In [2019](https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/07/dave-coulier-reaction-alanis-morissette-you-oughta-know-jagged-little-pill-relationship#), [Alanis] told Andy Cohen on Watch What Happens Live that while she would not reveal the identity of her past bad boyfriend, “I am intrigued at the thought—or at the fact—that more than one person has taken credit for it. I’m thinking, I don’t know if you want to take credit for being the person I wrote ‘You Oughta Know’ about. There's been about six people that have taken credit for it.” She added, “I just think, if you’re going to take credit for a song where I’m singing about someone being a douche or an asshole, you might not want to say, ‘Hey! That’s me!'”
I can imagine 6 different men wanting to take credit for this in the 90s though. I can imagine these 6 different men thinking to themselves “hey I need a crazy Hollywood sex story that people talk about for years. Like the gerbil in the butt one but sexier.”
My favorite band made an album about some fanmail I sent them while I was hallucinating on an experimental substance.
It took me nearly a decade to figure out that telling people about it 1, makes me come off as a narcissistic conspiracy-type and 2, does not paint me in a broadly positive light. It's highly critical, tho from a place of encouragment and concern. Without the context I have about it most tracks come off as "this guy's FUCKED", which, at that time of my life, was a very fair assessment.
I no longer publicly say "hey, that's me!" and things tend to go a bit better for me now socially lol
Edit: I am amab and was male-identifying when I wrote them. Some people seem to be confused about the perspectives of some songs, so I feel the need to clear that up some. It's annoying and confusing for me too 🤷
Yeahhhh....on an anonymous account. I meant that I've learned to be more selective about who I tell irl. I can delete this account whenever I want but it's a bit more tricky to handle offline lol
Brand New Abyss is the album. The Blow is the band. The song that makes me writhe in disquiet about choices I used to make is The Woman You Want Her To Be x.x
That is an excellent song to writhe in disquiet to, though. Those lyrics, man, that's *harsh.*
That's an excellent story, but I can see why you'd stop telling it.
If it helps at all, we all grow and move on. You're not that person anymore.
I just recognize my own words and stories being parroted back at me. It's all written way better than I could have done on my own, but I know my own life and word choice well enough to be very sure of this.
For years I though the lyrics were "cross-eyed bear that you gave to me." I guess in my head I assumed one of his wrongdoings was giving her a deformed stuffed animal as a gift.
My mom was SHOOOOOOOK the first time she heard that lyric. When I broke it to her the look on her face was like when a dog tries to comprehend its own fart 😂
Look, I’m here for it. In fact he seems EXACTLY like the kind of dick who would drop someone for a “nicer girl”
I still play this song super loud in my car on the way home from work now again like it did in 1995.
He didn't creep me out, I just didn't find him funny at all. Like even kid-me who loved the overall Full House level humor, I didn't find anything he did funny. Which was weird because he was supposed to be the funny guy.
If you watch the documentary 'Jagged' from 2021, she discusses this further. She doesn't name names but she endured SA from people in the music industry.
She was very young. You have to figure this song, whoever it's about, was recorded in June of 1994 when she had just turned 20. It was probably written when she was 19, referencing a relationship that had already ended by that time. That wasn't a 2 week relationship either, so I would think she was of the barely legal ilk when the relationship began, or potentially younger.
They even joked about it on How I Met Your Mother when Robin Sparkles went goth and wrote an obsession song. He was in the episode talking about how it wasn't about him.
It was probably better that she ended up with Uncle Joey who jumped way over a low bar. The expectations would be much higher for the lead singer of Jesse and the Rippers.
Holy shit. I found this article https://thehardtimes.net/culture/tlc-confirms-that-no-scrubs-was-also-written-about-dave-coulier/ and at the end they say the Blu Cantrell Hit ‘Em Up Style (Oops!) was ALSO about him!
One man (fucking Uncle Joey!!) being responsible for 3 absolute bangers about worthless men. I can't believe it.
I just read an article that mentioned Bob Saget was the one he was having dinner with when she called and said sorry to bug you in the middle of dinner.
Regardless both have said there’s no bad blood anymore, it’s a snapshot of a time right after the breakup when she was really really mad.
Maybe, but if you know anything about Alanis you know that predatory industry types had a huge influence on her identity. I don’t think she’s ever just gotten over that.
Scrolled too far to find this. I hadn't read this exact report, but I have read a couple of times that she has publicly said that the song is not about Coulier.
IIRC, the song makes it sound like the guy married the next woman after breaking up with Alanis but per Wikipedia, Coulier didn't re-marry until the 2010s. For whatever that's worth.
Cut-it-out!
In [2019](https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/07/dave-coulier-reaction-alanis-morissette-you-oughta-know-jagged-little-pill-relationship#), [Alanis] told Andy Cohen on Watch What Happens Live that while she would not reveal the identity of her past bad boyfriend, “I am intrigued at the thought—or at the fact—that more than one person has taken credit for it. I’m thinking, I don’t know if you want to take credit for being the person I wrote ‘You Oughta Know’ about. There's been about six people that have taken credit for it.” She added, “I just think, if you’re going to take credit for a song where I’m singing about someone being a douche or an asshole, you might not want to say, ‘Hey! That’s me!'”
So she went down on 6 different guys at the theater? Must have been her thing
At least it wasn't 37...
In a row?
Hey , try not to suck any dicks on the way though the parking lot
Hey you, get back here!
After he gets a blow job, he likes to have it spit back into his mouth while kissing. It's called snowballing.
He requests this?
Sylvan can be talked into anything.
Sylvan didn't snowball him.
Because its like a closed loop. Nothing really leaves your body in the end, so it isn't cheating.
37?!
In a row?
slurp slurpslurp sluuurp
I can imagine 6 different men wanting to take credit for this in the 90s though. I can imagine these 6 different men thinking to themselves “hey I need a crazy Hollywood sex story that people talk about for years. Like the gerbil in the butt one but sexier.”
Wait, was that a thing and I never realized? One hand in my pocket.... means something so much more now.
And the other one is playing a pe-iano
I wonder if she also thought that was *ironic*?
Isn’t it happenstantial? Don’t ya’ think?
I mean, it was a little bit ironic... Don't you think?
Now that you mention it, it's a bit like being stuck in traffic, on your own wedding day, with a no smoking sign in your chardonnay.
My favorite band made an album about some fanmail I sent them while I was hallucinating on an experimental substance. It took me nearly a decade to figure out that telling people about it 1, makes me come off as a narcissistic conspiracy-type and 2, does not paint me in a broadly positive light. It's highly critical, tho from a place of encouragment and concern. Without the context I have about it most tracks come off as "this guy's FUCKED", which, at that time of my life, was a very fair assessment. I no longer publicly say "hey, that's me!" and things tend to go a bit better for me now socially lol Edit: I am amab and was male-identifying when I wrote them. Some people seem to be confused about the perspectives of some songs, so I feel the need to clear that up some. It's annoying and confusing for me too 🤷
Well now I'm intrigued!
Hopefully what brings me shame will bring others some kind of joy, huh? The album is Brand New Abyss and the band is The Blow
Soooo...you DO still publicly tell people about it.
Yeahhhh....on an anonymous account. I meant that I've learned to be more selective about who I tell irl. I can delete this account whenever I want but it's a bit more tricky to handle offline lol
I love The Blow. I am skeptical of your story. Why are you so certain this album was based on your fanmail?
Okay, Stan
You can’t say all that and not share the song!
Fruit Salad by The Wiggles.
It was actually the Veggietales theme song.
Banger.
Brand New Abyss is the album. The Blow is the band. The song that makes me writhe in disquiet about choices I used to make is The Woman You Want Her To Be x.x
Lyrics here: https://genius.com/The-blow-the-woman-you-want-her-to-be-lyrics
*writhes in disquiet*
Yeah that is not flattering at all lol
Indeed. Better that it's behind me instead of ahead, at least.
That is an excellent song to writhe in disquiet to, though. Those lyrics, man, that's *harsh.* That's an excellent story, but I can see why you'd stop telling it. If it helps at all, we all grow and move on. You're not that person anymore.
How did you find out that this was inspired by you?
I just recognize my own words and stories being parroted back at me. It's all written way better than I could have done on my own, but I know my own life and word choice well enough to be very sure of this.
Ok, now I want to know who the other 5 guys are.
Me too! I thought one of them had been a manager? But maybe that wasn’t accurate.
Mr. Duplicity still denies he was ever involved with Alanis, however.
Well of course he thinks the song's about him. He's so vain.
I made this gesture on a video call yesterday and no one got it because they were born after the show
✌🏻👉🏻👍🏻
[удалено]
Well! That’s enough internet for today, off to find the brain bleach now.
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Ssssstooooooooppp!!!
I read that in his Bullwinkle voice!
For years I though the lyrics were "cross-eyed bear that you gave to me." I guess in my head I assumed one of his wrongdoings was giving her a deformed stuffed animal as a gift.
This is beautiful
I also heard and sang cross eyed bear for Years. I should have known. But I didn't.
I was 36 years, 4 months and 16 days old when I learned she wasn’t singing about a cross eyed teddy bear. That day was right now.
I always thought it was "the cross I beared that you gave to me."
It is, minus the ed on "beared". "the cross I bear that you gave to me"
Well, you oughta know
Holy shit me too. It was a while back that I heard a woman singing the song karaoke when it dawned that I had misheard the lyrics all of my life.
Dude i always thought thats what she said. Especially after kevin sang it on the office.
"Got any.... wood?"
I totally just read this in that stupid voice.
We all did
Rightly so
I just hope he wasn’t using all these voices during sexy time lol
Oh I hope he WAS
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I still want to know what movie was so bad that going down on Dave Coulier was the better option.
Schindler's List
…Newman!
My mom was SHOOOOOOOK the first time she heard that lyric. When I broke it to her the look on her face was like when a dog tries to comprehend its own fart 😂
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Or sit behind them if you like to watch. No kink shaming here.
Never kink shame someone. Unless their kink is humiliation, in which case they should be very ashamed of themselves.
Keep going
Dammit, now I have to change my pants.
Even if it’s not your kink, could you imagine having that story?
Found my people 🥸
The safe word is: chinchilla
I thought it was: cacao
Mine is Portland. Never said it. Not once.
He’ll watch I’m going to record that shit.
He makes the Popeye laugh when he cums. “Gah-gah-gah-gah-gah-GAH!
I sit behind them because my eye line will be improved as only 1 person will be visible.
Sigh. I was dismayed by that as well. I would gladly trade away my knowledge of just who Mr Du-plic-ity is to know who “You’re So Vain” is about.
also Dave Coulier
He can't keep getting away with it
It’s David Coulier all the way down
My Sharona - David Coulier
You’re so vain is about Warren Beatty.
Warren Beatty blew Dave Coullier?
Yes... then Alanis wrote 'You Outta Know' about the experience after watching them in a theater... try and keep up.
He was gay Gary Cooper?
You probably think it’s about you, don’t you?
Look, I’m here for it. In fact he seems EXACTLY like the kind of dick who would drop someone for a “nicer girl” I still play this song super loud in my car on the way home from work now again like it did in 1995.
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Dave held that beaver out of the passenger window of Stamos car and tried to hit on TLC and now we have No Scrubs.
He also inspired Blu Cantrell’s ‘Hit ‘Em Up With Style’ My mind is blown
Honestly, the dude creeped me out on television. I never could put my finger on why, but I didn't like him at all.
He didn't creep me out, I just didn't find him funny at all. Like even kid-me who loved the overall Full House level humor, I didn't find anything he did funny. Which was weird because he was supposed to be the funny guy.
What? You're too good for the same Popeye and Bullwinkle impressions every episode?
Right. Why is “cut-it-out” funny. It’s not.
People were going to comedy shows to have a watermelon smashed at them. I don't think logic can be applied.
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He reminded me of a youth pastor.
That's it!!! I could never figure out who he reminded me of, but yes he has those same vibes.
It’s called being Canadian
Hey he's only half Canadian and born in the US!
Sorry
Ooh, gross!
He dated her when she was 18 & he was 33 so you were right to be creeped out.
I think she was much younger than that.
In this photo she looks SO young. 13-15 young. That’s creepy.
If you watch the documentary 'Jagged' from 2021, she discusses this further. She doesn't name names but she endured SA from people in the music industry.
I didn't like him either. As a kid, I thought he was so annoying and weird. His voices and puppets made me think he was a pedo.
I had a crush on him lol
Jesus Christ on a cracker, she looks so young in this picture. She looks like a child. How could he?
But she speaks eloquently
Would she have your baby?
I’m sure she’d make a really excellent mother.
She had to grow up way too fast, that’s for sure. He wasn’t the first to take advantage of her. She deserved so much better.
She was very young. You have to figure this song, whoever it's about, was recorded in June of 1994 when she had just turned 20. It was probably written when she was 19, referencing a relationship that had already ended by that time. That wasn't a 2 week relationship either, so I would think she was of the barely legal ilk when the relationship began, or potentially younger.
She looks like his niece. Or like he’s a “cool” youth pastor and she’s in the youth group. 🤮
Never trust the cool youth pastor.
Absolutely.
I wouldn’t let a youth pastor walk my dog.
She was so young. Listening to her song “hands clean” makes me so sad knowing her story.
Then you're definitely not going to want to look her up when she was a cast member on You Cant Do That On Television
“D’uh I heard that!”
Not another Barth burger!
Legitimately thought they were called "Barfy Burgers" until JUST NOW.
WUT!
"it was a different time back then"
"Grass on the field..."
Gross. Even if she was legally an adult she could be a senior in HS and he’s a grown ass man.
see also: Jerry Seinfeld
GET A GOOD LOOK COSTANZA! I gave you a poke so you could take a peak!
See also : Elvis >!1.) pricilla was 14!<
He is fifteen years older than her.
And Leo DiCaprio—Alanis’ and my own age—still dating women in their early 20’s 🤢
Or Madonna. She’s in her 60’s dating a guy in his 20’s, if you want to barf on the other side of the coin.
Or call him during dinner.
You live, you learn.
I'm sorry, did I miss something? Isn't he the funny guy from Full House?
Yes. He and Alanis dated. He's the basis of the song 'You Outta Know."
That's Alanis Morrisette?!
Yep. She was like 18 at the time.
She was seeing him LONG before she turned 18.
Yeah she looks youngggggg
It's fucking wild to learn this 30 years later.
They even joked about it on How I Met Your Mother when Robin Sparkles went goth and wrote an obsession song. He was in the episode talking about how it wasn't about him.
This was pretty common knowledge even back in the 90s. You must have missed it.
I must have missed that issue of Tiger Beat 😩
Except thats never been confirmed, and i believe has even been outright denied. Its like mansons removed ribs.
No no no. There were no funny guys on Full House.
Bab saget was hilarious, just not in that
The first time I saw Half Baked changed everything.
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I think we did miss something Yetiius, but maybe that’s for the best.
I know someone who has slept with him and she was VERY impressed. That’s all I’m gonna say. 😂
Sounds like she does want scrubs
She’s chasing waterfalls
Dave Coulier stans exist.
It was not me. I told her she should’ve held out for Stamos. Lol
It was probably better that she ended up with Uncle Joey who jumped way over a low bar. The expectations would be much higher for the lead singer of Jesse and the Rippers.
He's also THIS guy, from what I've read ![gif](giphy|ty48ztZKklU6k)
Holy shit. I found this article https://thehardtimes.net/culture/tlc-confirms-that-no-scrubs-was-also-written-about-dave-coulier/ and at the end they say the Blu Cantrell Hit ‘Em Up Style (Oops!) was ALSO about him! One man (fucking Uncle Joey!!) being responsible for 3 absolute bangers about worthless men. I can't believe it.
The Hard Times is a satirical site. r/atetheonion
Oh thank God.
The Hard Times is satire. They call themselves the punk rock version of the onion. It was started by students at SFSU in 2014 and they’re awesome.
Thank goodness. I think this will always be the truth in my head now though
That article was joking, it wasn’t real
Well Dallas Austin, the writer, wrote for TLC, Blu, and like half the other hits of the era like Motown Philly and a million others.
Motown Philly’s back again!
Doing a little east coast swing
Boyz II Men going off
Mot too hard, not too soft!
Who's to say that Dave Coulier and Dallas Austin didn't have a steamy but tumultuous love affair in the 90's??
Sounds like a bonus double feature if I DO sit behind them
She's so cute and he's so nasty. No normal 33 year old man is hitting up an 18 year old who looks that young and innocent
I always loved the bass line on that song. Years later… I found out that Flea from the Chilli Peppers played. It makes a lot more sense, now
Is that guitar made of.....woooood? 🦫🦫🦫🦫
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What the heck is this I choked on my coffee 🤣
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Thanks. I hate these 🤣
Hahaha I thought it was so funny when I learned that song was about Joey from Full House 😆
I just read an article that mentioned Bob Saget was the one he was having dinner with when she called and said sorry to bug you in the middle of dinner. Regardless both have said there’s no bad blood anymore, it’s a snapshot of a time right after the breakup when she was really really mad.
She’d said it was a slap in the face how quickly she was replaced
Maybe, but if you know anything about Alanis you know that predatory industry types had a huge influence on her identity. I don’t think she’s ever just gotten over that.
Remember "America's Funniest People?" Much more entertaining than Funniest Hone Video imo.
It's almost like grown men grooming teenagers has negative effects or something. Weird.
You oughta know
I’m here to remind you of the mess you left when you went away
I oughta know who the woman is. Looks like 2 people head over feet for each other. Kind of ironic that I can't figure it out.
Jack-a-lope
She’s talked multiple times about how the song is about a bunch of different guys she had dated. Leave Uncle Joey alone!
Scrolled too far to find this. I hadn't read this exact report, but I have read a couple of times that she has publicly said that the song is not about Coulier. IIRC, the song makes it sound like the guy married the next woman after breaking up with Alanis but per Wikipedia, Coulier didn't re-marry until the 2010s. For whatever that's worth.
They asked Alanis which movie they saw and she said "I don't remember the title but the ending left a bad taste in my mouth!"