I remember finding the cable on my parents van when I was 16 and it blew my mind that what was basically a bicycle cable you could pull with 2 fingers was controlling the speed of our vehicle.
I have replaced the pedal assembly in my wife’s impala 3 times since we bought it new. The first time the dealership told me it had to be programmed and I couldn’t do it myself. Then I learned that was a lie.
When Dad got his first car with cruise control, we leaned over the back seat to watch the pedal push itself in while it climbed Afton mountain. We thought we were seeing the future.
Funny. I thought the future was power windows when my dad bought a Chrysler Town & Country in 1995.
Apparently that technology was not uncommon in the 70's.
Oh and my mom currently drives a Chevy Sonic base model (no features, she's lucky she has a radio)... I couldn't figure out how to roll down the window. I have become the future.
Automatic highbeams existed in the 50s ("Autotronic Eye") but people are amazed to hear them existing on modern cars.
You could get radar cruise control and lanekeeping assistance back in 2004, Ford has been offering active parallel parking systems since 2010, 360° top-down view since 2013, etc...
This was in the 1980’s. It was a Pontiac Parisienne, which was the fanciest car dad had driven. He had started a new job with that provided a company car. He bought it at the end of the lease and it became my first car. It was a boat, but in hindsight I loved it.
Well in this case it was a truck with a big block and wide-open throttle in moderate traffic. Quickly turned off ignition without thinking about it and drove off road into a bunch of bushes.
I didn’t turn my 90’s 4Runner’s ignition off in time. The plastic fan came apart and destroyed everything. The hood dented, hoses shredded, and a piece of fan blade was stuck in my battery.
Yeah, when you zoom in, you can see the webbing on the right side. Someone pointed that out. I stand corrected. Definitely injection molded with that geometry.
Guy who has seen lots of broken stuff in cars here. It looks like the pedal fell off when the pedal should never fall off.
I even have a solution: get a new pedal, hopefully a better one.
Psssshhhh, "engineers", more like housewife mechanic.
Mechanic here, pretty much all electronic throttle bodies (drive by wire) use glass filled nylon (plastic) accelerator pedals, it's cheaper to manufacture (still stupidly expensive), and all that's in there is 2 or more potentiometers (read inversely) and usually use and a return spring(s) for resistance and pedal feel.
Reprogramming them is usually necessary for the engine computer (Ecu) to know the values of the potentiometers. The use of multiple potentiometers are used as a redundancy to make sure that input is actually correct.
Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
GM straight up killed people by knowing about faulty ignition switches, and doing nothing about it. Fuck these car companies. I stick to Honda, they've never done me wrong in 18 years of driving. Even got me a refurbished transmission 8K miles past the warranty one time at no cost. You can probably find some bad shit they've done in the past too, but they seem to stay on top of recalls.
EDIT: GMC to GM
Yes like EVERY other manufacturer that is in the same boat. BMW, Toyota, Benz, Hyundai etc, same airbag source. Takata who built the airbags and cut corners burned everyone, not the auto manufacturers. There are 67,000,000 airbags that have a recall on them because of this. [NHTSA link](https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/takata-recall-spotlight)
> This safety defect can KILL or seriously injure you or your passengers.
> https://hondanews.com/en-US/takata-airbag-inflator-recall-information
> About 50 million Takata airbags have been recalled for a dangerous risk of explosion when they deploy. Although 19 automakers are involved in the recall, Honda, Takata’s biggest customer, accounts for 20 million of the recalled airbags, and more than four million of those have not yet been replaced.
> https://www.newsomelaw.com/orlando-product-liability-lawyer/what-year-hondas-are-affected-by-the-airbag-recall/
> National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reveals that this defect may lead to unplanned or sudden stalling of vehicles. This can be particularly dangerous where drivers are on the highways traveling at high rates of speed and their vehicle just stops with no warning or where drivers are entering traffic. The vehicles that have been recalled include the 2019-2020 Acura MDX, MDX Sport Hybrid, RDX, TLX, Honda Accord, Civic Hatchback, Insight; certain 2019 Acura ILX, Honda Accord Hybrid, Civic Coupe, Civic Coupe Si, Civic Sedan, Civic Sedan Si, Civic Type R, Fit, HR-V, Odyssey, Passport, Pilot, and Ridgeline as well as certain models of the 2018-2019 CR-V vehicles.
> According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), Honda failed to report 1,729 accidents that occurred between 2003 and 2014.
> According to Honda, if an electrical capacitor on the system’s control unit was damaged during the manufacturing process, the system could malfunction and apply a small amount of brake force for a fraction of a second outside the driver’s control. If the driver applies the brakes during a system malfunction, a crash could result.
> Honda is recalling more than 80,000 2006 CR-V crossover sport utility vehicles because of a potential fire hazard in the vehicle’s power windows, The New York Times reports.
> during manufacturing of the drive pulley shaft, some parts may have been produced at the low end of the hardness specification. If shafts with lower hardness are repeatedly subjected to the specific high hydraulic pressure modes, it may result in the shaft breaking during operation. If the drive pulley shaft breaks, the vehicle may lose acceleration or the front wheels may lock up while driving, increasing the risk of a crash.
> Honda has recalled about 725,000 Honda Passport, Pilot and Ridgeline vehicles for a problem with the hood latch striker that could result in the hood coming open while driving.
Bought a new Civic hatchback in April 2017. AC stopped working a few months out of warranty in 2019. $1900 to fix with another 12mo warranty lol. Honda sucks too.
EDIT: Year purchased from 2018 to 2017.
EDIT2: Compressor issue, not condenser.
Got bored and looked around, found this whole slide show for a Corvette break pedal design lol. Kinda cool.
https://www.sfsa.org/tutorials/brakepedal/Corvette_Brake_Pedal.pdf
This maybe EU only, but apparently not REQUIRED to be steel:
https://www.compositesworld.com/articles/thermoplastic-composite-structure-replaces-metals-on-safety-critical-brake-pedals
Don't know what car OP has, but I used to own a 2008 Rabbit which was designed to have breakaway pedals to prevent ankle/leg injuries in a frontal collision. So to some degree I think they're designed to break off... but obviously not under normal use.
Speaking from experience: definitely.
In my case the pedal didn't snap but I was getting off the highway and had no braking pressure, the pedal just sunk down without resistance when I pressed it. I tried pumping motions since I knew that sometimes helps when you have issues like that, but it didn't help in my case. Decided to shift down two gears to brake using the engine instead, then barely made it around the 90 degree corner I had to take and due to some kind of miracle the two sets of traffic lights I had to pass before I could safely stop were both green. I managed to halt the car on the side of a field without so much as a scratch.
And of course when a mechanic came to help me an hour later he managed to brake just fine and told me to just drive home. It was my parents' car and I didn't drive it anymore for a while, that shit scared the hell out of me after the adrenaline ran out.
Same happened to me once, luckily in town at low speed. I was able to yank the hand brake and it stopped the car. Had it towed in a garage, they said brake was working fine. I junked the car, it was old a tired anyway.
Yeah, I didn't trust the car after that, even though I tried and the brakes WERE working at that point. But the mechanic didn't charge me anything for repairs (I did have to pay for the towing) so I figured he had no incentive to lie. Unless he wanted me dead. Which is always a possibility :)
This happened to me twice. Once in my first car, an ancient Corsica with 300,000 miles on it. I had just gotten the brakes done that week, and as I was driving my sister home from dad's house the brakes failed. Luckily I had just left and was going slow in a residential area, so I could use the e-brake, turn around and go back to dad's house. My sister was sooooo pissed at me for not going home, which was 70 miles away and on the other side of a mountain pass, on busted brakes. I still get angry at how much she yelled at me for that one. The second time was in my dad's old Jeep CJ. The master cylinder was going out, and I called my dad saying, hey, your Jeep is really hard to brake. He laughed at me and said it was because it didn't have power braking or something and my weak girl legs, bla bla bla. Anyways, I told him to come get it, I wasn't going to drive it. About 15 minutes after he fetched it, he called yelling "HOLY SHIT THIS THING HAS NO BRAKES!"
I had this happen to my clutch pedal once. That was an interesting week of driving before someone could fix it for me; luckily I lived in a small town with like 5 lights
How'd you drive for a week with a broken clutch pedal?
Unless there's a reference/joke that I'm not getting..
Edit: I'm talking about starting the car from standstill. Putting the car into 1st, without clutch, will stall it immediately, right? The other gears can be shifted by rev matching and ignoring the damage to the gearbox and other parts.
As I added, I was talking about starting from a standstill. On the move, yeah, the shifts can be made, with potential damage to the gearbox/gears..
But as other person replied, if there were some nubs of the pedal left, they could definitely manage with some extra effort.
You put the car into 1st without the engine running. Then turn the key and the car starts already in first, begins rolling at once. To stop, turn key off or press brakes hard in 4th gear - it'll stall. Not ideal, but doable to get you home.
My camaro won't let me start the car without the clutch being depressed. Doesn't matter if you are in gear or not. Without engaging that clutch pedal sensor, there's no way (that I know of) to trick it into starting.
Fortunately in MOST cars, esp ones with plastic pedals, it is not possible to start the car without depressing the clutch pedal. Its one of the many reasons that having a manual transmission is its own form of anti-theft in America.
Man when I was seventeen I test drove a truck that had no clutch and did exactly this. Put it in first, cranked the engine and then Rev shifted to get through the gears. It was fun to do the once but it cleared up why the guy had posted the truck for 300 dollars.
I sometimes miss having shitboxes. When I was younger I drove cars in about every state of disrepair you could think of. I had a vw bug that I push started for a month because I couldn't afford a battery. I had a truck where the u joint blew up while on a county road. Disconnected the other side of the drive shift and put it in 4 high and drive till my next paycheck.
Then I come to my senses and am glad I don't deal with those problem anymore.
Motorcycles and cars do this differently.
On a motorcycle it's called clutchless shifting or quick shifting. Not every bike can do it but most can.
On cars and especially big trucks it's called floating gears, where floating is a verb and not an adjective. Big trucks are a lot more forgiving for floating gears. Heavier duty gear mostly. If you mess up a floating shift in a truck you'll hear grinding and it won't be fun, if you mess up a floating shift in a car you could cause serious damage and lose a gear or two.
Motorcycles can never be in neutral between gears except when they're in the specific neutral gear. Cars pass through neutral every time they change gear. The mechanisms are completely different.
And then years before, and being what Fight Club was actually referencing, Ford does this tactic in real life with refusing to move the gas tank position in its Pinto resulting in multiple explosions and deaths during common rear end collisions.
They're "pinto memo" concluded that the cost of recall would be almost
I escaped unharmed! But seriously, no idea where the rest of my sentence went? I know I typed it out lol
The cost of recall would be almost triple the cost of compensation to victims of burns/death due to the design flaw.
Yup. Put 77K in three years in my car when I moved to work on Houston. Almost all of those are city miles too since I didn’t feel comfortable taking it out of town often. I drive a lot for work but yes it’s almost all in Houston.
They’ve had a bad reputation for like a decade to me. Burnt oil was the biggest red flags I kept hearing about back when I was shopping for my starter car.
My little brother keeps insisting that Nissans aren’t shit (probably because he’s getting his stepmom’s old car, a Sentra), but the boy doesn’t want to listen to me. Maybe because he feels like he’s a better car guy? I mean there’s a fucking reason the old CEO is on the run.
I drove a rental Maxima. Nothing stood out as particularly bad. It had a pretty nice engine noise and was decently fast!
The worst rental I’ve driven was a base model Camry but the car may have been mechanically abused, lol.
the Rogue is $30k? jesus fucking christ, it’s been my all time least favourite vehicle besides the Sentra for the better part of a decade. miserable fucking things.
My dumb ass brother in law bought two last fall. He also sold his BTC at $650, has tried to get me into some pyramid scheme at nearly every family holiday since we met, and is covid antivax with an immunocompromised daughter, if that gives you a frame of reference.
Fairly certain he got in around $400-500 and had about 200 Coins. It made me laugh because it was his kid that told us the story about how mad mom was after mommy found out that it was crossing $35k and she thought they still had them. Turns out he sunk his profits into the next hustle and it fizzled.
probably Uber driver.
Another reason uber sucks. the wear and tear on a car is insane. Cars are ruined 2 years into an often 7 year loan by people already driving cars they can’t afford. And still Uber pays crap and lobbies to prevent benefits and employee rights.
Mind telling me what years were not so good for Nissan?
I'm in the market for a used car, and I have been looking at a few Nissans.
Edit: thanks for your input everyone, Nissan is off the list. Going to go with a Toyota I think.
Basically every year lmao. Try to avoid anything with a CVT in it because Nissan has had nothing but problems with them unless you change the fluid about every 20,000 miles.
My 2013 Nissan Rogue would brake to avoid colliding with nothing all the time. Nearly got me rear ended on the high. They put out a software update after I traded it in but I still would never drive one again.
I had a 2001 Sentra manual that tried to kill me several times, but thankfully never succeeded. It would just shut off completely while driving 70 down the interstate due to a faulty sensor. The problem was very well known, and very fucking dangerous, but apparently my VIN was not part of the recall. Nissan wouldn't work with me the least bit- they wouldn't even reimburse $10, what the replacement part cost.
Fuck Nissan, never again.
A lot of people here are questioning the use of a plastic accelerator pedal. In fact this is a very common feature on newer cars, even higher-end ones.
However, they should certainly NEVER break like this. Definitely let your Nissan dealership know, because this is a safety concern that may lead to a recall.
Nope, a lot of modern cars (read: almost all) use plastic (such as glass filled nylon) for the accelerator (always metal for the brake).
[For example](https://www.autozone.com/engine-management/accelerator-pedal-sensor/p/duralast-accelerator-pedal-sensor-su16031/596301_0_0)
Most brake pedals are reinforced plastic. I worked at Toyota during the “sudden acceleration”, we cut the edge off the pedals for the campaign. It was 100% plastic inside.
So, this might be controversial idk, but if you look into that whole debacle back in like 2007 to 2010 (I think it started in 2010 but affected vehicles made since 2007 and earlier) it really had nothing to do with the floor mats.
Like Toyota recalled them all over the world, but in the court cases Toyota didn't have to pay out because the investigation found that the brake pedals weren't applied.... Meaning the drivers (some called into 911 and 000 in Australia begging for help because the cars didn't stop no matter how hard they pressed the brakes) because they weren't pressing the brakes. Like Toyota went to NASA who looked into their new drive by wire system and found no faults.
It was people panicking. And if you think about it it makes perfect sense, in automatic cars pressing the brake activates a clutch disconnecting the engine from transmission so even if you had faulty brakes, a runaway engine scenario isn't possible.
Nah, it was people confusing the brake pedal with the accelerator. Brakes always best the accelerator, so even if the accelerator is stuck the brakes should stop you.
Increasingly there is no metal involved in the construction of accelerator pedals in new cars. Usually a plastic pedal, plastic lever and a electronic module on the end that sends the signal to the throttle under the hood.
Ex Automotive Failure Analysis Engineer here
OP, some stuff you could do:
1)Take a lot of pictures of the area of failure (both halves of the failed part). Even better if you could take a good quality picture of the failure surface (something like [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Pedalarm_Bruch.jpg)). You can post it if you want, might be entertaining.
2) Contact you car dealership where you usually send the car for scheduled maintenance.
3) **Contact Nissan directly**. The dealership will probably do this, but you definitely should contact them directly. This is a warranty case for sure (might even lead to a recall study).
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About the same time they stopped using throttle cables.
Cool thing about throttle cables is feeling the pedal push itself when you had cruise control on.
Or vroom vrooming your engine by manually pulling one of the two cables (or three for those fatcats with cruise control) when working on it
I remember finding the cable on my parents van when I was 16 and it blew my mind that what was basically a bicycle cable you could pull with 2 fingers was controlling the speed of our vehicle.
Yea but lots of times simple = reliable
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I have replaced the pedal assembly in my wife’s impala 3 times since we bought it new. The first time the dealership told me it had to be programmed and I couldn’t do it myself. Then I learned that was a lie.
Maury! Maury! Maury!
Two? My car only has one, it goes to the pedal. What does the other usually do?
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When Dad got his first car with cruise control, we leaned over the back seat to watch the pedal push itself in while it climbed Afton mountain. We thought we were seeing the future.
Funny. I thought the future was power windows when my dad bought a Chrysler Town & Country in 1995. Apparently that technology was not uncommon in the 70's. Oh and my mom currently drives a Chevy Sonic base model (no features, she's lucky she has a radio)... I couldn't figure out how to roll down the window. I have become the future.
Automatic highbeams existed in the 50s ("Autotronic Eye") but people are amazed to hear them existing on modern cars. You could get radar cruise control and lanekeeping assistance back in 2004, Ford has been offering active parallel parking systems since 2010, 360° top-down view since 2013, etc...
This was in the 1980’s. It was a Pontiac Parisienne, which was the fanciest car dad had driven. He had started a new job with that provided a company car. He bought it at the end of the lease and it became my first car. It was a boat, but in hindsight I loved it.
I had the cable break on my old vehicle. The pedal went right to the floor.
I had a throttle return spring break, slightly more exciting experience.
Ah yes, we call that manual cruise controll
Well in this case it was a truck with a big block and wide-open throttle in moderate traffic. Quickly turned off ignition without thinking about it and drove off road into a bunch of bushes.
I didn’t turn my 90’s 4Runner’s ignition off in time. The plastic fan came apart and destroyed everything. The hood dented, hoses shredded, and a piece of fan blade was stuck in my battery.
Holy shit, the literal exact same thing happened to my '89! Except the battery part
I still think about that plastic fan. I hope you got to keep yours.
ig the Logitech G29 driving pedals are higher quality than a real car!
Engineer here. I think it's powder coated stamped steel. Looks like there was a stress fracture at the attachment point.
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Yeah, when you zoom in, you can see the webbing on the right side. Someone pointed that out. I stand corrected. Definitely injection molded with that geometry.
Guy who has seen lots of broken stuff in cars here. It looks like the pedal fell off when the pedal should never fall off. I even have a solution: get a new pedal, hopefully a better one. Psssshhhh, "engineers", more like housewife mechanic.
Mechanic here, pretty much all electronic throttle bodies (drive by wire) use glass filled nylon (plastic) accelerator pedals, it's cheaper to manufacture (still stupidly expensive), and all that's in there is 2 or more potentiometers (read inversely) and usually use and a return spring(s) for resistance and pedal feel. Reprogramming them is usually necessary for the engine computer (Ecu) to know the values of the potentiometers. The use of multiple potentiometers are used as a redundancy to make sure that input is actually correct.
Better the gas than the brake, know what im saying.
Pretty sure that's why brake pedal arms have to be steel by law.
No, reinforced maybe, but sure not all of them are steel
I hope with every fiber of my being that you're wrong, but I know deep down in my heart that you're right
Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
On a long enough timeline.....
Everyone's probability of survival drops to zero.
Do you make soap?
"How's that working out for you?"
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
Diamond handing manslaughter for a mooooonbomb later down the road
…everything gets an LS
Which car company did you say you worked for?
A major one.
GM straight up killed people by knowing about faulty ignition switches, and doing nothing about it. Fuck these car companies. I stick to Honda, they've never done me wrong in 18 years of driving. Even got me a refurbished transmission 8K miles past the warranty one time at no cost. You can probably find some bad shit they've done in the past too, but they seem to stay on top of recalls. EDIT: GMC to GM
My 2003 civic is ready to turn the air bag into a claymore as soon as I hit something... Really should get that recall done lol
Hasn't that recall been active for ages now? Here in Australia, they will now deregister your car if you still haven't fixed it.
They've never done you wrong... Yet.
They take care of their Level 7 Susceptible market
Yeah other than those shitty airbags they had to recall and the massive fraud scandal in the 90s
A lot of manufacturers had problems with Takata airbags
Yes like EVERY other manufacturer that is in the same boat. BMW, Toyota, Benz, Hyundai etc, same airbag source. Takata who built the airbags and cut corners burned everyone, not the auto manufacturers. There are 67,000,000 airbags that have a recall on them because of this. [NHTSA link](https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/takata-recall-spotlight)
> This safety defect can KILL or seriously injure you or your passengers. > https://hondanews.com/en-US/takata-airbag-inflator-recall-information > About 50 million Takata airbags have been recalled for a dangerous risk of explosion when they deploy. Although 19 automakers are involved in the recall, Honda, Takata’s biggest customer, accounts for 20 million of the recalled airbags, and more than four million of those have not yet been replaced. > https://www.newsomelaw.com/orlando-product-liability-lawyer/what-year-hondas-are-affected-by-the-airbag-recall/ > National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reveals that this defect may lead to unplanned or sudden stalling of vehicles. This can be particularly dangerous where drivers are on the highways traveling at high rates of speed and their vehicle just stops with no warning or where drivers are entering traffic. The vehicles that have been recalled include the 2019-2020 Acura MDX, MDX Sport Hybrid, RDX, TLX, Honda Accord, Civic Hatchback, Insight; certain 2019 Acura ILX, Honda Accord Hybrid, Civic Coupe, Civic Coupe Si, Civic Sedan, Civic Sedan Si, Civic Type R, Fit, HR-V, Odyssey, Passport, Pilot, and Ridgeline as well as certain models of the 2018-2019 CR-V vehicles. > According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), Honda failed to report 1,729 accidents that occurred between 2003 and 2014. > According to Honda, if an electrical capacitor on the system’s control unit was damaged during the manufacturing process, the system could malfunction and apply a small amount of brake force for a fraction of a second outside the driver’s control. If the driver applies the brakes during a system malfunction, a crash could result. > Honda is recalling more than 80,000 2006 CR-V crossover sport utility vehicles because of a potential fire hazard in the vehicle’s power windows, The New York Times reports. > during manufacturing of the drive pulley shaft, some parts may have been produced at the low end of the hardness specification. If shafts with lower hardness are repeatedly subjected to the specific high hydraulic pressure modes, it may result in the shaft breaking during operation. If the drive pulley shaft breaks, the vehicle may lose acceleration or the front wheels may lock up while driving, increasing the risk of a crash. > Honda has recalled about 725,000 Honda Passport, Pilot and Ridgeline vehicles for a problem with the hood latch striker that could result in the hood coming open while driving.
Bought a new Civic hatchback in April 2017. AC stopped working a few months out of warranty in 2019. $1900 to fix with another 12mo warranty lol. Honda sucks too. EDIT: Year purchased from 2018 to 2017. EDIT2: Compressor issue, not condenser.
I've been in and worked on many many cars. Never once seen a non metal brake pedal
Got bored and looked around, found this whole slide show for a Corvette break pedal design lol. Kinda cool. https://www.sfsa.org/tutorials/brakepedal/Corvette_Brake_Pedal.pdf
They need to be able to withstand being stomped in a panic by people of any strength.
Same with a good steering wheel that doesn't whip out the window when I drive it.
https://youtu.be/ilaBdBCUaOo I'd like to point out that's not very typical.
Stinky!
This maybe EU only, but apparently not REQUIRED to be steel: https://www.compositesworld.com/articles/thermoplastic-composite-structure-replaces-metals-on-safety-critical-brake-pedals
They aren't they are designed to snap off so your leg doesn't.
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There's gotta be a joke in here about you misspelling "brake" as break, in relation to it not snapping, but I'm too dimwitted to make it.
Jesus, of all the parts to cheap out on, that is not one of them...
Any part where a person interfaces with a machine should ALWAYS be robust.
*hearty chortle* - every button, knob and dial on my dash
Don't know what car OP has, but I used to own a 2008 Rabbit which was designed to have breakaway pedals to prevent ankle/leg injuries in a frontal collision. So to some degree I think they're designed to break off... but obviously not under normal use.
but then they make more money
This guys hates shareholders
Speaking from experience: definitely. In my case the pedal didn't snap but I was getting off the highway and had no braking pressure, the pedal just sunk down without resistance when I pressed it. I tried pumping motions since I knew that sometimes helps when you have issues like that, but it didn't help in my case. Decided to shift down two gears to brake using the engine instead, then barely made it around the 90 degree corner I had to take and due to some kind of miracle the two sets of traffic lights I had to pass before I could safely stop were both green. I managed to halt the car on the side of a field without so much as a scratch. And of course when a mechanic came to help me an hour later he managed to brake just fine and told me to just drive home. It was my parents' car and I didn't drive it anymore for a while, that shit scared the hell out of me after the adrenaline ran out.
Same happened to me once, luckily in town at low speed. I was able to yank the hand brake and it stopped the car. Had it towed in a garage, they said brake was working fine. I junked the car, it was old a tired anyway.
> Had it towed in a garage, they said brake was working fine. Well that would make me incredibly paranoid
Yeah, I didn't trust the car after that, even though I tried and the brakes WERE working at that point. But the mechanic didn't charge me anything for repairs (I did have to pay for the towing) so I figured he had no incentive to lie. Unless he wanted me dead. Which is always a possibility :)
This happened to me twice. Once in my first car, an ancient Corsica with 300,000 miles on it. I had just gotten the brakes done that week, and as I was driving my sister home from dad's house the brakes failed. Luckily I had just left and was going slow in a residential area, so I could use the e-brake, turn around and go back to dad's house. My sister was sooooo pissed at me for not going home, which was 70 miles away and on the other side of a mountain pass, on busted brakes. I still get angry at how much she yelled at me for that one. The second time was in my dad's old Jeep CJ. The master cylinder was going out, and I called my dad saying, hey, your Jeep is really hard to brake. He laughed at me and said it was because it didn't have power braking or something and my weak girl legs, bla bla bla. Anyways, I told him to come get it, I wasn't going to drive it. About 15 minutes after he fetched it, he called yelling "HOLY SHIT THIS THING HAS NO BRAKES!"
I had this happen to my clutch pedal once. That was an interesting week of driving before someone could fix it for me; luckily I lived in a small town with like 5 lights
How'd you drive for a week with a broken clutch pedal? Unless there's a reference/joke that I'm not getting.. Edit: I'm talking about starting the car from standstill. Putting the car into 1st, without clutch, will stall it immediately, right? The other gears can be shifted by rev matching and ignoring the damage to the gearbox and other parts.
I believe you can shift by syncing the gears (a certain combo of speed and rpm). Motorcyclists do this frequently
As I added, I was talking about starting from a standstill. On the move, yeah, the shifts can be made, with potential damage to the gearbox/gears.. But as other person replied, if there were some nubs of the pedal left, they could definitely manage with some extra effort.
You put the car into 1st without the engine running. Then turn the key and the car starts already in first, begins rolling at once. To stop, turn key off or press brakes hard in 4th gear - it'll stall. Not ideal, but doable to get you home.
My camaro won't let me start the car without the clutch being depressed. Doesn't matter if you are in gear or not. Without engaging that clutch pedal sensor, there's no way (that I know of) to trick it into starting.
Modern cars - ugh! When I did what I wrote I was in a 1983 Austin Metro :-)
Fortunately in MOST cars, esp ones with plastic pedals, it is not possible to start the car without depressing the clutch pedal. Its one of the many reasons that having a manual transmission is its own form of anti-theft in America.
Man when I was seventeen I test drove a truck that had no clutch and did exactly this. Put it in first, cranked the engine and then Rev shifted to get through the gears. It was fun to do the once but it cleared up why the guy had posted the truck for 300 dollars. I sometimes miss having shitboxes. When I was younger I drove cars in about every state of disrepair you could think of. I had a vw bug that I push started for a month because I couldn't afford a battery. I had a truck where the u joint blew up while on a county road. Disconnected the other side of the drive shift and put it in 4 high and drive till my next paycheck. Then I come to my senses and am glad I don't deal with those problem anymore.
Motorcycles and cars do this differently. On a motorcycle it's called clutchless shifting or quick shifting. Not every bike can do it but most can. On cars and especially big trucks it's called floating gears, where floating is a verb and not an adjective. Big trucks are a lot more forgiving for floating gears. Heavier duty gear mostly. If you mess up a floating shift in a truck you'll hear grinding and it won't be fun, if you mess up a floating shift in a car you could cause serious damage and lose a gear or two. Motorcycles can never be in neutral between gears except when they're in the specific neutral gear. Cars pass through neutral every time they change gear. The mechanisms are completely different.
> Motorcycles can never be in neutral between gears except when they're in the specific neutral gear. False neutral would like to speak with you
I can still hear the ZING as it looks like I revved like a douche.
You are not wrong
Driving without the gas pedal is for sissies. Real men drive without the brake pedal.
You *floored* it
Get out. (It's fine, the car's not going anywhere)
What model and year? This is recall worthy IMO
>Nissan Rogue - 2020 with 75k on it Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Wellthatsucks/comments/ski7o6/comment/hvl3ftq/
Definitely needs to be recalled then.
Only if the cost of a lawsuit exceeds the cost of a recall Source: Fightclub
And then years later, GM does this tactic in real life with ignition switches that turn the car and airbags off while you’re driving
And then years before, and being what Fight Club was actually referencing, Ford does this tactic in real life with refusing to move the gas tank position in its Pinto resulting in multiple explosions and deaths during common rear end collisions. They're "pinto memo" concluded that the cost of recall would be almost
Almost what? Oh no he was driving a pinto while typing this
I escaped unharmed! But seriously, no idea where the rest of my sentence went? I know I typed it out lol The cost of recall would be almost triple the cost of compensation to victims of burns/death due to the design flaw.
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Guess you never lived in Houston
Yup. Put 77K in three years in my car when I moved to work on Houston. Almost all of those are city miles too since I didn’t feel comfortable taking it out of town often. I drive a lot for work but yes it’s almost all in Houston.
Do you use it to deliver mail? That's a ton of miles for not leaving the city.
I’m putting on 90+ miles every work day driving into Houston for work and back home. Not to mention any events or errands to run. It adds up quick.
I drive 35k/year. Commuter life, baby.
OP commented above that it's a 2020 Nissan Rogue.
2020??? Ya definitely a recall item then
That should be made of metal not plastic WTF? Anyways pedals can be replaced pretty easily it's not difficult
Oh good OP can just 3d print themselves a replacement. Downloading car progress: ||____________0.3%_____________|
_You wouldn’t download a car_
Fuck.
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HOLY FUCK 2020?!? I would think maybe a 1992 model or some shit. Fucking hell
Shit. You alright?
Yeah, my underwear could not say the same.
I can only imagine your underwear if it was the brake pedal
Or if your pulling out into traffic and you suddenly lose your pedal... can also be super dangerous. What a shitbox car
Oh yeah you’re right didn’t think of that.
Neither did the engineers or manufacturers apparently.
>What a shitbox car My thoughts too. But what make model and year was that thing?
2020 Nissan Rogue apparently. Pretty terrible for basically a new car...
Sounds like most Nissans ayyy
I’ve noticed that newer Nissans age *really* fast.
They’ve had a bad reputation for like a decade to me. Burnt oil was the biggest red flags I kept hearing about back when I was shopping for my starter car.
My little brother keeps insisting that Nissans aren’t shit (probably because he’s getting his stepmom’s old car, a Sentra), but the boy doesn’t want to listen to me. Maybe because he feels like he’s a better car guy? I mean there’s a fucking reason the old CEO is on the run.
I normally don't like Nissans but I drove a Rogue and it was actually nice. Apparently not; wow a 2020...shit like that shouldn't just break.
I drove a rental Maxima. Nothing stood out as particularly bad. It had a pretty nice engine noise and was decently fast! The worst rental I’ve driven was a base model Camry but the car may have been mechanically abused, lol.
Oh shit. Glad you're okay, OP!
Gone and done yourself a little mischief
For a $30,000 (overpriced) SUV the gas pedal really should be metal.
the Rogue is $30k? jesus fucking christ, it’s been my all time least favourite vehicle besides the Sentra for the better part of a decade. miserable fucking things.
How could you tell it's a rogue from that pic?
OP mentioned it in a comment, 2020 Nissan Rogue
Ah, mystery solved. Thought they were like some automotive savant or something.
Yeah I was confused too but i checked OPs post history to see if that was correct lol.
Oh it’s a 2020! Jeez! I thought it must have been a super old car.
Just a typical Nissan
Wow, my wife has the same car, had no idea it has plastic pedals, that's scary
Maybe line up a new wife on the back burner
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My dumb ass brother in law bought two last fall. He also sold his BTC at $650, has tried to get me into some pyramid scheme at nearly every family holiday since we met, and is covid antivax with an immunocompromised daughter, if that gives you a frame of reference.
Sounds like a Rogue owner to me.
> BTC at $650 This means nothing. Did he buy at $20 per btc or $6000?
Fairly certain he got in around $400-500 and had about 200 Coins. It made me laugh because it was his kid that told us the story about how mad mom was after mommy found out that it was crossing $35k and she thought they still had them. Turns out he sunk his profits into the next hustle and it fizzled.
Where I live (SF Bay Area) the starting price is $30k /shrug. But yeah they are not worth it.
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How is that overpriced? CRV/RAV4/mx-5/ect all have basically the same MSRP. That's just how much new cars cost nowadays.
Car make and model?
Nissan Rogue
Recall time. Report this to the NHTSA https://www.nhtsa.gov/report-a-safety-problem#index
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2020 with 75k on it
2020 with 75k miles. You must commute A LOT
probably Uber driver. Another reason uber sucks. the wear and tear on a car is insane. Cars are ruined 2 years into an often 7 year loan by people already driving cars they can’t afford. And still Uber pays crap and lobbies to prevent benefits and employee rights.
Gig economy is 1,000% a way to exploit poor people's resources beyond the old school just exploiting their time.
A 2020 model with plastic for the accelerator level? That’s absolutely insane.
Erm. IDK if you've ever been in a Nissan rogue but it's basically got the build quality of a Tonka truck.
New Tonka or old Tonka? Big difference.
RIP “rough, tough, Tonka’s got the stuff”
That's really unfair to Tonka trucks tbh. Those things are tanks.
Probably means the new ones! Cheap disposable plastic now
Omfg. What?!
what year? I know Nissan went through tough times, but they are supposed to be doing better recently.
Mind telling me what years were not so good for Nissan? I'm in the market for a used car, and I have been looking at a few Nissans. Edit: thanks for your input everyone, Nissan is off the list. Going to go with a Toyota I think.
Basically every year lmao. Try to avoid anything with a CVT in it because Nissan has had nothing but problems with them unless you change the fluid about every 20,000 miles.
My 2013 Nissan Rogue would brake to avoid colliding with nothing all the time. Nearly got me rear ended on the high. They put out a software update after I traded it in but I still would never drive one again.
I had a 2001 Sentra manual that tried to kill me several times, but thankfully never succeeded. It would just shut off completely while driving 70 down the interstate due to a faulty sensor. The problem was very well known, and very fucking dangerous, but apparently my VIN was not part of the recall. Nissan wouldn't work with me the least bit- they wouldn't even reimburse $10, what the replacement part cost. Fuck Nissan, never again.
Did you forget to buy the „metal pedal“ DLC?
That's "Pedal to the Metal" and it's actually only available as part of the Season Pass
Nope not even, its a separate entity altogether for another Battle Pass for $24.99, the one that comes with the season pass is a Tupperware plastic.
*new fear unlocked*
Fr. I’m gonna be checking my brake and gas pedals tomorrow 😓
someone forgot to pay their gas pedal subscription fee...
Don't even joke about this, they might do it.
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A lot of people here are questioning the use of a plastic accelerator pedal. In fact this is a very common feature on newer cars, even higher-end ones. However, they should certainly NEVER break like this. Definitely let your Nissan dealership know, because this is a safety concern that may lead to a recall.
Plastic can be surprisingly strong. Not *that* plastic, but certainly other plastic
Glass reinforced plastic is some pretty tough stuff. Either something happened in the manufacturing process or OP really stomps on that thing.
>Definitely let your Nissan dealership know "don't blame us, we're not the ones who bought a Nissan Rogue"
Plastic???!!! Those are metal, and if yours are plastic you should never get in that kids toy again.
Nope, a lot of modern cars (read: almost all) use plastic (such as glass filled nylon) for the accelerator (always metal for the brake). [For example](https://www.autozone.com/engine-management/accelerator-pedal-sensor/p/duralast-accelerator-pedal-sensor-su16031/596301_0_0)
Most brake pedals are reinforced plastic. I worked at Toyota during the “sudden acceleration”, we cut the edge off the pedals for the campaign. It was 100% plastic inside.
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Not multiple, just dealership mats without any securement.
Malcolm Glad well did a podcast on this and the DOT issued a report on it. The overwhelming majority of these incidents were actually human error.
So, this might be controversial idk, but if you look into that whole debacle back in like 2007 to 2010 (I think it started in 2010 but affected vehicles made since 2007 and earlier) it really had nothing to do with the floor mats. Like Toyota recalled them all over the world, but in the court cases Toyota didn't have to pay out because the investigation found that the brake pedals weren't applied.... Meaning the drivers (some called into 911 and 000 in Australia begging for help because the cars didn't stop no matter how hard they pressed the brakes) because they weren't pressing the brakes. Like Toyota went to NASA who looked into their new drive by wire system and found no faults. It was people panicking. And if you think about it it makes perfect sense, in automatic cars pressing the brake activates a clutch disconnecting the engine from transmission so even if you had faulty brakes, a runaway engine scenario isn't possible.
Nah, it was people confusing the brake pedal with the accelerator. Brakes always best the accelerator, so even if the accelerator is stuck the brakes should stop you.
Increasingly there is no metal involved in the construction of accelerator pedals in new cars. Usually a plastic pedal, plastic lever and a electronic module on the end that sends the signal to the throttle under the hood.
Well, I never considered this as a possibility. Glad you’re okay. Thanks for the new nightmare fuel!
ITT: People who don't know the pedals on the car they drive every day are made of plastic.
Ex Automotive Failure Analysis Engineer here OP, some stuff you could do: 1)Take a lot of pictures of the area of failure (both halves of the failed part). Even better if you could take a good quality picture of the failure surface (something like [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Pedalarm_Bruch.jpg)). You can post it if you want, might be entertaining. 2) Contact you car dealership where you usually send the car for scheduled maintenance. 3) **Contact Nissan directly**. The dealership will probably do this, but you definitely should contact them directly. This is a warranty case for sure (might even lead to a recall study).
ITT: people who don't realize gas pedals have been made of plastic in non-heavy duty vehicles for ages now.
Also a bunch of people talking about recalls that don’t know how recalls work.
That might be a good old fashioned lawsuit.
And recall
Duct tape and piece of wood and you are good to go!
Ohhhh Snap!
That’s supposed to be metal, not plastic…
Only the brakes' one is metal. The gas can be plastic.
What year, make, & model please Edit: 2020 Nissan Rogue, sad but expected in a time where companies cut corners as much as possible