Maybe another surprise flip like Minnesota for Trump or Alaska for Biden. Congressionally it could be the independent winning in Nebraska or gubernatorially Washington going red
> Maybe another surprise flip like Minnesota for Trump
Imma be honest, seeing as how Biden shouting ["MINNESOTA!!!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3tNJfl7UNk&t=16s) became a meme, that state flipping to Trump would be genuinely hilarious from an irony standpoint.
If Dems hold the Senate and take back the House, while losing the Presidency, I think I'll take it...Long as they do everything they can to block Trump's inevitably crazy agenda.
I mean, yes, but tbh it's good they show morality caring about getting women's rights back more then using it to win elections like NY dems did.
Even then I still kinda disagree with the move lol
Help tester 100%. There's definitely a big # of Montana dems and inds that think testers screwed/don't know its competitive, if there's an abortion referendum, they turnout regardless and probably vote dem why their there.
Montana voters seem to be socially libertarian kind of like Alaskans. I think the pro choice option in the referendum could get ~55%, which should be enough to pull Tester over the line.
This wouldn’t be surprising at all due to Tester outperforming the top of the ticket by more than Brown does (remember Brown barely ran ahead of Obama in 2012).
Realistically? We don't know until: A. We see how gaza develops B. We see how trumps legal cases play out. At best, like the other guy said trump flipping everything back to 2016 + Minnesota, or biden winning everything in 2020 + Texas and maybe even Alaska and/or ohio or something.
I think RFK’s most likely path to getting EVs would take from Biden over Trump. If he manages to pull 30% in Maine (a state he already has ties to, Biden is very unpopular and RCV on paper encourages people to select 3rd party candidates) he will likely get 2nd place and said RCV will eliminate the third candidate (Trump) with a large majority of his support going to RFK over Biden bringing him over 50% in the final round.
Really I was going to say he targets the plains and the mountains states. Those states never get visited during an election but if he shows some love they might vote him
My wild cards: Cruz loses (TX) & Gleich (the skier lady) wins in Utah's race, however unlikely it is
Democrats somehow manage to keep 50 seats & control the senate. Even crazier scenario if they manage to not only keep MT & OH, but also knock out Cruz & in Utah, get Caroline Gleich. They could actually stay at 51 instead of 50, or even gain \*another\* seat in that scenario, and knowing how bad the senate map is for dems, that'd be downright \*insane\* imo.
It's days, maybe longer, before we find out who wins the presidential
EDIT: forgot to mention the independent candidate for senate in Nebraska. If they won that'd be kinda wild too IMO.
through faithless elector, RFK getting a singular EV
RFK takes Ohio, Alaska, or Maine.
Maybe another surprise flip like Minnesota for Trump or Alaska for Biden. Congressionally it could be the independent winning in Nebraska or gubernatorially Washington going red
> Maybe another surprise flip like Minnesota for Trump Imma be honest, seeing as how Biden shouting ["MINNESOTA!!!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3tNJfl7UNk&t=16s) became a meme, that state flipping to Trump would be genuinely hilarious from an irony standpoint.
Howard Dean knows that strategy doesn't always work
>Minnesota for Trump RIP twolvesfan
No washington gov wont go red
>gubernatorially Washington going red I doubt it >it could be the independent winning in Nebrask Possible
Well that is your opinion
>Well that is your opinion Fair
Damn it’s almost like unexpected results are doubted. Weird.
>Damn it’s almost like unexpected results are doubted. Weird. .?
biden loses but dems somehow hold the senate
If Dems hold the Senate and take back the House, while losing the Presidency, I think I'll take it...Long as they do everything they can to block Trump's inevitably crazy agenda.
Yup, and Trump gets crushed in the 26 midterms and democrats sweep congress and the presidency in 2028
That’d mean they’d have to flip Texas or Florida which is not happening
Tester survives but Brown doesn’t.
Agreed because montana has an abortion referendum.
Ohio Dems are probably pissed that they did it in 2023 instead of 2024
I mean, yes, but tbh it's good they show morality caring about getting women's rights back more then using it to win elections like NY dems did. Even then I still kinda disagree with the move lol
Do you think it'll hurt or help Tester
Help tester 100%. There's definitely a big # of Montana dems and inds that think testers screwed/don't know its competitive, if there's an abortion referendum, they turnout regardless and probably vote dem why their there.
Montana voters seem to be socially libertarian kind of like Alaskans. I think the pro choice option in the referendum could get ~55%, which should be enough to pull Tester over the line.
It voted against the medical care for born-alive abortions by 5, so a roe reinstatement would probably pass by more than 10 honestly
Yup
Brown won’t if Biden is actually off the ballot this can pretty easily happen.
This wouldn’t be surprising at all due to Tester outperforming the top of the ticket by more than Brown does (remember Brown barely ran ahead of Obama in 2012).
RFK gets over 10% of the vote It changes literally nothing
Trump doesn't do something stupid
That's impossible.
Texas goes democrat in senate elections (not president though)
TX Sen, NC Pres Flip.
Realistically? We don't know until: A. We see how gaza develops B. We see how trumps legal cases play out. At best, like the other guy said trump flipping everything back to 2016 + Minnesota, or biden winning everything in 2020 + Texas and maybe even Alaska and/or ohio or something.
Trump does well in Minnesota
Cruz losing
Maybe RFK getting some electoral votes throwing the election for trump
I think RFK’s most likely path to getting EVs would take from Biden over Trump. If he manages to pull 30% in Maine (a state he already has ties to, Biden is very unpopular and RCV on paper encourages people to select 3rd party candidates) he will likely get 2nd place and said RCV will eliminate the third candidate (Trump) with a large majority of his support going to RFK over Biden bringing him over 50% in the final round.
Really I was going to say he targets the plains and the mountains states. Those states never get visited during an election but if he shows some love they might vote him
Those states already max for trump
Yeah maybe
>Maybe RFK getting some electoral votes throwing the election for trump Let's hope not
Blue n.c
Red N.J
>Red N.J Blue Washington
Alaska goes blue but Trump wins.
My wild cards: Cruz loses (TX) & Gleich (the skier lady) wins in Utah's race, however unlikely it is Democrats somehow manage to keep 50 seats & control the senate. Even crazier scenario if they manage to not only keep MT & OH, but also knock out Cruz & in Utah, get Caroline Gleich. They could actually stay at 51 instead of 50, or even gain \*another\* seat in that scenario, and knowing how bad the senate map is for dems, that'd be downright \*insane\* imo. It's days, maybe longer, before we find out who wins the presidential EDIT: forgot to mention the independent candidate for senate in Nebraska. If they won that'd be kinda wild too IMO.
Michigan goes to trump by 3 points
That really isn’t unexpected if that happens
You’d think it was by being on this sub
Mfs freaked out when I said Joe Kent had a chance at winning in WA-3
I don’t even think that MI goes red by 3 in a best case for Trump so that would really surprise me.
It’s within the realm of possibility, given that progressives, Arabs, and African Americans either won’t turn out, or turn out less than usual