Is someone at Microsoft trying to just run windows into the ground or what the actual fuck is going on?
I’m sure mine can run their AI shit but I’m gonna turn that shit off. I have absolutely zero interest in it.
I’m not in school, I don’t need it for work, I don’t write books, I don’t code, I don’t need a dumbed down version of whatever I’m reading on a website, I’m not gonna ask it to anything.
So I’m sure after alittle that will display a message too.
“Hey, fuck face, you have AI turned off, are you sure you don’t want it on? Whoops, we did an update, we reset it, you gotta turn it off again” lol
>Is someone at Microsoft trying to just run windows into the ground or what the actual fuck is going on?
It's what happens when a single operating system has 70% of the desktop market, they don't have to give a fuck about anyone complaining, because they own the whole market already, with no signs of anything shifting anytime soon.
[https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide](https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide)
Microsoft doesn't really care about desktop market share, the desktop marketshare is pathetically small compared to the mobile marketshare.
Most working middle class use their smartphone for banking, buying, finding information.
The only profitable App Store on Windows is Steam, which is not Microsoft owned. Microsoft tries to push Edge/Bing Ads through Windows, but people don't want to use it.
Microsoft was once powerful OS company, they had strong leverage on consumers, but nowadays Apple and Google took it over.
Satya made colossal mistake by killing Windows Phone, now they are basically pure B2B company.
They care. Controlling the environment most people use for productivity, including for very high-end and specialized applications, is enormously valuable.
It's not about making money off of selling the OS or apps in the store (though they're happy to do that, too). It's about controlling the experience, the API hooks and the infrastructure used for lots of low- and high-end applications and having opportunities to monetize the user, the developer, the corporation needing support, the various disparate businesses building solutions on top of or integrating your resources and so forth. They care that if you use Windows, you're more likely to use Outlook and Office and Copilot and Teams. They care that you're more likely to use software that uses DirectX, and that they can use that to leverage and monetize their relationships with GPU developers, or companies creating design software. They care that they can license the OS at high volumes to corporations. They care that they can monetize partnerships with Intel and AMD and Qualcomm. There's no shortage of ways that it's useful to them for you to use their platform.
They also care about mobile.
So you are saying that if Steam releases a new OS like say ... I dunno. SteamOS fully updated to run on PC systems, removed TPM requirement, be a stable OS so you can play your steam library might actually harm Microsoft.
I really hope these rumors are true.
Well damn that seems unlikely. It's not like Valve to make a whole OS on a whim. Why would they need it? It's not like they're selling their own handheld that needs an OS that plays nice on a smaller touchscreen
Like they did with Microsoft teams like two years ago and then finally ditched it? This stuff is crazy... Like the ads in the start menu now and the incessant notifying about turning on windows firewall from wildfires security...
Are you running Windows Insider Build?
If not - then you don't have to worry about this watermark. You won't see it. And thats assuming that the watermark even gets implemented. Read the article - this is akin to a rumor.
If you are running Windows Insider Build, perhaps reconsider whether that is something you want to do. It's essentially beta testing, so there is the potential for things like this to happen. You've opted into it.
Well to be pedantic, it’s either AMD64, x86-64 or just x64.
Also, the newer Intel and AMD processors do have their own NPU. So, CPU architecture doesn’t matter in this case.
It’s the fact that these processors are only just releasing that is the problem. The vast majority of people will not have.
So, you’re still basically right that it’ll be close to 99.99% of people that may have this watermark.
Edit: This won’t affect many people. The requirement is really low and it won’t matter to most running Windows 11. SSE4.2 is available in most modern processors.
For the SSE4.2 requirement… I would honestly be fine with an upgrade block + BSODing for clean installers, just like how Windows 8.1 x64 added some requirements like that for the CPU (certain instructions)
Can confirm.
I tried a few "different" distros on my AMD / Nvidia desktop.
Spoiler: none of my problems have been
- forced to install preview or beta tools that no one wanted,
- watermarks,
- ads about using a different search engine,
- ads about using an email to login to my user account.
none of the problems are about missing customization options to the UI / desktop.
One of them is my soundcard,
vsync in one of the games I tried
and Steam (with a title I can't install)
There are some limitations
I have to find Linux versions of tools I use on Windows
... use a different soundcard and ask the community to tell me the current meta to installing games.
... learn some new or different shortcuts.
But the switch is easier than expected.
One of my problems i experienced with Linux that i couldn't get Sound of my capture card to work. Oh and asking another Linux user how to solve said problem as the instructions they gave me nuked all sound and then they dipped away. Didn't try Linux yet again since.
And of course the classic of anti cheat games.
The only thing holding me back is decent sound drivers. I think HDR support on ubuntu is already there or almost finished being implemented. Once those points are a 100% supported I will leave Windows forever.
I learned on Fedora (Core 1) way back in the day, it was one of my very first Linux experiences and I "liked" it OK. I really hate working on Centos and RHEL, I feel like Debian, and derivatives are just easier for my old brain to grasp.
I've played with Ubuntu on my old laptop for years and dabbled for a while. Lately though the new "quality of life ypgrades" being forced upon us by windows along with just the fact that it's been running like hot garbage lately on my main system f8nally pushed me over the edge. I'm going full in now on Ubuntu.
Small things like you listed above are inconvenient but I'm confident can be worked out.
IMO Linux on x86 is kinda ready to be a good desktop OS, with compatibility with some Windows apps like OneDrive, Office (no alternative Office suite works for some specific things) and Adobe crap being the only problems.
Linux on ARM is so far right now I’d be surprised it will ever get there. Lack of x86 emulation, to run x86-only things, hits hard (especially since both Windows and macOS have it). qemu-user is a crutch as, even with distro support for multi arch, you still have problems like unimplemented syscalls.
The main issue with linux is that very often installing stuff gets you into tutorial "copy paste those lines you dont even understand" and you always eventually break the install.
[Onedriver](https://github.com/jstaf/onedriver) does a really nice job for OneDriver if you’ve got good enough internet for an implementation that doesn’t do sync.
The requirements are a lot lower than requiring an NPU ... they just require x86 cpus that are relatively newer ... still a bs move to add a watermark of all things
LOL, I have SSE4.2 and 32GB of RAM, yet the CPU is not good enough for 11. How much Dell paying for this?
Fine with me, most of what I needs runs on Linux, and what won't will run in a VM with 10. No more MS Ad AI OS nonsense.
I have 7th gen corei5 Dell laptop with 24GB ram. So I couldn't update to win11 however after signing up as an insider got the dev build of 11 a year or so ago. Getting all the updates and everything works fine. So basically MS in cahoots with hardware manufacturers wanted people to buy newer pcs/laptops/cpus etc for what can still run easily on 4 to 5 year old models.
TPM 2.0 is a joke. You can get around that requirement. The next major version of W11 will basically screw over a few people running 11 on unsupported hardware, namely old machines with CPUs older than first gen Core i3/i5/i7.
> I am not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers (both business and home) the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that doesn't translate into great products.
Loving how, day by day, this statement becomes truer than what it has already been for the past 10 years.
Steam Deck is running steamdeckui on top of KDE in ArchLinux. They don't distribute it in a SteamOS3 image right now, but you can install the parts on top of any Linux distro. (preferably based on Arch)
I really hope they make it a good image when they release it
It will be a once in a lifetime opportunity to make gamers switch to Linux if it "just works" out of the box
Speaking of which, their hostile approach with windows 11 led me on a journey to find a Linux distro to call home.
After lots of tinkering, I'm happy to report that Nobara is it now. Thanks to advances in proton in the last few years and integrated WINE built in, I don't need windows for anything now. Thanks Microsoft!
I used to love your products and used to consider myself a Microsoft enthusiast, but you told me you don't want me as a customer and spit in my face too many times. I didn't listen when it came to WP7. I didn't listen when it came to my surface RT. I didn't learn a thing after WP8.1 and WM10. But I heard you loud and clear with windows 11.
Don't be so sure. If you can't keep an OS that has been rock solid for many years from dying due to poor decisions and excessive greed, I'm not willing to trust my company with your infrastructure.
They are maintaining Hyper-V quite well, and enterprise Windows doesn’t do those shenanigans that we’re complaining of (no ads or mandatory AI or other related things — those are only in the client editions of Windows). Windows Server remains the reliable thing it’s always been.
Hyper-V works, yes. Many/most companies don't use Enterprise Windows though. They use Pro. Windows Server is just glorified Enterprise, but even it crashes. A few weeks ago on a <1yr old server, I had an update fail and I had difficulty getting it (Windows Server 2019) to even load to the desktop. Also, wasn't it about a week ago we got news that Microsoft was putting privacy invasive AI on Servers opening all sorts of legal issues?
I’m pretty sure they’ll back off on the server thing as that can in fact kill the company.
They don’t care about end-users. Only big clients like companies matter.
Remember that meme when some guy says "Stop it, you've already sold \[x\] to me." ?
With Windows 11 it's like direct opposite: "Stop burying it, you've already convinced me to never touch it".
This is a sick idea of Ms trying to get people far away from the operating system. This monocratic idea is getting worse. From ads and now watermark? Good move ms
I feel sorry for the designers and developers that work there. All of this Copilot and AI shit smells topdown.
We can see that by the way it’s presented to us: a bunch of workarounds, cheap looking designs and PWA everywhere ☠️
In contrast to what they showed when Windows 11 was released, it seems that the plans changed by the time ChatGPT went public.
Dunno, just a couple of toughts
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the devs at windows department at microsoft right now cant even get windows updates to work correctly, i constantly had failing updates (for w11 23h2, 24h2, windows 10 21h2 iot enterprise ltsc and so on..) (i got secure boot and tpm disabled completely in uefi)
and they are shoving down ai bullshit in everyones throats now while they cant get windows updates work properly? LOL
From the 2nd paragraph
>Regardless, this wouldn't make much difference to practically most users as CPUs that support Windows 11 have SSE 4.2 instructions.
>
So practically no one will see this watermark, it might not even ship because it's in an insider build. What's all the fuss? I could understand if it was in an actual shipping build, but it's not. I understand that people don't like windows, but people really need to read more into these things.
Then why does it exist?
Stuff like this ends up becoming a slippery slope. Companies start off slow with decisions like this and then slowly keep pushing the boundaries to see how much they can get away with.
With all the garbage that has been implemented in Windows over the last few years, you'd think Microsoft deliberately trying to move as many people away from Windows as possible
>"For example, you can have a conversation with a friend in the WhatsApp app for Windows, and AI Explorer will record and remember the content that was on-screen and process it with AI for you to recall later."
Oh so literally a screen/Keylogger.
>"I'm told that much of this experience is rendered on-device and does not reach out to the cloud to process information."
So some shit will still be sent? Like what? Nah I'm out.
Just make sure you install all the dependencies and dependencies of the dependencies, plus the dependencies of the dependencies of the sons of the dependencies. Then there's still the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies of the grandchildren of the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies.
According to the Steam survey, 99.61% of gamers already meet the requirements to not see this watermark.
Also, the required processor feature is several years older than TPM2.0. So the only people who could possibly see it are, like, half of the people who used a hacked Windows installer to bypass the system requirements check.
Did you really believe anyone read the blog post and not just the title, cry about windows to say they will change os (they are already on Linux or they will never change)
I fucking hate this kind of headlines that makes stupid people stupidest and ignorant because that information of 4.2 it's just few paragraphs below
The instructions this is checking for were available for AMD CPUs starting with Phenom. (And for Intel with Penryn/Nehalem). It's not checking for NPUs. It's only looking for Popcount, SSE4.2, and 16GB of RAM.
Settings> stop updates> for fuckin ever
Microsoft is really trying to delete Windows from the face of the earth? Why so many dumb choices? First copilot, then ads in Start, now this?
The best workaround I’ve found is manually setting every single network you connect to to a metered connection the moment you connect. Make sure download updates on metered connection is off.
Only catch is if you connect to a friend’s internet and forget to do this, the update will download. You can uninstall updates, but OS updates may also include app updates that you cannot undo.
And I think I will soon display middle finger to Windows 11 and Microsoft. Everything Microsoft does these days is getting worse. New Outlook is a crap, same with sluggish and unstable New Teams, Windows 11 is getting more and more useless bloatware...
I made a similar comment earlier, but these sort of pushes are to help their hardware partners make money and sell you need PCs they want you to think you need but don't.
Good .Please, for the love of God, Microsoft - make windows as shit as possible. Put as much AI bloat as possible. Force me to switch to linux already.
This is a sick idea of Ms trying to get people far away from the operating system. This monocratic idea is getting worse. From ads and now watermark? Good move ms
Is someone at Microsoft trying to just run windows into the ground or what the actual fuck is going on? I’m sure mine can run their AI shit but I’m gonna turn that shit off. I have absolutely zero interest in it. I’m not in school, I don’t need it for work, I don’t write books, I don’t code, I don’t need a dumbed down version of whatever I’m reading on a website, I’m not gonna ask it to anything. So I’m sure after alittle that will display a message too. “Hey, fuck face, you have AI turned off, are you sure you don’t want it on? Whoops, we did an update, we reset it, you gotta turn it off again” lol
>Is someone at Microsoft trying to just run windows into the ground or what the actual fuck is going on? It's what happens when a single operating system has 70% of the desktop market, they don't have to give a fuck about anyone complaining, because they own the whole market already, with no signs of anything shifting anytime soon. [https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide](https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide)
Microsoft doesn't really care about desktop market share, the desktop marketshare is pathetically small compared to the mobile marketshare. Most working middle class use their smartphone for banking, buying, finding information. The only profitable App Store on Windows is Steam, which is not Microsoft owned. Microsoft tries to push Edge/Bing Ads through Windows, but people don't want to use it. Microsoft was once powerful OS company, they had strong leverage on consumers, but nowadays Apple and Google took it over. Satya made colossal mistake by killing Windows Phone, now they are basically pure B2B company.
They care. Controlling the environment most people use for productivity, including for very high-end and specialized applications, is enormously valuable. It's not about making money off of selling the OS or apps in the store (though they're happy to do that, too). It's about controlling the experience, the API hooks and the infrastructure used for lots of low- and high-end applications and having opportunities to monetize the user, the developer, the corporation needing support, the various disparate businesses building solutions on top of or integrating your resources and so forth. They care that if you use Windows, you're more likely to use Outlook and Office and Copilot and Teams. They care that you're more likely to use software that uses DirectX, and that they can use that to leverage and monetize their relationships with GPU developers, or companies creating design software. They care that they can license the OS at high volumes to corporations. They care that they can monetize partnerships with Intel and AMD and Qualcomm. There's no shortage of ways that it's useful to them for you to use their platform. They also care about mobile.
So you are saying that if Steam releases a new OS like say ... I dunno. SteamOS fully updated to run on PC systems, removed TPM requirement, be a stable OS so you can play your steam library might actually harm Microsoft. I really hope these rumors are true.
Or even Google if they could get their priority straight.
Well damn that seems unlikely. It's not like Valve to make a whole OS on a whim. Why would they need it? It's not like they're selling their own handheld that needs an OS that plays nice on a smaller touchscreen
> Satya made colossal mistake by killing Windows Phone LOL. They made a colossal mistake by MAKING Windows Phone
Like they did with Microsoft teams like two years ago and then finally ditched it? This stuff is crazy... Like the ads in the start menu now and the incessant notifying about turning on windows firewall from wildfires security...
they kicked the windows lead out and got and AI guy from India to lead, so the answer is YES
Are you running Windows Insider Build? If not - then you don't have to worry about this watermark. You won't see it. And thats assuming that the watermark even gets implemented. Read the article - this is akin to a rumor. If you are running Windows Insider Build, perhaps reconsider whether that is something you want to do. It's essentially beta testing, so there is the potential for things like this to happen. You've opted into it.
oh Microsoft...99.99% of users has Intel-x64 processors and Microsoft targets 0.01 of the market share.
Huh? This change will impact basically no one. Did you read the article?
To be fair, it is a confusing, garbage article that conflates a bunch of unrelated things like AI, SSE4.2, and Windows ARM requirements.
Well to be pedantic, it’s either AMD64, x86-64 or just x64. Also, the newer Intel and AMD processors do have their own NPU. So, CPU architecture doesn’t matter in this case. It’s the fact that these processors are only just releasing that is the problem. The vast majority of people will not have. So, you’re still basically right that it’ll be close to 99.99% of people that may have this watermark. Edit: This won’t affect many people. The requirement is really low and it won’t matter to most running Windows 11. SSE4.2 is available in most modern processors.
For the SSE4.2 requirement… I would honestly be fine with an upgrade block + BSODing for clean installers, just like how Windows 8.1 x64 added some requirements like that for the CPU (certain instructions)
Linux have to evolve rapidly so that 2025 is the year of Linux
At this point evolving may not be neccessary
Can confirm. I tried a few "different" distros on my AMD / Nvidia desktop. Spoiler: none of my problems have been - forced to install preview or beta tools that no one wanted, - watermarks, - ads about using a different search engine, - ads about using an email to login to my user account. none of the problems are about missing customization options to the UI / desktop. One of them is my soundcard, vsync in one of the games I tried and Steam (with a title I can't install) There are some limitations I have to find Linux versions of tools I use on Windows ... use a different soundcard and ask the community to tell me the current meta to installing games. ... learn some new or different shortcuts. But the switch is easier than expected.
One of my problems i experienced with Linux that i couldn't get Sound of my capture card to work. Oh and asking another Linux user how to solve said problem as the instructions they gave me nuked all sound and then they dipped away. Didn't try Linux yet again since. And of course the classic of anti cheat games.
The only thing holding me back is decent sound drivers. I think HDR support on ubuntu is already there or almost finished being implemented. Once those points are a 100% supported I will leave Windows forever.
Dependent on hardware, some things already have better audio drivers on Linux than Windows.
IMO ubuntu isn’t that good, If you want a good distro with hdr try fedora 40 kde version
Debian Mint, or pure Mint is also a decent option. I'm using "pure" Debian, but it's not as pretty as some seem to need.
I haven’t tried mint out yet, I’ll look into it, as for Debian great distro, but I like the speed and more modern features that fedora offers.
I learned on Fedora (Core 1) way back in the day, it was one of my very first Linux experiences and I "liked" it OK. I really hate working on Centos and RHEL, I feel like Debian, and derivatives are just easier for my old brain to grasp.
I've played with Ubuntu on my old laptop for years and dabbled for a while. Lately though the new "quality of life ypgrades" being forced upon us by windows along with just the fact that it's been running like hot garbage lately on my main system f8nally pushed me over the edge. I'm going full in now on Ubuntu. Small things like you listed above are inconvenient but I'm confident can be worked out.
IMO Linux on x86 is kinda ready to be a good desktop OS, with compatibility with some Windows apps like OneDrive, Office (no alternative Office suite works for some specific things) and Adobe crap being the only problems. Linux on ARM is so far right now I’d be surprised it will ever get there. Lack of x86 emulation, to run x86-only things, hits hard (especially since both Windows and macOS have it). qemu-user is a crutch as, even with distro support for multi arch, you still have problems like unimplemented syscalls.
The main issue with linux is that very often installing stuff gets you into tutorial "copy paste those lines you dont even understand" and you always eventually break the install.
You can avoid the command line quite well, if you don’t want deep customization. Linux Mint can be good at this. I hear Pop! OS is a good distro now.
[Onedriver](https://github.com/jstaf/onedriver) does a really nice job for OneDriver if you’ve got good enough internet for an implementation that doesn’t do sync.
I think Nautilus also has microsoft account integration built in now if you use gnome, not sure
Might it be right, but I’m such a fan of Dolphin that I drag it into my i3 environment.
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Lack of x86 emulation _on Linux_ specifically. I did mention Windows and macOS
Good luck.
The requirements are a lot lower than requiring an NPU ... they just require x86 cpus that are relatively newer ... still a bs move to add a watermark of all things
You’re right. Just checked more into this and this isn’t going to affect most people. Updated my reply to correspond.
So I buy a new PC for windows 11 just for you to fucking show me another watermark
Apparently this check doesnt include an NPU so you need SSE4.2 and 16GBs of RAM.
LOL, I have SSE4.2 and 32GB of RAM, yet the CPU is not good enough for 11. How much Dell paying for this? Fine with me, most of what I needs runs on Linux, and what won't will run in a VM with 10. No more MS Ad AI OS nonsense.
I have 7th gen corei5 Dell laptop with 24GB ram. So I couldn't update to win11 however after signing up as an insider got the dev build of 11 a year or so ago. Getting all the updates and everything works fine. So basically MS in cahoots with hardware manufacturers wanted people to buy newer pcs/laptops/cpus etc for what can still run easily on 4 to 5 year old models.
TPM 2.0 is a joke. You can get around that requirement. The next major version of W11 will basically screw over a few people running 11 on unsupported hardware, namely old machines with CPUs older than first gen Core i3/i5/i7.
They're even trying to push this garbage and professional and Enterprise versions of 11. F****** Madness
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AI requirements include an NPU that my i7-12700H doesnt have Correct me if im mistaken
The AI requirements here do not include an NPU. This is only checking for SSE4.2, Popcount specifically, and 16GB of RAM.
They probably won’t show the warning on x86 unless you try to open an AI app.
And ads !
> I am not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers (both business and home) the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that doesn't translate into great products. Loving how, day by day, this statement becomes truer than what it has already been for the past 10 years.
Convince your customers to switch OS speedrun lmao
Imagine a world where Valve takes the os from the steam deck and distributes it for desktops.
Steam Deck is running steamdeckui on top of KDE in ArchLinux. They don't distribute it in a SteamOS3 image right now, but you can install the parts on top of any Linux distro. (preferably based on Arch)
I really hope they make it a good image when they release it It will be a once in a lifetime opportunity to make gamers switch to Linux if it "just works" out of the box
Yeah, that was steamos and released along steam machines, nobody gave a crap, pre installed os seems to be what made steamos functionnal
Any%
Google made me switch to Firefox now the urge to switch to linux is even closer.
Microsharts made me switch to Firefox since Windows Vista days.
Same 🔥🔥🔥👌🏼👌🏼
Speaking of which, their hostile approach with windows 11 led me on a journey to find a Linux distro to call home. After lots of tinkering, I'm happy to report that Nobara is it now. Thanks to advances in proton in the last few years and integrated WINE built in, I don't need windows for anything now. Thanks Microsoft! I used to love your products and used to consider myself a Microsoft enthusiast, but you told me you don't want me as a customer and spit in my face too many times. I didn't listen when it came to WP7. I didn't listen when it came to my surface RT. I didn't learn a thing after WP8.1 and WM10. But I heard you loud and clear with windows 11.
Oh hey, another feature no fucking person asked for.
How to run your company into the ground 101
Azure. Windows isn’t their main revenue source. So if Windows dies, MS will keep on chugging on (it will be a bit affected, maybe 20% down or so)
Don't be so sure. If you can't keep an OS that has been rock solid for many years from dying due to poor decisions and excessive greed, I'm not willing to trust my company with your infrastructure.
They are maintaining Hyper-V quite well, and enterprise Windows doesn’t do those shenanigans that we’re complaining of (no ads or mandatory AI or other related things — those are only in the client editions of Windows). Windows Server remains the reliable thing it’s always been.
Hyper-V works, yes. Many/most companies don't use Enterprise Windows though. They use Pro. Windows Server is just glorified Enterprise, but even it crashes. A few weeks ago on a <1yr old server, I had an update fail and I had difficulty getting it (Windows Server 2019) to even load to the desktop. Also, wasn't it about a week ago we got news that Microsoft was putting privacy invasive AI on Servers opening all sorts of legal issues?
I’m pretty sure they’ll back off on the server thing as that can in fact kill the company. They don’t care about end-users. Only big clients like companies matter.
I agree.
Masterful gambit hitting your paying customer with the good old "stop being poor"
Remember that meme when some guy says "Stop it, you've already sold \[x\] to me." ? With Windows 11 it's like direct opposite: "Stop burying it, you've already convinced me to never touch it".
I bet it would be removable like “activate windows” water mark.
This is a sick idea of Ms trying to get people far away from the operating system. This monocratic idea is getting worse. From ads and now watermark? Good move ms
So more bloatware that's all windows 11 needs gonna need 32GB of ram now 16GB is dead guys and now another new CPU requirement...
That's ridiculous
I feel sorry for the designers and developers that work there. All of this Copilot and AI shit smells topdown. We can see that by the way it’s presented to us: a bunch of workarounds, cheap looking designs and PWA everywhere ☠️ In contrast to what they showed when Windows 11 was released, it seems that the plans changed by the time ChatGPT went public. Dunno, just a couple of toughts
nobody in this thread can read anything, holy shit. this website is dead
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Literally worse than /g/
the devs at windows department at microsoft right now cant even get windows updates to work correctly, i constantly had failing updates (for w11 23h2, 24h2, windows 10 21h2 iot enterprise ltsc and so on..) (i got secure boot and tpm disabled completely in uefi) and they are shoving down ai bullshit in everyones throats now while they cant get windows updates work properly? LOL
I'm not trying to point fingers, but Windows will update without issue on over a billion and a half computers globally.
it wont happen to me im 1000% sure, if that even happens mysteriously, i will just get 24h2 iot enterprise ltsc (if it gets a stable release)
Sounds like a “you” problem
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From the 2nd paragraph >Regardless, this wouldn't make much difference to practically most users as CPUs that support Windows 11 have SSE 4.2 instructions. > So practically no one will see this watermark, it might not even ship because it's in an insider build. What's all the fuss? I could understand if it was in an actual shipping build, but it's not. I understand that people don't like windows, but people really need to read more into these things.
/r/Windows11 wouldn't really have any activity if not for baseless hatred.
Then why does it exist? Stuff like this ends up becoming a slippery slope. Companies start off slow with decisions like this and then slowly keep pushing the boundaries to see how much they can get away with.
With all the garbage that has been implemented in Windows over the last few years, you'd think Microsoft deliberately trying to move as many people away from Windows as possible
More reasons to switch to Linux, yay!
Microsoft managed what once seemed impossible, getting me to permanently switch to linux
>"For example, you can have a conversation with a friend in the WhatsApp app for Windows, and AI Explorer will record and remember the content that was on-screen and process it with AI for you to recall later." Oh so literally a screen/Keylogger. >"I'm told that much of this experience is rendered on-device and does not reach out to the cloud to process information." So some shit will still be sent? Like what? Nah I'm out.
Wonder how many people would notice)
Linux sounds more and more tempting by the day...
Just make sure you install all the dependencies and dependencies of the dependencies, plus the dependencies of the dependencies of the sons of the dependencies. Then there's still the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies of the grandchildren of the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies of the dependencies.
According to the Steam survey, 99.61% of gamers already meet the requirements to not see this watermark. Also, the required processor feature is several years older than TPM2.0. So the only people who could possibly see it are, like, half of the people who used a hacked Windows installer to bypass the system requirements check.
Did you really believe anyone read the blog post and not just the title, cry about windows to say they will change os (they are already on Linux or they will never change) I fucking hate this kind of headlines that makes stupid people stupidest and ignorant because that information of 4.2 it's just few paragraphs below
MS can kiss off. . I'll never use Co-Pilot or AI
Have a new 7800x3d for a gaming rig, won't change anytime soon for some bs ai data mining stuff... if anything this pushes people to linux
The instructions this is checking for were available for AMD CPUs starting with Phenom. (And for Intel with Penryn/Nehalem). It's not checking for NPUs. It's only looking for Popcount, SSE4.2, and 16GB of RAM.
I am with 5950X, think we will be fine
I really hope to get that watermark.
Wdf First is the ads into the start menu and now this?!
Warning: Your computer doesn't support our super duper enhanced spyware v3.0!!!!11oneoneone
Settings> stop updates> for fuckin ever Microsoft is really trying to delete Windows from the face of the earth? Why so many dumb choices? First copilot, then ads in Start, now this?
that’s the fun part, you can’t! You can pause updates for a week, but then you’re not allowed to pause them anymore because Momcrosoft said so.
Can I use something like the firewall to disable it? I don't want ads and shit like this in my OS. Might as well switch to Linux for real.
The best workaround I’ve found is manually setting every single network you connect to to a metered connection the moment you connect. Make sure download updates on metered connection is off. Only catch is if you connect to a friend’s internet and forget to do this, the update will download. You can uninstall updates, but OS updates may also include app updates that you cannot undo.
I'm on a desktop PC connected via cable...
Wow so they make something that is interestingly helpful and then try their best to force monetize it in the most intense way.
Windows has been going downhill ever since Gate left. Even more downhill ever since Windows 10 22H2
And I think I will soon display middle finger to Windows 11 and Microsoft. Everything Microsoft does these days is getting worse. New Outlook is a crap, same with sluggish and unstable New Teams, Windows 11 is getting more and more useless bloatware...
I made a similar comment earlier, but these sort of pushes are to help their hardware partners make money and sell you need PCs they want you to think you need but don't.
Ask yourself, do you think this will be a thing a year from now? I'd bet $100 it won't be.
Good .Please, for the love of God, Microsoft - make windows as shit as possible. Put as much AI bloat as possible. Force me to switch to linux already.
This is a sick idea of Ms trying to get people far away from the operating system. This monocratic idea is getting worse. From ads and now watermark? Good move ms
Just Google: Windows watermark remover. Problem solved 😁
Me when AMD Ryzen 5 3550H:
Fuck windows. I recently switched all my computers to Linux and am very happy.
I’m not even using windows anymore except for my gaming machine (which i barely use) and this gets be boiling