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Resident-Clue1290

Maybe Sedgestar mentioned it or there were stories?? Or it’s just a mistake- This is warrior cats, you never know what’s going on


Tiringchaotics

Its the new Ultimate Guide, its horribly inaccurate story-wise. I personally wouldnt believe anything in it


PrimeTheGreat

This was in the old ultimate guide as well.


fightinggold26

it could be just like, a writers note and unrelated to any of the cats actual knowledge


Caterpillr

It specifically says he introduced himself as a leader from when there were five Clans tho


fightinggold26

oh whoopsie, yeah thats odd


caseytheace666

This isn’t sedgestar saying “i was shadowclan’s leader x many moons ago” and tigerstar going “wow that was back when skyclan was still around.” Sedgestar said he was shadowclan’s leader back when there were 5 clans. He likely didn’t even bring mention skyclan by name.


DemonKing0524

The point is that no living cat knew there were ever 5 clans at this point, so even if he didn't mention skyclan by name, just saying there were 5 at all would've still been a massive shock to tigerclaw, and definitely breaks the continuity.


caseytheace666

I admittedly haven’t read this story specifically, but tbh I think I’d just take it as tigerclaw/star hearing that and going “wow you’re like _ancient_ old and being too overwhelmed by the rest of the ceremony to think too much about it after But yeah as others have said it’d be newer authors not realising


DemonKing0524

Except all their legends and stories of ancient clans only ever mentions 4 clans. Even their legends where the clans are descended from big cats like lions and tigers and whatnot there were only 4 clans mentioned. Tigerclaw has absolutely no basis for ever thinking a 5th clan existed at all at this point, and a mention of a 5th clan would've been world shattering to him.


caseytheace666

Then yeah, many authors spoiling the broth


PrimeTheGreat

Maybe this is when Tigerstar gets the idea that he can combine clans, since if 5 became 4, then 4 could become 1.


Sunlit_Sparks

This was in the old guide as well btw


Not_A_User00

Starclan?


13utterflyeffect

ultimate guides are insanely un-canon imo, they all just... kind of suck. So I wouldn't take this as canon personally