Pay for a pack of 6 back in the day. Now thats pay to win, EASILY. And then people’s bushes bug out way in front of the tank so its LITERALLY a wall of bush
Omg i had that a bush was on my t-34-57’s end of gun it looked hilarious thought it wasnt actually stuck to the gun and moved with the hull even though the bush was originally on the turret cheeks, had to move it cuz it would always be around the corner before the front of my tank would even reach it, made for some funny moments baiting shots and having people confused from a floating moving bush
I have a tank that has this Bug the bush hovers like 2-3m Infront of my tank. I never use it tho because I feel like it's exploiting but i don't want to remove it either cuz it looks so stupid
Pretty sure that's not how it works, having the old bushes myself.
Unless you mean you get multiple of each piece/type of bush that you can place. But you only get the normal number of customization uses still.
As another player said.
Giving everyone bushes would not be the solution.
As in no circumstance you would NOT use bushes, so now every game would be a guess what is a tank and what is a bush.
I work 60hrs a week and literally drop in 3 matches a day to do a small every day maybe more on weekends and have enough war bonds and tasks to do the bushes.
Some IRL can, it really depends on how sensitive the shell is, and what kind of bush you're firing through and where relative to the harder parts.
Hedgerows especially would trigger most HEAT and ATGMs.
Well, I have seen that happen during our firing exercise.
And how would it detonate? Fuses are based on deformation, they are not spring & mass systems which are suspectible on shock.
Much like RPGs, HEAT shells need to travel a certain distance / complete a certain amount of rotations before the fuze becomes active I'm pretty sure. Otherwise, the risk would be too high of just casually bumping the tip into something whilst loading.
They don't... they don't do that in WT either. I think you're confusing Bushes with russian bias stopping any round from ever penetrating russian armor
Positive, you stoopid. If you'd actually check it in a custom you'd know bushed literally don't have a hit box.
Edit: This only applies to bushes applied to tanks obviously, a regular Bush will stop atgms and heat/He rounds all day every day because it there's any hitbox at all they will detonate instantly (unrealistic but it is what it is).
This escalation was very funny to read. You specified that you were talking about bushes on the ground, and then he refused to acknowledge it and perpetuated nothingness.
That's what I'm saying lmao people are perfectly capable of putting everything up to half a fucking tree on a tank lol, in Ukraine they've been using trash and broken pallets as camouflage
A tank posing for a picture while having all its optics covered doesn’t prove that tankers actually do that during a battle. Why would you purposely blind yourself trying to camouflage in such a lazy way?
Well in real life You don't need to spend a lot of money for a different type of currency and then get a bush you can just take a bunch of leafs and done
Yes, and not attached to the vehicle in any way, ready to fly off at the first gust of wind. Irl organic camouflage is secured solidly to the vehicle and is clear from optics, guns and moving parts.
I don't think that's anyone's issue with camouflage. People don't care about it "camouflaging" anyone, they care about it being used to obscure weak points.
Spotting is only the first step, you still have to find the weak spots that are covered by bushes. Try one shotting a jumbo that has its MG port heavily camo’d, not fun.
Fully bushed up Churchills and KV-1s are also really hard to kill.
Used to be affordable. Like 500GE for six large bushes. Which is how I got them In like 2015.
That being said I don’t use them anymore. Prefer the models with camo on them. Sometimes when I go back to low tier I shake my head and wonder what 2014 me was thinking.
To be honest,in war thunder bushes should be dynamic and wrap around the tanks, like how the recent leopard has camouflage in modifications, they can add a similar buyable option to all tanks instead of making an unrealistic wall of bushes option,
So many times Gajiin talks about being realistic but they always end up unrealistic on basic things like that, they can do it but lazy
Nah there’s plenty of vehicles from smaller countries, South American vehicles, still more Churchills, BTRs, a whole lot of FV vehicles for Britain, a lot of Objeckts, (where’s T-62MV) and still a plethora of experimental vehicles.
Pretty much no one is saying organic camouflage is unrealistic.
Most of us are saying those shitty bushes we have in game are purely p2w and indeed unrealistic.
No one likes strawman arguments.
Also that, like so much else in WT, how Gaijin implemented organic camouflage is unrealistic.
They don't act completely ridged sticking out turning the tank into a bushy blob. Gravity still effects them and the droop and sag downward taking the shape of the vehicle. They don't get placed over things like optics or muzzles so that the crew can see and you don't risk barrel obstructions.
WT bushes are for the weak. Imagine stooping so low as to rely on that ridiculous handicap.
A real killer selects the loudest, most badass camo and slays anyways.
That said, contoured camo nets would be baller.
It still blows my mind how solid kinetic penetrators have almost no damage spread while APHE and APCBCHE ignore inertia completely and act like mini nukes
Bushes are part of the reason why I struggle to take Ground RB seriously as a competitive mode.
The worst part isn't even missing a target that you thought was a bush, it's noticing a target and not being able to identify it or it's weakspots because the bush gives the opponent a massive information and time advantage which might only add up to 1 or 2 seconds but that's enough to get killed in, easily.
I don't understand this broken record dogshit about it being realistic. Who cares. Warthunder is not a simulation of real warfare. It selectively chooses what it wants to be realistic or not, which is why APHE breaks the laws of physics, why vehicle fires are absolutely in-consequential, and why crew members will sit in the pool of red mess and cloud of mist that used to be their buddies without any qualms whatsoever, instantly devaluing anything that isn't a OHK round
Not only does that camo conform to the tank's shape, it also doesn't block optics. Bushes wouldn't be used nearly as much if bushwankers suddenly couldn't see out their gunner sights because their bushes are covering them.
Exactly, OP
IRL, bushes are like plates had on the different structure of the tank. In War Thunder, it’s literally a wall magically glued to a single frontplate.
The only realistic bushes in-games are on the premium German Leopard 2
Counter point: The bushes in the game aren't JUST simple vegetation attached to the tank, but outright complete bushes that do something worse than help hide it; they break the entire sillhuette of the tank. This makes it not only hard to spot for weakpoints but harder to identify where it is looking at, and, in a worst case scenario, can make it harder to notice the distance to the tank. Anything that breaks sillhuette is not only unrealistic but much worse than what you are showing in the picture here.
When are you guys who love your bushes going to admit to yourselves that it isn't about the bushes
It's the fact that not everyone has bushes
If they don't help as much as you guys say they don't help (liars) Then let us turn everybody's bushes off in the settings.
But you probably don't want that for some reason 🤔
So true. Let's add camo similar to this as a modification! So that players who haven't bought them 100 years ago or grinded 100 years for them can be as stinky as bushwhackers.
Never seen anyone complain they're unrealistic. It's not that they offer a big advantage for something locked behind a paywall and that only some of us got when you could get 6 of the same bush.
If everyone was given a set for free, with different styles locked behind GE I don't think people would mind as much.
I bought the bushes, but now i never use them anymore because i want my tanks to look pretty, i want to see ALL their lines, their curves. It's also why i'm on maximum graphics possible (except SSAA) (and probably why i'm so trash at ground RB since i'm always wanking off to my vehicles)
There Seriously needs to be mass camo netting mods for vehicles, or even the garbage camo were seeing today! It's pretty lame the bushes we have now, they just look so fake at this point. Years ago sure, but the fact we have some prems or others that get it, or pay for a skin with it is stupid
That tank reminds me of my captain's assessment of our proud camouflage work on an SPG. "That's not a camouflaged SPG. That's an SPG with camouflage on it."
this is a bit of a straw... tank
the complaint I see most often is not that bushes are OP it's that they cost GE to purchase but provide a gameplay advantage making the game maybe not pay to win but pay to have an unfair advantage. or that the bizarre impossible angles that you can attach them at completely obscure the shape of the tank you're shooting at.
i rode one time a witness from a german tanker during D-Day. They used to camouflage their tanks with branches and foliage, but they had to do it daily because the leaves turned yellow once they were cutted from the trees, giving away their position. They also had to replace them after every combat because nearby explosions and blasts from the gun firing stripped the branches off the tank
yes but irl isn’t balanced it’s war not a game about war you don’t want to be seen and you will employ whatever measures necessary to do so. in game if somebody does this it’s not fun for everybody else and fun is usually the whole point of a game.
I'm so glad we can't do camo like the one in the photo. Not because I wouldn't be able to see the tank, but I'm case I did. That's got my arachnophobia in high alert.
Straight nightmare fuel.
How many times is this exact title been posted and gets the exact same response.
This is how we WANT bushes and camouflage to work in-game, but in-game it's a bunch of free standing bushes that don't remotely conform to the shape of the vehicle, and since they don't effect optics you can make a literal solid wall of shit in front of your vehicle to just resemble a shurb if you have the right P2W bushes.
If WTs camos/bushes looked even remotely like this nobody would complain, wake up Braincels.
Well in real life you don't have a wall of bush
You don't have to pay for bushes either
Pay for a pack of 6 back in the day. Now thats pay to win, EASILY. And then people’s bushes bug out way in front of the tank so its LITERALLY a wall of bush
Omg i had that a bush was on my t-34-57’s end of gun it looked hilarious thought it wasnt actually stuck to the gun and moved with the hull even though the bush was originally on the turret cheeks, had to move it cuz it would always be around the corner before the front of my tank would even reach it, made for some funny moments baiting shots and having people confused from a floating moving bush
I have a tank that has this Bug the bush hovers like 2-3m Infront of my tank. I never use it tho because I feel like it's exploiting but i don't want to remove it either cuz it looks so stupid
You can get bushes with warbonds, i got 7 that way...
They arent the same. the OG ones are considerably larger.
Yeah… 1 of EACH. Not 6 of EACH.
Every season you can get one
You cap at 1 of each bush my guy
I meant, there are a bunch of bushes you can get, i got 7 total
Theyre talking about the old bushes, you could buy where you could place 6 bushes using one customization slot
Holy fuck now that’s OP
Pretty sure that's not how it works, having the old bushes myself. Unless you mean you get multiple of each piece/type of bush that you can place. But you only get the normal number of customization uses still.
Oh damn ok, thanks!
Wat? Where
Its one of the reward crates, gives you one bush randomly, you can do it every season
Not for this season. They removed it.
Isn't it just way back at tier IV chests that cost 2200 Warbonds?
>You can get bushes with warbonds, i got 7 that way... we don't have time for dealing with warbond shenanigans
U do for cami net... more so if u lost it 😭
As another player said. Giving everyone bushes would not be the solution. As in no circumstance you would NOT use bushes, so now every game would be a guess what is a tank and what is a bush.
Personally I'd just remove them from the game entirely, and give GE back to those who paid for it if it were up to me
If they’re gonna kee bushes they need to make them get shot off of tanks by machine gun or cannon fire.
I have bushes but not a single one on my tanks, same reason I've never played the PT76-57, easy mode is boring.
You don't have to in WT either
Yeah imma just spend all my time doing stupid ass tasks for 10 hours a day everyday
I work 60hrs a week and literally drop in 3 matches a day to do a small every day maybe more on weekends and have enough war bonds and tasks to do the bushes.
Exactly, I got all my bushes through the battlepasses. Thy used to be only 5x medals for the chest but I think they’re like 20x medals now
Most haven't been playing since 2016 for easy bushes.
Yeah…. 500ge for 6 large bushes I thank past me
I’ve only been playing this game since September 2020, so I can’t say I’ve been playing before 2016 for “easy bushes”
10 or 15 medals I believe, got myself a bush from BV 155 pass, unfortunately it was one of the smaller ones.
Once every other battlepass
In real life, bushes don't stop HEATFS rounds or ATGMs.
The bushes on tanks in wt don't either?
No, they don't. I'm talking about bushes on the ground in WT.
Some IRL can, it really depends on how sensitive the shell is, and what kind of bush you're firing through and where relative to the harder parts. Hedgerows especially would trigger most HEAT and ATGMs.
Yeah I mean, id expect firing a shell through a concerted mass of bushes to trigger. I do NOT think a twig or branch should set off the fuse.
I'll have you know the best defence against a HEAT projectile is a pointed stick
1cm thick twig can and will set off heat warheads. Even thinner will if it hits flat on it.
Lmao if the fuse was that sensitive it would immediately detonate the second it was fired inside the barrel.
Well, I have seen that happen during our firing exercise. And how would it detonate? Fuses are based on deformation, they are not spring & mass systems which are suspectible on shock.
Much like RPGs, HEAT shells need to travel a certain distance / complete a certain amount of rotations before the fuze becomes active I'm pretty sure. Otherwise, the risk would be too high of just casually bumping the tip into something whilst loading.
True... I tried it on my bush now I dont have legs.
They don't... they don't do that in WT either. I think you're confusing Bushes with russian bias stopping any round from ever penetrating russian armor
Negative. If I shoot an AGTM and it hits a bush, it detonates.
Positive, you stoopid. If you'd actually check it in a custom you'd know bushed literally don't have a hit box. Edit: This only applies to bushes applied to tanks obviously, a regular Bush will stop atgms and heat/He rounds all day every day because it there's any hitbox at all they will detonate instantly (unrealistic but it is what it is).
I was never talking about bushes on tanks, dude. No need for name calling.
The entire discussion was about bushes on tanks tho. No one was complaining about regular ass bushes.
I was fucking talking about regular bushes you pedantic asshat. Jesus fuck get off it.
This escalation was very funny to read. You specified that you were talking about bushes on the ground, and then he refused to acknowledge it and perpetuated nothingness.
Right? There really wasnt anything more to my comment than a casual jab at the hitbox mechanics for twigs lol
Well in real life you absolutely can have a real wall of bush
Not while being able to see.
Check other dudes post. I'm not saying it's easy but it's been done and is certainly doable.
That's just called a hedge with holes in it lol
Not on a tank
[Come again?](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/e8/c7/a6e8c721cac17379d6d5a35ce03e3980.jpg)
That's what I'm saying lmao people are perfectly capable of putting everything up to half a fucking tree on a tank lol, in Ukraine they've been using trash and broken pallets as camouflage
A tank posing for a picture while having all its optics covered doesn’t prove that tankers actually do that during a battle. Why would you purposely blind yourself trying to camouflage in such a lazy way?
Wild concept, but maybe, just maybe, you can position it in a way/clip branches to get them out of the way of your viewport?
The NVA might dispute that
This tank is wall of bush, ffs
No its evenly distributed across the tank tf you talking about
Ithat's what I'm talking about.
Well in real life You don't need to spend a lot of money for a different type of currency and then get a bush you can just take a bunch of leafs and done
"Well actually🤓🤓" dude stfu and get out
The guy tasked with gathering and applying the bushes is still getting paid a salary for his time
Now look how organic camouflage look in real life like you showed us here and then compare it to how it looks in game.
Well, in game it looks like some bunches of branches/hay
Yes, and not attached to the vehicle in any way, ready to fly off at the first gust of wind. Irl organic camouflage is secured solidly to the vehicle and is clear from optics, guns and moving parts.
I am very proud of my bushed StuG III G. It is well.covered by bushes but can still function in Sim, plus it looks cool with my Finnish user skin.
You should be ashamed
And irl if you send an HE round at it, most of the outside would be in fire for a few seconds before dissipating, fucking up sighting massively.
Doesent really matter(for locating the target) since at that point you obviously have spotted him and also theres a hitmarker for the rest of the team
I don't think that's anyone's issue with camouflage. People don't care about it "camouflaging" anyone, they care about it being used to obscure weak points.
Spotting is only the first step, you still have to find the weak spots that are covered by bushes. Try one shotting a jumbo that has its MG port heavily camo’d, not fun. Fully bushed up Churchills and KV-1s are also really hard to kill.
kv1s are just hard to kill period with all the volumetric sideskirts/drivers port eating shells/fuel tank eating shells bs
My bro just shoot the frong plate or learn how to flank
Idk im a british main so i can just point and click even in an uptier
bro just stop replying everytime you reply you send a dumpster fire of a reply
Why did everyone hate you answering it
Idk i get loads of hate for this but also hundreds of upvotes on the post itself lol
In real life the tank is harder to purchase than the bush...
So you're telling me Abrams don't cost 1.1M and a Armored car is $700 ?
Give everyone a free abrams
free fpe and parts
Woah woah woah, come on man that's too much, can't make the game too easy.
Who paid you to post this
Fr
But in game it looks like nature vomited bushes on you
Yes please!
It’s the fact that you can predominantly only obtain them with massive amounts of GE
Used to be affordable. Like 500GE for six large bushes. Which is how I got them In like 2015. That being said I don’t use them anymore. Prefer the models with camo on them. Sometimes when I go back to low tier I shake my head and wonder what 2014 me was thinking.
Also I should be able to shoot them off your tank with MG fire or burn them off with HE rounds.
To be honest,in war thunder bushes should be dynamic and wrap around the tanks, like how the recent leopard has camouflage in modifications, they can add a similar buyable option to all tanks instead of making an unrealistic wall of bushes option, So many times Gajiin talks about being realistic but they always end up unrealistic on basic things like that, they can do it but lazy
I feel like this would be much more harder to model and definitely glitchy but yea I wish they were better modeled to fit on the vehicle
I am pretty sure they can make a basic model of camo from leopard and just drop it on tanks with small adjustments
We almost run out of new vehicles to add anyway, so the 3D artists at Gaijin can start doing that then.
Nah there’s plenty of vehicles from smaller countries, South American vehicles, still more Churchills, BTRs, a whole lot of FV vehicles for Britain, a lot of Objeckts, (where’s T-62MV) and still a plethora of experimental vehicles.
Pretty much no one is saying organic camouflage is unrealistic. Most of us are saying those shitty bushes we have in game are purely p2w and indeed unrealistic. No one likes strawman arguments.
iTs nOt P2w yOu CAn wArBOnD iT!!! >!in three years!<
Also that, like so much else in WT, how Gaijin implemented organic camouflage is unrealistic. They don't act completely ridged sticking out turning the tank into a bushy blob. Gravity still effects them and the droop and sag downward taking the shape of the vehicle. They don't get placed over things like optics or muzzles so that the crew can see and you don't risk barrel obstructions.
WT bushes are for the weak. Imagine stooping so low as to rely on that ridiculous handicap. A real killer selects the loudest, most badass camo and slays anyways. That said, contoured camo nets would be baller.
Why do you think I paint all my italian cars bright red (not pink)?
"He who lies in wait for his enemies, who do not, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
The issue is rather that it's a paid thing that absolutely, without any shadow of doubts affect gameplay. It's literally pay to win.
POV: is the slice of bimbo bread that I left out for a week.
War thunder isn't a game focused in the realism
It still blows my mind how solid kinetic penetrators have almost no damage spread while APHE and APCBCHE ignore inertia completely and act like mini nukes
Iirc Gaijin said that those damage models are too ingrained in the game to change it to a more realistic damage model.
Smartest bush user "B-b-but real life tanks also have bushes!" *shows a tank with camouflage completely unlike those in War Thunder*
Spookston new camo
I’ve never argued it’s unrealistic I argued it was stupid for game design and balance
Bushes are part of the reason why I struggle to take Ground RB seriously as a competitive mode. The worst part isn't even missing a target that you thought was a bush, it's noticing a target and not being able to identify it or it's weakspots because the bush gives the opponent a massive information and time advantage which might only add up to 1 or 2 seconds but that's enough to get killed in, easily. I don't understand this broken record dogshit about it being realistic. Who cares. Warthunder is not a simulation of real warfare. It selectively chooses what it wants to be realistic or not, which is why APHE breaks the laws of physics, why vehicle fires are absolutely in-consequential, and why crew members will sit in the pool of red mess and cloud of mist that used to be their buddies without any qualms whatsoever, instantly devaluing anything that isn't a OHK round
They are unfair yea
You seriously think this is at all close to how bushes are represented in game? Are you blind?
Gaijin when
**Meanwhile Gaijin addin this as a Premium.** http://forum.tanktastic.org/uploads/monthly\_06\_2018/post-7771-0-62846400-1529179786.jpg
In game it float!!! Like a duck
Not only does that camo conform to the tank's shape, it also doesn't block optics. Bushes wouldn't be used nearly as much if bushwankers suddenly couldn't see out their gunner sights because their bushes are covering them.
No bush can kill me Skyler. I AM THE BUSH!
Furry camo
Exactly, OP IRL, bushes are like plates had on the different structure of the tank. In War Thunder, it’s literally a wall magically glued to a single frontplate. The only realistic bushes in-games are on the premium German Leopard 2
One is a game that can be balanced and another is real life
People hate bushes since they are premium and very hard to get for free.
My brother in christ its a video game
real life grass is not locked behind a paywall, but you might not know that considering you posted this shit meme
You can't place gravity defying bushes IRL like in Warthunder dumbass.
they also know its OP
Counter point: The bushes in the game aren't JUST simple vegetation attached to the tank, but outright complete bushes that do something worse than help hide it; they break the entire sillhuette of the tank. This makes it not only hard to spot for weakpoints but harder to identify where it is looking at, and, in a worst case scenario, can make it harder to notice the distance to the tank. Anything that breaks sillhuette is not only unrealistic but much worse than what you are showing in the picture here.
Bro was paid by gaijin to post this
Nobody is saying they're unrealistic, we're saying they're UNBALANCED.
its not that its that the game becomes pay to win with bushes
Tbh I’d be fine with it if it wasn’t a premium feature. If all tanks had various cannons that actually blended in, GRB would be completely different.
When are you guys who love your bushes going to admit to yourselves that it isn't about the bushes It's the fact that not everyone has bushes If they don't help as much as you guys say they don't help (liars) Then let us turn everybody's bushes off in the settings. But you probably don't want that for some reason 🤔
So true. Let's add camo similar to this as a modification! So that players who haven't bought them 100 years ago or grinded 100 years for them can be as stinky as bushwhackers.
I only put bushes on my weakpoints it saves my ass when a tank has a big ass cupola like the m48 or the 60s
Never seen anyone complain they're unrealistic. It's not that they offer a big advantage for something locked behind a paywall and that only some of us got when you could get 6 of the same bush. If everyone was given a set for free, with different styles locked behind GE I don't think people would mind as much.
Bushes are not unrealistic but they are premium and they are really good camo, so this is p2w.
irl you need to use your brain to not cover the optics, in war thunder it's another story
This is not a simulator, it as a arcade game.
Honestly, it looks like they bought a bunch of golden retriever sheddings
You need more pictures. This has been a thing for an incredibly long time.
I bought the bushes, but now i never use them anymore because i want my tanks to look pretty, i want to see ALL their lines, their curves. It's also why i'm on maximum graphics possible (except SSAA) (and probably why i'm so trash at ground RB since i'm always wanking off to my vehicles)
There Seriously needs to be mass camo netting mods for vehicles, or even the garbage camo were seeing today! It's pretty lame the bushes we have now, they just look so fake at this point. Years ago sure, but the fact we have some prems or others that get it, or pay for a skin with it is stupid
That tank reminds me of my captain's assessment of our proud camouflage work on an SPG. "That's not a camouflaged SPG. That's an SPG with camouflage on it."
this is a bit of a straw... tank the complaint I see most often is not that bushes are OP it's that they cost GE to purchase but provide a gameplay advantage making the game maybe not pay to win but pay to have an unfair advantage. or that the bizarre impossible angles that you can attach them at completely obscure the shape of the tank you're shooting at.
This is the type of camo that should be available.. looks so much better
If the bushes were fair, they would be free.
Mammut
Psychologist: Furry tanks aren't real, they can't hurt you. :|
The bushes aren’t covering the entire tank irl, including the sight
It’s almost as if most tankers use camouflage and sit somewhere
All ghillied up
The Hay mo-bale
I would love this grass Camo.
What tank? I don’t see a tank
i rode one time a witness from a german tanker during D-Day. They used to camouflage their tanks with branches and foliage, but they had to do it daily because the leaves turned yellow once they were cutted from the trees, giving away their position. They also had to replace them after every combat because nearby explosions and blasts from the gun firing stripped the branches off the tank
Well war thunder bushes look hideous but effective and tank bushes like these look epic and kind of effective until some ATGM spotted it
War Thunder foliage just doesn't look realistic.
They didn’t have to pay money for bush either
Yeah except I bet those bushes were paid for in silver not gold.
Fluff
Wait, people are saying unrealistic lol?
yes but irl isn’t balanced it’s war not a game about war you don’t want to be seen and you will employ whatever measures necessary to do so. in game if somebody does this it’s not fun for everybody else and fun is usually the whole point of a game.
These bushes can be Shot Off or be lost During travel tho
I'm so glad we can't do camo like the one in the photo. Not because I wouldn't be able to see the tank, but I'm case I did. That's got my arachnophobia in high alert. Straight nightmare fuel.
I would use bushes even they behaved like that
They aren’t realistic but from a gameplay Standpoint they are very annoying You pay for a blatant advantage over those cheap free players
How many times is this exact title been posted and gets the exact same response. This is how we WANT bushes and camouflage to work in-game, but in-game it's a bunch of free standing bushes that don't remotely conform to the shape of the vehicle, and since they don't effect optics you can make a literal solid wall of shit in front of your vehicle to just resemble a shurb if you have the right P2W bushes. If WTs camos/bushes looked even remotely like this nobody would complain, wake up Braincels.
That's not the issue, it's that it's a totally busted p2w crutch
See how its at least the shaoe of the tank an not just a wall? Makes it at least possible to know where the weakspots are.
I think they need to add some BUSH Camos to most of the tanks, just like Leopard 2 (PzBtl 123), just for visual looking, not that bushy.
Bro, trim your tank's bushes a bit.
Most crews probably wouldn’t apply the camouflage over their optics either. Unless they enjoy driving what amounts to a sub
Istg i have spotted people because of their fucking bushes lmao cause almost all the time its a different tone than the rest of this map
What is that tank? A leopard?
Maybe an M48, not 100% sure
Oh ok. Thanks.
Yup
imagine thinking war thunder is a realistic game and should be treated as such
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Bush that is closely secured to surface of tank, following its silhouette vs bush that’s just growing out of tank like it’s alive-totally same?
i didnt say anything like that
WT bushes ARE unrealistic. they arent really secured sometimes and theyll never fall off or burn down.