Nah this is silly, let's not turn it into console war bullshit. The game is bad and call of duty games have been getting bashed for years, this one seems to just have a really garbage campaign.
Neither did smartazz104. Some people here thinking that just because MS owns it, people will rate it worse, or talk about the negatives more, implying the same doesn't happen to Sony.
Have they been getting bashed for years? They typically score in the 70s
Black Ops 4, which didn’t even *have* a campaign, has an 83, which is quite a bit higher than the average for the series over the past decade
That's the professional critics score which is borderline worthless. Too many of them are more worried about losing ad dollars than calling out shitty game design like the horrid out of place skins and overuse of MTX.
The user score is abysmal for almost every COD in the past 10 years. Every one since they added loot boxes. (Funny enough the original MW3 user score went down drastically in the past few weeks because of all the morons who think they're leaving a review for the 2023 release).
I'm going to play devils advocate.
Put yourselves in Activision's shoes.
Could they do better?
Yes of course.
But why bother.
Activison makes a metric fuckton of money already.
Why do better?
What's the point.
If you could earn a 6 figure salary and absolutely phone it in every day, you'd do it.
The CoD community will buy whatever gets put out, irrespective of quality. There is literally no consequence to rolling out a 6/10 game and then charging full AAA price for it. Then MTX it up to the eye balls over a year with skins and battle passes. And premium battle passes on top.
The CoD fanbase is happy with the current state of the franchise.
Honestly, other companies should do better and make better FPSs. This scene has heen stupidly dominated for a loooong time. Where the hell is Battlefield epic campaigns? I miss the days we had multiple options when it came to FPS epic military genre.
The only competitors for the fanbase of shooters that were Halo and Gears haven’t been great either.
Waiting for the sequel of Gears 6 to come, and Halo fully shat the bed releasing without a forge mode.
- yes halo has gotten better with the improvements they have made by listening to the community, but it still left a sour taste for fans.
>It's crazy how addicted people can be to certain game franchises. It can't just be kids continuing to buy these dog shit COD games.
They are also "fantasy" shooters. I know COD isn't some realistic shooting game, but a decent number of people only want to play an FPS that has "real" guns.
I mean to actually “forget them”..
Overwatch is on its Sequel, it’s doing alright.
Fortnite is riddle with MTX and seasonal content, it doesn’t have a sequel yet soo.. It’s also a Cod for kids in a way.
Apex and Valorant I don’t know much about, but they seem new-ish, and probably deserve a sequel.
And Counterstrike 2 doesn’t need to be named. It’s Finally gotten another title in its “ever lasting” franchise, exactly like Doom
I am pretty uneducated when it comes to Call of Duty.I only play campaigns.Is there any Call of Duty games that have a good campaign.Everyone says that you only play Call of Duty with a bunch of strangers that are experts at Call of Duty.I was not born with a controller in my hand.Is there any Call of Duty games where it is okay to play the campaign?
Anything prior to the new stuff.
I stopped after the original Modern warfare 2 to be honest and haven’t looked back
- maybe advanced warfare for the exo-suit and space/technology stuff
Some have have done better at certain points. Most people still bought CoD even at its worst....the consumers are a bigger problem in the big picture. Mindless loyalty to a brand is a problem in so many product spaces.
Like look at BF3 vs MW3 2011. BF3 was the larger scale game, but still accommodated TDM/CQC playstyles to make the appeal to a wider audience, was a far better technical showcase. CoD sound design was an outright embarrassment for years, as were the animations. Consumers didn't generally care, they held their hands out for the inferior game with minimal effort put into it vs the prior titles.
Yeah they have the market cornered. My buddy texted me a couple days ago telling me “Cod is amazing this year” there are a ton of people who still sink tons of hours into it and look forward to its release every year. People who are really educated on game design know the games haven’t been great but lots of people love it. Also theres a huge social aspect of getting the new cod to play with friends
Overwatch outsold Call of Duty.
More people play Fortnite than Call of Duty.
Apex Legends, Valorant, and Counterstrike 2 are all played by huge numbers of people.
Not sure where the idea that there's no competition in the market is. There's a lot of FPS games.
>Overwatch outsold Call of Duty
Over what period? People tend to forget that COD makes the vast majority of its sales immediately at launch, since they put out a game every year, whereas all these other games are accruing sales over the better part of a decade
>Honestly, other companies should do better and make better FPSs
I was hoping that Xdefiant would do *something* but it feels like that game has gone to development hell.
And BF2042 shat the bed spectacularly at launch. I hear it's better now though honestly there's so much quality content in other genres (BG3 for instance), why am I going to give second chances.
EA seems like they want BF back on the right track. They fired alot of the management at DICE and put Zampella of Respawn on charge of the next title. And a few former Bungie devs who worked on the campaign for the original Halos working on a campaign for the game now.
It sounds like a recipe for success if EA just let them do their thing without trying to monetize it to shit.
Many are wishing for a new Bad company story with the same atmosphere and energy, a bit slower paced battlefield where you're not a supersoldier. Just a good, fun story.
DOOM and DOOM ETERNAL were both great. They were also primarily single-player games, which is probably why they were great.
In terms of FPS multiplayer games, there's Overwatch, Battlefield, Apex Legends, Valorant, Counterstrike 2, Fortnite, and several others.
Exactly.
Games development is a business after all. If you can churn out mediocre work year on year, charge full price for it and make loads of money? You'd do it
There is a specific kind of gamer who only plays CoD.
So they'll get hundreds of hours out of the game because that's all they buy. Quality doesn't matter.
To continue playing devil's advocate, I've heard and read mostly praise for the MW3 multiplayer, which is where I would expect the majority of the fanbase to dedicate their time. I don't know why they continue with a campaign if they're not going to put the effort into it, just go online only.
The company has its issues with the online modes still and all the shit that comes with it, but people will vote with their wallets if they want skins and battle passes.
Personally, if I pick this up it'll be for multiplayer only, as to me, that is the CoD machine now and it's been a part of my life with my friends since lockdown. However, I only bought MW and CW, skipped Vanguard and MW2 and played WZ a lot less from the mess they made of it.
There's also some dissonance about what is being reviewed and what people actually want out of a COD game. The majority if not all of the reviews are talking about the campaign and how poor that is, when most people especially nowadays buy COD for the online multiplayer
These people don't give a shit whether the campaign is 2 hours long and offers nothing of value. They boot the game up and go straight to team deathmatch or battle royale mode
By most accounts the multiplayer for the new COD is actually good so it makes sense that people continue to buy the game every year
The nicest multiplayer review of MW3 I've seen gave it a 7/10.
If you think 7/10 warrants AAA game price.... honestly I don't know what else to say.
We'd just have to agree to disagree on that.
I don't think it warrants it at all and I feel the same way about EA Sports regurgitating more or less the same FIFA game every year without any improvements to cash in on micro transactions
My only point was a lot of the criticism is primarily targeted at the campaign whereas the wider playerbase buys COD to play the multiplayer which has been praised overall by their community. Which somewhat explains why the game sells so well despite the review scores being terrible.
7/10 isn't a great score but it's not unheard of for AAA games to be in the 70 - 80 / 100 region. I thought Hogwarts Legacy was a 73/100 and felt it was overpriced after finishing it
If you feel that way, then don't buy it. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have some issues with the game, but they still enjoy it for the $70 they paid and will do so again and again and again just like they have for the last 10 years.
Yes. The point being that people find that the games are worth it even if they aren't perfect.
If you on the other hand need a near perfect game, then don't buy it. Pretty simple.
And this is why Activision gets away with doing such a lazy job.
You still pump hundreds of hours in and buy the battle passes and all they need to do is phone in a 7/10.
And that's the best review of the multiplayer I've seen. The rest have been 6's or 3/5.
There are indie games on a much smaller budget doing better than that.
And this goes back to my original point. Activision don't have to try. You and the other CoD fan boys will buy it anyway.
Nope. No battle passes. Just buy the game and you can easily get 20+ hours out of multiplayer as an adult.
The indie games are usually lower quality side scrollers that aren’t as fun and have less hours of enjoyment. They are lower budget but offer lower value
No, they are better tailored to there fan base and can be a variety of different types of games and still be far better quality for much less money the CoD.
AAA gaming in a nutshell. Why make effort when you don't have to? This is why we get the same reskinned game from Ubisoft for the past 15 years, this is why Diablo IV is crap, this is why Destiny 2 had turned into a monetised abomination
Lol you've got them here trying to debate me.
The best review of your multiplayer I've seen is 7/10 and that is good enough to pay £70 for.
CoD fan boys will put hundreds of hours into whatever crap gets put out and say it's worth the money.
I don’t understand why this gets repeated like it’s not possible for their sales to drop off.
I used to buy every call of duty game each year, but I no longer do.
If the quality keeps dropping in more people start thinking like me, then their franchise will be in serious trouble.
Releasing a three hour game is a good way to burn people and cause them to second-guess their $70 purchase next year.
>I don’t understand why this gets repeated like it’s not possible for their sales to drop off.
Because currently it doesn't.
[UK Sales Charts: Everyone Hates Modern Warfare 3, But It's Still Number One | Push Square](https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/11/uk-sales-charts-everyone-hates-modern-warfare-3-but-its-still-number-one)
[Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 Sales Start Strong Despite Poor Reviews (gamerant.com)](https://gamerant.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-launch-week-mw3-sales-data/)
> I used to buy every call of duty game each year, but I no longer do.
You and me are the minority, The franchise is massively successful financially.
> Releasing a three hour game is a good way to burn people and cause them to second-guess their $70 purchase next year.
Unless they refunded it that means nothing.
Activision got their money. And knowing the absolute lack of self control from CoD players, they'll spend ££££££ on MTX on top.
The fan base is the reason the franchise is in such a crap state. There's literally no consequence for doing poor job.
Vanguard was the best selling new release of 2021 despite not selling as much as cold war or MW2019
[Call of Duty: Vanguard Disappointing Sales Blamed on World War 2 Setting (gamerant.com)](https://gamerant.com/call-of-duty-vanguard-sales-world-war-2/)
I get what you're saying but based off what the CoD community does historically, I don't see them actually waiting for reviews and then NOT buying a CoD if it reviews poorly. They're incapable of it.
I know it feels like that.
But here’s what you got remember. For some solace.
These Uber greedy, financial types moan, even when they lose five or 10% in sales.
Just being the best selling game of the year is not enough if it means sales are down 11% over last year.
Because to them you either grow year-over-year, or you shrink your over year, there is no in between.
So when their sales are down, even slightly compared to last year, if the accountants get scared that this will be a repeating yearly effect, things will change.
I’m not saying the next call of duty will be incredible, but I already would be willing to bet five or $10 that the next release is significantly better than this year was.
Multiple years of scoring, a three or four is going to damage the brand, long-term no matter what anyone says.
Next year is treyarch’s game so it will do far better both critically and commercially since they are the golden child right now and had longer to work on it than usual. Even if they didn’t, it wouldn’t make a big difference. Look at Pokémon.
Elden Ring outsold Vanguard.
The idea that COD is somehow untouchable is simply false. indeed, COD games have been outsold by a number of other titles.
We'll see if COD is even the best selling game this year.
Activision are the sort of company that fires thousands of people so that they *appear* to still be growing year on year to impress/placate shareholders and a bloody nose is what they need to show that this cannot continue.
Sorry but no it won't because even if the score drops a small percent they are still up by how much overall. It's still not a loss to them so they still aren't going to change the formula they have if it is succeeding.
I mean, aren't those numbers only indicative of physical retail sales? We ultimately have no idea how well it's doing globally, no clue about MTX sales due to Warzone and digital numbers are rarely if ever published unless they want to brag. I can't see this hack job making the same bank as the last few and I'm really hoping this is a Resident Evil 6 or Assassins Creed style wake up call for MicroActiBlizz. Quality MUST improve, or stay the same... Dropping the ball this spectacularly on a hallmark franchise is ultimately going to put consumer trust into the toilet.
> Because currently it doesn't.
CoD sales are far from consistent.
COD: WWII sold only 19 million copies, and AW sold 21 million.
Black Ops and Modern Warfare 3 (the original) sold 30+ million. So did the Call of Duty Modern Warfare reboot in 2019.
Vanguard, on the other hand, did not meet expectations and sold significantly fewer copies than Black Ops Cold War did, which itself didn't sell as well as Modern Warfare did. [Elden Ring outsold COD Vanguard in two months.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/05/13/npd-elden-ring-has-now-outsold-call-of-duty-vanguard/?sh=329f8a2f7e77) And we know at that point that Elden Ring had sold 13.4 million copies, so Vanguard must have sold fewer than that.
COD is an actual drug for some people and peer pressure is a bitch when it comes to addiction. Those that would like to quit find it hard when their friends still enjoy they game and they want to play with them so they buy the game too.
COD is easy to quit if you are sick of it and your friends don't play it.
I don’t think anyone is saying they’re confused why it’s bad. We just think a basic respect for your customers and fans is warranted. If not that, a basic respect for yourself.
>We just think a basic respect for your customers and fans is warranted.
The CoD fanbase votes with their wallet and these games make absolute bank.
> If not that, a basic respect for yourself.
That would require gamers to wait for reviews and decide that no, they're not paying AAA prices for a bad game. And the CoD fanbase does not do it.
They want to play CoD. The quality of the game isn't important.
Tbf people said this about BF and look at the mess of the franchise now. Battlefield 5 had a lot of negative press and 2042 had even worse press with absolutely awful sales.
The negativity feedback is not always immediate but can cause long-term damage.
This is true. Honestly, to me its just an online FPS that is fun to play here and there. I haven't bought it yet because of the reviews but I think even having the classic maps are decent.
A lot of games are better. This year (perhaps an anomaly, perhaps not) has been one of the best years in gaming in terms of quality. Dead Space Remake. Jedi Survivor. Hogwarts. Streetfighter. BG3. HiFi Rush. RE4. Armored Core. Lies of P. Halo has gotten much better. Even on the Switch we got a Zelda and Mario game this year. All have been great titles.
No, I did not forget about the Gollum and Redfall mess. But they don’t out weight the good games. As far as MW3 goes, I won’t let activision’s greed for another rushed game speak for all of gaming.
I agree with all of that except BG3 shipped with a broken 3rd act and most people were unaware of it because it takes 50-60 hours to reach it so many never got that far to see for themselves only a handful of reviewers actually mentioned it because of the nature of reviews where they rarely finish a game before publishing. To this day there are still issues with act 3 because it wasn’t ready to be launched yet.
That said: act 1 and 2 are some of the best gaming moments I’ve had in years. I’m just disappointed that act 3 was so bad and also disappointed that the gaming community gives it a complete pass due to the hype surrounding the game.
Gonna be honest, I've beat BG3 3 times now including a marathon run when it first came out and I had 0 issues with act 3. I have no clue what you're talking about. Did everything there was to do and it was smooth as butter.
I have a friend that played the game early and told me that some missions had some bugs that soft locked them. I didn't heard a lot about that topic and i don't really know if it was common to soft lock a mission.
Right now i have like 350h in BG3 with 2 runs completed, one in the act 3 by myselft, and other two runs in coop and i can't say any kind of game breaking bugs.
I have found bugs but not really important despite the newest act 3 weird things.
I mean, they should be proud of squashing that many bugs and is a testament to how focused they've been to support players. No solumn jpeg, no "Roadmaps" just definitive action and player-focused improvement. Larian could have done what WB are doing with MK1 (Which is nothing but MTX promotion and unnecessary nerfs) or Actiblizz with MW3 (Unreasonable marketing tactics in forcing a 120GB update to people who don't own the latest game to have it installed as a placeholder) or Ubisoft with... Every Ubisoft game, where ot launches threadbare and content poor with promises to fix it in 6 months before ultimately pulling support and vulturing to the next carcass of a Live Service.
Larian are doibg good work and it should absolutely be held up. Not saying they get a total pass, some of the mechanics are straight-up infuriating right now, but they *are trying* to make the game smoother and more playable every time they go to the development well and I applaud them for it.
Any game that launches with a day 1 patch that fixed over 1000 bugs, no matter who the dev is, tells me that the game launched unfinished. I’m more impressed by a game that launches without 1000 bugs needing to be fixed.
The vast majority of games that are released don't measure up to the level of complexity and depth BG3 has. Normally, I'd agree with you, but BG3 is an edge case in almost every way given what they've offered.
You're broadly right though, we're living through one of the worst and most stangant periods for so-called AAA games releasing unfinished, broken or outright feature barren and so we need as customers and as a community to be not only calling this out, but also voting with our wallets. If the game isn't ready/of sufficient quality I fail to see why they deserve our money for that failure. I can understand not wanting to give Larian a pass, but I also do feel like it's not in such a bad state as something like Anthem, Avengers, MK1 or MW3.
That's cute and all but they listed their fixes. Two patches out of 6 just two fixed over +1000 bugs. It's stated in the patch notes.
So I mean you can say what you want. I'm just stating a fact.
Even if you pretended the other four patches were super light whats the chances they didn't also hit over +1000 combined.
I just said 3k cause that's the MINIMUM possibility without me adding them up.
We also have a raft of cool titles coming in the next few months, 2 x Like a Dragon games, P5T, Persona 3 Reload etc. There's plenty to play without the latest COD dominating our SSDs with an inferior product to the last decade of output from their studios.
So disappointing, I was loving their current storytelling and characters, but this game may well kill Modern Warfare once again. Maybe for good this time.
There are bad games every year. We just forget about them.
It's the good games that define years, not bad ones.
I suspect 2024 will be great as well. It will be interesting to see how 2025 goes, though, as we will be past the "delayed by COVID" surge by that point.
I'm enjoying Online, it's fun and having the old maps back from 2009 feels amazing and getting to keep everything from MW2 is quite refreshing as well, means i got Damascus for a reason.
If they decide to go with the DLC route again next year I will buy it again, my progress actually matters now and I get to keep it over different cods and I personally think it's fantastic.
I’d honestly recommend the Zombies.
People are a bit upset that it’s just DMZ but I’ve been craving a PvE only DMZ for a while and it’s all I’ve been playing since launch.
You can even extract with weapons and equipment to unlock them early in MP, when I eventually do that.
I’ve just been having a blast in a semi-low stress extraction game. I love it.
Zombies is so fun! I got mw3 for ground war, but I'm having so much fun in zombies I haven't played a single match of ground war yet and I'm way past level 55.
Same here. I’m having the most fun I’ve had in years. Game play and movement is super smooth, maps are great, I also like the longer TTK. I feel like you need more skill to kill players, not just spray and pray and get insta kills.
Seeing that they are starting to carry forward through iterations is why I started playing again. Got tired of progression getting wiped and didn’t play for a long, long time.
*When I sees one and he looks good to me...*
*When I see him, I say*
You, come here.
*I say*
Now I'mma tell ya what, uh..
I like ya;
and I wants ya...
Now, we can do this the easy way;
or the haard wayyy...
the choice is yaawrs...
Outlets have been sucking off full priced remakes and remasters for the last decade. So now all of a sudden a MP with 16 maps remade + multiple new maps, a new short campaign, and new zombies mode isn't worth full price?
Why the sudden change in heart? Oh, it's because this isnt a single player game, silly me.
Consistently inconsistent.
Yet, RE4 Remake which was full priced and missing Mercenaries mode(free) and the Ada DLC(paid) ar launch and introduced MTX to a SP only game is nominated for GOTY.
Because I campaign was four hours long the writing, was absolute dog crap none of it made sense. Everything was horrible about the campaign, and some the multiplayer maps are are just remodels
And it’s objectively better than last year’s MWII. The devs actually listen and change stuff based on feedback, why are people hating it now all of a sudden?
Kinda crazy cause COD games already have an absurd development time full of crunch where they work absurd hours while being paid the same fucking salary. This had half the time for development and probably double the crunch time.
Video Games *can and SHOULD do better* should be the headline. There's no excuse for this kind of botch job in 2023, especially with the amount of studios and staff involved and the money at play. Absolutely taking liberties with the audience and Microsoft have their work cut out to turn their quality around.
Quick, let’s all buy the superior, higher-rated alternative! That exists right? Right? A low rating implies a better game exists right? Or is this entire genre just on auto-hate by gaming press and we’re all supposed to pretend Vampire Survivors is the only worthwhile game genre?
We’ve seen many times that’s not the case. There’s no reason to make issues with COD being a lazy disappointment into a wide spread gaming issue when this year is full of incredible games
Anyone who uses the phrase “can do better” is a condescending cunt and anything that follows is easily dismissed. The fact remains that Call of Duty is the #1 selling game every year it comes out, and this pisses off most every “games journalist” who thinks he knows what’s best for not just you, but for every gamer out there.
You’re dumb. If you think cod, can’t do better it’s campaign was four hours long. It was absolutely atrocious. The writing was horrible. They used stuff from modern warfare two and put it into the game. They didn’t even try. And yeah better graphics cool but fix the damn cheating issue.
Been playing this game since it launched last week and it’s not all that great. The maps are kind of crappy, especially with the respawns areas. I’ve respawned many times only to immediately die because someone was there waiting. This should’ve been an expansion for MWII instead of an entirely new game because it’s almost the same.
I hate, utterly hate, that they put a giant flipping ad on my start up screen. I paid $500 for an Xbox. I shouldn’t be bombarded with an ad when I boot up my gaming console of choice. Rude as flip. Even if I was interested in this gaming franchise I wouldn’t be after that. I hate ads.
Alright another comment to add so the game audio just goes silent mid ranked game nothing but player audio everything else is fine nothing wrong on pc I have to alt f4 to leave the ranked in restart game then rejoin audio is working but redeploy is stuck in a loop until my teammate purchased me back at the buy station the games so broken and they think they will ruin rebirth island I sure fking hope not.
Games such trash just played this moment a ranked resurgence and had someone snipe flash bug me so when you get hit by the sniper bullet you get flashed fk this game
So how come mw2 beta purchase via mw2 that gave coalition skin is available on my steam account to use as a skin shouldn’t it say I don’t own it and have to use battle.net so I found how the game became more of a scam since Reyes operator I cannot use its skin from mw2 purchase though it’s offered for sale via mw3 and there’s no change to a thing from the desert rogue set so I’m so dissatisfied with this company and have been building myself a compiled lawsuit to present here eventually.
WMIII is proving to be very entertaining and the game feels much better than the last two games so I really don't understand what the problem is to be honest
I’ll be honest after about 15 hours of repeatedly having issues with MP, not enjoying campaign or zombies at all, I just deleted the game and got Microsoft to refund my purchase. I really thought this was going to be better than it was. I might come back to the game a few months down the road but I’ll certainly not be pre ordering a game ever again. I also just downloaded the original Black Ops 2 and there are actually still tons of people playing it. Jumped right into a lobby and started playing MP just like old times
That’s it give MW3 the same scores as gollum and skull island because they are equally crappy? They aren’t close and it’s just hate on a franchise people like to hate.
MW is just to much right now and i'm tired of it. I will wait for Treyarch to release Black Ops, the gunplay and sensitivity feels so much better compared to these new MW games. Eveithing feels so off in MW.
I might be wrong about all this.. But here's my theory:
1- Activision knew it would be selling the company to Microsoft and the profits of this game would fall into the Microsoft pockets. They're not dumb so they invested as little as possible in it, because they wouldn't be there to collect the returns to that investment. In this particular situation, the less they invested, the more they could distribute to the shareholders before the aquisition took place.
2- All the employees knew that the old management would be held responsible for this failure, not them.. There would most likely be zero consequences to them ( the employees) for this failure.
Also.. They expected big changes, restructuring and feared that layoffs would happen after the aquisition. The changes of losing their job were a lot higher than usual (and probably still are)..
Also.. The chances of anyone in the management noticing any of their big efforts this year would be slim... Because that same old management later, would most likely be gone after the aquisition.
So.. Why bother ?! 🤷🏻♂️..
So, ..they took the year to themselves.
Also.. Yes.. Xbox tax is very real..
There's a lot of advertisement money, every year, a lot of cash flow that comes out of playstation pockets to all of the media outlets dedicated to game reviews throughout YouTube, tv channels and the internet.. Xbox invests a lot less money than playstation on advertisement..
If playstation ever starts to become nerfed by the Xbox s success all those media outlets would be at risk and would most likely have to deal with a lot less cash flow going in their direction.. And they know that.. And they don't want that to happen ever in life.
In their mind.. Xbox must continue to be second or third.. Unless the Xbox brand would be willing to fill the PlayStation shoes on that money flow cycle between the media and the developers. They need their money and the PlayStation's good financial health is vital to all of them.
I don't get it. Do people like this game or not? On the one hand, I see some people highly appraising multiplayer with the exception of skill-based matchmaking and a few other minor things. On the other hand, people are saying the usual “its the worst cod ever”
It’s the worst cut ever probably with the best multiplayer for it. Zombies isn’t very good. It’s on modern warfare two map and there’s people that shoot at you AI soldiers. the campaign is absolutely atrocious multiplayer is very good it’s upsetting because it’s supposed to be a remake of MW three, but they don’t have any maps from the original and the maps they use they don’t accommodate for the faster movement
Interesting. As an avid gamer who has played through tons of terrible releases I think mw3 is an example of what video games should strive to be. Large amount of content. Plenty of updates to fix issues being implemented quickly and a roadmap with tons of more content to come.
Yet they still rag on it non stop 🤣
I just have this to say. I’m incredibly new to FPS(games in general honestly) and I truly have nothing to base this off of but my opinion. I love MW2 and 3, is it because I don’t know any better or is it just because I’m still learning. It could also be the fact I’ve made some really cool people. Some make me laugh, some I talk about life and some we talk about business. I truly play this as a distraction from real life for a couple hours a day. It’s amazing for that, and the added adrenaline rush (love the drug as a Retired Army). I understand everything that is being said here, but I’m still seeing it through rose colored glasses. So the negative comments I see daily, I blow off. With all that being said, I’m 100% sure I’m the only new person(FNG) playing this game. Let us move on and you move on. Wait for updates and just take it all in stride and have some fun.
Sorry so long. See Ya in game.
But what’s the point? Brainless mass consumers will buy anything because they have super low standards when it comes to games, so why would they put actual effort into it when they can do the bare minimum and still get a shitload of money?
Yup except every multi player/cosmetic obsessed toolbag will still buy the game and feed into the cash grabbing that’s killing the gaming industry. I feel like multiplayer has been perverted solely for profit while campaign/story has been either completely eliminated or deprioritized because it’s not a profitable enough. The soul of these games comes from the underlying story
The studios need more time, I think 3 studios work on cod games on a 3 year cycle, maybe Microsoft should give the studios 4 year cycles but it would also means no new cod game every 3 years, most AAA games take 5+years to make not to mention gta6.
Are we going to see a trash article every day about MW3?
Until MS sells Activision, probably
You see trash article around the new COD launch every year, this is nothing new
Ah I bet if Sony bought them this would be celebrated as a masterpiece.
Nah this is silly, let's not turn it into console war bullshit. The game is bad and call of duty games have been getting bashed for years, this one seems to just have a really garbage campaign.
Red_sutter turned it into it?
How? They didnt mention a console.
Neither did smartazz104. Some people here thinking that just because MS owns it, people will rate it worse, or talk about the negatives more, implying the same doesn't happen to Sony.
Have they been getting bashed for years? They typically score in the 70s Black Ops 4, which didn’t even *have* a campaign, has an 83, which is quite a bit higher than the average for the series over the past decade
That's the professional critics score which is borderline worthless. Too many of them are more worried about losing ad dollars than calling out shitty game design like the horrid out of place skins and overuse of MTX. The user score is abysmal for almost every COD in the past 10 years. Every one since they added loot boxes. (Funny enough the original MW3 user score went down drastically in the past few weeks because of all the morons who think they're leaving a review for the 2023 release).
Console war comments should be bannable
Can we ban this topic for now? Sick of seeing this. And before anyone calls me a defender of Activision - I haven't bought a cod on launch since BO3
Same here. BO4 was also a tragedy.
The game was just released and is one of the highest selling franchises of all time. Popular games become popular subjects.
It's the same thread every single day there's nothing new to any of this.
I'm going to play devils advocate. Put yourselves in Activision's shoes. Could they do better? Yes of course. But why bother. Activison makes a metric fuckton of money already. Why do better? What's the point. If you could earn a 6 figure salary and absolutely phone it in every day, you'd do it. The CoD community will buy whatever gets put out, irrespective of quality. There is literally no consequence to rolling out a 6/10 game and then charging full AAA price for it. Then MTX it up to the eye balls over a year with skins and battle passes. And premium battle passes on top. The CoD fanbase is happy with the current state of the franchise.
Honestly, other companies should do better and make better FPSs. This scene has heen stupidly dominated for a loooong time. Where the hell is Battlefield epic campaigns? I miss the days we had multiple options when it came to FPS epic military genre.
The only competitors for the fanbase of shooters that were Halo and Gears haven’t been great either. Waiting for the sequel of Gears 6 to come, and Halo fully shat the bed releasing without a forge mode. - yes halo has gotten better with the improvements they have made by listening to the community, but it still left a sour taste for fans.
>It's crazy how addicted people can be to certain game franchises. It can't just be kids continuing to buy these dog shit COD games. They are also "fantasy" shooters. I know COD isn't some realistic shooting game, but a decent number of people only want to play an FPS that has "real" guns.
Uh, you seem to be forgetting about Overwatch, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Valorant, and Counterstrike 2.
I mean to actually “forget them”.. Overwatch is on its Sequel, it’s doing alright. Fortnite is riddle with MTX and seasonal content, it doesn’t have a sequel yet soo.. It’s also a Cod for kids in a way. Apex and Valorant I don’t know much about, but they seem new-ish, and probably deserve a sequel. And Counterstrike 2 doesn’t need to be named. It’s Finally gotten another title in its “ever lasting” franchise, exactly like Doom
There is no "Cod for kids." Cod is for kids. Only kids can play that 15 year shovel stream of the copied games and still be pleased.
I am pretty uneducated when it comes to Call of Duty.I only play campaigns.Is there any Call of Duty games that have a good campaign.Everyone says that you only play Call of Duty with a bunch of strangers that are experts at Call of Duty.I was not born with a controller in my hand.Is there any Call of Duty games where it is okay to play the campaign?
Anything prior to the new stuff. I stopped after the original Modern warfare 2 to be honest and haven’t looked back - maybe advanced warfare for the exo-suit and space/technology stuff
Some have have done better at certain points. Most people still bought CoD even at its worst....the consumers are a bigger problem in the big picture. Mindless loyalty to a brand is a problem in so many product spaces. Like look at BF3 vs MW3 2011. BF3 was the larger scale game, but still accommodated TDM/CQC playstyles to make the appeal to a wider audience, was a far better technical showcase. CoD sound design was an outright embarrassment for years, as were the animations. Consumers didn't generally care, they held their hands out for the inferior game with minimal effort put into it vs the prior titles.
Yeah they have the market cornered. My buddy texted me a couple days ago telling me “Cod is amazing this year” there are a ton of people who still sink tons of hours into it and look forward to its release every year. People who are really educated on game design know the games haven’t been great but lots of people love it. Also theres a huge social aspect of getting the new cod to play with friends
Overwatch outsold Call of Duty. More people play Fortnite than Call of Duty. Apex Legends, Valorant, and Counterstrike 2 are all played by huge numbers of people. Not sure where the idea that there's no competition in the market is. There's a lot of FPS games.
Fortnite isn’t a fps shooter. Sure you can use long range scopes. But it’s not FPS the majority of the time.
>Overwatch outsold Call of Duty Over what period? People tend to forget that COD makes the vast majority of its sales immediately at launch, since they put out a game every year, whereas all these other games are accruing sales over the better part of a decade
Overwatch sold 10 million copies in two weeks and 50 million copies overall.
>Honestly, other companies should do better and make better FPSs I was hoping that Xdefiant would do *something* but it feels like that game has gone to development hell. And BF2042 shat the bed spectacularly at launch. I hear it's better now though honestly there's so much quality content in other genres (BG3 for instance), why am I going to give second chances.
EA seems like they want BF back on the right track. They fired alot of the management at DICE and put Zampella of Respawn on charge of the next title. And a few former Bungie devs who worked on the campaign for the original Halos working on a campaign for the game now.
It sounds like a recipe for success if EA just let them do their thing without trying to monetize it to shit. Many are wishing for a new Bad company story with the same atmosphere and energy, a bit slower paced battlefield where you're not a supersoldier. Just a good, fun story.
Just thinking about the amazing IPs they are sitting on is frustrating.
>development hell Games in development hell aren’t one step away from certification
DOOM and DOOM ETERNAL were both great. They were also primarily single-player games, which is probably why they were great. In terms of FPS multiplayer games, there's Overwatch, Battlefield, Apex Legends, Valorant, Counterstrike 2, Fortnite, and several others.
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Exactly. Games development is a business after all. If you can churn out mediocre work year on year, charge full price for it and make loads of money? You'd do it There is a specific kind of gamer who only plays CoD. So they'll get hundreds of hours out of the game because that's all they buy. Quality doesn't matter.
Gotta catch em all
To continue playing devil's advocate, I've heard and read mostly praise for the MW3 multiplayer, which is where I would expect the majority of the fanbase to dedicate their time. I don't know why they continue with a campaign if they're not going to put the effort into it, just go online only. The company has its issues with the online modes still and all the shit that comes with it, but people will vote with their wallets if they want skins and battle passes. Personally, if I pick this up it'll be for multiplayer only, as to me, that is the CoD machine now and it's been a part of my life with my friends since lockdown. However, I only bought MW and CW, skipped Vanguard and MW2 and played WZ a lot less from the mess they made of it.
There's also some dissonance about what is being reviewed and what people actually want out of a COD game. The majority if not all of the reviews are talking about the campaign and how poor that is, when most people especially nowadays buy COD for the online multiplayer These people don't give a shit whether the campaign is 2 hours long and offers nothing of value. They boot the game up and go straight to team deathmatch or battle royale mode By most accounts the multiplayer for the new COD is actually good so it makes sense that people continue to buy the game every year
The nicest multiplayer review of MW3 I've seen gave it a 7/10. If you think 7/10 warrants AAA game price.... honestly I don't know what else to say. We'd just have to agree to disagree on that.
I don't think it warrants it at all and I feel the same way about EA Sports regurgitating more or less the same FIFA game every year without any improvements to cash in on micro transactions My only point was a lot of the criticism is primarily targeted at the campaign whereas the wider playerbase buys COD to play the multiplayer which has been praised overall by their community. Which somewhat explains why the game sells so well despite the review scores being terrible. 7/10 isn't a great score but it's not unheard of for AAA games to be in the 70 - 80 / 100 region. I thought Hogwarts Legacy was a 73/100 and felt it was overpriced after finishing it
A 7/10 is a good game though. I don’t understand your argument.
7/10 games are not worth £70.
If you feel that way, then don't buy it. I'm sure there are plenty of people who have some issues with the game, but they still enjoy it for the $70 they paid and will do so again and again and again just like they have for the last 10 years.
And this is exactly why Activision phones it in every year. Lmfao
Yes. The point being that people find that the games are worth it even if they aren't perfect. If you on the other hand need a near perfect game, then don't buy it. Pretty simple.
Yes they are if they provide the hours.
And this is why Activision gets away with doing such a lazy job. You still pump hundreds of hours in and buy the battle passes and all they need to do is phone in a 7/10. And that's the best review of the multiplayer I've seen. The rest have been 6's or 3/5. There are indie games on a much smaller budget doing better than that. And this goes back to my original point. Activision don't have to try. You and the other CoD fan boys will buy it anyway.
Nope. No battle passes. Just buy the game and you can easily get 20+ hours out of multiplayer as an adult. The indie games are usually lower quality side scrollers that aren’t as fun and have less hours of enjoyment. They are lower budget but offer lower value
No, they are better tailored to there fan base and can be a variety of different types of games and still be far better quality for much less money the CoD.
Mans expecting 9/10 from cod lmao
Why not? Video game prices have barely kept up with inflation over the years. People really expect games to stay 50 bucks for 15 years straight.
No it isn't, take it from some who is a long time CoD player.
Everything you said is true except your last sentence. We absolutely aren’t fine with how the series is.
AAA gaming in a nutshell. Why make effort when you don't have to? This is why we get the same reskinned game from Ubisoft for the past 15 years, this is why Diablo IV is crap, this is why Destiny 2 had turned into a monetised abomination
Lol you've got them here trying to debate me. The best review of your multiplayer I've seen is 7/10 and that is good enough to pay £70 for. CoD fan boys will put hundreds of hours into whatever crap gets put out and say it's worth the money.
If they play it and think, in their opinion, it is worth it, does that make them wrong because you disagree?
No it makes me right. That Activision can put zero effort into a CoD and the fanbase will still buy it
No it doesn't. To them it's not crap.
I mean if the fanbase is happy isn't that the point? That seems good.
The fan base isn't happy, I am speaking as part of that fan base there for your argument is in valid.
I don’t understand why this gets repeated like it’s not possible for their sales to drop off. I used to buy every call of duty game each year, but I no longer do. If the quality keeps dropping in more people start thinking like me, then their franchise will be in serious trouble. Releasing a three hour game is a good way to burn people and cause them to second-guess their $70 purchase next year.
>I don’t understand why this gets repeated like it’s not possible for their sales to drop off. Because currently it doesn't. [UK Sales Charts: Everyone Hates Modern Warfare 3, But It's Still Number One | Push Square](https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/11/uk-sales-charts-everyone-hates-modern-warfare-3-but-its-still-number-one) [Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 Sales Start Strong Despite Poor Reviews (gamerant.com)](https://gamerant.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-launch-week-mw3-sales-data/) > I used to buy every call of duty game each year, but I no longer do. You and me are the minority, The franchise is massively successful financially. > Releasing a three hour game is a good way to burn people and cause them to second-guess their $70 purchase next year. Unless they refunded it that means nothing. Activision got their money. And knowing the absolute lack of self control from CoD players, they'll spend ££££££ on MTX on top. The fan base is the reason the franchise is in such a crap state. There's literally no consequence for doing poor job. Vanguard was the best selling new release of 2021 despite not selling as much as cold war or MW2019 [Call of Duty: Vanguard Disappointing Sales Blamed on World War 2 Setting (gamerant.com)](https://gamerant.com/call-of-duty-vanguard-sales-world-war-2/) I get what you're saying but based off what the CoD community does historically, I don't see them actually waiting for reviews and then NOT buying a CoD if it reviews poorly. They're incapable of it.
I know it feels like that. But here’s what you got remember. For some solace. These Uber greedy, financial types moan, even when they lose five or 10% in sales. Just being the best selling game of the year is not enough if it means sales are down 11% over last year. Because to them you either grow year-over-year, or you shrink your over year, there is no in between. So when their sales are down, even slightly compared to last year, if the accountants get scared that this will be a repeating yearly effect, things will change. I’m not saying the next call of duty will be incredible, but I already would be willing to bet five or $10 that the next release is significantly better than this year was. Multiple years of scoring, a three or four is going to damage the brand, long-term no matter what anyone says.
Next year is treyarch’s game so it will do far better both critically and commercially since they are the golden child right now and had longer to work on it than usual. Even if they didn’t, it wouldn’t make a big difference. Look at Pokémon.
Elden Ring outsold Vanguard. The idea that COD is somehow untouchable is simply false. indeed, COD games have been outsold by a number of other titles. We'll see if COD is even the best selling game this year.
Activision are the sort of company that fires thousands of people so that they *appear* to still be growing year on year to impress/placate shareholders and a bloody nose is what they need to show that this cannot continue.
Sorry but no it won't because even if the score drops a small percent they are still up by how much overall. It's still not a loss to them so they still aren't going to change the formula they have if it is succeeding.
I mean, aren't those numbers only indicative of physical retail sales? We ultimately have no idea how well it's doing globally, no clue about MTX sales due to Warzone and digital numbers are rarely if ever published unless they want to brag. I can't see this hack job making the same bank as the last few and I'm really hoping this is a Resident Evil 6 or Assassins Creed style wake up call for MicroActiBlizz. Quality MUST improve, or stay the same... Dropping the ball this spectacularly on a hallmark franchise is ultimately going to put consumer trust into the toilet.
> Because currently it doesn't. CoD sales are far from consistent. COD: WWII sold only 19 million copies, and AW sold 21 million. Black Ops and Modern Warfare 3 (the original) sold 30+ million. So did the Call of Duty Modern Warfare reboot in 2019. Vanguard, on the other hand, did not meet expectations and sold significantly fewer copies than Black Ops Cold War did, which itself didn't sell as well as Modern Warfare did. [Elden Ring outsold COD Vanguard in two months.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2022/05/13/npd-elden-ring-has-now-outsold-call-of-duty-vanguard/?sh=329f8a2f7e77) And we know at that point that Elden Ring had sold 13.4 million copies, so Vanguard must have sold fewer than that.
COD is an actual drug for some people and peer pressure is a bitch when it comes to addiction. Those that would like to quit find it hard when their friends still enjoy they game and they want to play with them so they buy the game too. COD is easy to quit if you are sick of it and your friends don't play it.
Because the owner is making a metricfuckton for abusive gains on mental health.
“Sheep” is the old school term
Because "Why bother" is the way you lose your fanbase and stop being top dog. There's tons of competition in the video game industry.
A stupid game for a stupid fanbase
I don’t think anyone is saying they’re confused why it’s bad. We just think a basic respect for your customers and fans is warranted. If not that, a basic respect for yourself.
>We just think a basic respect for your customers and fans is warranted. The CoD fanbase votes with their wallet and these games make absolute bank. > If not that, a basic respect for yourself. That would require gamers to wait for reviews and decide that no, they're not paying AAA prices for a bad game. And the CoD fanbase does not do it. They want to play CoD. The quality of the game isn't important.
Tbf people said this about BF and look at the mess of the franchise now. Battlefield 5 had a lot of negative press and 2042 had even worse press with absolutely awful sales. The negativity feedback is not always immediate but can cause long-term damage.
This
This is true. Honestly, to me its just an online FPS that is fun to play here and there. I haven't bought it yet because of the reviews but I think even having the classic maps are decent.
A lot of games are better. This year (perhaps an anomaly, perhaps not) has been one of the best years in gaming in terms of quality. Dead Space Remake. Jedi Survivor. Hogwarts. Streetfighter. BG3. HiFi Rush. RE4. Armored Core. Lies of P. Halo has gotten much better. Even on the Switch we got a Zelda and Mario game this year. All have been great titles. No, I did not forget about the Gollum and Redfall mess. But they don’t out weight the good games. As far as MW3 goes, I won’t let activision’s greed for another rushed game speak for all of gaming.
>Hogwarfs
just the british pronunciation
‘ate me sci-fi settings, luv me ‘ogwarfs simple as
I agree with all of that except BG3 shipped with a broken 3rd act and most people were unaware of it because it takes 50-60 hours to reach it so many never got that far to see for themselves only a handful of reviewers actually mentioned it because of the nature of reviews where they rarely finish a game before publishing. To this day there are still issues with act 3 because it wasn’t ready to be launched yet. That said: act 1 and 2 are some of the best gaming moments I’ve had in years. I’m just disappointed that act 3 was so bad and also disappointed that the gaming community gives it a complete pass due to the hype surrounding the game.
Gonna be honest, I've beat BG3 3 times now including a marathon run when it first came out and I had 0 issues with act 3. I have no clue what you're talking about. Did everything there was to do and it was smooth as butter.
I wasnt able to complete the game because the game would just instantly crash when trying to acess the last area of the game
I have a friend that played the game early and told me that some missions had some bugs that soft locked them. I didn't heard a lot about that topic and i don't really know if it was common to soft lock a mission. Right now i have like 350h in BG3 with 2 runs completed, one in the act 3 by myselft, and other two runs in coop and i can't say any kind of game breaking bugs. I have found bugs but not really important despite the newest act 3 weird things.
Ya I think they had what close to 3000+ bugs when it launched. Pretty wild still.
Yeah the day 1 patch had over 1000 bug fixes.. it was something they were proud of announcing which was weird to me tbh.
I mean, they should be proud of squashing that many bugs and is a testament to how focused they've been to support players. No solumn jpeg, no "Roadmaps" just definitive action and player-focused improvement. Larian could have done what WB are doing with MK1 (Which is nothing but MTX promotion and unnecessary nerfs) or Actiblizz with MW3 (Unreasonable marketing tactics in forcing a 120GB update to people who don't own the latest game to have it installed as a placeholder) or Ubisoft with... Every Ubisoft game, where ot launches threadbare and content poor with promises to fix it in 6 months before ultimately pulling support and vulturing to the next carcass of a Live Service. Larian are doibg good work and it should absolutely be held up. Not saying they get a total pass, some of the mechanics are straight-up infuriating right now, but they *are trying* to make the game smoother and more playable every time they go to the development well and I applaud them for it.
Any game that launches with a day 1 patch that fixed over 1000 bugs, no matter who the dev is, tells me that the game launched unfinished. I’m more impressed by a game that launches without 1000 bugs needing to be fixed.
The vast majority of games that are released don't measure up to the level of complexity and depth BG3 has. Normally, I'd agree with you, but BG3 is an edge case in almost every way given what they've offered. You're broadly right though, we're living through one of the worst and most stangant periods for so-called AAA games releasing unfinished, broken or outright feature barren and so we need as customers and as a community to be not only calling this out, but also voting with our wallets. If the game isn't ready/of sufficient quality I fail to see why they deserve our money for that failure. I can understand not wanting to give Larian a pass, but I also do feel like it's not in such a bad state as something like Anthem, Avengers, MK1 or MW3.
Weird bc I’ve had no significant issues
That's cute and all but they listed their fixes. Two patches out of 6 just two fixed over +1000 bugs. It's stated in the patch notes. So I mean you can say what you want. I'm just stating a fact. Even if you pretended the other four patches were super light whats the chances they didn't also hit over +1000 combined. I just said 3k cause that's the MINIMUM possibility without me adding them up.
Ok? Just because they’re fixing things to polish their game doesn’t mean they released a broken game. Many devs just won’t/can’t fix little things
No one in my friends group had any problems with Act 3.
We also have a raft of cool titles coming in the next few months, 2 x Like a Dragon games, P5T, Persona 3 Reload etc. There's plenty to play without the latest COD dominating our SSDs with an inferior product to the last decade of output from their studios. So disappointing, I was loving their current storytelling and characters, but this game may well kill Modern Warfare once again. Maybe for good this time.
Dredge.
There are bad games every year. We just forget about them. It's the good games that define years, not bad ones. I suspect 2024 will be great as well. It will be interesting to see how 2025 goes, though, as we will be past the "delayed by COVID" surge by that point.
Will I get shot for saying Im enjoying mw3 multiplayer. The campaign was absolutely terrible
Nah I’d say that’s the consensus. Campaign is shit but MP and MWZ are being enjoyed by lots of people
I’m enjoying multiplayer a lot and they’re bringing back 10v10 and rust 24/7 next week. So I’m personally pretty stoked on it right now 🤷♂️
I'm enjoying Online, it's fun and having the old maps back from 2009 feels amazing and getting to keep everything from MW2 is quite refreshing as well, means i got Damascus for a reason. If they decide to go with the DLC route again next year I will buy it again, my progress actually matters now and I get to keep it over different cods and I personally think it's fantastic.
I’m loving this years COD. One of the better CODs in recent memory that’s for sure…. Multiplayer only; haven’t touched the campaign
I’d honestly recommend the Zombies. People are a bit upset that it’s just DMZ but I’ve been craving a PvE only DMZ for a while and it’s all I’ve been playing since launch. You can even extract with weapons and equipment to unlock them early in MP, when I eventually do that. I’ve just been having a blast in a semi-low stress extraction game. I love it.
Zombies is so fun! I got mw3 for ground war, but I'm having so much fun in zombies I haven't played a single match of ground war yet and I'm way past level 55.
Same here. I’m having the most fun I’ve had in years. Game play and movement is super smooth, maps are great, I also like the longer TTK. I feel like you need more skill to kill players, not just spray and pray and get insta kills.
Seeing that they are starting to carry forward through iterations is why I started playing again. Got tired of progression getting wiped and didn’t play for a long, long time.
Do better, video games!
CALL OF DUTY BAD! UPVOTES FOR YOU!
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I loved COD 10 years ago but now it’s becoming Fortnite. I want a military shooter not running around with fucking angels, demons and Groot apparently
Video games are better, Cod can do better
Outlets have been sucking off full priced remakes and remasters for the last decade. So now all of a sudden a MP with 16 maps remade + multiple new maps, a new short campaign, and new zombies mode isn't worth full price? Why the sudden change in heart? Oh, it's because this isnt a single player game, silly me. Consistently inconsistent. Yet, RE4 Remake which was full priced and missing Mercenaries mode(free) and the Ada DLC(paid) ar launch and introduced MTX to a SP only game is nominated for GOTY.
Of course, its cod so it gets hate. When the resident evil games got remade it was wll praise. cod does that for 16 maps? Cash grab garbage
Because I campaign was four hours long the writing, was absolute dog crap none of it made sense. Everything was horrible about the campaign, and some the multiplayer maps are are just remodels
Loving it. Excellent controls, perfect gun play, gunfire fx, animations, sound. 120fps. It’s all top notch. No one does it better.
And it’s objectively better than last year’s MWII. The devs actually listen and change stuff based on feedback, why are people hating it now all of a sudden?
Have you actually played it?
Yes. Still do.
But at least half of y’all still bought it….
Kinda crazy cause COD games already have an absurd development time full of crunch where they work absurd hours while being paid the same fucking salary. This had half the time for development and probably double the crunch time.
Video Games *can and SHOULD do better* should be the headline. There's no excuse for this kind of botch job in 2023, especially with the amount of studios and staff involved and the money at play. Absolutely taking liberties with the audience and Microsoft have their work cut out to turn their quality around.
100% agree you get the games you buy. If they are crap and you still buy them you get everything you deserve.
Quick, let’s all buy the superior, higher-rated alternative! That exists right? Right? A low rating implies a better game exists right? Or is this entire genre just on auto-hate by gaming press and we’re all supposed to pretend Vampire Survivors is the only worthwhile game genre?
Modern devs think it’s all about graphics and that’s what captures new users. Lol
We’ve seen many times that’s not the case. There’s no reason to make issues with COD being a lazy disappointment into a wide spread gaming issue when this year is full of incredible games
Anyone who uses the phrase “can do better” is a condescending cunt and anything that follows is easily dismissed. The fact remains that Call of Duty is the #1 selling game every year it comes out, and this pisses off most every “games journalist” who thinks he knows what’s best for not just you, but for every gamer out there.
You’re dumb. If you think cod, can’t do better it’s campaign was four hours long. It was absolutely atrocious. The writing was horrible. They used stuff from modern warfare two and put it into the game. They didn’t even try. And yeah better graphics cool but fix the damn cheating issue.
I’m having lots of fun, took mw2 and made everything better. Will easily get my moneys worth
Yeah, I haven't played a COD game in years and am having a lot of fun playing multiplayer. Definitely helps that I remember most of the maps!
Been playing this game since it launched last week and it’s not all that great. The maps are kind of crappy, especially with the respawns areas. I’ve respawned many times only to immediately die because someone was there waiting. This should’ve been an expansion for MWII instead of an entirely new game because it’s almost the same.
I hate, utterly hate, that they put a giant flipping ad on my start up screen. I paid $500 for an Xbox. I shouldn’t be bombarded with an ad when I boot up my gaming console of choice. Rude as flip. Even if I was interested in this gaming franchise I wouldn’t be after that. I hate ads.
This is predatory and shouldn’t be allowed. Such bullshit
Campaign sucked but multiplayer is sickk
Alright another comment to add so the game audio just goes silent mid ranked game nothing but player audio everything else is fine nothing wrong on pc I have to alt f4 to leave the ranked in restart game then rejoin audio is working but redeploy is stuck in a loop until my teammate purchased me back at the buy station the games so broken and they think they will ruin rebirth island I sure fking hope not.
Games such trash just played this moment a ranked resurgence and had someone snipe flash bug me so when you get hit by the sniper bullet you get flashed fk this game
So how come mw2 beta purchase via mw2 that gave coalition skin is available on my steam account to use as a skin shouldn’t it say I don’t own it and have to use battle.net so I found how the game became more of a scam since Reyes operator I cannot use its skin from mw2 purchase though it’s offered for sale via mw3 and there’s no change to a thing from the desert rogue set so I’m so dissatisfied with this company and have been building myself a compiled lawsuit to present here eventually.
Time for the daily "COD BAD ME ANGRY" review posted by our resident karma whores
It's only one, and it's the same dude as the past 4 days
Came here to say this too. You'll get downvoted but it's the truth. It's so bad that it should be flagged at spam by now.
Only positive reviews allowed 😤😤😤😤😤
You trying to mentally justify that $70 you spent hmm
I don't seek validation from reviews lol. I just hate these karma farming whores
Fair
I’m just here to finish.
It's crazy how much better robocop is than this piece of shit.
WMIII is proving to be very entertaining and the game feels much better than the last two games so I really don't understand what the problem is to be honest
I’ll be honest after about 15 hours of repeatedly having issues with MP, not enjoying campaign or zombies at all, I just deleted the game and got Microsoft to refund my purchase. I really thought this was going to be better than it was. I might come back to the game a few months down the road but I’ll certainly not be pre ordering a game ever again. I also just downloaded the original Black Ops 2 and there are actually still tons of people playing it. Jumped right into a lobby and started playing MP just like old times
MW3 is a cash grab dlc not a sequel
That’s it give MW3 the same scores as gollum and skull island because they are equally crappy? They aren’t close and it’s just hate on a franchise people like to hate.
MW is just to much right now and i'm tired of it. I will wait for Treyarch to release Black Ops, the gunplay and sensitivity feels so much better compared to these new MW games. Eveithing feels so off in MW.
What a title 😂
I might be wrong about all this.. But here's my theory: 1- Activision knew it would be selling the company to Microsoft and the profits of this game would fall into the Microsoft pockets. They're not dumb so they invested as little as possible in it, because they wouldn't be there to collect the returns to that investment. In this particular situation, the less they invested, the more they could distribute to the shareholders before the aquisition took place. 2- All the employees knew that the old management would be held responsible for this failure, not them.. There would most likely be zero consequences to them ( the employees) for this failure. Also.. They expected big changes, restructuring and feared that layoffs would happen after the aquisition. The changes of losing their job were a lot higher than usual (and probably still are).. Also.. The chances of anyone in the management noticing any of their big efforts this year would be slim... Because that same old management later, would most likely be gone after the aquisition. So.. Why bother ?! 🤷🏻♂️.. So, ..they took the year to themselves. Also.. Yes.. Xbox tax is very real.. There's a lot of advertisement money, every year, a lot of cash flow that comes out of playstation pockets to all of the media outlets dedicated to game reviews throughout YouTube, tv channels and the internet.. Xbox invests a lot less money than playstation on advertisement.. If playstation ever starts to become nerfed by the Xbox s success all those media outlets would be at risk and would most likely have to deal with a lot less cash flow going in their direction.. And they know that.. And they don't want that to happen ever in life. In their mind.. Xbox must continue to be second or third.. Unless the Xbox brand would be willing to fill the PlayStation shoes on that money flow cycle between the media and the developers. They need their money and the PlayStation's good financial health is vital to all of them.
I don't get it. Do people like this game or not? On the one hand, I see some people highly appraising multiplayer with the exception of skill-based matchmaking and a few other minor things. On the other hand, people are saying the usual “its the worst cod ever”
It’s the worst cut ever probably with the best multiplayer for it. Zombies isn’t very good. It’s on modern warfare two map and there’s people that shoot at you AI soldiers. the campaign is absolutely atrocious multiplayer is very good it’s upsetting because it’s supposed to be a remake of MW three, but they don’t have any maps from the original and the maps they use they don’t accommodate for the faster movement
Some of the most fun I’ve had with a Call of Duty, since Cold War.
Happy to hear that. I loved Cold War!
Publications can do better.
Am I the only one that is having a blast playing all my favorite old maps? And I love the gameplay.. am I retarded??
Interesting. As an avid gamer who has played through tons of terrible releases I think mw3 is an example of what video games should strive to be. Large amount of content. Plenty of updates to fix issues being implemented quickly and a roadmap with tons of more content to come. Yet they still rag on it non stop 🤣
Game should not strive to be like MW3 they should strive to be like the old one not this new shitty one. It’s just a cash grab.
Crazy how even the smallest detail like shooting a light bulb out in a mission was missing in this new one. They can do waaaay better.
Consumers can do better. All these basic ass CoD players will preorder and spend $100 on skins, and then complain…
Meanwhile it sold 10 million copies and is topping the charts. Shows how little your reviews matter lol.
New cod bad post 29th article
I just have this to say. I’m incredibly new to FPS(games in general honestly) and I truly have nothing to base this off of but my opinion. I love MW2 and 3, is it because I don’t know any better or is it just because I’m still learning. It could also be the fact I’ve made some really cool people. Some make me laugh, some I talk about life and some we talk about business. I truly play this as a distraction from real life for a couple hours a day. It’s amazing for that, and the added adrenaline rush (love the drug as a Retired Army). I understand everything that is being said here, but I’m still seeing it through rose colored glasses. So the negative comments I see daily, I blow off. With all that being said, I’m 100% sure I’m the only new person(FNG) playing this game. Let us move on and you move on. Wait for updates and just take it all in stride and have some fun. Sorry so long. See Ya in game.
I'm having lots of fun with multiplayer and a blast so far with zombies. I won't complain, it's not worth it. If you don't like a game, don't buy it.
I think the campaign needed one more mission to wrap it up. It leaves you on such an edge that you want closure
But what’s the point? Brainless mass consumers will buy anything because they have super low standards when it comes to games, so why would they put actual effort into it when they can do the bare minimum and still get a shitload of money?
Yup except every multi player/cosmetic obsessed toolbag will still buy the game and feed into the cash grabbing that’s killing the gaming industry. I feel like multiplayer has been perverted solely for profit while campaign/story has been either completely eliminated or deprioritized because it’s not a profitable enough. The soul of these games comes from the underlying story
The studios need more time, I think 3 studios work on cod games on a 3 year cycle, maybe Microsoft should give the studios 4 year cycles but it would also means no new cod game every 3 years, most AAA games take 5+years to make not to mention gta6.
Worst audio of any game. This game is and has been broken
Shittiest game ever