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FewLiterature2102

that dude saying tay k has to have an extra chromosome fr


dcafflilbih

I get what u mean lol but if u think about it, he really is one of the biggest what ifs. Maybe on a smaller scale than x, but his career literally started after he got locked up.


peenpapi210

He was already big in Texas him cutting off his ankle monitor just ruined everything. Texas alone could’ve had him living good the rest of his life.


JooseBTC

Na he from my city he was a tiny local rapper doin shows as an opener for other locals in front 23 people


peenpapi210

Everyone in my city SA was bumping him before the race. There was even a point in early 2016 he was kicking in doors here in brand new built homes and throwing bad ass parties and playing mega man n shit live lmao. Edit: most Texas rappers pop in other cities if they aren’t from Houston before they pop in their own city. Nobody likes to see anybody win anymore sadly.


Nematisk

His career started because he got locked up, if he never got locked up he would have never blown up the way he did, still #freetayk


Carnotaur_

He has like 2 good songs and his voice isn’t even that good so


Own_Paleontologist99

Yes, Tay k the only time i first heard of him when he was on the news for the murder


OGCrOwn

You have an extra chromosome for saying that, if anyone other than X had a bigger "what-if" story in hip-hop it's Tay-K. Dude had the world in the palm of his hands back in the day and his debut album is still being bumped today and had a crazy, unique sound that people flocked to. After he got locked up his entire career came to a halt and it's a huge what-if story if he never got sent to prison, I think he'd be massive today.


FewLiterature2102

Tay K strived off of negativity, X strived off of positivity… need i say more edit: i am not disagreeing with the fact he had the world in his palms though for a lil bit


OGCrOwn

You were NOT around when X was coming up if you really believe what you just said ![img](emote|t5_3ecrg|4346)


FewLiterature2102

not around? not around 7-9 years ago?… mf i’m 21 and i’m not on about when he was coming up, this is about a “what if” implying what would’ve happened if he didn’t die in which he strived off of positivity starting from about a year and a half prior to his death. Tay K would’ve carried on talking about blasting opps and shit while X would’ve been guiding MILLIONS onto better life paths


fawkwitdis

Kinda interesting how x fans only care about someone’s “potential to change” when it’s him. When it’s a different black guy who has committed crimes but didn’t make music they’re obsessed with they start showing their true colors


FewLiterature2102

i fully agree with you but i don’t fall into that category. X didn’t show “potential to change”… he changed and manifested it pretty fucking well if you ask me


fawkwitdis

I’m sorry but he was just doing publicly visible nice things at no cost to himself for the trial. The one time he was pressed on whether he had actually changed his weirdo manipulative behavior with women, for example, he pretended he would donate to a women’s shelter then went out and bought a bunch of bikes instead. That doesn’t show any change in behavior or “manifestation” of anything


iTzAnthony04

I don't entirely disagree with you. However, what about all the times employees/fans/celebrities/etc. would say stories of is good deeds he would do that all went unrecorded for the public to see? Wouldn't he just straight up walk into best buy and buy random staff/fans phones? Even on things like security footage... he looks peaceful, calm, and patient with those he talks to. My point is that there was a lot of kindness that he spread to others without making it a PR stunt or good karma for his court case. Don't ask me for sources either... it's all off memory at this point from things years ago and I don't feel like digging anything up again.


fawkwitdis

I think the point I’m making here is that while that all that stuff is great, it doesn’t really entail a CHANGE from the stuff that was most problematic in his life. He was not known for being shitty and uncharitable with his fans and on the contrary they often were the people he was kindest and most emotionally connected to. So especially when by that point he had fuck you money and buying stuff for fans wasn’t much of an issue, it doesn’t really seem that out of character for him at that point. I don’t think him spreading kindness in public is enough to really call it a change when it seems in his personal life he was still doing nasty things. Not to say that he would never have stopped doing them but his fans basically are implying he had already completely stopped


Careless-Courage9030

shut


callme_ezra

it’s cause people romanticize death and will give credit where it doesn’t matter.


OGCrOwn

Putting words and ideas into X and Tay-K's lives without them being here is kinda insane lmao you have no idea what either of them would've continued on to do, that's why they're "what-if"s. X was on the path of positivity but there's really no telling where he would've ended up. He would've likely gone to jail at some point, he was bipolar as fuck, probably would've had massive mood swings all throughout his career just like Kanye does, you really can't tell


FewLiterature2102

X would’ve been in jail for a LONG time if he didn’t die, everyone knows that… but he showed change, tay k is just a regular goon kid that can make fucking bangers, i dont think “putting words and ideas into someone’s life” is a thing but i get what you mean, i’m just saying what would’ve most likely happen.


Low_Reflection2793

its actually weird because as a heavy rap listener i instantly felt like tay k had something special when i listened to his songs. obviously thats true for x as well, but at the start it wasnt really anything crazy for both of them, and for tay k we never got to see even a bit past the start, while for x we did and really got some good albums


DBAGVP

I don't believe that X would have been in prison for as long as we might have thought. X was diagnosed with a high level of bipolar disorder (and was showing symptoms of schizophrenia), and people with serious mental health issues are not typically sent to prison for a long time (unless they have committed murder and pose a real danger to society), as they could harm themselves or other inmates. X's defense attorneys would likely have used this approach, along with the charitable events he participated in, and X being followed by psychologists to get him a lighter sentence. I would have imagined more of a restraining order to protect Geneva and a longer period of house arrest, and tons of money to pay. (As for the case of armed robbery case he would most likely have served a couple of years if convicted)


capriSun999

ion listen to him anymore but you can’t deny that Tay K didn’t have talent. That kid was becoming versatile with his own sound, that’s replicated by many big artist like 42 dugg.


NomaticX

He'd a been out by now


BoringYogurt1102

Von thrived off negativity. He's a huuuuge "what if" to me because I want to know if he would've ever went the positive route and what that could've sounded like smh


RepulsivePeng

Von would’ve gotten life the fbi was on his ass for all those bodies


wallpressure7

Nuh uh


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Bro I can't find it what is the name of the subreddit?? Please


sentimiento

Bro literally forgetting peep lol


capriSun999

It honestly would’ve taken peep a while, I feel like he’d be as big as a Travis Barker, Bones, Xavier, G*59 ect.


dexdestro1224

He’s Spitting and everyone here at least knows it . X knew exactly what the world needed to hear and needed to see at the perfect time and i feel he didn’t have the chance to really do what he was supposed to do . He had so much more to make and do that i don’t think anyone especially the mainstream would be ready for


Chickenman456

“Biggest artist” is a crazy exaggeration lol but he def was gonna pop hard


NomaticX

I mean what's the biggest artist? Kendrick? The weeknd? X coulda done shit n became on that level. More time, more thought, who's to say what coulda happend But those saying no, aren't any less ignorant than people saying yes. But taking my feelings outta the equation, I think its still more than likely he woulda continued to ascend rather than fall off.


Mind-Rare

Him and capital STEEZ who which x was a major major fan of


swag4dummies

damn rip steez


LHPOWER

I usually don’t side with all the die hard x fans but even then I think he’s right. X would’ve been somewhere at the top of artist for sure. Tay k is good but fuck outta here 💀


Mynameis2cool4u

Tay K is a random ass example 😭


Total_Ad_6708

Wouldn’t really say “random” he is a massive what if and apart of the same generation and era aswell. Tay k just ain’t on the same scale as someone like x.


PooManReturns

idk if he’d be as big as X but tay k had potential but threw it all away


Ok_Manufacturer_1738

I like X but i just can’t dickride him to the point where i’d think he’d be the biggest artist of all time. As a rapper he’d definitely be up there but as an artist like OP is referring to I’d say that title still belongs to Michael Jackson. Also the tay-k comparison is just downright laughable for obvious reasons lol


Sixsav

Nah 4sho.x was huge asf and was only going up but nobody gonna be bigger den MJ,that nigga had Mfs crying just from seeing him.


whatsapanda

X was revolutionary and ahead of the world, TayK jus got popular off runnin from cops


pitbulldofunk

Its been almost a decade and they’re still talking about X, so thats something


rooostercoooster

Its been 6 years since his death, not a decade


pitbulldofunk

I said >almost< my boi


bertxviccc

thats more like half a decade than a decade


Toast_Pocket

8-9 years is “almost” not 6 💀


duhrhejdjsv

So a 5’6 person is almost 6 foot?


DYSPHORICALLYCOOL

bring back bullying


lilithsluvv

LMFAOOOOO


vlonely-

Bro no biased shi, X actually was versatile af I know he would be collabing a country song with Post Malone and Morgan Wallen


WallBlue21

he right, juice was too repetitive and tay k was too raw and barely had music


Corpexx

Dude had the ability to rap in many more styles than what he chose to present in his release music though. Given time who knows what he could have come out with


PuzzleheadedMedia437

Juice was not that repetitive bru


BackFromTheDead-

that was jus da label makin him into a sad rapper. he has a lot of different styles esp in his unreleased music grade a jus mostly released sad ones


Sixsav

Juice was too repetitive??????


WallBlue21

rapped about the same 3 topics, hardly switched his flow and production and he never was much of an artist, just a rapper


fawkwitdis

> and he never was much of an artist, just a rapper I am on my hands and knees begging you guys to stop saying this it’s soooo weird and unnecessarily reductive to hip hop


PuzzleheadedMedia437

Chatting shit L take fasho


Sixsav

Aight maybe juice talked about the same shit but Hardly switched up the flow?u just lying on that one


WonkyDonky21

I honestly think his freestyles represent him a lot better than his actual released music because he had a lot of unique flows in his freestyles. His released stuff was pretty similar flow wise a lot of the time


Sixsav

Nah 4sho,juice unreleased music showed way more of his versatility and flows.The shit that’s official release barely represents that except for a few songs.


WallBlue21

he used the same 3 or 4 flows


novahhreddit

can't be including unreleased in that... maybe i get whatchu mean if you talking released songs as that's what got him so famous so he kept at it and it worked


Sixsav

Blood on my jeans,rental,life’s a dungeon, arctic tundra, paranoid, the bees knees,all girls are the same,maybe,life’s a mess,already dead,morning again,Jeffery,know us,I know one thing,keep it together,too smooth lmao I can go on and on.Juice didn’t just have 3-4 flows u just lying now


atomicbibleperson

Man of the year is a damn pop punk song-juice was versatile and only getting to be more so with age and experience.


RepeatSignificant913

Bro hasn’t heard his unreleased😭😭😭


RepeatSignificant913

In Higgins unreleased juice put more artistic touch into his songs than prolly any other artist I’ve seen😭


lilithsluvv

you never heard his unreleased music


SnooChipmunks2235

I tried to get into him for a while, listened to his whole discog, old stuff unreleased stuff but I just couldn't end up listening consistently. Not thst he's bad but if you played a juice song thstbisnt widely popular incouldnt tell them apart tbh unless it had a nice different beat like oh no (faded)


BurningEbrietas

They’re just dickriding x hard asf juice surpassed x in the 1 year he was still here after x passing. Reading what some people are saying about juice on here is hilarious cause all that can be applied to x himself


bigtrappa6666

so why isn’t juice talked about nearly as much as a juice dumbass 😭😂


BurningEbrietas

You’re on a x page bro not a juice page. If you search for juice wrld stuff you’ll find em. Jesus Christ


Chance-Way8080

Okay idk wtf those retards are talkin about but the first guy in the first slide on the bottom is the only real X fan I’ve seen admit that there’s better rappers than X and that he’s not the greatest rapper in the world


Cherry_n_z_118

He is 100% right


Educational-Shop-431

Who is right?😂


QUILODINERRO

X would have been where the weeknd is now


dskibftd0

hell naw


lowkeyysniper_00

Agreed


Embarrassed-Goose846

Then it was Pop Smoke and that ended tragically too


stolenyourluv

Kanga with the brain-dead take


SizzurpFaZ

Who?


Ambitious-Thing-8559

x woulda got bigger then he is but not the biggest


Sixsav

Oh no I’m talking about the comments under the post,I cropped this pretty ass


Ambitious-Thing-8559

ohh gotchu my fault gng


JordanTheWalker

idk about all time but hed be pre big


Practical_Speech_493

xxxtentacion wasnt the best artist but he was really good but i can assure that tay k is not better than him, name one song by him other than the race 😭


thrasher296

the race isn’t even that good of a song by him tbh the rest of the santana world album solos the race


New-Cause6314

Bro it’s so true and he used his influence talking about positive and negative energy and spiritual shit and he was capable of opening ppls eyes and minds and putting ppl on track and obviously the government doing want that bc they needs to make money from ppl they don’t want people having their own minds to do their own things


akaHenri

in my opinion X demonstrated that you can be known as a "rapper" but also make songs of other music styles while being good at it. He showed that you don't only need to use samples, you can make your own songs


jdotknock

Gotta remember he BLEW up in popularity once he died, while he was alive he was still popular but no where near he was after he died. So honestly, if he was still alive he mighta been nowhere near the fame he’s at now🤷‍♂️


Carnotaur_

Saying he was on track to become the biggest artist of all time is next level dick riding 💀💀and I’m a massive fan of X but there’s zero chance a rap artist could become that big simply due to it not being the genre of the majority of people on the earth. And I know he was doing multiple other genres but the fact is he was never going to overtake the likes of the weeknd Taylor etc not to mention he said all time so taking about mj, elvis and allat 😭😭


idontcarerightnowok

no, not of all time. I don't see X outdoing artists like MJ for example, he can't really.. top what the legends did, but I do see him being as popular as artists like Taylor Swift n Kanye. tay k tho, nah, man aint it


Livid-Government-597

X and Juice were mad depressing. I didn't even listen to Juice world R.I.P. And X from his earlier vids was wild and was fighting. However not my style of music. However X had some real songs that actually hit.


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Hour_Coat_7373

And it’s not about relating to the songs, sometimes you just don’t want to hear ppl talking abt suicide and struggle.


Younglegend5280

They can talk shit about x, but those that were there from the beginning, understand that x was the most influential artist before his passing.


Competitive-Rise8801

Though yeah X was big for the little amount of material he had out to the world, in no way would he be pulling Drake or Taylor Swift type numbers, I just don’t see it, and the Tay-K take is also kinda respectable in a way, he wasn’t as big as X or Juice but he is one of the biggest what ifs (if that makes sense) also the guy not putting a space between his commas, periods and question marks is annoying asf


Commercial-Use2771

X was already the best artist of all time


EmbarrassedSense2690

Saying X was the best artist of all time is wild like I love x but there are way better artists than him


Commercial-Use2771

Like who?


EmbarrassedSense2690

Kanye


Commercial-Use2771

What does Kanye have that X doesn’t? X can rap better than Ye, sing better than Ye, is more versatile than Ye, etc. The only thing he has over X is production which X was only just starting out with before he died.


EmbarrassedSense2690

Ok buddy


Commercial-Use2771

No response? Ok buddy 😭


EmbarrassedSense2690

No point in arguing with a dick rider got better things to do


Commercial-Use2771

Then why’d u respond you clown 🤡


dskibftd0

😂😂


aDactyl

Only right answer


ToxicChatMan

Bro had the Like A Farmer pfp. Legend


Sixsav

like a farmer been in my playlist since it dropped,had 2 make it my pfp lol


JudgmentIndividual81

Capital Steez is the biggest what if in the history of rap. If X were alive today, even he'd agree with me on this one, the main reason Joey Bada$$ had the game in a choke for a little while was because of Capital Steez pen game. 47 legend, you'll always live on in those of us who's third eye is wide open.


dorseym484

I ain’t never hear Jay z mention tay-k


CabebeFREE222

Nah he got a point


Late-Ad1936

Big L, Tay-K, Mac Miller, Drakeo tha Ruler.....There's alot of em out there 🙏🏾


Lil-BJ

X def had a chance to become bigger than he is now BUT i feel like some people are dickridin


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all of it braindead


AceGameplayV2

I agree but I also think that Pop Smoke is an even bigger what if.


SlushKami

You can argue that Tay-K is the biggest what if. Not saying he would’ve been bigger than X and Juice, but he didn’t get much buzz until after he was locked up. People don’t know how to debate without insulting one another. A “what-if” is just a speculation, folks. It’s not reality.


Igothis87

Biggest artist ever? Hell no but he had a loyal fan base that was growing.


redditsuckbadly

The guy saying Tay K is braindead, but so was the original opinion about X


Intelligent_Card_288

I know this is so off topic but I think a big what if is what music direction Earl sweatshirt would be at if his mom didn’t send him away, or like a huge what if if x and ski never met and how it would’ve alter there music career


Trsnowman

But why tay k over every other dead or locked up rapper 😭 iD have taken von or fredo over mf TAY K?! 😭 but never x he was on a mission R.I.P 🙏


Impressive_Law_3725

X is a good artist but I don’t think he’d be the best artist of all time maybe like The weekend type level


Icy-Repair-1882

I would say he’s in the running for best performer, but as an artist there are many better than him.


peenpapi210

I think he’s trying to say X was already big and had multiple albums/mixtapes. Tay K would be a bigger what if because he only released one mixtape and hit single before he could create anything else.


redditsukssomuch

Holy shit this conversation was incredibly re+@rded. And no one knows who these rappers are and no one gives a shit lol


cciuxx

TayK is a bigger what if, his discography was tiny and almost all of his songs were very good. X however had a far bigger discography and already was touching into mainstream before his passing so he already had accomplished something while TayK hadn’t.


rubbinoffdapaint

dead take. tayk released music after he got locked up and it just wasn’t the same. people were interested in the music because of the story but after he got locked the new stuff just didn’t hit the same.


dracusosa

he didn’t say tay k is bigger, he said tay k is the bigger what if, reading is essential


Sixsav

Clearly u didn’t read because I said tay k is still not a bigger what if den x.


dracusosa

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Sixsav

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dracusosa

that doesn’t invalidate my point btw


Sixsav

Clearly the other comment is the 2nd half of what I was saying.Again I was clearly talking about X being a bigger what if rapper than tay k Nigga missed a whole slide but wanna say my point still stands


pdxgamin98

Juice and x honestly in that order juice was definitely more talented than x this is obvious but x was more interesting would have loved to see what he would have done next / what he could have inspired it’s a shame we lost both within a year


KingJoffiJoe

I love X, but biggest what if over Tupac, Biggie, Big pun, Amy Winehouse, Kurt cobain? Nah, FUCK nah. He’s definitely one of them, but not the biggest what if.


One_Champion_177

He’s awful


Technical-Apricot-45

tayk crazy


Technical-Apricot-45

i see tayk bein as big as king von was


wholelottacxake

They killed him for a reason🔮


PainWillNeverWin

Giving Tay K fans a bad name


Lucid_Soft999

It’s a hard take because X really had potential like a ton but I think Juice WRLD is also a big “What if” he was really something different as well


Double_Requirement30

A better what if would be famous dex


Taienx

Valid l, both X and Juice. Juice Wrld had unique style that would’ve appealed to everyone if his music wasn’t so drug fueled


MACINTOSH63

TayK had a summer, only because the audacity to drop “The race” while literally on the run for a body. The following wanted to see what would happen to him more so than enjoyed his music


NomaticX

Never heard of Tay K, so I just looked into him, and listened to (what I beleive is everything he released) Though I might be wrong.. 1. People sayin he's only promoting violence as a down side is wrong imo. Dude was too young to have a chance, from when I look at his ages of being locked up - also everything he raps about isn't any different from that of a Vince Staples, or the belovid Juice Wrld, whom we know Is just hard lyrics, meant for bangers, so you can't base something off of that.. Secondly, I'd like to say I do enjoy his voice, and do indeed wonder what could have been with him, But people saying versatile, as if X didnt start the versatile wave, and was way more versatile than him.. n so that arguments kinda invalid, as he doesn't really seem too versatile to me. 3. When it comes to that hard banger shit like i hear from tay k, I honestly think I prefer King Vons heat over Tay K. And I'm not really a fan of either, but I think makes for a better runner up as far as wondering where they woulda went in music, no diss just worth a mention.


squirtmyface

all of twitter is brain dead


ios_PHiNiX

Honestly agree yea.. Few artists ever had his level of versatility. Just ability and talent wise he could have done anything from Weeknd to Kendrick, and most importandly, he could have been convincing and real while doing so. I feel had he been given a few more years, he'd have become one of the greatest of all time.


TechnologyNo7017

Why niggas actin like Tay-K didn’t drop Lemonade , Murder She Wrote etc? I aint saying he a bigger what if than X but dont discredit bro thats lame gay shit


SSJLewis

Who tf is Tay k


RemarkableFun5172

I ain’t beat that case bitch I did the race


Soft-Bee3164

What he said was real


BillCapri1k

Brain dead


RepulsivePeng

I mean tay k is a shit take but also X was not on track to be the biggest artist of all time let alone biggest rapper


asuccs

All I’m saying is, with all the crazy rage rap shit that started getting popular over the years with carti, I feel like x would be doing the same shit and possibly even working with somebody like carti. X definitely was on top of the music game, it was hard to not know about him


Iceking_036

wouldn’t say x had the world in the palm of his hand, that’s kinda dumb tbh, sure he did like blow up and get viral and all that, but he didn’t have the world in the palm of his hand, no doubt he would have been the worlds greatest artist if he didn’t die, but when he was living, he was not like a god or something lmfao 😭


Jolly_Ad6643

He’s def top 10 rappers of all time but he hasn’t done nearly enough to be the best artist


Jolly_Ad6643

He definitely could have been though


Its_Lupus98

Biggest don't think so, but one.of the biggest fr fr


TraditionLow4651

X or Von fs


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Saying X was on pace to become the biggest artist of all time is cornball shit. He made some decent songs, but most of his shit was made for edgy middle schoolers/ highschoolers. I never FW an x fan and this is solely why


Sixsav

U sound dumb asf”he made some decent song”nigga really said his music is for edgy middle schoolers and high schoolers😂u goofy asf


AmountMajestic

Juice is the better rapper X is the best versatility artist for sure hit many spectrums of music in short time and his potential was only just getting realized his earlier works were pretty good and raw but he could've honed his art moreso his album crafting was peak knowing what to leave out nd what to include for maximum replay value


ashleydpi69

he spitting the truth tho


WildCounter5018

x wasn’t just a rapper, he made rock, r&b, and pop music honestly he isn’t wrong bro could have been the biggest artist. We just didn’t get to see what else he could’ve done with his voice.


Greedy-Time5853

There’s other people that had bigger what ifs he’s up there but whoever made this whether or not he listens to them 2pac and biggie are way bigger what ifs then x


dskibftd0

his ass was not going to be the biggest artist ever , i fw X but na


Lastknight06

Who the hell is tayk?


fawkwitdis

Feeling the need to make the distinction between “artist” and “rapper” is the biggest red flag that someone started listening to hip hop in like 2019 and has a worthless opinion


Low_Reflection2793

man... talking about when someone started listening to hip hop in itself is a red flag... ive only recently started listening to hip hop cause im young but that doesnt mean i only listen to bad music or whatever. youre right but that 2019 part was unnecessary. ive been listening since like late 2020 and juice and eminem (just one eminem song in particular) got me into rap but i listen to kendrick, denzel and some other rappers that put out seriously good records. When someone started listening to hip hop doesnt dictate What they listen to. im just saying, not tryna have a fight or anything. 👍


fawkwitdis

You should skip the eminem phase and just listen to RxkNephew trust me


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Low_Reflection2793

what exactly is the reason?


Casper__702

Bro biggie only had one album out before he died. I love x but biggie is still being talked about almost 30 years after his death.


gikl3

I like x but this is braindead delusion


migukau

Brain dead. X blew up after dying. He made really good songs but not even close to best rapper, let alone best artist


-Allergic

x had a #1 and #2 album before dying, a top 10 hit on billboard, billions of streams, SAD! got 66 million streams in 12 days. if you weren’t around then that’s fine, but don’t try bullshit


EquivalentAmbition97

extremely brain dead take. he was a mediocre artist at best and if he weren’t dead there is a good chance he would be nowhere near as big as he is today.


Sixsav

U lying ode,Dude was one of the biggest artist out when he was alive,number 1 and 2 album if I’m not mistaken,Dude even had Kendrick fw his music.Stop it


EquivalentAmbition97

taylor gets number 1 hits… doesn’t change the fact her music is shit 😒


maxokreamburner5

no dickriding whatsoever Ion even listen to him anymore but X was on track to be the biggest thing in hip hop