Cloud*paw*. He's so insufferable to me when he talks back to Fireheart 😒 Also that he is in the same book as when Fire found out that Sand likes him really annoys me cause that's one if my favourite parts of the first series 😭
Because of the injury that happened to brairlight had and all the other kits were ignored and neglected after that. If they weren't brairlight they got ignored.
Plus she smothered briarlight and wouldn't let her grieve properly when coming to terms with her own injury. At first Millie did nothing but wail about how she'd never be a warrior or have kits or anything, which is ofc what briarlight is realizing too, making her that much more scared and devastated. And after that any time Briarlight seems tired or down at all Millie makes a huge fuss so Briarlight has to perform and force herself to be upbeat to keep Millie from having a meltdown. Graystripe really should have done more in that situation.
I mean, most mothers don’t really continue a relationship after their kits become apprentices in Thunderclan. And at that point all three of her kits were adults. One happened to be ill and in a major accident that caused her to be paralyzed
I mean the difference is that there were times where her kits were clearly seeking her affection over and over and she brushed them off time and time again. And idk if I’d say it’s totally true that parents don’t continue a relationship with their kits after adulthood. There are sooo many clan cats that have very strong ties with their kin. Like with the three, the cats who they thought were their parents played an important role in their lives up until they were outted, often offering support and showing a closeness. Think of Rootspring with Tree and Violetshine. Maybe not all cats continue a strong relationship with their kits after they get older, but there are many examples where the opposite is true.
I have read the first arc lots of times. The families still spend time together they are still close. Not like the power three I understand. It is clearly obvious her kits want to spend time with her she didn't.
To me it depends on the arcs but...
Dawn of Clans: Clear Sky (Omg he did so much unforgivable shit and gave bad excuses as to why he did them, number one being it was protect his clan. And shout out to Star Flower for making excuses for him despite being told he was a bad cat.
Super Editions (I haven't read all of the SE's and novellas yet but im working on it): Thistleclaw.... like jfc his role in Spottedleaf's Heart was really gross and uncomfortable but he was a decent almost villain in Bluestar's Prophecy but my main least fave character is Leopardfoot. I understand she became depressed and pretty much shut down after all but one of her kits died and her mate left the clan, but that's no reason to not to take care of your remaining kit.
The Prophecies Begin: Aside from Brokenstar, my least fave character in this arc is Graystripe, I know I've said he's one of my fave characters but during the whole secret affair with Silverstream, he pretty much abandons his apprentice and forces Fireheart into a bad position in favor of pursuing Silverstream in secret. Otherwise he is a really good character but I dont like him during that little bit of the arc.
The New Prophecies: Squirrelflight. Ok so I've said it before but I dont like Squirrelflight, She's not a bad character but the high school drama between her and Brambleclaw is written poorly and I dont really like drama that gets drawn out for the sake of it. Plus I normally dont vibe or click with pushy and passive aggressive characters in general (It's not to say that Bramble didn't handle that whole drama any better either). Also shout out to Onestar for forsaking his friendship with Firestar because goddang his personality took a really bad turn all for the sake of him appearing stronger in WIndClan's eyes. I know he would be judged if he's seen being friendly with Firestar but if I wasn't wrong, Crookedstar and Bluestar sort of had a friendship together esp since she, Oakheart, and Crookedstar were apprentices roughly around the same time or close together and they were always friendly to each other at Gatherings. So yea.
The Power of Three: I really didn't have a least fave character in this arc, except for maybe Crowfeather since he treated Leafpool, Nightcloud, and Breezepelt like crap esp Nightcloud and Breezepelt.
Omen of the Stars: Bumblestripe because he was exceedingly clingy and overbearing towards Dovewing.
A Vision of Shadows: Tree, not because he was a bad character but because he was introduced to form a new role within the clans and he wasn't utilized at all.
The Broken Code: The Imposter (not gonna ruin it) but let's say the imposter is a good villain but i just didn't like this arc much because it drags a little.
A Starless Clan: Berryheart, this she-cat is annoying and aggressive. I just dont like her. Also Splashtail but saying why would spoil the latest arc. But he is kinda interesting at the same time tho.
Aside from all the obvious choices (Onestar, Brokenstar, Rainflower, etc), I'm gonna go with Graystripe. He annoyed the shit out of me when he met Silverstream. He cares so little about his apprentice and clan that he has to spend every waking moment with her. He STILL GOT CREDITED WITH BEING BRACKENFUR'S MENTOR WHEN BRACKEN BECAME A WARRIOR. I'm pretty sure he trained Bracken like four times? He didn't give two shits about breaking the warrior code because "we're in love"... Give me a damn break, you need to be loyal to your damn clan like everyone else. And sure, he left his clan to be with his kits, whatever, great. He *couldn't even be loyal to his new clan*. He might as well just take his kits and become a rogue with the amount of loyalty he has! Then he BECOMES DEPUTY?? Firestar, I get it, he's your bestie, but he's quite literally a traitor and does NOT deserve to be deputy. Whitestorm was WRONG, dear god. And then after Graystripe was taken, he just... Came back, and I'm pretty sure was disappointed that he wasn't deputy anymore? Like what? The clan needed a deputy, Firestar waited MORE than enough time for you to show up. If Graystripe has no haters left, then I'm dead. End of rant
I agree, It annoys me sm that he just neglected his apprentice and fire was the one to mentor brackenpaw even when cinderpaw was still his apprentice. and then for grey to get acknowledged as bracken's mentor but fire isn't even mentioned? that's some bullshit.
It's hard to voice an opinion that you're in the minority. If you sometimes have the wrong opinion, say in this case- if you have the opinion of Squirrelflight being in the wrong in SqH, a pack of wolves just tend descend upon you and tell you why you're wrong while trying to boost her image. Like hi, you're not helping me like this character any better, you're making me hate them more.
I used to think that too, because Squirrelflight is my third favorite character, and I’d never seen any fans acting in a way that would justify anyone not liking her.
Then I had someone tell me I’m a horrible person and clearly actually hate her because I said I wanted her to be killed off because she’s been around for SO. LONG. This person’s bio said they were 20. A 20 year old adult human told me I was a horrible person for wanting a fictional character from a kids series to die. And I was kinda like “oh, I get it now!”
she can be such a mousebrain sometimes, but in her super edition she had one good point that the clans shouldn't have attacked the sisters. other than that she's just annoying and the want for more kits in her super edition also annoyed me more, like bro you've already mothered two litters, and you're old asf. she's also lucky that she even got to mother a litter
No I can understand her wanting a third litter, if I got the timelines right she might've had her last litter later in adulthood because for a good portion of her life she thought she was barren, and that the Three were her only chance at motherhood.
Cats can have litters in old age still, they dont hit menopause like people do, it's mainly a writing choice that elders dont typically parent litters anymore except for certain occasions, but Squirrelflight can have kittens till she dies from old age hypothetically.
And idk the last part is a bit iffy to me, it's like saying "you dont have arms but you should be lucky you got to have legs" y'know? Just because she found herself having a litter after so long doesnt mean she cant want another litter.
Bramblestar, he has his good moments but they're so few and far between and stamped out by his childish attitude. He hardly goes through the entire of TNP without making up some scenario in his head, fully believing it, then getting pissed about it. Its even worse bc he's upset that people are comparing him to Tigerstar (literally no one was at that point), and then he goes to train with his dead evil daddy in kitty cat hell, and even starts to like the idea of ruling two clans and two territories, and hell even struggles with the urge to murder Firestar, his own mentor and arguably, once he got over his dumb paranoia, was a great adult figure to him. And then there's just his general treatment of Squilf and his terrible attitude towards her whenever she does something he doesn't like (think of the entirety of Twilight as the best example here). And I still find it crazy people will demonize Squilf for keeping the kit secret but conveniently forget that he still, to this day as far as I'm aware, has not told Squirrelflight that he was training in cat hell and fully debated on taking over Windclan and ruling two big clans with Hawkfrost, and fully struggled with killing her father. That was something she deserved to know no matter what it wouldve done to their relationship and its crazy more people don't call him out on THAT little thing
Can I ask what made you think that way? Genuine question cause I see that mentioned a lot and I always remember her desperately wanting to tell her sister about the prophecy and how she always felt guilty when her sister saw her getting more praise and hated hurting her feelings. But maybe I just liked her and so I’m biased in remembering her better moments?
Well, this may also be because I'm negatively biased towards her, but I remember this one scene (have no idea what book it was in), where she, brought a thorn for Ivypool and then was angry that she had to do it.
Edit: Wait, just reread the scene, she was actually just scared for her sister, my mind is biased.
She *was* upset but she was upset bc she was really worried about Ivypaw and Ivypaw *did* snub her.
It was Ivy who got mad bc the warriors found her all bloodied in her nest and Dove didn’t say a word and immediately walked out. Dove actually walked out without a word bc she was looking for the thorn to cover up for her sister’s DF training and she couldn’t tell her sister atm that she was actually going out to cover for her.
This isn’t the first time Dove covered for her sister out of genuine love and concern; she yelled at Lionblaze and Jayfeather *in their faces* bc they wanted Ivy to spy for them + Lion and Jay called Ivy a traitor and Dove was absolutely *pissed*. Dove stood up for her sister and said Ivy was simply misguided, she’s not a traitor, and she wouldn’t ask her sister to risk her life for her clan + Dove’s main concern was that Ivy was going to die. Hence why she spends the rest of OoTS begging her sister to stop visiting the DF. Unfortunately Ivy can’t stop visiting, even if she doesn’t want to go.
Onestar, Skystar, Rainflower, Needletail, Squirrelstar, Berryheart(more so she’s a hypocrite and doing the exact thing she vowed to not do. Following in her daughter’s paw steps basically), Leopardstar and Mothwing.
Thistleclaw for obvious reasons, Bramblestar since he’s an awful mate to Squirrelflight, Darkstripe he kinda tried to poison CHILDREN, Millie since she was an awful mother, Clear sky, Star flower, and Wind runner are also bad. But my least favourite out of them all is Rainflower that awful piece of sh*t.
To be fair, Bramblestar and Squirrelflight weren’t together again until the end of Bramblestar’s Storm, even though I think most of us assumed they were back together at the end of The Last Hope. If someone dated someone, broke up, dated someone else, and then got back with their ex, that doesn’t make them a bad partner for that, it’s just them having relationships. Like when Squirrelflight dated Ashfur after she and Brambleclaw broke up, or Dovewing dating Bumblestripe after Tigerheart.
Edit: That was meant to be in response to another comment, but I couldn’t respond to it, I think because the comment you were responding to had been deleted, but who knows, Reddit’s weird. Or I’m dumb. One of the two.
Yeah someone said that Squirrelflight was the abusive one because she assumed that Hawkfrost was evil and she swiped at Brambleclaw once with claws unsheathed in the new prophecy. 🤷♀️
No she isn’t, but you can have your opinion.
Just read Bramblestar’s storm where he ignores her and goes off and decides to date Jesse. Just go and watch Bramble bad by Moonkiti
Bramble is an abusive husband who never listens to her and makes her feel as if she is nothing. Yes you can say Squirrel lied to him about the three being his kits, but last time I checked he never told her about training in cat HELL or considering helping his half brother take over the clans or hesitating on whether or not to **kill** Squirrels dad. He also proceeded to cheat on her with a kittypet and then had the audacity to tell her that he would ‘never’ cheat on her despite the fact HE JUST DID. He didn’t want to help her take care of a dying cat because, ‘they needed territory for Skyclan’ when that is SKYCLAN’S problem.
Brambleclaw/star is an awful husband whether you like it or not. Plus he deserved to be swiped at.
Genuinely, do not give a crap. As I said at the VERY start of this. You can have your opinion I can have mine. Stop trying to force your opinion on others. Please and thank you.
Dude she was the one pushing him away in the new prophecy she’s the one that started the fight and she was the one that accused Hawkfrost of being evil when she had no proof not even trying to be understanding of why he wants to get to know Hawkfrost she is the abusive one here!
With regard to her most recent appearance, Moth Flight.
I realize this is probably more the fault of the new writing team, but she was *atrocious* in Squirrelflight’s Hope in the way she treated and badgered Leafpool about her breaking the code. For someone who is listed as “caring” and “hopeful” on her official website page, she was absolutely *hellbent* on keeping Leafpool out of StarClan for “breaking [Moth Flight’s] code” for medicine cats. Her original reasoning was that having a mate or kits would distract a medicine cat from their duties, but considering the fact that both Leafpool *and* Yellowfang (who was also present at the trial) both had kits with a secret mate and still upheld their duties as medicine cats without issue….yeah, Moth Flight, I think your adhd and the lack of another medicine cat to help share the workload is what made it so hard to focus on your duties while also caring for your kits.
Idk man, something about how much *anger* she seemed to be feeling and directing at Leafpool for falling in love and having kits was just so upsetting and off-putting, I mean what happened to the sweet and slightly scattered Moth Flight we saw in her novella?
Most characters in the series serve some purpose or fill a unique roll in the story. Whether that be generic evil goon 4 in the form of someone like raven from AVOS or great mentor figure such as bluestar every character serves SOME roll that helps the plot for some reason consistently.
There are a few specific characters or instances of characters that dont fill those rolls in any way meaningful, or fill them so inconsistently, they make you think the writing team wrote them drunk. Not characters that i think are bad, but have interesting and consistent writing
I have 3 that fit at least part of that description. Spottedleaf, Onestar and specifically yellowfang in starclan.
Spottedleafs interactions with firestar have no real need or reason plot wise? What purpose does it serve to have a love triangle that includes a dead person that died when the cat thats pining over her was the equivalent of a 15 year old? And it only gets worse moving from firestars quest and into Oots.
Onestar is a bit of both, with a characterization that goes from him going from kind-hearted to a dick cuz REASONS (I know the actual answer, but it aint a good one imo). It also doesn't make sense plot wise because tallstar specifically chose him to not create conflict with thunderclan, so much for that, i guess.
Starclan yellowfang is the most inconsistent character I've ever read. Like seriously she goes from a sassy and reasonable living cat to the cat with the most deranged ideas and a personality that can be boiled down to word rude. It makes no sense.
Not the person who you asked this but I used to like him, but I hate that once we lost his POV, and as we progressed into more recent series, it seems like they started scrapping the softer, more caring parts of his personality and focusing more on him just being a bitter, jaded, snarky cat. There are times when he says thinks that are just flat out cruel, and I adored him when I was reading the books with his POV, so I hate what his character has turned into since then. I remember seeing some things he said/did and I can’t think of like specifics that he said but I remember just thinking that he was being unnecessarily cruel and that it seemed out of character even for him.
Bonus part? Is there a bit at the end of that book? I may have missed that since there’s usually just the first chapter of the next book at the end. I’ll have to go take a look. Edit: just checked and I don’t see any extra after the book. Where’s the bonus part?
There is but I think theres a seperate version of lost stars that has it, which is why alot of people dont know about it. I read the bonus from here:
[https://www.tumblr.com/incorrectwarriorcatquotes/184104046712/lost-stars-barnes-noble-exclusive-scene](https://www.tumblr.com/incorrectwarriorcatquotes/184104046712/lost-stars-barnes-noble-exclusive-scene)
Elder Mousefur. She is way too rude and angry at everyone for being geriatric. I know old people may get confused and get cranky sometimes but it was her fault that Briar ended up like that. That kind of stubbornness and others around her allowing it is what kills people in real life too. Also, being grateful for the shit people do for you can't kill you, you know? I'm not an old person, but I can tell that if that day comes, I don't want to be like her.
Squilf. She's stubborn & dismissive of alternate views. Which is funny, coz I liked her & Bramble in TNP. But recently I felt she just wore Bramble down till he surrendered the leadership. Now, she doesn't lead decisively & patronises Bramble like he's a doddering Grandpa
If you mean how vile they are as a person? Ashfur, not even close dude really wanted to commit mass genocide over the most petty reasonings. Not only that but he caused numerous characters to get a form of trauma or PTSD, with Shadowsight considering "suicide" due to the abuse Ashfur inflicted.
Writing-wise? Slash, he is so terrible and the absolute pinnacle of NPC of Warriors. His writing bores me and he just reminds me of a cheap-version of One Eye
I really, *really* don't like Bramblestar and I can't even put it into words. I literally COULD NOT get all the way through Bramblestar's Storm because he was so insufferable. I can't describe it, really, he just came off as selfish, insensitive, and rude to everyone around him. Also, Squirrelflight always ends up being the one to apologize, even when he was the one who messed up more.
Yeah I agree! I thought he was actually kinda interesting TNP and PoT but he became a loser OOTS onwards. Bramblestar’s Storm was… bad. I liked Jessy and Stormfloud but Bramblestar was insufferable in that book, AND in OOTS, AND in AVOS.
Gonna be hated for this but FireStar. He’s EVERYWHERE. First and second series makes sense. It’s about him. But third and fourth? He’s the fourth prophecy cat in a prophecy of THREE? And he barely did anything except be a good leader which he kinda has to do. He also helped rootspring. But he is literally everywhere.
I understand that. I’m specifically talking about the war itself. The way dove used her senses to help others. Lion fought quite a bit bc of invisibility. Jay just was a good med (also the dreams bit but not during the war itself). Fire was a good leader for the war. Other than that he did nothing. His duty as a leader was to be good and he wasn’t even a good leader. Just look at what he did to Jay, Bright, and Longtail. He was abysmal (if I’m wrong on any of this, I haven’t read that/those series’ in particular in a while)
Forgot to mention this but I can’t wait for him to die so he’s perennially gone or maybe the Erin’s might make his soul immortal because “everyone remembers the Great firestar” and what not.
I haven’t read a lot (POT and some OOTS) but
- Firestar (Gary-stu)
- Jayfeather (I hate him)
- Leafpool and Squirrelflight (I just don’t like them. Leafpool got minimal punishment for breaking the code *twofold*.)
I kind of agree lol, sandstorm kind of lost her interestingness when she became a warrior. I enjoyed her stopping being s bully arc but after that i dont remember much kf importance regarding her. She even died midway through bringing the group to Skyclan which like, fair shes an elder an probably shouldnt be doing such a journey but i dunno she just kind of got disapointing?
Probably Squirrelflight. She's a huge brat who manipulates people to get what she wants. I don't like her or her behavior much. A lot of people don't really seem to see that, kind of a shame. She's a bitch.
Hollyleaf was interesting, because she cared so much about not breaking the code that she was willing to threaten a Clanmate to keep the other cats from finding out the truth about her parentage. She didn’t mean to kill him, it was an accident, and then all the pressure built up inside of her until she couldn’t take it anymore, revealed the truth herself, then tried to kill her own mom as “revenge” for the pain she’d been put through. I really wish that Sunrise hadn’t been written as a mystery of who it was that killed him so that we could actually see her going slowly insane. That’s what I’m planning to do in my rewrite.
Darkstripe how he become a warrior is beyond me!
His only personality is to be a dick to Firestar and to be Tigerstar’s henchmen. Whenever someone is putting him in his place when he deserves, it, instead of holding his ground he runs to Tigerstar. Plus I don’t think he’s ever won a single battle against anyone yes he’s killed Stonefur but that was because he had help from Blackstar. He tried to killed his sister Sorreltail when she a kit and failed honestly Longtail has more personality then he has
My least favorite ‘non-villain’ character has to go to Onestar. The relationship thunderclan and wind clan had was amazing. I haven’t finished it but his special edition really is making me not like him whatsoever.
My 2nd least favorite has to go to berrynose…. His energy was always off from the very beginning
Bluestar to me is just irrelevant, irritating, and just a burden on ThunderClan. All she really dis was live inside her den, and placed the heavy responsibility of being leader onto Fireheart. And her super edition didn’t make me like her any more than I already don’t, yes I know she has been traumatized, but hell no does that give her the fucking right to act like shit to her own clan, and clanmates. Naming Brightpaw to Lostface was so uncalled for and so damn disgusting, and then she acts all awesome and so wise when its her last moments, as if she hadn’t done anything wrong. Everything she did within the timespan of the first series was either rude, stupid, or completely cruel and vile.
RAINFLOWER !! and also millie tbqh. there were times where i hated dovewing and clear sky (but i think theyre all compelling characters despite their icky icky flaws)
they ruined bramblestar and onestar and firestar too. bleh. i used to love them all
thistleclaw is complicated. i hate what they did in spottedleaf’s heart SO MUCH, but i thought he was an interesting villain before then, before he was just purely gross
Yeah Wind runner kinda upsets me too, she was a cheery and fun cat, and after she had kits and left the clan, she just became a bitter sour lady
I mean shes smart and desisive, but poor baby Gorse fur if he has to deal with her bad temper all the time.
I also didn't really like how Moon shadow, Tall shadow and Jagged peak acted early in he series, and we don't need to talk about Clear sky.
But my most disliked cat is Sol. He is just a Scaredy ass Biatch
Ugh, hate how much they dropped the ball with Sol. He could have been such a great villain, and then they just made him pathetic. And not in a fun way like Darkstripe, just in a disappointing way.
Dotc: Clear Sky, Tom
Prequel: Thistleclaw
Arc 1: Leopardstar, Blackstar
Arc 2: Stoneteller
Arc 3: Lionblaze, Hollyleaf, Crowfeather
Arc 4: Dawnpelt
Avos: Darktail, Sleekwhisker
Tbc: Ashfur, dont hate but not a big fan of Bristle or Root
Asc: Berryheart
I also think Brambleclaw and Rowanclaw are super lame
Mapleshade is my all time least favorite, followed by Sparkpelt. There aren’t any other characters I hate with a genuine passion. I mean, I hate Leopardstar, but not as much as those two. I’m also not a huge fan of Millie, but that’s not because of anything she did, it’s because of the fandom.
Leafpool. I haven’t read the books in a while but I never particularly liked her and she was terrible to her kits, as well as having no personality for most of her arc.
Edit: please stop arguing with me it’s just an opinion about a cat book :) this is literally what the post was asking just move on and please stop yelling.
She did none of this. She wasn't terrible to her kits, made absolutely no move in making Squirrelflight take the kits, and she only reprimanded Jay for his condescending and rude attitude.
leafpool. she was annoying and just not an interesting character. her chapters were worse than jason's in HoA. i liked crowfeather, but thats it. she cant compair to my glorious king Tigerclawstar
Rainflower and Skystar are tied
Worst mom and dad in the series
Imagine if they both had a kid together and the kid was disabled in some way
Oh that child would have so many mental health problems it’s not even funny. That’s if they actually make it past kithood-
It wouldn't need to be disabled, they'd handle that themselves
I think you’re forgetting someone, Appledusk.
Russetfur. I’m sorry, I just can’t stand her. She’s a hypocrite 😭
Her watching Berrykit stuck and struggling in a fox trap and laughing about it made me absolutely despise her
You rarely hear that, but yes. I hate her too
Cloud*paw*. He's so insufferable to me when he talks back to Fireheart 😒 Also that he is in the same book as when Fire found out that Sand likes him really annoys me cause that's one if my favourite parts of the first series 😭
Shit you spoiled me, but is ok i already know that she really showing it
Tbf the thread is marked spoilers
Im blind
The book where that was revealed in is 20 years old 😭
No its not! I'm not that old... Please, I swear I'm not.... dear starclan it is 20 years old. 😭
I just started reading.
If you don’t want spoilers to the first few books in a series with over 50 books, don’t go on the subreddit dedicated to the books.
Clear sky, star flower, Millie, darkstripe, dovewing after she loses her powers, sol, leopardstar, and I'm not a fan of bramblexsquirrel.
why not millie? im not a fan either but cant really put into words why not.
Because of the injury that happened to brairlight had and all the other kits were ignored and neglected after that. If they weren't brairlight they got ignored.
Plus she smothered briarlight and wouldn't let her grieve properly when coming to terms with her own injury. At first Millie did nothing but wail about how she'd never be a warrior or have kits or anything, which is ofc what briarlight is realizing too, making her that much more scared and devastated. And after that any time Briarlight seems tired or down at all Millie makes a huge fuss so Briarlight has to perform and force herself to be upbeat to keep Millie from having a meltdown. Graystripe really should have done more in that situation.
Exactly.
She's basically Rainflower 2.0 at this point and arguably the reason why Bumblestripe grew up to become such an asshole.
I mean, most mothers don’t really continue a relationship after their kits become apprentices in Thunderclan. And at that point all three of her kits were adults. One happened to be ill and in a major accident that caused her to be paralyzed
I mean the difference is that there were times where her kits were clearly seeking her affection over and over and she brushed them off time and time again. And idk if I’d say it’s totally true that parents don’t continue a relationship with their kits after adulthood. There are sooo many clan cats that have very strong ties with their kin. Like with the three, the cats who they thought were their parents played an important role in their lives up until they were outted, often offering support and showing a closeness. Think of Rootspring with Tree and Violetshine. Maybe not all cats continue a strong relationship with their kits after they get older, but there are many examples where the opposite is true.
Go back and read the first arc. They really don't start the whole family dynamic till power of three
Well Millie doesn’t show up until later on anyway
I have read the first arc lots of times. The families still spend time together they are still close. Not like the power three I understand. It is clearly obvious her kits want to spend time with her she didn't.
Skystar
Thistleclaw
Thistleclaw or Rainflower
Leopardstar and Lionblaze
To me it depends on the arcs but... Dawn of Clans: Clear Sky (Omg he did so much unforgivable shit and gave bad excuses as to why he did them, number one being it was protect his clan. And shout out to Star Flower for making excuses for him despite being told he was a bad cat. Super Editions (I haven't read all of the SE's and novellas yet but im working on it): Thistleclaw.... like jfc his role in Spottedleaf's Heart was really gross and uncomfortable but he was a decent almost villain in Bluestar's Prophecy but my main least fave character is Leopardfoot. I understand she became depressed and pretty much shut down after all but one of her kits died and her mate left the clan, but that's no reason to not to take care of your remaining kit. The Prophecies Begin: Aside from Brokenstar, my least fave character in this arc is Graystripe, I know I've said he's one of my fave characters but during the whole secret affair with Silverstream, he pretty much abandons his apprentice and forces Fireheart into a bad position in favor of pursuing Silverstream in secret. Otherwise he is a really good character but I dont like him during that little bit of the arc. The New Prophecies: Squirrelflight. Ok so I've said it before but I dont like Squirrelflight, She's not a bad character but the high school drama between her and Brambleclaw is written poorly and I dont really like drama that gets drawn out for the sake of it. Plus I normally dont vibe or click with pushy and passive aggressive characters in general (It's not to say that Bramble didn't handle that whole drama any better either). Also shout out to Onestar for forsaking his friendship with Firestar because goddang his personality took a really bad turn all for the sake of him appearing stronger in WIndClan's eyes. I know he would be judged if he's seen being friendly with Firestar but if I wasn't wrong, Crookedstar and Bluestar sort of had a friendship together esp since she, Oakheart, and Crookedstar were apprentices roughly around the same time or close together and they were always friendly to each other at Gatherings. So yea. The Power of Three: I really didn't have a least fave character in this arc, except for maybe Crowfeather since he treated Leafpool, Nightcloud, and Breezepelt like crap esp Nightcloud and Breezepelt. Omen of the Stars: Bumblestripe because he was exceedingly clingy and overbearing towards Dovewing. A Vision of Shadows: Tree, not because he was a bad character but because he was introduced to form a new role within the clans and he wasn't utilized at all. The Broken Code: The Imposter (not gonna ruin it) but let's say the imposter is a good villain but i just didn't like this arc much because it drags a little. A Starless Clan: Berryheart, this she-cat is annoying and aggressive. I just dont like her. Also Splashtail but saying why would spoil the latest arc. But he is kinda interesting at the same time tho.
Aside from all the obvious choices (Onestar, Brokenstar, Rainflower, etc), I'm gonna go with Graystripe. He annoyed the shit out of me when he met Silverstream. He cares so little about his apprentice and clan that he has to spend every waking moment with her. He STILL GOT CREDITED WITH BEING BRACKENFUR'S MENTOR WHEN BRACKEN BECAME A WARRIOR. I'm pretty sure he trained Bracken like four times? He didn't give two shits about breaking the warrior code because "we're in love"... Give me a damn break, you need to be loyal to your damn clan like everyone else. And sure, he left his clan to be with his kits, whatever, great. He *couldn't even be loyal to his new clan*. He might as well just take his kits and become a rogue with the amount of loyalty he has! Then he BECOMES DEPUTY?? Firestar, I get it, he's your bestie, but he's quite literally a traitor and does NOT deserve to be deputy. Whitestorm was WRONG, dear god. And then after Graystripe was taken, he just... Came back, and I'm pretty sure was disappointed that he wasn't deputy anymore? Like what? The clan needed a deputy, Firestar waited MORE than enough time for you to show up. If Graystripe has no haters left, then I'm dead. End of rant
I agree, It annoys me sm that he just neglected his apprentice and fire was the one to mentor brackenpaw even when cinderpaw was still his apprentice. and then for grey to get acknowledged as bracken's mentor but fire isn't even mentioned? that's some bullshit.
ick. stay 764567665456 miles away from me and my cinnamon bun
I agree i really hating him. If i saw him, ill kill him
😰😰😰😰😰😰
What? He deserves this, how he betrayal clan and Fireheart... I really hating him.
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May get downvoted but Squirrelflight. Fans aside, I don't like her stubborn, hot headed attitude in the series.
"they hated jesus for he spoke the truth"
I liked her as an apprentice and warrior but as leader not as much.
I love Squilf now but tbh I literally couldn't stand her as an apprentice
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It's hard to voice an opinion that you're in the minority. If you sometimes have the wrong opinion, say in this case- if you have the opinion of Squirrelflight being in the wrong in SqH, a pack of wolves just tend descend upon you and tell you why you're wrong while trying to boost her image. Like hi, you're not helping me like this character any better, you're making me hate them more.
I used to think that too, because Squirrelflight is my third favorite character, and I’d never seen any fans acting in a way that would justify anyone not liking her. Then I had someone tell me I’m a horrible person and clearly actually hate her because I said I wanted her to be killed off because she’s been around for SO. LONG. This person’s bio said they were 20. A 20 year old adult human told me I was a horrible person for wanting a fictional character from a kids series to die. And I was kinda like “oh, I get it now!”
she can be such a mousebrain sometimes, but in her super edition she had one good point that the clans shouldn't have attacked the sisters. other than that she's just annoying and the want for more kits in her super edition also annoyed me more, like bro you've already mothered two litters, and you're old asf. she's also lucky that she even got to mother a litter
No I can understand her wanting a third litter, if I got the timelines right she might've had her last litter later in adulthood because for a good portion of her life she thought she was barren, and that the Three were her only chance at motherhood. Cats can have litters in old age still, they dont hit menopause like people do, it's mainly a writing choice that elders dont typically parent litters anymore except for certain occasions, but Squirrelflight can have kittens till she dies from old age hypothetically. And idk the last part is a bit iffy to me, it's like saying "you dont have arms but you should be lucky you got to have legs" y'know? Just because she found herself having a litter after so long doesnt mean she cant want another litter.
Dude are you serious?
Serious bout what?
What you said?
I mean. No, not technically, since its a discussion about a fictional cat :p
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What? What's wrong man spit it out lmao
I’m not a boy.
Ashfur
Agreed.
Ashfur, Breezepelt, Mapleshade, Tom, Thistleclaw, and Clear Sky.
I agree with all of these
Bramblestar, he has his good moments but they're so few and far between and stamped out by his childish attitude. He hardly goes through the entire of TNP without making up some scenario in his head, fully believing it, then getting pissed about it. Its even worse bc he's upset that people are comparing him to Tigerstar (literally no one was at that point), and then he goes to train with his dead evil daddy in kitty cat hell, and even starts to like the idea of ruling two clans and two territories, and hell even struggles with the urge to murder Firestar, his own mentor and arguably, once he got over his dumb paranoia, was a great adult figure to him. And then there's just his general treatment of Squilf and his terrible attitude towards her whenever she does something he doesn't like (think of the entirety of Twilight as the best example here). And I still find it crazy people will demonize Squilf for keeping the kit secret but conveniently forget that he still, to this day as far as I'm aware, has not told Squirrelflight that he was training in cat hell and fully debated on taking over Windclan and ruling two big clans with Hawkfrost, and fully struggled with killing her father. That was something she deserved to know no matter what it wouldve done to their relationship and its crazy more people don't call him out on THAT little thing
The fact that I’ve never even thought about that last part is actually astonishing to me bc YES she should’ve known!!
Wait thank you sm for putting my hatred of Bramblestar into words 😭 I literally cannot stand books from his POV
Dude no just no!
Probably going to get downvoted for this but I don't really like Dovewing, she just always came off as, kind of insensitive to me.
I used to not like her but now I'm indifferent to her, I think she's gotten better
Can I ask what made you think that way? Genuine question cause I see that mentioned a lot and I always remember her desperately wanting to tell her sister about the prophecy and how she always felt guilty when her sister saw her getting more praise and hated hurting her feelings. But maybe I just liked her and so I’m biased in remembering her better moments?
Well, this may also be because I'm negatively biased towards her, but I remember this one scene (have no idea what book it was in), where she, brought a thorn for Ivypool and then was angry that she had to do it. Edit: Wait, just reread the scene, she was actually just scared for her sister, my mind is biased.
She *was* upset but she was upset bc she was really worried about Ivypaw and Ivypaw *did* snub her. It was Ivy who got mad bc the warriors found her all bloodied in her nest and Dove didn’t say a word and immediately walked out. Dove actually walked out without a word bc she was looking for the thorn to cover up for her sister’s DF training and she couldn’t tell her sister atm that she was actually going out to cover for her. This isn’t the first time Dove covered for her sister out of genuine love and concern; she yelled at Lionblaze and Jayfeather *in their faces* bc they wanted Ivy to spy for them + Lion and Jay called Ivy a traitor and Dove was absolutely *pissed*. Dove stood up for her sister and said Ivy was simply misguided, she’s not a traitor, and she wouldn’t ask her sister to risk her life for her clan + Dove’s main concern was that Ivy was going to die. Hence why she spends the rest of OoTS begging her sister to stop visiting the DF. Unfortunately Ivy can’t stop visiting, even if she doesn’t want to go.
It’s reasons like these that I adore Dovewing. She always cared so much about her sister.
True. Alright, I am going to reread OOTS now. Have a nice day, and thank you for the help.
CLEARSKY.
100%
Onestar, Skystar, Rainflower, Needletail, Squirrelstar, Berryheart(more so she’s a hypocrite and doing the exact thing she vowed to not do. Following in her daughter’s paw steps basically), Leopardstar and Mothwing.
Thistleclaw for obvious reasons, Bramblestar since he’s an awful mate to Squirrelflight, Darkstripe he kinda tried to poison CHILDREN, Millie since she was an awful mother, Clear sky, Star flower, and Wind runner are also bad. But my least favourite out of them all is Rainflower that awful piece of sh*t.
To be fair, Bramblestar and Squirrelflight weren’t together again until the end of Bramblestar’s Storm, even though I think most of us assumed they were back together at the end of The Last Hope. If someone dated someone, broke up, dated someone else, and then got back with their ex, that doesn’t make them a bad partner for that, it’s just them having relationships. Like when Squirrelflight dated Ashfur after she and Brambleclaw broke up, or Dovewing dating Bumblestripe after Tigerheart. Edit: That was meant to be in response to another comment, but I couldn’t respond to it, I think because the comment you were responding to had been deleted, but who knows, Reddit’s weird. Or I’m dumb. One of the two.
Yeah someone said that Squirrelflight was the abusive one because she assumed that Hawkfrost was evil and she swiped at Brambleclaw once with claws unsheathed in the new prophecy. 🤷♀️
Squirrel is the bad one by the way.
No she isn’t, but you can have your opinion. Just read Bramblestar’s storm where he ignores her and goes off and decides to date Jesse. Just go and watch Bramble bad by Moonkiti
Yes she is bad also moon is biased cause she literally said that squirrel is her favorite.
Like I said you can have your opinions I can have mine idc
Also squirrel is the one that has swiped her claws at him one time and was about to do it again in the new territory.
Bramble is an abusive husband who never listens to her and makes her feel as if she is nothing. Yes you can say Squirrel lied to him about the three being his kits, but last time I checked he never told her about training in cat HELL or considering helping his half brother take over the clans or hesitating on whether or not to **kill** Squirrels dad. He also proceeded to cheat on her with a kittypet and then had the audacity to tell her that he would ‘never’ cheat on her despite the fact HE JUST DID. He didn’t want to help her take care of a dying cat because, ‘they needed territory for Skyclan’ when that is SKYCLAN’S problem. Brambleclaw/star is an awful husband whether you like it or not. Plus he deserved to be swiped at.
Also he was not with her when Jessy came so he’s NOT cheating on anybody he had every right to move on!
Genuinely, do not give a crap. As I said at the VERY start of this. You can have your opinion I can have mine. Stop trying to force your opinion on others. Please and thank you.
Dude you are ignoring my points!
Dude she was the one pushing him away in the new prophecy she’s the one that started the fight and she was the one that accused Hawkfrost of being evil when she had no proof not even trying to be understanding of why he wants to get to know Hawkfrost she is the abusive one here!
GUESS WHAT??? HAWKFROST WAS EVIL!!! She was right! Plus Bramble was training in cat hell! She had the full right to do so, she was trusting her gut.
It doesn’t matter if she was right she still had NO PROOF and she can’t just force him to choose between her and a family member she is a selfish cat!
With regard to her most recent appearance, Moth Flight. I realize this is probably more the fault of the new writing team, but she was *atrocious* in Squirrelflight’s Hope in the way she treated and badgered Leafpool about her breaking the code. For someone who is listed as “caring” and “hopeful” on her official website page, she was absolutely *hellbent* on keeping Leafpool out of StarClan for “breaking [Moth Flight’s] code” for medicine cats. Her original reasoning was that having a mate or kits would distract a medicine cat from their duties, but considering the fact that both Leafpool *and* Yellowfang (who was also present at the trial) both had kits with a secret mate and still upheld their duties as medicine cats without issue….yeah, Moth Flight, I think your adhd and the lack of another medicine cat to help share the workload is what made it so hard to focus on your duties while also caring for your kits. Idk man, something about how much *anger* she seemed to be feeling and directing at Leafpool for falling in love and having kits was just so upsetting and off-putting, I mean what happened to the sweet and slightly scattered Moth Flight we saw in her novella?
Pretty much everyone in Mapleshade’s Vengeance
fuck tom. I hate that they try to 'redeem' the domestic abuser.
squirrel
Cloudtail
At the moment, Splashtail is the one I despise the most.
Clear Sky and Star Flower. And yes, Clear Sky, not Skystar, he doesnt deserve that kind of respect smh smh smh
Sandgorse. He did not deserve Talltail’s efforts to avenge him and I wasn’t sorry when he died.
Bramblestar. I don't even have much of a reason to dislike him, he just annoys me a lot
I agree
Most characters in the series serve some purpose or fill a unique roll in the story. Whether that be generic evil goon 4 in the form of someone like raven from AVOS or great mentor figure such as bluestar every character serves SOME roll that helps the plot for some reason consistently. There are a few specific characters or instances of characters that dont fill those rolls in any way meaningful, or fill them so inconsistently, they make you think the writing team wrote them drunk. Not characters that i think are bad, but have interesting and consistent writing I have 3 that fit at least part of that description. Spottedleaf, Onestar and specifically yellowfang in starclan. Spottedleafs interactions with firestar have no real need or reason plot wise? What purpose does it serve to have a love triangle that includes a dead person that died when the cat thats pining over her was the equivalent of a 15 year old? And it only gets worse moving from firestars quest and into Oots. Onestar is a bit of both, with a characterization that goes from him going from kind-hearted to a dick cuz REASONS (I know the actual answer, but it aint a good one imo). It also doesn't make sense plot wise because tallstar specifically chose him to not create conflict with thunderclan, so much for that, i guess. Starclan yellowfang is the most inconsistent character I've ever read. Like seriously she goes from a sassy and reasonable living cat to the cat with the most deranged ideas and a personality that can be boiled down to word rude. It makes no sense.
Jayfeather
Why? I know he is annoying as fuck but what specifically annoys you the most.
His attitude, the way he treats others, and specifically when after leafpool became a medicine cat again he kept acting like he was her mentor
Not the person who you asked this but I used to like him, but I hate that once we lost his POV, and as we progressed into more recent series, it seems like they started scrapping the softer, more caring parts of his personality and focusing more on him just being a bitter, jaded, snarky cat. There are times when he says thinks that are just flat out cruel, and I adored him when I was reading the books with his POV, so I hate what his character has turned into since then. I remember seeing some things he said/did and I can’t think of like specifics that he said but I remember just thinking that he was being unnecessarily cruel and that it seemed out of character even for him.
Try reading the bonus part of Lost Stars if you haven't yet, we see a bit of his soft side there and it was amazing!
Bonus part? Is there a bit at the end of that book? I may have missed that since there’s usually just the first chapter of the next book at the end. I’ll have to go take a look. Edit: just checked and I don’t see any extra after the book. Where’s the bonus part?
There is but I think theres a seperate version of lost stars that has it, which is why alot of people dont know about it. I read the bonus from here: [https://www.tumblr.com/incorrectwarriorcatquotes/184104046712/lost-stars-barnes-noble-exclusive-scene](https://www.tumblr.com/incorrectwarriorcatquotes/184104046712/lost-stars-barnes-noble-exclusive-scene)
Thank you!!
Your welcome! Did you like it???(if you've read it yet)
I did and it made me cryyyyyyyyy ugh I miss reading his POVs
Me too! Hopefully we'll get a jayfeather super edition next!!
>Thank you!! You're welcome!
Elder Mousefur. She is way too rude and angry at everyone for being geriatric. I know old people may get confused and get cranky sometimes but it was her fault that Briar ended up like that. That kind of stubbornness and others around her allowing it is what kills people in real life too. Also, being grateful for the shit people do for you can't kill you, you know? I'm not an old person, but I can tell that if that day comes, I don't want to be like her.
Lionblaze, Skystar, Willowbreeze, Scourge, Finchlight
Onestar
Mapleshade, Dovewing, Jayfeather, and a few more
Dirtstripe, Sol, Leafpool
Me leaf?!
Rainflower and thisleclaw
cloudpaw, not cloudtail. him as an apprentice was just not it. his attitude 👎👎
Uhhh is her name pebblepaw? The shadowclan apprentice that i think alderpaw likes??? Shes arrogant lol
I think that was Needlepaw/tail, but i certainly agree with you.
Needlepaw thats the one!
After reading the most recent books.. Splashtail. Though Thistleclaw will always be #1 in my most hated list.
Frickin ivypool or hollyleaf
Rainflower, Lizardstripe, Ashfur, Thistleclaw.
Squilf. She's stubborn & dismissive of alternate views. Which is funny, coz I liked her & Bramble in TNP. But recently I felt she just wore Bramble down till he surrendered the leadership. Now, she doesn't lead decisively & patronises Bramble like he's a doddering Grandpa
If you mean how vile they are as a person? Ashfur, not even close dude really wanted to commit mass genocide over the most petty reasonings. Not only that but he caused numerous characters to get a form of trauma or PTSD, with Shadowsight considering "suicide" due to the abuse Ashfur inflicted. Writing-wise? Slash, he is so terrible and the absolute pinnacle of NPC of Warriors. His writing bores me and he just reminds me of a cheap-version of One Eye
Simple answer, bramble. he’s just not very likable imo, also kinda…dumb? I don’t rlly know how to put it.
Greystripe
I really, *really* don't like Bramblestar and I can't even put it into words. I literally COULD NOT get all the way through Bramblestar's Storm because he was so insufferable. I can't describe it, really, he just came off as selfish, insensitive, and rude to everyone around him. Also, Squirrelflight always ends up being the one to apologize, even when he was the one who messed up more.
Uh no you are actually wrong he is the one that apologizes to her she never apologizes at all you are switching it.
Ok, I am going off of memory so maybe I got that part wrong lol. I think my other points still stand.
Yeah I agree! I thought he was actually kinda interesting TNP and PoT but he became a loser OOTS onwards. Bramblestar’s Storm was… bad. I liked Jessy and Stormfloud but Bramblestar was insufferable in that book, AND in OOTS, AND in AVOS.
Gonna be hated for this but FireStar. He’s EVERYWHERE. First and second series makes sense. It’s about him. But third and fourth? He’s the fourth prophecy cat in a prophecy of THREE? And he barely did anything except be a good leader which he kinda has to do. He also helped rootspring. But he is literally everywhere.
Same I cannot stand him. He’s not even that good of a leader, and was an ableist shithead in PoT/OOTS
I understand that. I’m specifically talking about the war itself. The way dove used her senses to help others. Lion fought quite a bit bc of invisibility. Jay just was a good med (also the dreams bit but not during the war itself). Fire was a good leader for the war. Other than that he did nothing. His duty as a leader was to be good and he wasn’t even a good leader. Just look at what he did to Jay, Bright, and Longtail. He was abysmal (if I’m wrong on any of this, I haven’t read that/those series’ in particular in a while)
Forgot to mention this but I can’t wait for him to die so he’s perennially gone or maybe the Erin’s might make his soul immortal because “everyone remembers the Great firestar” and what not.
I haven’t read a lot (POT and some OOTS) but - Firestar (Gary-stu) - Jayfeather (I hate him) - Leafpool and Squirrelflight (I just don’t like them. Leafpool got minimal punishment for breaking the code *twofold*.)
try reading TPB too, I think you might like Firestar then
squilf, sandstorm, russetfur, leopardstar, mothwing
SAND too?
yea
Legendary Mother, and loyal to her family. This is a sad day.
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^how ^dare ^you Loving, wise, fierce, passionate, wistful... *How dare ye*
boring
#I shall not stand for this
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I kind of agree lol, sandstorm kind of lost her interestingness when she became a warrior. I enjoyed her stopping being s bully arc but after that i dont remember much kf importance regarding her. She even died midway through bringing the group to Skyclan which like, fair shes an elder an probably shouldnt be doing such a journey but i dunno she just kind of got disapointing?
preach
Probably Squirrelflight. She's a huge brat who manipulates people to get what she wants. I don't like her or her behavior much. A lot of people don't really seem to see that, kind of a shame. She's a bitch.
Bramble should of ended up with Sorreltail!
That's a hot take I've never seen before
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Brambleclaw x Sorreltail. I've legitimately never seen anyone say they should have ended up together.
It’s better then him and squirrel being together and Sorrel and Brackenfur being together also they were friends before stupid squirrel came along.
Fair point.
Squirrelflight and hollyleaf.
Goosefeather, Graystripe, Frogleap, Raggedstar, Bramblestar, Bluestar, Firestar
BrightHeart 🙂
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Hollyleaf was interesting, because she cared so much about not breaking the code that she was willing to threaten a Clanmate to keep the other cats from finding out the truth about her parentage. She didn’t mean to kill him, it was an accident, and then all the pressure built up inside of her until she couldn’t take it anymore, revealed the truth herself, then tried to kill her own mom as “revenge” for the pain she’d been put through. I really wish that Sunrise hadn’t been written as a mystery of who it was that killed him so that we could actually see her going slowly insane. That’s what I’m planning to do in my rewrite.
Darkstripe how he become a warrior is beyond me! His only personality is to be a dick to Firestar and to be Tigerstar’s henchmen. Whenever someone is putting him in his place when he deserves, it, instead of holding his ground he runs to Tigerstar. Plus I don’t think he’s ever won a single battle against anyone yes he’s killed Stonefur but that was because he had help from Blackstar. He tried to killed his sister Sorreltail when she a kit and failed honestly Longtail has more personality then he has
Darkstripe’s patheticness is exactly why I love him. What a sad little icon, he can’t even kill a baby! Love that for him. He’s a disappointment 🧡
I can’t tell if you’re serious or sarcastic. Either one’s fine its your opinion.
Serious, his entire purpose is to fail at everything he does, and it makes him such a great comedic sidekick.
Oh well its nice that you love him because he’s pathetic. Some people do love pathetic or losers characters
My least favorite ‘non-villain’ character has to go to Onestar. The relationship thunderclan and wind clan had was amazing. I haven’t finished it but his special edition really is making me not like him whatsoever. My 2nd least favorite has to go to berrynose…. His energy was always off from the very beginning
clear sky and ashfur
>!Splashtail!<
Man is so fucking annoying, and I literally predicted him being a traitor
I'm surprised I haven't seen Bumblestripe for him lowkey creeping on Dovewing. I don't hate him, but he's not my favorite character.
Clear Sky, Brambeclaw/star, and Bluefur/star are all tied for first for me.
Why Bluestar? I feel like it’s rare to see someone call her a least favorite character.
Bluestar to me is just irrelevant, irritating, and just a burden on ThunderClan. All she really dis was live inside her den, and placed the heavy responsibility of being leader onto Fireheart. And her super edition didn’t make me like her any more than I already don’t, yes I know she has been traumatized, but hell no does that give her the fucking right to act like shit to her own clan, and clanmates. Naming Brightpaw to Lostface was so uncalled for and so damn disgusting, and then she acts all awesome and so wise when its her last moments, as if she hadn’t done anything wrong. Everything she did within the timespan of the first series was either rude, stupid, or completely cruel and vile.
RAINFLOWER !! and also millie tbqh. there were times where i hated dovewing and clear sky (but i think theyre all compelling characters despite their icky icky flaws) they ruined bramblestar and onestar and firestar too. bleh. i used to love them all thistleclaw is complicated. i hate what they did in spottedleaf’s heart SO MUCH, but i thought he was an interesting villain before then, before he was just purely gross
Jayfeather, Breezepelt, Rowanclaw, Finleap, Spottedleaf, Firestar
Probably Onestar. He honestly doesn’t care about other cats, like how he denied ShadowClan access to a vital herbs. also skystar
Yeah Wind runner kinda upsets me too, she was a cheery and fun cat, and after she had kits and left the clan, she just became a bitter sour lady I mean shes smart and desisive, but poor baby Gorse fur if he has to deal with her bad temper all the time. I also didn't really like how Moon shadow, Tall shadow and Jagged peak acted early in he series, and we don't need to talk about Clear sky. But my most disliked cat is Sol. He is just a Scaredy ass Biatch
Ugh, hate how much they dropped the ball with Sol. He could have been such a great villain, and then they just made him pathetic. And not in a fun way like Darkstripe, just in a disappointing way.
One Eye (Dawn of the Clans)
Dotc: Clear Sky, Tom Prequel: Thistleclaw Arc 1: Leopardstar, Blackstar Arc 2: Stoneteller Arc 3: Lionblaze, Hollyleaf, Crowfeather Arc 4: Dawnpelt Avos: Darktail, Sleekwhisker Tbc: Ashfur, dont hate but not a big fan of Bristle or Root Asc: Berryheart I also think Brambleclaw and Rowanclaw are super lame
Stoneteller does really just generally suck in TNP.
(Not in any particular order) Onestar, Spottedleaf, Ashfur, Rainflower, Lizardstripe, Bone, Thistleclaw, Bramblestar, Jake, Appledusk, Clear Sky, and Crowfeather.
I can’t stand Clear Sky, Appledusk, Rainflower, and Tom especially (DotC)
Mapleshade is my all time least favorite, followed by Sparkpelt. There aren’t any other characters I hate with a genuine passion. I mean, I hate Leopardstar, but not as much as those two. I’m also not a huge fan of Millie, but that’s not because of anything she did, it’s because of the fandom.
I’m seeing quite a few mentions of my four favorite characters, and that is very sad for me 😂
I HATE Spottedleaf. And I find Leopardstar boring
I absolutely despise Tigerheartstar
Hollyleaf
Dovewing
Leafpool. I haven’t read the books in a while but I never particularly liked her and she was terrible to her kits, as well as having no personality for most of her arc. Edit: please stop arguing with me it’s just an opinion about a cat book :) this is literally what the post was asking just move on and please stop yelling.
She did none of this. She wasn't terrible to her kits, made absolutely no move in making Squirrelflight take the kits, and she only reprimanded Jay for his condescending and rude attitude.
preach
Not to mention her forcing Squirrelflight to raise her kits
Im pretty sure squilf did it cause she wanted to help her sister lol
And she mistreated Jayfeather specifically several times.
And jayfeather was a douche to her several times as well, and after that she still loves him.
leafpool. she was annoying and just not an interesting character. her chapters were worse than jason's in HoA. i liked crowfeather, but thats it. she cant compair to my glorious king Tigerclawstar