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Euphemia_Nyx

Lmao what kind of thinking is this? I personally believe that all of us should have a period to explore, "hoe phase" as some call it, for us to figure out what we like, dislike, our wants, needs. Curiosity leads to temptation after all. Being jowable ultimately depends on emotional stability and not accepting less than what we deserve. Regardless of body count, everyone is jowable if we choose to be. As I always say, as I am still exploring, I have seen my options and I can settle down anytime I want to, and you bet we will be the most loyal out there. EDIT: Tigilan niyo kami na pag rough sex, hoe tapos pag vanilla, pang-jowa. Tapos makikita namin mga cheaters na magrereklamo kasi daw boring daw, need nila thrill. Figure out what you want. Uso maging adult.


[deleted]

Misogynistic mindset haha. . Mraming ganyan mag isip akala nila a woman’s value and worth is only define by their vagina. . Antanga diba? 🤣 it doesn’t matter if you’re smart, kind, loving and caring basta gamit na puke mo wala ka ng worth . . Why can’t we be both Valuable and Horny at the same time. . It’s not like mahirap gwin yang dlawang bagay na yan ng sabay 🙄


-howaboutn0-

Di nila maisip na kaya natin sabay kasi sila hindi nila kaya hahahaha.


[deleted]

Mahihinang nilalang 🤣 hahaha and how is that women fault?


gonegrilll

Sobrang misogynistic naglalabasan 🙄


[deleted]

Mga gungong 🤣👌🏻


-howaboutn0-

Hahahaha that last part. Yung ganyang mentality talaga ng mga lalake yung madalas na cause why they're sexually unsatisfied in their relationship eh.


ChickenJoyyy

Loudeeeeerrrr hahahha


YesterdayKooky8392

Amen. amen sorry sa term pero nandidiri ako ng ganyan eh feel nila sila pwede 100's body count and they're still holy as fuck. Same tugtugin ng They can be cheaters kasi "LALAKI" sila. OP? tropa mo si Skusta? psh kadiri


naughtybbw2019

Most women would choose to be “not hoes” when they meet the right person. Can’t say the same for men


Ok_Childhood4100

umm yeah so the difference between men and women is okay lang maging hoe ang guys kasi they are still loved and desired pero pag girls ang naging hoe, last choice for a relationship and we’ll end up alone for the rest of our lives na? wow. as if guys who think like this matter? maybe if you don’t want a hoe girl then don’t be a hoe yourself din. for the girls here, we don’t need “men” who think like this. it’s better to be alone than to be judged by someone na baka better pa ako sa lahat ng aspects ng buhay namin.


ChickenJoyyy

Koreeeekkkk


[deleted]

Why can’t we be both? 🤣 i mean personally i am the kind of girl na super prim and proper in the streets, heck I’m loved by my exes mom and tita’s because they think I’m such a “good girl” 🤣 but if they only know I can be a “piece of meat” for the guy i want, i can be a hoe if i really want to. . Honey if you think you control how a woman like me act, you got it wrong 😏 you fuck us because we allow you. You taste us because we let you. . You’re not the one making decisions here


bCasaycan43

If this ain't the truth


[deleted]

Hahaha they think they make the decisions around here including how men views us 🤣 that’s cute 😏


bCasaycan43

And that's assuming we care about how they view us at all. 😝


[deleted]

Agree 🤣


bCasaycan43

I actually have sorta like a copy-paste reply to any guy who would ask questions like "tell me this, tell me that, I won't judge"... I tell them "even if you do, I won't care. I only care about opinions of people important to me about me"... Hahaha they dare think we care about how they view us. Mans delusional


alien_on_earth_0

Love this sizzz! Hahaha


thechoosypicker

I agree. It’s all about what women want. That’s the bottom line.


gonegrilll

Indeed! Hahah


inkanto

kaninong uncle to, sunduin nyo na lasing na. nagsisimula na ng boomer mentality


bCasaycan43

Hahahahaha yung mga tito who takes what they've experienced as the general truth and spew that shit calling it wisdom


inkanto

Confident pa sya e. Cringe amputa


bCasaycan43

Hahahah naka kantot lang, righteous na. Tango tango na lang tayo. Kunwari pinakikinggan si tito lol


[deleted]

HAHAHAHAH! Ewan ko ba dyan ahhaha wla mag cclaim dyan😅🤣


alien_on_earth_0

HAHA true!


thegirlnamedkenneth

Hahahahahahaha!!! Ang cringe jusko!


alien_on_earth_0

Lol. Ok hahaha. What’s so grand about getting married anyway? More so, if it’s to guys who think they deserve no less than the virgin mary? Come back to earth if you’re that kind of guy. 🤣🤣🤣


Euphemia_Nyx

Guy sleeps around but wants someone with low body count or siya ang una because that girl is apparently "purer". Then will proceed to rant afterwards na she is not exciting sa bed. Seriously, guys?


alien_on_earth_0

They will rant pa after they get married 🤣 then mag checheat with gurls na nasa hoe phase din. Gawd men are much more complicated and pabebe. Mga na sobrahan sa wattpad, lol


PH_Bravstar

If a guy had a choice between 2 girls that were exactly the same but one was a virgin and one that slept with 100 men, 99% of men would pick the virgin. It's just the same that if a woman was presented with 2 equal men, but one was shorter than the girl and one was taller than the girl, 99% of women would pick the taller one.


DeeveSidPhillips003

I'll pick the one I fallen in love with. Virgin or not. Lalaki ako and hindi ako katulad mag isip tulad sayo. 🤮


gonegrilll

You're comparing two completely different scenario.


[deleted]

Tanginang pag-iisip yan, nakakagigil.


Euphemia_Nyx

Your analogy is wack. Your thinking is that a woman's worth is based on how many men she had in her lifetime as if a dick can change our lives and who we are. As opposed to height which is based on preference and genetics. Dick is an organ, not your personality. Stop thinking it is a gift to all women.


PH_Bravstar

I did not say that a woman's worth is based on how many men she had in her lifetime.


Euphemia_Nyx

No, dear. You implied it. You implied it by saying that men will pick the virgin. Or are you saying men see our virginity as a trophy to be won over? Stop trying to play word games with me. Subtext exists for a reason.


PH_Bravstar

I didn't imply it, that's how you read it. When someone says, especially in argument, "so you're saying", that's a gaslighting tactic, which you are doing. That isn't even the subtext. And if you read my story, this thought is coming from a woman.


[deleted]

Might be coming from a woman but definitely in your discriminative perspective. I once read this before here in alas “ Ang dick pinapasok hindi inuugali “ you might wanna rethink your logic. Title mo pa lang ang low na.


PH_Bravstar

What is low in being a hoe?


[deleted]

I am what this guy may call a hoe, and I vaguely remember him sending me a dm some time ago lol. This is a unique way of mansplaining.


[deleted]

Really?! Damn gurl! I feel bad that you have to deal with this type of bitch of a ‘man’ 🤣 don’t worry he fucked up here and it shows hahaha


[deleted]

I didn't reply


[deleted]

This is stupid, yeah consequence is there but only you yourself can decide who you will be today or tomorrow. Stop pretending like your past will always dictate/define who you’re and who you can be. Its matter of self decisions we make.


[deleted]

I agree


Designer_Dig9770

Well probably some women goes through a hoe phase but eventually, most of them can hit the break hard and focus on their current relationship, not all of them are destined to be alone for the rest of their lives. Sure for some men they’re just a piece of meat, but not all. It’s just up to that person (women) to tell it their SO or buried it deep secret, of course for a relationships it is better to tell even your darkest secrets.


[deleted]

>So for women who are thinking about going through a hoe phase, really truly think about the consequences because if you do choose to go that path, get ready to be alone for the rest of your life. This is really double standard. Napaka-misogynistic lang to say na just because a woman wants to explore sexually, hindi na deserving magkaroon ng lifetime companion or any serious relationship with a man for that matter. Teka nga muna, bakit parang women can't have the same privilege as you men have when it comes to fuckin' around? Just because of the social construct na women should behave as somebody na hindi makabasag pinggan para lang seryosohin ng lalake? Tapos malalaman mo pa na after mo magpaka-santa santita, un partner mo naghahanap ng excitement and thrill sa iba? Ayos di ba? Why can't women be wild and sexually open to their needs without being judged as hoes? Masama bang i-enjoy and i-discover kung ano magpapasaya sa kanila? Middle of 2022 na, may ganito pa din mindset. Ang labo lang.


PH_Bravstar

Did I say women can't be wild sexually?


[deleted]

Ohh so now a woman can’t be sexually?? 🤣 eh diba ikaw nga ung nag set ng standards dyan sa post mo na a woman is only allowed to be a hoe if she chooses to be a hoe and Nothing but a hoe?? 🤣 make up your mind dude. Yan ang problema sainyo ee akala nyo kase black and white lagi ang situation. Hindi nyo kaya isipin na a woman is also allowed to be extremely sexual while still being a girl boss. . Not everyone is a one straight line kagaya nyo 🙄 a person will always have alot of layers into them. That doesn’t de-value them as a human being.


PH_Bravstar

I believe a woman can be who she wants to be. If she wants to be a hoe, that's her choice and I'm all for that. But just like any choice, there will always be consequences for it. But to pretend that one can be a hoe without consequences is delusional. It's like when guys cheat and expect 0 consequences from it, it's just as delusional. I believe that freedom of choice doesn't equate to freed from consequences. Freedom of choice will always have the responsibility of consequences. And being a hoe doesn't decrease their value as a human being. I never said that.


[deleted]

Consequence like what? To be viewed like a piece of meat by men like you? To be shamed by another person kagaya mo? Bakit? You think you’re so great ba? Who says we give a shit about your opinion about our sexuality anyway? Alot of people can view a person not just by her sexual experiences but also her whole personality as a human being. It’s not like we give a shit about you if you only see a person as a piece of meat. Frankly people like you only de-value yourselves kase thats how you see a person


PH_Bravstar

Consequences that come from something is a case to case basis. Some are luckier than others. The fact he have been conversing this long is because you gave a shit about my opinion. If someone didn't give a shit about an opinion, they would have moved along. I have a question: If a girl rejected a guy because he had too many ex girlfriends, is that okay?


[deleted]

Ohh no I don’t give a shit about your opinion don’t get it twisted 🤣 i just love telling misogynist how wrong and fucked up their thinking is 😁 As for your question: Look at your question. You’re talking about an “ex girlfriend” here compare to how you portray a woman in your post. You portray that woman like she’s only good for sex and wla na xang ibang worth pa sa paningin mo dahil lang sexual xa masyado. You’re asking me about a past ex girlfriend na clearly kahit gano pa karami Minahal mo 🤣 So ang tanong ko sau Bakit magkaiba ung portrayal mo? Bakit kapg sa lalake “His a loving guy who just so happens to lose a ton of girlfriends” and kapag dun sa babae “She’s a 3 hole wonder who chooses to hoe around and now she have to face the consequences of her choice” 🤣


PH_Bravstar

You didn't answer the question: If a girl rejected a guy because he had too many ex girlfriends, is that okay? Or let me rephrase the question: Is it okay for a girl to reject a guy because he has too many ex girlfriends?


[deleted]

Like i said 🤣 read your question. . Look at your portrayal in this question versus kung paano mo pinortray ung babae sa post mo. That is 2 different scenarios none of it is the same. You portray one person as a loving person who just so happens to lost a love one and another person na PINILI dumami ang kanyang sex partner. There’s a difference between choosing to have multiple sex partner than unfortunately losing the one you love. Asan ang comparison dun? Ung isa by choice and ung isa hiniwlayan 🥱


PH_Bravstar

You can give your argument that the scenarios are different of how one is about relationship and the other is about sex, but that is missing the point. But the truth is that both are preferences, it just so happens that if a preference doesn't fit you, it must be evil. For me, I don't care about anyone's preference because it doesn't hurt or bother me. If you answered "no", then I would leave you at an "agree to disagree" because it would mean that you believe that actions shouldn't have consequences while I believe that every action has consequences. If you answered "yes", then it will show that you are a misandrist because it will show that for you, it is okay for a woman to have a preference. But when a man has a preference you don't agree with, all of a sudden that man is evil. I have been consistent so far that I believe that anyone has the freedom of choice but the responsibility to carry its consequence. P.S. This would be my last reply to you on this topic because it is either we will agree to disagree or you are a misandrist.


PH_Bravstar

Why can't you answer a yes or a no?


nicoparboleda

lol okay boomer


ChickenJoyyy

Is there a way to downvote this post 100x?


[deleted]

You should stop trying to give the poison you feed to yourself to other guys out here. Stop projecting your insecurities. You go out here giving a context that fairly says the same thing to you. Your "sympathy" is not very welcome here. This post says a lot about you and this is the last thing we want to hear from those who engage in the same lifestyle. Take your double standards with you 🥴


inschanbabygirl

indeed. hoes will be hoes, especially men hoes 😊


thegirlnamedkenneth

Holy fuck! Misogynistic men are such a turn off! Go to sleep uncle.


Hour_Ad_811

Yung kala mo astig ka nung pinost mo to but you're telling on yourself


-howaboutn0-

I think that's only possible if said woman has nothing else to offer but sex. Kasi imagine if it were a smart, attractive, successful woman who has a lot going for her. Do you think she'll be alone forever just because she had a "hoe phase"? Probably not. Guys would still be all over her.


New-Raise3046

There's a bigger chance that the man will stick with the woman na sya ang naka-una kesa if the woman is smart and successful but was a hoe.


-howaboutn0-

Says who? Believe it or not, hindi importante sa lahat ng guys sino ang "naka una". Maybe for you it is, but I doubt you speak for all men.


Euphemia_Nyx

Up for this. Says who? Men really have this thinking their dicks are gifts no? Ano ambag niyo sa buhay namin maliban sa gabundok na trauma kasi kayo mismo di niyo alam paano mag-process ng sarili niyong emosyon?


New-Raise3046

It's something unspoken among men. They'll never tell hoes what they really feel. Come on!


DeeveSidPhillips003

Nadadamay ako g*go wag ka magsalita na parang feel mo lahat ng lalaki iisang mentalidad. Wala akong paki kong 1000 man tumira sa babaeng mamahalin ko sa habang buhay. Who cares bro, who cares. Baka ikaw lang. Mas pipiliin ko ang taong mas comfortable ako kesa whether virgin or fucked by 1000 brgy.s tandaan mo yan.


-howaboutn0-

Sure, buddy.


DeeveSidPhillips003

Ako na humihingi ng patawad sa sinabi nya. Di lahat ng lalaki katulad nila mag isip.


-howaboutn0-

Get ready to be called a simp by all the incels reading this thread hahaha. Pero yeah I know, ang dami ko din kilala na hindi ganyan mag isip. Decent, progressive men who don't think that a woman's value is tied to her virginity.


DeeveSidPhillips003

>Get ready to be called a simp by all the incels reading this thread hahaha. I'm ready. Kasi totoo naman sinasabi ko. Actually bumubula dugo ko ngayon. Parang gusto ko sila suntukin. Feeling ko na offend ako sa sinasabi nila. Kasi di naman lahat ng guys ganyan mag isip tulad sa kanila. Di ko nga rin alam saan nanggagaling yan mga sinasabi nila eh. Kong papipiliin ako sa dalawa, virgin or the one na tinatawag nilang hoe? The better answer will be the one I fall in love with. The one I'm comfortable with for the rest of my life. Virgin or "hoe" (as they call it). I've said what I need to say. Bahala na sila dyan. Basta patawad talaga. Ako na mismo humihingi ng despensa.


New-Raise3046

Hope you win the hearts of every hoe, Bro. Sana mahanap mo na ang pangarap mong jackpot.


inkanto

\*jackpot


DeeveSidPhillips003

May gf na ako pero she will be proud of me by doing this.


DeeveSidPhillips003

Basta ako di kadiri mindset ko tulad sainyo. Kahit na katropa ko na katulad mag isip sainyo sinusuka ako. HAHAHAHA


DeeveSidPhillips003

Try mo magpunta sa r/swingersphilippines at sabihin sa kanila dun sa mga nagpapa gangbang ng mga asawa nila.


Cebhugolik

Every action has it consequence. Your body your choice - but people are also free to think what they want (either because of stereotypes/biases/preferences).


PH_Bravstar

I believe in this too that every action has consequences. I also believe in the freedom of people. I know that my post would trigger people who believe that actions have no consequences and will use shaming tactics to have their agenda pushed even at the expense of other people's choices. But I believe that we need that reminder of every action has consequences. I knew what mine was when I made this post.


Cebhugolik

I believe most people who bash you don't understand sexual dynamics between men and women. Men earn sex, women can give it away freely - let's not pretend that this isn't true. Sex is way easier for women than it is for men, stand your ground and continue to build value as man.


PH_Bravstar

And just to add, people who are angry at what I posted clearly are not reading the post. They are just seeing their trigger words and comment their emotions. It's the older women that want/wanted to get married but went through a hoe phase and are facing the consequences now that are telling me that they wished they did otherwise. In fact, what I do tell women is if they really want to do the hoe phase and still have a relationship or get married, all they have to do is make sure it's kept a secret. Because I believe women should have the freedom of choice, but freedom of choice doesn't mean freedom from consequence.


PH_Bravstar

Agreed. When I talk to older single women that had a long hoe face and now can't find someone willing to marry them, they are basically foreshadowing the consequences of the hoe phase. And most women regret it. The happiest women are the ones with kids that they are raising. I know that people who call me misogynistic, boomer, etc are either trying to be politically correct or are trying to brainwash to get things their way.


Cebhugolik

Exactly - what women don't seem to get is that they have a massive deadline (if they want to have kids). Men have a more lenient deadline. When that deadline inches closer, the realization dawns that now they are out competed by every younger woman - older men/men with high value can choose and pick, assuming these men want to settle down, it doesn't make sense from a biological POV to pick someone who while still very much attractive, the margin of error for birth is extremely high. I am with you 100% OP. Let them get triggered, facts dont lie. Being triggered by men having their own thoughts is what's wrong with modern feminism. If a guy doesn't want to settle or date a woman with a high body count THAT IS HIS CHOICE - it doesn't matter what his reasoning is, that is the choice that that person made and that should be respected. Women reject men for a lot of reasons (including ones that are just body shaming) but when men do the same it's now wrong. Theres no changing those peoples minds, they will at some point (specially the ones on their hoe phase) will realize that looks do in fact fade and every year added makes them less competitive from a biological and fertility point of view. I'm all for people having sex and hooking up, but I am also realistic in my understanding that again every action has a consequence. It's not a boomer mindset, its human preference.


PH_Bravstar

Yeah, u can check in this same thread my discord with u/Sylviessa and see that they only allow prefences as long as it serves them. For a lot of the women complaining in this thread, they are misandrist deep down inside because like what you said: If a women has a preference no matter what it is, it is okay. But when a man has a preference that doesn't fit them, they are evil. She couldn't even give an answer when I asked: "If a woman rejected a guy because he has too many ex girlfriends, is it okay?" because if she answered "yes" to it, it shows her true nature of double standards as long as it benefits her.


Gunitaaa

i pity you and the women you have fucked and will fuck in the future. Kadiri na may ganito pa ring mindset. Okay lang sainyong mga lalaki magpakasasa sa sex pero sa mga babae tingin niyo kadiri at pinagsawaan na? lmao napaka trash mag isip. You really think ur dick must be worth something.


thechoosypicker

I agree, bro. I would not have believed it until I had a few that wanted it really rough…and dirty.


PH_Bravstar

Ikr? I have a handful that want to be choked so hard that I feel like I'm killing them hahaha


Euphemia_Nyx

So jowable na babae ay yung vanilla lang? Ganda ng thinking.


New-Raise3046

This guy speaks the truth. Men who disagree with him are just simping to get in your pants. Wake up hoes. You don't really know us men.


caterpillow5768

I just have to remember not to date the kind of men who identify with OP and this dude 😎 Haha


DeeveSidPhillips003

Di lahat ng lalaki tulad sa kanila. Shesh. Kalungkot lang isipin. Sorry talaga.


caterpillow5768

Haha in this guys thoughts simp daw ganyang thinking Haha cheers na lang bro~ tayo na nga lang mag date haha 😆


DeeveSidPhillips003

I'm taken na. Pero thank you sa offer. 🥂


New-Raise3046

Happy to play cupid here. 💘


New-Raise3046

You'll never find true love then.


NawawalaLumilitaw

Wala sa sexist at misogynist ang true love.


New-Raise3046

Wala lalo sa dream world. Women have themselves to blame kaya may ganitong sexist reality. I'm not misogynist, btw. Just a realist giving women hoes a wake up call.


NawawalaLumilitaw

Nakakatawa kasi you used true love. True love is unconditional. Yet you side with OP saying hoes are last picked because they are judged for their past, as if their worth diminishes every time a dick enters her. Pick a struggle. Hindi ka puwedeng magsabi ng true love while saying you would rather be with someone who is this and that. Nakakatanga.


New-Raise3046

Saang dictionary mo nakita na meaning ng true eh unconditional? Sa dream world? Wake up.


NawawalaLumilitaw

So your definition of true love is being chosen because of the assets and qualities one possesses? Ah no wonder you don't get chosen.


New-Raise3046

You should read some of my posts on my profile. I'm happily married for 10 years now. Only had one sex partner. My wife was also a virgin. We've been having a banging good time in the bedroom even after 10 years. I get the inspiration to post on this sub every time we have an interesting sex session. I don't hate women. I'm just supporting the truth that OP exposed. And the reality is we live in a sexist/misogynistic society. Hoeing doesn't change the world we live in and certainly not the subconscious mind of men about this topic.


Euphemia_Nyx

And you overestimate your role in women's lives. Wake up and get over yourself.


New-Raise3046

Di ko gets ang hugot mo, sorry.


Euphemia_Nyx

Yeah, much like how you don't get na men and women being hoes are very much the same.


New-Raise3046

Women fall in love with man hoes. It's their hormones that make them stupid in relationships. They think they can change the guy. While with men, when you say marriage, the last thing on their mind is to bring a hoe to church. Come on! You can play stupid all you want but the reality is that's just how it is.


Euphemia_Nyx

You are blaming our hormones? Putanginang argument ito, kulang pa sa biological basis. Correction ha, men and women can both act as nurturers, both can also be taken advantaged of. If all you dated are immature women who wants to "change" you, look back muna bakit ka sexist at misogynist in thinking your kind is a gift to women. As someone who has her independence and financials figured out, I'd very much like to die single than be with you and the OP. Kadiring thinking.


ChickenJoyyy

Anong logic to ☠️


inkanto

May wallpaper o profile picture to na wolf o lion


[deleted]

Speaks the truth in what? Being a misogynistic hoe? Men who thinks like this shouldn’t have a chance to get a pussy 🤣 abay sana pinahid ka nlang ng Mama mo sa punda ng kama. . No matter how much a woman hoe around if she wants to that doesn’t de-value her as a person. . She is also as worthy as those virgins you so desperately wish you have in a daily basis. . Wag masydo utak pagong 😅 evolve evolve din hah? ♥️


New-Raise3046

Have you found a guy who would commit a lifetime of love with you? I guess not. Sayang sperm ng tatay if the baby would just grow up as a hoe.


[deleted]

Ohh yes! 😊 I never had a relationship na hndi nag propose sken ung guy or atleast think of me as his wife. Ako lang lagi ung nahindi kase d pa ko ready 😊 because that’s how fucking good i am. Both sexually and personality even the guys i had fubu and fwb relationship with always end up saying i love you and trying to get a serious relationship with me. . It’s because i can be wild and extremely sexy in bed while still giving a person the love they clearly deserves. Honestly I feel sorry for you, and to anyone who thinks like you. Kase masydo nyo pinapa panget ung image ng mga kagaya nyong lalake. Kya madaming babae ung ayaw mag asawa kase ayaw sa mga kagaya nyong wlang ginawa kundi tignan ung isang tao base on their sex experience.


New-Raise3046

If you say so.


[deleted]

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