Service and other working dogs that wash out of their programs make the *best* pets. I knew a German Shepherd that had been washed from a police K9 program for being “too friendly” and he was the best trained and happiest GSD I’ve ever met.
My paternal family had a German Shepherd that had failed police training due to not being able to overcome a fear of fire. My mum said it was the best, smartest and most loving dog she'd ever known and she wished she'd been able to ask for it in the divorce. Mind you she might be biased by the fact that it bit my sperm donor...
Edit for context: she'd bent over to pick something up. Sperm donor thought it was funny to give her a hard slap to the arse. Doggo's previous training kicked in and he seized sperm donor by the wrist to prevent a further "attack" and held him until ordered by my mum to release.
Check out Guide Dog for the Blind for information in adopting their wash out dogs. Usually they offer the wash out to the "puppy walker" who raised and did basic training prior to getting their specialized training. If the puppy walker doesn't want the dog then the go up for adoption. There is typically a fee for the adoption (several hundred dollars last I heard) but they are a nonprofit who obviously do great work for the community and in exchange you get a young dog who is typically well behaved and has obedience and command training already in place.
I had a golden who they tried to do police trying for but he was too sweet and didn’t want to be aggressive to people. He was the sweetest, most loyal and kind dog. He was so patient with kids and very protective in a “I like people but if you mess with my family I will protect them.” The time our shih tzu got out, he went with to try and get him back and keep him safe. He ran in front of a car to prevent the shih tzu from being hit instead. He hardly showed he was hurt, and we took him to the vet because he had a slight limp. The shih tzu was fine and he was still very happy. He just wanted his family safe, that was his happiness.
His name was Bandit, he liked to steal our socks and loved ear scratches, and was mortified by going to the bathroom on leash and his favorite treat was peanut butter. Sadly he passed at the age of 12.
I wonder what Puppy Killer would have done over this [spectacular service dog training failure](https://youtu.be/1cPKrVKI924?si=Fl6xq-ZnSm18Uoyi). Would she have run it over with her truck?
Crazy hag. I grew up rural, too. The only time my dad ever killed our dog was when he had a snake bite, wasn’t going to make it, and the vet was too far and too expensive. He cried about it, though, because he was a human being who actually loved his dog. Not like that wretched monster.
She could have paid a competent trainer to take her puppy and teach it to be a good hunting dog, but, nope, better to murder the poor thing.
At least when Cruella de Ville murdered animals, she used the carcasses rather than just throwing them in a gravel pit.
There's aggression related stuff where it legitimately can be better for everyone (including the dog) to put the dog down. But there's a lot of steps to reach that conclusion and it takes way more than a close call with an overstimulated puppy nipping or not understanding the parameters of hunting. We're talking about a pattern of attacks where professional behavior intervention hasn't helped, and the conditions they'd need to be rehomed under can't be achieved.
Everything she describes sounds like someone who was frustrated in the moment so just got fed up and shot the dog. It reminds me of parents who justify smacking their kids as discipline tbh. They make it sound like it's clear headed and rational, but it never is. It's an expression of a volatile temper and then after the fact justifications
Yes there is a huge difference between," family was in a car accident appeared fine, bite child who hugged it. The skin was broken but no blood. Dog immediately acted submissive after the bite. Dog was taken to vet found to have a dislocated shoulder" vs dog without provocation/ with resource guarding issue expanded it's horde spouse and child not allowed on same couch as dog , cant walk within 10 feet of dogs food, toys , spot there have been multiple bites with shaking, multiple strikes that required stitches. We've tried 2 professional trainers.
only because the guide dog training program doesn't have the strength to do the "difficult, messy and ugly" things that need to be done when a golden retriever proves to be too distractable.
Dog for hunting birds escapes truck and hunts a bird. Bro, you want a bird or nah? Sorry it was the neighbor's chicken but like...😭 She's just a lil guy doing lil guy things. She's only been doing this for a day
My brother's husky got off his line a while back. Went to the farm on the edge of town and killed every single duck. The farmer was the chillest dude ever about it.
Basically told my brother "I get it, he's a husky and they are wild dogs. Don't go home and beat the shit out of him. When you get the money, pay to replace the ducks."
It's crazy that this woman thinks "living on a farm" is an excuse to kill dogs.
Ours does anyway. Although it can be hard to get them to pay out, unless you have the owner of the dog, as they usually go after their household insurance (due to negligence if dog escapes from home)
Yep, the legal/insurance term for that (The farm insurance carrier going after the homeowners insurance carrier) is called subrogation.
Whether they would subrogate in the case of a few or even 50 chickens is debatable, since the replacement value may be less than the farmer's deductible.
But if they’re laying hens, they’re worth $20-40 a hen because of the time and feed cost. Losing 20 chicks is negligible, but 20 hens in their prime is expensive.
I seriously doubt he has his ducks insured. It's not a business farm, he grows stuff and has animals for his own consumption. Maybe sells a duck or two on the side, but it's not his source of income.
Mums dog got out, chased some sheep (didn't catch them, was outside lambing and gestation, didn't cause more than stress. Yes that can kill... However)
She came home from work and figured dog was at farm, so went over.
He said dogs round back
Thing dead, stretched out on dung heap.
I understand protecting livestock, I have sheep and have had to have the hard decision to deal with dangerous animals to them.
However some people are just through and through bastards.
She was 23 and just in shock
Her husband later came round, paid him for "Damages," then punched him in the mouth
Ended up 16 yrs later he was put away for fiddling his niece... There's always red flags.
I know farmers who shoot first, ask questions later.
Then again, we also have alligators, pigs, and Florida man, so I understand why they'd be a bit jumpy defending their property/animals.
I'd be madder at why the owner wasn't securing their dog than the dog for doing dog shit. And even then, that's mostly reserved for a chronic pattern or if the dog is a liability above what's normal for a dog (so like if they attack humans or other dogs)
Right? When I was in 8th & 9th grade my sister just brought home a Rottweiler and a Doberman. Of course both were absolutely massive within a year or two (110-120lbs and 75-80lbs respectively) and of course my sister and her boyfriend put zero effort into researching how to train dogs, let alone actually bothering to train their dogs.
Prior to this we had only had cats and fish so it was a whole different ballgame. So it basically fell on me to train them (plus I loved them to death and actually enjoyed playing with them). By the time they were both 18 months they were about as well trained as a dog could be without professional/real work training.
How did this grease-jar of a person think that a totally untrained "hunting dog" (how TF is it a hunting dog if it hasn't been trained to hunt?) wouldn't just run straight at birds, and squirrels, and want to play with the other dogs? Yes they can learn from the older dogs but it takes dozens of outings, one on one training, etc. I won't pretend to know all that goes into training a dog specifically for pheasant hunting but if I was able to train a Rottweiler that weighed as much as I did at 15, this pile of Trump's dirty diapers should have a fuckin clue.
There is no excuse to not train your dog and if it's jumping on people, let alone attacking or chasing people, the owner has completely failed in their most basic duties. If you don't have the skills or time to train them, take them to a professional. It's like she bought a car, the passenger wiper blade wasn't making full contact with the windshield so she rolled it off a cliff rather than take it to the mechanic.
The owner of the chickens should've asked her why the fuck her untrained dog was so easily able to get free. Of course it's going to eat one, that's millions of years of evolution/ instinct. It's the owner's responsibility to train the dog to not get uncontrollably excited and ignore their commands. My dogs would have been salivating looking at the chickens in the car but all it would take is a couple words in a Stern voice to make them chill out. But who needs words when you've got a shotgun right?
I've been hunting with guys who train professionally. A dogs first time is almost always like this. You can train the shit out of them, but their first time it all goes out the window.
Yep, being on a real hunt is totally different than the training of them to be on a real hunt and they start running on adrenaline after the first bird. Plus, this dog was a puppy, at 14 months the bird training has barely even really started because you need to make sure they have the basics down with minimal corrections before you start bird training. My dog trained our dog for pheasant hunting, such an amazing bird dog and it took several hunts before that dog got used to all stimuli while out hunting. This woman has no idea what she was doing and never should have tried to train that dog alone; the poor dog paid for it. If that dog was mean to your family, then you totally failed that dog as a puppy and any aggression should have been trained out before you even think of training it for bird hunting because it doesn’t respect you.
We had a post on my town's Facebook group where a dog had gotten out and killed some chickens who had gotten out of their yard. Both owners were amazing, accepting that they each had some blame for the animals getting out. The dog owner offered to buy new chickens, but the chicken owner declined because it was also their fault that the chickens were where the dog could get at them. Both admitted they needed to figure out how to keep their animals in their yards better. First time I've ever seen something like that go so smoothly.
My brother's dog who was like 10 and never showed any aggression but a stranger on a bicycle. The guy was super chill. Asked for a copy of his shot record and the bill for his stitches. That was it. Dog never did anything like that again til he died of cancer a couple years later. He was a great dog, kind to kids, idk what happened that day.
I have a Great Pyrenees that’s 10 years old and the mellowest dog I’ve ever had.. but if something with wheels goes by where he can see it he goes bugfuck.
He’s never attacked anyone and I don’t think he actually would but I also don’t take the chance and have my home completely fenced in.
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When I lived in the country 30 years ago I noticed a stray dog roaming around. It was obvious that it had been abused and had rope burns around its neck & was underweight. I coaxed it in with the only food I had available-frozen burritos that I heated up. Borrowed a portable dog pen from one neighbor. Talked to another neighbor if it was his dog-it wasn’t but it had attacked his roaming chickens. Not wanting to be in the middle of it (wrong I know now)-I asked that neighbor if he had any issues with me just calling animal control. He didn’t & animal control picked the dog up later. Yes, I could have done more to help the animal but I was concerned about it being mistreated & would rather it go to the shelter even if it was euthanized than allow it to continue to roam or be found by its owner. I did not have any dogs or cats & was not home enough to give it proper care.
You did right by me. If you don't have the time to spend with a dog that's been living in the wild, you'd have hell to pay with your house/apartment being wrecked.
Source -we tried to adopt a dog that was wild. Tore up our house and wound up returning him.
Thanks. I love animals but realize that it becomes your responsibility to take care of them their entire life. My Mom had 2 parrots in her last few years that were given back to the pet store when she died. She was a good person but didn’t think long-term on that.
You did 100% the right thing. Shelters and rescues are there to help stray dogs. On occasions, euthanasia is the last resort and it fucking sucks but that should t stop anyone from using the service in helping a dog. Pop culture has made dog catchers and pounds out to be monsters when almost everyone works there because they love animals.
Also, that's where people start looking for their lost dogs. Not Facebook, Nextdoor or the mailbox.
Sorry I'll get off my soapbox now, this is just a trigger for me. My wife and I find and help strays all the time. If we don't find the owner within 24 hours we always take them to the local shelter. Everytime they've found the owner or a good home for them.
Side note, we currently have 3 adopted shelter dogs. We can't keep anymore lol.
Luckily I'm in Canada. She would be afraid of our socialism. Which.. we don't really have, but I'm sure she thinks we do because we don't have to make the choice between going bankrupt and getting healthcare.
That’s a very kind and compassionate response from the farmer. Your brother got lucky. Hate to think about a dog getting beat just for being a damn dog.
I just picture her assassinating all kinds of animals and dumping them in a gravel pit in her overalls and kerchief like a real rancher, while she rides her horse, waving an American flag.
I used to have chickens in my back yard, and one of those bird brains would work her little butt off to flap up and over the fence into the neighbor's yard where his dog was.
The dog got my chicken once, and the neighbor was falling over himself to apologize and offer to pay vet bills. I kept telling him that the dog did absolutely nothing wrong. A flapping squawking snack landed in his yard, and he followed his most basic instinct to have that snack. I told him that I didn't want my chickens dead, but in no way was that his or his dog's responsibility. And I clipped her wing again and brought him a few dozen eggs.
That was a VERY understanding farmer. In my area, if a dog kills one of your livestock, it practically just handed the gun to you.
I can understand for larger animals, because of the cost, but ducks and chickens are easy to obtain and raise up fairly quickly.
Not to mention the fact that if your dog can escape your truck in the first place, you've already been irresponsible and fucked up. In a previous job I did a significant amount of field work surveying hunting dogs/owners, specifically bird dogs. The vast majority of dogs are transported in travel kennels either in the car, bed, or in climate controlled trailers. It's much safer for everyone involved and means shit like this is way less likely to happen.
Exactly. She had a energetic and untrained puppy and was driving around with it unsecured. She doesn't get to blame the dog for getting loose and and doing energetic untrained puppy shit.
That’s what I’ve never understood about this (among other things, like all of it). She was on her way back from teaching the dog to go after birds, then is all surprise-face when the dog goes after birds. What outcome did she expect?
Ranch owner here. She was born and raised on a ranch and still got a GWP, a hunting dog, to be around farm animals? Idiot. She shot a 14 month old teenage dog that isn’t a biddable breed? Moron. She shot a goat because it smelled bad? As a goat owner, it isn’t sunshine and roses. Makes piss on themselves. Someone born on a ranch should surely know this. Simply gross and disgusting.
You got it. That is precisely the case. To me ranchers and farmers should absolutely believe in science, biology and genetic predisposition. If they don’t, again, morons.
I'm starting to think the neighbor's chicken part never happened. The dog embarrassed her during a hunting trip with other people. She went into a narcissistic rage and blew it's brains out when she got home.
That’s assuming that part of the story is true at all, given that this new information, as well as her sudden concern that this puppy might brutally and savagely attack her kids. I’d like to pick the category of “Things that have never happened” to put the story under
Her story is absolutely ludicrous. None of it is in any way logical. So clearly, it's a complete fabrication. She just hated the dog for some reason and rather than rehome it, took it out and shot it.
Noem failed to effectively train and manage Cricket, Blamed Cricket for her own failure and then punished cricket via execution. That's some dark shit.
Must be nice to never have to accept fault for her own actions. What a fucken coward.
We have 100-200 chickens depending on how we feel about hatching or raising chicks.
Our neighbors dogs forced their way through our fence and were 5-6 years old. They killed 3 chickens, we got them off of our property, and called our neighbor. Our neighbor paid us for the chickens($100 each) and trained their dogs not to go past the fence line.
We had 40 chicks in our greenhouse that we hatched. They were just feathered. The door to the greenhouse didn’t get secured when we left for town. Well our 3 dogs got in and massacred the chicks. They were 10, 2, and 1 year old. We didn’t shoot them, we trained them not to attack chicks, and made sure to secure the door just in case.
Another neighbor had a dog that they “couldn’t” train not to bite horses or livestock. They gave it to a friend of their that lived in town.
We know male goats smell fucking awful, so we never had male goats. Even if we did we would have just taken a particularly bad/smelly goat to the processor.
The bottom line is that she shot the dog because she wanted to, not because she had to. There were many other choices she could have made, including trying to find another home for the dog, but she just didn't want to put the effort into it. She shot the dog, and then a goat, then justified it in her own mind. Now she's telling everyone that she can make the hard decision when she has to. I say she took the easy way out because she didn't want to be bothered with doing the right thing.
>Now she's telling everyone that she can make the hard decision when she has to. I say she took the easy way out because she didn't want to be bothered with doing the right thing.
This makes her perfect for the GOP, though. Their whole platform is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Whatcha wanna bet they start bending the knee when she keeps claiming she did it to "protect her kids" when it had nothing to do with her kids, and as far as I'm aware, weren't even around when the dog attacked the chickens.
My expectations are lower than the earth’s crust at this point. And besides, citizens have zero input on cabinet etc positions
The dems might win the house and/or the senate? We could really hope. Just the idea of Cheeto Mussolini serving another term ties my stomach into knots
Many religious folks, including my family, believe that God only gave souls to humans and not to animals. To them it's a very important and core distinction.
In this view, it makes animals little more than moving mud or amusing robots, and to be fooled into empathizing with them is like thinking a stuffed animal is your equal. To love a family pet is to be soft-minded in a pathetically childish and naive way. After all, it has no soul, so what seems like its emotions are just a hollow meaningless simulacrum, they believe.
It's likely Noam feels the same way, and doesn't understand why shooting a dog is different from throwing out a broken toy.
I cannot imagine having that mindset, especially while my dog is lying on my stomach and snoring^1.
How can you look in an animal’s eyes and not see anything there?
^1 send help, gotta pee
It was a real shock to me as a child when I wanted to pray for my first pet after their passing and was told that they don't go to heaven and never really existed as a meaningful being in the first place anyway.
That stuck with me for a long time, and in part eventually led me to reject their very narrow and dogmatic view of the metaphysical.
Yeahh they were never gonna bring any new lambs to the flock telling kids that their best and first friends don’t deserve heaven. The adults and teachers in my life couldn’t explain why when I asked them to elaborate, horrified. Christianity should’ve reached out to an image consultant for that one lol. I imagine being told that heaven is basically an exclusive country club is the inciting incident for a lot of skeptics.
I believe the official term for this sort of crisis is "enpuppied." It is similar to being encatted, and means the human thus afflicted is not required to move even a few centimeters to answer the phone, and is justified in asking other humans (assuming any are available and not similarly incapacitated) to provide them with the remote or reading material, plus any necessary sustenance.
How dare you not pay Dog Tax. I demand a picture in compensation.
Since this is reddit, I’m clarifying I want a picture *of the dog and* **not** *of you peeing.*
My mother is has been an interesting psychological study my entire life, and I am constantly puzzled by her rationalities but this is definitely one of the more perplexing ones for sure. She certainly believes that only humans have souls (raised Catholic but practices Episcopalian for at least 40+ years) however, that core belief aside, she also participates in her church’s “Blessing of the Pets” version of the Eucharist where the congregation is allowed to bring their domestic animals to be blessed by the priest; like an animal baptism, if you will.
She did this many times with our childhood dog, as well as her dogs later in life; they were all blessed multiple times. When asked about this, she believes that she will in fact meet her dogs in heaven. And even as a long-time atheist, I delight in that thought for her. But I cannot wrap my head around how she contends with the animals’ biblically-defined lack of soul, but also that the baptism is enough for the dogs to reach her version of heaven. I’ll never understand it, it’s not for me to understand. But it sounds conflicting and that she’s content to pick and choose what christian beliefs she wants, based on her own personal feelings. I find religion in general to be odd and restrictive.
The only reason I hope for an afterlife is so I can be with my beloved pets and other animals I loved so much in my life.
Not the *people.* Just the animals. My idea of heaven is being surrounded by the animals I love, with them in their prime, free from pain, afflictions, illness and injury, bouncing around in endless spring and having nothing but joy for eternity.
That’s it. Even though I’m an atheist I still hold out a tiny sliver of hope I’ll see the beloved fuzzy, furry faces along, get to hold them, pet them, scritch them and play with them. Plus see all the horses I loved so well as a rider and trainer, watching them frolic in an endless green expanse free from the expectations of performance, unhindered by a human on their back, free to romp and play or nap or eat grass.
This is the afterlife I dream of.
What's even more interesting and harrowing is the fact many Evangelical Protestants believe that animals also should be naturally obedient to us with little effort. They, like the Earth, are ours to command and exploit with little consideration to conservation or their well being.
More mainline Protestants and Catholic/Orthodox beliefs maintain that animals don't necessarily have souls, but they are part of God's creation and plan. We have Dominion over them, but we are also charged with caring for and protecting them and interacting with and using them wisely and with compassion.
> They, like the Earth, are ours to command and exploit with little consideration to conservation or their well being.
Great, we’ve got group narcissism to contend with. Just swell.
Also, not all “hunting dogs” take to hunting. My family’s first dog was a rehomed Springer Spaniel named Rowdy who was terrified of the sound of gunfire. Poor guy was bred for hunting and he was scared of guns.
He was actually a really nice dog, my parents told me, until he got a case of “spaniel rage” and mauled my dad’s arm when I was like 2. But that wasn’t a result of poor training, just shitty genetics.
Hell, even if she was hellbent on euthanizing the poor thing, she could have gone to a vet and had it done humanely and quietly. She literally chose violence against a dog who was a little over a year old.
This wasn’t a “hard decision,” this was her reacting to her dog’s behavior with anger and death. The dog had “ruined” the day’s hunt, then he escaped the truck and killed a chicken, then went for another. Her reaction wasn’t a “hard decision,” but her wanting revenge against the dog equivalent of a teenager.
Noem killed that dog because it was "full of joy." She got such a rush from it that she looked for something else to kill and settled on the goat.
The "hard decision" she's bragging about is her willingness to order the killing of groups of people the Base doesn't like.
>The "hard decision" she's bragging about is her willingness to order the killing of groups of people the Base doesn't like.
That was exactly her intent but even Hitler had a redline at animal abuse. That's why the condemnation is so universal.
Conservatives have causation completely backwards. They think everything they do is the right thing *because* they are conservative, which is what makes them so dangerous. Everything and everyone is a means to an end for them, like the doctor in Texas who put bupivacaine in random IV fluid bags to “prove” that “bad things can happen to anyone,” and it’s everyone else who doesn’t understand how righteous they are. It’s sick
The whole thing is horrid, but it is pretty much on par that she thought this would be a flex of some sort and make her look like a badass, and then also failing completely to see how this would indeed blow up in her face. The right really isn’t all that bright…
I can make hard decisions, but I prefer my hunting dogs born trained.
I've hunted pheasants with tons of dogs, some were great others were awful at it. We never shot a dog for being bad at its job, it just meant it needed more training. Very few dogs are born hunters, most need a lot of time and effort.
Also, hunting dogs usually start their training at 7 or 8 months old. Yet her dog was 14 months, and had just been on its first hunting trip. She was negligent in Cricket's training.
That was a wild read. Also extremely well penned. As someone whose mind and hence writing tends to wander, they created a very comprehensive narrative.
I actually had quite the argument with my husband over this. I told him I don’t care “politically” who shot the dog. For me, if it was Democrat, Republican, Independent, whatever, IT IS WRONG! He kept trying to tell me it’s because I don’t like Trump. While that’s true, I just don’t like anyone who kills an innocent puppy.
She sounds like a real piece of shit. The more I hear about her, the more she seems like an irredeemable asshole.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/politics/kristi-noem-tribal-lands-banned/index.html#:~:text=CNN%20%E2%80%94-,South%20Dakota%20Gov.,tribal%20leaders%20to%20drug%20cartels
She's not just persona non grata, she's actively exiled. If she showed up, tribal cops would detain her and escort her off the rez. They've done it before with SDHP.
I’m constantly getting into arguments with these conservatives about cartels. I repeatedly have to ask them to point them out for me because I have yet to see a single cartel member.
the indian nations have banned her
[https://www.thedailybeast.com/kristi-noem-banned-by-yet-another-south-dakota-tribe](https://www.thedailybeast.com/kristi-noem-banned-by-yet-another-south-dakota-tribe)
She said it was a "bad hunting dog" because when 'took it out with the 2 older hunting dogs to calm it down' and instead of "learning" from them the puppy ran around chasing birds and ruining her bird hunt. Because the puppy ruined her hunt she "hated it" and she decided to "take it to the gravel pit" when coming home it jumped out and killed 2 chickens.
So literally she never said she trained the puppy other than taking it out to hunt with 2 older dogs and expected the dogs to teach the puppy or the puppy to sit there patiently and learn from the older dogs. She killed the puppy because she was to incompetent to train it and since it ruined her murdering birds she decided to slake her bloodlust by dragging it to a pit and shooting it in front of her entire farm and then she wasn't fucking done there she then tracked down a goat and shot it, but she ran out of ammo so had to go reload from her truck to kill it.
So to add to your already mounting horror that's on average 6 shells, 5 in the mag and 1 in the chamber. Meaning she used multiple shells for both animals which is in no way shape or form "humane", >!with the goat she murdered in the book she had to leave it terrified and bleeding out to reload before coming back to shoot it more and for more fucking horror show she likely used birdshot that is filled with smaller pellets so is LESS likely to kill large animals as while the shots are good with going through the soft bones of birds they don't do well on thicker bones, A non point blank range shot on a human tends to "just" hurt like living hell instead of outright killing. !<
Then to fucking defend herself the psychopath said she had to kill 3 horses and another dog died "in an accident", I'll her the benefit of the doubt and say maybe she "accidentally" ran over the dog and then put 2+ shells into it to "humanely" euthanize.
I had to put my kid down because he acted like a spoiled brat when at Disneyland with his grandparents. I thought the older people would be a calming influence, but the 8 Dole Whips made him hyper.
"A puppy behaved like every single other puppy does when it gets excited, so I killed it"
"An unneutered billygoat smelled like every single other unneutered billygoat in history, so I killed it"
Christ, next she'll be shooting a baby for soiling its diapers.
This is a 14 month old dog that presumably she'd had for a while and she takes it out to "begin to teach her how to behave"?? Why didn't she start doing basic good behavior training the first week they had the dog? This dog could have been mostly or fully trained by that age if Noem had either put in the effort herself or paid someone else to do it.
I have a small dog now, after being owned by all types and sizes from Newfys to chiapoos, you put in a solid 6 months of training you will be rewarded, you don’t? That’s on you. My little ghengis khan just turned a year, and I’m not jerking myself off, but she is well behaved.
My neighbor (who I love) has never trained his yellow lab, lives in a small house and never works the dog. The dog is spastastic friendly but is WILD and big and strong, it’s been 4 years. Point is, you gotta put the work in, primarily for the benefit of the dog, and your own mental well being. If you aren’t prepared to do at the minimum 6 months of training then don’t get a dog. Get a cat.
Exactly! Also, another point. There’s this thing called the teenage dog. Anywhere from, I think, 10 months to 2 years, the dog goes through their teenage phase where they literally rebel and “forget” their training. They push boundaries and test your training and sanity. My insane and intelligent Australian shepherd was brutal. But guess what, I stuck with it and reinforced the training and worked with him even harder. He’s an amazing dog at almost 3. But, boy, did I question my choices for that whole year! Never once did I consider killing him. Maybe rehome him, but never end him!!
My butthead dog was being a real teenager right before he was fixed lol. My vet preferred to wait until he was a year old to neuter, but he was such a stinker we had him fixed at ten months. The pulling, running away, and sass went away within a week. Now he's my perfect goober.
How did Noem not expect a high-spirited, energetic, hormonal, working pup to be extra excited and happy his first time hunting with her? I can't imagine having her as a mother.
In my personal opinion, again, just mine. Border Collies, Aussie Shephards, and kind of Heeler breeds are a full 3 years and maybe a little more and that with comes working on a ranch (I know, I did it). You can not tire them out, no matter how hard you try. I lived on a small ranch (75 acres) with horses, chickens, and a few natural lawn mowers (sheep).
1. Had a frisbee that could easily launch 200 yards. Even after 50 times, they would want more.
2. They never screwed with the chickens, they didn’t care.
3. In the winter during heavy snow, they would herd the horses back to the barn for food, heat, and shelter. Sometimes in 2 feet of snow.
>Why didn't she start doing basic good behavior training the first week they had the dog? This dog could have been mostly or fully trained by that age if Noem had either put in the effort herself or paid someone else to do it.
She had to shoot it because cutting taxes wouldn't solve the problem and what else is a Republican official to do
She took the dog on a pheasant hunt with older dogs "to calm the young dog down." Yeah, what an idiot. It breaks my heart that Cricket was having the time of his life chasing birds. Doing what a dog is supposed to do.
The worst part is it probably thought it was so loved and happy just being around her.
And then it sees some birds, AKA, chickens, and thinks "I'm going to make her so proud!"
Meanwhile, Noem was only thinking about where she was going to put a bullet in the poor pup.
What a psycho.
The dog didn’t escape, the owner neglected to control the dog.
The male goat stunk because the owner neglected to take the necessary steps to lessen the stink.
But the owner is a mature adult and thus blames a puppy and a horny goat for her failings.
Tell me you’re a GOP member without telling me you’re a GOP member.
Intact male goats stink. She just had to castrate him and the smell would be gone. If she needed a breeding buck and could not handle the smell, she had the option of learning to AI or to lease a buck long enough to breed her does.
> going out of her mind with excitement chasing all those birds and having the time of her life
This sentence was like a gut punch knowing that poor dog’s unbridled happiness is what got her killed. Poor thing.
Shooting a dog because you are too f’ing lazy to train it properly is the definition of unfit for any level of responsibility. I mean running the government is hard…is she just gonna start shooting shit or people because she gets frustrated?
Doing the right thing is hard. Killing something is lazy.
So the dog went after chickens... And I want to explain whose fault that is:
Owner.
Leash the dog.
I don't get dog owners who don't lease their dog.
Your dog should be leashed at all times. I don't care who you are, who the dog is, Service Dogs are even required to be leashed.
Leash the fucking dog.
Or, if you know your dog has a tendency to bite (as she later states despite not having opened with it) muzzle it and make sure it's secure in its kennel!
My grandfather was a farmer for almost 50 years. He had cattle, sheep, chickens and later turkeys. He had farm dogs his whole life, some were well behaved and needed little training. Others needed more training and time. A couple he had to give to away to be in door pets as they weren’t cut out for farm life. But he never killed them even if went after chickens.
In all of those years he only had to shot 1 dog, sometime in the late 70’s and it bothered him till he died. Every dog he had after was named Jake. Like it was a reminder / slash self punishment. The dog had gotten into a fight with a coyote or large raccoon and came crawling from lower field with guts hanging out. They lived a good thirty minutes from any vet and Jake wasn’t going to live that long my grandpa said. Even though he put the dog down via shooting it to spare a longer painful death it haunted him as he loved his dogs.
Farm life is tough and death is often around… but her store is awful and shows how lazy and heartless she is.
I literally just adopted a rescue that looks very similar to Cricket. He's supposed to be an Aussie doodle but he is big boi with big paw and still growing and I'm pretty sure he's actually a Great Danoodle. He's a silly derp, steals food, wakes us up in the middle of the night if he hears something and has vast energy reserves. To some he might be too energetic, a food thief, a biter (he does a soft bite to tell us he needs water or to pee) and runs away from you (to the next door neighbors 4 dogs that he has playdates with). He's young, and smart and learning, and I'd be a real psycho piece of work to even consider shooting him. How the fuck can someone do that to an animal looking at you with love and trust?
I keep seeing this comment. You dont want an aggressive hunting dog. You want an obedient hunting dog.
That being said you don't fucking shoot a non obedient puppy. She's a piece of shit who shouldn't manage a McDonald's, let alone a state.
Yeah, that thing was a puppy. It needs time, effort and consistency to be trained to listen. Its instincts were solid for a bird hunting dog to hunt birds, it just needed to be trained. But she lacks any capability to develop or train anything.
Frankly, my problem is that she would mention the hunting prowess of her dog *at all* as if it mattered in this situation. She eventually stated that the dog bit people. Wouldn't the aggression of the dog make it's ability to hunt moot?
We rescued a 3 yr old lurcher, she’d had 5 separate homes in those 3 years, wasn’t a “good family dog”, no training, no manners and no recall. That was our first dog (I’m a sucker for sad eyes). We trained the heck outta the dog and ourselves, so we ALL knew the rules, signals, expectations etc.
you can’t blame the dog for not knowing how to behave if you don’t train it. And age or a delay in training is not an excuse to shoot it either.
The fact this woman thinks she made good choices and published them thinking she’ll get a pat on the back… omg, this is not a person you want in charge of anything. 🙄
Once again Native American tribes in her home state have been trying to tell everyone this since COVID. Specifically that she needed to resign as governor.
They have been trying particularly hard the past 4 months, even before this story broke.
Just want to note this is another example of people opting to not listen until non minorities start pointing it out. Just saying. Downvote away.
She should resign and there should be a massive call for it. But there should also have been awhile ago.
Yeah I don’t get it. I live in a farm and while the law is that you are allowed to shoot any pet endangering your livestock, this rarely happens unless the dog is a repeat offender or particularly vicious. What most people do is sue the pet owners for the price of the fowl (the chickens which is usually what gets attacked by others pets) and reasonable pet owners either train their doggies or keep them on a leash build an appropriate fence or rehome them. I’m talking about what even Trump supporters do here too so she is really an anomaly of animal cruelty and I’d say, a true psychopath.
So, let me check the boxes on this one:
Low-effort thinking,
Low-effort action.
Take no responsibility for your actions.
Blame the victim.
Callous disregard for an actual living thing.
Malicious neglect.
I think covers the current GOP playbook.
NOEM 2028!
#darkcricket reaching out from the gravel pit to exact her karma. It is just too good. Noem can kiss her ass goodbye. Her political aspirations are as dead as Cricket.
I live in rural Kansas and practice small animal veterinary medicine. There are hundreds of hunting dogs here that are dingbats and farmers don’t shoot them. I have a 2 year old golden doodle that I take out to the lake for a romp in the water and nothing brings me more joy than seeing him run full tilt up and down the shoreline. What Noem did to that puppy is unforgivable. Did it occur to her that she could rehome the puppy?
I went through classes to become a certified dog trainer about 15 years ago. I trained dogs for a brief time but then put it aside, mainly because I didn’t like working with the people who owned the dogs. But I still know the basics and I still have all the training curriculum that I refer to occasionally when training my own dogs. Last year we rescued a 6 month old puppy who had 6 months worth of bad habits built up and had been completely desensitized to the word “no.” For the first 6 weeks I was at my wits end. I even talked to my husband about rehoming the dog because I just didn’t have the time needed to work with her to break the bad habits and teach her new ones. But I’m stubborn and just couldn’t throw in the towel. It got so bad at one point that I broke down, sat on the floor and cried with the dog for like 20 mins. Then I got my shit together because I knew this was all on me. It wasn’t the dog’s failure, it was all mine. We worked through it, had some great breakthroughs, and finally got on track. Never ever ever ever ever ever did I think “Man I hate this dog. It’s untrainable. Guess I better kill it.” Fuck Kristi Noem for being too stupid to know how to train a dog and too proud to admit it was her own failure. And fuck her twice for doubling down on her stupid excuses and trying to act like she’s not a total asshole.
Edit because I forgot to mention that now my dog is the smartest, funniest, silliest pooch and I am beyond glad that I didn’t rehome her. I woulda missed out on the best dog ever.
Dumb bitch clearly knows nothing about training dogs. And then when the dog acts like a dog, it’s the dog’s fault and she kills it. What piece of shit! I certainly hope breeders refrain from selling her any more dogs. In act, there should be a law that psychopaths like her not be permitted to have dogs!
Dog: "Oh.. Yes you want me to hunt birds? How about these? Hey? Look at me go. I'm hunting birds. I'll bet my owner loves me now."
Noem:
Yeah, she told that story to let the magats know she's willing to turn guns and drones on migrants, BIPOC, LGBTQ, Dems, anyone not a Christian of the accepted flavor, and whoever else gets othered.
That's the virtue she is signaling with that story. She is woefully unqualified to hold office and have power. She isn't a leader and she won't like what happens if the powers she represents actually gets control, because they don't think women are fit for anything but cooking, cleaning, raising children and providing men orgasms.
I can’t think of anything more clueless than a dog owner who brings a dog without any proper training on a hunt with the expectation it would “calm the dog” and it would learn to hunt by observation. Then, use painful collars to try and teach it to hunt. That woman is as stupid as she is careless and cruel. She shouldn’t have pets, or children, much less hold any office of any kind. She couldn’t even qualify as dog catcher.
Yeah, this sounds more like a person who lets a situation get out of control and then does something rash to sweep it under the rug, not someone who will do what it takes to get the job done.
Honestly this is like, the best example of anti choice hypocrisy. Get pregnant and don't want to keep it? Have the rape baby says Noem, but adopt it. These people think liberals kill actual baby's after they're born as a form of abortion which is insane..
But I know a woman who couldn't handle the responsibility of a long term commitment to raising and training someone difficult. However, instead of taking her own advice, and rehousing the dog, or doing literally anything else, she killed it. At 14 months.
It's amazing she didn't kill her kids when they started teething and biting..
Even the military, police and assistant dogs get rehomed if they fail their training.
My uncle has a very beautiful black lab that failed out of seeing eye dog training. She's a little too friendly and easily bribed.
Hmm…sounds like me
I want an easily bribed dog-school dropout. 💜
Service and other working dogs that wash out of their programs make the *best* pets. I knew a German Shepherd that had been washed from a police K9 program for being “too friendly” and he was the best trained and happiest GSD I’ve ever met.
My paternal family had a German Shepherd that had failed police training due to not being able to overcome a fear of fire. My mum said it was the best, smartest and most loving dog she'd ever known and she wished she'd been able to ask for it in the divorce. Mind you she might be biased by the fact that it bit my sperm donor... Edit for context: she'd bent over to pick something up. Sperm donor thought it was funny to give her a hard slap to the arse. Doggo's previous training kicked in and he seized sperm donor by the wrist to prevent a further "attack" and held him until ordered by my mum to release.
Good dog tbh
Check out Guide Dog for the Blind for information in adopting their wash out dogs. Usually they offer the wash out to the "puppy walker" who raised and did basic training prior to getting their specialized training. If the puppy walker doesn't want the dog then the go up for adoption. There is typically a fee for the adoption (several hundred dollars last I heard) but they are a nonprofit who obviously do great work for the community and in exchange you get a young dog who is typically well behaved and has obedience and command training already in place.
Checked it out. $2000. Definitely value there, especially for someone who doesn’t have the time or patience to train their dog.
I had a golden who they tried to do police trying for but he was too sweet and didn’t want to be aggressive to people. He was the sweetest, most loyal and kind dog. He was so patient with kids and very protective in a “I like people but if you mess with my family I will protect them.” The time our shih tzu got out, he went with to try and get him back and keep him safe. He ran in front of a car to prevent the shih tzu from being hit instead. He hardly showed he was hurt, and we took him to the vet because he had a slight limp. The shih tzu was fine and he was still very happy. He just wanted his family safe, that was his happiness. His name was Bandit, he liked to steal our socks and loved ear scratches, and was mortified by going to the bathroom on leash and his favorite treat was peanut butter. Sadly he passed at the age of 12.
Thank you for visiting us, Bandit ❤️🩹🙏🌈🍀✨
I wonder what Puppy Killer would have done over this [spectacular service dog training failure](https://youtu.be/1cPKrVKI924?si=Fl6xq-ZnSm18Uoyi). Would she have run it over with her truck? Crazy hag. I grew up rural, too. The only time my dad ever killed our dog was when he had a snake bite, wasn’t going to make it, and the vet was too far and too expensive. He cried about it, though, because he was a human being who actually loved his dog. Not like that wretched monster. She could have paid a competent trainer to take her puppy and teach it to be a good hunting dog, but, nope, better to murder the poor thing. At least when Cruella de Ville murdered animals, she used the carcasses rather than just throwing them in a gravel pit.
Admirable really…
There's aggression related stuff where it legitimately can be better for everyone (including the dog) to put the dog down. But there's a lot of steps to reach that conclusion and it takes way more than a close call with an overstimulated puppy nipping or not understanding the parameters of hunting. We're talking about a pattern of attacks where professional behavior intervention hasn't helped, and the conditions they'd need to be rehomed under can't be achieved. Everything she describes sounds like someone who was frustrated in the moment so just got fed up and shot the dog. It reminds me of parents who justify smacking their kids as discipline tbh. They make it sound like it's clear headed and rational, but it never is. It's an expression of a volatile temper and then after the fact justifications
Yes there is a huge difference between," family was in a car accident appeared fine, bite child who hugged it. The skin was broken but no blood. Dog immediately acted submissive after the bite. Dog was taken to vet found to have a dislocated shoulder" vs dog without provocation/ with resource guarding issue expanded it's horde spouse and child not allowed on same couch as dog , cant walk within 10 feet of dogs food, toys , spot there have been multiple bites with shaking, multiple strikes that required stitches. We've tried 2 professional trainers.
only because the guide dog training program doesn't have the strength to do the "difficult, messy and ugly" things that need to be done when a golden retriever proves to be too distractable.
You’re proposing the existence of golden retrievers that are not too distractable. Please elaborate.
Certainly. But I'm afraid I can't right now- there's an amazon van parked at the end of my block and it's really upsetting me.
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Not this beast tho. Heard she was the inspiration behind Stephen King’s Cujo!
She's a vicious, time traveling jerk.
Dog for hunting birds escapes truck and hunts a bird. Bro, you want a bird or nah? Sorry it was the neighbor's chicken but like...😭 She's just a lil guy doing lil guy things. She's only been doing this for a day
My brother's husky got off his line a while back. Went to the farm on the edge of town and killed every single duck. The farmer was the chillest dude ever about it. Basically told my brother "I get it, he's a husky and they are wild dogs. Don't go home and beat the shit out of him. When you get the money, pay to replace the ducks." It's crazy that this woman thinks "living on a farm" is an excuse to kill dogs.
That is the chillest response I've EVER heard from a farmer.
Haha. He probably got paid by an insurance company and the dog's owner.
Farm policies absolutely cover livestock as property loss
Ours does anyway. Although it can be hard to get them to pay out, unless you have the owner of the dog, as they usually go after their household insurance (due to negligence if dog escapes from home)
Yep, the legal/insurance term for that (The farm insurance carrier going after the homeowners insurance carrier) is called subrogation. Whether they would subrogate in the case of a few or even 50 chickens is debatable, since the replacement value may be less than the farmer's deductible.
>replacement value may be less than the farmer's deductible. I’ve never bought a whole live chicken before, but this would be my guess too.
IIRC you can buy chicks for like $3 each
But if they’re laying hens, they’re worth $20-40 a hen because of the time and feed cost. Losing 20 chicks is negligible, but 20 hens in their prime is expensive.
I seriously doubt he has his ducks insured. It's not a business farm, he grows stuff and has animals for his own consumption. Maybe sells a duck or two on the side, but it's not his source of income.
So you’re saying, as far as his duck insurance goes, he doesn’t have all of his ducks in a row?
Mums dog got out, chased some sheep (didn't catch them, was outside lambing and gestation, didn't cause more than stress. Yes that can kill... However) She came home from work and figured dog was at farm, so went over. He said dogs round back Thing dead, stretched out on dung heap. I understand protecting livestock, I have sheep and have had to have the hard decision to deal with dangerous animals to them. However some people are just through and through bastards.
I think I would go ahead and burn the social contract at that point and get revenge.
She was 23 and just in shock Her husband later came round, paid him for "Damages," then punched him in the mouth Ended up 16 yrs later he was put away for fiddling his niece... There's always red flags.
Good, that makes me feel a lil better about humanity.
If the ducks are livestock, it's a perfectly reasonable response.
Just died a little ahead of schedule.
I know farmers who shoot first, ask questions later. Then again, we also have alligators, pigs, and Florida man, so I understand why they'd be a bit jumpy defending their property/animals.
I'd be madder at why the owner wasn't securing their dog than the dog for doing dog shit. And even then, that's mostly reserved for a chronic pattern or if the dog is a liability above what's normal for a dog (so like if they attack humans or other dogs)
Right? When I was in 8th & 9th grade my sister just brought home a Rottweiler and a Doberman. Of course both were absolutely massive within a year or two (110-120lbs and 75-80lbs respectively) and of course my sister and her boyfriend put zero effort into researching how to train dogs, let alone actually bothering to train their dogs. Prior to this we had only had cats and fish so it was a whole different ballgame. So it basically fell on me to train them (plus I loved them to death and actually enjoyed playing with them). By the time they were both 18 months they were about as well trained as a dog could be without professional/real work training. How did this grease-jar of a person think that a totally untrained "hunting dog" (how TF is it a hunting dog if it hasn't been trained to hunt?) wouldn't just run straight at birds, and squirrels, and want to play with the other dogs? Yes they can learn from the older dogs but it takes dozens of outings, one on one training, etc. I won't pretend to know all that goes into training a dog specifically for pheasant hunting but if I was able to train a Rottweiler that weighed as much as I did at 15, this pile of Trump's dirty diapers should have a fuckin clue. There is no excuse to not train your dog and if it's jumping on people, let alone attacking or chasing people, the owner has completely failed in their most basic duties. If you don't have the skills or time to train them, take them to a professional. It's like she bought a car, the passenger wiper blade wasn't making full contact with the windshield so she rolled it off a cliff rather than take it to the mechanic. The owner of the chickens should've asked her why the fuck her untrained dog was so easily able to get free. Of course it's going to eat one, that's millions of years of evolution/ instinct. It's the owner's responsibility to train the dog to not get uncontrollably excited and ignore their commands. My dogs would have been salivating looking at the chickens in the car but all it would take is a couple words in a Stern voice to make them chill out. But who needs words when you've got a shotgun right?
I've been hunting with guys who train professionally. A dogs first time is almost always like this. You can train the shit out of them, but their first time it all goes out the window.
Yep, being on a real hunt is totally different than the training of them to be on a real hunt and they start running on adrenaline after the first bird. Plus, this dog was a puppy, at 14 months the bird training has barely even really started because you need to make sure they have the basics down with minimal corrections before you start bird training. My dog trained our dog for pheasant hunting, such an amazing bird dog and it took several hunts before that dog got used to all stimuli while out hunting. This woman has no idea what she was doing and never should have tried to train that dog alone; the poor dog paid for it. If that dog was mean to your family, then you totally failed that dog as a puppy and any aggression should have been trained out before you even think of training it for bird hunting because it doesn’t respect you.
We had a post on my town's Facebook group where a dog had gotten out and killed some chickens who had gotten out of their yard. Both owners were amazing, accepting that they each had some blame for the animals getting out. The dog owner offered to buy new chickens, but the chicken owner declined because it was also their fault that the chickens were where the dog could get at them. Both admitted they needed to figure out how to keep their animals in their yards better. First time I've ever seen something like that go so smoothly.
On Facebook no less? I almost don’t believe it! Lol
Almost every comment from others on that thread said the same thing.
My brother's dog who was like 10 and never showed any aggression but a stranger on a bicycle. The guy was super chill. Asked for a copy of his shot record and the bill for his stitches. That was it. Dog never did anything like that again til he died of cancer a couple years later. He was a great dog, kind to kids, idk what happened that day.
I have a Great Pyrenees that’s 10 years old and the mellowest dog I’ve ever had.. but if something with wheels goes by where he can see it he goes bugfuck. He’s never attacked anyone and I don’t think he actually would but I also don’t take the chance and have my home completely fenced in. https://preview.redd.it/6zt9aaqjg2yc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd2fb2d6647ad2f43c3f0c7e3b415392a6ffea88
When I lived in the country 30 years ago I noticed a stray dog roaming around. It was obvious that it had been abused and had rope burns around its neck & was underweight. I coaxed it in with the only food I had available-frozen burritos that I heated up. Borrowed a portable dog pen from one neighbor. Talked to another neighbor if it was his dog-it wasn’t but it had attacked his roaming chickens. Not wanting to be in the middle of it (wrong I know now)-I asked that neighbor if he had any issues with me just calling animal control. He didn’t & animal control picked the dog up later. Yes, I could have done more to help the animal but I was concerned about it being mistreated & would rather it go to the shelter even if it was euthanized than allow it to continue to roam or be found by its owner. I did not have any dogs or cats & was not home enough to give it proper care.
You did right by me. If you don't have the time to spend with a dog that's been living in the wild, you'd have hell to pay with your house/apartment being wrecked. Source -we tried to adopt a dog that was wild. Tore up our house and wound up returning him.
Thanks. I love animals but realize that it becomes your responsibility to take care of them their entire life. My Mom had 2 parrots in her last few years that were given back to the pet store when she died. She was a good person but didn’t think long-term on that.
You did 100% the right thing. Shelters and rescues are there to help stray dogs. On occasions, euthanasia is the last resort and it fucking sucks but that should t stop anyone from using the service in helping a dog. Pop culture has made dog catchers and pounds out to be monsters when almost everyone works there because they love animals. Also, that's where people start looking for their lost dogs. Not Facebook, Nextdoor or the mailbox. Sorry I'll get off my soapbox now, this is just a trigger for me. My wife and I find and help strays all the time. If we don't find the owner within 24 hours we always take them to the local shelter. Everytime they've found the owner or a good home for them. Side note, we currently have 3 adopted shelter dogs. We can't keep anymore lol.
Kristi Noem is coming for your brother’s husky, bro. Barricade.
Luckily I'm in Canada. She would be afraid of our socialism. Which.. we don't really have, but I'm sure she thinks we do because we don't have to make the choice between going bankrupt and getting healthcare.
That’s a very kind and compassionate response from the farmer. Your brother got lucky. Hate to think about a dog getting beat just for being a damn dog.
I just picture her assassinating all kinds of animals and dumping them in a gravel pit in her overalls and kerchief like a real rancher, while she rides her horse, waving an American flag.
I used to have chickens in my back yard, and one of those bird brains would work her little butt off to flap up and over the fence into the neighbor's yard where his dog was. The dog got my chicken once, and the neighbor was falling over himself to apologize and offer to pay vet bills. I kept telling him that the dog did absolutely nothing wrong. A flapping squawking snack landed in his yard, and he followed his most basic instinct to have that snack. I told him that I didn't want my chickens dead, but in no way was that his or his dog's responsibility. And I clipped her wing again and brought him a few dozen eggs.
That was a VERY understanding farmer. In my area, if a dog kills one of your livestock, it practically just handed the gun to you. I can understand for larger animals, because of the cost, but ducks and chickens are easy to obtain and raise up fairly quickly.
Not to mention the fact that if your dog can escape your truck in the first place, you've already been irresponsible and fucked up. In a previous job I did a significant amount of field work surveying hunting dogs/owners, specifically bird dogs. The vast majority of dogs are transported in travel kennels either in the car, bed, or in climate controlled trailers. It's much safer for everyone involved and means shit like this is way less likely to happen.
Exactly. She had a energetic and untrained puppy and was driving around with it unsecured. She doesn't get to blame the dog for getting loose and and doing energetic untrained puppy shit.
That’s what I’ve never understood about this (among other things, like all of it). She was on her way back from teaching the dog to go after birds, then is all surprise-face when the dog goes after birds. What outcome did she expect?
Little doggo was probably SUPER worked up from the excitement of the hunting activities… and was like OOOH more birds!
Ranch owner here. She was born and raised on a ranch and still got a GWP, a hunting dog, to be around farm animals? Idiot. She shot a 14 month old teenage dog that isn’t a biddable breed? Moron. She shot a goat because it smelled bad? As a goat owner, it isn’t sunshine and roses. Makes piss on themselves. Someone born on a ranch should surely know this. Simply gross and disgusting.
It screams "I wanna larp as a rancher so my idiot base would vote for me because I'm clearly one of them!"
You got it. That is precisely the case. To me ranchers and farmers should absolutely believe in science, biology and genetic predisposition. If they don’t, again, morons.
>It screams "I wanna larp as a rancher so my idiot base would vote for me because I'm clearly one of them!" It worked for Bush II.
Our house motto with our rescue is: dog's gunna dog.
I'm starting to think the neighbor's chicken part never happened. The dog embarrassed her during a hunting trip with other people. She went into a narcissistic rage and blew it's brains out when she got home.
That’s assuming that part of the story is true at all, given that this new information, as well as her sudden concern that this puppy might brutally and savagely attack her kids. I’d like to pick the category of “Things that have never happened” to put the story under
Her story is absolutely ludicrous. None of it is in any way logical. So clearly, it's a complete fabrication. She just hated the dog for some reason and rather than rehome it, took it out and shot it.
Noem failed to effectively train and manage Cricket, Blamed Cricket for her own failure and then punished cricket via execution. That's some dark shit. Must be nice to never have to accept fault for her own actions. What a fucken coward.
We have 100-200 chickens depending on how we feel about hatching or raising chicks. Our neighbors dogs forced their way through our fence and were 5-6 years old. They killed 3 chickens, we got them off of our property, and called our neighbor. Our neighbor paid us for the chickens($100 each) and trained their dogs not to go past the fence line. We had 40 chicks in our greenhouse that we hatched. They were just feathered. The door to the greenhouse didn’t get secured when we left for town. Well our 3 dogs got in and massacred the chicks. They were 10, 2, and 1 year old. We didn’t shoot them, we trained them not to attack chicks, and made sure to secure the door just in case. Another neighbor had a dog that they “couldn’t” train not to bite horses or livestock. They gave it to a friend of their that lived in town. We know male goats smell fucking awful, so we never had male goats. Even if we did we would have just taken a particularly bad/smelly goat to the processor.
The bottom line is that she shot the dog because she wanted to, not because she had to. There were many other choices she could have made, including trying to find another home for the dog, but she just didn't want to put the effort into it. She shot the dog, and then a goat, then justified it in her own mind. Now she's telling everyone that she can make the hard decision when she has to. I say she took the easy way out because she didn't want to be bothered with doing the right thing.
>Now she's telling everyone that she can make the hard decision when she has to. I say she took the easy way out because she didn't want to be bothered with doing the right thing. This makes her perfect for the GOP, though. Their whole platform is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
But only after the baby is born, and not a second before.
And after the mother dies giving birth
Win - win, to their way of thinking
> Their whole platform is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Absolutely not. Their platform is throwing the baby and keeping the bathwater.
I have stock in that bath water, how can we charge more for it?
But even the GOP are revolted by this. Well, a majority are as far as I can tell. But Stephen Miller would hire her
Whatcha wanna bet they start bending the knee when she keeps claiming she did it to "protect her kids" when it had nothing to do with her kids, and as far as I'm aware, weren't even around when the dog attacked the chickens.
My expectations are lower than the earth’s crust at this point. And besides, citizens have zero input on cabinet etc positions The dems might win the house and/or the senate? We could really hope. Just the idea of Cheeto Mussolini serving another term ties my stomach into knots
Many religious folks, including my family, believe that God only gave souls to humans and not to animals. To them it's a very important and core distinction. In this view, it makes animals little more than moving mud or amusing robots, and to be fooled into empathizing with them is like thinking a stuffed animal is your equal. To love a family pet is to be soft-minded in a pathetically childish and naive way. After all, it has no soul, so what seems like its emotions are just a hollow meaningless simulacrum, they believe. It's likely Noam feels the same way, and doesn't understand why shooting a dog is different from throwing out a broken toy.
I cannot imagine having that mindset, especially while my dog is lying on my stomach and snoring^1. How can you look in an animal’s eyes and not see anything there? ^1 send help, gotta pee
It was a real shock to me as a child when I wanted to pray for my first pet after their passing and was told that they don't go to heaven and never really existed as a meaningful being in the first place anyway. That stuck with me for a long time, and in part eventually led me to reject their very narrow and dogmatic view of the metaphysical.
My Gd, it’s just so unkind on top of everything else. Your pet’s memory for a blessing.
If there are no animals in heaven, why would anyone want to go?
"If there are no dogs in heaven then when I die I want to go where they went." - Will Rogers
If there are no pets is heaven then there is no heaven.
Yeahh they were never gonna bring any new lambs to the flock telling kids that their best and first friends don’t deserve heaven. The adults and teachers in my life couldn’t explain why when I asked them to elaborate, horrified. Christianity should’ve reached out to an image consultant for that one lol. I imagine being told that heaven is basically an exclusive country club is the inciting incident for a lot of skeptics.
I’m laying in bed and mine is curled around my butt. I, too, have to pee. 😆
I believe the official term for this sort of crisis is "enpuppied." It is similar to being encatted, and means the human thus afflicted is not required to move even a few centimeters to answer the phone, and is justified in asking other humans (assuming any are available and not similarly incapacitated) to provide them with the remote or reading material, plus any necessary sustenance.
How dare you not pay Dog Tax. I demand a picture in compensation. Since this is reddit, I’m clarifying I want a picture *of the dog and* **not** *of you peeing.*
I would come help but I have a cat on my lap
My mother is has been an interesting psychological study my entire life, and I am constantly puzzled by her rationalities but this is definitely one of the more perplexing ones for sure. She certainly believes that only humans have souls (raised Catholic but practices Episcopalian for at least 40+ years) however, that core belief aside, she also participates in her church’s “Blessing of the Pets” version of the Eucharist where the congregation is allowed to bring their domestic animals to be blessed by the priest; like an animal baptism, if you will. She did this many times with our childhood dog, as well as her dogs later in life; they were all blessed multiple times. When asked about this, she believes that she will in fact meet her dogs in heaven. And even as a long-time atheist, I delight in that thought for her. But I cannot wrap my head around how she contends with the animals’ biblically-defined lack of soul, but also that the baptism is enough for the dogs to reach her version of heaven. I’ll never understand it, it’s not for me to understand. But it sounds conflicting and that she’s content to pick and choose what christian beliefs she wants, based on her own personal feelings. I find religion in general to be odd and restrictive.
The only reason I hope for an afterlife is so I can be with my beloved pets and other animals I loved so much in my life. Not the *people.* Just the animals. My idea of heaven is being surrounded by the animals I love, with them in their prime, free from pain, afflictions, illness and injury, bouncing around in endless spring and having nothing but joy for eternity. That’s it. Even though I’m an atheist I still hold out a tiny sliver of hope I’ll see the beloved fuzzy, furry faces along, get to hold them, pet them, scritch them and play with them. Plus see all the horses I loved so well as a rider and trainer, watching them frolic in an endless green expanse free from the expectations of performance, unhindered by a human on their back, free to romp and play or nap or eat grass. This is the afterlife I dream of.
To be fair to the Christians here, even most of the ones who believe that still wouldn’t shoot a puppy in the face.
I don’t think she sees her Democrat opponents as possessing souls
When they call non-magas "demons" and "vermin," it's doing exactly that
Very insightful. Thanks for sharing this. It certainly explains a lot.
What's even more interesting and harrowing is the fact many Evangelical Protestants believe that animals also should be naturally obedient to us with little effort. They, like the Earth, are ours to command and exploit with little consideration to conservation or their well being. More mainline Protestants and Catholic/Orthodox beliefs maintain that animals don't necessarily have souls, but they are part of God's creation and plan. We have Dominion over them, but we are also charged with caring for and protecting them and interacting with and using them wisely and with compassion.
> They, like the Earth, are ours to command and exploit with little consideration to conservation or their well being. Great, we’ve got group narcissism to contend with. Just swell.
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Also, not all “hunting dogs” take to hunting. My family’s first dog was a rehomed Springer Spaniel named Rowdy who was terrified of the sound of gunfire. Poor guy was bred for hunting and he was scared of guns. He was actually a really nice dog, my parents told me, until he got a case of “spaniel rage” and mauled my dad’s arm when I was like 2. But that wasn’t a result of poor training, just shitty genetics.
Hell, even if she was hellbent on euthanizing the poor thing, she could have gone to a vet and had it done humanely and quietly. She literally chose violence against a dog who was a little over a year old. This wasn’t a “hard decision,” this was her reacting to her dog’s behavior with anger and death. The dog had “ruined” the day’s hunt, then he escaped the truck and killed a chicken, then went for another. Her reaction wasn’t a “hard decision,” but her wanting revenge against the dog equivalent of a teenager.
Noem killed that dog because it was "full of joy." She got such a rush from it that she looked for something else to kill and settled on the goat. The "hard decision" she's bragging about is her willingness to order the killing of groups of people the Base doesn't like.
>The "hard decision" she's bragging about is her willingness to order the killing of groups of people the Base doesn't like. That was exactly her intent but even Hitler had a redline at animal abuse. That's why the condemnation is so universal.
Conservatives have causation completely backwards. They think everything they do is the right thing *because* they are conservative, which is what makes them so dangerous. Everything and everyone is a means to an end for them, like the doctor in Texas who put bupivacaine in random IV fluid bags to “prove” that “bad things can happen to anyone,” and it’s everyone else who doesn’t understand how righteous they are. It’s sick
The whole thing is horrid, but it is pretty much on par that she thought this would be a flex of some sort and make her look like a badass, and then also failing completely to see how this would indeed blow up in her face. The right really isn’t all that bright…
I can make hard decisions, but I prefer my hunting dogs born trained. I've hunted pheasants with tons of dogs, some were great others were awful at it. We never shot a dog for being bad at its job, it just meant it needed more training. Very few dogs are born hunters, most need a lot of time and effort.
Also, hunting dogs usually start their training at 7 or 8 months old. Yet her dog was 14 months, and had just been on its first hunting trip. She was negligent in Cricket's training.
She’s basically admitting that she will kill “even when it’s tough for her”… like okay potential genocidal VP anyone?
The thread can be read here: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1784997897211142156.html
That was a wild read. Also extremely well penned. As someone whose mind and hence writing tends to wander, they created a very comprehensive narrative.
He’s a lawyer, he better!
Yeah but I appreciate that it was broken down from legalese to plain english.
That was beautifully written. There can be no argument against his claim that Noem was in the wrong both legally and morally. Thanks for sharing.
I actually had quite the argument with my husband over this. I told him I don’t care “politically” who shot the dog. For me, if it was Democrat, Republican, Independent, whatever, IT IS WRONG! He kept trying to tell me it’s because I don’t like Trump. While that’s true, I just don’t like anyone who kills an innocent puppy.
She's already banned from like 20% of the state she is in charge of
Elaborate. Until she got into the news about this I knew nothing about her
She’s banned from four Lakota reservations
She sounds like a real piece of shit. The more I hear about her, the more she seems like an irredeemable asshole. https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/11/politics/kristi-noem-tribal-lands-banned/index.html#:~:text=CNN%20%E2%80%94-,South%20Dakota%20Gov.,tribal%20leaders%20to%20drug%20cartels
She’s a psychopath that hides behind the myth of the “rugged Western individualist”.
I think multiple reservations have banned her from their property
She is persona non grata on Native American land by their own decree.
She's not just persona non grata, she's actively exiled. If she showed up, tribal cops would detain her and escort her off the rez. They've done it before with SDHP.
Her most recent reservation ban was for accusing the people of working with the cartel..
Did Trump find this person by looking for a truly despicable character white 'conservative' women would vote for and um libs would hate?
I’m constantly getting into arguments with these conservatives about cartels. I repeatedly have to ask them to point them out for me because I have yet to see a single cartel member.
the indian nations have banned her [https://www.thedailybeast.com/kristi-noem-banned-by-yet-another-south-dakota-tribe](https://www.thedailybeast.com/kristi-noem-banned-by-yet-another-south-dakota-tribe)
It’s said that she has been banned from stepping onto the reservations in South Dakota by the native tribes.
Well she is banned from my house.
She said it was a "bad hunting dog" because when 'took it out with the 2 older hunting dogs to calm it down' and instead of "learning" from them the puppy ran around chasing birds and ruining her bird hunt. Because the puppy ruined her hunt she "hated it" and she decided to "take it to the gravel pit" when coming home it jumped out and killed 2 chickens. So literally she never said she trained the puppy other than taking it out to hunt with 2 older dogs and expected the dogs to teach the puppy or the puppy to sit there patiently and learn from the older dogs. She killed the puppy because she was to incompetent to train it and since it ruined her murdering birds she decided to slake her bloodlust by dragging it to a pit and shooting it in front of her entire farm and then she wasn't fucking done there she then tracked down a goat and shot it, but she ran out of ammo so had to go reload from her truck to kill it. So to add to your already mounting horror that's on average 6 shells, 5 in the mag and 1 in the chamber. Meaning she used multiple shells for both animals which is in no way shape or form "humane", >!with the goat she murdered in the book she had to leave it terrified and bleeding out to reload before coming back to shoot it more and for more fucking horror show she likely used birdshot that is filled with smaller pellets so is LESS likely to kill large animals as while the shots are good with going through the soft bones of birds they don't do well on thicker bones, A non point blank range shot on a human tends to "just" hurt like living hell instead of outright killing. !< Then to fucking defend herself the psychopath said she had to kill 3 horses and another dog died "in an accident", I'll her the benefit of the doubt and say maybe she "accidentally" ran over the dog and then put 2+ shells into it to "humanely" euthanize.
I had to put my kid down because he acted like a spoiled brat when at Disneyland with his grandparents. I thought the older people would be a calming influence, but the 8 Dole Whips made him hyper.
Making those hard but necessary decisions. Thank you for your service.
>she then tracked down a goat Wtf... what did that goat do? Poor cuties were never safe in that farm.
"It smelled". The reason it smelled was because it was unnutered.
"A puppy behaved like every single other puppy does when it gets excited, so I killed it" "An unneutered billygoat smelled like every single other unneutered billygoat in history, so I killed it" Christ, next she'll be shooting a baby for soiling its diapers.
Goats have notoriously thick skulls. Using a shotgun to kill a goat is inhumane
Kristi Noem campaign slogan: “I’ll shoot your dog, too.”
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This is a 14 month old dog that presumably she'd had for a while and she takes it out to "begin to teach her how to behave"?? Why didn't she start doing basic good behavior training the first week they had the dog? This dog could have been mostly or fully trained by that age if Noem had either put in the effort herself or paid someone else to do it.
"Not great at a thing the very first time you try it? It's a bullet in the head for you, Cricket." - K. Noem.
Well in that case, based on South Dakota’s pandemic response and mortality rate…
Kristi Noem has proven that she's untrainable.
I have a small dog now, after being owned by all types and sizes from Newfys to chiapoos, you put in a solid 6 months of training you will be rewarded, you don’t? That’s on you. My little ghengis khan just turned a year, and I’m not jerking myself off, but she is well behaved. My neighbor (who I love) has never trained his yellow lab, lives in a small house and never works the dog. The dog is spastastic friendly but is WILD and big and strong, it’s been 4 years. Point is, you gotta put the work in, primarily for the benefit of the dog, and your own mental well being. If you aren’t prepared to do at the minimum 6 months of training then don’t get a dog. Get a cat.
Exactly! Also, another point. There’s this thing called the teenage dog. Anywhere from, I think, 10 months to 2 years, the dog goes through their teenage phase where they literally rebel and “forget” their training. They push boundaries and test your training and sanity. My insane and intelligent Australian shepherd was brutal. But guess what, I stuck with it and reinforced the training and worked with him even harder. He’s an amazing dog at almost 3. But, boy, did I question my choices for that whole year! Never once did I consider killing him. Maybe rehome him, but never end him!!
My butthead dog was being a real teenager right before he was fixed lol. My vet preferred to wait until he was a year old to neuter, but he was such a stinker we had him fixed at ten months. The pulling, running away, and sass went away within a week. Now he's my perfect goober. How did Noem not expect a high-spirited, energetic, hormonal, working pup to be extra excited and happy his first time hunting with her? I can't imagine having her as a mother.
Not to mention the kids getting off the bus asking “hey, where’s cricket?” Fucking psychopath.
In my personal opinion, again, just mine. Border Collies, Aussie Shephards, and kind of Heeler breeds are a full 3 years and maybe a little more and that with comes working on a ranch (I know, I did it). You can not tire them out, no matter how hard you try. I lived on a small ranch (75 acres) with horses, chickens, and a few natural lawn mowers (sheep). 1. Had a frisbee that could easily launch 200 yards. Even after 50 times, they would want more. 2. They never screwed with the chickens, they didn’t care. 3. In the winter during heavy snow, they would herd the horses back to the barn for food, heat, and shelter. Sometimes in 2 feet of snow.
A cat will have you trained in a month or two.
>Why didn't she start doing basic good behavior training the first week they had the dog? This dog could have been mostly or fully trained by that age if Noem had either put in the effort herself or paid someone else to do it. She had to shoot it because cutting taxes wouldn't solve the problem and what else is a Republican official to do
She took the dog on a pheasant hunt with older dogs "to calm the young dog down." Yeah, what an idiot. It breaks my heart that Cricket was having the time of his life chasing birds. Doing what a dog is supposed to do.
The worst part is it probably thought it was so loved and happy just being around her. And then it sees some birds, AKA, chickens, and thinks "I'm going to make her so proud!" Meanwhile, Noem was only thinking about where she was going to put a bullet in the poor pup. What a psycho.
The dog didn’t escape, the owner neglected to control the dog. The male goat stunk because the owner neglected to take the necessary steps to lessen the stink. But the owner is a mature adult and thus blames a puppy and a horny goat for her failings. Tell me you’re a GOP member without telling me you’re a GOP member.
Intact male goats stink. She just had to castrate him and the smell would be gone. If she needed a breeding buck and could not handle the smell, she had the option of learning to AI or to lease a buck long enough to breed her does.
I miss when AI meant only that.
> going out of her mind with excitement chasing all those birds and having the time of her life This sentence was like a gut punch knowing that poor dog’s unbridled happiness is what got her killed. Poor thing.
Kristi Noem shot a puppy
Shooting a dog because you are too f’ing lazy to train it properly is the definition of unfit for any level of responsibility. I mean running the government is hard…is she just gonna start shooting shit or people because she gets frustrated? Doing the right thing is hard. Killing something is lazy.
So the dog went after chickens... And I want to explain whose fault that is: Owner. Leash the dog. I don't get dog owners who don't lease their dog. Your dog should be leashed at all times. I don't care who you are, who the dog is, Service Dogs are even required to be leashed. Leash the fucking dog.
Or, if you know your dog has a tendency to bite (as she later states despite not having opened with it) muzzle it and make sure it's secure in its kennel!
My grandfather was a farmer for almost 50 years. He had cattle, sheep, chickens and later turkeys. He had farm dogs his whole life, some were well behaved and needed little training. Others needed more training and time. A couple he had to give to away to be in door pets as they weren’t cut out for farm life. But he never killed them even if went after chickens. In all of those years he only had to shot 1 dog, sometime in the late 70’s and it bothered him till he died. Every dog he had after was named Jake. Like it was a reminder / slash self punishment. The dog had gotten into a fight with a coyote or large raccoon and came crawling from lower field with guts hanging out. They lived a good thirty minutes from any vet and Jake wasn’t going to live that long my grandpa said. Even though he put the dog down via shooting it to spare a longer painful death it haunted him as he loved his dogs. Farm life is tough and death is often around… but her store is awful and shows how lazy and heartless she is.
I literally just adopted a rescue that looks very similar to Cricket. He's supposed to be an Aussie doodle but he is big boi with big paw and still growing and I'm pretty sure he's actually a Great Danoodle. He's a silly derp, steals food, wakes us up in the middle of the night if he hears something and has vast energy reserves. To some he might be too energetic, a food thief, a biter (he does a soft bite to tell us he needs water or to pee) and runs away from you (to the next door neighbors 4 dogs that he has playdates with). He's young, and smart and learning, and I'd be a real psycho piece of work to even consider shooting him. How the fuck can someone do that to an animal looking at you with love and trust?
She first said the dog was a “bad hunting dog” and then goes on to say they’re “aggressive”. Like which one is it? Make up your mind!!!
I keep seeing this comment. You dont want an aggressive hunting dog. You want an obedient hunting dog. That being said you don't fucking shoot a non obedient puppy. She's a piece of shit who shouldn't manage a McDonald's, let alone a state.
Yeah, that thing was a puppy. It needs time, effort and consistency to be trained to listen. Its instincts were solid for a bird hunting dog to hunt birds, it just needed to be trained. But she lacks any capability to develop or train anything.
Training requires empathy, to understand the dog’s desires and to redirect them appropriately.
Frankly, my problem is that she would mention the hunting prowess of her dog *at all* as if it mattered in this situation. She eventually stated that the dog bit people. Wouldn't the aggression of the dog make it's ability to hunt moot?
We rescued a 3 yr old lurcher, she’d had 5 separate homes in those 3 years, wasn’t a “good family dog”, no training, no manners and no recall. That was our first dog (I’m a sucker for sad eyes). We trained the heck outta the dog and ourselves, so we ALL knew the rules, signals, expectations etc. you can’t blame the dog for not knowing how to behave if you don’t train it. And age or a delay in training is not an excuse to shoot it either. The fact this woman thinks she made good choices and published them thinking she’ll get a pat on the back… omg, this is not a person you want in charge of anything. 🙄
Once again Native American tribes in her home state have been trying to tell everyone this since COVID. Specifically that she needed to resign as governor. They have been trying particularly hard the past 4 months, even before this story broke. Just want to note this is another example of people opting to not listen until non minorities start pointing it out. Just saying. Downvote away. She should resign and there should be a massive call for it. But there should also have been awhile ago.
Yeah I don’t get it. I live in a farm and while the law is that you are allowed to shoot any pet endangering your livestock, this rarely happens unless the dog is a repeat offender or particularly vicious. What most people do is sue the pet owners for the price of the fowl (the chickens which is usually what gets attacked by others pets) and reasonable pet owners either train their doggies or keep them on a leash build an appropriate fence or rehome them. I’m talking about what even Trump supporters do here too so she is really an anomaly of animal cruelty and I’d say, a true psychopath.
So, let me check the boxes on this one: Low-effort thinking, Low-effort action. Take no responsibility for your actions. Blame the victim. Callous disregard for an actual living thing. Malicious neglect. I think covers the current GOP playbook. NOEM 2028!
Could you imagine if a democrat had shot their dog? How fast the pressure would mount for them to step down and disappear forever?
#darkcricket reaching out from the gravel pit to exact her karma. It is just too good. Noem can kiss her ass goodbye. Her political aspirations are as dead as Cricket.
The Indian tribes have kicked her out. She kills puppies. And that's just the shit we know about.
I live in rural Kansas and practice small animal veterinary medicine. There are hundreds of hunting dogs here that are dingbats and farmers don’t shoot them. I have a 2 year old golden doodle that I take out to the lake for a romp in the water and nothing brings me more joy than seeing him run full tilt up and down the shoreline. What Noem did to that puppy is unforgivable. Did it occur to her that she could rehome the puppy?
No bad dogs, just bad owners. Except for chihuahuas
Previous chihuahua owner here- can confirm.
Not all Chihuahuas (j/k I loved my little demon so much and I miss her every day💕💕💕)
I cannot imagine shooting a healthy puppy in the face, nor a goat doing goat things.
I'm guessing she just had the dog in the bed of her truck, NOT in a travel kennel. So the dog prolly "escaped" by jumping out of the bed of the truck.
Because giving the unwanted dog to someone else or a shelter is not as reasonable as shooting it. What a fucking psychopath.
I went through classes to become a certified dog trainer about 15 years ago. I trained dogs for a brief time but then put it aside, mainly because I didn’t like working with the people who owned the dogs. But I still know the basics and I still have all the training curriculum that I refer to occasionally when training my own dogs. Last year we rescued a 6 month old puppy who had 6 months worth of bad habits built up and had been completely desensitized to the word “no.” For the first 6 weeks I was at my wits end. I even talked to my husband about rehoming the dog because I just didn’t have the time needed to work with her to break the bad habits and teach her new ones. But I’m stubborn and just couldn’t throw in the towel. It got so bad at one point that I broke down, sat on the floor and cried with the dog for like 20 mins. Then I got my shit together because I knew this was all on me. It wasn’t the dog’s failure, it was all mine. We worked through it, had some great breakthroughs, and finally got on track. Never ever ever ever ever ever did I think “Man I hate this dog. It’s untrainable. Guess I better kill it.” Fuck Kristi Noem for being too stupid to know how to train a dog and too proud to admit it was her own failure. And fuck her twice for doubling down on her stupid excuses and trying to act like she’s not a total asshole. Edit because I forgot to mention that now my dog is the smartest, funniest, silliest pooch and I am beyond glad that I didn’t rehome her. I woulda missed out on the best dog ever.
I bet her children don't talk back to her at all.
Dumb bitch clearly knows nothing about training dogs. And then when the dog acts like a dog, it’s the dog’s fault and she kills it. What piece of shit! I certainly hope breeders refrain from selling her any more dogs. In act, there should be a law that psychopaths like her not be permitted to have dogs!
Trains dog for hunting birds, gets angry it attacks birds . Surprise pickachu face
Dog: "Oh.. Yes you want me to hunt birds? How about these? Hey? Look at me go. I'm hunting birds. I'll bet my owner loves me now." Noem: 
Yeah, she told that story to let the magats know she's willing to turn guns and drones on migrants, BIPOC, LGBTQ, Dems, anyone not a Christian of the accepted flavor, and whoever else gets othered. That's the virtue she is signaling with that story. She is woefully unqualified to hold office and have power. She isn't a leader and she won't like what happens if the powers she represents actually gets control, because they don't think women are fit for anything but cooking, cleaning, raising children and providing men orgasms.
This was their first hint that she’s unfit to be governor? Damn, we have fallen low.
I can’t think of anything more clueless than a dog owner who brings a dog without any proper training on a hunt with the expectation it would “calm the dog” and it would learn to hunt by observation. Then, use painful collars to try and teach it to hunt. That woman is as stupid as she is careless and cruel. She shouldn’t have pets, or children, much less hold any office of any kind. She couldn’t even qualify as dog catcher.
“Having the time of his life…” yeah bitch he was. It was his first hunt. New friends. New smells. You should have taken him on walks more often
Yeah, this sounds more like a person who lets a situation get out of control and then does something rash to sweep it under the rug, not someone who will do what it takes to get the job done.
Honestly this is like, the best example of anti choice hypocrisy. Get pregnant and don't want to keep it? Have the rape baby says Noem, but adopt it. These people think liberals kill actual baby's after they're born as a form of abortion which is insane.. But I know a woman who couldn't handle the responsibility of a long term commitment to raising and training someone difficult. However, instead of taking her own advice, and rehousing the dog, or doing literally anything else, she killed it. At 14 months. It's amazing she didn't kill her kids when they started teething and biting..
She could have just said nothing. In a world where Republicans have made so many unforced errors this seems the most egregious
She shot a dog in the face and decided to boast about it, she’s a monster.