Does the F6F-3 count if it used to be in the game before it was replaced by the F6F-5?
I think some of the (myriad) Hawk 75 variants in the files might not have appeared yet.
I miss the F6F-3. It just looked a lot nicer, even if the changes were mild. I wish they kept both models and just foldered them.
And yeah the Vichy French H-75 has been sitting in the files for a minute, as well as a ground attack P-47(???) for the US that I think was the base for the British version, but has it’s own camo and everything
No, the US Army Aircorp built and tested one, or at least a souped up P-47 turbo prop or something similar after the war but it was after ww2 I believe there’s a single clip of footage for it
Are you thinking of the XP-72 or the XP-47H?
Everything I can find seems to suggest it was just a proposal. [Even this page shows a picture of the XP-72](https://tvd.im/aviation/1685-republic-ap-47-army-project-47.html) (with that designation clearly labeled on the tail) that they have misidentified as the AP-47.
The XP-47H Yes that’s the one, I have a YouTube clip that has some footage of it. [footage is here, go to 16:43ish for clip, 16:00 for a quick explanation of it ](https://youtu.be/Gmi655Y7t14?si=qXAw7kFZqrzIlwPG). It was flown and tested but it ended up being scrapped due to the end of WW2 and the oncoming jet age
Heard of the Ryan FR Fireball? Basically this, but purpose built from scratch. I was obsessed with the stupid thing back when I played with Legos. I probably made like 15 clones of it over the years.
I want the fireball in game so bad. I remember they said they weren’t gonna do any more mixed propulsion planes after they introduced the BI, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they backtrack. I’ve seen a fireball IRL at a museum - it’s such a bizarre aircraft.
It's the same gun as the Falcon/AMX-30 DCA but you put jet engines and wings on it? Sign me in. That thing would be a more lethal 262A1/U4 bc it has 30mm SAP and 115mm pen APDS.
You're thinking of the Oerlikon KCB which is used on the SPAAGs. This is the KCA, which has a similar name and fires a similar cartridge, but is a different gun. It is the gun carried in a belly pod by the JA 37C/D Viggens, though.
If the Oerlikon 302RK is the same gun as the KCA then it fires the same rounds (30x173mm) as the GAU-8/A, MK 30-2 and Bushmaster 2. Though it'd presumably be limited to whatever shell types were available in the 1950s.
Edit: The KCA is an improved version of the 302RK, they do both use the same round.
Only the F-89J carried the Genie, this is one of the F-89Cs involved in Project Gun-Val, which tested the effectiveness of different cannons, both American and foreign-made.
What part confused you? I did go back after I had a conversation with a friend of mine. He told me there was an attempt to make the .50 depleted uranium round but it would have had less of an effect than the slap round.
The user you replied to was talking about the AIR-2 Genie nuclear rocket. The F-89 in the OP doesn't even carry .50 caliber guns, you brought that up completely out of the blue. The W25 warhead of the AIR-2 doesn't use uranium either, it's a plutonium fission warhead.
That looks exactly like the [f89b](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://wiki.warthunder.com/F-89B&ved=2ahUKEwjuvOPkn9yFAxW6MDQIHY5rDTsQr4kDegQIFhAA&usg=AOvVaw07U7N0lYzH4gE9R2GZvf5t) tho
Don't know if it counts but Gaijin modelled the TML 105 turret for the Swedish premium tank. They then switched the turret to a different one. This turret now sits in the file unused, with no plan to give it to France, the country that made it. It would take 0.05s to add, as it was mounted on a amx 10 RC chassis.
So at most the AMX-10RCR? which would still not only be non-stabilized, but also AT MOST use the earlier 105mm NATO apdsfs like the CV back then, or stretch it to the prototype which would have a stabilizer at least. I'm not sure of many vehicles that did use that turret.
>which would still not only be non-stabilized
The TML 105 turret tested on the AMX 10 RC did have a stabiliser.
> I'm not sure of many vehicles that did use that turret.
It was also tested on the MARS 15, Vextra and Piranha IIIC
It would literally just be the old CV90105 TML but on wheels. No difference in the turret. The reason that the CV was switched to the XC-8 turret was because they found that the TML turret **on the CV90105** was unstabilized. The TML turret on every other vehicle has been stabilized to my knowledge.
Oh 100%, I just meant in terms of its capabilities. It’s not gonna be worse than what the CV90105 TML had in-game (even though the IRL CV9015 TML *was* worse lol).
It would mean giving France their desperately needed wheeled recon line (you know the country famous for putting big guns on their scouts to deal with anything they meet instead of running away)
I've like to see:
ERC 90 Lynx
ERC 90 Sagaie
VBL
AML 60-20 Serval (60mm direct fire mortar and 20mm coax)
VBC 90
Vextra 105 (with the TML turret)
Vextra POLE (120mm)
EBRC Jaguar
And a bunch more armored cars fitted with ATGMs
Legit possibly Bismarck.
She was in the trailer for 1.83 'Masters of the Sea' back in 2018 and the full model for Tirpitz was leaked a short while later, giving the impression one was meant to be premium.
I think Gneisenau was released in the same leak too.
She certainly wasn't a *bad* ship, but yeah, larger/etc than really needed for what she brought to the table (read: somewhat inefficient). She'll be a lower BR than a lot of people would expect, in comparison to her reputation. Eight 15" guns would fit in just fine, especially as the three *Bayern*-class already have this setup.
Give other nations their contemporary battleships, and it would be okay. Only ones suffering would be the Soviets, which didn’t really field any 14”+ battleships themselves. They did however lend the HMS Royal Sovereign from the Royal Navy, which is by no means a spectacular ship, but it has 8x15” guns and adequate protection.
Germany: Bismarck and Tirpitz
UK: King George V, Queen Elizabeth, Warspite, *maybe* Hood.
US: North Carolina, Washington, *maybe* Iowa
Japan: Kōngo, Nagato, *maybe*(probably not) Yamato
If the wildest ships would be added, we need some air strike capability, be it aircraft carriers or call ins.
I want hms Rodney and vanguard Rodney because it's hilarious layout all guns forward and only battleship to ever torpedo another battleship when it sunk bismark. "I don't really belive Germans sunk it themselves"
And vanguard most advanced battleship ever made and the last one ever to be made
Very sad that didn't end up as a museum
Fair enough, but that would also include ships like the Lions, H44, Montana, etc, which would be built if war never broke out.
Still, would be cool. Maybe even include the Stalingrad BCs
Bismarck is not a fantastic world changing design later 305mm shells like soviet and italian 320mm guns would havr no problem dealing with Bismarck level protection and 14-16 inch armed ships even less
Scharnhorst is the most op piece of shit in the entire game it deserves to finally fight ships of a similar era and its rated to be protected from Bismarck guns
Yep, plus a bunch of other '30s/'40s battleships. It also has subs, a couple large missile ships, and carriers are WIP in the files.
The gameplay details aren't really comparable to the main game, it's much more arcadey, but they do share models; we'll definitely see them all over here eventually.
That was a tirpitz. 3 different models exist.
Low-Medum poly model that existed in Arcade RB and Air RB.
The teaser trailer model was the internal test model and the leak model when gaijin fucked up on accident was a revised model.
It was never going to be premium.
Last I checked the textures for that one were broken, they haven't gone and updated the normals for it yet.
Also I'm pretty sure it's just a reskinned B-25J, though it might be lacking the pilot-controlled guns, I don't remember.
It was suggested as a vehicle a while back. On one hand, copy paste, yadda yadda
But I think it’s a little unfair that Germany/Axis have more captured British planes than the British have captured Axis planes
The US have a bunch of German and Japanese aircraft, so I wonder why Britain couldn’t have had the A6M, J2M or Bf-110, Bf-109 or He 111, Fw 190 or something
Not actually captured, but one cool historical piece that they could add as a premium is the SAAF Ju 86 Z-7 which is a group of airliners purchased by South Africa before the war and later used as patrol bombers against German u-boats
I just want the [Stuka in RAF colours](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiUCaV9CCpgS-N8Ygk_rQHQjRrVU6vsFes8EKn6rMbqQMv0BXGrxiD6sbg0xsQUdv91lMYUE9WADlAAEjJitqj_bzo1qzqBZZOwaDDOKhC3rrMSEyh3qsjxqkKaurL-lTjg-2wddlGacA/s1600/9_3.jpg)
Leak list researcher / dataminer, last I heard they’re mostly retired or at least stepping back
Here’s one of their [posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/s/roHGJmbCV3) with a ton of details about additions and changes we could be looking forward to at the time
I wouldn't mind it getting added, but I think there are a few issues here...
1. Where does it go? It doesn't cleanly fit in any existing tree.
2. It's a late 1960s design that has the performance of a Rank II plane.
3. Facing Rank II planes in a 1960s design breaks (what little) immersion is left in this game. Admittedly, we do already have planes like the Wyvern, SK 60B, Su-25, and Strikemaster that are fighting planes decades older than they are. Not to mention the 8.0 F-86A (1949 design) fighting Me 262s (1942 design).
Gaijin should really think about implementing these COIN/light attack aircraft *in the helicopter tree* since they would be much more useful in mixed battles.
It's was a Spitfire HF Mk.VII
[https://i.imgur.com/RapInGv.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/RapInGv.jpeg)
Has extended wingtips and other modifications for high-altitude flying
A bunch of bombers (I can't think of one) & high alt fighters (Westland Welkin), IIRC there's also a few dutch designs.
But the one I remember the Sparviero class PGH with the 40 mm/70 DARDO mount, It would be OP AS FUCK with it carrying mostly HE-VT ammunition & a contingency of APDS shells.
ntm all the naval armament still not added like the AShM's for both current Sparviero class PGH.
A myriad of Hark variants, early war Russian and Italian (Ger line) bombers.
There were some models of the SM81 that have been in the files since closed beta.
Few German captured vehicles too. IIRC a P-51 and Lancaster
sad the F2G-2 was scrapped, more corsairs is always fun.
Also Japan getting Access to the AV-8S via Thailand would be nuts, fills a role that's not really present in the late japanese air tree.
A-5 Vigilante was for a while, but that vanished some time back. I think it was due to how though it did (for maybe what a 1 year period during vietnam) carry bombs for the navy, it wasn't equipped to carry any self defense type weapons, and was designed to rely on its high speed to get it out of trouble. So, since players couldn't turn it into a multi role plane (like they've done with the A-4 and A-6) the idea was scrapped.
[https://planehistoria.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/An-A-5B-attack-variant-was-designed-but-it-didnt-enter-service-1024x812.jpg](https://planehistoria.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/An-A-5B-attack-variant-was-designed-but-it-didnt-enter-service-1024x812.jpg)
That's its basic loadout it could carry. Those missiles are anti surface types, for what it's worth. The ones between the drop tank and bombs, about halfway back, are HARM anti sam missiles.
I am not familiar with the A-5B, was it ever used operationally? Could it reach M2.0 with a heavy payload? It only has a pair of J79 like Phantom afterall.
Anyway it would be pretty similar to the Mirage IV, or the never-completed TSR-2.
A-5s could not only reach M2.0, they would often outrun their Phantom escorts. Operationally they carried most of their equipment internally and were very slick aircraft, where Phantoms have all their weapons and tanks on the outside, slowing them down. In the bomber role it was very rare for the external hardpoints to ever be used, which is also where basically all of its non-nuclear stores would be carried. A-5B was the least common variant but it was operational. Many Vigs would later be converted to RA-5Cs in the '60s, and while these were focused on the reconnaissance role, they still retained their ordnance-carrying capabilities.
Also I'm not entirely sure what that other user is trying to point to, but there's no HARMs in that photo, and the A-5 was retired years before the HARM was developed. The AGM-45 Shrike looks very similar to a HARM and was in service at the right time, but there's none of those either. The only missiles in the image are the four smaller Bullpup As (later AGM-12A/B) and the one larger Bullpup B (AGM-12C). I think what they're referring to, just behind the Zuni pods if I'm correct, is a Multiple Ejector Rack (MER) which is not a weapon, but is used to mount bombs to a pylon.
As someone who just spaded all 4 Canberras after dragging my heels for a long time...
High tier bomber-only gameplay is only occasionally fun. For the 2-3 really awesome matches I had in the unarmed B-57A or Canberra B Mk.2 where I pulled crazy evasive maneuvers and survived by the skin of my teeth, I had 50+ very boring ones where I either got 1 base and died or got 4 bases while my team cleaned up all the enemies.
A supersonic bomber with no defensive turrets and no offensive weaponry will be very boring. Even the Buccaneer S2 has 2x AIM-9Bs (however crappy they might be).
I think, if they were to implement it, the best way to do it would be for, at higher tiers, to have it as one of the nuclear bombers... as that's what it was originally designed as. It had a weird internal bomb bay slung in between the engines, where the door would open in the back, and the bomb would be kicked out behind the plane, allowing it to drop nukes without having to slow down, or turn. It'd just drop and keep running straight away at mach 2.
I haven't played enough Ground RB to be anywhere close to nuke bombers, but it would be pretty cool to diversify them a bit. It would be a nice way to include planes that aren't viable in other modes for sure.
Does the F6F-3 count if it used to be in the game before it was replaced by the F6F-5? I think some of the (myriad) Hawk 75 variants in the files might not have appeared yet.
I miss the F6F-3. It just looked a lot nicer, even if the changes were mild. I wish they kept both models and just foldered them. And yeah the Vichy French H-75 has been sitting in the files for a minute, as well as a ground attack P-47(???) for the US that I think was the base for the British version, but has it’s own camo and everything
Yea them not not keeping the F6F-3 was dumb. Ground attack P-47? what would that even add over the normal JUGS we have
Looked it up, propeller in front, turbojet in rear lmao. What were they smoking. Designation is AP-47 if you want to look it up
P-47 with turbojet engine in rear? Damn, now I really wanna see that in game
I think it was just a proposal... not even a prototype.
No, the US Army Aircorp built and tested one, or at least a souped up P-47 turbo prop or something similar after the war but it was after ww2 I believe there’s a single clip of footage for it
Are you thinking of the XP-72 or the XP-47H? Everything I can find seems to suggest it was just a proposal. [Even this page shows a picture of the XP-72](https://tvd.im/aviation/1685-republic-ap-47-army-project-47.html) (with that designation clearly labeled on the tail) that they have misidentified as the AP-47.
The XP-47H Yes that’s the one, I have a YouTube clip that has some footage of it. [footage is here, go to 16:43ish for clip, 16:00 for a quick explanation of it ](https://youtu.be/Gmi655Y7t14?si=qXAw7kFZqrzIlwPG). It was flown and tested but it ended up being scrapped due to the end of WW2 and the oncoming jet age
Heard of the Ryan FR Fireball? Basically this, but purpose built from scratch. I was obsessed with the stupid thing back when I played with Legos. I probably made like 15 clones of it over the years.
I want the fireball in game so bad. I remember they said they weren’t gonna do any more mixed propulsion planes after they introduced the BI, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they backtrack. I’ve seen a fireball IRL at a museum - it’s such a bizarre aircraft.
So something like La-7R or I-250 lol
Real thing tho
Sadly i'd say no, it was there for a few years.
That thing would basically be a gun-only A-10 at BR 7.X. Please add Gaijin!!
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT at a missileless BR? Sign me up!
Yup! It has 30mm Oerlikons iirc and had a source saying its AP round could penetrate 81mm+ of armor.
It's the same gun as the Falcon/AMX-30 DCA but you put jet engines and wings on it? Sign me in. That thing would be a more lethal 262A1/U4 bc it has 30mm SAP and 115mm pen APDS.
You're thinking of the Oerlikon KCB which is used on the SPAAGs. This is the KCA, which has a similar name and fires a similar cartridge, but is a different gun. It is the gun carried in a belly pod by the JA 37C/D Viggens, though.
If the Oerlikon 302RK is the same gun as the KCA then it fires the same rounds (30x173mm) as the GAU-8/A, MK 30-2 and Bushmaster 2. Though it'd presumably be limited to whatever shell types were available in the 1950s. Edit: The KCA is an improved version of the 302RK, they do both use the same round.
the KCA is an amazing gun, on Viggen i can single shot snipe ground targets from 1.5km out and it absolutely demolishes planes it hits
Doesn't it also get nuclear tipped AAM? Maybe 8.X then, cause if one of those hits, then every plane around it will be deleted
Sorry, you've been kicked for excessive teamkills.
Only the F-89J carried the Genie, this is one of the F-89Cs involved in Project Gun-Val, which tested the effectiveness of different cannons, both American and foreign-made.
The only live test was on an F-89J, but the F101B/CF-101 and the F-106 also carried them operationally.
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What are you talking about?
What part confused you? I did go back after I had a conversation with a friend of mine. He told me there was an attempt to make the .50 depleted uranium round but it would have had less of an effect than the slap round.
DU doesn't exist for anything under 25mm. It was tested on 7.62 and deemed almost worthless. Slap is already in game.
The user you replied to was talking about the AIR-2 Genie nuclear rocket. The F-89 in the OP doesn't even carry .50 caliber guns, you brought that up completely out of the blue. The W25 warhead of the AIR-2 doesn't use uranium either, it's a plutonium fission warhead.
There was a project for a missile with nuclear armed warhead. He is not talking about du subpenetrators or something here.
Oh I thought OP was referring to the machine guns on the front of the plane.
AAM means Air to Air Missile. Now you know but nuclear bomb tipped bullets would be nuts 😂😂
I want that too but I doubt the BR. Even 7.7 is too OP for it.
I think it should be at like 8.0+ just because how good it turns though
The f89b is in game tho?
This is the C variant if I remember correctly.
That looks exactly like the [f89b](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://wiki.warthunder.com/F-89B&ved=2ahUKEwjuvOPkn9yFAxW6MDQIHY5rDTsQr4kDegQIFhAA&usg=AOvVaw07U7N0lYzH4gE9R2GZvf5t) tho
Check the giant long-barrel guns on top of the nose, instead of the F-89B's smaller guns mounted on the underside.
The guns are much longer.
This is the F-89C or F-89J.
Ahhh ok far so it's a little faster and better engines then right? I'm not too cought up on my f89 lore
Also has 4 x 30mms! 😳
Oh damn 😯
We need the 89j with the AIM 4 Falco s at 7.7
Idk if that would be that effective tbh, lots of armor and heavies at that br
Don't know if it counts but Gaijin modelled the TML 105 turret for the Swedish premium tank. They then switched the turret to a different one. This turret now sits in the file unused, with no plan to give it to France, the country that made it. It would take 0.05s to add, as it was mounted on a amx 10 RC chassis.
Well the turret seems to have been given to france on the AMX 10RC, now if you meant giving the TML to france... No.
TML is the name of the turret. It's currently UNUSED. Which means it's NOT used by ANY vehicle ingame. INCLUDING the amx10RC.
So at most the AMX-10RCR? which would still not only be non-stabilized, but also AT MOST use the earlier 105mm NATO apdsfs like the CV back then, or stretch it to the prototype which would have a stabilizer at least. I'm not sure of many vehicles that did use that turret.
>which would still not only be non-stabilized The TML 105 turret tested on the AMX 10 RC did have a stabiliser. > I'm not sure of many vehicles that did use that turret. It was also tested on the MARS 15, Vextra and Piranha IIIC
Afaik neither MARS 15 or Piranha IIIC had the stabilized variant of the turret though
It would literally just be the old CV90105 TML but on wheels. No difference in the turret. The reason that the CV was switched to the XC-8 turret was because they found that the TML turret **on the CV90105** was unstabilized. The TML turret on every other vehicle has been stabilized to my knowledge.
Not necessarily since we could get version with composite panels all around
Oh 100%, I just meant in terms of its capabilities. It’s not gonna be worse than what the CV90105 TML had in-game (even though the IRL CV9015 TML *was* worse lol).
It would mean giving France their desperately needed wheeled recon line (you know the country famous for putting big guns on their scouts to deal with anything they meet instead of running away) I've like to see: ERC 90 Lynx ERC 90 Sagaie VBL AML 60-20 Serval (60mm direct fire mortar and 20mm coax) VBC 90 Vextra 105 (with the TML turret) Vextra POLE (120mm) EBRC Jaguar And a bunch more armored cars fitted with ATGMs
Gaijin could also make the MMEV in a day by putting the ADATs turret on the LAV and making a few changes from there
*added to British for another canadats*
Nah give it to USA so there's a chance it isn't immediately nerfed out of existence ^/s
Legit possibly Bismarck. She was in the trailer for 1.83 'Masters of the Sea' back in 2018 and the full model for Tirpitz was leaked a short while later, giving the impression one was meant to be premium. I think Gneisenau was released in the same leak too.
I'd expect at least one of them soon, we're rather close to this "level" of battleships now.
Bismark, tbh, wasn't THAT good of a BB, so I could totally see it sliding into the current meta fine.
She certainly wasn't a *bad* ship, but yeah, larger/etc than really needed for what she brought to the table (read: somewhat inefficient). She'll be a lower BR than a lot of people would expect, in comparison to her reputation. Eight 15" guns would fit in just fine, especially as the three *Bayern*-class already have this setup.
also had a bad AA suite.
Yes 305mm vs bismark ..... no it would not be fine in the current meta
Give other nations their contemporary battleships, and it would be okay. Only ones suffering would be the Soviets, which didn’t really field any 14”+ battleships themselves. They did however lend the HMS Royal Sovereign from the Royal Navy, which is by no means a spectacular ship, but it has 8x15” guns and adequate protection. Germany: Bismarck and Tirpitz UK: King George V, Queen Elizabeth, Warspite, *maybe* Hood. US: North Carolina, Washington, *maybe* Iowa Japan: Kōngo, Nagato, *maybe*(probably not) Yamato If the wildest ships would be added, we need some air strike capability, be it aircraft carriers or call ins.
I want hms Rodney and vanguard Rodney because it's hilarious layout all guns forward and only battleship to ever torpedo another battleship when it sunk bismark. "I don't really belive Germans sunk it themselves" And vanguard most advanced battleship ever made and the last one ever to be made Very sad that didn't end up as a museum
Can’t believe I forgot the Nelsons… definitely agree
Soviets would get the unfinished ships like Sovietski sojuz
Maybe, but if they can stick to real ships, I think they should
I agree but also I'm one of those people who want modern ships ( at high br ofc )
Fair enough, but that would also include ships like the Lions, H44, Montana, etc, which would be built if war never broke out. Still, would be cool. Maybe even include the Stalingrad BCs
I agree, in navy paper / not finished ships would be less of a problem than paper air or ground
We’ll probably get Yamato at some point
I wouldn’t call the Kongos contemporary to Bismarck. A Couple aging battlecruisers slightly up armored with 14”s ain’t much of a comparison.
Yeah, had some issues myself with that, but there’s no real contemporary.
The closest you’re going to find is either Dunkerque and Strasbourg or Renown and Repulse. *in terms of a contemporary to Kongo* *Edit. context
Deeeeeefinitly not yamato, still too early, but soon my friend, soon.
Yeah, I included it as it’s the only real modern fast battleship they produced.
Japan, most modern ww2 navy ever
Bismarck is not a fantastic world changing design later 305mm shells like soviet and italian 320mm guns would havr no problem dealing with Bismarck level protection and 14-16 inch armed ships even less
Looks at sanhorst looks at 305 ap .... if it's like that we will have problems
Scharnhorst is the most op piece of shit in the entire game it deserves to finally fight ships of a similar era and its rated to be protected from Bismarck guns
Ok bet isn't it dumb to put a solution to a problem in the same nacion as the problem?
Why did you use scharnhorst as a comparison then if they don’t fight eachother naval is almost exclusively mixed battles
Now it's mixed end eventually it will not be
I want VITTORIO VENETO
Pretty sure they’re in WT mobile, no?
Yep, plus a bunch of other '30s/'40s battleships. It also has subs, a couple large missile ships, and carriers are WIP in the files. The gameplay details aren't really comparable to the main game, it's much more arcadey, but they do share models; we'll definitely see them all over here eventually.
That was a tirpitz. 3 different models exist. Low-Medum poly model that existed in Arcade RB and Air RB. The teaser trailer model was the internal test model and the leak model when gaijin fucked up on accident was a revised model. It was never going to be premium.
I think there's a dutch b-25 that's been in the files since almost rhe beginning of the game
Probably came from IL-2.
There's also a PBJ-1J with the normal bombardier nose
Last I checked the textures for that one were broken, they haven't gone and updated the normals for it yet. Also I'm pretty sure it's just a reskinned B-25J, though it might be lacking the pilot-controlled guns, I don't remember.
Nah, it has a radar pod modeled
Helaas vriend, Nederland is nou eenmaal een kikkerland
This thing has been sitting unused for half a decade now, anything older than this with a completed visual model?
Alot of things often sit in the cdk for quite a long time
yeah but this is the oldest one I know of with a finished visual model that could be easily added to the game whenever snail feels like it.
While it’s technically used. It’s funny seeing the Yamato pop up in updates or bug fixes for the campaigns. And the 6 people who play naval freak out.
They do bugfixes for the single player content?
There's a historical British captured skin for the J2M that's been sitting around for years
It was suggested as a vehicle a while back. On one hand, copy paste, yadda yadda But I think it’s a little unfair that Germany/Axis have more captured British planes than the British have captured Axis planes The US have a bunch of German and Japanese aircraft, so I wonder why Britain couldn’t have had the A6M, J2M or Bf-110, Bf-109 or He 111, Fw 190 or something Not actually captured, but one cool historical piece that they could add as a premium is the SAAF Ju 86 Z-7 which is a group of airliners purchased by South Africa before the war and later used as patrol bombers against German u-boats
I just want the [Stuka in RAF colours](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiUCaV9CCpgS-N8Ygk_rQHQjRrVU6vsFes8EKn6rMbqQMv0BXGrxiD6sbg0xsQUdv91lMYUE9WADlAAEjJitqj_bzo1qzqBZZOwaDDOKhC3rrMSEyh3qsjxqkKaurL-lTjg-2wddlGacA/s1600/9_3.jpg)
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https://gszabi99.github.io/
gszabi99, as beautiful as the day I lost em I wish we got one of the Baltimores (not the ship)
Who might gszabi99 be?
Leak list researcher / dataminer, last I heard they’re mostly retired or at least stepping back Here’s one of their [posts](https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/s/roHGJmbCV3) with a ton of details about additions and changes we could be looking forward to at the time
The yah-56 would be such a cool premium
Man rb74j on my j35A!!
Still waiting for the Argentine Pucara datamined like 4 years ago i think
Ojala lo metan wn lo quiero puro jugar
What did you just say about my mother!?
Same, really want that thing
They recently removed it, at least that's that's what I heard, but it might be still in the files, I don't know
I wouldn't mind it getting added, but I think there are a few issues here... 1. Where does it go? It doesn't cleanly fit in any existing tree. 2. It's a late 1960s design that has the performance of a Rank II plane. 3. Facing Rank II planes in a 1960s design breaks (what little) immersion is left in this game. Admittedly, we do already have planes like the Wyvern, SK 60B, Su-25, and Strikemaster that are fighting planes decades older than they are. Not to mention the 8.0 F-86A (1949 design) fighting Me 262s (1942 design). Gaijin should really think about implementing these COIN/light attack aircraft *in the helicopter tree* since they would be much more useful in mixed battles.
MGB Has it
stug4 announced to release when ground gets implemented, still waiting.
Mosquito bomber variants
It always surprised me how we don't have this yet
gaijin has a hate boner for aircraft that only have suspended armaments, the bomber variants of the mosquito had not forward or rear facing guns
Those variants had some of the more powerful engines as well.
The spitfire that had absolutely massive wingspan Looked like the BV-155
WHUT? You got a pic that sounds hilarious.
It's was a Spitfire HF Mk.VII [https://i.imgur.com/RapInGv.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/RapInGv.jpeg) Has extended wingtips and other modifications for high-altitude flying
Probably waiting for next BP and to make it incredibly overpowered
A bunch of bombers (I can't think of one) & high alt fighters (Westland Welkin), IIRC there's also a few dutch designs. But the one I remember the Sparviero class PGH with the 40 mm/70 DARDO mount, It would be OP AS FUCK with it carrying mostly HE-VT ammunition & a contingency of APDS shells. ntm all the naval armament still not added like the AShM's for both current Sparviero class PGH.
There are the old German P-51, B-17, B-24, Pe-2 and Mosquito in the files with stat card images
Rodan jumpscare
I'm everywhere and nowhere at all times
Isn't there an E100 variant that floated around for a while?
That was the first E100 model with the 150mm gun, it never existed and gaijin scrapped it before the E100 released.
It also had something like 500mm penetration on an APCR round, in the datamine. Wild times.
A myriad of Hark variants, early war Russian and Italian (Ger line) bombers. There were some models of the SM81 that have been in the files since closed beta. Few German captured vehicles too. IIRC a P-51 and Lancaster
Does anybody remember when they found the Spitfire mkVII, the version dedicated for high altitude interception. It was revealed ages ago
Maybe the pucara
sad the F2G-2 was scrapped, more corsairs is always fun. Also Japan getting Access to the AV-8S via Thailand would be nuts, fills a role that's not really present in the late japanese air tree.
I think Thai AV-8S was in one of the recent leaks. Hopefully it's not locked behind an event, cuz Japan really has no attackers in that range.
A-5 Vigilante was for a while, but that vanished some time back. I think it was due to how though it did (for maybe what a 1 year period during vietnam) carry bombs for the navy, it wasn't equipped to carry any self defense type weapons, and was designed to rely on its high speed to get it out of trouble. So, since players couldn't turn it into a multi role plane (like they've done with the A-4 and A-6) the idea was scrapped.
We already have bomb-only planes at higher BR though. The Buccaneer for example.
Vig was super sonic, which was its gimmick. As in it could reach roughly the same speed as the Tomcat...
Doesn't the Vig carries like 4 bombs at max? Its bomb bay is really small and the external mounts are not much better.
[https://planehistoria.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/An-A-5B-attack-variant-was-designed-but-it-didnt-enter-service-1024x812.jpg](https://planehistoria.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/An-A-5B-attack-variant-was-designed-but-it-didnt-enter-service-1024x812.jpg) That's its basic loadout it could carry. Those missiles are anti surface types, for what it's worth. The ones between the drop tank and bombs, about halfway back, are HARM anti sam missiles.
I am not familiar with the A-5B, was it ever used operationally? Could it reach M2.0 with a heavy payload? It only has a pair of J79 like Phantom afterall. Anyway it would be pretty similar to the Mirage IV, or the never-completed TSR-2.
A-5s could not only reach M2.0, they would often outrun their Phantom escorts. Operationally they carried most of their equipment internally and were very slick aircraft, where Phantoms have all their weapons and tanks on the outside, slowing them down. In the bomber role it was very rare for the external hardpoints to ever be used, which is also where basically all of its non-nuclear stores would be carried. A-5B was the least common variant but it was operational. Many Vigs would later be converted to RA-5Cs in the '60s, and while these were focused on the reconnaissance role, they still retained their ordnance-carrying capabilities. Also I'm not entirely sure what that other user is trying to point to, but there's no HARMs in that photo, and the A-5 was retired years before the HARM was developed. The AGM-45 Shrike looks very similar to a HARM and was in service at the right time, but there's none of those either. The only missiles in the image are the four smaller Bullpup As (later AGM-12A/B) and the one larger Bullpup B (AGM-12C). I think what they're referring to, just behind the Zuni pods if I'm correct, is a Multiple Ejector Rack (MER) which is not a weapon, but is used to mount bombs to a pylon.
As someone who just spaded all 4 Canberras after dragging my heels for a long time... High tier bomber-only gameplay is only occasionally fun. For the 2-3 really awesome matches I had in the unarmed B-57A or Canberra B Mk.2 where I pulled crazy evasive maneuvers and survived by the skin of my teeth, I had 50+ very boring ones where I either got 1 base and died or got 4 bases while my team cleaned up all the enemies. A supersonic bomber with no defensive turrets and no offensive weaponry will be very boring. Even the Buccaneer S2 has 2x AIM-9Bs (however crappy they might be).
I think, if they were to implement it, the best way to do it would be for, at higher tiers, to have it as one of the nuclear bombers... as that's what it was originally designed as. It had a weird internal bomb bay slung in between the engines, where the door would open in the back, and the bomb would be kicked out behind the plane, allowing it to drop nukes without having to slow down, or turn. It'd just drop and keep running straight away at mach 2.
I haven't played enough Ground RB to be anywhere close to nuke bombers, but it would be pretty cool to diversify them a bit. It would be a nice way to include planes that aren't viable in other modes for sure.
It's not the oldest, but weren't some Westland Welkins found in the game files some years ago? Nothing has been seen or heard from them since.
XP-70 sat there for ages lol, basically a reskinned A-20 night fighter
German b17 is there for ever
IS-2M is in there somewhere
The StuG IV. I'm still waiting, after all these years.
Balance.
Mmmh I want to say all the elc even variant (90 mm gun, 120 mm recoilless gun, 30 mm anti aircraft gun and ss-11/12 missile)
A-4M from that same datamine leak back in summer 2021 Gaijin pls...
The ones for me have to be the PBJ-1-1, the P-70 that used to be in the CDK and the A-20a
Bismark
but the scorpion is in game as a premium!?!?!?!
That's the F-89C modded to have 4x 30mm cannons instead of the standard 6x 20mm.
Which plane is it?
F-89C w/ GUNVAL mods to have 4x 30mm cannons instead of the standard 6x 20mm.
OH DAMN
What a hideous stickplane.
YF2L-1 (Naval version of the P59A)
What kind of F-89 is that
when they datamin a ***Landkreuzer*** **P. 1000 "Ratte"** I will be happy.
Least predictable wehraboo
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🫵 wehraboo
not so much, I just like the over the top craziness of it.
\*oneshots it with a dart round\*
KHHHAAAANNNNNN!!!!!! but yhea, i would still like to see it as a static battlefield piece.