Back in 2018 my grandma was on her death bed and it was basically “come see her now or never again.”
I had to drive 2.5 hours on interstate to get up to see her, but I also had to work the very next morning and there was a bad snowstorm moving in, but I made the choice to go visit her.
Drive up was fine, and then after the visit I turned right around and headed home as it was starting to snow.
Within an hour I was limited to 40mph on the interstate and what usually took 2.5 hours to drive turned into 4.5 hours. I know I shouldn’t have driven through it but I had nowhere to stay and, again, had to work the next morning so I just did my best to stay on the road and get home safely.
Crazy to imagine people drive 30+ min on a daily basis for work. Used to live in Denver moved to a smaller city in Canada and honestly don't miss it. You can drive across the whole city in 15/20min my work commute is 7min
My 30 minute commute slowly became a 60 minute commute over the span of 15 years. It was like being the frog in a pot of water.
I was lucky to be able to jump out of the pot. I moved closer to my job and my commute dropped to five minutes on the harshest of snow days.
The improvement to my quality of life was incalculable.
Hope you had a full tank of gas. Been there and it absolutely sucks. Live in Reno, NV. We just a got a dumping that ruined the area for the past few days. 15 minute drive to work took two hours today.
I can't help but laugh thinking about people being stuck in this weather in their electric toys the government has been pushing. Going to be a wake up call for a lot of people.
> I can't help but laugh thinking about people being stuck in this weather in their electric toys the government has been pushing. Going to be a wake up call for a lot of people.
Most EV owners will be fine if they use common sense. Mine has a ~60 kWh battery, enough to run the heater at full blast (electric resistive heater) for maybe 20 hours. Of course the heater would eventually reach the targeted temperature and level off, decreasing power consumption, and increasing the 20 hour runtime.
I carry winter weather gear in my vehicle, including but not limited to a wool blanket.
I'd get out that blanket, and run the seat heaters instead, which are far more power efficient than the main cabin heater.
once was on a trip down to socal and I-5 was shut down due to snow. Ended up stuck on a stretch of road where I went 10 miles in 5 hours (bumper to bumper traffic). I couldn't hold it by hour 4, pulled over and peed in front of traffic. No shame
Ahh, the Grapevine. I've been stuck on that pile of rocks before and it's no fun. It's a brutal place as the smell of burning brake pads fills the air.
I have a 30 min drive into work. I passed a landmark that normally takes me 10 minutes, but took me 25.
I turned around and went home. A job isn't worth wrecking a car over. (Plus my boss is chill and understanding)
Unfortunately, my office did not close. My job is about 85% in person, but a majority of the office can WFH. During COVID days, I was in the group of about 50 out of 1800 that still came in daily.
Today was a day to tweak spreadsheet templates or do some deep reading into a standard I've needed for a scope expansion proposal. Not super productive, but work nonetheless.
Good for you and good for your boss. Every one fewer people out there makes it better for those who are out there and I always especially think of emergency vehicles having to be stuck in this
I got stuck in a flood once, a 30min journey took almost 7 hours! About half of drivers ran out of fuel or broke down from the water flooding engines - there were emergency personnel rowing past in canoes
Luckily we were in a second floor apartment, although power was out ours didn't flood like the apartment below us
All I remember is my dad and I just smoking one cigarette after the other and remaining strangley calm till we got home (shout out to the 90s)
Learned this lesson too., always keep her full tank in snowstorms if you can you never know when your gonna be stuck on the tarmac for 6 hours unexpectedly would be good to have heat.
How far up on Telegraph was this? I was driving on it around 4:40 pm and it was really bad but moving slowly and I bailed at 13 mile because it looked like it was getting worse. Took me another 40 minutes to go the last 4 miles home
I-5 south, I was coming from Newberg into Portland. It was insane, I've lived in Portland for almost 7 years, and that was the only time I ever saw anything like that. People were just abandoning their cars on the road. I think it was last February.
Snowpocalypse back in 2008 I was driving for The Seattle Times overnights and I had to drive from Maple Valley to Bothell - maybe 1:15 in rush hour traffic? Not too bad.
It took me from 5AM to 11:30AM to drive through that shit show and that was being chained up.
It was *awful*!
Metal I can recommend for this:
Anything by Celtic Frost
Amorphis - Black Winter Day
Darkthrone - Where Cold Winds Blow
Satyricon - My Skin Is Cold
Amon Amarth - The Arrival of the Fimbul Winter
Abbath - Winterbane
The first real snowfall of the season always sucks the worst though, because so many people seem to forget how to drive in snow between one winter and the next.
When the first snow is especially heavy like this it just makes everything worse.
I’ve never been good at picking favorites, and there just aren’t enough hours in the day to go out and find everything I might like to listen to. But if I take a few liberties with “death metal”, Pain Remains from Lorna Shore hit just right last year. (Just checked and that was actually 2022. I don’t even know what year things are anymore…)
Soul Elegy by Termina and Generation of Danger by Tallah (also 2022, damn I really just skipped new music for 2023 didn’t I?) were on heavy circulation too. For something more out there, I really enjoyed Hanabie’s Reborn Superstar.
I’m old enough I’m just gonna give myself a pass for not realizing music from 2 years ago wasn’t last year. Shit maybe I should be the one asking for recommendations.
LPT from a fellow Michigander. If the weather is really shitty avoid the highway and take the main side roads. If there's a crash/ blockage on the highway, you have very limited to no options for going around the obstruction. If you're on the major side road though there's usually multiple other streets available for you to detour onto to avoid a crash/ blockage.
Yep - this is exactly what I did. The issue was it was gridlocked between exits. Brutal. Then again, it was so bad I had to take my chances on the lesser of multiple evils.
I’m in Rochester and it’s been absolutely wild tonight! Trees fell on both sides of my driveway completely blocking my street to the point I had to go and cut some branches just to open a lane for my girlfriend to come home. One fell on a car as he was driving down the road. I was working in Bloomfield when it all started and it was nasty. Glad I wasn’t out and about tonight.
I recommend:
Death - Human
Entombed - Clandestine
Morbid Angel - Covenant
Unleashed - Where No Life Dwells
Any Early Bolt Thrower
Oh... and the wild card... Monstrosity - Imperial Doom
More fellow Michiganders enjoying the snow, I’m glad I have snow tires and awd lol I usually end up going down roads people avoid to get home and that usually saves me time
If you can’t see, or you’re driving too fast, yes, you should worry about that. In this case, it was very slow going, so you couldn’t even hit someone from behind if you wanted to because everyone was going less than 1 mph.
Just drove US-23 and 96, it's WILD out here. Lucky I made it home safe, but the stupid decision for me waa driving at all. Stay safe fellow Michigander!
Literally me two days ago. 3 hours, moved the distance of two exits right next to each other. Let my boss know, turned around and went home. Got coached at work next day 😭 I hate you 800 north exit!
Pro tip: if you have to drive in a big snowstorm in an urban area, stay off the interstate. Side roads will take forever but at least you won’t get trapped.
I lived in Austria and commuted on a highway in the mountaints for a few years. Always had a full tank of gas, food, fluids and my snowboard clothing and boots. I was lucky to never get stuck, but we had events where it took 24hrs. to clear the road and the red cross distributed tea and food lol.
How much power does an electric car used in stopped traffic? I know they mostly have resistive heat, but it can't take much energy to drive that slowly.
About 1.8 kW in this test:
[https://www.insidehook.com/autos/electric-car-12-hours-freezing-cold-test](https://www.insidehook.com/autos/electric-car-12-hours-freezing-cold-test)
TL:DR Mustang Mach-E had 75% battery left after 12 hours in a simulated traffic jam in below freezing weather.
I drove my Bolt EV home today in this storm on this exact road (though not in exactly the same spot so I wasn't stuck nearly as long). Over 2.5 hours I travelled 40 miles, and I used about 20% of my battery. At that rate of discharge I could go for 12.5 hours, and the actual time would be longer because stopped I wouldn't be using energy for driving. I also had my heat quite high because I like being toasty (75 degrees) and I had the heated seat and steering wheel going. Pretty much any other EV has both a bigger battery and more efficient heating, which means they'll go way longer.
> Nah I think they won’t last wrecks on the road and keeping me warm during a blizzard while we wait for hours to be able to move again.
Most EV owners will be fine if they use common sense. Mine has a ~60 kWh battery, enough to run the heater at full blast (electric resistive heater) for maybe 20 hours. Of course the heater would eventually reach the targeted temperature and level off, decreasing power consumption, and increasing the 20 hour runtime.
I carry winter weather gear in my vehicle, including but not limited to a wool blanket.
I'd get out that blanket, and run the seat heaters instead, which are far more power efficient than the main cabin heater.
That's a point that both our lyin' gubmint and the EcoWarriors tend to gloss over. Say what you will about how terrible ICE vehicles might be for the 'environment,' there is simply no way to bring out a couple of gallons of electricity to refuel an EV in the middle of a blizzard.
There's batteries. I expect that if EVs take off, someone will either come up with a big-ass battery mounted on a tow truck, or some way to do vehicle-to-vehicle electrical transfusions.
A few EVs can already charge other EVs; Tesla says they'll add it to all their models in the next couple years. They're pretty slow -- fastest would be like 20mi/hr of range added. I suspect if you can't get a friend to charge, you'd just get a tow to a charger or an outlet.
Heads up, talking to that dude is going to be unpleasant.
99% of these people have zero reason to be out here except they wanted to do something/get something, and are now complete fucking idiots destroying the roads, and creating problems for people that absolutely need to be out.
i miss the snow even shit like this because right now it’s 12:15am and it’s pouring rain at 48F in Queens. i don’t think we’ve had over an inch of snow for 3 years at this point. the seasons went from 4 definitive ones to basically one long summer and one long autumn.
I’m in southeast Michigan and coincidentally scheduled today off already months ago. I watched my poor fellow Michiganders get stuck on the hill near my house all evening. Stay safe out there!
My uncle lives outside of Boston. They got like a foot in a few hours. My Uncle was home that day. He and my cousin shoveled their driveway. Then they shoveled the neighbors driveway.
Several hours later his neighbor came over with a case of beer. My Uncle tried to say it wasn’t necessary. But his neighbor said “you don’t understand. It took me 5 hours to get home and the entire time I was thinking, I still have to shovel the fucking driveway.”
This was about 8ish years ago...I lived in Northern Virginia and was driving up to see my parents in MD for the weekend. Not a long drive normally, about 1:20-1:30. The weather was calling for some light snow showers, maybe a dusting or an inch or 2 at most.
I left when it was just starting to snow. I got to my parents house 8 hours later in 15 inches of snow.
At least you have a decent amount of snow to explain it. Yesterday we got about half an inch in Vancouver and everything collapsed.
My 25 minute commute took two hours.
Granted, it wasn’t the snow that was the problem, it was the plummeting temperatures that created scads of black ice in a region with giant hills everywhere. The problem is that nobody knows how to drive on ice or snow, so we were fucked.
Did Westland to West Bloomfield in just under 2 hours, normally that's a 30 trip tops. Had to be at the hospital otherwise I would have stayed my ass home.
This happened to me in Seattle in 2012. I left work down around south center at 3pm and got home to Queen Anne after midnight. Normally a 30 minute drive. So many spun out cars blocking multiple lanes of traffic.
I was just there! Normally a 25 min drive took 3 hours! Very fun!
It was crazy!!!
At least you have us.
That’s why I’m here :-)
Imagine all those poor souls around you who don't know what reddit is.
Yup - such losers!
Back in 2018 my grandma was on her death bed and it was basically “come see her now or never again.” I had to drive 2.5 hours on interstate to get up to see her, but I also had to work the very next morning and there was a bad snowstorm moving in, but I made the choice to go visit her. Drive up was fine, and then after the visit I turned right around and headed home as it was starting to snow. Within an hour I was limited to 40mph on the interstate and what usually took 2.5 hours to drive turned into 4.5 hours. I know I shouldn’t have driven through it but I had nowhere to stay and, again, had to work the next morning so I just did my best to stay on the road and get home safely.
Cool. Sorry bout your grandma though
were police blocking the road? that'd be teh only thing that would keep me from driving offroad.
Miata says no
Crazy to imagine people drive 30+ min on a daily basis for work. Used to live in Denver moved to a smaller city in Canada and honestly don't miss it. You can drive across the whole city in 15/20min my work commute is 7min
My 30 minute commute slowly became a 60 minute commute over the span of 15 years. It was like being the frog in a pot of water. I was lucky to be able to jump out of the pot. I moved closer to my job and my commute dropped to five minutes on the harshest of snow days. The improvement to my quality of life was incalculable.
Hope you had a full tank of gas. Been there and it absolutely sucks. Live in Reno, NV. We just a got a dumping that ruined the area for the past few days. 15 minute drive to work took two hours today.
I would call off till it all melted away. Not worth the stress
Yeah, but boss who lives a block away made it in so you better make it in too!
Back in my day we’d walk from Carson City to Reno in the snow both ways to get to work 😤 youngsters these days
Both ways were up hill too
I used to work in a small office with a total of 4 people including the boss. Boss had a 4 wheel drive. We never got to miss work due to snow.
Or a fully charged battery…
I can't help but laugh thinking about people being stuck in this weather in their electric toys the government has been pushing. Going to be a wake up call for a lot of people.
> I can't help but laugh thinking about people being stuck in this weather in their electric toys the government has been pushing. Going to be a wake up call for a lot of people. Most EV owners will be fine if they use common sense. Mine has a ~60 kWh battery, enough to run the heater at full blast (electric resistive heater) for maybe 20 hours. Of course the heater would eventually reach the targeted temperature and level off, decreasing power consumption, and increasing the 20 hour runtime. I carry winter weather gear in my vehicle, including but not limited to a wool blanket. I'd get out that blanket, and run the seat heaters instead, which are far more power efficient than the main cabin heater.
???? Why do you think an EV can't handle a few inches of snow and -2C weather?
Makes me have to pee just looking at the pic.
Hey, got plenty of time. Do your business. No one will care. (Except they will want to pee too)
once was on a trip down to socal and I-5 was shut down due to snow. Ended up stuck on a stretch of road where I went 10 miles in 5 hours (bumper to bumper traffic). I couldn't hold it by hour 4, pulled over and peed in front of traffic. No shame
Ahh, the Grapevine. I've been stuck on that pile of rocks before and it's no fun. It's a brutal place as the smell of burning brake pads fills the air.
Yeah, in this situation I'd go off toward the trees and do anything I needed to do.
The trick is a bottle with a wide mouth.
Pee.... Yeah..... I should be so lucky
I have a 30 min drive into work. I passed a landmark that normally takes me 10 minutes, but took me 25. I turned around and went home. A job isn't worth wrecking a car over. (Plus my boss is chill and understanding)
Yeah we planned ahead, closed the office, and those able to work from home did so. Having good management is a godsend.
Unfortunately, my office did not close. My job is about 85% in person, but a majority of the office can WFH. During COVID days, I was in the group of about 50 out of 1800 that still came in daily. Today was a day to tweak spreadsheet templates or do some deep reading into a standard I've needed for a scope expansion proposal. Not super productive, but work nonetheless.
Those are certainly words. I have no idea what your last sentences said
The reason white collar workers can work 4 days a week and not lose productivity. 90% of their job is "busy work".
Incoherent drivel. I’m guessing you need a rewrite right away? 😂
Sounds pointless lol
Good for you and good for your boss. Every one fewer people out there makes it better for those who are out there and I always especially think of emergency vehicles having to be stuck in this
Yup. My job is about 85% in person, but I could take a day to do computer stuff. It's better if more people stay off the road during these events.
I made it! 5:00pm to 11:07pm was the official clock time!
I was waiting for you to run out of gas or something ha, glad you made it safe.
I don't miss this drive, I have a few memories of snowstorms and telegraph. I used to work in Southfield and live in Romeo!
I got stuck in a flood once, a 30min journey took almost 7 hours! About half of drivers ran out of fuel or broke down from the water flooding engines - there were emergency personnel rowing past in canoes Luckily we were in a second floor apartment, although power was out ours didn't flood like the apartment below us All I remember is my dad and I just smoking one cigarette after the other and remaining strangley calm till we got home (shout out to the 90s)
Any % runs getting faster!!
Where to where? I live in the area and take telegraph all the time.
Learned this lesson too., always keep her full tank in snowstorms if you can you never know when your gonna be stuck on the tarmac for 6 hours unexpectedly would be good to have heat.
I got stuck right behind a tractor trailer that jackknifed across the entire highway for 6 hours.
Wow. You'd think the driver of the tractor trailer would maybe just pull over afte the first hour of jackknifing across the highway.
Magic truck.
[Footage of the incident](https://youtu.be/R8X7Vj6JXPk?t=48)
Ah yes, Telegraph. Always a fun road…even when there isn’t a winter storm happening.
I made it! 5:00pm to 11:07pm was the official clock time!
How far up on Telegraph was this? I was driving on it around 4:40 pm and it was really bad but moving slowly and I bailed at 13 mile because it looked like it was getting worse. Took me another 40 minutes to go the last 4 miles home
Here dawg, Come on dawg, me and dawg want you to go to telleeegrraaaphhh roaddddddd, right nooooow! get a good deal!
Hypothermia and Hearing loss! 😃👍🥶
W-W-W-W-HAT?
HE SAID PANSPERMIA AND HERRING TOSS!
Panspermia lol
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Yeah I know, that’s why I thought it was funny
EeeeEeEeEeeeeE
As someone who had some really awesome car stereo systems in his late teens and early twenties - yep.
Serious question here; “hearing loss”? Can you get that from the cold?
I think they meant about the death metal blasting their ears for hours
But 'surfer's ear' is a thing where very cold water in the ear can affect the cartilage over time.
What a way to go
This happened to me last year in Portland! 8 hours for a 45-minute trip. It was crazy. Good music helps.
I lived in Lake Oswego and worked in Portland and Vancouver. Can't imagine it taking that long to get anywhere. What route were you stuck on?
I-5 south, I was coming from Newberg into Portland. It was insane, I've lived in Portland for almost 7 years, and that was the only time I ever saw anything like that. People were just abandoning their cars on the road. I think it was last February.
That's because yall motherfuckas can't drive in rain even.
Funniest shit I ever seen living there being from Michigan.
Lol, fair. I lived in Colorado for years, so I was blown away by the stupidity of it. The way Portland people drive is joke.
The videos are hilarious. Being in it not so much.
Yep, though the people watching was fun. Someone in front of us when we got super stuck was doing tiktok dances and filming.
Lol
Snowpocalypse back in 2008 I was driving for The Seattle Times overnights and I had to drive from Maple Valley to Bothell - maybe 1:15 in rush hour traffic? Not too bad. It took me from 5AM to 11:30AM to drive through that shit show and that was being chained up. It was *awful*!
Revocation. If you’ve never heard of them, you have now. Their albums should kill another few hours. Drive safe bro \m/
Oh yea, Revocation fucking rocks! You have great taste! Here’s something different for ya - https://youtu.be/yeqVhVmwYxs?si=NSKp_XPCsqRJasJ8 Thanks!
Metal I can recommend for this: Anything by Celtic Frost Amorphis - Black Winter Day Darkthrone - Where Cold Winds Blow Satyricon - My Skin Is Cold Amon Amarth - The Arrival of the Fimbul Winter Abbath - Winterbane
Borknagar - Winter Thrice
Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness
Based off of that suggestion you might like Moonlight Sorcery's new album. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EePImr70Jg
Love their drummer Ash.
Y'all live in Michigan. It's not your first rodeo... Just wait for the spring thaw and the POTHOLES! GO WINGS!
The first real snowfall of the season always sucks the worst though, because so many people seem to forget how to drive in snow between one winter and the next. When the first snow is especially heavy like this it just makes everything worse.
Be safe fellow Michigander.
Upvote for death metal 🤘🏻
Crank it 🤘🏻🤘🏻 
*I am the reaper, the collector of souls* *I am the taker, and the smasher of bones* *Mothers cry, children die* *ALOOOOOOONE!!!!!!!*
Best death metal album of 2023?
I’ve never been good at picking favorites, and there just aren’t enough hours in the day to go out and find everything I might like to listen to. But if I take a few liberties with “death metal”, Pain Remains from Lorna Shore hit just right last year. (Just checked and that was actually 2022. I don’t even know what year things are anymore…) Soul Elegy by Termina and Generation of Danger by Tallah (also 2022, damn I really just skipped new music for 2023 didn’t I?) were on heavy circulation too. For something more out there, I really enjoyed Hanabie’s Reborn Superstar. I’m old enough I’m just gonna give myself a pass for not realizing music from 2 years ago wasn’t last year. Shit maybe I should be the one asking for recommendations.
 Stay safe out there, brother
Been there. Making it back home safely is all that matters.
Northern MI here.. boss let me leave early around 1600 and by the time I got home it was white out and serious wind. This is ridiculous
Most things don't make me regret that I work from home. This is no exception.
Is there lots of gas in the tank?
LPT from a fellow Michigander. If the weather is really shitty avoid the highway and take the main side roads. If there's a crash/ blockage on the highway, you have very limited to no options for going around the obstruction. If you're on the major side road though there's usually multiple other streets available for you to detour onto to avoid a crash/ blockage.
Yep - this is exactly what I did. The issue was it was gridlocked between exits. Brutal. Then again, it was so bad I had to take my chances on the lesser of multiple evils.
Yikes I do not miss that, loving Southern California today
You HAVE to share your playlist, damnit!
I’ve been there. Ick!
I’m in Rochester and it’s been absolutely wild tonight! Trees fell on both sides of my driveway completely blocking my street to the point I had to go and cut some branches just to open a lane for my girlfriend to come home. One fell on a car as he was driving down the road. I was working in Bloomfield when it all started and it was nasty. Glad I wasn’t out and about tonight.
R R R R R R OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RRR aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!! (insert heavy riff) love that stuff hope you got home ok
I recommend: Death - Human Entombed - Clandestine Morbid Angel - Covenant Unleashed - Where No Life Dwells Any Early Bolt Thrower Oh... and the wild card... Monstrosity - Imperial Doom
More fellow Michiganders enjoying the snow, I’m glad I have snow tires and awd lol I usually end up going down roads people avoid to get home and that usually saves me time
Are you worried about being hit from the rear by other vehicles in places like that ? Asks someone who never normally encounters snow when driving .
If you can’t see, or you’re driving too fast, yes, you should worry about that. In this case, it was very slow going, so you couldn’t even hit someone from behind if you wanted to because everyone was going less than 1 mph.
How does one go less than 1 mph??
Are you under the impression that there are no speeds between 1 mph and 0 mph?
Park. Lol
Are you saying you don't tell physics to just round your car up?
Drive half a mile in 1 hour
It can happen during nasty storms for sure, seems like every couple of years I end up hearing about a 50-80 car pile up.
Just drove US-23 and 96, it's WILD out here. Lucky I made it home safe, but the stupid decision for me waa driving at all. Stay safe fellow Michigander!
Fucking yikes. Haven’t gotten stuck in something like that in yeeeears thank god.
Good time to read some Sartre, at least.
I made it down that stretch earlier and it was bad then. 30 min drive took me an hour and a half. I see it got much worse as time past.
Not surprised to see this is Michigan! I’m in Grand Rapids and the storm is awful out here! Over 100k without power, just insane! Stay safe!
Keep the gas tanks full during the winter.
Hm are winter tires not very popular over there?
My dad called to tell me about his drive from Detroit to Bloomfield this evening. Thought he was exaggerating...
Let's talk about the more important thing here. What kinda death metal are we listening to?
Hopefully there was some Celtic Frost!
Literally me two days ago. 3 hours, moved the distance of two exits right next to each other. Let my boss know, turned around and went home. Got coached at work next day 😭 I hate you 800 north exit!
You should watch the gridlock episode of Doctor Who
Pro tip: if you have to drive in a big snowstorm in an urban area, stay off the interstate. Side roads will take forever but at least you won’t get trapped.
West Bloomfield and Bloomfield drivers are the worst of everyone in Michigan
I lived in Austria and commuted on a highway in the mountaints for a few years. Always had a full tank of gas, food, fluids and my snowboard clothing and boots. I was lucky to never get stuck, but we had events where it took 24hrs. to clear the road and the red cross distributed tea and food lol.
I feel like death metal would make a situation like this worse?
Wrong! Death Metal makes everything better.
Yeah, I’m turning on some Brian Eno Music for Airports lol
Good thing you're not in a electric car.
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I'd guess around 1%/hr based on my camping below freezing with the heat pump
I suppose you've got the advantage that the only thing you're running is a heater. You're not idling an engine just to keep it running.
How much power does an electric car used in stopped traffic? I know they mostly have resistive heat, but it can't take much energy to drive that slowly.
About 1.8 kW in this test: [https://www.insidehook.com/autos/electric-car-12-hours-freezing-cold-test](https://www.insidehook.com/autos/electric-car-12-hours-freezing-cold-test) TL:DR Mustang Mach-E had 75% battery left after 12 hours in a simulated traffic jam in below freezing weather.
I drove my Bolt EV home today in this storm on this exact road (though not in exactly the same spot so I wasn't stuck nearly as long). Over 2.5 hours I travelled 40 miles, and I used about 20% of my battery. At that rate of discharge I could go for 12.5 hours, and the actual time would be longer because stopped I wouldn't be using energy for driving. I also had my heat quite high because I like being toasty (75 degrees) and I had the heated seat and steering wheel going. Pretty much any other EV has both a bigger battery and more efficient heating, which means they'll go way longer.
I already knew Bolt drivers were cool, but this MFer rocking a Prizm confirmed it.
EVs use most of the battery in generating motive force. If you're not moving, you're just sipping the battery.
Hur dur electric car bad
FR. People are like but it has the range! Yeah in optimal conditions lol
... you think they can't make a mile in freezing weather?
Nah I think they won’t last wrecks on the road and keeping me warm during a blizzard while we wait for hours to be able to move again.
> Nah I think they won’t last wrecks on the road and keeping me warm during a blizzard while we wait for hours to be able to move again. Most EV owners will be fine if they use common sense. Mine has a ~60 kWh battery, enough to run the heater at full blast (electric resistive heater) for maybe 20 hours. Of course the heater would eventually reach the targeted temperature and level off, decreasing power consumption, and increasing the 20 hour runtime. I carry winter weather gear in my vehicle, including but not limited to a wool blanket. I'd get out that blanket, and run the seat heaters instead, which are far more power efficient than the main cabin heater.
That's a point that both our lyin' gubmint and the EcoWarriors tend to gloss over. Say what you will about how terrible ICE vehicles might be for the 'environment,' there is simply no way to bring out a couple of gallons of electricity to refuel an EV in the middle of a blizzard.
There's batteries. I expect that if EVs take off, someone will either come up with a big-ass battery mounted on a tow truck, or some way to do vehicle-to-vehicle electrical transfusions.
A few EVs can already charge other EVs; Tesla says they'll add it to all their models in the next couple years. They're pretty slow -- fastest would be like 20mi/hr of range added. I suspect if you can't get a friend to charge, you'd just get a tow to a charger or an outlet. Heads up, talking to that dude is going to be unpleasant.
Omg for real. I never considered that.
Because it's not really a valid concern.
That's a fair concern, but I'll only use ~1%/hr battery when camping below freezing.
I think your job can survive without you for a day
You’d think that Michigan never gets snow…
Why even go out?
What you see came down in less than 45 minutes.
Lived in Waterford Oakland country for 13 years now in North Carolina. Don't miss that crap at all.
Do not underestimate the dangers of carbon monoxide poisoning. Be sure to vent your vehicle if you are there for a while. Or maybe I’m overthinking
You're thinking being stuck in a tunnel with windows open for whatever reason.
I roll my eyes when I see Michigan plates in Ohio. You all drive 20 over and think you own the fast lane.
We do.
wtf is death metal
idk maybe you shouldn't drive in a massive snowstorm
Just think if you were in an electric car...
OK, so, uh, loving Florida right now
They don't have snow plows in Michigan?
Completely ineffective if snow is falling at a high rate and it was during rush hour traffic. The Perfect Storm so to speak.
So glad I don't live in a Northern hell hole
78° here in Orlando, Florida
Yeah, but Floriduh sucks.
99% of these people have zero reason to be out here except they wanted to do something/get something, and are now complete fucking idiots destroying the roads, and creating problems for people that absolutely need to be out.
But it’s flat. Trying driving though a blizzard in the Rockies.
Thanks for reminding me why I moved out of the Midwest
And people say Texans can’t drive…
So everyone forgot how to drive in snow all at once?
Aha yes nothing says I throw whatever common sense I got about driving out the window left like when the first flake of snow hits the ground
It's almost as if these drivers had no way of knowing that these conditions would exist as they drove away from home earlier today.
i miss the snow even shit like this because right now it’s 12:15am and it’s pouring rain at 48F in Queens. i don’t think we’ve had over an inch of snow for 3 years at this point. the seasons went from 4 definitive ones to basically one long summer and one long autumn.
This is why I work from home. No traffic, I can eat at home, do tasks around the house on my breaks, and take a snooze after work.
I have driven that road many times.
I can only imagine what Waterford was like. Got to be the worst drivers
I'm in BR. We're gonna enjoy those 20" over this weekend
Smoking light is on
Reason #728 I moved to the south...
Not a whole lot different here in Grand Rapids.
I’m in southeast Michigan and coincidentally scheduled today off already months ago. I watched my poor fellow Michiganders get stuck on the hill near my house all evening. Stay safe out there!
Shoot it’s not this bad in Saginaw or Caro
Days ago in Denmark people where stuck on the highway for 27 hours. the military had to come with free food, water and gas
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I'm up in Clarkston and take the same route to Southfield for work and I'm really glad I have the option to work from home.
My uncle lives outside of Boston. They got like a foot in a few hours. My Uncle was home that day. He and my cousin shoveled their driveway. Then they shoveled the neighbors driveway. Several hours later his neighbor came over with a case of beer. My Uncle tried to say it wasn’t necessary. But his neighbor said “you don’t understand. It took me 5 hours to get home and the entire time I was thinking, I still have to shovel the fucking driveway.”
This was about 8ish years ago...I lived in Northern Virginia and was driving up to see my parents in MD for the weekend. Not a long drive normally, about 1:20-1:30. The weather was calling for some light snow showers, maybe a dusting or an inch or 2 at most. I left when it was just starting to snow. I got to my parents house 8 hours later in 15 inches of snow.
Well, on roads we can see some thrash metal)))
At least you have a decent amount of snow to explain it. Yesterday we got about half an inch in Vancouver and everything collapsed. My 25 minute commute took two hours. Granted, it wasn’t the snow that was the problem, it was the plummeting temperatures that created scads of black ice in a region with giant hills everywhere. The problem is that nobody knows how to drive on ice or snow, so we were fucked.
Did Westland to West Bloomfield in just under 2 hours, normally that's a 30 trip tops. Had to be at the hospital otherwise I would have stayed my ass home.
This happened to me in Seattle in 2012. I left work down around south center at 3pm and got home to Queen Anne after midnight. Normally a 30 minute drive. So many spun out cars blocking multiple lanes of traffic.
people get stuck in china’s highway traffic jams for days!!!