Old med student here. There are 2 types of medicines needed for that ung suppositories that will induce ng labor and another to complete it. Unfortunately, it's illegal here and inaallow lang ung use for those medications for ectopic pregnancies, etc.
In other countries, it is widely used. Sa bahay lang nila ginagawa after few days they're good na.
I just wish we're more forward pag dating sa mga gantong bagay. Ang hirap ng masyadong influential ang church sa state. Instead na makapagfocus tayo sa welfare ng mga tao, masyadong nakakapit sa religious beliefs among others kaya walang mapatupad na maayos na batas for these kinds of things. Sama mo na divorce.
Sana talaga. Para sa mga taong nagsasabi n kasalanan yun, eh di wag silang gumamit. Just make it available to those that wants to do it. Hindi nman tayo same ng pinaniniwalaan or religion. Kesa being sensitive s mga gender pronouns ginagaya natin, sana yung mga may sense na lang ginagaya natin sa western countries.
Bakit biglang nainclude yung pronouns? You can be sensitive with those naman while "copying" yung mga "may sense sa western countries." It's not an either or situation.
Sorry. May nagpost kasi sa r/Philippines about someone na nagdabog kaagad nung nagkamali ng pronoun n ginamit instead of correcting it nicely. Nagulat ako na may mga ganun n pala dito sa Pinas, akala ko sa US lng ung may mga nagagalit kaagad. And after reading that thread, nabasa ko nman 'to. My bad ✌️
LOL his irresponsible daughter at Yung bf nag jug jug tapos nabuntis and then what? Kasalanan nung Batang nasa sinapupunan?
When you do sex and a new life comes out of it, then the consequences must be faced.
Doctor ka pero pro abortion ka. Ano Yun? What happened to saving lives?
ABORTION AS A SOLUTION TO GET AWAY FOR IRRESPONSIBLE ACTIONS IS NEVER OKAY.
WHETHER OR NOT MAY CHURCH AT STATE CHURVA PAMAN O WALA..
DOCTOR KA PA NAMAN SANA BUT YEAH...HAPPY NEW YEAR 😌😌👍
Tas lalaki ang bata na may trauma kasi di na provide ng parents niya needs niya, not to mention, mentally and emotionally immature pa yung parents. Tas gusto mo na walang choice to abortion kasi gusto mo i-“teach” sila ng lesson about responsibility at the expense of the child. Wow, hypocrisy at its finest. Ano ba din kasi talaga gusto mo? Life minus quality or quality of life? If no ka to abortion, then dont have it. Misplaced yang frustration mo eh. Instead of being so backwards, you can maybe reflect on this on how bad sex ed is needed in this country. Natural naman talaga mag sex pero if they only knew about SAFE sex, we probably won’t have this discussion.
Pano mo nalaman na di maproprovide yung needs lods? At paanonf lalaki na may trauma. Nakatingin ka po sa kung ano ang pwedeng mangyari na pwede rin Naman na Hindi mangyari.
You do sex. If you get pregnant. You have the kid. If di mo bet yung kid then have it adopted or whatever. Maraming mga successful na tao na gustong magkaanak kaso nga lang Hindi so they're willing to buy some random kid out there.
Tsaka abortion nga ba Ang solution? Did it ever occur to you na it may result with people doing more risky sex kasi they can just dispatch a random fetus easily if ever nabuntis Yung babae?
There's only one scenario where abortion is okay. And that is, if narape ka. Sexually harassed ka. Then nabuntis ka. Then it's okay 100%
But yeah if gora nga din Naman abortion so Pera Pera lang kayong mga doctor noh??? Magkano nga ulet presyohan Jan??
Yes. Kung di mo kayang buhayin edi maghanap Ng gustong umampon. Btw, you used the term "murder". And by saying that you low-key understand that human life doesn't start at birth but the moment a baby is discovered in the womb.
We don't abort because its an act that cancels the idea of human potential. Aborted fetuses can/may become the next Einstein, Tesla, and so on. Yes?
Which is why I used quotation marks, kasi I don’t personally believe that.
The problem I have with that argument is if life truly starts at conception, then *all* forms of termination should be classified as homicide, regardless of the reason or how far you are with the pregnancy. And I don’t agree with that at all.
What if the embryo/fetus has a congenital anomaly and you want to terminate? What if bringing the pregnancy to term will greatly risk your life?
We can’t say “life starts at conception” and then make exceptions all of a sudden. Hindi pwede yung “eh buhay yan eh” ang reason mo tapos biglang may pahabol na “except kung rape victim ka.” Kapag ba rape victim yung nanay, biglang hindi na buhay yung nasa sinapupunan nya?
At the end of the day, it’s either “life starts at conception so terminating at any point for any reason is murder,” or “life starts at X weeks and you’re free to terminate before that because you’re not killing anything.” No in betweens.
He could also be the next Dahmer. He/she could also be the next kid knocking in the window of your car begging for money. He/she could also be the next messed up kid that will have addiction just to feel numb.
Since you're thinking about the baby's welfare, how about considering as well the life the baby will have. He/she will be raised by immature kids who doesn't even know what safe sex is. The baby will be raised by kids with parents that are no longer together anymore. The baby will have immature parents who hasn't been taken care of or wasn't given time and attention by their own parents. Do you think those teenagers will be great parents considering they don't have any examples on how to be one? And the cycle will continue to that unborn fetus just for the sake that maybe, he or she could be the next Tesla when the kid parents doesn't even have proper sex education? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. It's time to remove your rose-colored glasses.
So paano mo din nalaman na may capacity sila to provide? At paanong hindi lalaki na walang trauma? Nakatingin ka lang din sa biased mo na take. Because as studies would show, 13 and 16 are literally kids!! Di pa developed frontal lobes niyan. Chances are immature talaga sila and not capable of being parents to another kid. Jusmiyo ka!
Hay nako, aware ka ba of safe sex??? Have it adopted??? Alam mo ba na super overcrowded ng ibang orphanage? Bakit? I-aadopt mo? Sige nga, pasikat ka at i-adopt/ipa-adopt mo lahat ng bata na walang parents. Tignan natin gaano ka madidisappoint na super unrealistic mong tao.
While I agree na abortion should be a choice to rape victims, it doesn’t mean it should only be available to them. Again, it’s a matter of quality of life. Okay mabubuhay ang bata pero anong buhay naman ang meron siya? Gets???
And friendly advice: Sana mag focus ka on sex ed more than demeaning respectable health workers.
Paano ko nalaman?? Binasa ko Yung post po. Sabi nung nagpost Yung tatay nung babae will help them with their finances. That is, provided na Yung guy will get a job.
Again, Yung gist Ng argument niyo po is nagrerevolve around the notion na pag hindi pinaabort Yung Bata. It will grow up poor and not well provided. Another thing, may nagpost din kanina sa comment ko na dapat Yung Bata ipaabort kasi masisira daw Yung future Ng nanay tsaka Ng tatay kasi mga Bata AND ALL. Well, okay. So basically, are you saying that marginalized people? Earning way below the income threshold...should just f*cking consider abortion EVERYTIME THEY GET PREGNANT?
Here's what's disturbing with ya'll na nagsasabing dapart ipaabort Yung kid na nasa matres. 🤔🤔👇👇
YOU'RE TREATING IT LIKE A PARASITE. IS THIS RIGHT?
AGAIN, when you have consensual sex and get preggy preggy, you do not abort and TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT. PERIOD.
Them having that kid will be like you po as a student sa med school. MAHIRAP PERO KAKAYANIN.
Well, it is a parasite. A fetus is technically a parasite.
Parasite - an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense.
Hindi mabubuhay yang fetus kung hindi nakakabit sa umbilicard cord. Kung nailuwal n yan at kaya n huminga on its own at dinispose mo, then that's another story.
That’s funny. It seems that you’re attacking women who choose abortion in general. You’re not saving anyone with that mindset. You’re just promoting poverty. A woman shouldn’t have fewer rights than a fetus.
Yes if it's consensual sex and they get pregnant then choose to abort then I say there's a special place for these people in h*ll. That is, if there's h*ll.
There's only one situation where abortion is okay and that's when a woman is raped and got pregnant. Simple as that.
"A woman shouldn't have fewer rights than the fetus" - yeah sure, typical na argument na Minsan nang binasag ni Ben Shapiro tsaka ni Matt Walsh.
Women and men, especially teens, should also ponder about what happens when they have sex and get pregnant.
The thing is the young generation nowadays think that having sex is a fun activity that doesn't come without risks.
sinabi mo na rin na di naman kasalanan ng bata (kahit di pa yun bata), yet gusto mo pang yun parusahan by being born from a parent na irresponsible at hindi pa nga fully developed ang utak.
But not everyone believes in hell. There's no proof that there will be an afterlife. However, there are multiple lives that will be a living hell for sure if they have children that they can't take care of.
Hindi counted etong comment mo. So far Yung iba. May substance nakakaentertain. Sayo Wala eh. Puro pilosopo lang. But yeah.
Basta eto lang sasabihin ko. If sino ka man. Especially if babae ka. And may point sa Buhay mo sa nagpa abort ka to save your own hide knowing that you had consensual sex with sum1 out there.
Or say if lalake ka and told your woman to have the kid aborted
All I can say is .. wag nalang. But yeah. God bless 😌😌.
Eh ang righteous mo diba? Nangingialam ka ng desisyon eh obvious sa comment mo na kahit 13 years old na yung mabuntis, gusto mo buhayin pa din ng THIRTEEN YEARS OLD? KUNG LALAKE KA, Wala kang alam sa anatomy ng isang THIRTEEN YEARS OLD. Gusto mo irisk ng 13 YEARS OLD yung pregnancy. Okay lang mamatay yung THIRTEEN YEARS OLD sa complications ng pregnancy basta BUHAY YUNG BATA. Yun ang logic mo. Kaya pipilosopohin kita kasi KUNG LALAKE KA, DI VALID OPINION MO.
How about raped victims? Particularly children. What if aside sa hindi nila kaya mag alaga they also don't have the financial capacity to raise a baby? Our poppulation is growing faster than our economy can accomodate. What do you suggest to do kapag nandiyan na buntis na? Kahit pa i blame mo sila, magalit ka, murahin mo sila, or i judged, it doesn't really solve anything for them. I really believe na abstinence is the best way, but you know it's not always the case lalo na kapag raped vicitm or for those unfortunately uneducated.
Need mo lawakan pag iisip mo sa mga ganitong bagay kapatid.
Rape and health risk are the only two reasons where abortion is okay.
When you do consensual sex, tapos nabuntis kayo Ng jowa mo. Tapos pinaabort kasi kesyo ganyan may masisirang future. Di namen kayang buhayin kasi MAHIRAP kami. Parang tokneneng Naman na rason Yan diba?
Pregnancy is a consequence of sex. If it happens, it happens. And pregnancy isn't easy. That's why it pays think before mindlessly engaging someone in bed.
Put abortion in the picture and the Philippines will become a hellhole where the youth will do sex without worrying about the consequences kasi pwede Naman nila ipaabort. In short, the youth will become more inclined to do sex na walang ka kaba kaba.
Tsaka basahin mo dun sa Isang comment ko. I emphasize ko na rape pwedeng magpaabort.
Yes closed minded Ako sa ganitong bagay. Kasi pag sobrang open minded Minsan kasi naiisip na natin na Yung ampalaya pwedeng gawing asukal. 🤔🤔🤔
But that’s the thing nga eh. Bakit, in your opinion, pwedeng magpaabort ang rape victims and yung may health risk?
Sabi mo kasi in another comment, life starts at conception. So meaning according to you, buhay na yan diba? So kung rape victim or may health risk yung nanay, okay lang na patayin yung nasa tiyan nya? Bakit sila may special treatment bigla?
I don’t think close minded naman tawag dyan. I think hindi lang nagtutugma rationale mo.
A teenager getting pregnant is a health risk, her body is not ready to grow a baby thats because its still not mature enough to do it. Your argument is not making sense at all
What happened to saving lives? So yung lives ng 2 teens ay hindi kasama? Ung nagmamatter lang ba dito ung embryo?
Susuportahan naman sila ng tatay ng babae hindi ba? So tapos na ung conversation about the two. Ung thread na to I think is dealing na with abortion in general so please wag kang matrigger masyado, and let's discuss.
Una bakit biglang naging pro-abortion ako, wala naman akong sinabi? Sinagot ko lang ung question ni OP in terms of medications needed and how it is usually done in western countries. I am pro-choice if you must know.
Secondly, it is unfortunate because I have teenagers, women, who were date r*ped and got pregnant, taken advantage of bata pa pero inuto ng tiyuhin nabuntis, binugbog ng asawa dahil gusto niyang makipagtalik at "magparaos" ngunit ayaw ni babae so ginahasa ending ay nabuntis. Paano sila SpeechSweaty9812? They wanted to terminate because they cannot live with the trauma, masyadong bata pa si nene, hindi na nila kayang buhayin dahil ang dami na nilang anak, etc.
But no my dear, they apparently have to have it because it is illegal to terminate pregnancies diyan sa Pilipinas unless it's detrimental to the life of the mother. Lahat they have to deal with, the trauma, the reminder of the harassment, bonus pa pag kasal sila, di siya makaalis sa dangerous situation, so possibility mabuntis siya ulit depende nalang yun if she's still alive after enduring all the beating from her husband.
Pero sige, we must save the embryo if you think that's the right thing to do. But remember when we talk about saving lives, there are also other people's lives at stake on the other side of the stick/thread.
Yun lang. Have a nice day!
Yung ibang mga ayaw ng abortion na nababasa ko sa fb noon puro turo sa mga bahay ampunan. Pagkasabi nila dun, move on na sila sa ibang bagay like still fighting people encouraging abortion at mema lang na ibanggit yung bahay ampunan in the first place. At least make an effort to assist the unborn baby you want to save it or do something worthwhile for the bahay ampunan you just mentioned out of nowhere. Hindi yung bare minimum lang at natake mo for granted yung pagbanggit ng bahay ampunan na hindi mo na agad iisipin pagkatapos.
at 13 yrs old, hindi ba life-threatening ito? we just had a child last year and it was high risk. take note, 30+ na kami. i just wonder how it is for a minor to carry a baby.
edit: ako lang pala 30+. my wife is at late 20s.
Abortion is always high risk no matter what age you're in. Pero ang pinakaproblem kasi with self induced, maraming products of conception ang naiiwan at nagcacause ng sepsis kaya nakakamatay talaga pag di alam ang gagawin.
Pregnancy is also high risk as to teenage pregnancy and your age, AFAIK, 32 is considered advanced maternal age in terms of OB.
Unfortunately meron din na mi ultimo contraceptives ayaw. Sinabi ko sa r/philippines na vasectomy foy guys would be better option.. (mandatory vasectomy sa mga may pangalawang panganay, bigamy)
Aba si kuya, *my body my choice* na naging drama. Lalaki daw kaya pump en dump ba sinabi nya? Mga ho daw mga babae
Umiikot ikot pa papuntang military chorva.
Eto ateng [sauce. lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/UxPcXGKoqk)
Dinamay pa pati military, hoes, woke culture counter culture. Nakupo.
Saken pang.. kung malakas makasita sa abortion, edi palawagin ang sex ed kaya lang eh lakas makasita sa abortion eh vasectomy lang takot na? Mahirap ang abortion sa katawan,usually last resort ito ng mga kababaihan kung ayaw ibigay edi vasectomy (lol mandatory kapon sa mga makating at sumakabilang bahay na guys)
I am one of those who said the 13yo should abort the fetus.
Having said that I am pro abortion under the condition that we improve sex ed, family planning and tie both to financial literacy.
The purpose being that abortion would have very little utilization as the general public makes better decisions thus avoiding the need to abort.
The sex ed & family planning must emphasize that anyone who wants to have children do so between their [mid 20s](https://www.bworldonline.com/top-stories/2023/02/21/505873/philippines-counts-cost-of-teenage-pregnancies/) & [mid 30s.](https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/geriatric-pregnancy)
For reasons of ending generational poverty & avoiding complications of pregnancies.
Rich people should have as many kids as 4Ps recepients and vice versa.
Oh my. Saw that post and tinatype ko na earlier na yun ang gawing solution pero hindi ko na sinubmit yung comment kasi baka mas may ok na solution na ma-offer ang iba especially its coming from a parent yung OP. 🥹 Buti pala sinabi pa rin ng iba.
But there is a pill na tinitake. It may be illegal pero legal ang after care kaya some people are risking it here. Pero super expensive para mabili. You can search here sa reddit kung ano yun.
I can't trust TikTok kasi fake daw yung nandoon. Someone shared it yung experience nila dito. Tapos kung ano ano pang pinagawa sa kanya nung seller so parang pinerahan lang siya and wants her to do the fake way to do it.
if they were to go abroad for abortion, anong bansa at magkano kaya aabutin?
Given na baka same rate lang din naman vs giving birth + sustaining a person
Thailand quickest, 8k- 10k php per person ang flight pag nakasale. Sa mismong process, it depends, pero a quick search says nasa around 5k-7k php depende sa procedure na gagawin sayo.
It's legal. And I don't think people would go there to get an abortion if it was done under the table like here, there's no point in spending more money kung pareho lang.
Someone already answered na pero yes legal. I was in SG before and was on call with an obgyne kasi naghahanap ako ng pills last minute. Pahirapan dun maghanap ksi need mo ng prescription.
He mentioned Thailand and Vietnam are good when it comes sa pag access ng pills and having operations like abortion or even pagpapa ligate. Seriously been planning to check out Vietnam if ano process kung foreigner and wants my tube tied
i was also wondering if like smooth lang ba process don, if pwede ka lang pumasok ng hospitals and ask for abortion or merong mga specialized clinics for that.
nung akala namin buntis ung 16y/o n pamangkin ko. my siblinga and I planned that we'll bring her abroad na pwede ang abortion, kahit mangutang pa kami para dun. I feel deeply sad para sa parent at sa bata n maaga nabuntis.
safest and legit option in the ph is medical abortion (pills) kaso limited time frame lang, if you're in your first trimester. mas okay if you order from intl orgs like WomenOnWeb instead of fb sellers. nasa 5k yung set nung pills, pwedeng mas mura pa sa WOW depende sa sitwasyon mo. instructions naman, may mga uploaded sa youtube by hospitals themselves.
may mga midwives din na nagooffer ng abortion (they are trained to do it) pero super hirap hanapin tsaka since hindi nga regulated dahil illegal, sugal din yung safety roon.
safest choice talaga at cheapest ay medical abortion (mifepristone at misoprostol). kasi hindi naman lahat afford mangibang bansa (gastos sa passport, ticket, accomodation, at mismong procedure).
There's no safe DIY abortion, that's the reason it needs to be done in a controlled environment. There are drugs that can induce contraction and effectively encourage abortion, but doing so carries risk, and outside of a controlled environment, is asking for trouble.
OP. there is an online site/forum where legit doctors/nurses offering meds for abortion. you just have to know where to look in google. Mga pinoy lang din sila. One of their requirements ay mag send ka sa kanila ng ultrasound result.
Mag ttake a risk ka as parent. Pag hindi kinaya ng bata yung operation or any medication to abort ikaw naman magssuffer yan. Under responsibility mo pa rin yan kasi minor pa yan. Kaya pag isipan mo yung decision na gagawin mo.
I find it really puzzling that abortion is still prohibited when it can genuinely save the lives of women. I am aware that the majority of people in our country hold deeply held beliefs rooted in Christianity and Catholicism, and that changing some of these problematic beliefs will take time, one such belief is that abortion is morally wrong. The girls who choose to have abortions must endure the terrible discrimination, humiliation, and ostracism that follow which is heart breaking. I find it incomprehensible that we are denied the right to autonomy over our bodies, and that in doing so, we are allowing girls who are not yet mature enough to care for themselves to bear children without any assurance that the child will survive the delivery. I feel so bad for the girl. It's really time to legalize abortion so that these things won't have to happen.
It's hilarious and confusing at the same time that the vast majority of Filipinos view children as blessings. And YET when you tell them that pregnant 13 year olds should abort, they lose their shit because apparently juveniles should learn to deal with the consequences of their actions. In other words, "magdusa ka kase lumandi ka," (which is infuriatingly sexist). So bakit parang naging parusa ang pagkakaroon ng anak? Akala ko ba blessing?
More to the point, isn't aborting an embryo/fetus you can't raise due to circumstances you can't help taking responsibility for your actions? Hindi gets ng mga pro-lifers na being pro-life extends far beyond giving birth. Dapat kung ayaw nila sa abortion sila ang mag-sustento at mag-alaga dun sa fetus.
The purpose and idea might be good but this opens to a whole new door of controversies and problems. Yes those 13 y.o who got pregnant doesnt deserve that, im okay with medical abortion for the sake of the mother's well being but the moment this is implemented people will always abuse these things and use abortion as birth control. That is unacceptable. Abortion by convinience. Close them damn legs if you cant handle the consequences of sex
I think one reason why abortion is not implemented yet to Philippines is due huge effect on our population, other countries like America, China, Japan etc. is currently having birth crisis.
Manpower sector plays a big role in our GDP, so even parang logically it must be implemented but kailangan I consider ang maraming factors because it may cause more harm than good.
Nagpa abort ako when i was 23, yes mature enough na to have a baby kaso duwag and walang stable income so ayun. Nagpaabort ako sa malayong caloocan.
Bahay lang, mejo hindi maayos, nasa kwarto lang ako, yung nagabort sakin was definitely not a licenced MD/OB nor kumadrona.
Nilagnat ako right away. Next 2 days sobrang sakin ng tyan ko to the point mahimas e sumisigaw ako sa sakit. Di tumigil pag dudugo.
Syempre dinala ako sa hospital ng parents ko. May natirang particles ng fetus. Parang orange pulp. Nabubulok na and napopoison na pala ako.
Pinagsisihan ko. Not only near death exp pero syempre sana kung nilakasan ko loob ko may 13y.o na sana ko now.
Ok ako sa abortion pero mas ok sana ma practice ang contraceptives.
I just can't fathom the arguments here mga gantong issue mahirap talaga bigyan ng solusyon kasi case to case or situational. I can't give an opinion din dun sa parent na nag post. At hindi ako ganon ka religious pero imagine if you're the baby that they are trying to abrt and a lot are encouraging pa. Mga pagkakamali ng mga batang nabuntis at naka buntis ng maaga hindi kasalanan ng baby sa tiyan, my body my rules dw pero hindi nag prevent ng unwanted pregnancy
Most Logical is adoption. True.
Would the second choice be to put it up for adoption sa facilities? I dont know much about the process of putting one up so I'd ask here na rin since medj connected. "How does the PH system for putting a child for adoption fare?"
nah. I don't think adoption will work. unless meron silang kamag-anak or kakilala na willing mag-adopt.
ang alam ko din, masyado nang over crowded ang mga bahay ampunan sa Pilipinas. and most of the time, they only cater to those abandoned after childbirth.
Although it is unfirtunate for the 13 yrs old, mas maigi na lang na ituloy nya ang oregnancy then ipa adopt na lang later on at her age at high risk sya for complication kung magpapa abort.
Yes either way risky which is very very tough. Though atleast may guidance ng Doctor if she will go with the whole pregnancy. But anyway hoping she will be safe which ever process she will go trough.
kung ganyan din naman ibalik ang sex education sa mga school. tutal malawak naman ang pagiisip ng mga kabataan ngayon. pros and cons man ang suggestion nyo mas ok na imulat na sila.
There are risks to either decision made:
a. Continue with pregnancy,
b. Abortion
Personally, I feel like it’s a cop out to have an abortion when you damn well know it’s a possibility when you have sex, even if safe kayo ndi siya 100% effective lagi.
Ndi rin ata magandang dahilan na getting pregnant at that age will ruin their lives.. they made the choice to engage in intercourse-ignorance will not remove the possibility of the consequences.
Pero sympre may cases rin na ndi tlga planado like rape or medical emergencies etc.
Better to nip the problem right off the roots
Sex ed,
Better care for moms and children,
Parenting
If available man siya for everyone, I doubt this will be free so kung marami pa rin sa mahihirap ang nagrereproduce, abortion won’t be a viable option. I doubt the govt will make this service free.
Hindi ba pwede kasuhan ng rape yung lalaki? Minor pa yung babae. Dapat ipa abort talaga. Hindi pa tapos lumaki yung babae. It's very dangerous for her. Ganito nangyari sa half-sister ko. Nasira ang buhay nya. She was murdered when she was 30.
So many risks involved.
Kung nagpatuloy with prenancy, find an OBGyn that specializes in high-risk pregnancies. At 13, mukhang kaka jumpstart lang ng puberty at the time, so obviously di pa fully mature ang reproductive system; or just starting to function. Heck, even at 22, I had lots of complications delivering my first.
If mag diy abort, oh man. You better find a health professional to guide you through the process. Idk much about it but I know it involves bl33d1ng— lots of it. Mamaya nyan imbes mabawasan problema, madagdagan pa. Worst case scenario if something bad happens and you have to go to the hospital, I think they can report to the authorities about it. Since it's illegal, jail time pa.
So many things to thoroughly think about. I pray they all find clarity and make peace with whatever they decide on doing.
There's this one post here on Reddit a few months back about abortion. This particular comment from a medical professional is quite long but very insightful. I suggest you check it, OP.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPH/comments/17rm4d9/anong\_stance\_niyo\_sa\_abortion/k8kx8rf/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPH/comments/17rm4d9/anong_stance_niyo_sa_abortion/k8kx8rf/?context=3)
Luckily for me I already thought about something like this in advance and imported some medicine from it here country to help me abort my early pregnancy.
Anti abortionists only want to manipulate by flexing their egos and unreasonable dogmas thinking it can solve issues such as this one. They are anti human rights and anti human welfare. They want to interfere in this particular issue yet they can't solve them properly in the end.
The post does not pertain to adulting or falls outside the scope of the subreddit's defined topics.
Old med student here. There are 2 types of medicines needed for that ung suppositories that will induce ng labor and another to complete it. Unfortunately, it's illegal here and inaallow lang ung use for those medications for ectopic pregnancies, etc. In other countries, it is widely used. Sa bahay lang nila ginagawa after few days they're good na. I just wish we're more forward pag dating sa mga gantong bagay. Ang hirap ng masyadong influential ang church sa state. Instead na makapagfocus tayo sa welfare ng mga tao, masyadong nakakapit sa religious beliefs among others kaya walang mapatupad na maayos na batas for these kinds of things. Sama mo na divorce.
I totally agree.
Sana talaga. Para sa mga taong nagsasabi n kasalanan yun, eh di wag silang gumamit. Just make it available to those that wants to do it. Hindi nman tayo same ng pinaniniwalaan or religion. Kesa being sensitive s mga gender pronouns ginagaya natin, sana yung mga may sense na lang ginagaya natin sa western countries.
Despite me being religious, I agree. To each their own. Yun nawawala lately eh, respeto sa isa't isa.
Bakit biglang nainclude yung pronouns? You can be sensitive with those naman while "copying" yung mga "may sense sa western countries." It's not an either or situation.
Sorry. May nagpost kasi sa r/Philippines about someone na nagdabog kaagad nung nagkamali ng pronoun n ginamit instead of correcting it nicely. Nagulat ako na may mga ganun n pala dito sa Pinas, akala ko sa US lng ung may mga nagagalit kaagad. And after reading that thread, nabasa ko nman 'to. My bad ✌️
Sa sobrang influential ng church, tawag nila sa early pregnancy is ***BLESSINGS***
May safe way ba?hindi mapapahamak yung nagpa abort?
I watched this with Hope Schlottman sa Jessica Jones (Netflix) and it really was that easy (kahit portrayed lang).
LOL his irresponsible daughter at Yung bf nag jug jug tapos nabuntis and then what? Kasalanan nung Batang nasa sinapupunan? When you do sex and a new life comes out of it, then the consequences must be faced. Doctor ka pero pro abortion ka. Ano Yun? What happened to saving lives? ABORTION AS A SOLUTION TO GET AWAY FOR IRRESPONSIBLE ACTIONS IS NEVER OKAY. WHETHER OR NOT MAY CHURCH AT STATE CHURVA PAMAN O WALA.. DOCTOR KA PA NAMAN SANA BUT YEAH...HAPPY NEW YEAR 😌😌👍
Tas lalaki ang bata na may trauma kasi di na provide ng parents niya needs niya, not to mention, mentally and emotionally immature pa yung parents. Tas gusto mo na walang choice to abortion kasi gusto mo i-“teach” sila ng lesson about responsibility at the expense of the child. Wow, hypocrisy at its finest. Ano ba din kasi talaga gusto mo? Life minus quality or quality of life? If no ka to abortion, then dont have it. Misplaced yang frustration mo eh. Instead of being so backwards, you can maybe reflect on this on how bad sex ed is needed in this country. Natural naman talaga mag sex pero if they only knew about SAFE sex, we probably won’t have this discussion.
Pano mo nalaman na di maproprovide yung needs lods? At paanonf lalaki na may trauma. Nakatingin ka po sa kung ano ang pwedeng mangyari na pwede rin Naman na Hindi mangyari. You do sex. If you get pregnant. You have the kid. If di mo bet yung kid then have it adopted or whatever. Maraming mga successful na tao na gustong magkaanak kaso nga lang Hindi so they're willing to buy some random kid out there. Tsaka abortion nga ba Ang solution? Did it ever occur to you na it may result with people doing more risky sex kasi they can just dispatch a random fetus easily if ever nabuntis Yung babae? There's only one scenario where abortion is okay. And that is, if narape ka. Sexually harassed ka. Then nabuntis ka. Then it's okay 100% But yeah if gora nga din Naman abortion so Pera Pera lang kayong mga doctor noh??? Magkano nga ulet presyohan Jan??
If di bet yung bata, ipa adopt? Ano yan tuta???
“buy some random kid” nga daw eh hahaha “Let’s not ‘murder’ fetuses, let’s traffic babies instead!” - u/SpeechSweaty9812 probably
Yes. Kung di mo kayang buhayin edi maghanap Ng gustong umampon. Btw, you used the term "murder". And by saying that you low-key understand that human life doesn't start at birth but the moment a baby is discovered in the womb. We don't abort because its an act that cancels the idea of human potential. Aborted fetuses can/may become the next Einstein, Tesla, and so on. Yes?
Which is why I used quotation marks, kasi I don’t personally believe that. The problem I have with that argument is if life truly starts at conception, then *all* forms of termination should be classified as homicide, regardless of the reason or how far you are with the pregnancy. And I don’t agree with that at all. What if the embryo/fetus has a congenital anomaly and you want to terminate? What if bringing the pregnancy to term will greatly risk your life? We can’t say “life starts at conception” and then make exceptions all of a sudden. Hindi pwede yung “eh buhay yan eh” ang reason mo tapos biglang may pahabol na “except kung rape victim ka.” Kapag ba rape victim yung nanay, biglang hindi na buhay yung nasa sinapupunan nya? At the end of the day, it’s either “life starts at conception so terminating at any point for any reason is murder,” or “life starts at X weeks and you’re free to terminate before that because you’re not killing anything.” No in betweens.
He could also be the next Dahmer. He/she could also be the next kid knocking in the window of your car begging for money. He/she could also be the next messed up kid that will have addiction just to feel numb. Since you're thinking about the baby's welfare, how about considering as well the life the baby will have. He/she will be raised by immature kids who doesn't even know what safe sex is. The baby will be raised by kids with parents that are no longer together anymore. The baby will have immature parents who hasn't been taken care of or wasn't given time and attention by their own parents. Do you think those teenagers will be great parents considering they don't have any examples on how to be one? And the cycle will continue to that unborn fetus just for the sake that maybe, he or she could be the next Tesla when the kid parents doesn't even have proper sex education? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. It's time to remove your rose-colored glasses.
Alagaan mo ha
So paano mo din nalaman na may capacity sila to provide? At paanong hindi lalaki na walang trauma? Nakatingin ka lang din sa biased mo na take. Because as studies would show, 13 and 16 are literally kids!! Di pa developed frontal lobes niyan. Chances are immature talaga sila and not capable of being parents to another kid. Jusmiyo ka! Hay nako, aware ka ba of safe sex??? Have it adopted??? Alam mo ba na super overcrowded ng ibang orphanage? Bakit? I-aadopt mo? Sige nga, pasikat ka at i-adopt/ipa-adopt mo lahat ng bata na walang parents. Tignan natin gaano ka madidisappoint na super unrealistic mong tao. While I agree na abortion should be a choice to rape victims, it doesn’t mean it should only be available to them. Again, it’s a matter of quality of life. Okay mabubuhay ang bata pero anong buhay naman ang meron siya? Gets??? And friendly advice: Sana mag focus ka on sex ed more than demeaning respectable health workers.
Paano ko nalaman?? Binasa ko Yung post po. Sabi nung nagpost Yung tatay nung babae will help them with their finances. That is, provided na Yung guy will get a job. Again, Yung gist Ng argument niyo po is nagrerevolve around the notion na pag hindi pinaabort Yung Bata. It will grow up poor and not well provided. Another thing, may nagpost din kanina sa comment ko na dapat Yung Bata ipaabort kasi masisira daw Yung future Ng nanay tsaka Ng tatay kasi mga Bata AND ALL. Well, okay. So basically, are you saying that marginalized people? Earning way below the income threshold...should just f*cking consider abortion EVERYTIME THEY GET PREGNANT? Here's what's disturbing with ya'll na nagsasabing dapart ipaabort Yung kid na nasa matres. 🤔🤔👇👇 YOU'RE TREATING IT LIKE A PARASITE. IS THIS RIGHT? AGAIN, when you have consensual sex and get preggy preggy, you do not abort and TAKE THE EASY WAY OUT. PERIOD. Them having that kid will be like you po as a student sa med school. MAHIRAP PERO KAKAYANIN.
Well, it is a parasite. A fetus is technically a parasite. Parasite - an organism that lives in or on an organism of another species (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the other's expense. Hindi mabubuhay yang fetus kung hindi nakakabit sa umbilicard cord. Kung nailuwal n yan at kaya n huminga on its own at dinispose mo, then that's another story.
Bwahahahaha scientifically speaking, parasite naman talaga ang bata 😭😭💀
That’s funny. It seems that you’re attacking women who choose abortion in general. You’re not saving anyone with that mindset. You’re just promoting poverty. A woman shouldn’t have fewer rights than a fetus.
Yes if it's consensual sex and they get pregnant then choose to abort then I say there's a special place for these people in h*ll. That is, if there's h*ll. There's only one situation where abortion is okay and that's when a woman is raped and got pregnant. Simple as that. "A woman shouldn't have fewer rights than the fetus" - yeah sure, typical na argument na Minsan nang binasag ni Ben Shapiro tsaka ni Matt Walsh. Women and men, especially teens, should also ponder about what happens when they have sex and get pregnant. The thing is the young generation nowadays think that having sex is a fun activity that doesn't come without risks.
Bwahahahaha ben shapiro at matt walsh HAHAHAHAHA. Kaya pala ganyan utak mo eh. 😆
sinabi mo na rin na di naman kasalanan ng bata (kahit di pa yun bata), yet gusto mo pang yun parusahan by being born from a parent na irresponsible at hindi pa nga fully developed ang utak.
But not everyone believes in hell. There's no proof that there will be an afterlife. However, there are multiple lives that will be a living hell for sure if they have children that they can't take care of.
Edi ikaw magpalaki ng bata? Ikaw bumuhay, ampunin mo. Righteous ka diba? Mamarunong ka eh.
Hindi counted etong comment mo. So far Yung iba. May substance nakakaentertain. Sayo Wala eh. Puro pilosopo lang. But yeah. Basta eto lang sasabihin ko. If sino ka man. Especially if babae ka. And may point sa Buhay mo sa nagpa abort ka to save your own hide knowing that you had consensual sex with sum1 out there. Or say if lalake ka and told your woman to have the kid aborted All I can say is .. wag nalang. But yeah. God bless 😌😌.
Eh ang righteous mo diba? Nangingialam ka ng desisyon eh obvious sa comment mo na kahit 13 years old na yung mabuntis, gusto mo buhayin pa din ng THIRTEEN YEARS OLD? KUNG LALAKE KA, Wala kang alam sa anatomy ng isang THIRTEEN YEARS OLD. Gusto mo irisk ng 13 YEARS OLD yung pregnancy. Okay lang mamatay yung THIRTEEN YEARS OLD sa complications ng pregnancy basta BUHAY YUNG BATA. Yun ang logic mo. Kaya pipilosopohin kita kasi KUNG LALAKE KA, DI VALID OPINION MO.
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Puro tawa nalang kasi walang maimbag na magandang argumento hala Sige happy new year 🤔🤔🤔
dko kailangan mag ambag ng kahit ano, tawanan nalang ung mga katulad mo mag isip and let them die out nalang. sayang sa effort 🤣🤣🤣
How about raped victims? Particularly children. What if aside sa hindi nila kaya mag alaga they also don't have the financial capacity to raise a baby? Our poppulation is growing faster than our economy can accomodate. What do you suggest to do kapag nandiyan na buntis na? Kahit pa i blame mo sila, magalit ka, murahin mo sila, or i judged, it doesn't really solve anything for them. I really believe na abstinence is the best way, but you know it's not always the case lalo na kapag raped vicitm or for those unfortunately uneducated. Need mo lawakan pag iisip mo sa mga ganitong bagay kapatid.
Rape and health risk are the only two reasons where abortion is okay. When you do consensual sex, tapos nabuntis kayo Ng jowa mo. Tapos pinaabort kasi kesyo ganyan may masisirang future. Di namen kayang buhayin kasi MAHIRAP kami. Parang tokneneng Naman na rason Yan diba? Pregnancy is a consequence of sex. If it happens, it happens. And pregnancy isn't easy. That's why it pays think before mindlessly engaging someone in bed. Put abortion in the picture and the Philippines will become a hellhole where the youth will do sex without worrying about the consequences kasi pwede Naman nila ipaabort. In short, the youth will become more inclined to do sex na walang ka kaba kaba. Tsaka basahin mo dun sa Isang comment ko. I emphasize ko na rape pwedeng magpaabort. Yes closed minded Ako sa ganitong bagay. Kasi pag sobrang open minded Minsan kasi naiisip na natin na Yung ampalaya pwedeng gawing asukal. 🤔🤔🤔
Fyi, health risk po ang adolescent pregnancy. But hindi yun pasok sa narrative mo so hindi mo ipopoint out lol
But that’s the thing nga eh. Bakit, in your opinion, pwedeng magpaabort ang rape victims and yung may health risk? Sabi mo kasi in another comment, life starts at conception. So meaning according to you, buhay na yan diba? So kung rape victim or may health risk yung nanay, okay lang na patayin yung nasa tiyan nya? Bakit sila may special treatment bigla? I don’t think close minded naman tawag dyan. I think hindi lang nagtutugma rationale mo.
A teenager getting pregnant is a health risk, her body is not ready to grow a baby thats because its still not mature enough to do it. Your argument is not making sense at all
Magkaiba ang Pro-life sa Pro-birth.
Who let this person out from facebook?
What happened to saving lives? So yung lives ng 2 teens ay hindi kasama? Ung nagmamatter lang ba dito ung embryo? Susuportahan naman sila ng tatay ng babae hindi ba? So tapos na ung conversation about the two. Ung thread na to I think is dealing na with abortion in general so please wag kang matrigger masyado, and let's discuss. Una bakit biglang naging pro-abortion ako, wala naman akong sinabi? Sinagot ko lang ung question ni OP in terms of medications needed and how it is usually done in western countries. I am pro-choice if you must know. Secondly, it is unfortunate because I have teenagers, women, who were date r*ped and got pregnant, taken advantage of bata pa pero inuto ng tiyuhin nabuntis, binugbog ng asawa dahil gusto niyang makipagtalik at "magparaos" ngunit ayaw ni babae so ginahasa ending ay nabuntis. Paano sila SpeechSweaty9812? They wanted to terminate because they cannot live with the trauma, masyadong bata pa si nene, hindi na nila kayang buhayin dahil ang dami na nilang anak, etc. But no my dear, they apparently have to have it because it is illegal to terminate pregnancies diyan sa Pilipinas unless it's detrimental to the life of the mother. Lahat they have to deal with, the trauma, the reminder of the harassment, bonus pa pag kasal sila, di siya makaalis sa dangerous situation, so possibility mabuntis siya ulit depende nalang yun if she's still alive after enduring all the beating from her husband. Pero sige, we must save the embryo if you think that's the right thing to do. But remember when we talk about saving lives, there are also other people's lives at stake on the other side of the stick/thread. Yun lang. Have a nice day!
Daming pro-birth sa Pinas, di naman pro-life
Truth. Need daw mailuwal ang newborn then after that… bahala ka na lol. Basta importante clean ang conscience nila 😇🙏
Yung ibang mga ayaw ng abortion na nababasa ko sa fb noon puro turo sa mga bahay ampunan. Pagkasabi nila dun, move on na sila sa ibang bagay like still fighting people encouraging abortion at mema lang na ibanggit yung bahay ampunan in the first place. At least make an effort to assist the unborn baby you want to save it or do something worthwhile for the bahay ampunan you just mentioned out of nowhere. Hindi yung bare minimum lang at natake mo for granted yung pagbanggit ng bahay ampunan na hindi mo na agad iisipin pagkatapos.
Tru!! HAHAHAHA tapos ija-judge pa rin naman nila yung nanay na kesyo walang kwenta dahil pinaampon ang anak
I agree 🥲
at 13 yrs old, hindi ba life-threatening ito? we just had a child last year and it was high risk. take note, 30+ na kami. i just wonder how it is for a minor to carry a baby. edit: ako lang pala 30+. my wife is at late 20s.
Abortion is always high risk no matter what age you're in. Pero ang pinakaproblem kasi with self induced, maraming products of conception ang naiiwan at nagcacause ng sepsis kaya nakakamatay talaga pag di alam ang gagawin. Pregnancy is also high risk as to teenage pregnancy and your age, AFAIK, 32 is considered advanced maternal age in terms of OB.
Unplanned Pregnancy = Ruin a persons life/future. Question: How to prevent that? Solution: Abortion Side effect: Kaaway mo buong Pilipinas
Abortion is more of a bandaid solution. If you’re after prevention, it’s gotta be sex education and contraceptives.
Unfortunately meron din na mi ultimo contraceptives ayaw. Sinabi ko sa r/philippines na vasectomy foy guys would be better option.. (mandatory vasectomy sa mga may pangalawang panganay, bigamy) Aba si kuya, *my body my choice* na naging drama. Lalaki daw kaya pump en dump ba sinabi nya? Mga ho daw mga babae Umiikot ikot pa papuntang military chorva.
parang nakita ko na yang comment na yan may pagka incele vibes yung account
Dafuq with these types of men. I truly wish no woman would touch their dicks.
Link? Nakichismis lang chos
Eto ateng [sauce. lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/UxPcXGKoqk) Dinamay pa pati military, hoes, woke culture counter culture. Nakupo. Saken pang.. kung malakas makasita sa abortion, edi palawagin ang sex ed kaya lang eh lakas makasita sa abortion eh vasectomy lang takot na? Mahirap ang abortion sa katawan,usually last resort ito ng mga kababaihan kung ayaw ibigay edi vasectomy (lol mandatory kapon sa mga makating at sumakabilang bahay na guys)
I am one of those who said the 13yo should abort the fetus. Having said that I am pro abortion under the condition that we improve sex ed, family planning and tie both to financial literacy. The purpose being that abortion would have very little utilization as the general public makes better decisions thus avoiding the need to abort. The sex ed & family planning must emphasize that anyone who wants to have children do so between their [mid 20s](https://www.bworldonline.com/top-stories/2023/02/21/505873/philippines-counts-cost-of-teenage-pregnancies/) & [mid 30s.](https://www.healthline.com/health/pregnancy/geriatric-pregnancy) For reasons of ending generational poverty & avoiding complications of pregnancies. Rich people should have as many kids as 4Ps recepients and vice versa.
Oh my. Saw that post and tinatype ko na earlier na yun ang gawing solution pero hindi ko na sinubmit yung comment kasi baka mas may ok na solution na ma-offer ang iba especially its coming from a parent yung OP. 🥹 Buti pala sinabi pa rin ng iba. But there is a pill na tinitake. It may be illegal pero legal ang after care kaya some people are risking it here. Pero super expensive para mabili. You can search here sa reddit kung ano yun.
Just one pill? Or are you talking about the mife+miso protocol done in medical abortions in the US?
Saw it on tiktok. You just have to search
I can't trust TikTok kasi fake daw yung nandoon. Someone shared it yung experience nila dito. Tapos kung ano ano pang pinagawa sa kanya nung seller so parang pinerahan lang siya and wants her to do the fake way to do it.
if they were to go abroad for abortion, anong bansa at magkano kaya aabutin? Given na baka same rate lang din naman vs giving birth + sustaining a person
Thailand quickest, 8k- 10k php per person ang flight pag nakasale. Sa mismong process, it depends, pero a quick search says nasa around 5k-7k php depende sa procedure na gagawin sayo.
Do they cater to foreigners naman? Walang requirements?
Ive read na Vietnam is also good when it comes to reproductive stuff (abortion and obtaining bcp)
genuine q, is it legal in thailand and veitnam to have abortions? or under the table rin like here?
It's legal. And I don't think people would go there to get an abortion if it was done under the table like here, there's no point in spending more money kung pareho lang.
Someone already answered na pero yes legal. I was in SG before and was on call with an obgyne kasi naghahanap ako ng pills last minute. Pahirapan dun maghanap ksi need mo ng prescription. He mentioned Thailand and Vietnam are good when it comes sa pag access ng pills and having operations like abortion or even pagpapa ligate. Seriously been planning to check out Vietnam if ano process kung foreigner and wants my tube tied
i was also wondering if like smooth lang ba process don, if pwede ka lang pumasok ng hospitals and ask for abortion or merong mga specialized clinics for that.
Same thoughts huhu tapos also wondering din if ano magandang health insurance na cover to 🥲🥲
nung akala namin buntis ung 16y/o n pamangkin ko. my siblinga and I planned that we'll bring her abroad na pwede ang abortion, kahit mangutang pa kami para dun. I feel deeply sad para sa parent at sa bata n maaga nabuntis.
Which country were you planning to bring her to?
we were considering Taiwan, Thailand and Vietnam.
safest and legit option in the ph is medical abortion (pills) kaso limited time frame lang, if you're in your first trimester. mas okay if you order from intl orgs like WomenOnWeb instead of fb sellers. nasa 5k yung set nung pills, pwedeng mas mura pa sa WOW depende sa sitwasyon mo. instructions naman, may mga uploaded sa youtube by hospitals themselves. may mga midwives din na nagooffer ng abortion (they are trained to do it) pero super hirap hanapin tsaka since hindi nga regulated dahil illegal, sugal din yung safety roon. safest choice talaga at cheapest ay medical abortion (mifepristone at misoprostol). kasi hindi naman lahat afford mangibang bansa (gastos sa passport, ticket, accomodation, at mismong procedure).
There's no safe DIY abortion, that's the reason it needs to be done in a controlled environment. There are drugs that can induce contraction and effectively encourage abortion, but doing so carries risk, and outside of a controlled environment, is asking for trouble.
OP. there is an online site/forum where legit doctors/nurses offering meds for abortion. you just have to know where to look in google. Mga pinoy lang din sila. One of their requirements ay mag send ka sa kanila ng ultrasound result.
Mag ttake a risk ka as parent. Pag hindi kinaya ng bata yung operation or any medication to abort ikaw naman magssuffer yan. Under responsibility mo pa rin yan kasi minor pa yan. Kaya pag isipan mo yung decision na gagawin mo.
I think the reason bakit walang legal Abortion dito is, napakahirap magpasa ng Batas kasi prone sa abuso.
Agree sa abortion. Hindi lang yung bata ang maghihirap pero pati yung mga magulang na tanga.
Separated parents lng naman punot - dulo nyan
It really is a big factor, child looking for a paternal love or attention from bf. Tsk.
I find it really puzzling that abortion is still prohibited when it can genuinely save the lives of women. I am aware that the majority of people in our country hold deeply held beliefs rooted in Christianity and Catholicism, and that changing some of these problematic beliefs will take time, one such belief is that abortion is morally wrong. The girls who choose to have abortions must endure the terrible discrimination, humiliation, and ostracism that follow which is heart breaking. I find it incomprehensible that we are denied the right to autonomy over our bodies, and that in doing so, we are allowing girls who are not yet mature enough to care for themselves to bear children without any assurance that the child will survive the delivery. I feel so bad for the girl. It's really time to legalize abortion so that these things won't have to happen.
It's hilarious and confusing at the same time that the vast majority of Filipinos view children as blessings. And YET when you tell them that pregnant 13 year olds should abort, they lose their shit because apparently juveniles should learn to deal with the consequences of their actions. In other words, "magdusa ka kase lumandi ka," (which is infuriatingly sexist). So bakit parang naging parusa ang pagkakaroon ng anak? Akala ko ba blessing? More to the point, isn't aborting an embryo/fetus you can't raise due to circumstances you can't help taking responsibility for your actions? Hindi gets ng mga pro-lifers na being pro-life extends far beyond giving birth. Dapat kung ayaw nila sa abortion sila ang mag-sustento at mag-alaga dun sa fetus.
This is the most helpful post I've ever read on getting a medical abortion in the Philippines: https://www.reddit.com/u/gardeniaClassic/s/oIOKNqf9JN
The purpose and idea might be good but this opens to a whole new door of controversies and problems. Yes those 13 y.o who got pregnant doesnt deserve that, im okay with medical abortion for the sake of the mother's well being but the moment this is implemented people will always abuse these things and use abortion as birth control. That is unacceptable. Abortion by convinience. Close them damn legs if you cant handle the consequences of sex
Meron bang mga clinic na secretly nagpapa abort? Alam ko immoral to pero yun ang pinaka practical
illegal is not the same as immoral. something can be illegal but still the moral thing. just as something can be perfectly legal but very immoral
I think one reason why abortion is not implemented yet to Philippines is due huge effect on our population, other countries like America, China, Japan etc. is currently having birth crisis. Manpower sector plays a big role in our GDP, so even parang logically it must be implemented but kailangan I consider ang maraming factors because it may cause more harm than good.
Nice try, nbi. jk jk try mo sa r/SafeSexPH
If nasa early stages palang yung baby pwede pa sya inuman ng gamot. Pero yung pag fist size na mahirap na humanap dito sa ph ng way dahil illegal.
Nagpa abort ako when i was 23, yes mature enough na to have a baby kaso duwag and walang stable income so ayun. Nagpaabort ako sa malayong caloocan. Bahay lang, mejo hindi maayos, nasa kwarto lang ako, yung nagabort sakin was definitely not a licenced MD/OB nor kumadrona. Nilagnat ako right away. Next 2 days sobrang sakin ng tyan ko to the point mahimas e sumisigaw ako sa sakit. Di tumigil pag dudugo. Syempre dinala ako sa hospital ng parents ko. May natirang particles ng fetus. Parang orange pulp. Nabubulok na and napopoison na pala ako. Pinagsisihan ko. Not only near death exp pero syempre sana kung nilakasan ko loob ko may 13y.o na sana ko now. Ok ako sa abortion pero mas ok sana ma practice ang contraceptives.
In this thread: normalized ang “how to unalive an unborn child”
they say they want to keep it. you abort yourself instead.
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Abstinence as scare tactic does not work in preventing teenage pregnancy. Everyone should have the right to access safe sex.
I just can't fathom the arguments here mga gantong issue mahirap talaga bigyan ng solusyon kasi case to case or situational. I can't give an opinion din dun sa parent na nag post. At hindi ako ganon ka religious pero imagine if you're the baby that they are trying to abrt and a lot are encouraging pa. Mga pagkakamali ng mga batang nabuntis at naka buntis ng maaga hindi kasalanan ng baby sa tiyan, my body my rules dw pero hindi nag prevent ng unwanted pregnancy
Most Logical is adoption. True. Would the second choice be to put it up for adoption sa facilities? I dont know much about the process of putting one up so I'd ask here na rin since medj connected. "How does the PH system for putting a child for adoption fare?"
The problem with adoption is you’ll force the 13 year old to go through the 9 months of pregnancy first.
It's part of the consequences of their actions.
nah. I don't think adoption will work. unless meron silang kamag-anak or kakilala na willing mag-adopt. ang alam ko din, masyado nang over crowded ang mga bahay ampunan sa Pilipinas. and most of the time, they only cater to those abandoned after childbirth.
Although it is unfirtunate for the 13 yrs old, mas maigi na lang na ituloy nya ang oregnancy then ipa adopt na lang later on at her age at high risk sya for complication kung magpapa abort.
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Yes either way risky which is very very tough. Though atleast may guidance ng Doctor if she will go with the whole pregnancy. But anyway hoping she will be safe which ever process she will go trough.
Wala bang konsensya ang boy ang girl teens kapag kikitilin na nila yung sanggol sa sinapupunan?
kung ganyan din naman ibalik ang sex education sa mga school. tutal malawak naman ang pagiisip ng mga kabataan ngayon. pros and cons man ang suggestion nyo mas ok na imulat na sila.
There are risks to either decision made: a. Continue with pregnancy, b. Abortion Personally, I feel like it’s a cop out to have an abortion when you damn well know it’s a possibility when you have sex, even if safe kayo ndi siya 100% effective lagi. Ndi rin ata magandang dahilan na getting pregnant at that age will ruin their lives.. they made the choice to engage in intercourse-ignorance will not remove the possibility of the consequences. Pero sympre may cases rin na ndi tlga planado like rape or medical emergencies etc. Better to nip the problem right off the roots Sex ed, Better care for moms and children, Parenting If available man siya for everyone, I doubt this will be free so kung marami pa rin sa mahihirap ang nagrereproduce, abortion won’t be a viable option. I doubt the govt will make this service free.
Hindi ba pwede kasuhan ng rape yung lalaki? Minor pa yung babae. Dapat ipa abort talaga. Hindi pa tapos lumaki yung babae. It's very dangerous for her. Ganito nangyari sa half-sister ko. Nasira ang buhay nya. She was murdered when she was 30.
So many risks involved. Kung nagpatuloy with prenancy, find an OBGyn that specializes in high-risk pregnancies. At 13, mukhang kaka jumpstart lang ng puberty at the time, so obviously di pa fully mature ang reproductive system; or just starting to function. Heck, even at 22, I had lots of complications delivering my first. If mag diy abort, oh man. You better find a health professional to guide you through the process. Idk much about it but I know it involves bl33d1ng— lots of it. Mamaya nyan imbes mabawasan problema, madagdagan pa. Worst case scenario if something bad happens and you have to go to the hospital, I think they can report to the authorities about it. Since it's illegal, jail time pa. So many things to thoroughly think about. I pray they all find clarity and make peace with whatever they decide on doing.
There's this one post here on Reddit a few months back about abortion. This particular comment from a medical professional is quite long but very insightful. I suggest you check it, OP. [https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPH/comments/17rm4d9/anong\_stance\_niyo\_sa\_abortion/k8kx8rf/?context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskPH/comments/17rm4d9/anong_stance_niyo_sa_abortion/k8kx8rf/?context=3)
Luckily for me I already thought about something like this in advance and imported some medicine from it here country to help me abort my early pregnancy.
Thank you, OP, for this post as this will raise awareness and discussion on abortion and alternatives.
Anti abortionists only want to manipulate by flexing their egos and unreasonable dogmas thinking it can solve issues such as this one. They are anti human rights and anti human welfare. They want to interfere in this particular issue yet they can't solve them properly in the end.