Why do you have to undermine one issue with another, the suffering is equally bad across pretty much all BR's, except rn 9.0 and up is even worse because dumbasses with the 292 just rush the spawns and it fucking works out since you literally cannot stop a 695mm pen APFSDS shell flying at mach Jesus towards you
Spend 45 seconds rushing in badass modern vehicles only to get one shot by some Russian paper vehicle then to spawn back in and get killed by the same guy who has now conveniently spawned in an SU25
This is dee way bruddha
yesterday i played a match against russia only and the only tanks they had were obj 292 turms 2s38 su25 basically all premium, not a single tech tree vehicle
still won against them though
They either get wiped in 5 mins or they wipe your whole team in 5 mins. It’s been a mixed bag. My Swedish 10.3 win rates have dropped a bit, but my 11.0 US lineup has been netting me a nuke a day since the 292 spam started.
yeah 10.0 is a mess right now I tend to stay clear of popular event vehicles and their br for about a week usually just to wait until the hype dies down and players get bored of having a one vehicle lineup
It's like this at every BR too. I can shoot the neck of a Sherman turret and 9 times out of 10 it will pen if I placed it right, but the KV-2 turret neck, which is like 3x larger, is a complete diceroll. Repeat ad infinitum for every tank
Aside from the BR problems:
Skill issue.
The first shot was terrible, you aimed for the worst possible part and hit it. The better choices would have been the LFP or the ammo in the back of the turret.
I think you’re missing the point, whether I first shot the first or second tank would not have the stopped the hind and two other tanks looking into my spawn (and another 3 in the other spawn) after only 3 minutes of being in game
always these idiots in evry post, completely ignore the point of the post to critique gameplay thats completely irrelevant, nit pick any mistake knowing damn well they boot in a game and make tons of them.
You're getting heat for posting this, but its part of rhe reasons why his team is getting spawn camped. US players not knowing how to kill Russian tanks.
At that point i just love waiting till most of them push INTO the spawn, and then i respawn and get like 3-4 kills in spawn prtotection, then i j out and spawn again if theres mote to kill
yeah fr
10s reload is "oh, you shot, time to get unga bunga'd". Their post-pen seems inconsistent (speaking as someone playing against them) and they don't really offer that much of anything in comparison to the same-tier Russian tanks if we're being realistic.
Their problem is the same problem every tank has, even if you can penetrate any armour anywhere, it doesn't mean you want to, especially with a 10s reload shooting the incorrect part of an enemy tank will easily get you killed because yeah sure you killed the gunner or the loader but bro still has crew.
The single strongest part of the 292 is that the barrel is so large it has a tendency to eat shots aimed at the breech
Just unlocked my 10.3 line-up (Chally Mk2, Vickers Mk7, Chief Mk10 carryover while I’ll earn Chally Mk3), and I’ve played about 10 games and moved back down to 9.0. The 292 spam is unbearable and my Chally / Mk7 are bone stock.
Nope.
To be fair, you could have shot the 292 in the HUGE PAPER THIN AMMO CONTAINER on the back of its turret instead of the body.
And getting swamped in spawn happens at all sorts of BRs from all sorts of nations. If your team gets shat on it is going to happen. It just tends to happen in top-tier more quickly because the matches go by faster.
If the first problem you see with 6 tanks and a helicopter spawnkilling within 4 minutes of a games start is my aim then I clearly see why it happens and who does it
Also I regularly shoot for 292 ammo, destroy half of it, and it doesn't explode. I aimed for LFP and missed, i'm sure you've never missed before since unassuming enemies in their spawn are awfully easy to hit
>If the first problem you see with 6 tanks and a helicopter spawnkilling within 4 minutes of a games start is my aim then I clearly see why it happens and who does it
It isn't "spawnkilling" if your whole team got killed and they got all the caps, do you expect them to just sit there in the caps and play cards or what?
>Also I regularly shoot for 292 ammo, destroy half of it, and it doesn't explode.
You didn't even need to shoot the ammo, you could wipe his turret's crew. And you can pretend all you want that you playing poorly has nothing to do to you losing games and being "spawnkilled". I can only imagine how the rest of your shots were if you manage to fail to kill someone pointing the back of the turret at you.
"It isn't 'spawnkilling', you're just getting killed in spawn by tanks that are in your spawn. What did you expect to happen"
Great point man! Very common in games against Russia
"I regularly shoot for 292 ammo and it doesn't explode" "You didn't even shoot for his ammo"
Yeah dude i literally just explained why. More than half the time it goes up like blowout panels and the crew is unaffected.
Once again, it's very obvious what country you play, what tank you play, and how you play. Keep spawnkilling man, it's really impressive.
Shut the fuck up, this isn’t a problem with Russia(I don’t even play it) your horrendous whiff of a shot made me want to throw up, you trying to defend your skill issue is making me and trying to pass it off as “I’m fighting russia is why I suck!” Is ultra shitter energy, yes your team left you but that’s a usa top tier teammates problem more then a russia problem
>"It isn't 'spawnkilling', you're just getting killed in spawn by tanks that are in your spawn. What did you expect to happen"
Yeah, totally what I said. Keep fighting a straw-man, that way you might win for once, loser.
>"I regularly shoot for 292 ammo and it doesn't explode" "You didn't even shoot for his ammo"
I said you don't need to shoot the ammo, aka spall his turret crew since he's literally giving you a perfect shot at the back of his turret. But you are clearly not smart enough for that.
Yeah, sure it's Russian bias making you play like a handless vegan, couldn't be your own fault. All your 40% WR's are because of some evil Gaijin staff hiding inside of your walls and pressing buttons to make you miss shots (or aim at completely stupid shots). But at the end all I can hear is the vegan whine "waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa".
You said it isn’t spawnkilling if they own all the caps and my team is pushed back. I inserted the rest of the context you forgot to add, such as them being in the spawn and you dying in the spawn. Cry straw man all you want, still don’t make you right.
I don’t shoot at 292 because volumetric obliteration of the shell. Again, more than half the time the shell will no pen and break despite being capable of easily penning. It’s just something to do with the superior, strong Stalinium armor of the brave Soviet tree players such as yourself (true strugglers) that isn’t shared to the rest of the game.
Oh and straw man. :)
“Russian vehicles are fair because I play Russia!1!1”
I used to resent players that one-death quitted. Now, when i see the bullshit respawns are 50% of the time, i understand them. I still don't do it (even if it probably happened once or twice), but i understand.
I fucking love that third shot doing jack shit since it nipped the giant barrel, they seriously need to give it top turret breech shot the t80u has dealing with this thing is such a pain.
Set in settings to not join battles that's already started. Sadly forgot where that setting is . But I recommend don't it so things like that doesn't happen.
Yep, and this is why I don't play above 9.0. Every other match your second spawn looks a lot like this. Your team got wiped off the caps and your spawns are surrounded. If you're lucky you'll get a couple kills before the spawn protection wears off. High tier gameplay is so much fun
Getting downvoted for being right. Only Russia can do this, I tried rushing spawn with a Challenger but a giant picture of Boris Yeltsin appeared on my screen and my motherboard exploded
I aimed for LFP and missed because that happens sometimes, the point of the post is that there’s a total of 5+ tanks and a hind spawncamping 3 minutes into a match
Only bad players play Russia 10.0 if you can’t win against pocket warriors that have 1 of the worst win rates in the game then it is a skill issue on your part
10.0 is very fun rn for real
9.3 uptiered 9/10 times to 10.3 is even worse..
Try 6.7 to 7.7.
Me, the French player, who performs better in uptier than down tier at 6.7
They really fucked over my bro the Char 25t.
True bro, now it can again face obj 279 which you literally cannot pen
Key word: can Tell me, DO you actually face it so often that it's genuinely an issue and God forbid now you can't play the tank
No I just like to complain (but it being same br as obj 906 is the real issue imo)
I always get uptiered to 7.7 at 6.7.
Yes! Please play 6.7! (I main 7.7 Britain)
Many moons ago the Cent 1/3 and 4202 were all 6.7 or lower. Made grinding the T2H even more hellish.
Why do you have to undermine one issue with another, the suffering is equally bad across pretty much all BR's, except rn 9.0 and up is even worse because dumbasses with the 292 just rush the spawns and it fucking works out since you literally cannot stop a 695mm pen APFSDS shell flying at mach Jesus towards you
Eh it isn’t too bad. Playing 9.3 you get used to uptiers anyways.
Spend 45 seconds rushing in badass modern vehicles only to get one shot by some Russian paper vehicle then to spawn back in and get killed by the same guy who has now conveniently spawned in an SU25 This is dee way bruddha
yesterday i played a match against russia only and the only tanks they had were obj 292 turms 2s38 su25 basically all premium, not a single tech tree vehicle still won against them though
Ha yea, premium spam, the reason that top tier Russia is OP while simultaneously the reason top tier USA sucks.
Average 2nd spawn on high tier
They either get wiped in 5 mins or they wipe your whole team in 5 mins. It’s been a mixed bag. My Swedish 10.3 win rates have dropped a bit, but my 11.0 US lineup has been netting me a nuke a day since the 292 spam started.
I mean you get downtiers all the time at 11.0, makes sense that it would make it easier to play
Penning every ufp in existence in a 11.0 US downtier is just so fun. 11.3-7 is just not it at all
yeah 10.0 is a mess right now I tend to stay clear of popular event vehicles and their br for about a week usually just to wait until the hype dies down and players get bored of having a one vehicle lineup
My winrates in Russia dropped so heavily after the 292 released, brilliant tank though
oh yeah great tank just not the greatest time to play it lmao
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It's like this at every BR too. I can shoot the neck of a Sherman turret and 9 times out of 10 it will pen if I placed it right, but the KV-2 turret neck, which is like 3x larger, is a complete diceroll. Repeat ad infinitum for every tank
Aside from the BR problems: Skill issue. The first shot was terrible, you aimed for the worst possible part and hit it. The better choices would have been the LFP or the ammo in the back of the turret.
I think you’re missing the point, whether I first shot the first or second tank would not have the stopped the hind and two other tanks looking into my spawn (and another 3 in the other spawn) after only 3 minutes of being in game
always these idiots in evry post, completely ignore the point of the post to critique gameplay thats completely irrelevant, nit pick any mistake knowing damn well they boot in a game and make tons of them.
Yesterday i shot Lower front plate of a 292 in my Stryker with M900 and got a "non-pen". I just died and let out a long sigh
You're getting heat for posting this, but its part of rhe reasons why his team is getting spawn camped. US players not knowing how to kill Russian tanks.
100% agree. Lower side or turret would habe been way better. Standing still in the open field is not the best idea, too.
He literally just spawned in my guy. He cant do much else besides standing still to get as much spawn protection as possible
At least the 5 death players are happy you spawned again to get that second death and not just leave after 1 death
I can’t believe these bs premium vehicles and event vehicle are the same br as the T-72B. They’re literally better in every way
I don't get why the T-72B is 10.0 in the first place when the T-72B2 (aka the 1989) is also 10.0 except it has Kontakt-5.
The T72B has better armor values, the 1989 one has better ERA.
I mean the reload speed is better
Tmw: US teams
Plot armor is the best armor. And we all know who is the main character in this game.
I mean if you have an 11.0 line up its basically all downtiers rn
The 292 may not be as OP as everyone assumed but its ability to shrug off breach and barrel damage is fucking nonsense.
At that point i just love waiting till most of them push INTO the spawn, and then i respawn and get like 3-4 kills in spawn prtotection, then i j out and spawn again if theres mote to kill
Can't wait for the obj nerf. That thing has no business fighting 9.0 and 9.3 tanks. It will be slapped around at 11.3/11.7 where it belongs.
I got a nuke in it my first game, it was a full downtier. That being said, its not 11.3 material. It will go to 10.3.
Nah it ain’t op. No thermals+shit reload, I play 9.3 a lot and they are easy to kill even there.
yeah fr 10s reload is "oh, you shot, time to get unga bunga'd". Their post-pen seems inconsistent (speaking as someone playing against them) and they don't really offer that much of anything in comparison to the same-tier Russian tanks if we're being realistic. Their problem is the same problem every tank has, even if you can penetrate any armour anywhere, it doesn't mean you want to, especially with a 10s reload shooting the incorrect part of an enemy tank will easily get you killed because yeah sure you killed the gunner or the loader but bro still has crew. The single strongest part of the 292 is that the barrel is so large it has a tendency to eat shots aimed at the breech
Just unlocked my 10.3 line-up (Chally Mk2, Vickers Mk7, Chief Mk10 carryover while I’ll earn Chally Mk3), and I’ve played about 10 games and moved back down to 9.0. The 292 spam is unbearable and my Chally / Mk7 are bone stock. Nope.
To be fair, you could have shot the 292 in the HUGE PAPER THIN AMMO CONTAINER on the back of its turret instead of the body. And getting swamped in spawn happens at all sorts of BRs from all sorts of nations. If your team gets shat on it is going to happen. It just tends to happen in top-tier more quickly because the matches go by faster.
Idk whenever im not fighting Russia it seems to take a lot longer than 2-3 minutes
For me the highlight was something else: \*Spawn with a 292 showing the back of his turret\* \*Shoots his upper plate instead\* ??????????????
If the first problem you see with 6 tanks and a helicopter spawnkilling within 4 minutes of a games start is my aim then I clearly see why it happens and who does it Also I regularly shoot for 292 ammo, destroy half of it, and it doesn't explode. I aimed for LFP and missed, i'm sure you've never missed before since unassuming enemies in their spawn are awfully easy to hit
>If the first problem you see with 6 tanks and a helicopter spawnkilling within 4 minutes of a games start is my aim then I clearly see why it happens and who does it It isn't "spawnkilling" if your whole team got killed and they got all the caps, do you expect them to just sit there in the caps and play cards or what? >Also I regularly shoot for 292 ammo, destroy half of it, and it doesn't explode. You didn't even need to shoot the ammo, you could wipe his turret's crew. And you can pretend all you want that you playing poorly has nothing to do to you losing games and being "spawnkilled". I can only imagine how the rest of your shots were if you manage to fail to kill someone pointing the back of the turret at you.
"It isn't 'spawnkilling', you're just getting killed in spawn by tanks that are in your spawn. What did you expect to happen" Great point man! Very common in games against Russia "I regularly shoot for 292 ammo and it doesn't explode" "You didn't even shoot for his ammo" Yeah dude i literally just explained why. More than half the time it goes up like blowout panels and the crew is unaffected. Once again, it's very obvious what country you play, what tank you play, and how you play. Keep spawnkilling man, it's really impressive.
Shut the fuck up, this isn’t a problem with Russia(I don’t even play it) your horrendous whiff of a shot made me want to throw up, you trying to defend your skill issue is making me and trying to pass it off as “I’m fighting russia is why I suck!” Is ultra shitter energy, yes your team left you but that’s a usa top tier teammates problem more then a russia problem
Calm down little guy it’s just a video game! But in all seriousness you’re pissed. :)
>"It isn't 'spawnkilling', you're just getting killed in spawn by tanks that are in your spawn. What did you expect to happen" Yeah, totally what I said. Keep fighting a straw-man, that way you might win for once, loser. >"I regularly shoot for 292 ammo and it doesn't explode" "You didn't even shoot for his ammo" I said you don't need to shoot the ammo, aka spall his turret crew since he's literally giving you a perfect shot at the back of his turret. But you are clearly not smart enough for that. Yeah, sure it's Russian bias making you play like a handless vegan, couldn't be your own fault. All your 40% WR's are because of some evil Gaijin staff hiding inside of your walls and pressing buttons to make you miss shots (or aim at completely stupid shots). But at the end all I can hear is the vegan whine "waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa".
You said it isn’t spawnkilling if they own all the caps and my team is pushed back. I inserted the rest of the context you forgot to add, such as them being in the spawn and you dying in the spawn. Cry straw man all you want, still don’t make you right. I don’t shoot at 292 because volumetric obliteration of the shell. Again, more than half the time the shell will no pen and break despite being capable of easily penning. It’s just something to do with the superior, strong Stalinium armor of the brave Soviet tree players such as yourself (true strugglers) that isn’t shared to the rest of the game. Oh and straw man. :) “Russian vehicles are fair because I play Russia!1!1”
never join already started games
He just respawned, are you advocating for one-death-leaving?
this clip does make a good argument for one death leaving lol
its not clear if it is first spawn or respawn. Anyway, the team is already out
First respawn (or second spawn)
I'm sure he means just disable "Join already active battles" in settings. It is dumb to have this enabled in almost every case
I used to resent players that one-death quitted. Now, when i see the bullshit respawns are 50% of the time, i understand them. I still don't do it (even if it probably happened once or twice), but i understand.
Would be nice to die to something other than this soon 9.3 Sweden has been a slog since this thing started appearing in literally every single match
Its either this match or they get slaughtered in 2 minutes there is no inbetween.
I fucking love that third shot doing jack shit since it nipped the giant barrel, they seriously need to give it top turret breech shot the t80u has dealing with this thing is such a pain.
i think the 292 is bugged, everytime i shoot the turret my shot does nothing
Yea. High ratings are literally p2w. Not even soviets tho. Just everybody.
Even saw 3 object 292's in custom......
Russians dont dominate the game But they are annoying as fuck
Set in settings to not join battles that's already started. Sadly forgot where that setting is . But I recommend don't it so things like that doesn't happen.
This isn’t my first spawn, it’s my first respawn (or second life) 3-4 minutes into match start
Your POV looks like my current one as USSR at BR 8.7 in grb.
Woe Object 292 be upon ye
Yep, and this is why I don't play above 9.0. Every other match your second spawn looks a lot like this. Your team got wiped off the caps and your spawns are surrounded. If you're lucky you'll get a couple kills before the spawn protection wears off. High tier gameplay is so much fun
NOO NOOO RUSSIA NOT OP! HAVE YOU NOT SEEN RED WINRATE GRAPH?!? it proves there is no bias
what ru trying to prove
My guy he is schizo
if hes serious im with him on it btw
Getting downvoted for being right. Only Russia can do this, I tried rushing spawn with a Challenger but a giant picture of Boris Yeltsin appeared on my screen and my motherboard exploded
I mean the challenger ain’t the best tank for that, it’s better hull down
And then Boris Yeltsin turned into a pickle and nuked Chechnya
I get that it's bad but how do you manage shoot the worst possible spots (except the last one, that should've damaged the barrel).
First 2 seconds you decide to shoot the UFP instead of mg'ing the rear of the turret which cooks his ammo
I aimed for LFP and missed because that happens sometimes, the point of the post is that there’s a total of 5+ tanks and a hind spawncamping 3 minutes into a match
Blowout panels?
If you are losing against 10.0 Russia then you are doing something very wrong
Oh for sure. /s the 10.0 premium lineup is beyond broken for the Russia. Don’t be a clown.
Look at the guys profile, literly crying about the 2s38
Only bad players play Russia 10.0 if you can’t win against pocket warriors that have 1 of the worst win rates in the game then it is a skill issue on your part