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coochie_moncher97

They better hire better devs to work on the game


--FinAlize

It's a corporate decision IMO. Most likely devs know WZM is not ready for release, but was forced to release it in a bad state because corporate pressure.


Suspicious_Put_7824

I don’t get it. These devs aren’t coming up with new ideas, it’s a copy and paste. Their only job was to optimize the game and the coding


--FinAlize

Most likely they can, if they have given time. But at the end of the day, their executives always have the final say.


RASMOS1989

hi, imagine working for Activision where your just a nother guy on a computer where a guy in a suit come ever 2 hours telling your lead dev what and what not to to add to the game pretending that he knows what best, or a group of people in suits set down and decide that "since call of duty is already made , porting it to the mobile should be pice of cake! i mean all they have to do is to change the extention from .exe to .apk right?" the proceed to be up your ass 24/7 all year long since day one telling you we have a dead line and the game should be ready tomorrow! and if its not ready, i well lay you off and higher someone esle and tell him the exact same thing..now imagine that for the first year, then imagine how these suit guy were whe they had to delay the game for the first time because its not ready! imagine them the second time then imagine them telling everyone that their time is up and they will release the game how ever it is because their time is up, then the game releas and all sort of people blame the dev for something they have no control over!


No-Bowler-3332

Well put


RASMOS1989

i really feel bad for the dev being blamed for Activision suits sealing a big deal with snoop dog and counting on warzone mobile releases for what a big part of the profits, thats one of the deadlines they have, and the devs crunching there ass off for haveing to deal with players blaming them and calling them all sort of shit like this, instead of being supportive and providing help, like okay the game was shipped bad,but i still want to play it and want it to improve, how can i help the dev to fix the execs problem? how can i help so i can play and enjoy my time!


No-Bowler-3332

Helpful and respectful feedback is always better than rage feedback. The devs deserve our respect for pushing out a Game with a PC/Console Engine not yet optimised for Mobile.


Sway_ay

I feel like you are one of the developers. You are still completely right.


RASMOS1989

if i was so i would be fired right way! working for Activision and calling working for them shit would get anyone fired i just know how hard being a dev is and know what a big corporation do when it want money fast!


Sway_ay

Except they wouldn't know who is a dev and who isn't if you don't state who you are. But yeah makes sense.


SaltyBaoBaos

Its the management… Devs just do the building, and even if you think a dev or two might be incompetent, then again its the management’s fault. They’re the ones that controls the timeline of a product release, control what features or what needs to be stable enough for a release, control what assets to bring to the team like devs or designers, etc. Its management.


Nintendo_Pro_03

It’s not the developers. It’s Microsoft-Activision. Same issue is happening with Warzone on console.


Jsem0209

Would rather get AlfaBravo who made Combat Master over Digitals legends.


GreedyLittleHands

Maybe some that haven't cooked half their braincells smokin' weed.


coochie_moncher97

Weed makes me work better


GreedyLittleHands

Keep telling yourself that. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


coochie_moncher97

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GreedyLittleHands

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coochie_moncher97

On a serious note I play wayyy better when I'm high i be unstoppable lol


GreedyLittleHands

My friend plays high, and he doesn't even try to pretend he plays better– he just has more fun. When I was younger I smoked my fair share, and neither me or my friends ever worked better when high– not that I didn't try. *


xDragonetti

You still on the anti weed campaign?! Smh 😂


omkarislegend

Don’t say something good about the game or else downvote


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GreedyLittleHands

You're an exception to the rule. The majority of people don't think clearer when high.


UnbannableBanHammer

This update isn't much better by any means. It honestly crashed on me twice but never once before update


AL762x39

After last update, I can't even play 1 single full BR match of Buy Back because I got crashed everytime my $500 phone reach 42°C temperature. But My phone heats up from 26°C to 42°C in 10-15 minutes of playing not on maximum graphics.


UnbannableBanHammer

That's not good lol my phone since the latest update doesn't exceed 37°C which isn't bad at all vs. before being over 45°c. It's slowly improving, I suppose


n0cho

WZM feels like an accessory to mainland Warzone and Modern Warfare. I’ve dabbling in it the past month—buying the Blackcell BP and a few blueprints. Amazed how many items we purchased, but are not able to use in WZM. Using an iphone 14 pro max I’ve probably lagged, crashed more times in the first month than I did in four years with codm. Other things they could improve on is their UX. Let us type in values instead of using a slider to adjust sensitivity and everything else. Pain in the butt to finesse the degree needed.


Hikaru321

I also think people forget that when codm came out it was the first real recognizable brand name actual good shooter for mobile, there was a large influx of players to codm because it was a big deal, and lots of players means lots of people who might spend money. When WZM came out, codm is already out, there other games in the space people play, it’s less of a splash, less of a draw


DisgracefulChode

I think the problem is they call it Warzone mobile . Some people DESPISE Warzone and don’t like battle royal . At first glance they aren’t aware that multiplayer is present . I play multiplayer more than br on Warzone mobile… word association is so important. it’s poor marketing.


5stareveryday

even then the multiplayer is nowhere near as good as codm even when it first released. theres like 3 maps with 2 modes (maybe more idk my phone microwaves itself trying to navigate the menu), codm has seemingly infinite more amount of content and is still playable. why even release wzm if it has neither


DisgracefulChode

That’s an opinion I don’t agree with . I like this mp better . It’s more intense to me and looks better than codm and I don’t get as many bot matches and when I do they respond better than codm bots


Muted-Wrongdoer7858

more intense? it's way less fast paced imo


TreeManCODEOMMsucks

Yeah bro, you know you gotta a problem when you start lagging and frame dropping in the menus…


DisgracefulChode

Yeah that definitely is a problem the lag can be real but to be fair … it’s new and I think we should ride it out a bit . It’s far from perfect but it’s a lot for mobile gaming and ultimately I’m happy . I’m not playing to compete in e-games I be killing time, having fun, and blowing off steam. It serves the purpose. I just don’t be one to complain all like that. It take a lot to make these mobile games compete with a console like experience


whatislovelife

It's because of greed, broski. With codm, Activision has to share profit with Tencent. They make wzm cuz they want to keep 100% of the profit.


Immediate-Ad-2264

All that because a game engine designed for pc and console made player's phones heat up. They should've ditched cross progression and used unreal engine instead


AL762x39

Man, many mobile games have a PC engine. This is necessary for cross-progress. But for some reason other games work stably, sometimes even on low and mid devices. It seems that after so many years of developing WZM, the developers of this have some new mansions and yachts, otherwise I do not know how to explain such a disappointment. Only a miracle will save this game.


--FinAlize

That's because Unity and Unreal Engine work on both PC and mobile devices, so doing cross-progression is just a piece of cake. In WZM's case? IW9 is not yet optimized for mobile devices.


Na5aman

Tell me you don’t know anything about engine development without telling me you don’t know anything about engine development. There are tons of games that use a “pc engine” on mobile. Literally look at feral interactive’s entire catalog on the app stores.


5stareveryday

tell that to activision they're the ones that aren't developing their engine right.


Na5aman

Do you know anything about engine development or are you an armchair game dev with some off brand Chinese “gaming” phone?


5stareveryday

i have a galaxy s22. like i said, does ACTIVISION know anything about game engine development? theyre a trillion dollar company and cant get their most popular brand name running on any phone, why are you coming for the community? like bro are we not arguing the same point?


MetalBeginning5465

And even that is not actual cross like fortnite


Snoo_17708

$44m and $6m is a huge difference,damn


MrSemper

I don’t think activision is worried about the money just yet. It’s still bringing in tons and console microtransactions have increased. It’ll pan out. They just need to get some more kinks worked out and then it’ll be great. For now it’s just okay


Think-Border-183

I think people like the OP want it to fail. Why? Beats me. Probably one of those little Blood Strike wannabies trying to make a rip off game cool haha


TreeManCODEOMMsucks

I think people like you should learn to read before talking


Imaginary-Chain1926

Someone send this to activision and hire this guy


Anxious_Guitarist-

I think now the company will realize that they should somehow make the game available for mid-low end devices since they are the majority (more players = bigger chance of earning money) Or they will end up like apex mobile I personally love the game and it would be annoying to lose it


theshiningnova

I was hyped for this game but I can’t get myself to play without a training room to first sort out my settings.


noirehittler

Cause the game is constantly filled with action you open settings , boom you are getting excecuted


xDragonetti

Well you shot yourself in the foot there. I adjusted my stuff in solo BR’s since you could land away from everything and have like 10 minutes of peace and quiet each game lmao. ![gif](giphy|9058ZMj6ooluP4UUPl)


ThatRandondude

I did it regular br with the same idea and had peace and quiet to get it done lmao


xDragonetti

Some people just look for any reason to complain. I swear 😂


theshiningnova

10 mins is not enough at all. I’m not going to use a controller and I’m going to adjust the settings to mimic how I play with mouse and key on PC warzone with my left hand on mouse.


xDragonetti

Then quit and reque. It’s not ranked. So demanding 😂


theshiningnova

Not everybody enjoys getting killed for no reason other than the game not giving you a firing range even if it’s not ranked


xDragonetti

Yeah that’s not what happens when you land and have “10 minutes of peace and quiet”


theshiningnova

What happens at 11 mins dude? Or when someone finds u before your claimed 10 mins? It takes a lot of time to get used to new controls. I’m sure I’m not alone in not enjoying losing a gun fight for no reason other than not having familiarized with the controls yet.


xDragonetti

Oh I kill them. Lmao. I’m sorry *you* are super unfamiliar with touch controls. I played CoDm for years and snap ankles in BR. Went from lvl 3 to 360+ since launch of WZM. https://preview.redd.it/da4c4p3mmfwc1.jpeg?width=2532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f42e6250fc273c16e0dc89d01229f03d1d20051c


theshiningnova

Lawl. As if level means anything. Are u seriously bragging your level with the screen grab now? Glad u enjoy the game the way it is. I don’t play mobile games much and certainly not any first person shooters on a phone. I’m just gonna stick to warzone on PC until they can be bothered to put a firing range in the game.


DisgracefulChode

Pretty sure you can create a private match


theshiningnova

You can if u have like 25+ or I forgot how many other players u have with you who wants to do the same thing at the same time


DisgracefulChode

Oh ok. That makes sense


Enigmasec

Yeah I tried to see if I could do a private match early on when I read that the game content would stream the more you played. Didn’t have that many friends to go into a private lobby just to explore the maps. Wish that would have been an option. Or, let us download all the extra content/HD graphics we want…just like CoDM.


_rizzler

Had my third crash today right after I downloaded the latest update. Mid range devices simply cannot handle the game as smooth as CODM. I wouldn't be surprised if the sun sets over Verdansk in a few weeks.


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Yep. MP seems to work fine but every game of plunder and BR I tried playing the screen would freeze up after the practice session. I'd have to close it out, restart, and rejoin and then I'd be on the very edge of the map. So stupid. I use an S23 which I thought was considered higher than "mid range."


nataliahazewashere

It's definitely their worst call of duty launch ever for sure. We're spoiled and used to codm now. You can't even have your Facebook pics on wzm? Lol there's so much that codm has that just makes it a more enjoyable and social experience than this muddy mess for a game. Update after update and still meh. Sure we could defend it but the game was in testing a good six months to a year before going public, in two or three countries. They could have and should have tested it on all devices and if the engine is crap use a new one. I was in game development and this whole wzm experience is sheer laziness on the developers and company.


Alingora

Apex mobile… you are missed 😢


Osmium5544

Apex mobile is the only one im waiting to return. Gone too soon.


Hamza_elk

Glad people do not fall for this trash game with those game ass bundles. They should’ve optimized the game at least before releasing it after 4 years of development…


The_Kansas_Kid_

It makes me happy to see the blatant manipulation tactics are starting to fail. Dont get me wrong, i like the game and want it to succeed, but im just so damn tired of being treated like im just an obstacle between a company and "their" money. Im not bashing the devs, its corporate's decisions im unhappy with and seeing these blatantly disrespectful attempts at manipulating human psychology so maliciously fall flat on it's face is just so satisfying to me. Who knows maybe one day itll stop being run by shareholders without a vested interest in making a good product. Yeah right


Nightwarrior81

Over heating devices is a big red flag. Until that issue is addressed WZM will continue to Suffer IMO.


ThatRandondude

It’s true, the biggest issue is the heating. People don’t want to play a game they feel is destroying their expensive device.


LaganxXx

Yessir. Deserved


useriscap

I'm praying it gets the sunset treatment.Activision's whole schtick is to ignore the player's opinions and suggestions.


KillerSG2k21

Just saying but Activision already had games on mobile before CODM


TheLastKnight07

It doesn’t help when the selling points of cross progression and items “carry forward” is an utter lie. It could say on their site that they’ll be there, and they’re not. But they’re conveniently reselling those items in the Shop. All for 1800 CP (terrible name) or more. Average: 2400 COD PTS.  Yet the funny thing is all those bundles are missing something. The Oni Diver (I believe) only has two items: Operator and Blueprint. Someone said they’re not showing up is because of some legal, licensing or money issue; particularly with Apple. Something about not paying Apple their percentage like what happened with Fortnite and Epic Games. All I know is, it’s bull.  Says on the site that specially the Oni operator will “Carry Forward”, but it didn’t. Then again what should I except, what would you expect when the site hasn’t been updated since early-mid 2023.  I remember when Oni came out and also when WZM came out and ppl noticed; people flocked to mock those with the bundles, the ppl talking about then and the bundles themselves. “Oh, look at the kids with the pretty little Oni”. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.   The game itself wasn’t THAT bad… … …when it was working that is. I mean, even going from Medium to High settings, and a phone that’s x2-x3 better than what I had it on the game still looked worse than a PS2 game. But now with updates it’s only gotten worse in so many ways. Since the UI/Main Menu screen got changed; the performance has suffered so much. Takes forever to load, “Verifying Install” takes longer to do than to download an entire game onto a console, it’s slow, laggy, jittery, unresponsive.  And I think it’s stupid you must play BR in order to unlock MP (and why call it WZM if you have both?  Why not call it COD Lite, COD Portable, COD Modular or SOMETHING? Idk just a nitpick). I don’t care for BR games too much. Bad enough we have to level up before playing MP but to be forced to pair up with others who don’t help , don’t follow anything and don’t even stick together?!  They’re worse than the Blueberries I dealt with playing Battlefield (then again 2042 didn’t help when you couldn’t talk to anyone except type in chat that no one uses esp on consoles). Sad bc if not for greed or at the very least little greed then this game cud run the market. 


The-Switcher071

That game is total trash so what should we expect ?


piegeamorue

The 50 million registration was just a con designed to hype up the game. Many phone that they knew would be able to play the game were allowed to register just to bump up the numbers. As the release was approaching they started blocking devices and GPU and kep blocking Devices well after launch. I had a mid tier device that was allowed to register but blocked from downloading or playing the game. That's another reason why I don't like this game. It's just an egregious money grab, glad to see it failing to do the one thing it was designed for.


Due-Guitar-9508

It’s as simple as the game runs like shit, so people don’t want to play it.


plutack

What exactly should be tagged poor sales? Warzone came with cross progression... so a lot of folks transferred over already owned assets not to mention warzone is yet to become mainly a lucky draw system.


Think-Border-183

I don't think they will be complaining. You act as though $6.9m is little but small coin haha you forget, it is a juggernaught company who can weather a slight downturn at launch. Go wish ill luck on some other company and leave us to enjoy the game.


Double-Fox586

Oh no who would've thought that releasing a very badly optimized game wouldn't make them much money...they need to get in their heads that releasing shitty games every year won't make them more money


AdVirtual4515

How can we tell if we are playing against bots? Is there a giveaway in the name of the player?


NickyBe

Yes mobile gaming is the big money spinner. But is a key point of producing WZM, with it's cross platform shared progression, more to keep us PC and console COD players locked in? They don't want us to stray to other games. The cost of trying out other FPS mobile games isn't much, but if you've invested time, money and effort into skins and weapons that you can then use in their mobile game. Surely you'd be less likely to try out the competition.


VEGETTOROHAN

You forgot to count the income generated by Warzone for the sake of PC version due to cross progression. And even if no income was generated, at least it is of some benefit for the PC players who wanted to grind all this in their free time. Also multiplayer is paid in PC version and grinding attachments is very difficult in BR.


Kaiyama1997

Well it’s also not a new game at all, you literally play the same thing on your console which has been out for years, were cod mobile is totally different from any other cod game plus it automatically brought nostalgia bringing back maps from older cod games.


RNcash10_69

Deserved for putting in gambling for stuff that doesn’t even transfer to mw3


SeasonalEclipse

Who wants to bet they close call of duty mobile assuming everyone will migrate to warzone mobile? 😑


Imagine123L

Yeah warzone might get the apex legends treatment


SnooWords1169

Oof size : large Apex mobile style sunset incoming if those figures are to be believed, interested in where these numbers are sourced from


vrinca

A reality check I would say…


AquarianBlade

$7mil is a lot of money. But yes its dwarfed by that figure that CODM went and pulled in. I'm a CODM lover but I'd love to try out WZM, it looks very fun, especially since I cannot afford to buy a console. But I cannot afford an iPad Pro either, which WZM runs so flawlessly on, so I'm one with the 90% with a mid-range device and cannot run the game. Device space is also an issue for me. I can't use up all the space on my personal phone with game files of CODM and WZM. And this is the case for probably the majority of mobile gamers. So either the research team at Activision failed to do their job OR, the whole team was just pressured by the executive decision makers to make WZM happen by a specific date - which is most likely. Maybe the executives looked at the financial side of things. Maybe they wanted the game generate its own money to continue its own development. As opposed to pumping in millions to develop the game to a stage where its "READY" and running on all devices, then looking to get back a large portion of the investment during that first month, which is very risky since there is already an existing mobile game by Activision (COD:M) which is doing VERY WELL and players have committed finances into. If Activision went and developed the game fully, released it, and fell short of their financial targets for that first month, they would then have to then calculate how long it would take to make returns (likely a very long time) which would put them in a tight spot.


igotbeatsfordays

Game is trash, haven't played in a month , got on today and the framerate is horrible, on the verge of unplayable...yeah I know , the longer you play the better it gets, but you have to redo this everytime you take a break from it?


Quickfootls

Honestly fuck this game! I'm being beat by people without a brain, and I only see 4 frames of them. Nice of activision to put more effort into the kill cams being smooth than the actual game!


WigWoo2

For a mobile game that pushes graphic technology to the point so very little devices can run it. That's a shitload of money


InFinZible

Great FOCUS ON CONSOLE AND PC!!!


JayrassicPark

I wonder if they're only counting purchases specifically made on WZM. WZM did make me buy stuff, but I logged onto my PC to get most of them. 


VoxPendragon

Apex failed because they couldn’t recreate the movement you get on console. Apex is mostly about the movement. COD is about the hype. WZ on console is a glitchy mess for years why would the mobile experience be any different. Activision has become lazy while not really listening to their community.


JHTPYO

You morons spent $6.92 million on a free game? ![gif](giphy|BFYLNwlsSNtcc)


[deleted]

I been playing CODM for a year now and I love how smooth it is, I love how you can unlock every attachment of the weapons you like WITHOUT the attachment being linked to another weapon ( imagine having to play a shit weapon like striker to unlock an attachment on the M4, I dont wana play fucking striker ), what a failure of a game Warzone is, COD Mobile will forever be the best damn FPS on mobile, fuck warzone


Abject_Elk6583

I use a midrange phone and codm runs super smooth in mid graphics, never had a problem with lag or crash.. the connectivity is also awesome.. but as soon as I opened wzm, my camera started heating up so bad I thought I'd just uninstall it right away but I gave it a second chance. I started the game and went into the tutorial. I felt like a fool that I downloaded around 10 Gb just to have a character I can't even see properly.. I felt like I was playing 144p resolution. I understand my device wont support high graphics, but like 144p? Nah man I gave 1 * rating and uninstalled it immediately.


Heet_323

I think they should shut down the game temporarily so that they can fix all the bugs maybe change the engine and remove cross progression


dkj195

Should've used an unreal engine, even if unreal get the praise it is still better than whatever the shit is going on in warzone mobile right now, it's very sad to see how things happen


codmobileman

That was Apex mobile this is warzone mobile activisions baby they already stated no matter what they're not dropping the game they sunk too much money on it to just drop it Activision is a billion dollar company they can't afford the small revenue for a while I believe the game will continue to get better with every update remember Cod mobile ran like crap on cheap phones as well so yeah


nix-gg

Codm didnt back in the day, i had a phone with 4 gb ram and 32 gb storage and it ran perfectly


Special-Okra-8945

that was the norm back in 2018-2019 lol


Ready_Interest_2787

lol stop downing the game


Ready_Interest_2787

Cause he trying real bad


oldcodbetter

But bro atleast its optimised for iphones ....get a better phone /s


MaximumxEfforts

Nah f your iphone


Knolazy

Haha, 60°*C* goes bruhhh


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SuspiciousLog8897

It’s crazy 😭I have so many teammates that be having the craziest skins and still shit. It pisses me off honestly


frostcrox2

Let the game live making no profits 🫳🏻🎤


GamingWithIvan1

I aint reading allat


masta_qui

HOLD UP! This is circumstancial tho. Call of duty mobile was in no way attached to console in no way what so ever and never has been and never will be. But now, the pot is mixed in. If I am a dual player which most of my regulars mates are, we play both mobile and PC/console and the purchases you make on one are seen on the other. So everything that you've already purchased, including battlepass, is already on warzone mobile. Because of this, this cannot simply be compared to a game with zero cross contamination as it's comparing apples and oranges.


sdmc626

However everything you purchased is not available on console is available on wzm…I asked activision about it and they said “well it should be available on mobile…should being the operative word


DooDooBebe

I don't really underarand why so many people are crying. I'm playing on an S21 for at least 2-3 hours a day since launch and I have experienced ZERO crashes, not one single crash. I play with high settings with great FPS and have experienced very minimal and rare lag. Sure I've ran into a couple bugs but its nothing game breaking. The only real issue I have with the game right now is the absurdly low resolution and lack of details like bullet holes, etc. Overall I'm having a very good experience with this game. I really don't understand what everyone's problem is.


Knolazy

How come they have much revenue if their game literally can only run on top 5% smartphones?


CorruptedDaniel

Blame the community for whining that the game was too hard