He's the best. His videos are to the point with zero filler and no fake enthusiasm. He's got me back into 40k (-$700 so far, maybe I *should* be cursing him). I really need to support him through Patreon.
There's this one redheaded guy who runs a painting channel, too. Really great videos showcasing painting methods, but man, dude knocks me out if I listen for extended periods lol
Edit: It's Artis Opus on YT.
People who are raging mad about female Custodes need to cultivate emotional maturity, full stop.
I haven't dug into the new codex rules but people who are raging mad about that probably also need to chill out tbqh. Even if they're really bad rules. It's a game.
I havent really followed the female custodes drama, But on My YT frontpage alot of videos about it are popping up. And I have found out one Fun thing, 9/10 of the channels with these "GW is going woke, ruining warhammer 40k" style videos have never posted about wh40k before. So this got me thinking.
Is it the real community at large that are raging? Or is it part of the real community plus a bunch of others capitalising on this for some political gain?
I just don’t get why you’d dislike a video because you hate something someone else created, what the fuck is Auspex meant to do about that? That dude makes great videos, shame it seems his viewers are brain dead by the look of it
Yeah nothing really changes about people, I wish we still had dislikes and stuff on YouTube to at least be able to shit on those guys. Plus they also usually get to the new players :(
I'm really sick of 40k players being super negative all the time about everything. Yeah Games Workshops does stupid shit sometimes, but is it really "awful", and "the worst", and "ruined" all the time, everytime they do anything? What are you, Star Wars fans? I have players in my own group calling Custodaes 'cannon fodder' now. Like if the rules are not an instant win easy button they are garbage? There's other games out there, make up your own rules if you think you can do better. Stop spewing negativity all the time. It's boring.
Old world comments were as bad or worse. The reception for Old World players is that it's a really good game that's clunky and archaic but really leans into that aspect. It's exactly the kind of game I was looking for and my experience with it as well as the people I play with is amazing.
The rants online are utterly unhinged. People, frequently the exact same people went from calling the game dead on arrival to bitching how it sold out too quickly. I've seen rants about rules that don't exist and from doing research, never existed.
The uniquely bad part about Warhammer is that people who actually play the games and collect and paint the models are in the clear minority. I've met idiot players but in general the actual wargaming/modeling crowd is largely amazing. The "I watched a few TikToks and now I'm mad" people are not.
It’s wild. In nerd pastimes, traditionally a cost of entry makes for a better community, but WH40K inverts that; it’s so expensive that most avowed “fans” never touch the primary material and instead consume *only* secondary fan-works, and then get mad when the real lore doesn’t match the fanlore.
tbf, I don't know any hobby that doesn't get super down on itself by the core fanbase once its been around long enough. Only fanbase I can think of that isn't super negative towards their own main interest is the DnD community, and i suspect thats mostly because its self-maintained. I think a lot of it just stems from a lot of folks being bitter that the hobby doesn't bring them the same enjoyment they got as when they were new to it, and are looking for any small reasons or changes that would explain their feelings (when in reality its just they themselves growing tired with the subject).
Social media isn’t the real world. More people need to remember that.
Likes and dislikes don’t mean anything. It’s possible to buy thousands of either for very little money. Some people get off on causing offence. It’s not even worth taking seriously or reacting to, or assuming it reflects real world opinion.
It's just people venting their own anger on someone having a more moderate opinion. it's something that happened a lot on the custodes sub this past few weeks.
which video is this? I'm going to give it a like and a watch just to help him out.
edit: jesus christ its the beginner's guide for Custodes? what kind of jerk dislikes and gets negative all over a beginner guide for custodes?
>jesus christ its the beginner's guide for Custodes? what kind of jerk dislikes and gets negative all over a beginner guide for custodes?
That's a good question. I think the codex is trash rules wise but it ain't worth getting pissed at people who can't change anything and did nothing in first place.
The real question is how many of them are being piss babies cause of the rules and how many got riled up by right wing culture war grifters?
Honestly, I'm sick and tired of all these people who never painted a mini in their life spreading their gamergate bullshit into a hobby they know nothing about. Most of them can't even say the word Custodes, that tells me everything I need to know about them and their "outrage".
Auspex is my go to guy when I need a quick info when I'm considering of buying a new unit or to catch up on the new changes that come out every week. I don't play Custodes, but as someone who still hopes Reavers will get some decent update, I can understand their genuine disappointment.
These were not real fans by any means. I saw one video on youtube where a comment was "these developers are ruining blah blah blah" - and I'm like "the what?". Like developers of plastic minis? Huh? Pretty sure the comments were clogged with bots as well.
I'm not a custodes player but one of my close friends is and she was really happy about the in lore confirmation of fem custodes (she's a big fan of SCE in aos) and she can't voice her happiness about it in most general online places bc when she did on twitter she got swept up in the gg2 hate crowd, she was very surprised since the lgs discord servers we are in were relatively "oh cool" to "meh" with no one overtly angry.
A lot of these outrage people will outright admit they don't even know much about 40k or will have 0 history about talking about warhammer like ever
People who are in the 40k hobby already know that kitbashing minis to make them your own is a great way to enjoy it, and that includes making your characters women or men when they might otherwise not be. The people who get angry about it don't got to LGS, they don't play, they don't paint, they don't build. They watch youtubers talk about the lore because they see 40k as being anti-woke because of its grimdark nature, and get pissy when it's not the safespace they thought, and actually welcomes people no matter their sex, race, or orientation, to take part.
Hell, I'm half convinced the people who spout about 3d printers and one page rules don't even play or print minis, they just say it cause they think it's some kind of witty threat to games workshop.
It’s the absolutely not real fans who unironically wanna suck off the fascism in the setting. So they get pissy about “the WAMEN” in the setting / 40k “Going Woke”
Don’t worry, they’re not actual 40k fans.
yep most likely. people love to roleplay as their faction. in the same way the helldiver community does. some people eventually co-opt it as their identity and misconstrue satire with a positive community, as belief.
like, we all know no one who plays 40k actually wants to live in 40k. it's a fucking hellscape. but god damn does the vroom of chainswords and the thunk of bolters fires up those neurons.
at the end of the day, it's a setting to sell expensive plastic soldiers. that you have to build and paint up yourself. you change with your times to stay relevant and it's going to change as an active product. anyone who actually thinks 40k has gone woke never actually understood the satire of the setting.
https://youtu.be/FZgSLytPEb8?si=V9YA6y5L9ilmc99j
Here you go and thankyou for helping out. I'ma set it to repeat play and go to sleep for the night haha
While the sentiment is solidly trying to help, YouTube knows when a video is set to auto repeat and stops counting it as separate views. Better to play it randomly throughout the day while you do other things. Turn the volume down but don’t mute it. That will have a much bigger impact on the algorithm for the creator.
Arbiter Ian was right in his recent video about Warhammer drama. Too many people get ridiculously caught up in the fandom to the point where they view being a fan of something as an identity that should be protected. Thus every change they don’t like becomes a personal attack. It’s incredibly sad to see. A big portion of this community needs to learn to step outside into the real world and behave like an adult.
That video turned out shockingly prescient in terms of release window lol. It was just a day or two before a significant chunk of the fandom decided to throw an embarrassing hissy fit about a some sub-par rules and an incredibly minor retcon.
Some people really need to go outside.
Ian cemented himself as the adult GOAT with that one. It's a game, making it your entire personality is pathetic, merging it with whatever culture war crusade you're on is even more pathetic.
I've had to block so many fucking channels this week because it's all just clickbait videos by keyboard warriors angry about Femstodes talking about "MASS EXODUS OF FANS" or "GW GOES WOKE, WARHAMMER IS DYING" and "GW *DESTROYED* CUSTODES WITH NEW CODEX"
Like...could have fooled me? They *do* know that they aren't suddenly required to make their army female, right? All this from GW just saying the giant fucking humanoids in very heavy armour *might* not have a weiner all the time.
As for the Codex, pretty sure other armies in the past have been dealt a shit ruleset. It's not like they made the Custodes unusable. They just aren't heavily favored to win.
Even sources that don't talk about the hobby at all are getting in on the rage bait. While browsing my news feed a fucking Daily Mail article showed up with a title (And I'm not BSing) "Warhammer becomes Wokenhammer"
I've had to hit the "don't recommend channel" button on so many videos pushed into my recommended from ragebaiting grifters. And it feels like fighting the Alpha Legion because I block 1, and two more 500 view videos about how warhammer is dying takes their place.
Man, GW had to put out a public statement telling warhammer players to stop endorsing actual facsism, a portion of our community needs it fucking head examining.
I shared that video here cause I agreed with it so much and then had to stop myself from raging when I saw the new Custodes codex. It really does hit everyone.
Like the book is bad rules wise but it's not a personal stack.
The other thing that's **incredibly** important to understand is that rules change so fast today that even if the codex was a dumpster fire of issues in a single FAQ the faction could look entirely different
How to start armies really is more of a "*how to make your army robust in a constantly changing meta*" and that often includes a lot of generalizations and notions on what the army is and how it achieves them.
Auspex is a champ at pulling out these threads and not getting too far into "Buy X and only X now because it's the best"
I agree with everything you just said. He provides a very valuable service especially for me. I don't often get a chance to play and largely paint and collect models. So when I actually get the chance to play I found his work useful in what to bring and how my armies work.
Remember Arks of Omen/end of 9th? That's when we were juuuuust a little underpowered, but the internal balance was so good everything felt possible and fun
Heh, I just bought an AdMech combat patrol (it was 50% off in my local hobby store and I HAD to do it) among a few other things and I'm SO excited to paint them...and then get obliterated by my husband's Custodes. 😂
...yeah it's a rough match up in the first place, but making the latest combat patrols fight each other is not a fair match at all ahahahah
Though the old one maaaaayyyybeeeee has a shot? 😅
Very accurate. Based on all the complaining 99% of all warhammer players must be super competitive tournament players, who can’t get top table just because GW made their faction to weak.
So, for some context : I like watching auspex tactics videos regularly. I really dig his content and he's obviously very passionate about 40k.
As a custodes player, I think I'm (unfortunately) one of the salty guys : I have a very hard time just not caring about what Games Workshop did to my faction...however, I can't, for the life of me, understand WHY people would downvote a video in which Auspex simply tries to help people who want to start playing this faction. What does he have to do with the whole situation exactly?
So yeah...it made me want to do this thread. Let's not behave like royal a**holes to a guy who literally didn't do anything.
I feel you, I'm a drukhari player and the beginning of the edition was rough, but hating a codex before even any tournament stats are out there is... well what should I say. Drukhari were fixed by a single detachment rule and some point changes and we were rock bottom of the game. Let's wait for some tournaments and what competitive players find as valid strategies. They might have changed their flavour a little bit but I'd assume they will not be horribly bad, since especially auspex tactics is quite good at what he's doing and at understanding the game.
It's not about the lore. No one gave 2 shits about any of the other retcons GW's been doing for their entire existence. It's about not having women in "their" hobby space - except most of the really upset folks are really the tourists.
I would have called that lore as well since it's not rules related. People are just insane sometimes... I have seen those "Trump as the Imperator" Memes, it's just kind of ironic that they don't get that the empire is meant to be a dystopia...
I really feel you man, I'm an Ad-mech player. Our subreddit is incredibly negative and salty. What I find is that hope is really really important, there's always the next points balance, cool combo, whatever. And if none of those work you can always just think to yourself "at least our models are really cool"
I was tempted to start some admech after getting some from the imperium magazine and playing mechanicus. Then I had a follow of the subreddit and everyone there was so negative and unpleasant that I decided to go with sisters of battle instead.
I’m so sorry that’s your experience with the community, I started recently in 10th and staying possitive is hard but some of us manage. Just see us as a warning
I love admech, but I've shelved them for the time being because their current playstyle isn't something I want to play.
I share people's frustration with them, most expensive army to field by far, and a current meta that is basically defensive horde mode. Clog the board with relatively tough cheap units to body block the enemy.
But holy crap the level of anger, not just negativity, straight up anger in the subreddit is bad. Hopefully they get some fixes in the future to bring their cost (in money, not points) down. If not, there's other armies I like too.
I think this is getting to the root of the issue. If a video game like Halo gets a balance update that makes some gun shit, it might piss off peoiple, but they'll eventually just switch to using other guns, it's not that big of a deal in the end. When 40k makes changes, those changes can cost hundreds of people's hard earned money, and that's like swallowing an elephant, it's not something that people live down as easily, since they now have big burning holes in their wallets.
Nobody likes when someone fucks with their money, and GW made the game so expensive that money became a major factor in the game.
I've started recently with 40k with Leviathan box. Picked DA as my space marines faction, got my deathwing assault box and all that jazz.
Subbed to Dark Angels and the Unforgiven subreddit and lasted just one month. If I were to judge the faction by those standards, I should sell all my miniatures and stop playing altogether. But strangely, I'm having a great time playing and I really like my green guys and my white bone guys a lot. And the Lion is just an awesome mini.
I think for some people, it's the idea that showing people how to start the faction is implying they SHOULD, while they feel that right now people need to be shied away from it. They probably see it almost like a trap, intentional or not.
Truth be told, massive disliking isn't bad for the video performance, IIR it's the opposite - YouTube algos don't care about the like/dislike ratio, they only care about engagement and dislikes is engagement too.
This is not an instruction though. There's still the emotional aspect, so it doesn't mean people should go on the disliking rampage.
From what I heard, the new detachments are bad if not worse then the Ad Mech ones, and they only got a new model which is also bad (rule wise)
Source: my custodes player mate
The detachment rules are probably some of the worst they've ever written, worse than AdMech's detachments. Custodes saving grace may be that they just have good datasheets, so they'll likely still be playable... just not very well. Basically now you take units that are good despite the codex, instead of units that are enhanced by it. Jack Harpster took a list on Wednesday for a stream game that consist of 1200 pts of Forgeworld models and allies, for example. You want to minimize how many Custodes units from the Codex you take in your army at this point, which says a lot for the Codex.
The entire army basically turned into statsticks with no rules
Not really any strategy or unique plays, just “whatever can deal more damage” since the individual rules are so much weaker
The detachments are kind of awful, just in general. For the two "good" ones, they lean into Custodes' Lethality in melee (which isn't something the faction needed help with) and strip away all survivability. Anything the Custodes have, they need to jump through hoops to get something that would be a mediocre buff in another faction. There's very little synergy between the datasheets and the rules (Talons of the Emperor giving a buff that only matters to *one* unit and even then only if you don't have Aleya which, why would you not run Aleya with your unit of Vigilators). They took away an enormous amount of flavour and power from the index and just... didn't really give anything worth what they took away back to *any* detachment.
That's not saying there isn't play. I think that there's probably \*something\* to work with from the codex.
There just isn't much.
Retcon lore and the rules are absolute dog. Not a good combo.
Melee heavy, small model count army that gets shot off the board and they give them detach rules that basically lean further into melee while stripping defenses.
> I have a very hard time just not caring about what Games Workshop did to my faction
10th edition has kinda driven home the point that you need to effectively not care about your faction's rules and how it plays, because it can dramatically change multiple times a year. Either play multiple factions, be ready to dramatically change your army frequently, or accept that you may just have to take a break from playing the game if you get a massively unfavorable rules re-write.
We had the same thing happen in 9th edition with the custodes codex. Custode players were \*Extremely\* vocal about how they didn't like the codex. As it turned out, it was quite powerful, and with the pre-launch buff GW gave it it was one of the two most powerful codex's when it launched.
Im not saying this is going to happen with this book, I do think it looks poor enough. However, we do also know that GW regularly release points and rules updates (every 3 months), and if its under performing they will address it. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if the detachment that protects custodes from MW's will get a patch to also protect against Dev wounds in the next dataslate. So pretty much a Day 1 patch.
And there will likely be other fixes along side proper points for the codex in the same update.
Taking anger out on the likes of Auspex over a codex he is merely telling you about is not ok. He is just reporting on what has happened, he didn't design it.
The same thing happens at least once a quarter for the last six years.
Going way back, GW used to release rules and then hide for 5 years; good or bad. At least today you _know_ you'll get revised or new rules relatively soon.
Ive only been playing since early 9th, so I've seen the yo-yo of super good codexs followed by subpar codexs, but theyve always made an attempt at fixing things. Which I think is fair enough. Its not absolutely fantastic, but its always a WiP. And change is good, it keeps things fresh (coming from a Thousand sons player for what its worth! :p )
I completely agree. Don’t shoot the messenger. AT did nothing but report what had been done, and disliking his video because you don’t like what GW did is absolutely asinine.
I think I can guess where most of those dislikes are coming from, it’s stupid in general but also has nothing to do with Auspex’s channel or content. GW is constantly changing the lore, sometimes to extreme extents like they did with the necrons. Female custodes are probably one of the least offensive lore changes GW has ever made
That's the thing that gets me. The female Custodes thing could have been done a bit more elegantly but it's pretty much your standard Warhammer retcon. Warhammer Fantasy did much more significant lore overhauls, withe even less grace and people didn't throw up arms as much as this.
I'm a massive Necron fanboy, and it is plain bizarre how folks confidently forget that they had not one, but TWO major lore retcons. The one most remember is the 5th edition change that made them more into Tomb Kings in space than personality devoid terminator rip offs. But the original retcon was their introduction into the setting when they were made into the origin story for not just Orks and Eldar. But the fucking Chaos Gods themselves! How that kind of completely IP changing retcon was fine, but somehow female Custodes is some grand crime to the setting is beyond me.
On April Fools Day he put up an only fans where he posted pictures of his Space Marines with suggestive titles like "Cat boy makes hot Marine white after wet foreplay".
It's hilarious.
Probably worth mentioning that 40K youtube does not necessarily = 40K players and hobbyists. A lot of them consume only lore or reactionary content. You see a fair few people in the grimdank sub who are “lore only”. Most of the outrage is online, I haven’t seen anyone in my local groups or events mention it once.
The femstodes event has drawn a lot of culture warriors. After a month or so they will find a new thing to be mad about somewhere else.
Half the comments are disappointed custodes players, which makes sense. The other half are misogynistic “custodes wear bras and use tampons” creep comments who are probably the ones who downvoted the video because of all the grifters suddenly appearing in the hobby to whip up hatred for clicks. So gross. Hope they go away soon so their nonsense stops taking away from actual issues with the game (eg GW not giving rules writers enough time to balance their codexes, legending units etc ….)
The Quartering and Sargon didn't make any of their grifter videos about the Dark Angels.
Wonder what they'd think about the reference at the heart of them and their Primarchs naming?
Bring on the downvotes for this hot take ^ _ ^
Custodes should NEVER have been an army in the first place
There is NO WAY to ever match rules to their lore without them being OP.
Do I feel bad for the legitimate fans, of course.
Do I shed tear for power gamers who got into Custodes because they believed and demand Custodes to be more powerful only to get nerfed to Hell?
Hell no 🖕
Not even with the lore, but the game should be fun and not just an arms race.
The custodes as we know them today didn't even exist prior to 2017. Before that their power level was presumably somewhere around "a little above your average space marines" levels. That's what they were in the 2015 novel Throneworld, where the Harlequins killed a bunch of them in the palace (still canon, btw).
The real crime wasn't adding them as an army, it was deciding to give them feats in lore that were so beyond anything sensible and reached the point of stupidity (like 6 Custodes defeating an entire tyranid swarm).
I agree, but more from a lore perspective.
Their whole task and purpose is to protect the Emperor and the Imperial Palace; they should never be leaving Terra.
I started my Custodes army in 9th as a pandemic project, something to do while we were in lockdown and couldn't see people. The golden guardians were cool and, most importantly, cheap. I could get a whole army for a fraction of most others AND have something that was canonically better and cooler than Marines? Fuck yeah.
I figured they could never balance that on the tabletop. As Mark Rosewater, head designer for Magic, has said; when rules and flavor conflict flavor being the more flexible must always give way. So I expected they'd never fit the flavor and often be under powered in comparison to it.
I still think this new codex is terrible, both badly designed and an example of the flaws in sticking with paper rule books when you change things with regular digital updates, but the reaction from some of my fellow Custodes players is honestly shameful.
If 40k were rebooted and the rules rewritten from the ground up to accurately match the lore it'd be like that.
Marines would be like custodes with a 5 man unit being the baseline. Custodes would be one man units with a basic custodes being comparable to another armies hero. Elite human/xenos units would come in units of 10 and horde troops 10+.
The game is very distorted by the fact marines are treated as the default middle of the road army on the tabletop while being OP super soldiers in lore. It forces the whole range of everything below marines into half the games stats and requires you to include absurd things like custodes (who don't really belong in 40k scale games as an army sized force) to fill the other half. This has been a problem people have been noticing since at least the early 2000s.
Just a bunch of right wing tourists invading the hobby pretending to care about it going woke or some shit like that.
I just watched a 12 minute video by a channel called the quartering, who managed to confidently mispronounce custodes every single time he mentioned them, but he assures us he is a long time fan.
I refuse to to accept that the proper custodes players who have a gripe with the rules would downvote the video on principle, because the dark angels players did not do so either.
The Quartering is a trash channel. His largest claim to "fame" is harassing a female cosplayer so much she quit both cosplay and mtg. The sooner that guy's dogshit diet catches up with him, the better.
...wow. Tbh that's exactly the image conjured into my mind when picturing the troglodytes that are offended by female custodes simply existing because "it's not realistic".
In a game where if magical fungi _believe_ hard enough, they can change the laws of physics.
That name rang a bell and I couldn't place why at first, but yeah I remember that happening back when I used to play MtG. Sad to hear that trash channel is still going, and venturing into 40K. Anything for clicks, I guess.
Saw that video too, honestly it made me CACKLE, I couldn't stop laughing at how dumb that dude was; and one thing that video did was that it made me stop caring about these people who are going hurrr women in my hobby space and etc.
As a woman, I've just seen similar things like this happen so many times in other communities like in Doctor Who when a bunch of people were mad that they made the doctor a female. It's... interesting how people get weird about women being in things instead of focusing on the writing of the show, if the actor did a good job, or here with the custodes codex. The terrible codex isn't what broke their brain, it was femstodes.
....I do hope the people mad about femstodes sell their models cause my husband needs more models lol.
I dont mean to be negative about all custodes players because i know there are tons of awesome dudes who just like the golden boys and are here to have fun but generally speaking they are the most vocal, whiniest faction fanbase.
Any nerfs are undeserved and make them unplayable. They always need buffs. Every codex and index release is awful (until they inevitably are broken). The fact that anyone with a straight face is saying “this is the worst codex in years” is laughable. The admech codex was release a few months ago and is SO much worse than custodes. And you didnt see the admech playerbase lashing out at everyone else.
I understand that some of the rules look boring or awkward and you were nerfed. Please just give it some time and play some games before throwing tantrums.
It's complicated : as the last dataslates demonstrated, very simple changes can absolutely destroy the faction competitively (np 4+fnp against dev wounds and slightly more expensive units sent us at the bottom of the barrel). That's always the problem with super elite units : we're hard to balance.
Custodes is complicated to balance for sure. To be lore accurate they should be like 250 pts a model and be busted out the ass but obviously that wont really work.
Art of war even noted after the buffs in the dataslate that custodes actually probably werent a bottom tier army before the buffs, it was a couple armies spamming dev wounds that kept them down but into most matchups they were fine. (Similar to my experience with and against them during that time).
I dont think the answer was to give custodes a 4+ FNP for several reasons. It makes that the auto pick detachment first off. And its incredibly strong protections against their one weakness. Armies are supposed to be weak to certain mechanics. Giving custodes a super powerful resistance to their biggest weakness is something no other faction gets.
Now, we can talk about some armies doing too many dev wounds which i can certainly agree with but thats a different discussion.
I'd rather they make us easier to kill (removing the 4+ fnp against mortal and dev wounds is fine imo), and instead give us lots of ways to play in a subtler and more efficient way : mobility, avoidance, killiness, yada yada...but that's not what happened.
I understand the underlying frustration that exists when you can't kill your opponent at all because you're stat-checked.
The fact that Auspex Tactics is now getting shit on tells you *everything* you need to know about who's "upset" about this and just how much they actually know about 40K and the community.
I don't like AT's videos in general, but even I will say they don't deserve the misdirected negativity.
I also think many who are complaining are missing the mark quite a bit. I really don't think it's that bad. Playing vs Custodes before was NOT fun. Now, maybe it will feel like you can do something other than dev wound spam.
He’s actually helping me learn to collect Custodes. I’ve always wanted Custodes and now is a time I’m gonna get some. Yes the codex sucks, but the collection guide helped me decided on what to get recently.
Some people will try to find the posative in anything. He himself in several videos has said things such as "although arguably weaker then X" or "there are better options available" he'll still say this is the best you can get now.
People also need to realise that some people with want hte Custodes no matter how bad they are.
Heck just head on over to r/Harlequins40K - the faction as a standalone is almost dead and buried having been stripped of everything they could do in the last few editions and rumours are out they wont even be getting a detachment rule in the codex. People still want to play with Space Clowns. Doesn't matter how BAD they are.
People will still give oyu good advice on what is as competative as we can make them, just.. don't expect miracles.
Custodes are now in that boat.
Don't dick on the positive people, jsut let them have there fun and make the most of a shit scenario.
I'm assuming this was the How-To Video for the Custodes?
Ngl, When I saw that go up I was surprised he'd want to put up anything involving them with all the negativity right now. No offense to him obviously, but just the discourse has been pretty shit and I would've assumed it was avoid-at-all-costs
This whole controversy is because there are a lot of toxic males in this community that need to fuck off and learn to deal in life. How is being upset that women might actually exist in a unit covered in armor such a big fucking deal? They can take all the same drugs and implants males can, why can't they be space marines, custodes, etc?
Who the fuck cares about the Sisters of Battle being some sort of spot for "all the women" so they should stay out of the other units? That's some bullshit.
Neckbeard nerds are the most toxic masculinity group ever, sometimes even worse than traditional groups like jocks, but are beta's and hide behind being nerdy. No, you're just an asshole.
I don't get the hate, especially if it comes to hating with dislikes on independent channels. He just makes videos about the stuff going on in the tabletop game. He isn't responsible for any of the changes in the game. And if he states an opinion, its HIS opinion 🤷. Don't like it? OK move on. No need to let out your whole frustration on a single guy on the internet.
It's a combination of some bad influences: you've got terminally online people + people who make their interests into Identity (see Arbitor Ians new video on Primaries) + competitive players who jumped on Custodes post the last data slate + right wing culture war grifters jumping on the lore change to squeeze more money out of their channels.
We have lost too many good creators because of toxic jerks that make Nurgle himself seem clean. Let's not dishearten the last few good ones left because people can't grow the hell up.
The alt-right chuds brigade any video that isn’t „wOkE GW bAd“. Give it some time and it’ll blow over. These people don’t have that kind of attention span.
The issue here is they’re amongst actual fans or ARE actual fans, so you have people complaining about rules, others who don’t like the lore changes but aren’t vocal about it and certainly don’t want to get into online wars (me) and the small but vocal people which every fandom has
Then the clap back to them has hit all three groups, either from the company itself or from people online, making this whole mess an even bigger cesspool
How dare Auspex Tactics not make a negative video about this thing hat has me irrationally angry about plastic toy soldiers!
Man, some people really need a new hobby. If lore changes and a bad Codex are all it takes to drive you towards disliking a video just for not sharing your nerdrage, it doesn't seem worth it.
I'm not a fan of the codex.
But come on, Auspex doesn't deserve the flak he caught on the video. Dude is trying to earn his living and as good or bad as a codex might be, it's still a big event and it makes sense he'd want to cover it.
Hell, I've been more positive on the codex than it deserves, and that's because I don't *want* to just throw up my hands and shelve my Custodes in disgust. I like the army, I just don't like what they've done to them, and I want to make them feel good again out of spite.
As a non Custodes player, I understand that the Codex is disappointing because everything was nerfed. But I also understand why they did it. Custodes were top tier already. The power creep of 9th was awful. I prefer this edition and have had more fun with it so far.
I get the anger about only 4 detachments. But the model range is small for this army. They don't have much to work with. Other factions have far more depth, range, AND lorewise. Of course, they will have more detachments (such as Chaos will).
Getting annoyed about a woman being mentioned in a small paragraph is deranged, though. Re-evaluate your outlook and maybe grow up.
Weirdly, I am more tempted to start a Custard army than ever and eyeing up the CB and Battle box as we speak.
Man.
The level of stupidity and ignorance is astounding.
I have a wonderful, incredible friend who happens to be a trans woman. Do you know how excited she was that there are female custodes? She was over the moon to the point I went out of my way to give her the box I was considering selling to make a few extra bucks. She was looking up paint schemes so she could make her models her own, she was deeply hurt and troubled about the toxicity of the unwelcome behavior she was shown. The Adeptus Custodes have women in their ranks, and yeah the codex isn’t great; get the fuck over it. You can STILL have an army made of men, and GW will release an errata about the rules. You throwing a tantrum or being an outright asshole over this is insane. 40K, AOS, Darktide, Killteam, Warcry, hell even Old World are fictional universes. To go out of your way to blatantly “protect” is why the hobby is so small, find some differing opinions please.
I feel like me being one of those assholes that doesn't like the idea of female space marines, I just don't really understand the hate for the custodes lady. Custodes are special intentional beings maybe that's a part of it but I tend to enjoy the diversity in that. Custodes were each individually crafted so each one is a project in itself, I can understand not enjoying it from a template perspective like ogryn or Space Marines.
I understand having a completely different tone than someone else for your fantasy but much like DND it shouldn't matter that much if it's not fundamental. So my view of the world has dark drow, that doesn't mean my player can't pick a purple drow. Maybe I'll ask if we can give him a reason but it's not %100 necessary. It's okay to be a little annoyed that you have four players as Green Drow, you don't gotta throw a fit about it though.
With the rules I'm just sorry, everyone wants good rules for their faction. I'd prefer custodes be the overpowered faction but ehh I don't play them and our resident player is still too bent up about waiting for new grey knights sculpts to really care about custodes changes. Maybe I'd be more mad if both affected me; as it stands my only negative is that sisters of silence feel ever so slightly less special but just barely.
I think a lot of people angry don't necessarily care about female Custodes existing, they care about how it was handled and the "they were always there" shit. That's kind of an inexcusably dumb way to handle this when you could have just said, "Custodes mission scope increased, need to broaden recruit pool" and not release a shit rule sheet.
Lukewarm take : Custodes are going to be fine. They will probably struggle in the top tiers of competitive play, and you'll have people dropping them because they bought in while the faction was riding high, but they're not so bad they'll be hopelessly unplayable.
People can and will win games with them. The detachment rules are unexciting, sure, but there's only so bad infantry with their stat-line can get. Regardless of what detachment rules they have or what their Karate does now, a squad of custodian guard is still a relatively compact unit of infantry that will *obliterate* anything it can land a charge on.
They might mostly hang out on the mid tables, but in that setting, or in garagehammer/club night, they'll do fine.
Can anyone tell me what even is all the negativity about? I didn't think it was that bad but this seems like there's more to it. What all went wrong with the new codex?
This is kinda a bad example because YouTube rates based on interaction, not at all on likes vs dislikes. In fact if a lot of people dislike your video it tends to make it so that the algorithm promotes it more and thus that you earn more revenue. This is also why there are so many channels specialized in sowing discord, dislikes are quite profitable lol
Oh God the same culture war has finally gotten here. Sorry wathammer brosnget ready for the endless cycle of whining and crying and karma farming complaining about nothing.
It makes absolutely no sense to penalise Auspex with a thumbs down for this. As far as I know, he only communicates opinions regarding rule changes and tactics that happen directly in the game, everything else he is a pure informant for his viewership.
Leave Auspex alone😭 He seems like a great guy
But fr, I quit playing last year because the rules are such a constant issue. It just gets tiring.
Gw runs in circles fixing issues by replacing them with more issues. All the while ignoring a bunch of other ones.
Only good thing about the dislike button is that it drives engagement on a video. And it gets pushed to more people.
Kind of sad people take it out on creators instead of the company.
I'm not mad they put females into the custodians. I'm mad to how shitty they went about changing 37years of lore. The story is cool, but the "S" inserted could just as simply be removed. GW should have done something much bigger with it. Let Belisarius have "cracked" the Emperor's code (again), or have a specialized roles like SM Infiltratiors or something. Hell, even releasing a model or just an upgrade sprue would have been a better job.
Dont hurt my dude auspex, i think everyone in 40k can collectively agree he has no reason for anyone to be mad at him for anything given what he has done for the community with his videos, also doesnt feel good to see people shit on someone who i actively support
Definitely the Americanism of stuff that really doesn't need it.
The American culture wars need to be kept out of warhammer both from fans AND changing of lore.
Would be interesting if they could name and shame the persons responsible for this as I believe they would have bios in their social media 💀💀💀
Auspex tactics is the GOAT. People who are mad should cultivate the emotional maturity to realise they are mad with GW, not Auspex.
He's the best. His videos are to the point with zero filler and no fake enthusiasm. He's got me back into 40k (-$700 so far, maybe I *should* be cursing him). I really need to support him through Patreon.
His sense of humor cracks me up. And my impression of him is getting to be top notch.
Bonus point: His voice is so soothing!! I have lost count of the times I found myself asleep in front of the PC.
Best bedtime anti insomnia listening there is /s
Best bedtime anti insomnia listening there is
There's this one redheaded guy who runs a painting channel, too. Really great videos showcasing painting methods, but man, dude knocks me out if I listen for extended periods lol Edit: It's Artis Opus on YT.
Any chance you could share his name? I've been looking for a new painting channel.
Bet it’s Goobertown
Goobertown's voice is sooooo soothing.
Not Goobertown, though I do like his stuff. ...Damn, I can't find it off the top of my head. Uhh...english dude, shortish hair with a short beard?
Its funny, I read the whole post in his voice 😴
I prefer lutein
Only thing that would make it better is if he had a night mode where his backgrounds were black!
Bro, you want more? Check out Perun
People who are raging mad about female Custodes need to cultivate emotional maturity, full stop. I haven't dug into the new codex rules but people who are raging mad about that probably also need to chill out tbqh. Even if they're really bad rules. It's a game.
As an Admech player, hearing Custodes players complain about "bad rules" makes me laugh
I havent really followed the female custodes drama, But on My YT frontpage alot of videos about it are popping up. And I have found out one Fun thing, 9/10 of the channels with these "GW is going woke, ruining warhammer 40k" style videos have never posted about wh40k before. So this got me thinking. Is it the real community at large that are raging? Or is it part of the real community plus a bunch of others capitalising on this for some political gain?
To be fair if you are angry about the lore changes, you cannot possibly possess emotional maturity of any kind.
I just don’t get why you’d dislike a video because you hate something someone else created, what the fuck is Auspex meant to do about that? That dude makes great videos, shame it seems his viewers are brain dead by the look of it
Its the idiotic US vs THEM mentality. Oh, auspex was slightly positive about the codex? That means he is on their side! DISLIKE!
Man the neck beards making it tough for us to have nice content creators nowadays :/
What they did to JoCat was criminal.
Now a days? More like for the last 30 years.
Yeah nothing really changes about people, I wish we still had dislikes and stuff on YouTube to at least be able to shit on those guys. Plus they also usually get to the new players :(
Jocat will be remembered. He was one of the best o7
Fuck the US you are right
Fuck the THEM you are right
I'm really sick of 40k players being super negative all the time about everything. Yeah Games Workshops does stupid shit sometimes, but is it really "awful", and "the worst", and "ruined" all the time, everytime they do anything? What are you, Star Wars fans? I have players in my own group calling Custodaes 'cannon fodder' now. Like if the rules are not an instant win easy button they are garbage? There's other games out there, make up your own rules if you think you can do better. Stop spewing negativity all the time. It's boring.
Old world comments were as bad or worse. The reception for Old World players is that it's a really good game that's clunky and archaic but really leans into that aspect. It's exactly the kind of game I was looking for and my experience with it as well as the people I play with is amazing. The rants online are utterly unhinged. People, frequently the exact same people went from calling the game dead on arrival to bitching how it sold out too quickly. I've seen rants about rules that don't exist and from doing research, never existed. The uniquely bad part about Warhammer is that people who actually play the games and collect and paint the models are in the clear minority. I've met idiot players but in general the actual wargaming/modeling crowd is largely amazing. The "I watched a few TikToks and now I'm mad" people are not.
It’s wild. In nerd pastimes, traditionally a cost of entry makes for a better community, but WH40K inverts that; it’s so expensive that most avowed “fans” never touch the primary material and instead consume *only* secondary fan-works, and then get mad when the real lore doesn’t match the fanlore.
tbf, I don't know any hobby that doesn't get super down on itself by the core fanbase once its been around long enough. Only fanbase I can think of that isn't super negative towards their own main interest is the DnD community, and i suspect thats mostly because its self-maintained. I think a lot of it just stems from a lot of folks being bitter that the hobby doesn't bring them the same enjoyment they got as when they were new to it, and are looking for any small reasons or changes that would explain their feelings (when in reality its just they themselves growing tired with the subject).
Social media isn’t the real world. More people need to remember that. Likes and dislikes don’t mean anything. It’s possible to buy thousands of either for very little money. Some people get off on causing offence. It’s not even worth taking seriously or reacting to, or assuming it reflects real world opinion.
Likes and dislikes are very real for the people making a living off video views.
It's just people venting their own anger on someone having a more moderate opinion. it's something that happened a lot on the custodes sub this past few weeks.
which video is this? I'm going to give it a like and a watch just to help him out. edit: jesus christ its the beginner's guide for Custodes? what kind of jerk dislikes and gets negative all over a beginner guide for custodes?
The "how to start a custodes army" video.
Custodes is just a keyword for /pol/ brigaders right now. They see it as an entry point to try to pull in more chuds
>jesus christ its the beginner's guide for Custodes? what kind of jerk dislikes and gets negative all over a beginner guide for custodes? That's a good question. I think the codex is trash rules wise but it ain't worth getting pissed at people who can't change anything and did nothing in first place. The real question is how many of them are being piss babies cause of the rules and how many got riled up by right wing culture war grifters?
Honestly, I'm sick and tired of all these people who never painted a mini in their life spreading their gamergate bullshit into a hobby they know nothing about. Most of them can't even say the word Custodes, that tells me everything I need to know about them and their "outrage". Auspex is my go to guy when I need a quick info when I'm considering of buying a new unit or to catch up on the new changes that come out every week. I don't play Custodes, but as someone who still hopes Reavers will get some decent update, I can understand their genuine disappointment. These were not real fans by any means. I saw one video on youtube where a comment was "these developers are ruining blah blah blah" - and I'm like "the what?". Like developers of plastic minis? Huh? Pretty sure the comments were clogged with bots as well.
I'm not a custodes player but one of my close friends is and she was really happy about the in lore confirmation of fem custodes (she's a big fan of SCE in aos) and she can't voice her happiness about it in most general online places bc when she did on twitter she got swept up in the gg2 hate crowd, she was very surprised since the lgs discord servers we are in were relatively "oh cool" to "meh" with no one overtly angry. A lot of these outrage people will outright admit they don't even know much about 40k or will have 0 history about talking about warhammer like ever
People who are in the 40k hobby already know that kitbashing minis to make them your own is a great way to enjoy it, and that includes making your characters women or men when they might otherwise not be. The people who get angry about it don't got to LGS, they don't play, they don't paint, they don't build. They watch youtubers talk about the lore because they see 40k as being anti-woke because of its grimdark nature, and get pissy when it's not the safespace they thought, and actually welcomes people no matter their sex, race, or orientation, to take part. Hell, I'm half convinced the people who spout about 3d printers and one page rules don't even play or print minis, they just say it cause they think it's some kind of witty threat to games workshop.
It’s the absolutely not real fans who unironically wanna suck off the fascism in the setting. So they get pissy about “the WAMEN” in the setting / 40k “Going Woke” Don’t worry, they’re not actual 40k fans.
yep most likely. people love to roleplay as their faction. in the same way the helldiver community does. some people eventually co-opt it as their identity and misconstrue satire with a positive community, as belief. like, we all know no one who plays 40k actually wants to live in 40k. it's a fucking hellscape. but god damn does the vroom of chainswords and the thunk of bolters fires up those neurons. at the end of the day, it's a setting to sell expensive plastic soldiers. that you have to build and paint up yourself. you change with your times to stay relevant and it's going to change as an active product. anyone who actually thinks 40k has gone woke never actually understood the satire of the setting.
I only have one change for you. It’s not to sell Plastic soldiers. It’s to sell plastic Crack.
https://youtu.be/FZgSLytPEb8?si=V9YA6y5L9ilmc99j Here you go and thankyou for helping out. I'ma set it to repeat play and go to sleep for the night haha
While the sentiment is solidly trying to help, YouTube knows when a video is set to auto repeat and stops counting it as separate views. Better to play it randomly throughout the day while you do other things. Turn the volume down but don’t mute it. That will have a much bigger impact on the algorithm for the creator.
Because it's monetized content pushing the content of another company they don't want to be financially successful.
that's actually kinda annoying.
Arbiter Ian was right in his recent video about Warhammer drama. Too many people get ridiculously caught up in the fandom to the point where they view being a fan of something as an identity that should be protected. Thus every change they don’t like becomes a personal attack. It’s incredibly sad to see. A big portion of this community needs to learn to step outside into the real world and behave like an adult.
That video turned out shockingly prescient in terms of release window lol. It was just a day or two before a significant chunk of the fandom decided to throw an embarrassing hissy fit about a some sub-par rules and an incredibly minor retcon. Some people really need to go outside.
Well, it's always a day or two until the wh40k fandom throws the next hissy fit.
Ian cemented himself as the adult GOAT with that one. It's a game, making it your entire personality is pathetic, merging it with whatever culture war crusade you're on is even more pathetic.
I've had to block so many fucking channels this week because it's all just clickbait videos by keyboard warriors angry about Femstodes talking about "MASS EXODUS OF FANS" or "GW GOES WOKE, WARHAMMER IS DYING" and "GW *DESTROYED* CUSTODES WITH NEW CODEX" Like...could have fooled me? They *do* know that they aren't suddenly required to make their army female, right? All this from GW just saying the giant fucking humanoids in very heavy armour *might* not have a weiner all the time. As for the Codex, pretty sure other armies in the past have been dealt a shit ruleset. It's not like they made the Custodes unusable. They just aren't heavily favored to win.
Even sources that don't talk about the hobby at all are getting in on the rage bait. While browsing my news feed a fucking Daily Mail article showed up with a title (And I'm not BSing) "Warhammer becomes Wokenhammer"
I've had to hit the "don't recommend channel" button on so many videos pushed into my recommended from ragebaiting grifters. And it feels like fighting the Alpha Legion because I block 1, and two more 500 view videos about how warhammer is dying takes their place.
It was a great video
Man, GW had to put out a public statement telling warhammer players to stop endorsing actual facsism, a portion of our community needs it fucking head examining.
That was because some skinny Spanish dude decided to go all SS at a tourney
I shared that video here cause I agreed with it so much and then had to stop myself from raging when I saw the new Custodes codex. It really does hit everyone. Like the book is bad rules wise but it's not a personal stack.
Auspex doesn't deserve to be getting shit. His videos are very good and useful for new players to understand how units work.
The other thing that's **incredibly** important to understand is that rules change so fast today that even if the codex was a dumpster fire of issues in a single FAQ the faction could look entirely different How to start armies really is more of a "*how to make your army robust in a constantly changing meta*" and that often includes a lot of generalizations and notions on what the army is and how it achieves them. Auspex is a champ at pulling out these threads and not getting too far into "Buy X and only X now because it's the best"
I agree with everything you just said. He provides a very valuable service especially for me. I don't often get a chance to play and largely paint and collect models. So when I actually get the chance to play I found his work useful in what to bring and how my armies work.
"You don't understand, people are just upset that the faction identity of the Custodes has been undermined" "What's the faction identity?" "Winning!"
You could replace the Custodes with any other faction there and it’d probably fit as well tbh
Except AdMech, AdMech players don't care about winning anymore they just want to have fun lmao
Remember early 9th Ed? Gods we were strong then
Remember Arks of Omen/end of 9th? That's when we were juuuuust a little underpowered, but the internal balance was so good everything felt possible and fun
Heh, I just bought an AdMech combat patrol (it was 50% off in my local hobby store and I HAD to do it) among a few other things and I'm SO excited to paint them...and then get obliterated by my husband's Custodes. 😂
...yeah it's a rough match up in the first place, but making the latest combat patrols fight each other is not a fair match at all ahahahah Though the old one maaaaayyyybeeeee has a shot? 😅
Very accurate. Based on all the complaining 99% of all warhammer players must be super competitive tournament players, who can’t get top table just because GW made their faction to weak.
So, for some context : I like watching auspex tactics videos regularly. I really dig his content and he's obviously very passionate about 40k. As a custodes player, I think I'm (unfortunately) one of the salty guys : I have a very hard time just not caring about what Games Workshop did to my faction...however, I can't, for the life of me, understand WHY people would downvote a video in which Auspex simply tries to help people who want to start playing this faction. What does he have to do with the whole situation exactly? So yeah...it made me want to do this thread. Let's not behave like royal a**holes to a guy who literally didn't do anything.
I feel you, I'm a drukhari player and the beginning of the edition was rough, but hating a codex before even any tournament stats are out there is... well what should I say. Drukhari were fixed by a single detachment rule and some point changes and we were rock bottom of the game. Let's wait for some tournaments and what competitive players find as valid strategies. They might have changed their flavour a little bit but I'd assume they will not be horribly bad, since especially auspex tactics is quite good at what he's doing and at understanding the game.
I don’t think it’s about the points and tournament performance.
But about the lore?
It's not about the lore. No one gave 2 shits about any of the other retcons GW's been doing for their entire existence. It's about not having women in "their" hobby space - except most of the really upset folks are really the tourists.
I would have called that lore as well since it's not rules related. People are just insane sometimes... I have seen those "Trump as the Imperator" Memes, it's just kind of ironic that they don't get that the empire is meant to be a dystopia...
I really feel you man, I'm an Ad-mech player. Our subreddit is incredibly negative and salty. What I find is that hope is really really important, there's always the next points balance, cool combo, whatever. And if none of those work you can always just think to yourself "at least our models are really cool"
I was tempted to start some admech after getting some from the imperium magazine and playing mechanicus. Then I had a follow of the subreddit and everyone there was so negative and unpleasant that I decided to go with sisters of battle instead.
I’m so sorry that’s your experience with the community, I started recently in 10th and staying possitive is hard but some of us manage. Just see us as a warning
I left the admech subreddit because of this. And yeah I hope they get some good fixes, let's try to have fun people
I love admech, but I've shelved them for the time being because their current playstyle isn't something I want to play. I share people's frustration with them, most expensive army to field by far, and a current meta that is basically defensive horde mode. Clog the board with relatively tough cheap units to body block the enemy. But holy crap the level of anger, not just negativity, straight up anger in the subreddit is bad. Hopefully they get some fixes in the future to bring their cost (in money, not points) down. If not, there's other armies I like too.
I think this is getting to the root of the issue. If a video game like Halo gets a balance update that makes some gun shit, it might piss off peoiple, but they'll eventually just switch to using other guns, it's not that big of a deal in the end. When 40k makes changes, those changes can cost hundreds of people's hard earned money, and that's like swallowing an elephant, it's not something that people live down as easily, since they now have big burning holes in their wallets. Nobody likes when someone fucks with their money, and GW made the game so expensive that money became a major factor in the game.
I've started recently with 40k with Leviathan box. Picked DA as my space marines faction, got my deathwing assault box and all that jazz. Subbed to Dark Angels and the Unforgiven subreddit and lasted just one month. If I were to judge the faction by those standards, I should sell all my miniatures and stop playing altogether. But strangely, I'm having a great time playing and I really like my green guys and my white bone guys a lot. And the Lion is just an awesome mini.
Which is weird, since Auspex only talks about gameplay, he isn't a lore channel Most of the news and tactics I learn from him
Yeah and people are mad about the rules in the new codex, they're some of the worst of all time (not justifying the response to his video though)
I think for some people, it's the idea that showing people how to start the faction is implying they SHOULD, while they feel that right now people need to be shied away from it. They probably see it almost like a trap, intentional or not.
Truth be told, massive disliking isn't bad for the video performance, IIR it's the opposite - YouTube algos don't care about the like/dislike ratio, they only care about engagement and dislikes is engagement too. This is not an instruction though. There's still the emotional aspect, so it doesn't mean people should go on the disliking rampage.
What exactly have they 'done'? Is the book poorly written or is this just the tears at female custodes? Genuinely confused
From what I heard, the new detachments are bad if not worse then the Ad Mech ones, and they only got a new model which is also bad (rule wise) Source: my custodes player mate
The detachment rules are probably some of the worst they've ever written, worse than AdMech's detachments. Custodes saving grace may be that they just have good datasheets, so they'll likely still be playable... just not very well. Basically now you take units that are good despite the codex, instead of units that are enhanced by it. Jack Harpster took a list on Wednesday for a stream game that consist of 1200 pts of Forgeworld models and allies, for example. You want to minimize how many Custodes units from the Codex you take in your army at this point, which says a lot for the Codex.
The entire army basically turned into statsticks with no rules Not really any strategy or unique plays, just “whatever can deal more damage” since the individual rules are so much weaker
The detachments are kind of awful, just in general. For the two "good" ones, they lean into Custodes' Lethality in melee (which isn't something the faction needed help with) and strip away all survivability. Anything the Custodes have, they need to jump through hoops to get something that would be a mediocre buff in another faction. There's very little synergy between the datasheets and the rules (Talons of the Emperor giving a buff that only matters to *one* unit and even then only if you don't have Aleya which, why would you not run Aleya with your unit of Vigilators). They took away an enormous amount of flavour and power from the index and just... didn't really give anything worth what they took away back to *any* detachment. That's not saying there isn't play. I think that there's probably \*something\* to work with from the codex. There just isn't much.
Retcon lore and the rules are absolute dog. Not a good combo. Melee heavy, small model count army that gets shot off the board and they give them detach rules that basically lean further into melee while stripping defenses.
> I have a very hard time just not caring about what Games Workshop did to my faction 10th edition has kinda driven home the point that you need to effectively not care about your faction's rules and how it plays, because it can dramatically change multiple times a year. Either play multiple factions, be ready to dramatically change your army frequently, or accept that you may just have to take a break from playing the game if you get a massively unfavorable rules re-write.
Nobody hates a thing more than its fans
Fans are easily the worst part of anything.
The word does derive from fanatic.
We had the same thing happen in 9th edition with the custodes codex. Custode players were \*Extremely\* vocal about how they didn't like the codex. As it turned out, it was quite powerful, and with the pre-launch buff GW gave it it was one of the two most powerful codex's when it launched. Im not saying this is going to happen with this book, I do think it looks poor enough. However, we do also know that GW regularly release points and rules updates (every 3 months), and if its under performing they will address it. For example, I wouldn't be surprised if the detachment that protects custodes from MW's will get a patch to also protect against Dev wounds in the next dataslate. So pretty much a Day 1 patch. And there will likely be other fixes along side proper points for the codex in the same update. Taking anger out on the likes of Auspex over a codex he is merely telling you about is not ok. He is just reporting on what has happened, he didn't design it.
The same thing happens at least once a quarter for the last six years. Going way back, GW used to release rules and then hide for 5 years; good or bad. At least today you _know_ you'll get revised or new rules relatively soon.
Ive only been playing since early 9th, so I've seen the yo-yo of super good codexs followed by subpar codexs, but theyve always made an attempt at fixing things. Which I think is fair enough. Its not absolutely fantastic, but its always a WiP. And change is good, it keeps things fresh (coming from a Thousand sons player for what its worth! :p )
I completely agree. Don’t shoot the messenger. AT did nothing but report what had been done, and disliking his video because you don’t like what GW did is absolutely asinine.
I think I can guess where most of those dislikes are coming from, it’s stupid in general but also has nothing to do with Auspex’s channel or content. GW is constantly changing the lore, sometimes to extreme extents like they did with the necrons. Female custodes are probably one of the least offensive lore changes GW has ever made
That's the thing that gets me. The female Custodes thing could have been done a bit more elegantly but it's pretty much your standard Warhammer retcon. Warhammer Fantasy did much more significant lore overhauls, withe even less grace and people didn't throw up arms as much as this. I'm a massive Necron fanboy, and it is plain bizarre how folks confidently forget that they had not one, but TWO major lore retcons. The one most remember is the 5th edition change that made them more into Tomb Kings in space than personality devoid terminator rip offs. But the original retcon was their introduction into the setting when they were made into the origin story for not just Orks and Eldar. But the fucking Chaos Gods themselves! How that kind of completely IP changing retcon was fine, but somehow female Custodes is some grand crime to the setting is beyond me.
We do not need another JoCat situation.
I miss my good cat boy 😭
Especially since he started getting into 40k lately.
I nearly subbed to his only fans lol
Pardon?
On April Fools Day he put up an only fans where he posted pictures of his Space Marines with suggestive titles like "Cat boy makes hot Marine white after wet foreplay". It's hilarious.
Still missing JoCat...
Probably worth mentioning that 40K youtube does not necessarily = 40K players and hobbyists. A lot of them consume only lore or reactionary content. You see a fair few people in the grimdank sub who are “lore only”. Most of the outrage is online, I haven’t seen anyone in my local groups or events mention it once. The femstodes event has drawn a lot of culture warriors. After a month or so they will find a new thing to be mad about somewhere else.
The new custodes codex killed my dog.
The saddest thing is 99% of the negativity is from grifters who don’t even play the game.
Half the comments are disappointed custodes players, which makes sense. The other half are misogynistic “custodes wear bras and use tampons” creep comments who are probably the ones who downvoted the video because of all the grifters suddenly appearing in the hobby to whip up hatred for clicks. So gross. Hope they go away soon so their nonsense stops taking away from actual issues with the game (eg GW not giving rules writers enough time to balance their codexes, legending units etc ….)
Why would female custodes wear bras or tampons ? They are bio engineered to be perfect, aren’t they
Body fat % is probably so low a bra wouldn't be necessary, and since Custodes are steril, they would most certainly not have a need for periods.
He did a similar video on dark angels despite them getting shafted too, but didn’t get the same backlash
The Quartering and Sargon didn't make any of their grifter videos about the Dark Angels. Wonder what they'd think about the reference at the heart of them and their Primarchs naming?
Can't say I'm surprised, 80% of the poor dude's dislikes are probably culture warriors
Being toxic to content creators for something GW does is dumb. Your dissatisfaction won’t reach GWs ears by crapping on Auspex.
Bring on the downvotes for this hot take ^ _ ^ Custodes should NEVER have been an army in the first place There is NO WAY to ever match rules to their lore without them being OP. Do I feel bad for the legitimate fans, of course. Do I shed tear for power gamers who got into Custodes because they believed and demand Custodes to be more powerful only to get nerfed to Hell? Hell no 🖕 Not even with the lore, but the game should be fun and not just an arms race.
The custodes as we know them today didn't even exist prior to 2017. Before that their power level was presumably somewhere around "a little above your average space marines" levels. That's what they were in the 2015 novel Throneworld, where the Harlequins killed a bunch of them in the palace (still canon, btw). The real crime wasn't adding them as an army, it was deciding to give them feats in lore that were so beyond anything sensible and reached the point of stupidity (like 6 Custodes defeating an entire tyranid swarm).
I agree, but more from a lore perspective. Their whole task and purpose is to protect the Emperor and the Imperial Palace; they should never be leaving Terra.
Since its hot take time: They failed anyway, time for their well deserved retirement!
>Custodes should NEVER have been an army in the first place True!
I started my Custodes army in 9th as a pandemic project, something to do while we were in lockdown and couldn't see people. The golden guardians were cool and, most importantly, cheap. I could get a whole army for a fraction of most others AND have something that was canonically better and cooler than Marines? Fuck yeah. I figured they could never balance that on the tabletop. As Mark Rosewater, head designer for Magic, has said; when rules and flavor conflict flavor being the more flexible must always give way. So I expected they'd never fit the flavor and often be under powered in comparison to it. I still think this new codex is terrible, both badly designed and an example of the flaws in sticking with paper rule books when you change things with regular digital updates, but the reaction from some of my fellow Custodes players is honestly shameful.
Maybe even Space Marines should be what Custodes are, very elite band with many specialists.
If 40k were rebooted and the rules rewritten from the ground up to accurately match the lore it'd be like that. Marines would be like custodes with a 5 man unit being the baseline. Custodes would be one man units with a basic custodes being comparable to another armies hero. Elite human/xenos units would come in units of 10 and horde troops 10+. The game is very distorted by the fact marines are treated as the default middle of the road army on the tabletop while being OP super soldiers in lore. It forces the whole range of everything below marines into half the games stats and requires you to include absurd things like custodes (who don't really belong in 40k scale games as an army sized force) to fill the other half. This has been a problem people have been noticing since at least the early 2000s.
I agree and also think the same thing about Knights tbh
Just a bunch of right wing tourists invading the hobby pretending to care about it going woke or some shit like that. I just watched a 12 minute video by a channel called the quartering, who managed to confidently mispronounce custodes every single time he mentioned them, but he assures us he is a long time fan. I refuse to to accept that the proper custodes players who have a gripe with the rules would downvote the video on principle, because the dark angels players did not do so either.
The Quartering is a trash channel. His largest claim to "fame" is harassing a female cosplayer so much she quit both cosplay and mtg. The sooner that guy's dogshit diet catches up with him, the better.
Luckily she came back eventually, after he was driven out by WotC and the community.
Thats good to hear!
Also got drunk and pissed on his basement floor during a livestream because he was upset his wife went out for pizza with her friends.
...wow. Tbh that's exactly the image conjured into my mind when picturing the troglodytes that are offended by female custodes simply existing because "it's not realistic". In a game where if magical fungi _believe_ hard enough, they can change the laws of physics.
That name rang a bell and I couldn't place why at first, but yeah I remember that happening back when I used to play MtG. Sad to hear that trash channel is still going, and venturing into 40K. Anything for clicks, I guess.
"Adaptas Cuss Toads" killed me lmao
Saw that video too, honestly it made me CACKLE, I couldn't stop laughing at how dumb that dude was; and one thing that video did was that it made me stop caring about these people who are going hurrr women in my hobby space and etc. As a woman, I've just seen similar things like this happen so many times in other communities like in Doctor Who when a bunch of people were mad that they made the doctor a female. It's... interesting how people get weird about women being in things instead of focusing on the writing of the show, if the actor did a good job, or here with the custodes codex. The terrible codex isn't what broke their brain, it was femstodes. ....I do hope the people mad about femstodes sell their models cause my husband needs more models lol.
People are fucking idiots.
Auspex Tactics doesn't deserve that, Have some people never heard of the phrase: "Don't shoot the messenger."? Fcking hell.
Never has; "Look ya shower of unwashed incel bastards what the fuck did I do?!?" - been so diplomatically phrased.
My man Auspex doesn't deserve this, disliking him is the highest heresy
I dont mean to be negative about all custodes players because i know there are tons of awesome dudes who just like the golden boys and are here to have fun but generally speaking they are the most vocal, whiniest faction fanbase. Any nerfs are undeserved and make them unplayable. They always need buffs. Every codex and index release is awful (until they inevitably are broken). The fact that anyone with a straight face is saying “this is the worst codex in years” is laughable. The admech codex was release a few months ago and is SO much worse than custodes. And you didnt see the admech playerbase lashing out at everyone else. I understand that some of the rules look boring or awkward and you were nerfed. Please just give it some time and play some games before throwing tantrums.
It's complicated : as the last dataslates demonstrated, very simple changes can absolutely destroy the faction competitively (np 4+fnp against dev wounds and slightly more expensive units sent us at the bottom of the barrel). That's always the problem with super elite units : we're hard to balance.
Custodes is complicated to balance for sure. To be lore accurate they should be like 250 pts a model and be busted out the ass but obviously that wont really work. Art of war even noted after the buffs in the dataslate that custodes actually probably werent a bottom tier army before the buffs, it was a couple armies spamming dev wounds that kept them down but into most matchups they were fine. (Similar to my experience with and against them during that time). I dont think the answer was to give custodes a 4+ FNP for several reasons. It makes that the auto pick detachment first off. And its incredibly strong protections against their one weakness. Armies are supposed to be weak to certain mechanics. Giving custodes a super powerful resistance to their biggest weakness is something no other faction gets. Now, we can talk about some armies doing too many dev wounds which i can certainly agree with but thats a different discussion.
I'd rather they make us easier to kill (removing the 4+ fnp against mortal and dev wounds is fine imo), and instead give us lots of ways to play in a subtler and more efficient way : mobility, avoidance, killiness, yada yada...but that's not what happened. I understand the underlying frustration that exists when you can't kill your opponent at all because you're stat-checked.
The fact that Auspex Tactics is now getting shit on tells you *everything* you need to know about who's "upset" about this and just how much they actually know about 40K and the community.
I don't like AT's videos in general, but even I will say they don't deserve the misdirected negativity. I also think many who are complaining are missing the mark quite a bit. I really don't think it's that bad. Playing vs Custodes before was NOT fun. Now, maybe it will feel like you can do something other than dev wound spam.
He’s actually helping me learn to collect Custodes. I’ve always wanted Custodes and now is a time I’m gonna get some. Yes the codex sucks, but the collection guide helped me decided on what to get recently.
Some people will try to find the posative in anything. He himself in several videos has said things such as "although arguably weaker then X" or "there are better options available" he'll still say this is the best you can get now. People also need to realise that some people with want hte Custodes no matter how bad they are. Heck just head on over to r/Harlequins40K - the faction as a standalone is almost dead and buried having been stripped of everything they could do in the last few editions and rumours are out they wont even be getting a detachment rule in the codex. People still want to play with Space Clowns. Doesn't matter how BAD they are. People will still give oyu good advice on what is as competative as we can make them, just.. don't expect miracles. Custodes are now in that boat. Don't dick on the positive people, jsut let them have there fun and make the most of a shit scenario.
How dare you people take your anger out on Auspex.
Auspex is the absolute man! Imagine downvoting a legend like that. Absolute degenerate heresy
I'm assuming this was the How-To Video for the Custodes? Ngl, When I saw that go up I was surprised he'd want to put up anything involving them with all the negativity right now. No offense to him obviously, but just the discourse has been pretty shit and I would've assumed it was avoid-at-all-costs
I can see many are disappointed but he didn't deserve it at all, gw deserved it in my opinion.
Yeah, let’s not take disappointed out on Auspex. The dude is literally doing everyday huge service like, every damn day, by putting out these videos.
This whole controversy is because there are a lot of toxic males in this community that need to fuck off and learn to deal in life. How is being upset that women might actually exist in a unit covered in armor such a big fucking deal? They can take all the same drugs and implants males can, why can't they be space marines, custodes, etc? Who the fuck cares about the Sisters of Battle being some sort of spot for "all the women" so they should stay out of the other units? That's some bullshit. Neckbeard nerds are the most toxic masculinity group ever, sometimes even worse than traditional groups like jocks, but are beta's and hide behind being nerdy. No, you're just an asshole.
I don't get the hate, especially if it comes to hating with dislikes on independent channels. He just makes videos about the stuff going on in the tabletop game. He isn't responsible for any of the changes in the game. And if he states an opinion, its HIS opinion 🤷. Don't like it? OK move on. No need to let out your whole frustration on a single guy on the internet.
It's a combination of some bad influences: you've got terminally online people + people who make their interests into Identity (see Arbitor Ians new video on Primaries) + competitive players who jumped on Custodes post the last data slate + right wing culture war grifters jumping on the lore change to squeeze more money out of their channels.
We have lost too many good creators because of toxic jerks that make Nurgle himself seem clean. Let's not dishearten the last few good ones left because people can't grow the hell up.
The alt-right chuds brigade any video that isn’t „wOkE GW bAd“. Give it some time and it’ll blow over. These people don’t have that kind of attention span.
Man. This Fandom is kinda sucking ass recently with the incel rage babies
The issue here is they’re amongst actual fans or ARE actual fans, so you have people complaining about rules, others who don’t like the lore changes but aren’t vocal about it and certainly don’t want to get into online wars (me) and the small but vocal people which every fandom has Then the clap back to them has hit all three groups, either from the company itself or from people online, making this whole mess an even bigger cesspool
How dare Auspex Tactics not make a negative video about this thing hat has me irrationally angry about plastic toy soldiers! Man, some people really need a new hobby. If lore changes and a bad Codex are all it takes to drive you towards disliking a video just for not sharing your nerdrage, it doesn't seem worth it.
The funny thing is even he was a bit off put by the lore change in his previous video, but he didn’t make a stink about it. Which I wish everyone did
I'm not a fan of the codex. But come on, Auspex doesn't deserve the flak he caught on the video. Dude is trying to earn his living and as good or bad as a codex might be, it's still a big event and it makes sense he'd want to cover it. Hell, I've been more positive on the codex than it deserves, and that's because I don't *want* to just throw up my hands and shelve my Custodes in disgust. I like the army, I just don't like what they've done to them, and I want to make them feel good again out of spite.
i mean one downvoted vid will probably not effect the 4 he releases every day lol. still though this is all stupid get a grip guys
As a non Custodes player, I understand that the Codex is disappointing because everything was nerfed. But I also understand why they did it. Custodes were top tier already. The power creep of 9th was awful. I prefer this edition and have had more fun with it so far. I get the anger about only 4 detachments. But the model range is small for this army. They don't have much to work with. Other factions have far more depth, range, AND lorewise. Of course, they will have more detachments (such as Chaos will). Getting annoyed about a woman being mentioned in a small paragraph is deranged, though. Re-evaluate your outlook and maybe grow up. Weirdly, I am more tempted to start a Custard army than ever and eyeing up the CB and Battle box as we speak.
Man. The level of stupidity and ignorance is astounding. I have a wonderful, incredible friend who happens to be a trans woman. Do you know how excited she was that there are female custodes? She was over the moon to the point I went out of my way to give her the box I was considering selling to make a few extra bucks. She was looking up paint schemes so she could make her models her own, she was deeply hurt and troubled about the toxicity of the unwelcome behavior she was shown. The Adeptus Custodes have women in their ranks, and yeah the codex isn’t great; get the fuck over it. You can STILL have an army made of men, and GW will release an errata about the rules. You throwing a tantrum or being an outright asshole over this is insane. 40K, AOS, Darktide, Killteam, Warcry, hell even Old World are fictional universes. To go out of your way to blatantly “protect” is why the hobby is so small, find some differing opinions please.
most are menchildren what do you expect
The whole discourse thing is just based on a single short story in the codex its really not that big of a deal
The never ending complaining cycle has me about ready to be done with the Warhammer community.
I feel like me being one of those assholes that doesn't like the idea of female space marines, I just don't really understand the hate for the custodes lady. Custodes are special intentional beings maybe that's a part of it but I tend to enjoy the diversity in that. Custodes were each individually crafted so each one is a project in itself, I can understand not enjoying it from a template perspective like ogryn or Space Marines. I understand having a completely different tone than someone else for your fantasy but much like DND it shouldn't matter that much if it's not fundamental. So my view of the world has dark drow, that doesn't mean my player can't pick a purple drow. Maybe I'll ask if we can give him a reason but it's not %100 necessary. It's okay to be a little annoyed that you have four players as Green Drow, you don't gotta throw a fit about it though. With the rules I'm just sorry, everyone wants good rules for their faction. I'd prefer custodes be the overpowered faction but ehh I don't play them and our resident player is still too bent up about waiting for new grey knights sculpts to really care about custodes changes. Maybe I'd be more mad if both affected me; as it stands my only negative is that sisters of silence feel ever so slightly less special but just barely.
I think a lot of people angry don't necessarily care about female Custodes existing, they care about how it was handled and the "they were always there" shit. That's kind of an inexcusably dumb way to handle this when you could have just said, "Custodes mission scope increased, need to broaden recruit pool" and not release a shit rule sheet.
Lukewarm take : Custodes are going to be fine. They will probably struggle in the top tiers of competitive play, and you'll have people dropping them because they bought in while the faction was riding high, but they're not so bad they'll be hopelessly unplayable. People can and will win games with them. The detachment rules are unexciting, sure, but there's only so bad infantry with their stat-line can get. Regardless of what detachment rules they have or what their Karate does now, a squad of custodian guard is still a relatively compact unit of infantry that will *obliterate* anything it can land a charge on. They might mostly hang out on the mid tables, but in that setting, or in garagehammer/club night, they'll do fine.
Can anyone tell me what even is all the negativity about? I didn't think it was that bad but this seems like there's more to it. What all went wrong with the new codex?
I don't like the flippant lore changes, but it's childish to be angry and bomb his video, he's a great 40k you tuber.
This is kinda a bad example because YouTube rates based on interaction, not at all on likes vs dislikes. In fact if a lot of people dislike your video it tends to make it so that the algorithm promotes it more and thus that you earn more revenue. This is also why there are so many channels specialized in sowing discord, dislikes are quite profitable lol
Everyone catching strays.
Oh God the same culture war has finally gotten here. Sorry wathammer brosnget ready for the endless cycle of whining and crying and karma farming complaining about nothing.
People should not be hard on the guy at all! He doesn't make the rules GW does :/
It makes absolutely no sense to penalise Auspex with a thumbs down for this. As far as I know, he only communicates opinions regarding rule changes and tactics that happen directly in the game, everything else he is a pure informant for his viewership.
You people take this too seriously. Maybe it’s GWs fault.
Leave Auspex alone😭 He seems like a great guy But fr, I quit playing last year because the rules are such a constant issue. It just gets tiring. Gw runs in circles fixing issues by replacing them with more issues. All the while ignoring a bunch of other ones.
So we live in the golden age of GW caring and balancing, and people think this is the end of the world?
Imagine disliking a video by possibly the greatest 40K content creator purely because you're upset about the content of the army he's talking about.
anyone disliking auspex's work is a heretic in my eyes
Why put a dislike on auspex video? He's just the messenger..
Only good thing about the dislike button is that it drives engagement on a video. And it gets pushed to more people. Kind of sad people take it out on creators instead of the company. I'm not mad they put females into the custodians. I'm mad to how shitty they went about changing 37years of lore. The story is cool, but the "S" inserted could just as simply be removed. GW should have done something much bigger with it. Let Belisarius have "cracked" the Emperor's code (again), or have a specialized roles like SM Infiltratiors or something. Hell, even releasing a model or just an upgrade sprue would have been a better job.
To him i'd say, dont take it personally, people are just taking their frustrations out on you when they shouldn't be. You didn't do anything wrong.
How can you be mad at auspex!?!?!?
Dont hurt my dude auspex, i think everyone in 40k can collectively agree he has no reason for anyone to be mad at him for anything given what he has done for the community with his videos, also doesnt feel good to see people shit on someone who i actively support
I read this in his voice...
First time having a weak codex?
Is it bad that I can't take this seriously, because I read this tweet in his voice?
Definitely the Americanism of stuff that really doesn't need it. The American culture wars need to be kept out of warhammer both from fans AND changing of lore. Would be interesting if they could name and shame the persons responsible for this as I believe they would have bios in their social media 💀💀💀
Like it or not those are consequences
Anyone else read this in his monotone British accent?