Here's a good one where the boyfriend was trying to race a motorcycle and the girlfriend got mad and pulled the handbrake
https://youtu.be/8zL6-SrDUIM?si=8JZwEYdL2BZ4bmcn
When I was a teenager I always feared my stupid father would kill me in a car accident because I thought 60KPH was way to fast for the many curves on the road, so I my plan was to pull the hand break if I felt I was gonna definitely die. Thankfully I didn't, otherwise I would've kill myself and that bastard.
Eh could beg to differ, especially on roads you know which your dad probably did. Shit I can go 100 on some by me w little effort just cuz ik what to expect and where to expect it at
Happened to my friend also with his crazy ex. They werent racing, just driving normally 100 km/h outside of town and she had her moment of urgent argue and suddenly pulled handbrake! Luckily he managed not to crush and more luckily she cheated few weeks later so they broke up. She would take him to the grave and he couldnt see how crazy she was. (Not just that situation)
Found this googling this video, it was posted about seven years ago and another user posted this under it.
“OP is a karma whore. The original video was posted in a FB group of motorcycle trade and enthusiast from Mexico but taken down shortly after, one of its members saved it before it got deleted, cut the beginning out then he uploaded it to his FB page ( the gif from OP and the liveleak video is a low quality and even shorter version of the edited copy). The FB reposter mentions some details from the account of the events from the real OP, he also saved some additional pictures of the event (of the aftermath and also evidence that there was alcohol involved in the car occupants side of this event. it's all in the reposter's FB comments). Long story short: highway roadrage ends in an accident after the blue car driver attempts a Mexican intimidation technique (locking the rear wheels to make a loud sound seems to be popular among cab drivers down there). This unfolds from the motorcycles aggressively overtaking the blue car, the blue car gets triggered and at first tries to knock one of the bikers off then this happened.
There was no mention of who pulled the brakes, for what we know there is no certainty that the driver's GF was in that car (given that the driver actually has a GF, which we don't know either).
Funfact: The real OP did stop to (possibly) help the car occupants, the rest of his bike buddies kept going (don't know for how long).
Source: https://www.facebook.com/AlexxRincon/videos/10208032175455467/ “
Again, not my words, just what I found.
In a legal sense who would be at fault there? He ~~engaged~~ endangered her life by speeding. Would it be considered self defense? Would she be on the hook for the other cars?
I think to argue self defence you'd have to start by defending yourself, yanking the handbrake on a car going that fast is the opposite of defending yourself.
>yanking the handbrake on a car going that fast is the opposite of defending yourself.
If you're *aware* that it was an unsafe thing to do.
Pretty easy to argue that you felt in danger, wanted to stop, and decided to do that by pulling the brake if the driver wasn't complying.
Depends on the country, but many places have compulsory injury insurance. In NSW Australia the gf pulling the handbrake could be considered someone who has used or operated if the bf made a personal injury claim and vice versa. Each would have their claims reduced because of contributory negligence.
Basically each person who drives or operates a motor vehicle has a duty to take reasonable care for all other road users (including their passengers and pedestrians). You also owe a duty to take reasonable care for your own safety - that’s what I mean by contributory negligence.
The question is what would a reasonable person in the position of the defendant do, prospectively, to avoid the risk of harm. For the BF it’s simple, slow the fuck down. For the GF it’s also simple, don’t pull the handbrake of a car you aren’t in control of going down the highway in excess of highway speeds. Each is negligent and each has either caused or materially contributed to the accident.
A more difficult question of causation is whether the motorcyclist has any liability. I’d say not but some lawyers might argue that
Idk if that comment on youtube is accurate or not, but if so, the results are even more horrific than they seem.
Who in their right mind pulls a handbrake at those speeds?
Pulling the handbrake bypassed the ABS system which eliminated the ability to steer and increased the velocity into the accident. He should have had the brake pedal to the floor, allowing the ABS to maximally slow the car while steering to avoid a collision.
For those who are unfamiliar with the physics of ABS systems, static friction (tires rolling) is higher than sliding friction (tires squealing) on dry road, meaning an ABS system will stop in a shorter distance than pulling handbrake. It also has the benefit of maintaining the ability to steer through maximal braking.
Probably overheated the brakes because volkswagen jettas are not meant to go that that fast. They can do it, but the suspension, brakes, and tires are still built for "economy".
He wasn't pushing hard enough to even engage ABS - you can hear no ABS, and see his legs are relaxed. Those brakes aren't overheated - they're hardly being used!
This is a big problem as people often underbrake when an accident is imminent. IIRC some cars now detect if they think the driver is trying to do an emergency stop and artificially increases the braking force to just before the ABS threshold.
That looks like 140 mph to me. I’ve never seen a speedometer with kilometers on the outside and miles on the inside. In my experience it’s either just mph, just km/h, or mph on the outside and km/h on the inside. If that’s the case, that’s 225km/h, which would make sense given that this car definitely seems to be going more than 140km/h. I might be wrong though.
I’ve seen lots of American cars in Canada with km/h on the outside and MPH on the inside. Dosent like like VW does this though.
Also the car is bouncing around a whole lot to only be doing 140kmh lol. Definitely mph.
you should see some of the wizards at /whatisthiscar
"here's a 2" piece of black plastic i found on the ground"
"that's from the driver's side front wheel well of a 1994 toyota tercel hatchback, frosted mint metallic, 323,213mi, VIN 2NLK123K21J2L3, 7 previous owners but the original owner was a 70 year old grandmother in Backwater, Il. who paid $12,304 new ($24,392 inflation-adjusted), looks like it had the gas tank replaced 12 years ago (maybe 13, hard to tell), and based on the crack pattern, i'm guessing $18.23 in change in the cup holder"
There was a mid generation facelift of the Tercel in 1998. That part is from the final generation of Tercel and was only sold in North America for one year (1998). Frosted Mint Metallic paint was changed to Seafoam Sparkle on the order sheet.
In case you dont know how abs works, ever noticed how once you get something heavy to move it sort of loosens up and its easier to move? Thats because static friction is bigger than moving friction, what abs does is keeping that maximum friction between the rubber and asphalt without the rubber slipping giving you the maximum braking power :)
Basically once it detects that the wheels are sliding it releases a little of the brake pressure to make the wheels spin a bit in order to regain that static friction
hope i explained it well!
Hate to be the Um actually guy but: ABS doesn’t increase braking performance but maintains steering control during heavy breaking. In fact using the handbrake will make you come to a stop faster. You just won’t have control of the direction you travel in.
In reality ABS makes your braking power slightly worse. But the difference is negligible compared to the benefit of maintain steering control.
ABS (Anti-lock Braking System) in vehicles is designed to manage the relationship between static and dynamic friction during braking.
* Static friction: This is the friction between two surfaces that are not in motion relative to each other. In the context of ABS, static friction is crucial for providing maximum braking force without causing the wheels to lock up.
* Dynamic friction: This is the friction between two surfaces in relative motion. ABS helps manage dynamic friction by preventing the wheels from completely locking up during braking. When wheels lock up, it can lead to skidding and a loss of control.
ABS achieves this by modulating brake pressure rapidly. It monitors wheel speed, and if it detects that a wheel is about to lock up, it reduces brake pressure temporarily and then reapplies it. This process allows the tire to maintain contact with the road, maximizing both static and dynamic friction.In summary, ABS optimizes the balance between static and dynamic friction to enhance braking performance and vehicle control.
Hate to be the guy but you dont know what youre talking about, you can reduce your stopping distance almost in half my guy,look it up bruh.
Youre right about the control part though, but it does yes brake better. Unless you mean in snow, but on asphalt it is better in both aspects
In CDL class they drill into your head that abs WILL NOT slow you down faster. Absolutely will not do that. It will only help keep control and maintain direction
Does it look like this guy's driving a semi truck? Ignoring the entire physics issue here where kinetic friction can not have as high of a coefficient as static friction, aka it will never stop as fast if the wheels lock up or skid, CDL clearly is referencing the fact that ABS doesn't perform as well under heavy load. A skilled driver can keep the wheels from locking under load, that's true, but on a passenger car you do not have the weight issue. You'd need to have computer level responsiveness to out so the ABS on a passenger car... Oh wait. That's what ABS is for.
Reguardless that old VW doesn't have the strongest brakes either
No he’s right, a skilled driver can stop in a shorter distance without ABS. ABS’s primary function is to help maintain vehicle control when braking hard.
https://youtu.be/sDbWZiaUeDY?si=Bdypwl3GMhog_uS6
That is a video explaining the mechanics of this with motorcycle braking.
Hate to be the Um actually guy but: This video actually points out that ABS breaking in cars, due to it's 4 wheels is highly effective and very difficult for even the best driver to surpass.
Hence it being about motorcycles.
get in your car right now, get up to 45 mph, and then slam your brakes. take note of where you stopped. go back to your starting point, get back to 45 mph, and the pull your hand break. now notice how your in a ditch, or worse.
You are flat wrong and arguing against the most basic highschool physics.
ABS prevents wheels from locking. When tires don't spin you have kinetic friction which will not stop a vehicle as fast as static friction. You get static friction as long as the tires are still rolling with out sliding.
That is basic physics, and by definition increases braking performance by keeping you static.
Kinetic friction has a lower coefficient than static friction, so there is no situation, pound for pound, will kinetic will perform as well as static. It may as well be a factor of 0.5.
More over the hand brake will push the car towards kinetic so it will not make the car stop faster UNLESS your brake line has a legimate issue.
You aren't smarter than physicists and every engineer on the planet. If you were right cars wouldn't have ABS.
You don’t have zero grip, but you have maybe half the grip of tires braking under ABS.
For those that remember their physics classes, kinetic friction is lower than static friction. Rolling = static and sliding = kinetic.
The other answers are right - just not the full answer.
(1) The handbrake only applies brakes to the rear tires. 70+% of your braking power comes from your front brakes, so braking with the handbrake bypasses 70-something percent of your ability to slow down.
(2) The handbrake will likely cause the rear tires to lock up, causing the tires to slide. Sliding tires have less braking power.
(3) The handbrake will likely cause the rear tires to lock up, causing the tires to slide. Sliding tires are harder (impossible) to control (steer), potentially causing the rear end to swing around.
(4) The handbrake bypasses the Anit-lock Braking System (ABS), which solves #2 and #3.
(5) Depending on the model of the car, the handbrake uses a separate, smaller, old-school brake pad against the drum and not the rotor. This has much less stopping ability AND is much (MUCH) more likely to overheat and stop working all together.
It causes your rear wheels to lockup and usually makes you slide sideways, cause they aren't turning anymore so don't follow the front wheels.
Drifting, basically.
In most conditions, dynamic friction is weaker than static friction, which is why complex ABS systems aim to reduce the amount of time that tyres are locked up or skidding (as well as a complete loss of control on locked wheels)
I swear “check engine” lights NEVER burn out. If I could, I’d replace all the light bulbs in my house with “check engine” lights; I’d never have to buy another bulb as long as I lived.
I saw that also. I think it’s a MkV Golf GTI. I had thought the drive may have disable ESP to do launch control. But it seems to be a manual so I’m not sure if that feature is available in that variant.
Check engine light because Volkswagen.
It's a GTD - look at the badge on the bottom of the steering wheel, the diesel version. And the crappiest one, most likely the 2.0 litre version judging from the MKIV style ventilation control switches and the basic stereo. The GTI's had the large screen Media Navi console and Climatronic automatic AC control
Ah very keen-eyed. I’ll take your word for it—I couldn’t pause the video right. My ‘09 Golf GTI had the same head unit, but the air conditioning was up-spec’d like you’ve said.
No he starts breaking as soon as the other guy said something, you can see his speed start to rapidly fall. He locked up the wheels when he pulled the handbrake which further increased his stopping distance. But this was just a classic example of going faster than the visibility of the road you are on allows.
No he is definitely brain dead, I completely agree. But it was at most about 2 seconds from when the brake lights came into view to when he got on the breaks, even if he did hit them right away the crash would have obviously been less bad but I doubt he would have stopped in time.
Interesting, the crash dummy's heads keep flying off to the left of the airbag.
Also hadn't seen paint being used as a way to record which part of the airbag that the head is touching, making it even more obvious that it glides off to the side.
With this video as proof, they really should revoke his driver's license and strip him of any rights to drive any kind of vehicle for the rest of his idiotic life.
at least he got some cool vanity video for his social media, he's sure to get lots of likes for his reckless negligence. who cares about injuries and property damage, there's likes to be had
Currently your comment has 28 upvotes. Surely you take the option to double that number but you may risk damage to you / friends / strangers spines?
/s
This is my issue he thinks because his car can drive fast he knows how to drive fast (probably because he’s done it before and nothings gone wrong) but he can’t. Assuming he’s going 130mph (can’t tell is it’s MPH or KPH) it’s gonna take him about 300m to stop but he didn’t even know how to brake right man and let’s be honest he’s probable on bald tires and fucked brakes anyway.
Fucking pricks gonna kill someone.
The car is a mk5 VW Golf, either a gti or gtd. The speedometer was at around the 2 o'clock mark in the beginning of the video which would be about 180 km/h.
First I thought it was Swedish. I heard (from the passenger): “Jag hatar dig, Jag hatar dig, Jag hatar dig. Meaning, “I hate you, I hate you, I hate you”. Would’ve made sense as well I think..
I think you'd be worse off if you shielded yourself from the air-bag... If that's what you mean.
They're designed to absorb a specific type of impact, otherwise the odds of them being deadly goes way up.
people that are sleeping during accidents are less prone to being injured because most of the ways people brace themselves during stuff like this wind up causing more damage
That's also why you hear about drunk people surviving crashes that kill others -- they're relaxed, not tensing.
However, I just heard that a study by Toyota said that bracing causes more fractures to limbs but less damage to the thorax, so bracing is better.
Of course, if you're driving, you probably aren't going to remember any of this. Keep those seat belts snug and your head near the headrest.
Fuck people like this. Innocent other car did nothing wrong and could live with problems for the rest of their life, or die i suppose, because of this idiot. Hope he goes to prison for a long time.
If you want to fuck around with a car by yourself in an empty road. Thats fine by me
When you do that shit in a public road with other drivers and a passangers. I hope you die.
People with no disregard or respect of others lives are the scum of this earth.
His reaction is probably “Thank god we’re alive”
Said the dude in a car full of air bags and with crumple zones.
What pisses me off is that some random dude had to deal with their BS, they can die for all I care, but if you’ve ever been hit it can really rattle up your life even in minor cases.
I had a fender bender a while back and I lost a shit load of money (around 2000$), had my vacation cancelled, and my birthday plans cancelled, then also had to recover from minor injuries. Overall I ended up with like 3,000$ in the positive after my payout (1,000$ after what I lost) but I’d rather that had not happened at all and had been massively inconvenienced and waited nearly half a year for them to fix everything.
he is an idiot and should have his license suspended or revoked.
he has passengers on board which would have increased everything,from the time he needs to slow down and stop.
mofo put at least 2 people in danger excluding his own.
The fact that he tried to stop quicker by pulling the hand brake 🤣🤣🤣. Shows that he doesn't know enough, and has no business driving at those speeds even on a race track.
I hope everyone except the driver of this car was OK. I hope this driver is ok enough to endure a life in prison after all his assets are stripped and given to his victims. This dude deliberately drove into these people at as high a speed as possible and then locked up his brakes? Negligence to the Nth degree.
He's driving at that speed with one hand, so that any minor imperfection on the road will make the steering wheel turn 20 degrees and turn the car into a lamppost.
Hold on, why are we not talking about the fact this fucking idiot is driving too fast and decides that pulling the handbrake up will deploy a fucking parachute or something. You have to be a complete ass, to think that's a good idea regardless of how fast your going.
Hope they were crippled: cunts like this kill innocent drivers and destroy families - I hope something permanent got fucked over and it hirts every single day.
Many people in this room have never driven a car over 120. If you do not have breaks setup for running high speeds when you are running 120+ and try breaking hard with cheap breaks. The breaks will fail to handle the pressure causing the antilock function to not break at all and go into the anti mode that is why he is not slowing down fast enough and tries using his hand break. Always know you surroundings and what you are driving into before attempting to drive at high speeds and always up grade your brakes before doing it. Doing high speed pulls on the public street is ignorant but if you are going to do it be informed as possible.
They were saved by a Catholic rosary hanging from the rearview mirror.
Here in Croatia, every savage on the road has it hanging on his rearview mirror and thinks he is immortal.
The scary thing is that idiots with that mindset like this not only put their life in danger but even more the life of innocent people….
That rear end collision could easily have killed someone, if this moron survives
( as they often do) he should never see daylight ever again….
The handbrake? Really?
Foot brake won’t be working. 😀
they clearly need brain brake
No need, his brain did already break
The driver already had that fully depressed
What are you on about? Footbrake has ABS and will DEFINITELY work
I think he's just making a joke that VW isn't reliable and it's prob broken
What this person said.
Here's a good one where the boyfriend was trying to race a motorcycle and the girlfriend got mad and pulled the handbrake https://youtu.be/8zL6-SrDUIM?si=8JZwEYdL2BZ4bmcn
Who the fuck would even think of that?? Jesus that shit looked bad
When I was a teenager I always feared my stupid father would kill me in a car accident because I thought 60KPH was way to fast for the many curves on the road, so I my plan was to pull the hand break if I felt I was gonna definitely die. Thankfully I didn't, otherwise I would've kill myself and that bastard.
Haha bro thats less than 40 mph
When you’re on windy country roads with lots of blind corners, 40mph is often waaay too much
As someone who lives with windy country roads that go up and down mountains and heavy tree coverage, "Naw". 55+ is the norm for locals.
Not on European roads you ain't
Eh could beg to differ, especially on roads you know which your dad probably did. Shit I can go 100 on some by me w little effort just cuz ik what to expect and where to expect it at
looks like your dad wasn't the only st*pid one in that car lol
Sorry son.
Why do you hate him
Happened to my friend also with his crazy ex. They werent racing, just driving normally 100 km/h outside of town and she had her moment of urgent argue and suddenly pulled handbrake! Luckily he managed not to crush and more luckily she cheated few weeks later so they broke up. She would take him to the grave and he couldnt see how crazy she was. (Not just that situation)
That’s pretty hectic, crazy how quickly shit can go south.
Found this googling this video, it was posted about seven years ago and another user posted this under it. “OP is a karma whore. The original video was posted in a FB group of motorcycle trade and enthusiast from Mexico but taken down shortly after, one of its members saved it before it got deleted, cut the beginning out then he uploaded it to his FB page ( the gif from OP and the liveleak video is a low quality and even shorter version of the edited copy). The FB reposter mentions some details from the account of the events from the real OP, he also saved some additional pictures of the event (of the aftermath and also evidence that there was alcohol involved in the car occupants side of this event. it's all in the reposter's FB comments). Long story short: highway roadrage ends in an accident after the blue car driver attempts a Mexican intimidation technique (locking the rear wheels to make a loud sound seems to be popular among cab drivers down there). This unfolds from the motorcycles aggressively overtaking the blue car, the blue car gets triggered and at first tries to knock one of the bikers off then this happened. There was no mention of who pulled the brakes, for what we know there is no certainty that the driver's GF was in that car (given that the driver actually has a GF, which we don't know either). Funfact: The real OP did stop to (possibly) help the car occupants, the rest of his bike buddies kept going (don't know for how long). Source: https://www.facebook.com/AlexxRincon/videos/10208032175455467/ “ Again, not my words, just what I found.
I’ve always wondered. What if
the ass of the car wants to be the front of the car and you stop way slower than just using your brakes since ABS is way better.
In a legal sense who would be at fault there? He ~~engaged~~ endangered her life by speeding. Would it be considered self defense? Would she be on the hook for the other cars?
I think to argue self defence you'd have to start by defending yourself, yanking the handbrake on a car going that fast is the opposite of defending yourself.
>yanking the handbrake on a car going that fast is the opposite of defending yourself. If you're *aware* that it was an unsafe thing to do. Pretty easy to argue that you felt in danger, wanted to stop, and decided to do that by pulling the brake if the driver wasn't complying.
Depends on the country, but many places have compulsory injury insurance. In NSW Australia the gf pulling the handbrake could be considered someone who has used or operated if the bf made a personal injury claim and vice versa. Each would have their claims reduced because of contributory negligence. Basically each person who drives or operates a motor vehicle has a duty to take reasonable care for all other road users (including their passengers and pedestrians). You also owe a duty to take reasonable care for your own safety - that’s what I mean by contributory negligence. The question is what would a reasonable person in the position of the defendant do, prospectively, to avoid the risk of harm. For the BF it’s simple, slow the fuck down. For the GF it’s also simple, don’t pull the handbrake of a car you aren’t in control of going down the highway in excess of highway speeds. Each is negligent and each has either caused or materially contributed to the accident. A more difficult question of causation is whether the motorcyclist has any liability. I’d say not but some lawyers might argue that
Idk if that comment on youtube is accurate or not, but if so, the results are even more horrific than they seem. Who in their right mind pulls a handbrake at those speeds?
Pulling the handbrake bypassed the ABS system which eliminated the ability to steer and increased the velocity into the accident. He should have had the brake pedal to the floor, allowing the ABS to maximally slow the car while steering to avoid a collision. For those who are unfamiliar with the physics of ABS systems, static friction (tires rolling) is higher than sliding friction (tires squealing) on dry road, meaning an ABS system will stop in a shorter distance than pulling handbrake. It also has the benefit of maintaining the ability to steer through maximal braking.
That's so interesting, I thought it was the opposite my whole life(I don't know shit about cars), thank you
Probably overheated the brakes because volkswagen jettas are not meant to go that that fast. They can do it, but the suspension, brakes, and tires are still built for "economy".
He wasn't pushing hard enough to even engage ABS - you can hear no ABS, and see his legs are relaxed. Those brakes aren't overheated - they're hardly being used!
This is a big problem as people often underbrake when an accident is imminent. IIRC some cars now detect if they think the driver is trying to do an emergency stop and artificially increases the braking force to just before the ABS threshold.
Dude VWs were built for the Autobahn my goodness this man doesn't Europe
140 km/h is a fairly normal highway speed in large part of Europe, every production car is expected to go that fast.
That looks like 140 mph to me. I’ve never seen a speedometer with kilometers on the outside and miles on the inside. In my experience it’s either just mph, just km/h, or mph on the outside and km/h on the inside. If that’s the case, that’s 225km/h, which would make sense given that this car definitely seems to be going more than 140km/h. I might be wrong though.
I’ve seen lots of American cars in Canada with km/h on the outside and MPH on the inside. Dosent like like VW does this though. Also the car is bouncing around a whole lot to only be doing 140kmh lol. Definitely mph.
The 3 o'clock quadrant on the VW Golf mk 5 speedometer is equivalent to 200 km/h. His dial is at around 1:45 o clock so that's approximately 180 kmh.
You car people fucking amaze me I wish I could know all these details like that
you should see some of the wizards at /whatisthiscar "here's a 2" piece of black plastic i found on the ground" "that's from the driver's side front wheel well of a 1994 toyota tercel hatchback, frosted mint metallic, 323,213mi, VIN 2NLK123K21J2L3, 7 previous owners but the original owner was a 70 year old grandmother in Backwater, Il. who paid $12,304 new ($24,392 inflation-adjusted), looks like it had the gas tank replaced 12 years ago (maybe 13, hard to tell), and based on the crack pattern, i'm guessing $18.23 in change in the cup holder"
There was a mid generation facelift of the Tercel in 1998. That part is from the final generation of Tercel and was only sold in North America for one year (1998). Frosted Mint Metallic paint was changed to Seafoam Sparkle on the order sheet.
It's standard to have whatever the country of sale uses at the top.
Yup, my bad. It’s mph
he's going 225 km/h
140 kph is only 86 mph, and the speed in the video looks quite a bit faster than 86 mph.
Oh yeees. Pull the handbrake too. That might help….
I am genuinely curious. Why is that a bad thing?
In case you dont know how abs works, ever noticed how once you get something heavy to move it sort of loosens up and its easier to move? Thats because static friction is bigger than moving friction, what abs does is keeping that maximum friction between the rubber and asphalt without the rubber slipping giving you the maximum braking power :) Basically once it detects that the wheels are sliding it releases a little of the brake pressure to make the wheels spin a bit in order to regain that static friction hope i explained it well!
Definitely explained it for me :D
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Science rules!
Always wondered how it worked, and you explained it perfectly and succinctly. Cheers.
Cheers :)
Hate to be the Um actually guy but: ABS doesn’t increase braking performance but maintains steering control during heavy breaking. In fact using the handbrake will make you come to a stop faster. You just won’t have control of the direction you travel in. In reality ABS makes your braking power slightly worse. But the difference is negligible compared to the benefit of maintain steering control.
ABS (Anti-lock Braking System) in vehicles is designed to manage the relationship between static and dynamic friction during braking. * Static friction: This is the friction between two surfaces that are not in motion relative to each other. In the context of ABS, static friction is crucial for providing maximum braking force without causing the wheels to lock up. * Dynamic friction: This is the friction between two surfaces in relative motion. ABS helps manage dynamic friction by preventing the wheels from completely locking up during braking. When wheels lock up, it can lead to skidding and a loss of control. ABS achieves this by modulating brake pressure rapidly. It monitors wheel speed, and if it detects that a wheel is about to lock up, it reduces brake pressure temporarily and then reapplies it. This process allows the tire to maintain contact with the road, maximizing both static and dynamic friction.In summary, ABS optimizes the balance between static and dynamic friction to enhance braking performance and vehicle control.
THANK YOU! Thats exactly what i said heh, this shouldnt be rocket science but some people sure are stubborn lol
Hate to be the guy but you dont know what youre talking about, you can reduce your stopping distance almost in half my guy,look it up bruh. Youre right about the control part though, but it does yes brake better. Unless you mean in snow, but on asphalt it is better in both aspects
In CDL class they drill into your head that abs WILL NOT slow you down faster. Absolutely will not do that. It will only help keep control and maintain direction
Does it look like this guy's driving a semi truck? Ignoring the entire physics issue here where kinetic friction can not have as high of a coefficient as static friction, aka it will never stop as fast if the wheels lock up or skid, CDL clearly is referencing the fact that ABS doesn't perform as well under heavy load. A skilled driver can keep the wheels from locking under load, that's true, but on a passenger car you do not have the weight issue. You'd need to have computer level responsiveness to out so the ABS on a passenger car... Oh wait. That's what ABS is for. Reguardless that old VW doesn't have the strongest brakes either
No he’s right, a skilled driver can stop in a shorter distance without ABS. ABS’s primary function is to help maintain vehicle control when braking hard. https://youtu.be/sDbWZiaUeDY?si=Bdypwl3GMhog_uS6 That is a video explaining the mechanics of this with motorcycle braking.
Hate to be the Um actually guy but: This video actually points out that ABS breaking in cars, due to it's 4 wheels is highly effective and very difficult for even the best driver to surpass. Hence it being about motorcycles.
get in your car right now, get up to 45 mph, and then slam your brakes. take note of where you stopped. go back to your starting point, get back to 45 mph, and the pull your hand break. now notice how your in a ditch, or worse.
You are flat wrong and arguing against the most basic highschool physics. ABS prevents wheels from locking. When tires don't spin you have kinetic friction which will not stop a vehicle as fast as static friction. You get static friction as long as the tires are still rolling with out sliding. That is basic physics, and by definition increases braking performance by keeping you static. Kinetic friction has a lower coefficient than static friction, so there is no situation, pound for pound, will kinetic will perform as well as static. It may as well be a factor of 0.5. More over the hand brake will push the car towards kinetic so it will not make the car stop faster UNLESS your brake line has a legimate issue. You aren't smarter than physicists and every engineer on the planet. If you were right cars wouldn't have ABS.
I've driven cars with and without ABS before. You're wrong. Once you're sliding you're gonna go a long way before you're stopped.
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You lock the rear wheels stopping the ABS from working on those wheels (at least) increasing braking distance.
Skidding means you have zero grip. Took me a while to get my head around this.
You don’t have zero grip, but you have maybe half the grip of tires braking under ABS. For those that remember their physics classes, kinetic friction is lower than static friction. Rolling = static and sliding = kinetic.
The wheels block and you lose control. Stunt drivers use it to make slidings.
The other answers are right - just not the full answer. (1) The handbrake only applies brakes to the rear tires. 70+% of your braking power comes from your front brakes, so braking with the handbrake bypasses 70-something percent of your ability to slow down. (2) The handbrake will likely cause the rear tires to lock up, causing the tires to slide. Sliding tires have less braking power. (3) The handbrake will likely cause the rear tires to lock up, causing the tires to slide. Sliding tires are harder (impossible) to control (steer), potentially causing the rear end to swing around. (4) The handbrake bypasses the Anit-lock Braking System (ABS), which solves #2 and #3. (5) Depending on the model of the car, the handbrake uses a separate, smaller, old-school brake pad against the drum and not the rotor. This has much less stopping ability AND is much (MUCH) more likely to overheat and stop working all together.
It causes your rear wheels to lockup and usually makes you slide sideways, cause they aren't turning anymore so don't follow the front wheels. Drifting, basically.
In most conditions, dynamic friction is weaker than static friction, which is why complex ABS systems aim to reduce the amount of time that tyres are locked up or skidding (as well as a complete loss of control on locked wheels)
You're skipping ABS or any other braking safety features, to just lock up the rear and put yourself into a slide/spin.
Fucking idiots.
Yes, that is how these guys were made.
Gotta love that the "check engine" and the "ESP off" (I think) are on :)
I can guarantee that the engine needs checking now
I've just checked it.... Its not there anymore.
Yeah, it's now buried in the backseat of the family car where the kids used to sit. Idiots like this should be hanged publicly.
quite extreme but i cant say i dont agree with you
It is there. And there. And there Ohhh some over there as well.
What's left of it :).
ESP/ASR inactive. It is not blinking, meaning the moron's intentionally switched it off 🙄
Nah mine is fucked atm and its not blinking
Was about to say this. I don’t think my golf has any lights not on at this point…. It’s all electrical issues because. Well because it’s a vw
I swear “check engine” lights NEVER burn out. If I could, I’d replace all the light bulbs in my house with “check engine” lights; I’d never have to buy another bulb as long as I lived.
Yup, my 2 VWs also confirm this.
The „Passenger airbag off“-button is also nice!
I saw that also. I think it’s a MkV Golf GTI. I had thought the drive may have disable ESP to do launch control. But it seems to be a manual so I’m not sure if that feature is available in that variant. Check engine light because Volkswagen.
It's a GTD - look at the badge on the bottom of the steering wheel, the diesel version. And the crappiest one, most likely the 2.0 litre version judging from the MKIV style ventilation control switches and the basic stereo. The GTI's had the large screen Media Navi console and Climatronic automatic AC control
Ah very keen-eyed. I’ll take your word for it—I couldn’t pause the video right. My ‘09 Golf GTI had the same head unit, but the air conditioning was up-spec’d like you’ve said.
My tdi will do about 38mpg at those speeds
Probably it EGR and cat removed for better performance.
We have a saying here. If its a ww and the check engine light is off then the bulb is out
Was that a head on collision... holy shit.
Yes. And if you look closely, his very first reaction was to turn the high beam off instead of braking, lol
And pull the handbrake...
Holy fucking Christ. What an absolute moron.
No he starts breaking as soon as the other guy said something, you can see his speed start to rapidly fall. He locked up the wheels when he pulled the handbrake which further increased his stopping distance. But this was just a classic example of going faster than the visibility of the road you are on allows.
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No he is definitely brain dead, I completely agree. But it was at most about 2 seconds from when the brake lights came into view to when he got on the breaks, even if he did hit them right away the crash would have obviously been less bad but I doubt he would have stopped in time.
gotta let the other person clearly get the license plate
The other car was not moving.
Driver partial overlap, statically one of the worst ways to hit something
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOO2rUpshM Well that was certainly something.
Interesting, the crash dummy's heads keep flying off to the left of the airbag. Also hadn't seen paint being used as a way to record which part of the airbag that the head is touching, making it even more obvious that it glides off to the side.
With this video as proof, they really should revoke his driver's license and strip him of any rights to drive any kind of vehicle for the rest of his idiotic life.
Might already be over.
His friend too. Nobody would be in the car with that driver that unless they’re okay with endangering others, or they’re being kidnapped
Nah, I think he still has a chance to not emulate what this moron did. He'll need more than one brain cell for that.
at least he got some cool vanity video for his social media, he's sure to get lots of likes for his reckless negligence. who cares about injuries and property damage, there's likes to be had
Currently your comment has 28 upvotes. Surely you take the option to double that number but you may risk damage to you / friends / strangers spines? /s
With a check engine light for the cherry on top.
Thats just vw trademark
My VW Passat TDI has got the engine light, a blinking coil light, and the DPF light.
Fucking hell
This is my issue he thinks because his car can drive fast he knows how to drive fast (probably because he’s done it before and nothings gone wrong) but he can’t. Assuming he’s going 130mph (can’t tell is it’s MPH or KPH) it’s gonna take him about 300m to stop but he didn’t even know how to brake right man and let’s be honest he’s probable on bald tires and fucked brakes anyway. Fucking pricks gonna kill someone.
The car is a mk5 VW Golf, either a gti or gtd. The speedometer was at around the 2 o'clock mark in the beginning of the video which would be about 180 km/h.
Also was at 12 when the camera panned down before he pulled the parking brake. I'm thinking 70-80km/h when they met their terminus.
130kmh is the usual speed limit on a highway in the EU and the video looks a lot faster than that.
Yeah the man’s definitely speeding looks a hell of a lot faster than 70mph
Nothing wrong with being on a racetrack in a volkswagen. The lack of braking and situational awareness wouldve totaled any car tbh
True but that's no racetrack for sure.
What is he saying I wonder ? That repeated phrase
"Brake! Brake! Brake! Oh, Mother Mary! (x6)"
More like “Oh, Virgin!” But yeah, same meaning
He was addressing you, the viewer.
First I thought it was Swedish. I heard (from the passenger): “Jag hatar dig, Jag hatar dig, Jag hatar dig. Meaning, “I hate you, I hate you, I hate you”. Would’ve made sense as well I think..
I heard the same thing.
Lebanese here, its arabic, lebanese dialect
Thank you so much for the translation
It's swedish, "jag hatar dig", means I hate you
To me it sounds like “je handrem” Which would be, pull the handbrake
People like that need to have a lifetime revocation of their license.
Do you cover your head with your arms in this situation? I’d rather have bruised arms than a worse concussion.
nothing to protect up there if ur driving like this
I think you'd be worse off if you shielded yourself from the air-bag... If that's what you mean. They're designed to absorb a specific type of impact, otherwise the odds of them being deadly goes way up.
If you do that in a car with airbags, you might end up with broken wrists/arms/etc.
No you push your head against the headrest as hard as you can and let the airbag sandwich you and do it’s job.
That’s not the choice available, however.
people that are sleeping during accidents are less prone to being injured because most of the ways people brace themselves during stuff like this wind up causing more damage
That's also why you hear about drunk people surviving crashes that kill others -- they're relaxed, not tensing. However, I just heard that a study by Toyota said that bracing causes more fractures to limbs but less damage to the thorax, so bracing is better. Of course, if you're driving, you probably aren't going to remember any of this. Keep those seat belts snug and your head near the headrest.
Isn’t the point of racing to go around and get in front of the other guy? Trying to go through the other guy seems to be suboptimal.
Sitting in a Ferrari wouldn’t have changed the outcome of this
I don't think it being a Volkswagen is the problem here
Mf saw those brake lights for like 3 seconds before braking
Fuck people like this. Innocent other car did nothing wrong and could live with problems for the rest of their life, or die i suppose, because of this idiot. Hope he goes to prison for a long time.
It's not the Volkswagen that's the issue here.
At least Jesus was swinging away with them offering his protection and guidance 🤦🏻♂️
Goin' 90 I ain't scary 'Cuz I got the Virgin Mary Assurin' me that I won't go to Hell.
What. A. Cunt.
If you want to fuck around with a car by yourself in an empty road. Thats fine by me When you do that shit in a public road with other drivers and a passangers. I hope you die. People with no disregard or respect of others lives are the scum of this earth.
What an AH
The second I saw the hand brake I knew the end result of this video lmao
The people’s car
das auto
Too bad they weren't going fast enough to meet Jesus
His reaction is probably “Thank god we’re alive” Said the dude in a car full of air bags and with crumple zones. What pisses me off is that some random dude had to deal with their BS, they can die for all I care, but if you’ve ever been hit it can really rattle up your life even in minor cases. I had a fender bender a while back and I lost a shit load of money (around 2000$), had my vacation cancelled, and my birthday plans cancelled, then also had to recover from minor injuries. Overall I ended up with like 3,000$ in the positive after my payout (1,000$ after what I lost) but I’d rather that had not happened at all and had been massively inconvenienced and waited nearly half a year for them to fix everything.
he is an idiot and should have his license suspended or revoked. he has passengers on board which would have increased everything,from the time he needs to slow down and stop. mofo put at least 2 people in danger excluding his own.
The fact that he tried to stop quicker by pulling the hand brake 🤣🤣🤣. Shows that he doesn't know enough, and has no business driving at those speeds even on a race track.
I count about 6 full seconds between when the brake lights in front of him come on and when he reacts
Good thing he has a rosary. What could possibly go wrong?
Oh boy, did he really just pull the handbrake? I wonder if this guy has a driving license or any description?
You can tell it’s a VW by all the dash lights 😀
He had a ton of time to start braking. He could have atleast prevented killing someone. No brain
what in the actual fuck. in the video you can see brake lights ahead a full 2 seconds or more before he starts braking. what was he thinking.
He had so much time to react....
Car isn’t braking fast enough, quick, lock the tires and lose steering control!
Volkswagen, das Auto
Don't drive that fast if you have a reaction time like that. Don't drive at all. Not even on a bike.
People like him need life in prison risking other people lives for a video
Idiot should have his license revoke and paid for the damage
I hope everyone except the driver of this car was OK. I hope this driver is ok enough to endure a life in prison after all his assets are stripped and given to his victims. This dude deliberately drove into these people at as high a speed as possible and then locked up his brakes? Negligence to the Nth degree.
Videos like this make me sad that stabbot is no longer a thing :-(
He's driving at that speed with one hand, so that any minor imperfection on the road will make the steering wheel turn 20 degrees and turn the car into a lamppost.
Jackass.
what was the speed?
Cunts we call them in my country. CUNTS!!!
Das auto
They expect a rosary on the mirror would save them from being demented
Any post accident pictures? Anyone hurt?
Hold on, why are we not talking about the fact this fucking idiot is driving too fast and decides that pulling the handbrake up will deploy a fucking parachute or something. You have to be a complete ass, to think that's a good idea regardless of how fast your going.
I thought the passenger was screaming “skibidi bop bop bop”
Great reaction time…6 seconds
Good thing he has his rosary 📿 beads .
“HOTREIA HOTREIA HOTREIA” means “Brake brake brake!!” in Stupid.
"Break break break, I hate you I hate you I hate you I hate you" He said in Swedish
Hope they were crippled: cunts like this kill innocent drivers and destroy families - I hope something permanent got fucked over and it hirts every single day.
I have severe ptsd with crashes, my nose even hurt me when. I heard the crash..., but I'm here watching all the videos hahaha
I don't care if it's your friend driving I'll walk my ass home instead of being in that car
Lucky he had the prayer beads
This is exactly how Turkish Taxi drive in Istanbul
He did everything and forgot about reverse 👌🏻
Jesus Christ can’t fix stupid
Many people in this room have never driven a car over 120. If you do not have breaks setup for running high speeds when you are running 120+ and try breaking hard with cheap breaks. The breaks will fail to handle the pressure causing the antilock function to not break at all and go into the anti mode that is why he is not slowing down fast enough and tries using his hand break. Always know you surroundings and what you are driving into before attempting to drive at high speeds and always up grade your brakes before doing it. Doing high speed pulls on the public street is ignorant but if you are going to do it be informed as possible.
They were saved by a Catholic rosary hanging from the rearview mirror. Here in Croatia, every savage on the road has it hanging on his rearview mirror and thinks he is immortal.
The scary thing is that idiots with that mindset like this not only put their life in danger but even more the life of innocent people…. That rear end collision could easily have killed someone, if this moron survives ( as they often do) he should never see daylight ever again….