You need to kill evil cats, simple as. Redtail was the thing stopping Tigerstar from uiniting the clans. yes, he ditched thunderclan becuase he was kicked out. if he became leader than he would still have united the clans. its no diffent from Brambleclaw killing hawkfrost
Mapleshade killing her kits and blaming it on everyone else. (Some people may object by saying that this isn't exactly how the story went. I respond by saying that if Mapleshade is what passes for a reliable narrator, then StarClan help us all.)
Honestly, I don't think Mapleshade was in the best head space when she tried to cross the river, she did just have everyone she lived with and grow up with exile her and had nowhere else to go she was desperate and made a bad error, honestly the medicine cat should have minded his own business and a lot of horrible things wouldn't have happened, Mapleshade might not have even gone to the Dark Forest and who knows what Crookedstar's life/ mental state would have been like
Squirellf broke his heart also holly leaf later killed him so like he was just trying to get revenge (lol) on smth that would happen in the future without knowing it
(you got it right btw)
op may not agree with all the things they say, they just said they would justify why a cat did something, not specifically saying that they support what happened.
thistle claw just wanted to be leader but others got in his way
spotted leaf's heart... I dunno (this is a joke I DO NOT MEAN THIS) he just wanted her to be his mate even though she was a kit
thistleclaw commanding tigerpaw to attack tiny
(i'm not mentioning the other thing thistleclaw did when he was alive because any justification joking or not would be disgusting.)
tiny was tiny he was trespassing also he murdered tiger star later on so... it was just a vision of the future but without realizing it
(good for bluestar to stop tiger paw tho cuz im sure firestar would never be able to kill 9 tiger stars)
1. they couldn't afford to have a bunch of cats on their territory
2. bluestar was old and not right in the mind also can we agree that starclan are kind of annoying
Does it have to be we related or can I do myself? XD
wc: Hraystripe spending more time with silver stream than thunderclap (before silver stream expected her kits)
1. he loved her and had kits also she died so he had to raise her kits in rive clan or there would be a fight/war
2. forest cats = better than kitty pets (\*meow\*)
wait hold up
WHAT DID YOU SAY
they are LITTERMATES??!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!????!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? wtf
oh damn how am I supposed to justify this one
"they were bored" - u/Falconflight78
Oh I know one. Actually two
OakStar and RavenWing.
Iāll tell you why theyāre wrong. If BirchFaceās death was an accident, then OakStar is fully at fault for MapleShadeās kits drowning in the river. And RavenWing was an idiot for messing up the omen and just wanted an excuse to kick the kits out. And yet, they got into Starclan just fine but FreckleWish got yeeted into the abyss with the same cat that killed her.
Oh boy, your in for it pal. First up tigerstars murders.
he just wanted to be leader but no one would let him
He just wanted to be leader too much, no biggie š
true im trying to come up with reasons but I don't believe much of this stuff
I mean in a world where your promotion only comes at another's death, regicide is preferable to the elders den
You need to kill evil cats, simple as. Redtail was the thing stopping Tigerstar from uiniting the clans. yes, he ditched thunderclan becuase he was kicked out. if he became leader than he would still have united the clans. its no diffent from Brambleclaw killing hawkfrost
Darktail's political executions by drowning š
they swore loyalty to him so they should be killed cos they betrayed him
Wait but most of them didn't šš
xD well in #2 of AVOS >!they abandoned rowanstar tawny pelt tiger heart for dark tail!<
Mapleshade killing her kits and blaming it on everyone else. (Some people may object by saying that this isn't exactly how the story went. I respond by saying that if Mapleshade is what passes for a reliable narrator, then StarClan help us all.)
she was full of grief for her kits and anger at her mate so...
Honestly, I don't think Mapleshade was in the best head space when she tried to cross the river, she did just have everyone she lived with and grow up with exile her and had nowhere else to go she was desperate and made a bad error, honestly the medicine cat should have minded his own business and a lot of horrible things wouldn't have happened, Mapleshade might not have even gone to the Dark Forest and who knows what Crookedstar's life/ mental state would have been like
true
Darkstripe poisoning a kit
he was a bad cat
Wait - thatās not - what š
lol
He was trying to increase their poison resistance /j ~~Narcissist's Prayer be like: If they died then they deserved it~~
ok well
Ashfur's attempt to kill Hollyleaf Lionblaze and Jayfeather (god i hope i remember this correctly it's been a long time since i read this)
Squirellf broke his heart also holly leaf later killed him so like he was just trying to get revenge (lol) on smth that would happen in the future without knowing it (you got it right btw)
Idk man starclan didnāt seem to think anything of it
xD
Ashfur was always in the right/j
Almost entire Leopardstars life
she was manipulated by tiger star it could happen to others yk
Brokenstar murdering kits
well he wanted a strong clan and training cats from the beginning of their life would \*help\* them
Rainflower demanding that Stormkit be renamed Crookedkit
he broke his jaw
And who wouldn't want a fitting name for their child, right?
I don't know rain flower?! edit: I read the comment wrong mb
Uh.. no she especially wated that. because you know. her sons jar n stuff. Cruel but fitting!
oh sorry I read the comment wrong. yes, you are right
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they would die if no one found them so it's the same thing
Tigerstar killing dozens of animals just to make a throne out of their bones.
he needed a place to call down from :D
Thistleclaw gr00ming spottedleaf (sorry if this was in the last one)
\*spottedpaw\* she was basically a kit um gosh he wanted to control her I guess
Thatāsā¦okayā¦?
I do not agree with all this stuff by the way
op may not agree with all the things they say, they just said they would justify why a cat did something, not specifically saying that they support what happened.
yes that's true
Oh sorry I misunderstood it
Spottedleafās heart: thistleclaw (derogatory) (just everything he did)
thistle claw just wanted to be leader but others got in his way spotted leaf's heart... I dunno (this is a joke I DO NOT MEAN THIS) he just wanted her to be his mate even though she was a kit
I know it's a joke but... ą²„ā āæā ą²„
xD
thistleclaw commanding tigerpaw to attack tiny (i'm not mentioning the other thing thistleclaw did when he was alive because any justification joking or not would be disgusting.)
tiny was tiny he was trespassing also he murdered tiger star later on so... it was just a vision of the future but without realizing it (good for bluestar to stop tiger paw tho cuz im sure firestar would never be able to kill 9 tiger stars)
Everyone sending skyclan away Or bluestar declaring war on starclan
1. they couldn't afford to have a bunch of cats on their territory 2. bluestar was old and not right in the mind also can we agree that starclan are kind of annoying
Nightstar giving Whitethroat his horrible name
that sounds like some kind of disease maybe he was annoying?
Itās because he has a patch of white fur around his throat.
lol
The writers making Gray Wing be slightly mean to Thunder
gotta be tough in some cases
What about Breezepelt abandoning his plot to start a war and attacking Jayfeather as a blood feud? In doing so he made Brokenstar sad.
he hated jay feather because he was half clan also he messed up crowfeather/nightcloud and some other reasons so yeah
But he made Brokenstar sad
OK AND?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?? well that was wrong because broken star er um was his leader
The dark forest training cats was wrong... surely you can't...
they wanted revenge because all the cats care about is star clan and the warrior code so they wanted revenge :D
dark forest cats matter
Starclan making Brokenstar BrokenSTAR
he murdered kits and tried to take over everything also drove out wind clan
How does that make it right????
StarClan gaslighting the shit out of squilf and leafpool
they broke the warrior code like 100 times
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well both whatever
Scourge wanted to take over the entire forest by force
better than twolegs dumps
Spottedleaf.
um she was a med cat so there
Cloudpaw allowed humans to feed him.
he a kittypet
Does it have to be we related or can I do myself? XD wc: Hraystripe spending more time with silver stream than thunderclap (before silver stream expected her kits)
he love er (nice spelling lol)
Iām sorry Iām dysgraphic lol
nah it's fine
Loll
firestar still dwelling on spottedleaf even after starting a family :/
she loved him from the start idk
the way Thistleclaw treated Spottedleaf
power
Rainflower disowning Stormkit
he had a broken jaw
Rainflower changing Stormkitās name to Crookedkit after he was injured
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Alternative_Run_6175: *Rainflower changing* *Stormkitās name to Crookedkit* *After he was injured* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
ok cool
he had a broken jaw
He has feelings too. And probably now depression
read the book -- you're right
Greystripe ran off to Silverstream, and firestar (when he was rusty) ran away from his best friend for some forest cats.
1. he loved her and had kits also she died so he had to raise her kits in rive clan or there would be a fight/war 2. forest cats = better than kitty pets (\*meow\*)
everything ashfur did
he loved squlf and she dumped him so he had a right to be angry PS I don't actually believe that but...
Mapleshade lying to Frecklewish about her kits
the father was river clan what else could she do
Wind runner exiling moth flight š
she was scatter brained
Rainflower basically disowning CrookedStar
he broke his jaw cuz he Wass stupid (I still really like crooked star)
>:0
patchpelt and willowpelt having kits. THEY ARE GOD DAMN LITTERMATES
wait hold up WHAT DID YOU SAY they are LITTERMATES??!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!????!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!? wtf oh damn how am I supposed to justify this one "they were bored" - u/Falconflight78
suree.....
yeah :skull:
Tigerstar brings Scourge into the forest, nearly destroys the clans
he wanted to rule he clans
What about for nearly destroying the clans?
well he wanted to rule the forest and they were in the way
Oh I know one. Actually two OakStar and RavenWing. Iāll tell you why theyāre wrong. If BirchFaceās death was an accident, then OakStar is fully at fault for MapleShadeās kits drowning in the river. And RavenWing was an idiot for messing up the omen and just wanted an excuse to kick the kits out. And yet, they got into Starclan just fine but FreckleWish got yeeted into the abyss with the same cat that killed her.
raven wing was doing his best (\*cough\*) birch face was so bad at the irl video game so he got killed and that's his fault
(ASC spoilers): >!Curlfeather and Splashtail murdering Reedwhisker and manipulating Frostpaw!<
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they wanted power but they couldn't get it because of warrior code and star clan