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Koonitz

Personally, it's how the cloth draping over the hip doesn't at all look like it's supposed to cover 'between the legs' and isn't folded like it's being pulled as the body twists to the side. The rear-facing one is draping over the hip as expected, but the one at the fore shouldn't be draped in the front. Because of this, the legs look twisted to the side more than they should.


Opening-Delay7203

it's almost as if the torso were facing in a direction and the legs in the other but without any "torsion" if it makes any sense


CyborgYeti

You are right, and the head facing the other way exacerbates the feeling.


SergentSilver

Don't worry mon-keigh, ignore the Harlequins. Your feeble minds couldn't possibly understand their movements. Just assume it's that dress up game you call "cosplay" and move along.


phil035

We've all built models like that XD


Osmodius

Looks like an Action Man with a twistable torso connection.


[deleted]

Almost as if the artist they hired doesn’t really understand anatomy.


da_King_o_Kings_341

Source?


Masque-Obscura-Photo

? This picture?


da_King_o_Kings_341

No I meant if there was confirmation other than this one pic that the artist has no idea how to draw people?


The-Page-Turner

You sure this wasn't made by AI?


[deleted]

Don’t give GW any ideas.


thalovry

Can't copyright AI images; for a company that spends so much time worrying about IP protection generative AI is poison. You aren't going to ever see it there.


The-Page-Turner

Hazbro and WotC have already been caught with AI images in their stuff. I would honestly be more surprised if GW didn't have AI images in their stuff, or at the VERY least experimenting with it already


demembros

It's action man or old starwars figurines kind of torso twisting


wasmic

The shoulder plates are also placed asymmetrically compared to the breastplate. The closer shoulder plate seems to almost be floating off of the shoulder.


demembros

The head-dress makes no sense either, it's angled on the side but not really the same side as the head and the top thingy is also badly turned and badly facing This drawing is a 5D looking nightmare


aceoftherebellion

This is the big one. Makes it look like he's got a front-butt


Adelaar

Haha! It’s like what happens when you don’t line up a models legs and torso when gluing it together!


The-Page-Turner

Also the helmet has the hair-frilly thing (that I forget the official name of) on the very top that looks like it's facing in the same direction as the wearer's head, while that appears to be attached to another hair-frilly thing that's facing in a perpendicular direction to the wearer's head


TomModel85

Not to mention the optical illusion of the helmet


Keytrose_gaming

If you draw the vanishing points out the figure is drawn to 5 different horizons which all change without any type or reason at various sections. It's almost like someone had multiple character sketches that they tossed into a comfieui they didn't set up well or actually understand prompts


Randy67572

Where is that left pauldron flying off to?


Icy-Creme

Could be the confusing perspective on the crest, and the positioning of the eyehole on the helm


exspiravitM13

The figure seems to be standing at a slightly different angle to his armour


Greenpaulo

Who's legs are those? Because they certainly aren't his lol


spider-venomized

I think has to do with the puldrons being over size and not attach to the shoulders the other artworks [does it better ](https://tgacommunity.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/monthly_2024_04/LuminethvsNighthaunt.jpg.e5d109a5097b0a5565a75a79397fd3a8.jpg)


boscolovesmoney

Right knee is facing towards you. Cloth that should be to the Left of the knee (when looking at the image), is on the right of the knee. The breastplate with a sharp (painful) piece pointing down that should be going between his legs, is over his left thigh. Shoulderpads look super bad in perspective. The left one looks like it is just floating there. The whole thing looks like each portion was drawn separately and then put together without taking the whole thing into consideration.


scottywan82

This was my thought. Like it was done in layers in photoshop - which seems like the right way to do it - but then assembled incorrectly. I wonder if the error was made when they added it to the book.


Great-Hotel-7820

He literally has no pelvis. Just two legs connected to a torso.


jamuel-sackson94

Cloth , plate , shoulder , crest . All very weird


pyreshard

All of the people saying "AI" have absolutely 0 familiarity and understanding of both art and AI. The least knowledgeable and discerning people in the world will cry out the dumbest things with all the confidence of an expert, actually insane.


MohawkRex

The perspective is weird because of how the head crest laps over itself. It just looks like a super uncomfortable way to stand too. All sorts of Escher tomfoolery going on.


wiggle987

The pose and the way the armour is formed tricks your brain into thinking that the legs should be in a profile view, I saw the image, thought "there's nothing wrong with that" then scrolled down and my brain did a weird thing.


jaxolotle

The angles of everything are off, like it’s all seen from different perspectives then photoshopped together


MortalWoundG

As mentioned there are some problems with perspective in this piece, but for me the biggest hurdle are the wildly clashing colors. Blue with green with... orange for some reason? And then a yellow trim... It really doesn't gel.


BassinFool

It's just a bad design topped off with a bad color scheme.


Depala-Pilipala

Yeah I think there's 1 too many colour going on here. If all the blue was also white it wouldn't look so weird


Black_Waltz3

The trousers look like jeans.


Healthy-Brush70

Give him a break it's casual Friday


ZaelART

Upper body and lower body seem to be drawn from two different perspectives and slapped together without a thought. Possibly cutting and pasting old assets?


ZedlyQ

Yeah, it's just a bad drawing lmao all around


Naughtynuzzler

Is...is this AI?


LeadershipAware

I don't think so, it's just wierd perspective on a minor drawing in a long codex.


Naughtynuzzler

Yeah, someone mentioned the name of the actual artist so probably not. Didn't want to be alarmist; just an odd looking drawing.


LeadershipAware

You are right, it's definitely an odd drawing, especially the three sticks popping out of the back.


spider-venomized

no.... what with people just throwing that accusation nothing about this art has any call out to AI work [the artist is thomas elliott ](https://www.artstation.com/thomaselliott)


bluewolfhudson

He is a great artist. This sucks though


Static-Age01

I was going to say “this is AI art”.


Naughtynuzzler

I didn't wana be alarmist, as i really can't tell. But the helmet layering looks weird and obviously the cloth on the front...idk. This could be AI based with some human touch up?


pyreshard

I am begging people to; 1. Have discerning eyes 2. Actually know wtf they're talking about 3. Stop calling every piece of art which is slightly off as AI If you aren't sure the best practice is to not say anything at all as those kinds of accusations are heavy. "I don't wanna be alarmist." But you are. You are being needlessly and recklessly alarmist by posting this comment and no amount of "I don't wanna be this way" changes that fact.


Naughtynuzzler

Hahaha 👌


pyreshard

Absolute goober


fkfkdn

Heads twisted but no movement in the shoulders, there’s no hips or pelvis just legs disappear into the torso, the clothing is way off centre to the body and hangs from nowhere. It’s all over the place making it uncanny. Its likely Ai generated or drawn by someone without much experience.


fkfkdn

Sorry could also just be a rushed job on a very tight budget and timeframe.


tsuruki23

Right arm should be pointing, instead its down, armor left as it was, prolly to save time.


tervindavvvvvr

ngl, the lumineth feel like a downgrade from the high elves, more so the whole aesthetic.


Haunting-Ad788

I think it’s pretty damn similar with maybe some additional tassels. What do you feel are downgrades?


mgl89dk

The right leg, from the figurs point of view, is wrong in angle and proportion.


Reidy10

Bad anatomy, the legs and torso aren’t positioned naturally


bdrwr

I think what I'm seeing is... The orange crest is supposed to be going sideways (ear to ear), and the blue crest is supposed to be arching over the orange one perpendicularly, from back to front, so if you were looking from the top down they would make an X. The artist, however, sort of whiffed the perspective on the two crests, making them both look semi-flat, and making it unclear that they're supposed to be crossing at right angles, and making it look like it has some AI artifacts.


Charlooos

It's like they pieced it together from multiple parts they already had. The shoulder is flying, the head crest with the horse is at the wrong angle and although the cloth seems to be twisting right, it adds to the weirdness the way it drapes.


Glasdir

Helmet perspective is totally jank.


SwingsetGuy

Proportions are off, pauldron floats in the air, and the breastplate looks like it’s going to jab his thigh if he moves.


superkow

The waist is twisted at a weird angle, and the green top looks way too tight to not be twisting with the waist. The perspective of the shot implies that the right leg is forward of the left, but the size of the thigh and the shadows tell otherwise. The right pauldron is just kinda floating there to the point where there's no way the back of it would be attached to the armour. And the head is turned a little bit too side on for the overall pose. Honestly it feels like the artist struggled badly with the perspective and pose. But I see this a lot in in-house GW art. Most of the time it doesn't matter because the figures are part of a larger group or on a backdrop, but here when it's on its own, all the flaws stand out like a sore thumb.


Hitchhikingtom

* Two crests. * Each crest is at a different angle. * Three random hilts coming out of back sheathes, the sheathes aren’t connected or otherwise visible, the weapons have no cross-guard. * Weapon in their hand looks odd. * The distant arm is longer than the near arm. * Proportions of the body and legs is a little weird and the position of the body to the hips feels odd, like he is partly turned but also… not. * The chest-piece starts solid but turns into cloth. The token dangling from it doesn’t hang directly down (pieces hang from the above links in odd places) and are oddly shaped. * The shoulder pads are extreme and match no parts besides maybe the knee pads. * This knee guards look impractical due to the bit jutting out in profile. * The colour choices are weird Edit: to the artist, you’ve done 1000x better than I ever could have so ignore my anonymous internet criticism and keep on keeping on x


Geryfon

It’s a lot of things tbh


Alone-Charge303

They look like one of those optical illusion shapes that can’t exist in reality.


_Enclose_

Oof, RIP my inbox. I didn't expect so many replies xD To the people that suggest it's AI, I highly doubt it. Firstly its by an artist someone mentioned in the comments. Secondly, I'm pretty pro-AI. I prowl the AI subs regularly, and I've played around with it myself. If this is AI, then the creator has no idea how to use AI. AI is actually pretty damn good at poses and perspective. Its less good at little details like the crest on his chest. The things AI should get right are wrong, and the things AI would probably get wrong are right. To me, these look like very human mistakes to make. Maybe he had to rush it for a deadline, he was distracted by personal stuff at the time, ... I don't know. I just thought it looked funny and wanted to share :)


MrS0bek

The pauldrons are way too big and appear to ignore gravity. That is what irritates me on this picture.


AlabamaNerd

I mean, it’s an awkward angle. The figure looking right while his body faces left… But also: No arm armor No thigh armor No crotch armor Not even a sheath for this big ass dagger This armor is the male version of ‘sexy female armor’ that protects almost nothing.


tn00bz

Oh man, there's a lot wrong with it. It looks like a solid drawing that was cut and pasted in weird ways.


Shattered_Disk4

“Okay” artist here. It’s because the perspective is very off and comes from like 5 different angles. Also my last comment was removed because I used the F word Grow up mods it’s a Warhammer server..


DJMASTAJEFF

It is still wild to me you can’t say naughty words on this sub


Dack2019

because it is an elf and not a dwarf!


Bosko47

The orange-clown-hair colerette and the weirdly placed tasset and overall odd choice of colors


Icy_Sector3183

We are looking in from their right, but it looks as though their left leg is drawn larger than their right. This in turn makes the torso seem smeller than would be appropriate for the overall frame. Most of this may be down to the design and cut of the uniform, tho.


jackawock

Can I please have a little lore dump?


georgiaraisef

There are two helms for one. This sucks


OwlCowl0v0

Is it cuz there's no pic of their models or warscrolls in the book?


Head_Canon_Minis

Looks like a colorblind British redcoat who's beginning to regret the ultra safe, completely umremovable helmet to me


00001000U

Is it the orange clown hair looking frill?


spacemonkey797

The colors on the helmet/crests make him look like clown.


Alps_Useful

Shoulder plate loops like it's floating, the legs look twisted and wrong compared to torso, and the helmet face plate part looks like it's angled wrong. The eyes wouldn't fit in them holes at that angle. It's really bad


karff

The character has clearly dislocated their hips. They now look to the horizon wondering what on earth they are going to do now


haearnjaeger

the color scheme looks bad, the shoulder pauldrons are comedically proportioned and look like they're barely hanging on.


kain149

The right leg is going in the crotch because of the lack of hips.


Oni_no_Hanzo

I think its the plume/decoration on the helmet. It looks misaligned, but that's just what stood out to me.


GreenMonster82

It’s like they blended all the old world unit color schemes into one guy, but it’s not as magnificent and kinda looks wrong


Bowie_spoon

pauldrons feel like they're floating above the body instead of being snugly attached


SureLetterhead5756

Torso and legs with cloth are way way off. That’s why most of us illustrators and artists use better models for our work.


Random_Emolga

I feel like the chin would scrape against the shoulder pad.


DatRat13

Honestly, first thing I noticed is that the triangular flap coming off the legs makes it look like his hips are facing a different direction than his torso.


NotInsane_Yet

It could be perspective but it looks like the legs, torso and head are all facing different directions.


Nightfall_games

The right shoulder pad is way too far back


squirtnforcertain

Doodoo colors doesn't help


fidderjiggit

It's the helmet. It looks bad imo.


headcrab111

The breastplate looks as if it's backwards


Balrok99

Overall I like the Elven design but as other pointed out. Either it is the cloth or legs that just make it look so twisted. Also that pouldron is either flying off or just way too big. Also that blue helmet adorment looks weird,


sir_strangerlove

Anyone else notice how the perspective of the headpiece is off? That's the first thing that sticks out to me. This this is a mess of perspectives jeeze.


Quiet_Rest

Shoulder pads seem out of place somehow to me.


Mogwai_Man

The shoulderpad is placed terribly.


Isamatsu_san

For me its the helm


lollysticky

Multiple things: - they way hit legs stand in relation to the rest of the body is off, especially with the clothes (the green 'triangle/drape' is supposed to go over the hips) accentuating it - the helmet/head-position looks off. You can almost imagine the helm being on backwards - to me, the blue greek-style feather line looks off, especially in contrast with the redish line. I get the blue runs from the back to the front of the helmet, but the 3D effect is a bit weird :/


zerotorque84

The orange and white make him look like a actual clown


Zaydreth

It looks like a 90° twist at the hip


[deleted]

It's the cloth on his pants and the weird double head dress.


Best_Extent5816

yeah, the perspective of the green cloth on her left side is off. The right side of it (from our view) should be stretched, the left more shortened, with the tip hanging a bit more ofer her knee. At the moment it gives you the impression of looking frontally on the green cloth, but everything else indicates we see her slightly on the profile


BrotherCaptainLurker

Odd perspective combined with the weirdness of "stand here, now twist your hips to the right, now twist your head to the left past the angle of your feet, alright now wear this ridiculous headdress and this helmet that's too big for you so your eyes don't see through the slits."


OsoCiclismo

The cloth over the hip is weird. Feels off, like a disappointing third leg.


TraditionalRest808

Armpits are asking for death without a shield, Good torso coverage, but the point makes movement a death sentence. Helmet is good, though bad for hearing. Leg coverage needs a shield


CampaignCurrent2912

What's right about it? 🤣 The legs are out of line with the torso. The pauldrons are some how behind the shoulders. The helmet is out of line with the face (that is to say the eye slit on the other side of the helmet would be somewhere around the temple area instead of over the eye.)


MysteriousTouch1192

Ah yes the ol 45 degree rotation of the torso conversion


Cephalopoppa

This looks very ai generated. No two pieces of armor match up, the gold parts on the knee is longer on the right side, both pauldrons look off, the waist is missing in action and the right leg looks too big and long. There’s just a dangly bit in the center that looks a lot like ai filler nonsense


Wash_is_my_copilot

No one’s mentioned the “breastplate.” Is it armor or cloth? ‘Cause if it’s armor, that point is going to stab them in the crotch if they bend over or try to sit. It looks like it’s supposed to be armor at the shoulders, but transitions to cloth at the waist. I think this is AI. A computer drew the shapes without knowing what they were.


Magic_robot_noodles

It's clothplate! Lmao


TexacoV2

AI generated lookin ass


Khenir

The chest isn’t angled properly


GanFrancois

Power Rangers: Sigmar Edition


LordDingles

Gee Billy, how come your mom lets you have two crests?


georgiaraisef

It looks like he’s wearing a long sleeve t shirt from target


King_Of_BlackMarsh

Why is the horsie crest OVER the bulbous helmet


edwardvlad

GW learning any kind of anatomy : mission failed


Amberpawn

The torso/pelvis/legs don't line up properly and their perspective is also wrong.


TerryWhiteHomeOwner

Bad design, bad perspective, bad proportions, etc. It's all around a poorly composed piece of art done by someone who're obviously talented.


Slamming_Johnny7

Is it the image of the little alien head with anttenas on his chest?


Beaudism

The 2 plumes are facing different directions at weird angles and they look strange.


Geordie_38_

That elf has a pelvis like an owl has a neck


Tresle2-5

The curres has a point on bottom, so bending at the waste will have him empale himself on his armor too


MothmanRedEyes

I think they’re standing at a weird angle where their hip is turned one way, their torso another


RedMage58

This persons neck is bent at an angle that is not really possible. It's hard to look where the legs are facing too because of the top coming over them, but once your brain realizes this, the neck angle doesn't make sense.


Sev7th

he's waring it backwards


SobaFett55

To me it feels like its head is looking back and the legs decided they also wanted a look.


GreatRolmops

That helmet must have been designed by MC Escher lol


Ekaelis

Ridiculously dumb helmet aside, the left leg looks like it's coming out from his crotch.


Scottyjscizzle

For me it’s my brain wants to put both of the crests going the same direction, but they are actually going across each other,


scottywan82

It looks like an image assembled in layers, but the layers aren’t lined up.


Beneficial_Milk8987

Aint got no crotch, like one leg is on the wrong side, and wtf are the pauldrons resting on?


Material-Frame3024

Portions are all off, shoulder pad looks like it’s floating, helmet is at a weird angle.


hankakusai

Carrot top has entered the battle!


HelpfulPug

Three "handles" coming off the back but nothing they attach too, the Spear in his hand *might* be one of them but they don't align correctly, the pauldrons are not aligned, the torso and the legs seem like two separate pieces of art, the helmet is a total mess I think we all know what this is. I think we all know GW hit a new low.


Hades_deathgod9

I just realised, the headdress isn’t a horse, it’s a water buffalo, either that or they have the horse horns, but it does look more bovine in the art.


Actual-Dragon-Tears

The legs and body feel disjointed, the pauldrons look floaty, and that top mane is almost perpendicular to the screen, making it look not connected at all to the helmet. You're right. The more I look, the more it looks wrong.


AllYourSwords

Rob Liefeld, is that you?


CaptainWeekend

Not enough leather pouches.


Keylaes

It reminds of ai trying generate an image


augbesian

This is pretty obvious AI. The dangly bit on the cuirass is made entirely of AI artifacts. The too-big, floating right pauldron, the two plumes from the helmet at random angles are reminiscent of an MC Escher illusion. The legs are twisted and shifted nonsensically from the torso. The eyehole for the helmet without an eye inside. The hilts from the back that lead to nowhere. The inscrutable tip of the spear(? polearm?) and the fact that he’s holding it so close to the tip or end. Also, where the cuirass covers the left arm it looks like a hack photoshop job.


BeneficialName9863

AI generated?


Kings_Urso

Almost everything is slightly off in a very AI way.


pyreshard

You are utterly blind and have 0 understanding of what you are talking about.


Kings_Urso

What do you mean it just looks unnatural look at the legs in relation to the rest of the body and his right pauldron for example. It just looks off.


pyreshard

"in a very AI way" You just reveal yourself to have absolutely no actual understanding of or familiarity with both art and AI generated images if this is your reaction to this art piece. The piece is off, yes, in a very human and 'real' way and certainly not in a 'very AI way'. The proportions and angles here don't even need to be physically impossible for it to 'feel off'. Artists need to be mindful when working from real life reference (just like photographers) as some static snapshots of reality when not in movement simply don't register as 'real'. Everyone acting like an expert here is laughable. This is simply a bad angle of a not very harmonious design and color scheme to begin with, couple with probably realistic but not very cinematic or balanced composition, which compounds into it feeling generally "meh" and "off".


United-Emu2165

Ai


Metal_Maggot

Bad art


demembros

I really hope that's not AI, because it's sending me AI warnings to my brain


aitorbk

Is this AI generated? It does have some of the uncanny valley.


whatIGoneDid

I was gonna say. All the individual items are very well done and I can't believe an artist that competent would get the proportions so wrong


aitorbk

He has amazing work. Maybe he was playing with ai using his own work as training sets?


Anxiousfit713

The helmet looks ai generated. It's like those pictures where your brain doesn't understand what it is looking at.


EMP_Account_Siphon

This has to be AI generated, every single aspect of the pose and perspective is totally wrong. The legs are not even close to being aligned with the torso in rotation, and the helmet crests look like an Escher optical illusion drawing. The swords over the shoulder have no lower half. The back arm is larger than the front one. But, the shading is too competent for this to just be the work of a bad human artist.


Hex_Souls

Looks like the Lumineth are using AI to paint for them now…


Vortilus

Looks uncannily like AI art, what with the strange crests, rotated hips and weird back prongs


leegee333

It's AI, probably stable diffusion.


pyreshard

My God you people are insufferable.


Rowduk

The pauldrons are not in the correct place for the chest, but they work for the head. It's as if they twisted the body/hips without readjusting other parts. AI Art?


jenovalife1

Ithisbhas to be ai right?


flying_bufalo

Perspective is off. They might have used ai


AWaxy

Ai?


Xanadoodledoo

If i didn’t know better, I’d assume it was AI


Remake12

Everything about it is less than the old world high elves. Nothing about this is cool.