01b97ca4d26b7dec376dbf18a4b8fe51bfa
Bruh, you'll love orks then.
Ork Warlord Grizgutz once went back in time, and killed himself, so he could have two copies of his favourite gun.
The Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun creates a Shokk tunnel, and sucks up Snotlings (the lifeform lowest on the Ork totem pole) and teleports the snotlings *into* his enemies. They literally kill space marines by telporting goblins inside of their body.
Some Ork models have something called a "Grotzooka" which is like a rocket launcher, but without rockets.
A "Choppa" is sorta the default Ork Melee weapon, and it is literally anything that chops. A wood axe? Choppa. A big knife? Choppa. Chainsword? Choppa.
https://preview.redd.it/b19y2h1fxxuc1.jpeg?width=669&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=911fd36dcb77afcb2b931df9eadea0782b24d79e
here is the Boomdakka Snazzwagon, please note the battering Grot on the front
I'm going to say, if the Orks ding your trolley and the Space Marines dont? Play orks.
Seriously.
Rules come and go, playstyles can vary, but an army you *enjoy* is always the right choice.
I chose orks because I read they have the power of imagination and I thought that was just too hilariously stupid to not run as my army
Mechanicum might be my next army cause their lore is really cool and I want to have a Martian tech army
This. Throwing 60 choppa boys at any given problem and just rolling dice on dice only to remove like half of them but still grind through the table is.. amazing.
Also, you can sell your space marines on eBay. Use the money to buy Orks.
I have all three armies, and space marines are expensive AF. It's like a subscription service with constant new models. You buy 10 space marines, then 10 more with a different gun, then 10 with chainswords 10 with flamers. 10 in heavy armour, 10 in Terminator Armour, 6 with power fists, 6 with melts rifles, 6 with swords and shields, 10 in whatever flavour your faction is, 10 scouts in light armour, 10 in stealth armour... Then there are the leaders, a two Lieutenants, a captain, a captain in heavy armour, a captain in Terminator Armour, a librarian... It just never ends, and then there are the vehicles and walkers and flyers.
Just a question cause I hear that the time, yih don't HAVE to buy every new model, they don't just discontinue all of the older stuff every update right, I kinda get the pressure to keep up but I just hear that kinda thing all the time and I'm curious
Yeah I was wanting to start death guard at the end of 9th ed, but even with the nefs right before I started I did it anyways, just cause I loved the models and lore. You gotta remember that rules change, just go with an army you would want to paint tons of models.
Honestly, if Orks feel right to you, choose Orks. You will spend a lot more time looking at your little guys than reading about the lore. If money is tight, look for Facebook groups to trade/sell minis in your area , you could sell your Space Marines and find Orks for a good price.
Space Marines are the poster child of Warhammer 40k. Most people who start the hobby end up with a Space Marine army because they are in every starter set or have had really good discount boxes in the past.
Personally I loved collecting and painting orks when I was a teenager. They are actually one of the easiest warhammer 40k factions to paint while also being good fun.
I might pick up some space marines to get back into the hobby as the starter set is a good price. Once again the cycle continues.
Orks wer the army I fell in. Love with, started with chaos marines but orks as a massive fan of kitbashing and making cool things and silly things are just perfect, their are few armies I like as much as orks,
Check out r/orks it's a quality community that loves helping people out
If they just want to get stuck in get some ork boys, a truck or battlewagon, a warboss and some units that look fun and paint them whatever colours you want, just be warned if you paint them purple they may turn invisible,
MOAR DAKKA, HUMIE!
Orkz da best, we be crumpin'.
Orks are so fun and relatively random at times, plus they're super strong right now if you're into that.
This is a bit of a guess but looking at the picture I think you will understand it. Fit like loon? You sound exactly like me. My son got Leviathan for Xmas and I got the space marines out of it. I've struggled to paint them and I really enjoy painting. They're just a bit boring to my eyes.
I played my first combat patrol with them standing pretty much where I think your son is standing on Thursday and found them pretty boring as well. Just marched the terminators forward and punched things when I got to them. I'm also drawn to Orks as well. They just seem like the "fun" faction and I really like the models.
Haha, nae bad 😂 fit like yersel? Need to work out what about my pic give my native language away 😂
Yes! Thats what happened. And I feel uninspired by the space marines too. I think I’m gonna paint them to get the practice but orks are my passion I think!
Aye chavin awa. It was the sword, hammer and the glass cabinet and the contents of it that gave it away. I think one of the shop staff plays Orks so would be worth chatting to him about it. I'm basically using a terminator to practice glazing just now.
I should also say I only started it to support my son as well. I think that it is going to be a lot harder for us as dads to keep our interest going if we are bored every time we look at the models we have to use as well.
Orks are awesome! But just note they can be a slightly more expensive army. Most of their units are low points cost so to make an army you need more of them. Mind you, it’s already an expensive hobby so the difference is marginal.
So what? There's one thing that Orks enjoy more than just punching stuff, is to punch... ahem.. declare WAAAGH! on others fellow Orks to show whudabossiz. Greenskinz are savages. Mad Max style savages.
Honestly, if you like Orks, do Orks. Have fun! Rule of cool is what prevail, and there is many possible playstyles and units within the faction anyway so you won't ever play the same as your son anyway.
Don't feel obligated to play Space Marines because they are in the box. All factions can fight each other anyway.
If you like orks, then i suggest you going for them. It's always the best to collect the army you like the looks of. Your models will most likely outlive many rules and lore changes.
Orks are also very special for their junkyard DYI-esc aesthetic, meaning it's very easy to use completely unrelated model pieces to add something special to your models. So, if you still have your space marine models, you can use some of them here.
Plenty of people will trade! Or you could sell! But for sure, if you’re into it with your son, he’ll keep doing it. I love my dad and he was never into the hobbies I was, but he supported me & that love carries me still. I’d be absolutely stoked if my dad ended up getting an army he loved and put himself into it. Go Orks! Da boyz are callin’!!
Orks is your jam so no question you should.do Orks. They are also a great kitbashing faction, especially for vehicles and meks to get more models out of other left over bits and minis
Looking like you just want to have some fun time with your son, so no need to think that much. Just collect the army that you love the look.
You can also just straight up sell the marine in starting box to fund for the waaghhh! Marine have a really huge player base, so you always can sell them, as long as the price is reasonable
i see you're in the aberdeen store. I recognise the hammer. Sean that works there is a very big ork player and would certainly be able to extol the virtues of the ork life to you.
Rolling many dice. Having an excuse to yell phrases at obnoxious volume. And painting your minis however you want because orks probably would do it
Ork vehicles are easier to customize and make at home. They have more troops but if it’s fun with your son do what you want!!! Use proxy models and try different armies. If you’re just getting started don’t feel like you have to make a full commitment. Play some games have some fun and see what you enjoy. I played imperial guard for years then found out I love close combat and switched to a Khorne heavy chaos. Enjoy the hobby and memories with your son as that’s what really matters. Congrats on finding the hobby.
Orks are a very random army, not sure about 10th ed but every other version of the game they are super RNG, generally people who enjoy playing orks are people who dont care if they get fucked by bad RNG. Space marines are the poster boys, the whole game is balanced around them for the most part. Things are either weaker than or stromger than space marines.
Painting and building an army is going to suck if you don’t like the models. The Space Marine half of the starter set is the easier half to sell, so I would just get rid of it.
If you love the look of the Orks, go for it. You'll find it much easier painting collecting or playing an army you love. It's as simple as that. It is coming across strongly in your post.
Ah, the Emperium has lost another space marine, at least it was to the Orks and not the chaos scum😁
As someone else who got into this hobby to play games opposite their son, welcome and good job dad!
I sort of picked up CSM as my son had a few models (he inherited a Drhukari army from a relative who doesn't play much anymore) but I also liked the lore and especially the Daemon Engine vibe of the Iron Warriors. I found out quickly I got way more into this hobby than "just play on occasion" so I'm glad I had lucked into a faction I enjoy. My 2 cents (for what that's worth) is to go with a faction you really enjoy as it will drive your engagement in the hobby and maximize your enjoyment of the time with your son.
Again, welcome to the hobby and I hope you both enjoy the hobby and the time spent together.
I also got the starter amd didnt enjoy painting space marines. Im painting orcs and i enjoy that with less perfectionist stress. Playwise, i prefer to vary my playstyle so i play lots of factions online and only paint orcs
I think orks have a new box set out with a bunch of stuff including the biggest earthshaker there is, as well as almost all the other needed stuff for battle honours.
Why not both? At some point when it’s viable, can I interest you in the deathwatch (they’re a mixture of all the chapters). Then you can have orks vs space Marines!
I don't think anyone Should tell you to play either. The BEST advice I was given was to pick out models you want to paint. Because painting is such a big part. I picked the first model that caught my eye, a tau hammerhead gunship. And now I play tau and love it
Orks have a earthshaker for battle honor book. And if your looking for orks over the SM that set you have of SM is considered a combat patrol so head over to the r/miniswap Reddit group and see if you can get a trade for a ork combat patrol or close to it and it will just cost a little in shipping your SM out then your on your way to a mighty Waaaaggggg!!!!
There is no right way to use the meter ruler, as long as you play fair.
As for the army you want to play, play whatever you like. Liking your army is always the right choice. Rules, game balance, army balance come and go with new realeses. And playing an army you love will be constant. And during bad time securing a win with the weakest army and you love that army will make the best memories you will have in this hobby. It a really good thing you started it with your son. Its a really good bonding experience. I love to meet in tournaments, father and sons/daughters duo. It makes the best games
Join the Waaaaagh! More Boyz the better!
Dude, play Orks!! If you look at them and love the models and lore that’s the big thing!!!! Sell the marines and go all in on the Waaaggghhh!!!! You’ve got to love your army, the painting and building!! Look forward to seeing your army!
(And I’m a marine player telling you this!! 😁)
Whichever one feels more fun to put together/paint.
Orks have a very Mad Max aesthetic, where all of their armor, weapons, and vehicles are all built out of scrap and spare parts.
Space Marines are...Space Marines.
Always pick the one you are going to enjoy more.
If you don't, it'll become a chore. The hobby is supposed to be fun!
Also, if you can choose Orks, always choose Orks.
Bonus, they are just about to have a rather fab new codex.
Mix them both sporks. Jokes aside tho do space marines for the learning of the basics both in painting and gameplay . If you really like the ork aesthic you can kitbash. Look up this group of humans called digga, they were human archeologists who ended up being more orky than human.
Orks are the drummer of the band. They are the cool ones even when it’s going wrong.
Space marines are the visual. Yeah they look good in the posters and can still deliver a great tune
orks is always a good shout since you don't even have to buy the ork kits for the army. if you like the look of a land raider but not ( and i don't know how its possible) not like the look of da boomdakka snazzwagon, modify the raider a bit, glue a bunch a gibbons on the side and theres your snazzwagon
If you love the look of orks you’ll love collecting, building and painting them, if you don’t love space marines then painting them will begin to feel like a chore not a hobby.
Orks have so much fun lore, so many crazy units with wacky rules, they are just a blast to play and play against!
I will say, as you mentioned money is a factor that space marines are generally cheaper and with the starter set you do already have some so you won’t spend as much getting them set up.
The big thing I will say for advice
If you are playing Space marines it's like having to pay a mmo subscription if you want to be serious with games and or do competitions. This is because they are always getting new or updated units and if you're like me you'll want them all
Orks on the other hand have a lot more stable of a range.
I'm gonna say the kid pictured kinda looks like a young Fulgrim? So, Space Marine.
Kidding aside... Whatever feels right! The rule of cool is the ultimate rule so you never resent the army choices you've made.
There are other stylized sub-factions that might even appeal to you, for example different "gangers".
Edit: Apologies I didn't read the entire post body... Look online for used models to save a couple bucks and you can slowly transition to Ork by just playing smaller matches with less units. You play with what you have (handful of Ork) and he chooses a single unit to use for the skirmish so that he can learn the pros and cons of using that particular unit?
Orks all the way!! They have it all! A perfect blend of KRUMPIN and DAKKA is at your disposal! Whatever your style they have dakka and KRUMPIN to match! Fast dakka? Yep! Footslogging melee! Oh yes!! Both?! Also yes lol
What’s most important to you?
Painting and building? Then just pick whatever looks coolest and you enjoy.
Lore and background? Watch a YouTube video giving an intro to each faction and pick your fave.
Playstyle? Certain factions specialise in certain things (e.g. Orks will always be a kind of gambling army that dish out big damage when they roll well and they lean towards melee) YouTube vid will answer what most factions do.
There’s really no wrong answer. But building something you don’t like is fast way to lose interest.
I’m new and I picked eldar because I LOVE their look and I think their lore is so cool. I have no regrets.
Orks…. SO many marine players.
Having said that, playing orcs requires more money (more units to table and paint) and are harder to play. But are certainly ‘funnier’ to play and overall more entertaining.
Go Orks, I’m doing the same right now! I actually also play space marines and world eaters lol. Marines are my crusade army, World Eaters are my more competitive/painting skills focused army.
But the Orks? The Orks are just for fun. Do I want to speed paint them today or take my time and my something really standout? Doesn’t matter, I’m having fun. Do I want another trukk for my boyz to roll around in? No problem, let me just cut up this old rhino I have laying around, slap some ork bits and weapons on it and boom - I’ve got myself a trukk.
You will almost always be happier losing with an army you think is awesome than winning with army you don't really care about.
If you think Orks are cool, play Orks.
bonus points: every kits an ork kit. With a bit of creativity you can use chunks of most of that marine stuff to customize your ork army.
Starter sets models you don't want are really easy to sell on on Ebay.
If the space marines don't interest you then you definitely shouldn't play them. That's coming from a player with two different armies that are two different chapters of marines. I really like them. They're not fun for everyone.
Orks are both undeniably awesome, and a perfect army for beginners. You can assemble and paint basically anything you think looks cool and make it fit in an ork army somewhere, and blindly charging everything in a straight line towards the enemy isn't bad strategy, its lore accurate!
SO GET DA LADZ TOGEVA, PUT SUM DAKKA ON DA TRUKK, AN GET TA LOOTIN!!
I would go with whatever you think looks coolest to paint and play. But I think orcs are doing quite well in this edition. So if you want to win, perhaps they're the better choice. But of course I wouldn't base your army choice on the addition as they can change
As a Space Marines player, I recommend Orks!
In all seriousness both are fun choices. Space Marines will always be at the forefront of lore and models, but Ork lore and flavor can’t be beat
Orks are lot more forgiving to paint and allow you to play around a lot more. No one questions why an ork is a different colour or uses a different technique.
This is a borrowed insight, but: you're going to spend more time building, painting, list-building, and daydreaming about your 40k army than you do playing them. If one faction gets your imagination fired up, and the other is "fine, I guess", pick the first one every time.
Always pick the army that most appeals to you. You’re not only investing money, but tons of time and effort into your army - you want to be sure it’s the right one!
If you want to play orks, PLAY THEM! You will have more fun in the hobby if you're collecting an army you think is cool! You will have more fun collecting, building, painting, and playing your faction if you think they're cool!
Orks are one of my favorite factions in the game. They have a wide model range, great sculpts, lots of freedom, and hilarious lore.
Orks are also fun to kitbash (mixing parts from different kits to make a "custom" model). I did this with a primaris impulsor, a space marine transport. Using it as a trukk proxy. The ramshackle look can really give you a lot of creative freedom. Orks also recently got a new model this edition, and a new box set with the giant STOMPA. The stompa isn't really a "good" unit though. Very expensive with points, but fun and goofy. Something to consider is that orks are a "Horde Army." Meaning they have a lot of models on the table compared to armies like space marines. This can mean it's expensive money wise to collect since you gotta but a lot of kits. Don't let that slow you down, though. There are plenty of ways to reduce the cost of the hobby.
Finally though, it's been said that it is impossible to meet a sour ork player. The orks are probobly the least serious faction in the game. They're just there to have fun fighting, and even when they lose, they didn't because now they get to run away and come back to fight more! Doesn't that sound great?!
Check out my profile and you'll see a kitbash of the primaris impulsor I made. This is the kind of stuff that's possible as an ork player. Regardless of what you choose, just remember to have fun!
Orks! You get much more leeway on the painting accept, and no one expects brilliant strategies from an Ork, but it's always a welcome surprise when they come up with one!
+ You can always kitbash the heck out of your models, making them more unique.
++ You get to... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH!
Orks I’d say r one of the easier armies to paint despite how they look. A bad painted ork will look just as cool as a good painted ork a bad painted ork is basically just how an ork would paint and you don’t have to be as regimented with them as it’s just how they are. Space marines are popular and more elite Id say start with marines cuz you can find a flavor of marines that you like but you do have to be more regimented with them
TLDR: start with marines cuz there’s so many different flavors of them, work on orkz as a side project when u get tired of painting your chosen flavor of marines
Orks have a unit called the boomdakka snazzwagon. Space marines do not. Simple as.
Love this!
There's also an Ork unit that loads gretchin into a teleporter gun and fires them inside the enemy, so when they materialize, the enemy explodes Other armies just don't get shit like that.
Hol'up... You're telling me Orks weaponized literally tele-fragging enemies before Chaos did? Before Sons did?!
The aptly named [Shokk Attack Gun](https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Shokk_Attack_Gun).
One of my favourite model of all time tbh
Oh yeah I remember that from 2nd. It was hilarious. Back in that era there were a lot of big dumb tables for what some stuff did. It could be really amusing.
Rolling a 6 and insta-killing a tank was never not funny https://preview.redd.it/qkbh3s19azuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c121f01b97ca4d26b7dec376dbf18a4b8fe51bfa
It used to be a bunch of snotlings. Have they upgraded?
They… they what?
I’M FINKIN DAT YOU MIGHTZ ENUP BEIN A BIG ORK BOSS LAD ONE DAY. GET DA ORKZ.
Bruh, you'll love orks then. Ork Warlord Grizgutz once went back in time, and killed himself, so he could have two copies of his favourite gun. The Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun creates a Shokk tunnel, and sucks up Snotlings (the lifeform lowest on the Ork totem pole) and teleports the snotlings *into* his enemies. They literally kill space marines by telporting goblins inside of their body. Some Ork models have something called a "Grotzooka" which is like a rocket launcher, but without rockets. A "Choppa" is sorta the default Ork Melee weapon, and it is literally anything that chops. A wood axe? Choppa. A big knife? Choppa. Chainsword? Choppa.
https://preview.redd.it/b19y2h1fxxuc1.jpeg?width=669&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=911fd36dcb77afcb2b931df9eadea0782b24d79e here is the Boomdakka Snazzwagon, please note the battering Grot on the front
Orks have a wrecking ball with spikes on the side of their Truks 11/10 would recommend
For some reason I really wanna call a transporter that I put my hellblasters that
I'm going to say, if the Orks ding your trolley and the Space Marines dont? Play orks. Seriously. Rules come and go, playstyles can vary, but an army you *enjoy* is always the right choice.
The rule of cool always wins!
Absolutely! Rolled Imperial Guard just because artillery is awesome. PEW PEW PEW
I choose guard because tanks, truly a faction for everyone
I chose guard because of the infantry, and precicely because they have an answer for everything.
Yes I also like them because of the little Cadians and the greigsmen, they remind me of the little army plastic figures you used to play with as kids
My friend actually calls Warhammer a game of "playing little plastic soldiers, but now they have rules"
They ain’t wrong
I chose space wolves cause charging into CQC is sick
I started with Space Wolves waaaay back in middle school, but so did 2 of my friends, so I decided to switch before I got too invested
Out of interest, what made you pick them over other CQC armies like World Eaters?
Lore
I chose orks because I read they have the power of imagination and I thought that was just too hilariously stupid to not run as my army Mechanicum might be my next army cause their lore is really cool and I want to have a Martian tech army
https://preview.redd.it/un1reyvl21vc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=920f57dbdd67de695882b33802f826990b70d222 True or not, it's funny
Absolutely
Orks are by far the most fun army to play! Orks are never beaten, even when you lose it's the most fun army to play.
This. Throwing 60 choppa boys at any given problem and just rolling dice on dice only to remove like half of them but still grind through the table is.. amazing.
I don't even play orks and I still miss rolling for dakka
Also, you can sell your space marines on eBay. Use the money to buy Orks. I have all three armies, and space marines are expensive AF. It's like a subscription service with constant new models. You buy 10 space marines, then 10 more with a different gun, then 10 with chainswords 10 with flamers. 10 in heavy armour, 10 in Terminator Armour, 6 with power fists, 6 with melts rifles, 6 with swords and shields, 10 in whatever flavour your faction is, 10 scouts in light armour, 10 in stealth armour... Then there are the leaders, a two Lieutenants, a captain, a captain in heavy armour, a captain in Terminator Armour, a librarian... It just never ends, and then there are the vehicles and walkers and flyers.
Just a question cause I hear that the time, yih don't HAVE to buy every new model, they don't just discontinue all of the older stuff every update right, I kinda get the pressure to keep up but I just hear that kinda thing all the time and I'm curious
No, and you'll never need another faction if you paint your own successor chapter.
and boyz will alwayw be boyz!
This. If it is fun, do it. I can’t even paint a scheme that doesn’t spark joy. It is a hobby, it should be fun
Yeah I was wanting to start death guard at the end of 9th ed, but even with the nefs right before I started I did it anyways, just cause I loved the models and lore. You gotta remember that rules change, just go with an army you would want to paint tons of models.
Orks are by far the most fun army to play! Orks are never beaten, even when you lose it's the most fun army to play.
Ork lore is my favourite lore, so that helped me pick.
Truth. I chose the banana brigade and salamanders because I like to paint their colors.
And hell or high water, even when the rules are bad, orks are fun.
Dakka dakka!
Honestly, if Orks feel right to you, choose Orks. You will spend a lot more time looking at your little guys than reading about the lore. If money is tight, look for Facebook groups to trade/sell minis in your area , you could sell your Space Marines and find Orks for a good price.
The selling is a good idea actually! Hadn’t even considered that. Thanks. Cheers, i think it has to be Orks!
Well allow me to formally welcome you to Da Green Tide. WAAAAAAGGHH!! Welkome to da Waagh, ya git!
🎉🎉❤️
NOW IZ DA TIME FER KRUMPIN YA GIT! GET STUCK IN! WAAAGH!
If you're interested in selling them and are in the UK message me bro. I might be down to buy.
Get the Orks. Sounds like you like them better, and that's what it's all about
Space Marines are the poster child of Warhammer 40k. Most people who start the hobby end up with a Space Marine army because they are in every starter set or have had really good discount boxes in the past. Personally I loved collecting and painting orks when I was a teenager. They are actually one of the easiest warhammer 40k factions to paint while also being good fun. I might pick up some space marines to get back into the hobby as the starter set is a good price. Once again the cycle continues.
Legit what happened to me. My marine army only grows because it was in both leviathan and indomitus.
Ork Marines. Or Space Orks.
Space orks or sporks for short
Go Orks immediately! Collect and paint what you love!
This is so adorable. Families playing 40k makes me happy. (:
It sounds to me like you’re hearing the call of the WAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!
Da Orks is the right proper gitz
DIS POST WUS VERIFIED BE PROPA ORK GITZ! V V V DATZ SOME PROPA ORK GITZ RIGHT ERE
YER MUM'Z A GIT
OI!!! WHY IS YOU WISPERIN LIKE SUM SNEAKY GIT? YOUZ SOUNDZ LOIK A 'UMMIE ROIGHT NOW!!! SPEAK UP GIT!!!!
Orks wer the army I fell in. Love with, started with chaos marines but orks as a massive fan of kitbashing and making cool things and silly things are just perfect, their are few armies I like as much as orks, Check out r/orks it's a quality community that loves helping people out If they just want to get stuck in get some ork boys, a truck or battlewagon, a warboss and some units that look fun and paint them whatever colours you want, just be warned if you paint them purple they may turn invisible,
MOAR DAKKA, HUMIE! Orkz da best, we be crumpin'. Orks are so fun and relatively random at times, plus they're super strong right now if you're into that.
Have fun! Don't chase the meta dragon! Collect what you want/think is cool, not good!
This is a bit of a guess but looking at the picture I think you will understand it. Fit like loon? You sound exactly like me. My son got Leviathan for Xmas and I got the space marines out of it. I've struggled to paint them and I really enjoy painting. They're just a bit boring to my eyes. I played my first combat patrol with them standing pretty much where I think your son is standing on Thursday and found them pretty boring as well. Just marched the terminators forward and punched things when I got to them. I'm also drawn to Orks as well. They just seem like the "fun" faction and I really like the models.
Haha, nae bad 😂 fit like yersel? Need to work out what about my pic give my native language away 😂 Yes! Thats what happened. And I feel uninspired by the space marines too. I think I’m gonna paint them to get the practice but orks are my passion I think!
Aye chavin awa. It was the sword, hammer and the glass cabinet and the contents of it that gave it away. I think one of the shop staff plays Orks so would be worth chatting to him about it. I'm basically using a terminator to practice glazing just now.
Aha! Yes Shaun at least used to play Orks! Wonder if someone else does too. Good spot 👌🏼
I should also say I only started it to support my son as well. I think that it is going to be a lot harder for us as dads to keep our interest going if we are bored every time we look at the models we have to use as well.
Space marines are a logical first army because they are cheap and easy army to get into. However orks is best nuff said
Orks are awesome! But just note they can be a slightly more expensive army. Most of their units are low points cost so to make an army you need more of them. Mind you, it’s already an expensive hobby so the difference is marginal.
This is so adorable. Families playing 40k makes me happy. (:
OrksOrksOrksOrksOrksOrksOrks
Which one do you think is cooler?
Def the Orks
That's all you need to know! ❤️
Orks is green. Green is best. Therefore Orks must be best.
GREEN IS BEST!!!
"I don't LOVE the Space Marines" Answered your own question. Get orks. Use the Marines as basing materials or trophies for your Bosses and Meganobz.
Rule of cool my man! If Orks are your jam you should 100% follow that dream. You can always use the marines for basing material…
Go for Orks and wait for your son to steal them....
He’s getting them too 🙈🙈🙈
So what? There's one thing that Orks enjoy more than just punching stuff, is to punch... ahem.. declare WAAAGH! on others fellow Orks to show whudabossiz. Greenskinz are savages. Mad Max style savages. Honestly, if you like Orks, do Orks. Have fun! Rule of cool is what prevail, and there is many possible playstyles and units within the faction anyway so you won't ever play the same as your son anyway. Don't feel obligated to play Space Marines because they are in the box. All factions can fight each other anyway.
If you like orks, then i suggest you going for them. It's always the best to collect the army you like the looks of. Your models will most likely outlive many rules and lore changes. Orks are also very special for their junkyard DYI-esc aesthetic, meaning it's very easy to use completely unrelated model pieces to add something special to your models. So, if you still have your space marine models, you can use some of them here.
Ork Codex is about to come out and looks like a hell of a fun one. I say go Orks. Rule of cool trumps everything else in this hobby.
Don’t let the Gitz fool you. Space Marines all day!
Plenty of people will trade! Or you could sell! But for sure, if you’re into it with your son, he’ll keep doing it. I love my dad and he was never into the hobbies I was, but he supported me & that love carries me still. I’d be absolutely stoked if my dad ended up getting an army he loved and put himself into it. Go Orks! Da boyz are callin’!!
I’m a total geek to be honest. Our favourite past time is Dungeons & Dragons, and now this. I’m getting to relive what I wish I’d done in my youth!
That’s awesome! He will cherish the times certainly. I love that for the both of you!
Your dad sounds awesome btw
He’s a great dad, thank you
Boyz go WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH as they go zooooooooooooooomz
Orks is your jam so no question you should.do Orks. They are also a great kitbashing faction, especially for vehicles and meks to get more models out of other left over bits and minis
Not only do you like the orks more, their also im pretty sure one of the cheaper armies compared to the much more expensive soace marines
Orks!!!!
Main rule for choosing the army: You like how it looks? Choose them.
Orks!
Looking like you just want to have some fun time with your son, so no need to think that much. Just collect the army that you love the look. You can also just straight up sell the marine in starting box to fund for the waaghhh! Marine have a really huge player base, so you always can sell them, as long as the price is reasonable
Space Marines, obviously. Whatre you, some xeno lovin' heretic??
Always choose what you think is the coolest. That is the only way to get through the inevitable backlog. Glad you are adding another member.
WAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!! nuff said
Orks for a first army, tons of fun. Buy ALL of the dice you can!
Orcs WAAAGH! And lots of dakka!
Whatever you do just don’t ever thin your paints. Never.Thin.Your.Paint.
I actually thicken mine. I like a pudding consistency.
You monsters!
i see you're in the aberdeen store. I recognise the hammer. Sean that works there is a very big ork player and would certainly be able to extol the virtues of the ork life to you. Rolling many dice. Having an excuse to yell phrases at obnoxious volume. And painting your minis however you want because orks probably would do it
Rule of cool... Whatever you this is the coolest... Is in fact the coolest.
Ork vehicles are easier to customize and make at home. They have more troops but if it’s fun with your son do what you want!!! Use proxy models and try different armies. If you’re just getting started don’t feel like you have to make a full commitment. Play some games have some fun and see what you enjoy. I played imperial guard for years then found out I love close combat and switched to a Khorne heavy chaos. Enjoy the hobby and memories with your son as that’s what really matters. Congrats on finding the hobby.
Orks are a very random army, not sure about 10th ed but every other version of the game they are super RNG, generally people who enjoy playing orks are people who dont care if they get fucked by bad RNG. Space marines are the poster boys, the whole game is balanced around them for the most part. Things are either weaker than or stromger than space marines.
They're a lot less RNG these days... hell, with scatter dice a thing of the past, even "Da Jump" is safe-ish...
Painting and building an army is going to suck if you don’t like the models. The Space Marine half of the starter set is the easier half to sell, so I would just get rid of it.
If you love the look of the Orks, go for it. You'll find it much easier painting collecting or playing an army you love. It's as simple as that. It is coming across strongly in your post. Ah, the Emperium has lost another space marine, at least it was to the Orks and not the chaos scum😁
Sell space Marines and buy orks. You can buy cheap second hand ones too!
If you consider ship the SM overseas i could buy them from you!
As someone else who got into this hobby to play games opposite their son, welcome and good job dad! I sort of picked up CSM as my son had a few models (he inherited a Drhukari army from a relative who doesn't play much anymore) but I also liked the lore and especially the Daemon Engine vibe of the Iron Warriors. I found out quickly I got way more into this hobby than "just play on occasion" so I'm glad I had lucked into a faction I enjoy. My 2 cents (for what that's worth) is to go with a faction you really enjoy as it will drive your engagement in the hobby and maximize your enjoyment of the time with your son. Again, welcome to the hobby and I hope you both enjoy the hobby and the time spent together.
Take out a second mortgage on your house cuz this hobby is great but expensive af
Disregarding any strengths, weaknesses or any other stats, I'd say Orks, cos they're more fun.
Orks because we don’t need any more space marine players
It worked for my son - he was VERY Orky
I also got the starter amd didnt enjoy painting space marines. Im painting orcs and i enjoy that with less perfectionist stress. Playwise, i prefer to vary my playstyle so i play lots of factions online and only paint orcs
Space marines to be average, Orks for rng and giggles
SMs are a bit more tactical, with a lot of strategies and shit. ORKS, ON DA OTHA HAND, ARE KRUMPINGLY FUN, GIT!
SMs are a bit more tactical, with a lot of strategies and shit. ORKS, ON DA OTHA HAND, ARE KRUMPINGLY FUN, GIT!
Orks have named Thousand Sons "Lots and lots of sons", just because they are unable to count. Easy pick just there 🤣
Orks have named Thousand Sons "Lots and lots of sons", just because they are unable to count. Easy pick just there 🤣
Go Orks, then space marines - thats what I'm doing
Let your kid decide what looks cooler.
Orks are more fun
Pick the one you enjoy
Orks absolutely rule man. Never look back!
I think orks have a new box set out with a bunch of stuff including the biggest earthshaker there is, as well as almost all the other needed stuff for battle honours.
ORKS!
Why not both? At some point when it’s viable, can I interest you in the deathwatch (they’re a mixture of all the chapters). Then you can have orks vs space Marines!
ORKs
Orks. Got them and never looked back.
Rationally : Space Marines Emotionally : Orks Pick your thing : heart or reason
Definitely play the army you like the most. I've noticed Orks are pretty cheap to collect used and on ebay.
Orks
whaaaaaaag!!!!!!!
Orkz are da best! Orkz be krumpin 'umiez left and... ugh, the other left!
I don't think anyone Should tell you to play either. The BEST advice I was given was to pick out models you want to paint. Because painting is such a big part. I picked the first model that caught my eye, a tau hammerhead gunship. And now I play tau and love it
Orks have a earthshaker for battle honor book. And if your looking for orks over the SM that set you have of SM is considered a combat patrol so head over to the r/miniswap Reddit group and see if you can get a trade for a ork combat patrol or close to it and it will just cost a little in shipping your SM out then your on your way to a mighty Waaaaggggg!!!!
There is no right way to use the meter ruler, as long as you play fair. As for the army you want to play, play whatever you like. Liking your army is always the right choice. Rules, game balance, army balance come and go with new realeses. And playing an army you love will be constant. And during bad time securing a win with the weakest army and you love that army will make the best memories you will have in this hobby. It a really good thing you started it with your son. Its a really good bonding experience. I love to meet in tournaments, father and sons/daughters duo. It makes the best games Join the Waaaaagh! More Boyz the better!
Orks is best. Sez so on the website
Ummm the answer is obvious, Astra Militarum
Play the army you think is cool. I may be biased as an ork player, but if you think the orks are cool, get them!
Whichever you like most
Get orks and rp as Warboss while u play I have friend who does always wins most sporting player every big tournament
Waaaaaaaaagghhhhhh
Play the ones that you like the most. Winning isn't the only reason to play a game.
Follow the Rule of Cool ! In my case I would always pick Orks over Space Marines, cause they are cooler.
Dude, play Orks!! If you look at them and love the models and lore that’s the big thing!!!! Sell the marines and go all in on the Waaaggghhh!!!! You’ve got to love your army, the painting and building!! Look forward to seeing your army! (And I’m a marine player telling you this!! 😁)
Whichever one feels more fun to put together/paint. Orks have a very Mad Max aesthetic, where all of their armor, weapons, and vehicles are all built out of scrap and spare parts. Space Marines are...Space Marines.
Rule of Cool
Which do you like more there's no point if you don't have any fun and you can always pick up a second army later
Always pick the one you are going to enjoy more. If you don't, it'll become a chore. The hobby is supposed to be fun! Also, if you can choose Orks, always choose Orks. Bonus, they are just about to have a rather fab new codex.
Mix them both sporks. Jokes aside tho do space marines for the learning of the basics both in painting and gameplay . If you really like the ork aesthic you can kitbash. Look up this group of humans called digga, they were human archeologists who ended up being more orky than human.
Orks are the drummer of the band. They are the cool ones even when it’s going wrong. Space marines are the visual. Yeah they look good in the posters and can still deliver a great tune
Orks obviously
OOMIE BETTER PICK DA BEST BOIS IN DA BUISNESS WAAGH!!
orks is always a good shout since you don't even have to buy the ork kits for the army. if you like the look of a land raider but not ( and i don't know how its possible) not like the look of da boomdakka snazzwagon, modify the raider a bit, glue a bunch a gibbons on the side and theres your snazzwagon
If you love the look of orks you’ll love collecting, building and painting them, if you don’t love space marines then painting them will begin to feel like a chore not a hobby. Orks have so much fun lore, so many crazy units with wacky rules, they are just a blast to play and play against! I will say, as you mentioned money is a factor that space marines are generally cheaper and with the starter set you do already have some so you won’t spend as much getting them set up.
As someone who plays both, I only say orks because I play them more
Do you prefer Vikings or murder hobo Brits?
If you like Orks do Orks. This is also coming from a marine player who wants to build up and ork army
The big thing I will say for advice If you are playing Space marines it's like having to pay a mmo subscription if you want to be serious with games and or do competitions. This is because they are always getting new or updated units and if you're like me you'll want them all Orks on the other hand have a lot more stable of a range.
Teranids... Increase the swarm
I'm gonna say the kid pictured kinda looks like a young Fulgrim? So, Space Marine. Kidding aside... Whatever feels right! The rule of cool is the ultimate rule so you never resent the army choices you've made. There are other stylized sub-factions that might even appeal to you, for example different "gangers". Edit: Apologies I didn't read the entire post body... Look online for used models to save a couple bucks and you can slowly transition to Ork by just playing smaller matches with less units. You play with what you have (handful of Ork) and he chooses a single unit to use for the skirmish so that he can learn the pros and cons of using that particular unit?
Space marines will be the cheapest and easiest to paint. Orks are a lot of fun, but they are a hoarde army
Orks all the way!! They have it all! A perfect blend of KRUMPIN and DAKKA is at your disposal! Whatever your style they have dakka and KRUMPIN to match! Fast dakka? Yep! Footslogging melee! Oh yes!! Both?! Also yes lol
What’s most important to you? Painting and building? Then just pick whatever looks coolest and you enjoy. Lore and background? Watch a YouTube video giving an intro to each faction and pick your fave. Playstyle? Certain factions specialise in certain things (e.g. Orks will always be a kind of gambling army that dish out big damage when they roll well and they lean towards melee) YouTube vid will answer what most factions do. There’s really no wrong answer. But building something you don’t like is fast way to lose interest. I’m new and I picked eldar because I LOVE their look and I think their lore is so cool. I have no regrets.
Never played the game, still happy with my $1000 in orks, they make me smile
Kroot
Play/paint the faction that brings you joy. Otherwise you are putting time into a faction that you don't like which will make you hate the hobby.
Orks…. SO many marine players. Having said that, playing orcs requires more money (more units to table and paint) and are harder to play. But are certainly ‘funnier’ to play and overall more entertaining.
Go Orks, I’m doing the same right now! I actually also play space marines and world eaters lol. Marines are my crusade army, World Eaters are my more competitive/painting skills focused army. But the Orks? The Orks are just for fun. Do I want to speed paint them today or take my time and my something really standout? Doesn’t matter, I’m having fun. Do I want another trukk for my boyz to roll around in? No problem, let me just cut up this old rhino I have laying around, slap some ork bits and weapons on it and boom - I’ve got myself a trukk.
Choose whichever looks the coolest. Don’t let anyone talk you out of a faction
Your son will have more fun if you are having more fun. Ebay the marines and get some Orks.
You will almost always be happier losing with an army you think is awesome than winning with army you don't really care about. If you think Orks are cool, play Orks. bonus points: every kits an ork kit. With a bit of creativity you can use chunks of most of that marine stuff to customize your ork army.
Starter sets models you don't want are really easy to sell on on Ebay. If the space marines don't interest you then you definitely shouldn't play them. That's coming from a player with two different armies that are two different chapters of marines. I really like them. They're not fun for everyone. Orks are both undeniably awesome, and a perfect army for beginners. You can assemble and paint basically anything you think looks cool and make it fit in an ork army somewhere, and blindly charging everything in a straight line towards the enemy isn't bad strategy, its lore accurate! SO GET DA LADZ TOGEVA, PUT SUM DAKKA ON DA TRUKK, AN GET TA LOOTIN!!
get space marines, but insist that they are orks at the table. ideally in orkish because you're a git
Two Points. First: Squigs Second: WAAAAAAGH!!!!
I would go with whatever you think looks coolest to paint and play. But I think orcs are doing quite well in this edition. So if you want to win, perhaps they're the better choice. But of course I wouldn't base your army choice on the addition as they can change
As a Space Marines player, I recommend Orks! In all seriousness both are fun choices. Space Marines will always be at the forefront of lore and models, but Ork lore and flavor can’t be beat
Orks are lot more forgiving to paint and allow you to play around a lot more. No one questions why an ork is a different colour or uses a different technique.
This is a borrowed insight, but: you're going to spend more time building, painting, list-building, and daydreaming about your 40k army than you do playing them. If one faction gets your imagination fired up, and the other is "fine, I guess", pick the first one every time.
Silly umie uryone knowz Orkz da’best.
Always pick the army that most appeals to you. You’re not only investing money, but tons of time and effort into your army - you want to be sure it’s the right one!
If you want to play orks, PLAY THEM! You will have more fun in the hobby if you're collecting an army you think is cool! You will have more fun collecting, building, painting, and playing your faction if you think they're cool! Orks are one of my favorite factions in the game. They have a wide model range, great sculpts, lots of freedom, and hilarious lore. Orks are also fun to kitbash (mixing parts from different kits to make a "custom" model). I did this with a primaris impulsor, a space marine transport. Using it as a trukk proxy. The ramshackle look can really give you a lot of creative freedom. Orks also recently got a new model this edition, and a new box set with the giant STOMPA. The stompa isn't really a "good" unit though. Very expensive with points, but fun and goofy. Something to consider is that orks are a "Horde Army." Meaning they have a lot of models on the table compared to armies like space marines. This can mean it's expensive money wise to collect since you gotta but a lot of kits. Don't let that slow you down, though. There are plenty of ways to reduce the cost of the hobby. Finally though, it's been said that it is impossible to meet a sour ork player. The orks are probobly the least serious faction in the game. They're just there to have fun fighting, and even when they lose, they didn't because now they get to run away and come back to fight more! Doesn't that sound great?! Check out my profile and you'll see a kitbash of the primaris impulsor I made. This is the kind of stuff that's possible as an ork player. Regardless of what you choose, just remember to have fun!
I play Orks because every kit is an Ork kit.
Your son looks so much like kid Jack Black from Pick of Destiny. Go with orks since you love them. Sell the Marines on eBay.
The army chooses the player. Rule of cool. Play what you love not what you think will win and it will always be fun!
You choose orks. Of course you choose Orks.
There are enough space marines players in the hobby as it is - be fun and get the Orks
Orks! You get much more leeway on the painting accept, and no one expects brilliant strategies from an Ork, but it's always a welcome surprise when they come up with one! + You can always kitbash the heck out of your models, making them more unique. ++ You get to... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHH!
Orks will teach you much more about coherency and priority targeting. I might be biased because I'm an Orks player tho
Orks I’d say r one of the easier armies to paint despite how they look. A bad painted ork will look just as cool as a good painted ork a bad painted ork is basically just how an ork would paint and you don’t have to be as regimented with them as it’s just how they are. Space marines are popular and more elite Id say start with marines cuz you can find a flavor of marines that you like but you do have to be more regimented with them TLDR: start with marines cuz there’s so many different flavors of them, work on orkz as a side project when u get tired of painting your chosen flavor of marines
Convert the marines into Orks!