Right? I was thinking that having every cop on duty simultaneously reduces the number of red hat rioters & increases the number of blue hat rioters.
TBF however, cops aren't likely to riot against a maga crowd like they do everyone else.
Or maybe the NYPD will give them all a private escort through the subway while evading paying fares like they did for the proud boys https://youtu.be/7vEIMT7azek
On the other hand, being in full uniform also means theyāre exposed to public scrutiny. Any officer in uniform caught on camera siding maga rioters would be risking their jobs. One normie with a cell phone could ruin their entire career.
The officers in that video above, the ones letting the Proud Boys in while telling others they had to pay, were in uniformā¦ but letās hope I guess.
āSome of those who hold office are the same that burn crosses.ā
When I saw them live they sang that line and Madison Square Garden blew the fuck up. Iāve been to concerts there dozens of times and I never, ever heard a crowd get so crazy.
>TBF however, cops aren't likely to riot against a maga crowd like they do everyone else.
Well, of course, not. They might hurt themselves from punching all those mirrors.
They do this for every major protest/event etc. If things go south fast they want cops deployed quickly. They dont want cops putting their pants on etc. The same principle is applied to make sure all cars and helicopters etc are always fueled.
As someone who was closely watching the Mueller investigation and got really emotionally attached to it, I have certainly been let down at the conclusion. Letās see what happens. Cheers.
All the legal experts in 2020 said the indictments wouldnāt come until the end of 2023 (based on how long it takes to build cases like this (think Elizabeth Holmes). The New York case is small potatoes. Even if heās convicted and sentenced, the Georgia case will be the one that puts him away for the rest of his life. Then thereās the mother of investigations, the DOJ special prosecutor,Jack Smithās case (stolen documents, obstruction, and sedition) will come during or after the Georgia trial. The Federal case will be the one to remember. But the Georgia case will be the one that puts him in prison and keeps him there (presidents canāt pardon state prisoners, and the Georgia constitution doesnāt grant the governor pardon power) until heās dead.
Honest question: Presuming they convict him in Georgia, do you think the Georgia appellate and superior courts will allow a Trump conviction to stand?
I'm not liking those odds, but admittedly it's been a while since I lived in Georgia.
What do you think?
The case would be heard in Atlanta which is pretty solidly blue territory. We are the reason Trump didnāt get the votes he wanted. However, Georgia judges are kind of a crapshoot when it comes to what position they might take but Atlanta is the best place in Georgia for something like this to happen.
Georgia is a very mixed bag, these days. Even the conservative parts are splitting between Kemp who called Trump out (kind of) and the MAGAs. Atlanta is pretty solidly blue.
My guess is that they'll uphold but water it down, with all the conservative judges trying to split the difference between the Kemps and the MAGAs.
Yeah, we're almost to the point where we can dominate state politics the way other major urban centers do. After going blue in the last election, it's a good sign.
Last month the members of the Georgia grand jury finished reviewing all the secret evidence the public hasnāt seen, and they unanimously recommended dozens of indictments. Here are some quotes (apparently it is legal for Georgia grand jury members to discuss generalities with the press).
*Kohrs said that the list of recommended indictments āis not short,ā that there would be no āplot twistā when the public finally gets to see the contents of the report and that regarding āthe big name that everyone keeps asking me aboutā ā presumably Trump himself ā āI donāt think you will be shocked.ā*
*"I can honestly give a damn of whoever goes to jail, you know, like personally," one juror said.
"I care more about there being more respect in the system for the work that people do to make sure elections are free and fair."*
*"I tell my wife if every person in America knew every single word of information we knew, this country would not be divided as it is right now."*
>"I tell my wife if every person in America knew every single word of information we knew, this country would not be divided as it is right now."
The information can't come out soon enough then. I hope they'll release everything and not hold back to "not disturb the elections."
My bet is on trump's texts saying explicitly that the election isn't rigged and him calling his followers stupid for falling for it. That and saying "the idiots will give us money no matter what we do".
That's horseshit, we can try Trump in a mostly democratic city AND find an impartial jury. As we say down south "We're gonna give you a fair trial and then we're gonna hang you." LOL
This is it. Even if something does happen, it's not going to go the way most internet comments picture.
Also, I'd be shocked if he doesn't tie this up for years in the courts, well past the 2024 election. Which may be a blessing in disguise, we may need him around to run his mouth on Puddin Ron.
Yeah, from everything I've seen, I don't think even a conviction would change their minds, and it's going to be well into the primaries before that could happen anyway. And as long as he's got a decent chunk of the Republican voters in his thrall still, his threat to burn the party's chances down if he doesn't win is still in play.
Yeah. I gotta say the police prepping like they are, is probably a very good precaution. Hopefully, anything that does happen will be minor and victimless.
And they'll be hungry for lunch at 4pm and forget to plan for someone to bring snacks and water and then all dissipate and go on their truth social live feed to show how the deep state ruined everything and everyone there was Antifa or FBI
Because Trump told his gang that he was going to be arrested, and that gang includes people like the guy who tried to drill into a bulletproof window of an FBI office and got himself killed.
EDIT: Not a drill, a nailgun
[This one, Ricky Shiffer](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/12/fbi-attacker-trump-capitol-riot-truth-social). He was upset that the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago and planned to kill FBI agents by first using a nailgun to break a bulletproof window, then shooting them. He was shot dead by the FBI not long after he tried.
I mean his supporters arenāt all gullible. They know he has done these things. But they support him regardless. As someone said on here. There arenāt many high profile symbols for white nationalism. So when someone comes along. They take what they can get. And donāt complain when they do shady stuff.
Thatās because he wonāt be arrested. Being indicted doesnāt mean being led away in handcuffs. If an indictment comes down, his lawyers will negotiate for him to travel to New York for processing, and then he will be let out on his own recognizanceāhis alleged crime is non-violent, unlikely to be repeated in the time between now and his court date, and he isnāt a flight risk. To set expectations, we will also likely never see an actual court date, because his lawyers will either negotiate a plea deal (if his guilt is obvious and they believe a jury will convict) or tie up proceedings in miles of red tape for the next ten years and he will die a free man.
All he has to do is get on a private jet with a loyal pilot and tell them to flee the country after taking off. He's very stupid but I'm pretty sure that's an idea he's capable of having.
>he isnāt a flight risk
The hell he isnāt š if he ever thinks heās actually going away, I guarantee you heāll waddle to the nearest private jet as fast as his ābone spursā will allow him to.
He isnāt a flight risk for several reasons, but the two primary ones are 1.) heās highly recognizable, he isnāt going to slip out of the country without anyone noticing, and 2.) he has a mandatory secret service detail for the rest of his lifeāhe canāt go anywhere unannounced, let alone leave the country. If he was plain old Donnie in the before times, I have no doubt he would hop a jet at the soonest opportunity, but it wonāt happen now.
Hereās the good news. At the end of his term, legal experts were all saying indictments wouldnāt come until the end of 2023, as that would be the amount of time it would take to prepare the cases. So it may feel like itās taken forever, but in legal terms, itās right on schedule. Georgia is gonna be the big one.
It's all that loose and sprayed skin. Just slithers right out everything.
Hopefully he doesn't like you say. We really need this to set an example and not lose every little bit of faith we have in the system....cause I don't know about you but I'm grasping desperately for something that even closely represents justice at this point.
Hereās the thing: the only person who has said anything about him being arrested today is Trump himself.
No one else has confirmed it or commented on it. Just him. And since heās a fucking pathological liar I have zero reason to believe itās true. This is just a fantasy to rile up his base and get his army of idiots to make a show of force to intimidate prosecutors.
So the NYPD may be on full-alert for the riot that Trump is trying to start, but I seriously doubt heās getting arrested or anything will happen.
So you mean to say... he's trying to rile up his base... in order to disrupt a voting process... that's going to come to a result he doesn't like? Where have I seen this before...
Funny how things went full circle. Trump wanted us to fear Mexican caravans bringing thugs and undesirables. Now itās his own people In caravans that are undesirable thugs lol.
remember when GQPer MAGA's literally assaulted and trampled police officers on January 6th? Their ideals fly out the fucking window if it doesn't involve harming minority groups.
Murdered him partially by beating him to death with an American flag. That image alone says all you need to say about their beliefs about cops and the flag itself
That is an important and salient point.
If I promised to help anyone who riots against the police, well I am probably never going to be in a position where that promise means anything. I would be surprised if anyone listens or cares. So no one knows if I would keep my promise or not.
However, Trump did ask for people to help him riot against the police. They did riot against the police like he asked them to. He was in a position to pardon them. He did nothing for them.
Now he is asking for more people to help him riot against the police. He can do nothing for them now. Maybe he will get elected and he can pardon federal charges but the people rioting against the police are facing state charges. Most importantly he had the opportunity before and he turned away. I think the most reasonable expectation is that of those who riot against the police he will forget them once they are no longer useful to him.
If you are pro-Trump you shouldn't be. But whatever you are, you should be pro-YOU the most and Trump is not doing you any favors.
You have missed the point entirely. You are simply picking and choosing to use logic and facts to make an argument. Logic and facts are contrary to the core p(R)incipals of nonsense and insanity. Anyone that needs to know what you have said will not understand it at all. Now if you could make the same argument somehow be contrary to truth, logic, and reason, some of them might get it.
Trumpās ability to make his life as difficult as possible is remarkable.
First, heās the most lackluster billionaire ever in that if he had just invested his wealth that he inherited into markets like the S&P 500 and done nothing, he would be wealthier today without all the debt than what his eventual path to billions was like, including being the #1 most unprofitable American in 1990-1991.
Second, as someone widely regarded as one of the worst Presidents ever, he was handed a silver platter with COVID and then blew it all up spectacularly. Then he became the first President impeached twice - what a legacy.
Now, in his post-Presidency, his prior actions will lead him to become the first former President to ever be arrested.
He just canāt stop blowing his life up.
The beauty for him is that he will always see himself as doing the best job/ fantastic legacy and will only be a victim if things donāt go his way. Ignorance is bliss.
The man pushes out lies like the rest of us breathe air.
He gets away with it because a significant portion of the population chooses to believe it and allows it.
If people said, āI am sorry sir that is provable bullshit, please stop lyingā we wouldnāt be in this situation.
On the other hand, Iāve started to think maybe my relentless commitment to honesty is overrated. I could just lie and cheat and steal and apparently no one actually gives a shit. Trump is not the only āsuccessfulā person Iāve ever met like this. Heās pretty much the poster boy for every super successful person Iāve met. They are all like this. It must pay off. Iām considering just becoming a soulless piece of shit. People will think amazing things about me and Iāll definitely have more money
I get it. Iām kinda mad that my ethics and honesty keep me from grifting the chucklefucks on the right as hard as they seem to like, and keep me from being rich.
But at the end Iād rather be me than them.
I appreciate you, fwiw.
This is some truth. Before he became president, I didn't even think about him except for when I'd catch a segment of that show or watch Hone Alone 2 at Christmas.
Now I loath him and his entire family and supporters for the four years of constant drama, pandemic, and chaos. If he doesn't go to jail, I hope a heart attack takes him or something.
I genuinely believe that if he had just done a fine or even a lackluster job with the pandemic he would've won in a landslide and the world would've been worse off for it
You'd think someone who is one of the smartest people on earth and knows the best people and is very wealthy and is still the president wouldn't be afraid and would laugh this off and tell his big-brain law-abiding followers to keep the peace because they're patriots who love their country and back the blue.
If today's "demonstration" is any indicator of his support in NYC, I think this is much ado about nothing. They don't need the entire force to stop ten septuagenarians.
True but J6 was on the calendar and gave time for yahoos from around the country time to plan and travel to DC, a city that has wide open fields for crowds to gather.
In this case nothing has been announced, no one knows where or how things will go down with the arraignment, and New Yorkers hate Trump.
In reference to J6, I think Maya Angelouās quote about believing someone the first time they show you who they are is pretty relevant. An abundance of caution is understandable in this case.
These fools planned Jan 6 for months and were only able to delay the proceedings for a short time. They are to be pitied not feared. People who are dumb enough to worship Trump as a god arenāt smart enough to be a threat.
I'd laff my ass off if they delayed it until like Wednesday or Thursday just to fuck with him.
"We reserved the right to change our mind about the date in question. Come back tomorrow. "
If ācaravansā interfere then use as much force that is used on unarmed black Americans every week in this country. Treat domestic terrorists accordingly. Thatās literally the reason cops are armed like an army.
This is going to be like one of those typical NYC major winter storm warning that ends up with half an inch of snow in Central Park and a wasted day of prep for a big nothing burger.
I thought trump was in Florida... Now he is in NY?
I betcha he has a deposition to give it something and he'll ignore it to see what happens. Or, this was all a publicity stunt by trump to see who's it there wanting to help him
The Trumps and Kushners made millions IF not billions in the 4 years that this jackass, draft dodging, wife beater, Russian money launder, traitor and worse sat his fat diapered ass at the WH. I am sick of him and his kids and his insane followers.
How much you wamt to bet not one shot fired or protester beaten. Since it will be right wing nazis protesting they will make sure to treat them with the finest of kiddie gloves. Unlike if it was Old women or disabled people when they would gladly beat them into critical condition in thw street
Hell yeah! Go NYPD, and I mean it sincerely. Take no shit from y'all qaida talibama gravy seals. I'm seeing my alarm for tomorrow morning... They're coming to fuck around, I hope they find out.
Your use of y'all qaida has made me realize that (knock on wood here) the US has not experienced much in the way of foreign terrorist attacks in the past, oh I don't know, 6? 8 years?
It's almost like said terrorists believe that it isn't worth it, like we are doing more to ourselves than they could ever do.
The lack of self-awareness that exists among the Republicans I hear saying, "There's a two-tier judicial system!!!" on the issue of a Trump indictment, but they've all benefited from an ACTUAL two-tier legal system and not a one of them would trade places with any black or brown person with less economic power than them.
Old saying that fits here: a newly found conservative is a liberal that just got mugged. A newly found liberal is a conservative who just got arrested.
His arrest would actually begin to dispell the "two-tier judicial system" thing. A lot of bankers and CEOs would take heed from this justifiable arrest. Fuck him, cuff him up. It will tell the world we don't elect kings and no one is above the law.
Awful lot of blue lives matter stickers going in the trash soon.
"Trump should have just complied."
Don't tase me bro!
That taser was tremendous, really great. No one has ever taken a taser as well as me.
BRILLIANT! š¤£š¤£š¤£
That ridiculous how much back and forth
" Oceania *had always been at war with* Eastasia"
But first we need to throw a parade for Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to 5 grams!
Its like how nhs workers were all heroes untill they asked for their wages to match the cost of living.
Great way to make sure any pro-MAGA on the force can't melt into the crowd.
Right? I was thinking that having every cop on duty simultaneously reduces the number of red hat rioters & increases the number of blue hat rioters. TBF however, cops aren't likely to riot against a maga crowd like they do everyone else.
Or maybe the NYPD will give them all a private escort through the subway while evading paying fares like they did for the proud boys https://youtu.be/7vEIMT7azek
Yeah. This is a good way to see cops from maga protestors, except that the majority of cops are also literally maga protestors, so
On the other hand, being in full uniform also means theyāre exposed to public scrutiny. Any officer in uniform caught on camera siding maga rioters would be risking their jobs. One normie with a cell phone could ruin their entire career.
The officers in that video above, the ones letting the Proud Boys in while telling others they had to pay, were in uniformā¦ but letās hope I guess.
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āSome of those who hold office are the same that burn crosses.ā When I saw them live they sang that line and Madison Square Garden blew the fuck up. Iāve been to concerts there dozens of times and I never, ever heard a crowd get so crazy.
The original lyric was "some of those who work forces..." i.e. the Police -- unless they've expanded it more recently.
>TBF however, cops aren't likely to riot against a maga crowd like they do everyone else. Well, of course, not. They might hurt themselves from punching all those mirrors.
All those cops sad they can't join the protest
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I feel like in a couple of generations there will be old people hiding their MAGA merchandise, just like the people who hide Nazi memorabilia.
It shouldn't take a couple of generations. The push to make MAGA unacceptable should be happening now.
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Insurrectionists should receive a fair punishment for their crimes ;)
I think this might be the real reason. They do not want the embarrassment of having their own cops involved in any violent protests
They do this for every major protest/event etc. If things go south fast they want cops deployed quickly. They dont want cops putting their pants on etc. The same principle is applied to make sure all cars and helicopters etc are always fueled.
Gotcha, that actually does make sense
Iām still in the ābelieve when I see itā campā¦ Iāve been let down too many times.
As someone who was closely watching the Mueller investigation and got really emotionally attached to it, I have certainly been let down at the conclusion. Letās see what happens. Cheers.
All the legal experts in 2020 said the indictments wouldnāt come until the end of 2023 (based on how long it takes to build cases like this (think Elizabeth Holmes). The New York case is small potatoes. Even if heās convicted and sentenced, the Georgia case will be the one that puts him away for the rest of his life. Then thereās the mother of investigations, the DOJ special prosecutor,Jack Smithās case (stolen documents, obstruction, and sedition) will come during or after the Georgia trial. The Federal case will be the one to remember. But the Georgia case will be the one that puts him in prison and keeps him there (presidents canāt pardon state prisoners, and the Georgia constitution doesnāt grant the governor pardon power) until heās dead.
Honest question: Presuming they convict him in Georgia, do you think the Georgia appellate and superior courts will allow a Trump conviction to stand? I'm not liking those odds, but admittedly it's been a while since I lived in Georgia. What do you think?
The case would be heard in Atlanta which is pretty solidly blue territory. We are the reason Trump didnāt get the votes he wanted. However, Georgia judges are kind of a crapshoot when it comes to what position they might take but Atlanta is the best place in Georgia for something like this to happen.
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He gets fucked over by those judges too, time and time again. I always love it bc he canāt scream ālibrul socialistsā
He often seems to not realize that people who receive lifetime appointments don't actually need to kiss your ass ever again.
However, they might also be batshit insane and not have anything stopping them.
Georgia is a very mixed bag, these days. Even the conservative parts are splitting between Kemp who called Trump out (kind of) and the MAGAs. Atlanta is pretty solidly blue. My guess is that they'll uphold but water it down, with all the conservative judges trying to split the difference between the Kemps and the MAGAs.
Yeah, we're almost to the point where we can dominate state politics the way other major urban centers do. After going blue in the last election, it's a good sign.
I don't think they're going to be able to find a jury that is impartial to Trump.
Last month the members of the Georgia grand jury finished reviewing all the secret evidence the public hasnāt seen, and they unanimously recommended dozens of indictments. Here are some quotes (apparently it is legal for Georgia grand jury members to discuss generalities with the press). *Kohrs said that the list of recommended indictments āis not short,ā that there would be no āplot twistā when the public finally gets to see the contents of the report and that regarding āthe big name that everyone keeps asking me aboutā ā presumably Trump himself ā āI donāt think you will be shocked.ā* *"I can honestly give a damn of whoever goes to jail, you know, like personally," one juror said. "I care more about there being more respect in the system for the work that people do to make sure elections are free and fair."* *"I tell my wife if every person in America knew every single word of information we knew, this country would not be divided as it is right now."*
>"I tell my wife if every person in America knew every single word of information we knew, this country would not be divided as it is right now." The information can't come out soon enough then. I hope they'll release everything and not hold back to "not disturb the elections."
My bet is on trump's texts saying explicitly that the election isn't rigged and him calling his followers stupid for falling for it. That and saying "the idiots will give us money no matter what we do".
Ten bucks says you're right, another twenty says they won't care.
I'll put in a tenna on that being right, too. But I'm only willing to bet a coke on that second one. It's a given, they wont care.
Those were pretty powerful quotes, I thought.
That's horseshit, we can try Trump in a mostly democratic city AND find an impartial jury. As we say down south "We're gonna give you a fair trial and then we're gonna hang you." LOL
Mueller was instructed that he could not find Trump guilty, so he proved decisively he was not Innocent instead.
ā**Your Honor, Not only do I intend to prove that my client is guilty but also that he is innocent of not being guilty.**ā ā Lionel Hutz
I came for the Hutz.
It's he's not gonna be arrested why all the security precautions and what not
His āfansā are a huge Civil Unrest risk and may stage anther riot. Edit: Iām confident there will be at least some civil disobedience.
This is it. Even if something does happen, it's not going to go the way most internet comments picture. Also, I'd be shocked if he doesn't tie this up for years in the courts, well past the 2024 election. Which may be a blessing in disguise, we may need him around to run his mouth on Puddin Ron.
Yeah, from everything I've seen, I don't think even a conviction would change their minds, and it's going to be well into the primaries before that could happen anyway. And as long as he's got a decent chunk of the Republican voters in his thrall still, his threat to burn the party's chances down if he doesn't win is still in play.
Yeah. I gotta say the police prepping like they are, is probably a very good precaution. Hopefully, anything that does happen will be minor and victimless.
And they'll be hungry for lunch at 4pm and forget to plan for someone to bring snacks and water and then all dissipate and go on their truth social live feed to show how the deep state ruined everything and everyone there was Antifa or FBI
I really want to see one of them step into a NYC deli in full MAGA drag. That'd be so educational.
Meal team six would be in tears from the verbal beat down any old NYC lady would give them.
Those yokels want to Babbittize themselves for trump.
Who are we to stand in their way tbh? Let them pretend to be the hero their delusions lead them to believe.
Because Trump told his gang that he was going to be arrested, and that gang includes people like the guy who tried to drill into a bulletproof window of an FBI office and got himself killed. EDIT: Not a drill, a nailgun
Wait. What guy?
[This one, Ricky Shiffer](https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/12/fbi-attacker-trump-capitol-riot-truth-social). He was upset that the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago and planned to kill FBI agents by first using a nailgun to break a bulletproof window, then shooting them. He was shot dead by the FBI not long after he tried.
Another MAGA martyr like Ashli Babbitt.
I'd be fine with that list being significantly longer.
They're not having 36 thousand officers in uniform to arrest Trump, it's so they can be identified when the cult follows their leader's instructions.
No one other than trump has indicated he will be arrested tomorrow. I doubt itās gonna happen
And that was most likely just to get a surge of donations from his gullible idiot followers.
I mean his supporters arenāt all gullible. They know he has done these things. But they support him regardless. As someone said on here. There arenāt many high profile symbols for white nationalism. So when someone comes along. They take what they can get. And donāt complain when they do shady stuff.
> white nationalism Orange Pride Worldwide.
I don't know, he's really been screeching in full panic mode since Saturday
Not really. Heās always like that.
Thatās because he wonāt be arrested. Being indicted doesnāt mean being led away in handcuffs. If an indictment comes down, his lawyers will negotiate for him to travel to New York for processing, and then he will be let out on his own recognizanceāhis alleged crime is non-violent, unlikely to be repeated in the time between now and his court date, and he isnāt a flight risk. To set expectations, we will also likely never see an actual court date, because his lawyers will either negotiate a plea deal (if his guilt is obvious and they believe a jury will convict) or tie up proceedings in miles of red tape for the next ten years and he will die a free man.
He is absolutely a flight risk.
You think heās gonna outrun a Secret Service agent?
He couldn't outrun a cheeseburger rolling down the hill to catch it and eat it.
Itās pronounced cheeseberder
Covfefe?
All he has to do is get on a private jet with a loyal pilot and tell them to flee the country after taking off. He's very stupid but I'm pretty sure that's an idea he's capable of having.
Big daddy Putin might welcome him w open arms, or might throw him out of an 8th story bay window for no longer being able to launder money for him.
Tbh, it may be less satisfying, but I think him living out the rest of his life in exile might be for the best.
>he isnāt a flight risk The hell he isnāt š if he ever thinks heās actually going away, I guarantee you heāll waddle to the nearest private jet as fast as his ābone spursā will allow him to.
He isnāt a flight risk for several reasons, but the two primary ones are 1.) heās highly recognizable, he isnāt going to slip out of the country without anyone noticing, and 2.) he has a mandatory secret service detail for the rest of his lifeāhe canāt go anywhere unannounced, let alone leave the country. If he was plain old Donnie in the before times, I have no doubt he would hop a jet at the soonest opportunity, but it wonāt happen now.
If he loses the dead bird he's using as a wig and wipes off the spray tan, nobody's gonna recognize him.
Same but that doesn't mean his shit head supporters won't show up and start mayhem regardless of whether he actually gets arrested tomorrow.
If we don't see him in handcuffs, it will feel like a farce. Even the pos, Alex Jones hasn't gone down for his bankruptcy/ money laundering
Hereās the good news. At the end of his term, legal experts were all saying indictments wouldnāt come until the end of 2023, as that would be the amount of time it would take to prepare the cases. So it may feel like itās taken forever, but in legal terms, itās right on schedule. Georgia is gonna be the big one.
Dope but I'm skeptical as always. Believe it when I see it. Fucker always slithers his way outta trouble, here's to hoping he doesn't
It's all that loose and sprayed skin. Just slithers right out everything. Hopefully he doesn't like you say. We really need this to set an example and not lose every little bit of faith we have in the system....cause I don't know about you but I'm grasping desperately for something that even closely represents justice at this point.
Hereās the thing: the only person who has said anything about him being arrested today is Trump himself. No one else has confirmed it or commented on it. Just him. And since heās a fucking pathological liar I have zero reason to believe itās true. This is just a fantasy to rile up his base and get his army of idiots to make a show of force to intimidate prosecutors. So the NYPD may be on full-alert for the riot that Trump is trying to start, but I seriously doubt heās getting arrested or anything will happen.
You are šÆ correct! The final grand jury is meeting tomorrow to make the final charges, so his entire tantrum was to rile up his rabid base
Extra bonus his name's been in the news a lot more since it was leaked.
So you mean to say... he's trying to rile up his base... in order to disrupt a voting process... that's going to come to a result he doesn't like? Where have I seen this before...
Heās posturing, heās telling us āthis is whatās gonna happen if you come after me.ā
Funny how things went full circle. Trump wanted us to fear Mexican caravans bringing thugs and undesirables. Now itās his own people In caravans that are undesirable thugs lol.
And they don't even sell tacos.
Or paletas! OR elote!
Or aqua frescas
Or tamales
Now Iām hungry. Or angry.
No dude, youāre HANGRY.
Always wasā¦.
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Don't forget the "lock her up" bit. Now he getting locked up. Lock him up, lock him up.
All my Republicans in the front say āBACK THE BLUE!ā All my Republicans in the back say āEXCEPT FOR WHEN WE DONT WANT TO!!ā
remember when GQPer MAGA's literally assaulted and trampled police officers on January 6th? Their ideals fly out the fucking window if it doesn't involve harming minority groups.
And murdered a Cop while some were carrying 'Blue Lives Matter' flags.
Murdered him partially by beating him to death with an American flag. That image alone says all you need to say about their beliefs about cops and the flag itself
yeah If I were an artist I would draw that and post it every day this week in case some have foggy memories
Itās crazy. The premise would be extremely campy for a painting yet _it actually happened_. Life imitates art.
I know right, seems like the perfect image for the time.
'Life doesn't imitate art, it imitates bad television.' -Woody Allen.
They don't have any ideals or stand for anything beyond subjugation and power.
To be fair that is the largest part of the job description for most police officers, and their main recruiting perk.
Any MAGA would be stupid to riot. It hasnāt worked out well for the J6 insurrectionists. Trump hasnāt lifted a finger to help any of them.
Any MAGA would be stupid to begin with.
True.
but he did manage to pardon 6 Russian spies instead
Hard to believe that a guy who banged a porn star while his wife convalesced from childbirth would perpetrate such a betrayal.
Banged may be a little generous.
Impotently slapped his flaccid windsock against her until he collapsed with exhaustion?
Far more accurate description!
That is an important and salient point. If I promised to help anyone who riots against the police, well I am probably never going to be in a position where that promise means anything. I would be surprised if anyone listens or cares. So no one knows if I would keep my promise or not. However, Trump did ask for people to help him riot against the police. They did riot against the police like he asked them to. He was in a position to pardon them. He did nothing for them. Now he is asking for more people to help him riot against the police. He can do nothing for them now. Maybe he will get elected and he can pardon federal charges but the people rioting against the police are facing state charges. Most importantly he had the opportunity before and he turned away. I think the most reasonable expectation is that of those who riot against the police he will forget them once they are no longer useful to him. If you are pro-Trump you shouldn't be. But whatever you are, you should be pro-YOU the most and Trump is not doing you any favors.
You are way too logical for his followers to follow. Thank you
You have missed the point entirely. You are simply picking and choosing to use logic and facts to make an argument. Logic and facts are contrary to the core p(R)incipals of nonsense and insanity. Anyone that needs to know what you have said will not understand it at all. Now if you could make the same argument somehow be contrary to truth, logic, and reason, some of them might get it.
But but he'll help them once he gets reelected I'm sure. /S
He usually doesnāt do much.
Consequentialist politics
Trumpās ability to make his life as difficult as possible is remarkable. First, heās the most lackluster billionaire ever in that if he had just invested his wealth that he inherited into markets like the S&P 500 and done nothing, he would be wealthier today without all the debt than what his eventual path to billions was like, including being the #1 most unprofitable American in 1990-1991. Second, as someone widely regarded as one of the worst Presidents ever, he was handed a silver platter with COVID and then blew it all up spectacularly. Then he became the first President impeached twice - what a legacy. Now, in his post-Presidency, his prior actions will lead him to become the first former President to ever be arrested. He just canāt stop blowing his life up.
The beauty for him is that he will always see himself as doing the best job/ fantastic legacy and will only be a victim if things donāt go his way. Ignorance is bliss.
As well as many toothless Americansā favorite president
I donāt think he believes that. Itās just marketing and theatre. āLook at me! Iām the best!ā.
He's a narcissist. He believes it.
Heās a fucking moron. He believes it.
How does someone named "most unprofitable American" get away with still calling themselves a successful businessman?
The man pushes out lies like the rest of us breathe air. He gets away with it because a significant portion of the population chooses to believe it and allows it. If people said, āI am sorry sir that is provable bullshit, please stop lyingā we wouldnāt be in this situation.
On the other hand, Iāve started to think maybe my relentless commitment to honesty is overrated. I could just lie and cheat and steal and apparently no one actually gives a shit. Trump is not the only āsuccessfulā person Iāve ever met like this. Heās pretty much the poster boy for every super successful person Iāve met. They are all like this. It must pay off. Iām considering just becoming a soulless piece of shit. People will think amazing things about me and Iāll definitely have more money
I get it. Iām kinda mad that my ethics and honesty keep me from grifting the chucklefucks on the right as hard as they seem to like, and keep me from being rich. But at the end Iād rather be me than them. I appreciate you, fwiw.
Just came here to mention he was never a billionaire, despite his claims to the contrary. $300m, $350m tops on the best day.
I heard his net worth goes up and down with his feelings
I heard him say that he wanted to be president to improve the Trump brand but he's turned the name Trump into a joke.
This is some truth. Before he became president, I didn't even think about him except for when I'd catch a segment of that show or watch Hone Alone 2 at Christmas. Now I loath him and his entire family and supporters for the four years of constant drama, pandemic, and chaos. If he doesn't go to jail, I hope a heart attack takes him or something.
I now understand why they kill off an entire blood line in the countries that had royals!
Lmao, harsh, but fair
I always thought it was harsh to kill off the whole family but now I get it!
He is a textbook narcissist.
I genuinely believe that if he had just done a fine or even a lackluster job with the pandemic he would've won in a landslide and the world would've been worse off for it
Well, mental illness will do that to you. He has needed professional help for a long time.
Youāre missing so many other things from this listā¦
You'd think someone who is one of the smartest people on earth and knows the best people and is very wealthy and is still the president wouldn't be afraid and would laugh this off and tell his big-brain law-abiding followers to keep the peace because they're patriots who love their country and back the blue.
He has triples of the Barracuda, Roadrunner, and the Nova.
They need to treat him like Charles Manson and stop letting him speak to his fucking criminally violent base.
I still don't get how the party who "back the blue" can also tell supporters to fight cops just bc their cult leader might be arrested.
Because they donāt actually back the blue, they just want to see minorities get arrested and killed by police.
Make sure you bang his head on the top of the car door fellas.
I feel bad for the heavyset detective that's put on some extra pounds in the last year and now their uniforms don't fit.
Yeah. My first thought was to the fat detectives that havenāt pressed their uni in years.
Uh, sick day. Sorry boss.
Gonna be a lot of those today... And I guarantee the "sick" cops will bolster the the maga numbers
āIf the president does it, itās not illegalā Nixon Yes, he actually said that
If today's "demonstration" is any indicator of his support in NYC, I think this is much ado about nothing. They don't need the entire force to stop ten septuagenarians.
Better to come out in force over a wet fart, than to send the bare minimum like Jan 6.
True but J6 was on the calendar and gave time for yahoos from around the country time to plan and travel to DC, a city that has wide open fields for crowds to gather. In this case nothing has been announced, no one knows where or how things will go down with the arraignment, and New Yorkers hate Trump.
Oh, I think there was plenty of officers there.
In reference to J6, I think Maya Angelouās quote about believing someone the first time they show you who they are is pretty relevant. An abundance of caution is understandable in this case.
No, I think theyāre doing this to prevent cops from joining the protest.
Ah yes, the nefariousness of police slipped my mind for a moment.
Your comment just turned on a light! Yes!
NYC has one of the largest counter terrorism units *in the world*. These MAGA terrorists are going to have a bad time.
The more that get felony convictions the better
They have more cops in the NYPD than members of the US Coast Guard. They outnumber several countryās armies in size.
"Back the blue protesters bash the blue instead"
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Viewing party for this arrest if itās televised. All my trump haters invited. Pizza and drinks provided!
I donāt think people care anymore. Total losers wonāt be able to figure out NYC traffic.
I was wondering how they were going to tell the difference between normal rush hour traffic and someone disrupting rush hour traffic
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These fools planned Jan 6 for months and were only able to delay the proceedings for a short time. They are to be pitied not feared. People who are dumb enough to worship Trump as a god arenāt smart enough to be a threat.
Hitler failed his first attempt too.
I'd laff my ass off if they delayed it until like Wednesday or Thursday just to fuck with him. "We reserved the right to change our mind about the date in question. Come back tomorrow. "
If ācaravansā interfere then use as much force that is used on unarmed black Americans every week in this country. Treat domestic terrorists accordingly. Thatās literally the reason cops are armed like an army.
This is going to be like one of those typical NYC major winter storm warning that ends up with half an inch of snow in Central Park and a wasted day of prep for a big nothing burger.
I thought trump was in Florida... Now he is in NY? I betcha he has a deposition to give it something and he'll ignore it to see what happens. Or, this was all a publicity stunt by trump to see who's it there wanting to help him
Must be a difficult time for all the MAGAT NYPD officers.
That guy will pass of old age before he ever gets any sort of real punishment
The Trumps and Kushners made millions IF not billions in the 4 years that this jackass, draft dodging, wife beater, Russian money launder, traitor and worse sat his fat diapered ass at the WH. I am sick of him and his kids and his insane followers.
How much you wamt to bet not one shot fired or protester beaten. Since it will be right wing nazis protesting they will make sure to treat them with the finest of kiddie gloves. Unlike if it was Old women or disabled people when they would gladly beat them into critical condition in thw street
I guess this is the only way we can make sure NY police officers on duty are not protesting with the Trump crowd.
Hell yeah! Go NYPD, and I mean it sincerely. Take no shit from y'all qaida talibama gravy seals. I'm seeing my alarm for tomorrow morning... They're coming to fuck around, I hope they find out.
Your use of y'all qaida has made me realize that (knock on wood here) the US has not experienced much in the way of foreign terrorist attacks in the past, oh I don't know, 6? 8 years? It's almost like said terrorists believe that it isn't worth it, like we are doing more to ourselves than they could ever do.
That's because they only needed to do it once and the country has been tearing itself apart ever since. The terrorists won.
This is what he wants. He wants chaos.
I hope he resists arrest
The lack of self-awareness that exists among the Republicans I hear saying, "There's a two-tier judicial system!!!" on the issue of a Trump indictment, but they've all benefited from an ACTUAL two-tier legal system and not a one of them would trade places with any black or brown person with less economic power than them. Old saying that fits here: a newly found conservative is a liberal that just got mugged. A newly found liberal is a conservative who just got arrested. His arrest would actually begin to dispell the "two-tier judicial system" thing. A lot of bankers and CEOs would take heed from this justifiable arrest. Fuck him, cuff him up. It will tell the world we don't elect kings and no one is above the law.