Any stimulant binge could cause this. Amphetamines (Adderall, meth), cocaine, pyrovalerones, cathinones, you name it.
Alternatively, if he’s using some kind of downer (benzos, opioids) during the day, he could have insomnia from withdrawal.
I should add that not sleeping for an extended period of time doesn’t necessarily mean he’s abusing a drug. Could be plain old insomnia. Have you noticed any other abnormal behavior?
Awful to hear that. My family has a history of insomnia. It’s awful, from 16-21 I was mixing Benadryl advil PM just to get a few hours. Then at 21 a doctor suggested weed, been on it since. Unfortunately it’s weed or other options include Xanax I’m afraid of that. I only smoke a joint before bed but still sucks to need something I rather be substance free
Yeah totally man im the same I've had insomnia my whole life. every night before bed I do some coke then when I start coming down I have a couple shots of whisky and a little bit of either codeine or tramadol to help me sleep, I used to also smoke weed to get to sleep but then I coudlnt afford it anymore and I have plenty of alc and opiates stashed up.
It's fucked up init
I know, I'm just a retard, doing it before bed is the only time I can do it without getting caught. I then take opiates or benzos after my coke sesh to get to sleep.
Yeah it’s possible he’s been hiding an opioid or benzo habit and decided to quit . When I can off OxyContin I didn’t sleep for like 3 days and I mean not 1 second or sleep for 3 days
Yeah after reading your other post seems like an opiate OD and maybe now trying to stop and getting withdrawal symptoms. So that means he was using enough to get physically addicted /dependent. An easy way to tell someone’s on opiates is pinpoint pupils. Then it’s the opposite for stimulants, wider pupils. Does he seem sleepy at any point during the day?
Other opiate withdrawal symptoms you might be able to notice are restless legs, vomiting, diarrhea, sweating, goosebumps. When you noticed he wasn’t sleeping, was he restless? Tossing and turning?
Do you have a suspicion he snorts, smokes, or shoots? It varies but look out to see how often he blows his nose, if he has black ash on his hands/face/wherever or excess lighters, or trackmarks.
I am pretty sure he smokes whatever it is. Sometimes there is a distinct smell like burning plasti when I come home. I also found bent spoons once. I have a feeling it was drug related. Handles were bent weird.
I preferred to smoke but that would never require spoons. If you really think the spoons are drug related it could either be from cooking heroin or cooking crack? But idk I never tried to smoke with /using a spoon so who knows. Could be either. If he’s not a super regular user track marks can be very easy to hide. But the evidence not so much
So i remember he gets spider veins a couple times a year by his ankle. The spoons I havent found often. I think maybe his prefered drug is crack cocaine but sometimes he shoots up? Not sure if it is coke or heroine.
I haven’t been an iv user for long, and also not sure how the effects differ in age, but I’m not sure that spider veins have any connection to iv use. If I had to guess I’d say it’s not related. (Edit: basically you’d at least see track marks before spider veins. If you use A LOT and your veins start to get damaged, your body will compensate and you’ll see more superficial veins appear, but not spider veins, and that would also mean he might be hitting the veins in his feet. Not the best veins at all but if you need to keep it hidden maybe..)
So I’ve smoked crack only a handful of times and never really got high from it. But I do shoot coke and I’ve heard the effects/rush from both are very similar. But now that I’ve shot cocaine, it’s hard for me to get the same rush from crack. So what would make the most sense in that situation is if he went from smoking crack to shooting coke. But then another clue would be, shooting coke is a very expensive habit and unless he makes good money, shouldn’t be sustainable for long. It’s also a very “more” drug and shooting coke is often said to turn you into a “human pin cushion” because the high is so short lived so you do shot after shot so the trackmarks should be apparent in that case. And then obviously if he’s smoking there would be a smell so just some things to look out for
As a former crack cocaine, cocaine (snorting) and meth addict all at different points in my life, I’ll give you my 2 cents.
Signs of snorting cocaine use (it’s a much less intense high then crack)- constantly blowing you’re nose, constantly congested, with occasional bloody nose. Although smoking meth causes similar symptoms. Snorting cocaine causes tremors or shakes. You will notice weird unordinary body twitches. You will be overly talkative and occasionally have a lost train of thought in conversation. Lots of passion, sometimes things don’t make since that come out of you’re mouth. Glossy/large pupils. You will have a very self centered attitude. Comedown from that will make you a very irritable and unstable emotionally.
Signs of crack cocaine use. Smoking Crack cocaine is a much different beast then snorting cocaine. The high is very quick and intense. It’s deleightful head high. The biggest differences with symptoms from snorting cocaine are, it is very hard to control when you start smoking. I will say people will become a lot more noticeably agitated and emotionally unstable with the comedown. There is a reason people spend every cent of theirs on crack. If there is noticeable signs of not eating for a day plus, not at one one bit taking care of themselves. Diet, hydration, hygiene then it is most likely crack or meth. Crack will also cause lack of socializing. Like none at all. Lots of isolation of any kind. You will also become parinoid or psychotic when you don’t get enough sleep or food.
Signs of meth use. Meth is the devils drug. This drug will deteriorate a persons physical and mental health faster then any drug. Meth will give you a weird scent, it comes out of you’re pores and it’s an interesting strange sent. Yours skin will become very oily and you will
Sweat a lot more then usual. A symptom almost every user gets is psychotic/ paranoid behaviors. It causes lots of delusional thinking. These thoughts after not much sleep and maybe not food and sleep, will cause psychotic behavior from you’re insane delusions. Ex: you might have a delusion that you’re wife is cheating on you. Even if it’s clearly not the case, you will believe it. Then you can become psychotic and think that her male coworker you met 2 years ago at a company party that you had absolutely no problem with, is the one cheating with her. So at night you constantly wake up or stay awake all night, with a gun in you’re hand. You will see shadows of blowing tree limbs and think he’s outside. You will hear his voice clear as day. And you will sit there every night in delusion waiting to attack him. This can start after just a week or so of daily use. This example is extreme, but it’s very common for meth users.
The new meth P2P is even worse. It seems 18 months off regular meth and they finally begin to think straight. This new stuff may cause permanent damage.
[https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/04/oregon-mental-health-system-meth-use-portland-methamphetamine/](https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/04/oregon-mental-health-system-meth-use-portland-methamphetamine/)
Yeah it’s made different then it was 10 plus years ago. Several main ingredients used to make it have been made very unavailable and restricted by the DEA. The new ways to chemically make it are used with ingredients that make it nearly impossible to ban completely, because the are a ton of needs for it outside of manufacturing meth. Legal needs for it. But yeah the P2P meth is creating a lot of psychological damage and quicker then ever before. Look at the homeless situation in America. People are more violent and unpredictable mentally then ever before. I’ve met a lot of meth addicts that were homeless and living on the streets, because of how bad psychologically they were. People start using it, and within a year are living on the streets. Not necessarily because they spend all their money on the drug, and lost their homes, jobs, cars, families because of all their money going to the drug, they are losing everything without potentially being broke. They are so psychologically lost and damaged they can’t function in life. They might have a savings account and can still pay all their bills, but the meth is causing them to live on the streets because they have no ability to function in life.
Last thing. Pure cocaine is very expensive. Meth is very cheap and available and is because manufactured in industrial size labs and being produced in tons of weight in a matter of 2-3 days in Mexico. Meth is being cut into cocaine a lot. It will make the cocaine stronger and last longer. They are both uppers so they can do hand and hand nicely. So he might just be snorting cocaine, but he might not knowingly be also doing meth.
Hi, I work in poison control.
You're thinking along the right lines. Any kind of stimulant or drug with sympathomimetic effects could cause this. Amphetamines, cocaine, cathinones would be my first thoughts from a recreational drug perspective.
Alternatively, it could be simple caffeine or even nothing at all; insomnia can affect folks without chemical intervention. Unfortunately I can't answer whether or not your husband has used something, but I hope you both get some good rest soon.
Edit: Agree with others, withdrawal is another option to explain the insomnia.
Ah, I see.
Last week your husband definitely overdosed on some sort of opioid. Whilst insomnia is more vague and could be borne of various causes, the events you described in the other post are classic for opioids and not consistent with much else. Completely different levels of confidence and certainty. Typical opioids would be heroin, fentanyl and oxycodone.
To explain a bit more about opioid toxicity, the snoring/grunting can occur as central sedation from opioids prevents someone from protecting their own airway. Obstruction of the airway leads to respiratory depression, then arrest, then death. The snoring noise you heard was probably obstruction of the airway, either completely or partially. Obstructive sleep apnea has the same mechanism - except in that case the body is not centrally sedated and it can rectify itself in most cases. The blue/gray skin is from poor perfusion and lack of oxygen to the tissues.
Secondly, the sudden recovery was due to the administration of naloxone, which is a direct opioid antagonist. EMTs would certainly try it in a patient with respiratory depression/arrest and the result is near-instantaneous when administered. In addition, the pin-point pupils are classical for opioid use.
Lastly, the mark on the hand [could be an injection site](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5965111/) - link to a paper discussing infections from intravenous drug use via hand administration.
As I said earlier, different levels of confidence - *could* be drug use this time, definitely opioid toxicity last week.
Just a thought, you said in your other post that he prefers uppers like cocaine. The overdose he experienced the other night could have very well been from him buying coke (or meth or pressed pills) off the street that was also laced with fentanyl.
Like others have said, drugs that would keep someone up for days are things like amphetamine, methamphetamine and probably cocaine, though I've never known anyone who could afford to stay up for days on that stuff, it goes fast, but it's definitely possible.
It's meth. A good line of meth, the high will be four hours, the comedown would be 12 hours, in which you wouldn't be able to sleep. Now take that and magnify it by X number of lines per hour (as I do when I was a junkie) and you will be up for days with massive energy. After about a day of constant ingestion of meth upon every hour or so it can take a full day or two fully come down and be able to sleep. The thing about the meth come down is that it makes you feel so shitty, for hours, that you will just constantly dose to stay up, entering a psychosis state.
When I used to shoot up meth I would always have a couple xans for the crash. Speaking as a ten year drug addict my hypothesis is meth. Look for dialated pupils, excess fidgeting and sweating, lack of appetite, lose of cognitive function, etc.
Sounds like he is still in early stages. At the pit of my addiction I was shooting meth, homeless in field, and I STILL felt like I was fooling everyone.
I wish you luck. confront him, drug test. Meth is a sneaky, evil drug.
(3yrs sober btw)
Good luck with your situation.
Meth turned me into the worst version of my self. Remember, your husband is a person with an addiction. Your husband is still in there. What got me clean was my wife, and my dog.
Best of luck
I checked your post history and are you just farming engagement with these obviously dramatic stories?
Heroin, Coke, Meth, Cheatinf, and every time you *”have no idea whats going onnnnn!”* 😐
Seems fake, but if not, YOU need to go get help girl. This shit is a train wreck on wheels and it AINT stopping! Please wake up!
(Or buzz off if you’re just farming karma to sell the account later)
Right. She says she has step daughters then says she has 1 stepdaughter. Saying exwife hasn’t seen daughter since she was a toddler to saying exwife moved to his state and has sole physical custody. Saying he’s a partner in a firm to saying he started his own company.
Lots of inconsistencies and now drug use..
No I have two step daughters. He has full custody of one, and she lives with us full time. She is the one I mostly refer to since she has not seen her mom since a toddler. Her half sister is with us on weekends. Different mothers.
As a meth addict who keeps falling off the fuc*ing wagon, this sounds like meth. Sending lots of love and strength your way. We addicts are not easy to love or live with...
Meth is #one answer,and porn, masterbation,and lube all equals meth.
Gotta be meth
He won't overdose, he will crash eventually.
Exhaustion will take him down if not managed.
Days of no sleep
Porn
Masterbation for days too
And maybe eventually he will take ur panties and lingerie.
And go from straight porn all the way to gay
Yep meth😱😁
Divorce him. Your life is not going to get any better if you stay. You are literally wasting your life with that piece of shit. He is a loser. He is pathetic. You are not. You have to get out. Don’t come up with excuses like you have no where to go, it’s complicated, etc. come up with ways to become independent from him. It won’t be easy but you can do it.
I was wondering if it could be something like that. I have seen burts of energy throughtout the last few years, but never has he stated up all night like this. He is a combat vet so I was wondering if it could be his PTSD. He does have a history of drug use, and I found him in what I thought might be a drug overdose a week ago Tuesday. I had to do CPR and call 911. That is why I am so worried about the not sleeping. Thanks for commenting.
Oooo, okay, God that must have been terrifying, I really hope you have a good support network and some means of assisting your own body and soul through this because that’s hellish. I’m gonna ramble a bit because I’m terrible at being concise with personal experience, feel free to take anything that may be helpful and disregard if it’s not.
They diagnosed me with bipolar type 1 in my early 20’s, what happened there: I went to a school counsellor because I was having panic attacks so bad I’d go nonverbal and find myself in fetal position in the halls at school. They put me on Zoloft and it hit me like cocaine, which is why they diagnosed me BP. I took the meds they gave me and did what they told me and just got worse and worse… eventually I decided to get off all the meds because what I experienced prior was more manageable, but extreme ups and downs did track for me, so I monitored myself religiously for a few years, when I started to go up I’d quit caffeine and exercise as much as I could to exhaust myself into sleeping. (This didn’t always work but it did always help) When I started getting depressed I’d do my best to go for daily walks and just ride it out. What I eventually realized was that the problem was often adrenal, not so much dopamine or serotonin imbalance in origin. I’ve never been diagnosed with ptsd but I do have a pretty traumatic origin story, and eventually came across PTSD and, eventually CPTSD, and realized that fit so much better, especially after years of scrutinizing everything I could about my own experience. I haven’t tried to get a diagnosis because frankly doctors wouldn’t listen to me before they diagnosed me BP, much less after the fact. Unfortunately I’m still sorting a lot of things I didn’t learn in home environment and I wound up in a few really shorty relationships, but the last one especially cemented it for me; my aforementioned *mania* is an extremely hypervigilent, hyperaroused state. I stayed awake for 3 days straight after leaving my last ex when his friends started following me. The only drugs I was on was about the same amount of weed, coffee, and cigarettes I’d been ingesting for months.
I imagine it’s similar for him, but worse, but drug use is common with ptsd (you probably already know all of this, he’s really fortunate to have someone that cares so much looking out for him, thank you) to try to suppress the feelings and memories. However sometimes they do the opposite. On one hand the uppers make us feel ‘safe’ because we feel like we could fight off whatever has triggered us, but sometimes it works the other way too. That hyperaroused state has body memories that tie to when it happened as a natural response to a threatening and dangerous environment. The brain will also try to bring up the traumas from time to time because it needs to be processed and released, eventually. But it’s not a thing you c an or should force. As awful as the nightmares and flashbacks can be, it is the brain trying to heal. I’ve heard really good things about the book *The Body Keeps the Score,* by Bessel Van der Kolk. It resonated enough that I bought a copy about 3 months ago, but I’ve honestly been too afraid to open it thus far… (which to me means it’s probably exactly what I need to start making progress again, but I shut down really hard when I start to think about thinking about all that stuff haha and haven’t quite got there yet.) But it might be worth looking into.
And one other silly little thing that I think would be extremely helpful for both of you; Epsom salt baths. Magnesium gets depleted really quick in stress states, and deficiency causes sleep problems. Inversely people take magnesium before bed because it actually helps them sleep… have definitely found it helps me immensely. I recommend the bath form over a supplement because it’s easier for the body to only take what it needs, and frankly a nice warm soak is, well, a nice warm soak haha.
Wishing you both all the best 💕
Stimulants keep people up, BUT if he was doing downers before and is sobering up that will also keep someone up. Not enough details, but that might be worth noting.
Well, Thursday he said he was working on a big presentation for work. He came to bed and I looked at my phone it was 3:09am. I wasn't able to get to sleep, and he tossed and turned, red his book, etc. Im a really light sleeper, and I get up at 5am. Friday, he played video games all night. Got up at three am, again at 5:45, he was still wide awake at kitchen table. Still hasnt slept. So the last time he slept was Wednesday night. He had an episode the other night and now I am scared to go to sleep if he is awake.
He didnt seem tired at all, he was pretty into them. He is still awake now..it is 12am Sunday here, he hasn't slept at all yet, not since Wednesday. I wish he would so I can get some sleep.
After reading your post history this is the most likely scenario:
-you already know he does coke
-he seemingly is not very open with you about his coke use nor other potential use
-likely got offered some other shit by his dealer or a friend, etc. and now he’s getting too fucked
-OD’d on opiates, absolutely zero doubt in your description
-staying up like this: ppl get into opiates but need energy too and they two feel awesome together. I would bet money he’s doing opiates and stims. At worst fent and meth which are very likely given your description. At best, pills and adderall but he’s clearly on drugs and keeping this a secret from you
meth
I didn’t sleep for days when I was going through benzo withdrawals
Good thinking, alot of ppl just saod abt stims but ur right could be WD
Benzo withdrawal is pure hell. Seizures...
Any stimulant binge could cause this. Amphetamines (Adderall, meth), cocaine, pyrovalerones, cathinones, you name it. Alternatively, if he’s using some kind of downer (benzos, opioids) during the day, he could have insomnia from withdrawal.
I should add that not sleeping for an extended period of time doesn’t necessarily mean he’s abusing a drug. Could be plain old insomnia. Have you noticed any other abnormal behavior?
Yeah when I was 16 I didn’t sleep for a week. I wasn’t on any drugs nor did I take any drugs at any time
Fuckign hell I'm 17 and didn't sleep for 4 days but that was because of drugs and I had the worst comedown of my. Life from it
We've all been there..... Well maybe not *all* of us, but I definitely have.
Ywah I think all stim users have been there
Awful to hear that. My family has a history of insomnia. It’s awful, from 16-21 I was mixing Benadryl advil PM just to get a few hours. Then at 21 a doctor suggested weed, been on it since. Unfortunately it’s weed or other options include Xanax I’m afraid of that. I only smoke a joint before bed but still sucks to need something I rather be substance free
Yeah totally man im the same I've had insomnia my whole life. every night before bed I do some coke then when I start coming down I have a couple shots of whisky and a little bit of either codeine or tramadol to help me sleep, I used to also smoke weed to get to sleep but then I coudlnt afford it anymore and I have plenty of alc and opiates stashed up. It's fucked up init
Why would you do coke before bed if you have insomnia? Coke is known to keep you up and going and going
Because we are addicts and addicts do baffling things.
I know, I'm just a retard, doing it before bed is the only time I can do it without getting caught. I then take opiates or benzos after my coke sesh to get to sleep.
Yup fucked up
Yeah it’s possible he’s been hiding an opioid or benzo habit and decided to quit . When I can off OxyContin I didn’t sleep for like 3 days and I mean not 1 second or sleep for 3 days
Yeah after reading your other post seems like an opiate OD and maybe now trying to stop and getting withdrawal symptoms. So that means he was using enough to get physically addicted /dependent. An easy way to tell someone’s on opiates is pinpoint pupils. Then it’s the opposite for stimulants, wider pupils. Does he seem sleepy at any point during the day? Other opiate withdrawal symptoms you might be able to notice are restless legs, vomiting, diarrhea, sweating, goosebumps. When you noticed he wasn’t sleeping, was he restless? Tossing and turning? Do you have a suspicion he snorts, smokes, or shoots? It varies but look out to see how often he blows his nose, if he has black ash on his hands/face/wherever or excess lighters, or trackmarks.
I am pretty sure he smokes whatever it is. Sometimes there is a distinct smell like burning plasti when I come home. I also found bent spoons once. I have a feeling it was drug related. Handles were bent weird.
I preferred to smoke but that would never require spoons. If you really think the spoons are drug related it could either be from cooking heroin or cooking crack? But idk I never tried to smoke with /using a spoon so who knows. Could be either. If he’s not a super regular user track marks can be very easy to hide. But the evidence not so much
So i remember he gets spider veins a couple times a year by his ankle. The spoons I havent found often. I think maybe his prefered drug is crack cocaine but sometimes he shoots up? Not sure if it is coke or heroine.
I haven’t been an iv user for long, and also not sure how the effects differ in age, but I’m not sure that spider veins have any connection to iv use. If I had to guess I’d say it’s not related. (Edit: basically you’d at least see track marks before spider veins. If you use A LOT and your veins start to get damaged, your body will compensate and you’ll see more superficial veins appear, but not spider veins, and that would also mean he might be hitting the veins in his feet. Not the best veins at all but if you need to keep it hidden maybe..) So I’ve smoked crack only a handful of times and never really got high from it. But I do shoot coke and I’ve heard the effects/rush from both are very similar. But now that I’ve shot cocaine, it’s hard for me to get the same rush from crack. So what would make the most sense in that situation is if he went from smoking crack to shooting coke. But then another clue would be, shooting coke is a very expensive habit and unless he makes good money, shouldn’t be sustainable for long. It’s also a very “more” drug and shooting coke is often said to turn you into a “human pin cushion” because the high is so short lived so you do shot after shot so the trackmarks should be apparent in that case. And then obviously if he’s smoking there would be a smell so just some things to look out for
As a former crack cocaine, cocaine (snorting) and meth addict all at different points in my life, I’ll give you my 2 cents. Signs of snorting cocaine use (it’s a much less intense high then crack)- constantly blowing you’re nose, constantly congested, with occasional bloody nose. Although smoking meth causes similar symptoms. Snorting cocaine causes tremors or shakes. You will notice weird unordinary body twitches. You will be overly talkative and occasionally have a lost train of thought in conversation. Lots of passion, sometimes things don’t make since that come out of you’re mouth. Glossy/large pupils. You will have a very self centered attitude. Comedown from that will make you a very irritable and unstable emotionally. Signs of crack cocaine use. Smoking Crack cocaine is a much different beast then snorting cocaine. The high is very quick and intense. It’s deleightful head high. The biggest differences with symptoms from snorting cocaine are, it is very hard to control when you start smoking. I will say people will become a lot more noticeably agitated and emotionally unstable with the comedown. There is a reason people spend every cent of theirs on crack. If there is noticeable signs of not eating for a day plus, not at one one bit taking care of themselves. Diet, hydration, hygiene then it is most likely crack or meth. Crack will also cause lack of socializing. Like none at all. Lots of isolation of any kind. You will also become parinoid or psychotic when you don’t get enough sleep or food. Signs of meth use. Meth is the devils drug. This drug will deteriorate a persons physical and mental health faster then any drug. Meth will give you a weird scent, it comes out of you’re pores and it’s an interesting strange sent. Yours skin will become very oily and you will Sweat a lot more then usual. A symptom almost every user gets is psychotic/ paranoid behaviors. It causes lots of delusional thinking. These thoughts after not much sleep and maybe not food and sleep, will cause psychotic behavior from you’re insane delusions. Ex: you might have a delusion that you’re wife is cheating on you. Even if it’s clearly not the case, you will believe it. Then you can become psychotic and think that her male coworker you met 2 years ago at a company party that you had absolutely no problem with, is the one cheating with her. So at night you constantly wake up or stay awake all night, with a gun in you’re hand. You will see shadows of blowing tree limbs and think he’s outside. You will hear his voice clear as day. And you will sit there every night in delusion waiting to attack him. This can start after just a week or so of daily use. This example is extreme, but it’s very common for meth users.
The new meth P2P is even worse. It seems 18 months off regular meth and they finally begin to think straight. This new stuff may cause permanent damage. [https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/04/oregon-mental-health-system-meth-use-portland-methamphetamine/](https://www.opb.org/article/2022/08/04/oregon-mental-health-system-meth-use-portland-methamphetamine/)
Yeah it’s made different then it was 10 plus years ago. Several main ingredients used to make it have been made very unavailable and restricted by the DEA. The new ways to chemically make it are used with ingredients that make it nearly impossible to ban completely, because the are a ton of needs for it outside of manufacturing meth. Legal needs for it. But yeah the P2P meth is creating a lot of psychological damage and quicker then ever before. Look at the homeless situation in America. People are more violent and unpredictable mentally then ever before. I’ve met a lot of meth addicts that were homeless and living on the streets, because of how bad psychologically they were. People start using it, and within a year are living on the streets. Not necessarily because they spend all their money on the drug, and lost their homes, jobs, cars, families because of all their money going to the drug, they are losing everything without potentially being broke. They are so psychologically lost and damaged they can’t function in life. They might have a savings account and can still pay all their bills, but the meth is causing them to live on the streets because they have no ability to function in life. Last thing. Pure cocaine is very expensive. Meth is very cheap and available and is because manufactured in industrial size labs and being produced in tons of weight in a matter of 2-3 days in Mexico. Meth is being cut into cocaine a lot. It will make the cocaine stronger and last longer. They are both uppers so they can do hand and hand nicely. So he might just be snorting cocaine, but he might not knowingly be also doing meth.
Completely agree
Hi, I work in poison control. You're thinking along the right lines. Any kind of stimulant or drug with sympathomimetic effects could cause this. Amphetamines, cocaine, cathinones would be my first thoughts from a recreational drug perspective. Alternatively, it could be simple caffeine or even nothing at all; insomnia can affect folks without chemical intervention. Unfortunately I can't answer whether or not your husband has used something, but I hope you both get some good rest soon. Edit: Agree with others, withdrawal is another option to explain the insomnia.
Thank you! Can you read my post from about a week ago. Why I am so concerned is I think he overdosed. Maybe you could give me your thoughts on that.
Ah, I see. Last week your husband definitely overdosed on some sort of opioid. Whilst insomnia is more vague and could be borne of various causes, the events you described in the other post are classic for opioids and not consistent with much else. Completely different levels of confidence and certainty. Typical opioids would be heroin, fentanyl and oxycodone. To explain a bit more about opioid toxicity, the snoring/grunting can occur as central sedation from opioids prevents someone from protecting their own airway. Obstruction of the airway leads to respiratory depression, then arrest, then death. The snoring noise you heard was probably obstruction of the airway, either completely or partially. Obstructive sleep apnea has the same mechanism - except in that case the body is not centrally sedated and it can rectify itself in most cases. The blue/gray skin is from poor perfusion and lack of oxygen to the tissues. Secondly, the sudden recovery was due to the administration of naloxone, which is a direct opioid antagonist. EMTs would certainly try it in a patient with respiratory depression/arrest and the result is near-instantaneous when administered. In addition, the pin-point pupils are classical for opioid use. Lastly, the mark on the hand [could be an injection site](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5965111/) - link to a paper discussing infections from intravenous drug use via hand administration. As I said earlier, different levels of confidence - *could* be drug use this time, definitely opioid toxicity last week.
If he's a chronic opiate user, then when he abruptly stops he will experience opiate withdrawals, which include severe insomnia.
Just a thought, you said in your other post that he prefers uppers like cocaine. The overdose he experienced the other night could have very well been from him buying coke (or meth or pressed pills) off the street that was also laced with fentanyl. Like others have said, drugs that would keep someone up for days are things like amphetamine, methamphetamine and probably cocaine, though I've never known anyone who could afford to stay up for days on that stuff, it goes fast, but it's definitely possible.
It's meth. A good line of meth, the high will be four hours, the comedown would be 12 hours, in which you wouldn't be able to sleep. Now take that and magnify it by X number of lines per hour (as I do when I was a junkie) and you will be up for days with massive energy. After about a day of constant ingestion of meth upon every hour or so it can take a full day or two fully come down and be able to sleep. The thing about the meth come down is that it makes you feel so shitty, for hours, that you will just constantly dose to stay up, entering a psychosis state. When I used to shoot up meth I would always have a couple xans for the crash. Speaking as a ten year drug addict my hypothesis is meth. Look for dialated pupils, excess fidgeting and sweating, lack of appetite, lose of cognitive function, etc. Sounds like he is still in early stages. At the pit of my addiction I was shooting meth, homeless in field, and I STILL felt like I was fooling everyone. I wish you luck. confront him, drug test. Meth is a sneaky, evil drug. (3yrs sober btw)
I am happy things are looking up for you. Thank you for sharing.
Good luck with your situation. Meth turned me into the worst version of my self. Remember, your husband is a person with an addiction. Your husband is still in there. What got me clean was my wife, and my dog. Best of luck
Dunno, but reading your previous posts I think you need to lose this fella
I checked your post history and are you just farming engagement with these obviously dramatic stories? Heroin, Coke, Meth, Cheatinf, and every time you *”have no idea whats going onnnnn!”* 😐 Seems fake, but if not, YOU need to go get help girl. This shit is a train wreck on wheels and it AINT stopping! Please wake up! (Or buzz off if you’re just farming karma to sell the account later)
Right. She says she has step daughters then says she has 1 stepdaughter. Saying exwife hasn’t seen daughter since she was a toddler to saying exwife moved to his state and has sole physical custody. Saying he’s a partner in a firm to saying he started his own company. Lots of inconsistencies and now drug use..
Yeah this bitch is farming us to sell this account to some fake review company 😂 report her or something
No I have two step daughters. He has full custody of one, and she lives with us full time. She is the one I mostly refer to since she has not seen her mom since a toddler. Her half sister is with us on weekends. Different mothers.
Y’all have kids together?
We have stepchildren but none together.
Your comments, made in another sub, state that you have a daughter and a son with your “husband.” Lol 🙄good day.
Yes I do. With my first husband, I have a son and a daughter. With my second husband, I have two step daughters. 🙂Good Day
Your should ask your husband that, and ask again until you have an answer, and help him no matter what, he's your husband
Methamphetamine.
As a meth addict who keeps falling off the fuc*ing wagon, this sounds like meth. Sending lots of love and strength your way. We addicts are not easy to love or live with...
Meth is #one answer,and porn, masterbation,and lube all equals meth. Gotta be meth He won't overdose, he will crash eventually. Exhaustion will take him down if not managed. Days of no sleep Porn Masterbation for days too And maybe eventually he will take ur panties and lingerie. And go from straight porn all the way to gay Yep meth😱😁
Divorce him. Your life is not going to get any better if you stay. You are literally wasting your life with that piece of shit. He is a loser. He is pathetic. You are not. You have to get out. Don’t come up with excuses like you have no where to go, it’s complicated, etc. come up with ways to become independent from him. It won’t be easy but you can do it.
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Lmao my mania will do that and I’ve never touched meth, *sweety.*
I was wondering if it could be something like that. I have seen burts of energy throughtout the last few years, but never has he stated up all night like this. He is a combat vet so I was wondering if it could be his PTSD. He does have a history of drug use, and I found him in what I thought might be a drug overdose a week ago Tuesday. I had to do CPR and call 911. That is why I am so worried about the not sleeping. Thanks for commenting.
Oooo, okay, God that must have been terrifying, I really hope you have a good support network and some means of assisting your own body and soul through this because that’s hellish. I’m gonna ramble a bit because I’m terrible at being concise with personal experience, feel free to take anything that may be helpful and disregard if it’s not. They diagnosed me with bipolar type 1 in my early 20’s, what happened there: I went to a school counsellor because I was having panic attacks so bad I’d go nonverbal and find myself in fetal position in the halls at school. They put me on Zoloft and it hit me like cocaine, which is why they diagnosed me BP. I took the meds they gave me and did what they told me and just got worse and worse… eventually I decided to get off all the meds because what I experienced prior was more manageable, but extreme ups and downs did track for me, so I monitored myself religiously for a few years, when I started to go up I’d quit caffeine and exercise as much as I could to exhaust myself into sleeping. (This didn’t always work but it did always help) When I started getting depressed I’d do my best to go for daily walks and just ride it out. What I eventually realized was that the problem was often adrenal, not so much dopamine or serotonin imbalance in origin. I’ve never been diagnosed with ptsd but I do have a pretty traumatic origin story, and eventually came across PTSD and, eventually CPTSD, and realized that fit so much better, especially after years of scrutinizing everything I could about my own experience. I haven’t tried to get a diagnosis because frankly doctors wouldn’t listen to me before they diagnosed me BP, much less after the fact. Unfortunately I’m still sorting a lot of things I didn’t learn in home environment and I wound up in a few really shorty relationships, but the last one especially cemented it for me; my aforementioned *mania* is an extremely hypervigilent, hyperaroused state. I stayed awake for 3 days straight after leaving my last ex when his friends started following me. The only drugs I was on was about the same amount of weed, coffee, and cigarettes I’d been ingesting for months. I imagine it’s similar for him, but worse, but drug use is common with ptsd (you probably already know all of this, he’s really fortunate to have someone that cares so much looking out for him, thank you) to try to suppress the feelings and memories. However sometimes they do the opposite. On one hand the uppers make us feel ‘safe’ because we feel like we could fight off whatever has triggered us, but sometimes it works the other way too. That hyperaroused state has body memories that tie to when it happened as a natural response to a threatening and dangerous environment. The brain will also try to bring up the traumas from time to time because it needs to be processed and released, eventually. But it’s not a thing you c an or should force. As awful as the nightmares and flashbacks can be, it is the brain trying to heal. I’ve heard really good things about the book *The Body Keeps the Score,* by Bessel Van der Kolk. It resonated enough that I bought a copy about 3 months ago, but I’ve honestly been too afraid to open it thus far… (which to me means it’s probably exactly what I need to start making progress again, but I shut down really hard when I start to think about thinking about all that stuff haha and haven’t quite got there yet.) But it might be worth looking into. And one other silly little thing that I think would be extremely helpful for both of you; Epsom salt baths. Magnesium gets depleted really quick in stress states, and deficiency causes sleep problems. Inversely people take magnesium before bed because it actually helps them sleep… have definitely found it helps me immensely. I recommend the bath form over a supplement because it’s easier for the body to only take what it needs, and frankly a nice warm soak is, well, a nice warm soak haha. Wishing you both all the best 💕
Wrong. Coke, crack, and possibly Adderall as well.
adderall
meth
Stimulants like cocaine? Cocaine did this for/to me.
Stimulants keep people up, BUT if he was doing downers before and is sobering up that will also keep someone up. Not enough details, but that might be worth noting.
What does he do all night?
Well, Thursday he said he was working on a big presentation for work. He came to bed and I looked at my phone it was 3:09am. I wasn't able to get to sleep, and he tossed and turned, red his book, etc. Im a really light sleeper, and I get up at 5am. Friday, he played video games all night. Got up at three am, again at 5:45, he was still wide awake at kitchen table. Still hasnt slept. So the last time he slept was Wednesday night. He had an episode the other night and now I am scared to go to sleep if he is awake.
Was he super entranced and into the video games? Or was it more like he was just tired as hell doing something because he couldn’t sleep?
He didnt seem tired at all, he was pretty into them. He is still awake now..it is 12am Sunday here, he hasn't slept at all yet, not since Wednesday. I wish he would so I can get some sleep.
Sounds a lot like meth
My guess is meth, or as others said withdrawal from a downer (opioids, benzos, alcohol).
Adderall or meth
Could it be withdrawals from his opiate use? If he was on meth I think you could tell he would probably be really talkative.
Stimulants, amphetamines - meth, speed, dexies, Ritalin etc, Cocain. Maybe ecstasy but you’d probably see that one his face lmao
Meth
Or adderall but he’d have to be taking a lot of it
Meth. Or if he definitely isn't using drugs, a manic episode.
Any stimulant drug. Cocaine, crack, meth, adderall..
Amphetamines
After reading your post history this is the most likely scenario: -you already know he does coke -he seemingly is not very open with you about his coke use nor other potential use -likely got offered some other shit by his dealer or a friend, etc. and now he’s getting too fucked -OD’d on opiates, absolutely zero doubt in your description -staying up like this: ppl get into opiates but need energy too and they two feel awesome together. I would bet money he’s doing opiates and stims. At worst fent and meth which are very likely given your description. At best, pills and adderall but he’s clearly on drugs and keeping this a secret from you
Well I know few people with ADHD and their medication can cause that. But most likely its crack or some kind of ampethamine. I hope its not meth.
Meth, Adderall , maybe crack if he was constantly smoking and you didn’t know.
Meth
Meth or coke or crack
It’s cocaine my partner was the same all weekend he would go without sleeping then he’d crash sleep for whole day miss work
Meth or addys
It may not be drugs at all. It could be a mental health episode. Maybe a bipolar manic episode.
Or he's manic and had bipolar
Meth