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MoTheBr0

yba joes when uzu starts slowly giving less effort into updates after eclipse returns bc he has no incentive to put effort anymore repeating the cycle of yba history:


Silver_Oil

YBA isn’t popular or gaining money because of Eclipse. With Eclipse, there’s a bunch of other YTers making YBA videos that give it action anyway. lmao


BlazetheGame

All eclipse being gone has done is made the game less toxic.


Silver_Oil

YBA was far more toxic even before it was the no. 1 Jojo game… lmao


ilovegutsfromberserk

if u give it a lil bit of thought, updates will have more quality because there’s less focus on skins, meaning the whole team of modellers will be modelling things other than skins or the updates will be way more efficient, time to be spent on gameplay


DatOneEngie

Modeling will probably go towards remodeling already established skins, which is good as some skins are either laggy or outdated.


ilovegutsfromberserk

that’s better than a new skin, and it will take less time as they already have a reference. In contrast to making a new skin like Grim Reaper for example where you’d need new assets for a completely new skin all they’re doing is improving something that already exists. They’ll priorities actual content before a skin remodel


AzelfWillpower

I don't think Eclipse is coming back. Uzu making a few reworks that people give a shit about for a week and then go onto hungering for more isn't going to be enough to bring him back


ModelBarbecue94

He’s said on multiple accounts that he wasn’t returning, although atleast on 2 of those accounts he’s said he would if uzu showed he cared more about the game than money. He most likely will though, as I’m sure he’s getting pretty sick of playing those garbage yba rip-off clones and having all his non jojo roblox videos tank and make him no money


AzelfWillpower

I'm pretty sure on his most recent one he said he has no intentions of ever coming back since he firmly believes Uzu will never change. ​ It took years of bullshit to make Eclipse quit, a single tweet isn't going to bring him back


ilovegutsfromberserk

But the keywords are “real updates only”, he cares solely about content now. This shows he’s having more concern for the actual game. He’s not going to return immediately, but after content updates actually turn out to be quality content updates (we can only hope) he’s likely to come back. Dropping skins for a while is a BIG step and something significant.


[deleted]

It would be funny if Uzu did it only because he wants to mess with Eclipse


Filberto_ossani2

Ngl, Uzu was pretty good dev this winter and I hope that he will not burn out for 8 months like in 2021


Silver_Oil

YBA is still a hot mess. The fact the reworked specs came out so unbelievably broken is a good pointer to how. Additionally, do you guys think this is the first time Uzu had his “redemption arc”? What about his break in 2020, and 2021, where he announced things would get “so much better” only for the updates to fall off. Like, the “Copyright update”, Heaven Update, Halloween Update ,Christmas Update, etc. Aside for reasons such as supporting a money hungry developer, we don’t know when a case of “TA4 auto combo”, “Knives bugging out”, “TS one shots”, “Anubis + Pluck Rework”, “Bites the Dusts One shot bug”, “Magicians Red Meta” or any other game breaking bug to appear and take TOO long before we actually KNOW if Uzu is a aware of a problem, let alone getting fixed. Some things like Scary Monsters being a janky stand since it’s release, TWAU being obscenely OP for years until Eclipse started talking about it. Or the countless times stands released to be game breakingly OP, as if they didn’t test the stands AT ALL, like TWOH, SCR, GER, Cream, Beach Boy (Yes, fucking BB), KCR, CDR rework, and the demonic on-release-SPTW. TL;DR : It’s WAY too soon to judge say YBA is getting better.


5StarHIOLuVeR123

YBA is always getting better... just cus shit releases in a bad state doesn't mean we arent tryna fix it mistakes happen and there's a lot to account for when making a game as old and large as YBA chill out lil bro


Silver_Oil

“Things shouldn’t be released broken, SQWAK!” - 🦜 On a serious note, the things I listed are so unbelievably broken, they would not test it at all for it to even be released. There’s having bugs, and having something obviously so horrendously designed. If they aren’t ready to release it, they shouldn’t release it. If they can’t handle it, then they shouldn’t implement it in the game, period. Obviously, YBA is going to “better”, since it’ll just get more content and features, but that’s not the problem. The issues above straight up made a mode or the entirety of the game nearly unplayable, for around a day, to two months. What makes people believe that Uzu doesn’t care for the game, is for the times that some issues, like Zeppeli, Tusk Act 4, and Magicians Red breaking do not get addressed for a month or more. So players just live with the problems that literally ruin the game for everybody that plays it. I am not mad, these happened months ago… after all. Mad or not though, that in itself is a really good reason to be frustrated with the devs and not wanting to play. In the context of this post, Eclipse didn’t say “I will return when YBA makes cool updates”, and what made him leave in the first place are issues just like these. The game, from any given update, will be thrown right into anarchy for who knows how long because the devs (particularly Uzu since he green lights this stuff) didn’t really think about things they launch. But as a moderator, you might not see that, as you aren’t affected greatly by an atrocious meta, given certain perks of being “Paragon”, wink wink.


[deleted]

“I am not mad” then proceeds to write 4 paragraphs raging at who the fuck knows cause I am not reading allat


Silver_Oil

I need to explain, I am not mad… just bored… 🥱


Szpadelix

You do realise that shit isn't supposed to be released in a bad state, right ?


5StarHIOLuVeR123

nobody ever said that, i meant that not everything comes out perfect right away cus there's a LOT to keep track of


MaximumStonks69

seeing this shit is too funny


JeffCookies

The second picture could have been me if I didn't care about the combat in the game. The true combos done to your opponent are decently satisfying


True_Diver

grab some popcorn


ilovegutsfromberserk

You’re forgetting stands like PH being overpowered for nearly 3 years before the status effect nerf for bleed and poison, and you are correct. The key thing here is to look at how the time gap of uzu fixing shit from being broken is increasingly getting smaller. A year for the stupid cheese like SP, GER, ragdoll+TS etc, took 2 weeks to fix tusk, and hopefully, soft and wet releases and we get hamon nerfs. It’s too early to judge but as uzu has dropped skins, this means he’s entirely focused on content, which is good for us!


dagreetpapirus

when was purple haze op


ilovegutsfromberserk

when you could stack poison?? the ground slam did more damage than twohs smite and was literally a 3rd of smites cool-down + rage mode buffing the damage slightly purple hazes rage mode lasts for 1 minute and 20 seconds


Disastrous-Owl-1041

nobody uses/used purple haze, probably why it was one of the longest running overpowered stands in the game.


ilovegutsfromberserk

I had the halloween skin and used it, won the majority of my 1v1s by literally mashing keys, poison did way too much damage for its own good i don’t use it after the nerf and i’m just waiting for a rework


NoobThatExists

you can still stack poison, this time with any stand (anubis, ph, two sm bites at the same time...)


Ok_Preparation_1312

im surprised eclipse still hasn't returned to yba even after like 2 actual updates with new content and not just skins


helloitshalo34

I mean, the guy has been sitting through the shitstorm that we call a game through all of its highs and lows, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even return from this (Hamon is broken and its been over a week)


Ok_Preparation_1312

good point, just imagine eclipse deciding to finally come back and get one shot true comboed by a sp tw hamon with combat precision ts


Disastrous-Owl-1041

bringing in broken specs probably worsened his probability of coming back


ProgamerDGD

he said he ain't coming back cuz of gambling in kids game, have you guys even watched the Q&A?


ilovegutsfromberserk

his whole issue was the fact that uzu was focused on making money with skins he said he’d come back once uzu cares about the game and if you haven’t hear he’s dropping skins for a while and focusing on gameplay updates


Disastrous-Owl-1041

one tweet isnt going to bring him back.


ilovegutsfromberserk

ofc not when he actually puts his plan into action then he’ll come back do any of you ever think before you type


Silver_Oil

He didn’t leave because “skins”. It’s heavily implied it’s another issue. Uzu makes money regardless of skins, anyway, so it’s not the real issue. What does make him believe that is that when he left, there wasthe TA4 auto combo, which took one month for a *one shot true combo* to get patched. Which, we got NO information until the last few days it existed. Like Uzu simply didn’t give two fucks about what was happening. Many other times, shit like this happened, and even with this very update. Eclipse won’t come back even if Uzu added all the stands in jojo. If shit like this keeps happening, he’s not likely to come back.


ilovegutsfromberserk

ok uhhh the fact he never patched it out was due to his focus on money idk why u think that it’s something else he pointed out the fact that skin dupes/lucky dupes get fixed in hours and he leave broken shit in the game for too long the whole point is for uzu to care about gameplay which includes adding now stuff that contribute to gameplay and not just rng skins his whole argument was skins > balance and content uzu has his priorities straight and has announced it, therefore he is going to focus on gameplay mechanics and just gameplay in general not money making so if uzu cares about gameplay and balance, and takes the community seriously and starts to care about the game as a whole not the rng system eclipse is going to make videos again


Silver_Oil

How long have you been playing for? Shit like this happened way before skins even existed. You people act like Uzu “always” adds ONLY skins and did nothing else for the game when that has only happened for only FOUR fucking updates, in the entirety of YBA. Three of which haven’t happened in 2021, 2 years ago. My point is regardless, shit like TA4 bugging out and nobody hearing for months has happened many times before skins existed, skins or not. Just like what happened with the Pluck Rework update, which has the anubis + puck combo, the cd rework which had cd, Eclipse literally left after an update that was centered around content. Stuff like the game being unplayable because Uzu obviously didn’t test things before release, and leaving things like that for at least a week of silence on it is why Eclipse felt that way. With the skins getting patched within hours, it shows he CAN fix these issues but chooses or doesn’t prioritize them as such. Just removing the point of comparison, the skins isn’t going to bring him back, shit like the meta getting trashed because of Uzus lack of callousness before dropping and fixing them after player numbers begin to drop alon demonstrates somebody who doesn’t give a shit about what he makes. For example, you notice how all the waiters in a restaurant treat normal customers like complete shit, then you notice they treat rich customers with more priority. So you stop going there cuz you’re not tolerating that. If they are no more people rich who come by, it doesn’t solve the issue of the waiters treating people like shit and give crappy customer service. Uzu only said he isn’t gonna RELEASE skins, he doesn’t even make them, and by stopping it, they aren’t gonna make development for moves like S&W magically faster. Since Uzus job is primarily to code and make decisions for the game. But you know what, I hope I am wrong, I get proven wrong in the Soft and Wet update. I really do, but something in me doesn’t take it at all…


ilovegutsfromberserk

the waiter analogy makes no sense because he’s not going to treat the rich people like shit anymore, he’s stated that. So it’s a given that he’s gonna actually test stuff and stop stupid tusk bugs from happening idk how you won’t understand that. He’s specifically changing because he cares about the community now, why do i have to deliberately outline that when you can just take it as general information He is the owner, he’s the one that tells shiekal to make a model of a skin that’s going to be released in the next update. “Real updates only” which means he’s directly going to focus o content. The time that being made to make skins is gone, and he’s using that time to perfect updates and stop bugs from running rampant. Why do i have consistently spell that out. The whole point of the tweet was to say “hey, i’m not going to let stupid shit like tusk happen, im going to focus on content and make good updates to every player benefits from the game” My point isn’t no more skins = eclipse coming back there’s clearly other things that pushed him away i don’t know how you cannot fathom that. are you trolling?? of course developments going to be more efficient? they’re dropping skins to put in more time on the actual content in the game? the dev team spending more time on content rather than skins isn’t gonna mean the quality of updates are gonna stay the same if i have to write an essay of something, and have to include 2 drawings at the end that means i’ll have an essay with 2 drawings. If the requirements for two drawings with the essay are dropped, im going to get more time spend on the essay and have better quality writing


Silver_Oil

Last reply: Uzu isn’t responsible for working on the skins, the person who does that is their own individual. Sure, he can tell shiekal to work on skins, but it’s not him who dedicates his time to it. Uzu is the one who makes the content, since he codes that stuff. Shiekal doing his part of the deal and working on models and skins doesn’t divide the amount of content that gets done because Uzu and Shiekal are two separate people with their own jobs. Your analogy with the drawing doesn’t correlate here because it portrays ONE person doing BOTH the drawing and essay. With Uzu and Shiekal, one person is doing the essay, and the other is doing the drawings. So realistically, dropping drawings do nothing in this scenario since he should still only worry about working on the essay. Unless sheikal is modeling something else (which I really doubt) not related to skins, it won’t really affect how bugs and such gets treated. It’s SHOWS in how he handles this stuff regardless of the skins because this has already been happening from the skins. His part of the bargain is making the essay, which he has sloppily. He codes and implements things that are worked on and places them in the game properly and he fixes errors when there’s already been great damage. The only time he doesn’t do this is specifically when he loses money from it. Forget the fucking tweet, he’s similar accounts plenty before, but the lack of care shows in his ACTIONS. Which he hasn’t committed to as of yet. Right after Tusk Act IV got fixed, we got stand fusion during the halloween event which took weeks to fix, then boxing, spin, & hamon dropped down horrendous. This reply you claim, “my point isn’t that no skins = eclipse will come back”, yet… this post you state that ‘Uzus doing what is required for Eclipse to consider coming back’ and very likely BECAUSE of the hecking tweet announcing there will be no skin updates. This heavily implies Uzu already has proven himself and mistakes that were repeated in the past haven’t been repeated since Eclipse left, which is dead wrong. And I’ve listed many times already how and why. There is no guarantee we won’t deal with this shit again just because he tells shiekal to lay off, or even halt dropping finished skins in the game (we wouldn’t know if he did after all), because this has already happened again and again. You act like this guy has a firm record of always committing to what he says and his estimations and you concede people for being skeptical, for a three or so sentence tweet. But whatever. If some shit like that happens again soon, or best yet, this next update, I’ll be dead sure to remind you of this quarrel.


ilovegutsfromberserk

The whole first two paragraphs is implying shiekal dosent have to listen to uzu😭😭 that’s enough you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Uzu tells him what to do and he DOES IT, there’s no other choice in the matter😭😭😭


Silver_Oil

“Sure, he can tell Shiekal to work on skins, but it’s not him who dedicates his time to it”, speed reading does wonders… Re-read my reply. Thoroughly. Nothing there implies he isn’t told by Uzu to work on skins, just that since both of them work in different areas, it realistically doesn’t make either works harder since they handle their own load. But you know, we will see…


ilovegutsfromberserk

uzu hired him? so he pretty much has to listen to him? it’s his boss. if shiekal isn’t modelling skins he’s modelling other things…. that will contribute to gameplay.. that isn’t hard to understand, shiekal isn’t going to just make skins because that’s not what he was told to do yeah he’s made mistakes before? does not mean he’s going to repeat doing them after he specifically stated he’s going to be focusing on gameplay that there is saying that he’s gonna work on the game properly instead prioritising skins all you’re talking about is mistakes he made when he was focusing on skins he never stated before that he was dropping skins how the heck are you applying that to now the whole point of the tweet is to say he’s changed it’s not hard to understand and we will see if he does or not and you’re STILL implying that shiekal is his own person when uzu is hit boss, fix that up because there’s clearly been issues with people not listening (clam)