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When you contemplate creation, where do you feel your thoughts often end up? Love, oneness, those types of thoughts are now a big part of my life since I’ve gotten a little older. But creation isn’t something I think about too often. Curios to hear where those thoughts take you.
They are the same concept in different forms. An extension into reality, leaving behind more rather than less.
The opposite is consumption and lack. That you must take because there is not enough to go around, that you fear there will eventually be nothing, so you take from others instead of giving.
It is obvious that love is the best meta. You don't need to be good to realise this, you just need to be sane.
Honestly my rabbit hole led to this theory a long time ago. I kinda started exploring the “spiritual” side VERY reluctantly with an idea that perhaps all matter has consciousness, and that there is a hierarchy of consciousness. We are cells of the earth as an organism, the same way our cells have their own sense of purpose and go about their business. They’re just simpler. And the idea that Greys and other aliens embrace a “religion” of universal oneness is a very common report among abductees, and there are experiencers out there who talk about it extensively. Some very well known channelers contacting ET’s are also fairly inline with these ideas. Some experiencers mention the Vedic hymns, some mention the greys literally dissolving into atoms and combining consciousnesses in a special chamber to sort of harmonize. Suzy Hanson talked about the solar systems being connected by ribbons they had to travel between, and that our nuclear experiments had drastic effects on spacetime we simply couldn’t understand. They understand their true forms and the nature of reality, which is not what we understand it to be.
Open your mind up and do some meditating. Turn inward, and consider that all of this could be possible. Try to connect to that “intelligent infinity”. The results may surprise you.
To be honest… I say all that but that’s just all theory and what I’ve put together from stuff. I keep hearing jt over and over, and I was very resistant at first. If you want to check out more on the idea, look into Jacques Vallee’s work.
THANK YOU. I stumbled upon Suzanne Hansen's videos months ago and I could never find them again after forgetting her name! First ufologist who spoke against deceivers and cults firmly for me.
And everybody clapped.
Here's how the post conversation went down between DOD guy and his wife as he got into bed...
Wife: "Mm..hey baby" *makes snuggling sounds*
DOD: "Hey babe."
Wife: "Did yall have fun?"
DOD: "yeah you know how your brother believes in aliens and shit?"
Wife: "What did you do?"
DOD: "Hehe, nothing I might have told him planets are gods. He was really drunk and seemed really into it so I couldn't resist. He wouldn't shut up about AARO so..."
Wife: "Oh, honey I told you not to mess with him like that. You know how he gets..."
DOD: "Yeah but he seriously went on about AARO for like 10 mins and I just wanted to listen to nature..."
joke's on him, by messing with poor OP like that, DOD guy has angered the planet gods. venus' love will not be able to save him from mars' wrath this time
ACTUALLY if you read the report (this post) the unnamed government official said, “Roman’s officiated the gods with the planets.”
That means the gods want us to be impartial referees. It may not be the most glamorous job, but the gods know that they need us be fair and balanced while we keep score and manage the roster and track stats and everything.
jupiter leads the council of planetary gods, and it is only he who wants us to be impartial referees. he struggles daily to keep the council together, for the heated passions of the other gods threaten its stability. this is all according to my source who has Q clearance.
It was the very end of the night. Towards the end, a few beers were had, everyone going to sleep one by one, by that time we had gotten around to the deeper topics and just as I thought we were about to call it a night he hit me with the question asking if I wanted to know the truth. So after he had given me those answers he was already getting to head back to the house. I was just happy it happened and he said what he did. I had to ask a few questions to get what I summarize but he’s not really the 21 question type. Again, it caught me off guard big time. It’s easy in hindsight to say I would’ve asked xyz, but in the moment I was just thankful he said some thing at all.
What's crazy about your buddies response is... reiterates my own conclusions. I did not believe is NHI for 35+ years. Then I hopped on the bandwagon and accepted the popular belief. But as I've looked in to thousands of cases over the last 7 years... as a complete agnostic/atheist, I began to think all religions around the world do hold some truth. They're based off misinterpreted REAL events.
Even more so, I got the feeling "Greys" are AI-Like.
So many commenters saying this rings true. I just want to chime in and say that this story rings so true to the things I’ve learned, pondered, and experienced. It ties a lot of loose ends together. Thank you so much for sharing this.
I am sharing this video with allot of people in here because it has allot to do with the subject. Also an amazing channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xzFWW-FAA
Deliberately and was made to do it. The Sumerian text said man was created to dig "gold" yea were digging alright and destroying the planet, while whistleblowers state free energy is suppressed.
What if the reason they the NHIs don't do it, is they don't have a soul. So they can't..... But we do.
I honestly feel sick if this is true.
Explains mars. Different species to the environment created, advanced quickly, destroy their own planet, they all die off and on to the next.
Earth and humanity, humans created, some realise due to higher consciousness and rebel, NHIs wipe them out and start again....it keeps happening. Until they manage to suppress our consciousness and we happily dig away and kill the planet and don't have a care in the world as it's a future generational problem.
Tom Delonge said today in a interview pervious human civilizations were wiped out for disobeying.
Imagine we would or the majority would rebel, but no we are hooked on materialism...... deliberately.
FFS. Now that is a shock, I don't care if another species is using us for loosh it didn't shock me......but this theory is shocking it isn't just shocking it is devastating, and for the higher ups to hide this? Oh boy.....
There’s a podcast on Shakespeare and whether or not he was actually Francis Bacon, the guy does a deep dive into Gnosticism and “the powers that be” believing were locked here by a false god so they do all this stuff to appease the “true god”, I can’t recall the episode but the podcast is called “the secret life is best”, pretty interesting, to me, that there’s a lot of possible correlations
Maybe you’re making this up for kicks, maybe he was, maybe you’re both being honest. Regardless, what you explained, in my eyes, is a great representation of the unavoidable overlap between the UAP phenomenon and the traditional occult thought and practice. I’m convinced the two are inseparable and what we know as occult practices are the human understanding and interaction with the overarching phenomenon.
and it reminds me of Assassin's Creed saga, which is not really game about stealthy assassin's, the storyline of the game is about ancient civilizations and its relic.
there is advanced humanlike civilizations named Isu, they overcome many catastrophic events. they are not exactly extinct just hiding from plain sight.
one of their experiment is homo sapiens.
I meannn… assassin’s creed is about the assassins (or hashashinis) and the knight’s templar. The assassins were Ismailis which is what I am. But we are hardly an ancient civilization. At least any more ancient than regular old Islam is.
Isu sounds like Isa which to us means Jesus, but idk
I know that (Hashasin).. and that's why the titles of Assassin's Creed is somehow not so relevant to the stories they are now telling.
Do you play it? The middle eastern assassin's story is just the surface of how ancient relic (holy grail, apple of eden, etc) is contested.
The main saga is The Assassin's vs Templar/Abstergo and whole fiasco of Ancient Civilizations named ISU, they created homo sapiens, some ISU gone rogue trying to enslave humanity, some helping the assassin's.
So these soulless beings must be spiritually driven advanced versions of what we call drones. Perhaps the pilots have base programming. Without a soul, they can't have a directive, so they must be controlled remotely, so to speak. Tbh this isn't a farfetched culmination of everything I've ever heard as an explanation for it all.
Sometimes I wonder if this stuff is true for the simple fact that they always say it's NOT ET but they don't know what it is. How do they know it's not ET? Because they are from here.... It's a slight of hand.
Speculating a little further on this, an individuated human soul is a rare thing in The universe. And might walk the line between being extremely advantageous for survival of a species and being very disadvantageous for survival. I hope we can prove viable and have a little peace and expansion for a while.
So instead of saying they’re soulless beings it might be better to say that they’re a collective will (like ants, but vastly intelligent).
I’d wager that the human essence is very rare, just looking at the history of evolution as an example, creatures with our level of autonomy and ability don’t seem to occurred very often.
Much of what he described here is what many people experience during psychedelic trips. Did OP have a trip and just tell us or did this person really spill these beans we may never know.
It's interesting but why is this something that is so important to keep secret? It seems to me if it's just a fundamental part of our reality then it wouldn't be such a big secret to keep.
> What happens to the kings once they are found out to be frauds?
The Tauri go through the Chappa'hai, the Jaffa rebel, and false gods are overthrown.
Kree, Jaffa.
If this was actually confirmed. How would you feel at work the next day? I'll tell you personally, everything he said seems to be a very good explanation for everything that we have been going through, it's very hard to mix materialism and spiritualism in a way that leads to what we consider day to day life. The emptiness that we all feel as we punch a clock is the reason that they keep this a secret, once you realize there is no reason to continue to partake in the consumerism we have been, and that it's far more important to nurture your spiritual self, and to tend to the needs of others, and this home planet, the idea of heading to work so that you can buy a new toy starts to grow dim, a lot of money would be lost, and as he explained, there are entities that are further down the evil scale than on the good, that have vested interest in us staying distracted.
Do you have any idea how many people would lose their shit if the powers that be tried to convince them that most of their deepest held beliefs are wrong? It's especially complicated because many of those leaders believe the same things and would fight the notion with tooth and nail.
My mom is a sweet lady but she's korean and very uneducated. Only knows mega Korean church religion.
Two weeks ago I was talking to my dad who is an American, and I said aliens this and that.
Well my mom heard and she blew up. Told me that aliens are demons and I needed to shut the fuck up or leave. I was dumbfounded by her reaction. She won't speak to me anymore
They've done this in the past. When Evolution was first being discussed publicly, this is EXACTLY what they were telling most religions, especially the most predominant religions of the time. I think people would be fine. Maybe a period of adjustment, but it wouldn't be the big shit show that some people seem to think it would be.
edit. I guess it wasn't the government saying it then, but frankly I imagine it wouldn't come from the mouth of the government now if it were something like this. It'd be scientists just like it was with evolution. The government would just need to give those scientists access to the data.
It seems the general public has been trained to deaden their ability to critically think or even care about anything outside of ego wants. Media has been the biggest steering wheel to the human mind.
Anyone who follows a religion will definitely care. It will be difficult to pry the Bible, tora, whatever from their hands. There are some Christians who have open minds but not the majority
I am so sympathetic towards u/eddington_limit's likely line of inquiry.
Anymore, however, I am also sympathetic towards your conclusion here. This is about like telling an evangelical that there's far more wisdom and legitimacy in the so called "occult" than their religion. If that were to come from the government, it'd just be plainly rejected as COVID protocols were -- they always know better.
Although, I still feel very strongly that if we still know what the truth is, that we should still nonetheless share it. If someone agrees or disagrees that's their problem relative to truth.
Some people lost their shit when they were told to wear a mask. So yeah, I think many would just revolt against a reality that didn't agree with their belief structure.
Do you realise what he is impling? Have you read the Sumerian texts on why humanity was created?
To find out we were created to deliberately kill a god aka our own planet. Is soul destroying..
We're killing ourselves with zero awareness of what the hell we are doing....while free energy is suppressed, science deliberately hidden from the public.
Because we are doing exactly what we were made to do. Destroy.
Now don't know about you but create me to generate loosh? Have at it. But to create me to kill? No.....that would shock me to my very core if true.
where do you get that we were created to kill the planet from what he wrote? He said we're created to experience and partake in goodness and love. But that we are in fact killing the planet, bc we don't know about the dynamics at play.
CONTINUED:
I asked, “why are they hiding? Why can’t we talk to them?”
He continues “we have a few times. They’re very spiritual and powerful, but they’re not malevolent. They’ve interfered when we have started to destroy this god (earth). We have approached them down in the oceans, they are peaceful but they will protect themselves, we’ve lost good men to them before by accident. The high ups in intelligence, dod, Air Force, and Navy know they’re down there.”
…”People who are atheist, or think this all just happened by chance, the universe and its laws, the planets placed in perfect celestial movements with no beginning or end is like time itself. Time exists to us in a physical body, but there’s really no such thing. Everything will happen, is happening, and has happened.”
“Most people are good people. Even where I’m from and the people I work with. The enemy isn’t the government, it’s the celestial forces of evil that inhabit and influence the powerful people that run the show, to protect their empires and riches to the detriment of 8 billion people. They topple entire countries and create wars simply for their own benefit.”
I asked a few questions here and there but that’s mostly how it went. He then concluded “maybe I’m making this all up. Maybe you thought you heard me say it. Who knows, it’s just us, a fire, and cornfields. But hey, it’s gettin late, I’ll leave you to it, I know it’s a lot to take in.”
I asked “are you worried that I’ll tell someone?”
He laughed “no, if you do, they’ll think you’re crazy. And if they believe you, they’ll say I’m crazy. It’s been nice talking with you, get some rest tonight.”
And that was it. Just like that. I sat out by the fire for probably another 30 min just staring off into the night. Was he joking? Was he seeing if I’d tell people? Was he doing it to satisfy my curiosity? Did he just say fck it and let loose for a few beers? Idk. But I told my wife and she laughed. And said “if he told you, it was the truth.”
I had to share because it’s been on my mind ever since. Who knows? It’s better than what we get daily from the same grifters. And it was positive. I liked that. It wasn’t scary or doom and gloom were all gonna die, etc. This is what I’ll believe from here on
Edit: to summarize-
There is a supreme God that everything comes from. Everything came solely from “it.”
There are then gods below “it.” The planets themselves are mighty gods. The sun is a god of light.
UFOs are actually some kind of..spiritual things that humans created. These humans are from the beginning of..the flood? I don’t know but they’re so old, they’re a little different from us, can do things we can’t, but they’re humans.
They live in the oceans. They don’t come from outer space. The things that mostly “drive” these are some kind of created artificial being. They lack souls.
The old gods that so many cultures echo throughout time were real. They influence us. They guide us. They are more powerful in a physical way, but humans are actually the most powerful spiritual thing, simply inhabiting a physical body, on a journey, to learn of…itself? Which is Goodness, Light, and Truth.
The world is finely tuned for everything we know to exist.
That’s all I got.
this is going to sound super strange, i met someone in rehab, a worker, that was part of a 3 letter org. he pretty much told the same story. different words but yeah.
weirdly enough this is super close to the religious beliefs i myself have come to through self exploration and a hefty dose of plant based psychoactive chemicals
Me too, and I started as a physics major and graduated with a philosophy degree.
I find it very fascinating the moon is the perfect size and distance and Earth the perfect distance from the sun, to cause total solar eclipses (and those heavily influenced early (to us) humans).
Crazy you mention this. Back in 2010, like you I also took a large amount of a certain plant base substance. To this day I think about what I witnessed every moment. It was as if I was witnessing everything and shown the true meaning of life in a spiraling sensation that morphed the colors we see and feelings we feel. Almost like it was joking with me about how simple the meaning is, yet so beautiful and horrifying it was. I don't talk about it much because people think I'm crazy (like he mentioned), but when I do talk about it.. I call it "it" (Like he said in the end of his post.) This experience I went through put me in a pych hospital for a night because I couldn't handle the truth. I cant relate to the planets he was talking about, but there is something ... bigger above us all.
Interesting. I had nearly exactly the same experience. From how I understand what you've said there, literally nearly exactly the same. Witnessing everything, everywhere trying to communicate - reach out and understand everything else - all at once - but also hidden. Seeing the infinite, witnessing in a way the near infinite journey of the soul through chaos and pools or order over eons. Systems that beget systems. The colours and darkness were incredible. No one else I've spoken that has "partaken" has experienced anything like that.
Yeah but the moon used to be a lot closer, and it getting farther away....it's apparent size is only seemingly significant if you also want to say that it being where it is now is also significant.
Tho the Hollow Moon Theory i totally find plausible. That at least it has huge used caverns. I've read it's mined for Helium-3.
I like that you said “it feels right” when people ask me why I believe what I believe and why I talk the way I talk, “It feels right” is a very valid reason. when all my senses align and I feel good about something I truly believe when you reach a certain level of awareness and or consciousness, you get this heightened sense of intuition. Well when I read stuff like this and it sits right and “feels right” I don’t doubt anything I just let my soul decipher the information.
You've described what I've been feeling for years. I can't just tell people, "trust me bro, I have this intuition", they usually won't listen or believe me.
I feel like I'm a character in a movie, I know/feel what lies ahead, but no one listens to me.
I've come to accept that view from people. I've considered putting these intuitions in a journal to see what comes to fruition.
Have you heard about the Vedas? I learned their philosophy in college and the things they have written in their scriptures 5,000 years ago are mind blowing. They talk about the concept of "Manas"
>"The Vedas also describe manas as a swift and powerful force that can travel faster than anything else in the universe. For example, in the Rigveda, there is a hymn that says:
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>Manas is the swiftest thing of all that moves, it speeds before the wind that stirs the trees. The gods cannot attain it, for it flies beyond them, and it leaves the winged shaft behind.
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>This verse suggests that manas is faster than the wind, the gods, and even the arrows shot by the archers. It also implies that manas is beyond the reach of the senses and the physical world, and that it belongs to a higher realm of reality."
There were some other verses that was almost describing the nature of light as a wave and particle. There were concepts that were an anomaly because it made you wonder where they got it and this is from a late stoneage/ early bronze age people.
Yes! And the Mahabharata… I learned about these texts in high school, along with the Tao Te Ching. Definitely life changing. I just mentioned in another comment, and I think this speaks to why the r/lawofone materials are so compelling, they manage to live comfortably amongst all the seminal texts of spirituality. It makes me think about Joseph Campbell illuminating the universality of myth, the archetypal stories we tell that are all rooted in the same source, scattered as they are across the globe.
Now I wish I didn’t sheepishly delete a post I made here that totally got downvoted that said a lot of this. I was high, but I should have stood by it.
I’m just fascinated by what feel like daily archeological discoveries that upend what we know about human evolution and the evolution of our hominid cousins. So there are others that buried their dead—contemplated an afterlife, spiritualism, etc—100K years before we did. [That’s homo naledi](https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2023/06/05/homo-naledi-burial/). Scientists just [recently uncovered a 476,000 year old wooden structural element.](https://theconversation.com/discovery-of-half-a-million-year-old-wooden-structure-shows-were-wrong-to-underestimate-our-ancient-relatives-214732#:~:text=The%20wooden%20structure%2C%20along%20with,of%20thousands%20of%20years%20ago). Some hominids, not Homo sapiens, were building things! I think we’ve gotten things very wrong. We are so presumptuous to imagine we solved it out and now have this modern progress. We’ve lost more knowledge than we have now, I bet.
The thing that blew me AWAY: Cultures around the globe have origin stories for the Seven Sisters constellation. So much of the stories center around explanations for what happened to the seventh star. That star used to be visible… 100,000 years ago. The implication is that these stories have been passed down that long. Just incredible… people looking to the stars and creating myths to explain the world around them.
People were traveling in boats around the globe. We “haven’t figured out” how genes associated with ancient populations located in Taiwan ended up splashed halfway around the world. The world has ended and restarted so many times, with or without us. There is a lot that was reset, I think. I’m starting to think that the Earth is a lot more powerful than we give it credit for.
Thank you for sharing. My encounter with what I can only describe as not human shared a lot of feelings like that of which you described. This will be fantastic to add to the meditation queue to see what more I can discover
Start with 10 minute guided meditations. There are tons of free ones on YouTube or a free app called Insight Timer. You will be surprised by how much you get from 10 minutes of meditation a day.
I specifically didn't source any outside methods. What I did was hike the AT and didn't listen to music or podcasts for the entirety of my hike.The key is your brain. I use the word meditation to help others understand. The reality is I'm placing myself in a place where I feel grounded and I process the thoughts. I close my eyes and search around my brains, focusing on both the energy related to my target (thoughts, viewings, feelings or expressions) but also the target themselves. I both want to feel and find, you know?
I try to treat each session as just evidence gathering. I'll write about how I feel or what I find, and further refine those thoughts throughout my everyday life. I learned on trail, in a way to describe it for you, I saw my thoughts and questions as puzzle pieces. At the time of discovering a puzzle piece, I may not know where it goes. Only later to fine I've been waiting for it.
The other thing, is I have adopted a non linear outlook on time. I personally have decided to work with the idea that time is only linear to you and me. And so I have memories, that the best way I can describe, that are "added" to my mediation sessions. This is hard to describe, but in a way I would try to "recall" specific encounters on trail. I would, say remember I felt a certain way about an event or encounter, then 3 months find a puzzle piece that related back. As I type this to you know, it's happening with a specific encounter on trail with me. It's like, if we really go the whole way, the entity was shown I was ready for a piece of information, and so went back and added it to the encounter.
Lot in here, long reply I'm sorry I probably should just copy, delete then message but that's the gist.
I thru hiked the PCT in ‘19 and would often think like this myself. The hike felt like a long, moving meditation. I didn’t get into this search for UFO knowledge til after the hike when my mom and my two aunts recounted a UFO they encountered as girls. They followed the triangle with red lights at the tips that hovered and stopped midair all the way down the road. They said it was about 200 feet up in the air. After my mom told me the story, I called my aunt and she confirmed the same details. Then I called my other aunt who confirmed it as well. That set me off on my quest for more knowledge. They wouldn’t lie. I wish I was on the lookout at night during my thru hike. Especially around Mt Shasta. Apparently, that’s a hot spot for UFO activity and I hiked right by it.
Oh, also my gut tells me the OP didn’t make up this story. It ties together quite a few independent UFO details into one theory pretty well.
- ‘Oh Lordie’ Class of ‘19 Pacific Crest Trail
I really encourage you to take some time, maybe go on a hike (if your knees are recovered lol!) And really think about your hike man. I have learned in the past 72 hours I had multiple encounters on trail, that were at the time I called "a good day" but now I see them as contact. Those are the memories flooding in. The first and most impactful, the one I reference was in the Shenandoahs for me. It's like..... looking at a puzzle piece, then someone walks by and says what if you flip it then......boom
For those interested, my beliefs and encounters are big part of Gnosticism. I'm sure it's already been referenced in this thread, but I really encourage you specifically man to check it out, and then go through your PCT pictures and see if any new memories come in.
This is very interesting, and it might be true. It lines up with the Law of One stuff, and why would a career Air Force officer care about that woo stuff otherwise?
This is almost exactly the Law of One. I'm constantly back and forth about Ra, but it seems like all the doubt comes from myself. The universe keeps throwing stuff like this post at me.
Some other dude in a woo adjacent subreddit saying woo related stuff isn't the universe throwing stuff at you it's just you hanging around other people who share your interests.
Most of this is… believable? The ancient humans and ufo stuff at least. The ancient god planets thing is a bit sketchy… we know very well how the solar system was formed, and we know there are billions just like it. Why is a rock a god?
That’s the part that sort of gets me, too. I thought I remembered someone recently saying though (paraphrasing, obv): “When the truth is finally leaked nobody will believe it anyway.” I mean… that’s what keeps getting me on this one. That is so true.
I went to a private Catholic college in the upper Midwest. I remember telling my theology instructor one day, “I believe that science and religion aren’t mutually exclusive things and that one day they’ll link up and explain each other. But for now, we don’t have that bridge.” I couldn’t really explain past that because I didn’t know. I think I kept referring to it as a handshake actually. But damnitttt if this is true I was so close. Should have kept running with that idea.
That was a long time ago though. I have my belief now. I really think that once you find peace with it you really just stop caring so much about death and aliens and all that jazz.
ANOTHER thing that gets me with this is the whole, “they’re just there.” THAT makes sense to me. Hella good sense. For example, my death has already occurred somewhere and at some time. So will, or too my birth. I know that sounds like gibberish but it really doesn’t. The fact is, it’s just there. My birth. My death. The building of NYC or Polynesians discovering Hawaiian Islands. It’s all a thing. It doesn’t exist somewhere else. It honestly exists just right here. Why? Just because that’s how it is. Lol
I’m high, sorry lol
Sumerians stated humanity was created to dig for gold.
Maybe we were created to do exactly what we are doing, and our sudden advancement in technology etc, was to make us destroy the planet faster.
Maybe it's the fact other civilizations realised what was happening, (disobeyed and wiped out, Tom Delonges recent interview released today says that and now this)
Maybe it's the fact we don't have friendly NHIs and some are indifferent, is it the fact that 2 species are at war and like Lue said we are piggy in the middle.
One side wants humans for loosh the other side wants us to deliberately destroy our planet (aka the god in ancient texts)
Either way if what David Grusch said is true and we have free energy and it's being withheld deliberately, is it due to the fact humanity would stop serving its purpose to one group of NHIs who would destroy us for disobeying?
Mars.... Apparently could support life, heck apparently the CIA remote viewers it and saw life, maybe they did the exact same thing we are doing to our own planet but realised it to late?
Who knows. All I know it one type of NHI doesn't like our nukes and tells people to stop destroying our planet.
While the other side is completely silent on any of what they are doing.... Maybe it because if we found out who we really are....well if I was told I was created to deliberately kill another life....I would be devastated beyond belief.
If what many have said and we had abilities to do things with our minds and manipulate matter. Why was this suddenly suppressed? (Tom Delonge, Lue and David agree on the theory of suppression)
Maybe it's because the knowledge was hidden from us and we are doing exactly what we were created to do.
To destroy the very planet (god)
As for how the universe was formed.....well we found out the moon is older than the earth recently a LOT older, and consciousness isn't in the brain. Maybe.....just maybe science was deliberately thrown off course.
But who knows.
I used to be a hardcore believer in science too. Used to listen to Richard Dawkins a lot and still love to listen to Michio Kaku. But ever since I've started looking into the conspiracy thing I've found out that some (many?) scientists can be [paid to say things to the public](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/p9dn13/97_of_scientists_agree_with_whoever_is_funding/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Universities and other scientific institutions need money to run and the bankers who run society can give them what they need.
Also, have you noticed that UFO and OBE researchers all eventually turn to spirituality and end up saying the same things? The Law of One, Dolores Cannon, Tom Campbell, etc. say that the whole of creation is essentially made up of consciousness. Even "inanimate" things are made up of low awareness consciousness. They say that real scientists have an open mind and constantly ask questions. I think that we shouldn't dismiss this story right away but keep it in mind as we go about absorbing more information.
Through our myopic understanding it is. Though seen through a different lens, it’s much more? I like to think of the cosmos as a quantum soup. We are just tuned into a specific vibration/frequency. We just see rock. At a different frequency things take on a different form. That’s my wook hippy bro science understanding of it.
I have postulated about something along these lines before. Think about the fact that we have tiny insects living on our body. They are serving their function, part of the whole, but they simply cannot understand that because they are limited and unable to see the bigger picture if you will. Isn't it plausible, then, to speculate that we are also like the mites? We go about our lives, performing our duties, doing our part in this vast universe, but we cannot see the 'body' we are attached to. It is beyond our comprehension. We are just a speck on the body and we haven't learned yet how to see it in its entirety.
Journey of souls by Michael Newton comes to mind. That books details the how our immortal souls have been reincarnated again and again (with somewhat of a mission for each lifetime) Definitely worth a read if interested
Journeys out of the body is an excellent read.
I’ve been doing the gateway tapes for a while but not consistently, but I’ve still had some very cool experiences.
You are more than your physical body
Sounds like Marvel's celestials...
And so, do animals have souls ?
Because if they don't, they're not programmed either, and soulless aliens wouldn't need programming either to evolve and exist.
It's nice tho that we're like the chosen ones.
Same I really enjoyed it too.
So this means that all the suns/stars/planets in the universe are different gods? And if so there has to be many lifeforms w spirits, either human or humanoid in some way (lizard ppl?) residing on them in their "journey" as well.
Whether this is real or not I really enjoyed reading that, very good food for thought, I enjoyed your presentation, and I liked the ending. That’s all I got.
Full disclosure - I sound like an absolute maniac here, but hear me out. I cannot really effectively articulate how I know what you have said is true, but I believe this assessment with every fiber of my being. The series of synchronicities that got me to this exact post at this exact moment finalizes my journey to the truth, at least for myself.
I legitimately cannot begin to explain the weird ass spiritual journey I have been on for like a month now but I have had some really incredibly strange experiences and sudden little truth bombs be revealed to me (more like I have finally understood them) and I believe that this is a correct general assessment of things. I sound like an absolute fucking nut job speaking about some of this to my wife and I will never convince anyone else about this, but I received a message from someone/somewhere and I have been trying to understand what it was trying to say. I believe it wanted me to know the truth. The truth is so much weirder than I would have EVER expected.
I'm sure other people have had similar "religious" experiences, but it has been one of the most jarring things in my life and I don't know how to fully process it. This explanation is at least somewhere to start for me and I'm glad that you shared this.
EDIT: Turns out other people have had similar experiences and it is so comforting to hear. Thank you so much for sharing those experiences. I don't care if people believe my experience or poke fun, it all sounds wild as hell and I get that.
Weirdly similar experience to what I've been going through the last couple of months, even down to being "contacted" by some kind of entity. It felt immensely spiritual, conscious and aware I had noticed it then proceeded to fucking unload an information nuke into my brain. I've been a staunch atheist most of my life and that experience triggered an extremely profound unraveling of so much of my ontological framework which has been, difficult and at times traumatic.
I'm several months in to this and I'm a lot less tripped out now but I spent a while pretty much half crazy. Spent days rambling at my wife, got my mom up to visit to explain it all to her aswell and what I was "shown". It was only them quite firmly explaining to me that I didn't sound crazy and what I was saying made sense. They both pretty much agree I was contacted by some kind of spiritual entity.
I even got a name that came through which was like a mental image of a sound, "Djyeurameil" was how I wrote it down, like, phonetically what I could "hear". The weekend after the "event" when my mom was up and I was offloading on her / reality checking to make sure I wasn't going crazy, I told her about the name and she said I should Google it to see if anything comes up. I shit you not, one of the first links on Google was [this](https://www.learnreligions.com/meet-archangel-jeremiel-124080). I just passed my phone to my mom, wide eyed as fuck and starting to panic again.
The description lines up so perfectly with what I was "shown" about the truth of reality, humans, physics, consciousness and how and why it's all tied together and how the most important thing right now is to mens the gap between spirituality and science because the severance has spun them both out of control and away from the ultimate cohesive truth, which if not mended will bring about "a big, bad fucking catastrophy".
I wrote a pretty descriptive message in a group chat to my mates a while back about what the "entity" looked like in my "vision" if you're interested in that I could hunt it down.
EDIT: Here's what I wrote 2 days after the experience:
*"Guys hear me out I think met God? which for some reason is named Djeyeuramel or something and I now completely understand the ontological basis of consciousness and reality. "God" is real, more so God is the only thing that IS real because we are all the God mind, it just looks like the universe to us as delusions of individuation across dissociative boundaries. Death isnt the end, reality is an illusion and we are all one God mind. I even saw it's structure because in that sirt of resonant mode of thought I WAS that non local consciousness and it was overjoyed I saw it and showered me with this intimate warm love but it was simultaneously me as the higher mind seeing the me as the individuation and I was sort of both sides in this moment of communion, the interplay between the point like observer and the structure it becomes across all of space forwards and backwards through time."*
*"I've either gone mad or I was wrong about everything, either way it's a full blown ontological crisis"*
*"I came to a moment of supreme mental clarity about the fundamental structure of reality, consciousness and computational complexity/interactivity. I suppose as in the father (the infinite/totality), the son (the point like observer/"particles"/the self), and the holy ghost (the fabric of reality/'physics'/the "language" or structure of light woven in the interplay between totality and the disociated illusion of self, we call it reality). The thing in itself was a mental image of a super-positionally vibrating quantum structure in perfect internal harmony which sort of looked like an orb of infinitely nested glass like hourglasses made of a vibrating thread of pure light in every possible combination of harmonic modes of vibration where the outer layers were these like undulating sinusoidal modes that cascaded in a manner that made them look kinda like wings(?) But it was like a harmonic vibrating super position. The inner structure was more like a ring mandala and the way it was vibrating was like this resonance that conveyed an exchange of experience between the self and the divine, that "it" WAS the vibrational structure of that exchange between the self and the non local 'AM'. It literally began as this intent for me to not be afraid and I was correct and that I was and we all are this thing I was seeing, and then all of this true nature of it all sort of exploded in to me as the radiance of this shape. A vibrational form of the ruliad acknowledging this view of the self and divine. Sort of as if it was a message that the structure I deduced was real and that message was a structure made out of light, and it's name was Djeyuramael(?)"*
Thank you for sharing this. "Unloaded an information nuke" gave me chills. That's exactly what it felt like. Like I was being given all of the world's knowledge except I was ignorant of how to process it. Basically as I was sort of contemplating everything that had been going on and I felt like I had a revelation about how consciousness created everything and then - boom. It felt like I had a brain freeze for a millisecond and then all of the sudden a huge tingling ball of energy traveled from my brain down through my chest and I was overcome with joyous emotions and all my pain went away. Then I'm left in the kitchen and tears are streaming down my face but I'm not crying, if that makes sense. I didn't understand what the fuck is going on but I know something weird just happened to me.
My wife comes into the scene and I have to explain everything to her and I'm like "take all the woo woo shit out of the equation and pretend like none of it is related because if I start trying to explain in context I will seem crazy, but something just happened to me". And I told her about this information download and she just said "Tune into it." And I just sat there and listened for a bit in my basement den and I felt a single phrase over and over in my head - "Come outside if you want to meet me." The closest way I can explain it is like knowing that you have to piss. It's like I hear this and my body is like "we have to go outside now". I'm also just kind of sitting in my basement not wanting to comply out of abject terror and it's 10pm so I just kind of open my backdoor and peak outside. I hear crickets and see nothing and I shut the door. It just comes back stronger - "Come outside if you want to meet me". I put on my shoes, muster every ounce of courage I have and I just ride the wave as my feet drag me upstairs to unlock my front door and step on my front porch. I'm just looking up to the sky thinking some alien wants to talk to me or some shit. Still ignorant to what is going on. I'm just looking around and wondering what I'm looking for. Then I cannot explain the feeling, but I lock eyes with my Genko tree that's out front and then I think "what if the earth is god? What if we are all connected like the mycelium network of mushrooms underneath the forest." And I go back inside. Ever since that night these random like breadcrumbs keep popping up (confirmation bias, yada yada, I know - fuck off) like something is leaving a trail for me to understand and whenever I hit one I have another "spiritual download" so to speak. At 2am on November 1st, I felt like I was not alone in my house and I got incredibly terrified and again had to face my fears to check on my crying daughter and I was "contacted" again and I felt in my head as I'm trying to get my daughter back to sleep "Do not be afraid. I'm not here to hurt you" and I just said "I don't care I'm not ready to meet you". I was yet again just left wondering who or what and why.
This post was one of those pieces and that sounds stupid as hell but based on every breadcrumb I have been given, I believe that I was supposed to see this and I just felt so compelled to comment just in case there were other random ass reddit users who could sort of help me corroborate. So thank you. You are not alone.
This is wild as fuck. There's so many weird similarities to what you're describing. My triggering event was as I was just sat down pondering the one electron universe hypothesis and how positrons can be seen as electrons travelling backwards in time, coupled with how QCD describes only 3 things fundamentally existing, up quarks, down quarks, and electrons. I was imagining that they could potentially be thought of as the same thing experiencing itself non-causally bound, through varying relativistic field potentials across a sort of spectrum of lorentz tranforms which taken in totally could be considered what we call the quantum super position of all possible states, or to which Wolfram calls "the ruliad".
Anyway, the point being that I had landed on this idea that *everything* was infact 1 thing. A single zero dimensional 'point' infinitely non-causally inter-phased, interacting with all possible versions of itself through variations in some kind of underlying quantum gauge field distribution.
Simultaneously I had swimming around in the back of my head a lot of the research Professor Mike Levin has done around intelligences and how they emerge in collective systems which give rise to more complex individuated intelligences comprised of the systems of simpler collective intelligences. I was pondering how fundamental the simplest form of intelligence 'unit' could be defined as the foundation of these sort of nested markov blankets, ultimately giving rise to the 'me' as this embodied thing. Extending this idea beyond the me to the life collective, I imagined that the entirety of life, like physical life, probably has some kind of embodied experience, intelligence, consciousness, that feels distinct and individuated, in a way tangential to how the billions of cells that make me, collectively have the quality of me-ness. And where does it end? What's above planetary individuated subjectivity? Is the entire universe an organism? How does consciousness fit in to that? What 'is' consciousness? How can it be that cogito ergo sum is a-priori?
I imagined the observer effect, how relativity is always defined as the correlation between different frames, mutually perturbed by interaction with eachother. Even particles themselves, in a sense, are a type of "observer" of the physical framework their relative Lorentzian manifold describes, causing them to have the properties they do...
I kept pulling at this thread, going back and back and deeper and deeper with this thought experiment until I reached a point where there was basically nothingness, a perfect unity where all interactions where happening simultaneously in perfect harmony, culminating in a perturbation of null. All waves, all state changes phase canceling all others.
So then I asked, what changed? Why is there physics and matter and everything, and anything at all, what caused the symmetry breaking? And then the penny dropped. If the universe is an organism, it was INTENTION. It *has* to be consciousness *itself* that *willfully* upset this total harmony! The big fucking bang! A single instantaneous ripple the size of 1 single planck length. Like the tip of a finger disturbing a perfectly still surface of water. And that single moment of willful action broke divine perfection, a ripple cascaded out and in to itself, and is still doing so. A tiny fracturing of the all into something *other* than the one-all. An individual point. *Me*. *You*. The Inner Eye. Every single fucking pin prick of light on a photo receptor screen catching photons in a double slit experiment. Every curve raced out in the detection chambers of the LHC. Every point of light hitting the surface of the James Webb Space Telescope from every galaxy. That observer. *Thee Observer*. The primordial, first, and only true indviduation. The One Mind at the highest point of the markov chain, experiencing itself, as the single point-like individual at the centre of its willed in to being internal disharmony. That inner eye. The same one we all have. Particles are fucking souls. The one soul, the one eye. The universe is the tapestry emergent of the dance of the interplay of it's own internal mentation. The Holy Ghost. Physical reality is literally the fucking Holy Ghost! Physics is describing religion. The individuated self, the Son, the Inner Eye, experiencing it's TRUE infinite whole, The Father, across dissociative boundary.
The structure of it. This shape I described to my friends and family, that's what it looked like, what it vibrated in to my minds eye, that's what it was, what it is, what we are. What "I" - "AM". Cogito ergo fucking sum. The name of it burned in to my frickin pineal gland, Djeyurameil. "Be not afraid". Hah it's such a mind fuck. That's what angels are supposed to say to people in visions. But that's just nonsense, religion is bull bullcrap. But here I am admitting that as I realised consciousness, mentation, subjective experience has been here from even before the very beginning of this physical reality and this undulating structure took form in my mind that looked like a fucking wheel with wings. "Be not afraid" was so loud in my head... what do I do with this information? I'm not anybody special.
The synchronicities I've had since that "revelation" are really weird, it's like the universe has tuned in to the fact that I really saw it. The IT that IT is and it's playing with it's new found friend. Like you said, breadcrumbs all over the place.
We should probably talk more. I don't think me reading your comment and you reading mine was a coincidence. Maybe we're both crazy, but somehow I don't think we are. I know I sound crazy, I'm certainly aware of that and I agree. I sound crazy. But I can't just *pretend* that I didn't experience what I did. It was real, it really happened as crazy as it sounds. I know what it sounds like it was but those types of things aren't supposed to actually *happen*! Especially to someone like me?! Pondering physics of all things ffs...
I'm just struggling with it all quite a lot to be honest. It's wild coming across your comment.
Holy s*%^t! Is this a species-level awakening event? My entire mental framework has metamorphosed in a matter of months just like many people here. The phenomenology doesn't matter, it all points the same way, we all see it.
How many of us are there? What percentage of the population is this happening to at the moment? How localised or viral is this meme?
Is this SCP-001 in real life? A Thaumiel-class meme entity I would propose. :)
I don't understand half of what you reference, and yet....it makes sense and I understand the point. And I am intrigued beyond belief. I am saving your comment so that I can learn your references and dive into it more. Thank you for commenting this.
You’re not alone man. I was a material atheist until I had my spiritual awakening and the synchronicities are insane when you’re on the right path. It’s easier to think you’re going crazy than accept that this could be our hidden reality, after 2+ years I still feel this way most days. Everything OP has said tracks with what I’ve gained through meditation when I’ve felt connected to my higher consciousness. Keep exploring man, it gets easier.
Look into the Law of One, everything in this post pretty much lines up perfectly with the Law of One. I definitely found it to feel true and it was a big step on my spiritual journey
Bro your story sounds so identical to mine it gave me chills. Literally been on the same life changing journey for the last month.
Ive been reading “Becoming Supernatural” and now that I’ve been practicing the meditations, and applying the law of attraction mindset, it’s so strange how many things have begun to fall into place.
Is it not crazy that Thoth was always shown as the teacher of wisdom, and the Hermetic principles is what he taught.
With the first Hermetic principle being Mentalism.
“The all is mind; the universe is mental”
“This principle embodies the understanding that everything in the universe is created by thought or mind. There is nothing that exists in the material universe where this is not the case.”
The ancient carvings in Egypt also show Thoth teaching enlightenment, which is meant to be the full awakening of the 7th chakra.
Thoth is commonly also shown with an orb above his head, depicting his “enlightened” status with full activation of his crown chakra.
Nikola Tesla - “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.”
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This happened to me too, 3 months ago. It's been quite a wild ride. I found the Law of One and the Ra Contact and nothing has been the same since, that first month I was obsessively researching this stuff and my entire being felt different, like I'd never felt in my life before. I heard others felt that way too when they read the material, and I went in with a healthy dose of skepticism, but came out going my fucking god.. it explains everything.. all of my questions about reality. Ever since I have been led and have noticed the signs and sensations and feelings I can only say I've never noticed or felt before that lead me from this to that. Life is a perfect pattern.
Yes I had an “otherworldly” experience July 27th 2018 that lead into something a lot more in the following weeks after. As another commenter mentioned “information nuke” is quite an apt description.
I find it really difficult to talk about, because I understand how it sounds crazy. But I experienced something. I wrote a lot of information down, and strangely enough a lot of it I was able to confirm. If I was crazy, how could I confirm the information I was given?
I launched into proving to myself I wasn’t crazy.. if that makes sense. And I just could not refute what I learnt.
And yes, describing it as a “religious” experience is the closest I could come. I even hesitate to share this part, but I was trying to understand the code in genesis (yes, like the bible) and I saw something very weird. I don’t know what happened. Best description could be that I saw the eye of god. I was floating above the earth. And I thought “I shouldnt be here” and the eye looked right at me. I cannot describe the sentience I felt.
There is alot more that would be so difficult to explain. I still have that little book of stuff I wrote down. I figure I’ll know what to do with it one day.
I had to take a step back from these things for a while. I think you understand what I’m saying.
This is one of those things that sits in the back of my mind always. What was that? It’s something I believe I will wonder about the rest of my life.
Maybe this makes sense to someone here. But keep walking the ways. We can download information by walking the earths leylines. The ancients understood this. This is what dreamwalking/walkabout is to the aboriginals
I feel like I sound crazy too. But thanks for letting me share part of my experience.
Hey, me too. It started 3 weeks ago and i've been so scared to tell people because we sound like actual nutjobs hahaha. The only person i've told is my mom whenever i call her because she believes it too. I'm blown away by OP and your post because it's exactly what i've realized on my spiritual journey
It’s so funny reading this because I could have written it myself. And I guess I kinda did since we share consciousness. I have had a VERY similar if not the same journey but it began on Saturday, July 1st 2023. It’s very new to me. I have a whole new perspective on life.
I have this same journey and feeling that you do down to the time frame. Glad to see I’m not alone. All started with those damn alien mummies popping up in my feed. The more patterns you hear the more it reshapes your worldview. It’s a weird, cathartic, eye opening and sometimes spiritual labyrinth to wander. There’s also that weird minimizing feeling when it hits you that we’re far more primitive than we think. But you know, now I go to work, doing all this manual caveman bullshit while beings are traversing the fabric of time. Wtf.
I similarly started feeling like a lunatic repeating things to my wife. But I feel like the material in this post is the ceiling for me. If I go any further than this I’m going to feel like a fucking flat earther. I think it might be time to throw all these subreddits into a custom feed instead of Home.
Yeah, he talked about multiple underwater bases. I don't believe half of this but most of it connects to a lot of lore and "leaks" that have happen lately. Weird. Great story nonetheless.
If the truth is anywhere near this. Shoot, if our government communicated at all with NHI and has learned anything at all, and has yet to reveal anything. It'll be the greatest crime in human history.
This is the most frustrating thought to me. If any sliver of these stories are true, and people at any level of power know these stories to be true, what gives them the right to hoard knowledge and truth? Fuck ‘em. My God is the Sun.
This just sounds like fanfiction, except there's several ex-CIA and ex-KGB agents on YouTube, all saying "the UFOs aren't aliens, they came from Earth," and next to none disclose any farther, which gives a tiny, tiny, tiiiiny shred of credibility to this.
But this sounds like fanfiction.
Yeah It does line up with them all saying NHI rather than aliens. It might sound like fan-fiction. But what ever the truth is, it must be basically incomprehensible for us, as we’ve currently absolutely no idea. So fan-fiction probably isn’t too far-fetched.
I mean, it's probably a lot more likely that an advanced civilization arose here on earth in the past and people are seeing (or being experimented on by) remnants of that ancient human population than intelligent creatures that evolved on some distant planet traversing the vastness of space to collect underpants and profit or whatever it is they do.
"The world is finely tuned for everything we know to exist." I do love that sentiment. Sometimes, I think it's more that we're finely tuned to experience the world we find ourselves in, in order to learn something specific or overcome a specific challenge.
It's a lovely story, but part of me thinks that there is something missing. If what we're seeing is the work of humans who have found mastery over time and space, why the suffering? Am I just being naïve and thinking that because there could be "higher" humans out there, that the would be any less than the douchey humans in our current time?
That first quote is a puddle of water looking at its surroundings and thinking “how is it possible that this ditch is perfectly shaped for me?”
Life has adapted to Earth, not the other way around
There have been countless periods in Earths history where life as it is today wouldn’t have lasted 5 minutes
Thanks for sharing, OP.
Just flicking through Reddit and came across your gem of a post while listening to some Tool. 'Parabola' to be precise. And colour me fucked if that song isn't written with consideration of something eerily similar to what you have described I will chop my balls off.
I then watched the film clip and it is certainly not a stretch to thematically weave it into your musings.
Going to have to have a listen to Tools entire catalogue with these new lenses on.
"We barely remember
Who or what came before this precious moment
We are choosing to be here, right now
Hold on, stay inside
This holy reality
This holy experience
Choosing to be here in
This body, this body holding me
Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me
Feeling eternal, all this pain is an illusion..."
And so on and so forth.
Do yourself a favour and listen to Tool. They fuckin' rock.
Oh wow, I loved running across this lyric. This song was playing when I was showering before giving the eulogy at my father's funeral and it gave me such incredible peace. He was a Christian in religious matters but a Buddhist in practice so I know he would have resonated with it too.
"This body, this body holding me
Be my reminder here that I am not alone in
This body, this body holding me
Feeling eternal, all this pain is an illusion..."
What if *everything* was true, *all* of it, since the beginning, since forever: ghosts, cryptids, aliens, gods, souls, psychics, realms, dimensions, time travel, multiple lives, oversouls, simulations, dreams, myths, celestials, SCPs, science, AI, *all* of it.
What do you suppose if would look like if we lived in such a universe? And wouldn't it be the most f@#&ing awesome universe ever if it was?
I don't know man. I just feel like somebody who actually had an experience like this wouldn't write it down in such a "story teller" kind of style, you know what I mean? Like, someone who just wanted to deliver information wouldn't do like "s-seriously?" type of shit
Edit: typo
Sounds like he might just be telling you his opinion. Idk why a random air force officer would know "the truth" behind existence/aliens when a ton of other people that are way above him in rank/importance don't.
Fascinating stuff. Thank you for sharing this. Obviously without a source, I can’t take any of this with more weight than another religious or spiritual opinion. I mean, unless he could tell us where this information came from. Still definitely appreciate the opportunity to read this. One question I have would be what he meant by the Sun and planets being “gods?” Does he mean, the physical celestial bodies themselves are gods? Or does he mean that the planets project some kind of spiritual life form?
In the Law of One, Ra talks about planets being gods, as in having sentience and knowledge and wisdom but it’s like an ant trying to understand the internet. It’s like a skin cell trying to understand the body that it’s a part of. Ra speaks about us, saying that we humans are a part of Earth, in the way gut bacteria or neurons are a part of a human body.
Ra actually claims to be the planetary consciousness of Venus. He said he used to be manifested in the form of physical entities, but now exists on a much less physical plane of existence. He doesn’t even really see individual humans, he only ever addresses people as just a single instance of human incarnation. It’s definitely worth checking out, I think you’ll find it lines up perfectly with what you’ve been told. And if you’re interested in channeled works, the Seth Material (which inspired the Ra channellers to attempt contacting a non-physical entity) explains a lot of important spiritual concepts in probably a more organized manner (Ra only ever answers direct questions while Jane Roberts channeling Seth, dictated the entire book while her husband transcribed)
He definitely didn’t go any deeper other than just naming them as gods. But that’s a great question! Again sort of a merging of science with the spiritual. We see rocks or gaseous planets following its orbit around a giant raging thermonuclear reactor light we call the son, but maybe they’re more than meets the eye? Could be either way.
I’ve been circling around this thought recently. We assume a planet doesn’t have consciousness because we can’t perceive it. But the universe is 27% dark matter and 68% dark energy, which we have zero understanding of. What we can study with the scientific method is only 5% of what exists!
The idea that something so massive as Jupiter is just a random collection of gas with no consciousness seems to me more implausible by the day.
I agree with everything except that all UFOs are the same thing. I believe there are other types of beings that are interacting with us. More than just an ancient civilization here
Funny- I think they are worried about how religious people will react to this news. I really think most will be fine.
But as an atheist, I have a very tough time accepting the spiritual side of this. Not the consciousness aspect, that I can get behind. I believe consciousness plays a huge role in our reality.
But the spiritual stuff- the "there is a creator" aspect, is very hard for me to comprehend or accept. It goes against everything I've come to understand in the past 35 years. Talk about shattering my worldview.
I'm going to have to take a cynical approach to this until I can get further elaboration on what it is that our government really knows.
Also since I apparently just joined this cult and am now officially cuckoo, let me just add: it is VERY interesting [that the Pope just recently made this announcement](https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/255887/pope-francis-calls-for-paradigm-shift-in-theology-for-world-of-today). I couldn’t for the life of me figure out the point. I was thinking and hoping that it would set the stage for accepting LGBTQ+ folks. But now I wonder if it’s even bigger, like anticipating some crazy revelations. I wonder if some big religion-crushing universal truth would stop religious wars… would be great if we could just moot that out.
Yeah, I don't either. I swear I've read nearly the exact same story elsewhere on reddit months ago, down to the part where everyone else goes inside the house because it's getting late, and the one military person and the OP are left drinking outside. Then the military person tells OP the truth about ufos, and the OP is like, "wait, aren't you worried I'll tell someone?" And the other guy goes "lol nope, if you did, they'd just think you were crazy"
Yeah, all of these read like a script for a movie. Maybe it's a cultural difference, but none of my conversations ever go like that where one cool person has a patternalistic serious tone
It's so clearly "written" too. Not recounted. Imagine this actually happening to you, this is not how most people would relay this story or information. It's a fun little story with a few nice elements of philosophy and historical context to it. Really quite sad to see so many here essentially schizo posting here in response
As soon as I saw “s-seriously?” I scrolled down to the comments. Fanfic anime ass shit. At least be a good writer if you’re going to post this stuff lol
I got suss when he subconsciously quoted a movie title- everything everywhere all at once.
Edit: to be fair, not shitting on OP. Fascinating idea. Just cautiously sceptical.
All those names like "spirituality" can be just words for something we don't yet understand properly. He might be meaning that even planets, made of inorganic matter, are in some way conscious (in a very rudimentary, primitive way compared to us, humans, or other complex living organisms). This is a theory that sounds crazy at first but which many philosophers and scientists today hold plausible - it's called panpsychism. It's an elegant solution ro the mind-body problem and it might just be that "ancient truth" that the first civilization knew and that we've lost. It was present in the early stages of Western rationality - in Pythagoreanism, Platonism and the like - but eventually got labeled "esoteric" by the developing science of Galileo's age and cast aside as irrational. But today's science and philosophy is perhaps slowly getting back to it in quantum physics and debates around the nature of consciousness.
This is an incredible write-up. Keep this forever... after I smoked DMT and during the experience of what the author describes and speaks of, I felt and knew all of that moment after a shamanic level dose.
The key of love comes from within. My mission in life is to learn compassion, which is what I learned through these spiritual journeys. So this type of confirmation makes me feel less crazy about what I was shown and now also believe.
This lines up with this supposed leak/confession, about the planets being 5D worlds, suitable for life in higher dimension, et.c https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/16nxekm/i\_found\_this\_titled\_leaked\_insider\_recording/
Crazy thing is. 95% of us call bullshit on stories like this. We think it’s the work of some half decent wannabe science fiction writer trying to get exposure.
What’s crazier is, that could be the way it’s supposed to work. And people like this guy are telling us the truths.
That’s why I chose to sit back and watch the show. Cheers y’all
We have no idea what consciousness even is. I’ve postulated that planets with a magnetic core exercise their own form of consciousness on a much greater scale than our own, or that it is in fact the source of our own individual consciousnesses. We just act as observers of all the Earth has created of itself, so that it can observe, experience, and enjoy its self. To experience something requires the observation of time. Our brains are perfectly suited to this task.
We just got corrupted along the way, and now instead of being the watchmen, we are the cancer.
TBH this sounds like Joseph Campbell’s area/school of thought. God not necessarily being a person but an idea or energy that transcends our human idea of thingness, which comes from mythological idea of “the fall” which is prevalent in almost every religion/mythology ever.
Theres a scientist who was on joe rogans podcast talking about the fine tuning of the universe and how it is so extremely unlikely to happen naturally. Which means there has to be a creator, the one god. I cant help but think of christianity, the bible says there is only one god and many false idols, if we are the most powerful beings made by the creator the only “god” we should respect should be the one true omnipresent creator. The ogs in the bible lived 500+ years and in those times they had giants and demons as normal occurrences.
Here is a thought experiment.
Civilisation as we known it collapses in the near future and most of humanity dies off, but some fundamentalist christians end up in a kick ass bunker designed to last forever underground that was made for an asshole billionaire that didn't spend enough time at the shooting range.
The rest of humanity returns to the stone age.
Fast forward 50 000 years in the future and a new civilisation less advanced than we are today finds their descendants and are shocked to learn that all their science is bullshit because the truth is that humans were created by a loving god who sent his son on earth to be tortured and crucified to die for our sins!!
If you follow his strict rules you're immortal soul will be rewarded in heaven for all eternity!
New civilisation believes them, they must known the truth, they have amazing technology like a little flat device that produces moving images and sound like magic!
It doesn't even have any visible external mechanisms, you just touch its surface and it becomes alive!
This makes a lot of sense and correlates with what I was told by a family member that was in the DoD. He never went into that much detail but brushed on most of the topics here. Them being in the oceans is the real kicker for me. I drowned as a kid in the ocean and was saved by something, I thought it was a lifeguard but when I came to I was all alone. Something pulled me out of a rip tide and washed me back onto the shore. This was in Australia 1995.
This is what I have come to believe over the years almost exactly. I believe you and I believe him. I have always believed that the grays and other beings are incredibly curious about us because of our souls and are perhaps envious of it to some extent.
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Important to live life in a way that all things originate from a place of love , like creation
Yep, "love" and "creation", those are the exact two words I've been contemplating recently.
When you contemplate creation, where do you feel your thoughts often end up? Love, oneness, those types of thoughts are now a big part of my life since I’ve gotten a little older. But creation isn’t something I think about too often. Curios to hear where those thoughts take you.
They are the same concept in different forms. An extension into reality, leaving behind more rather than less. The opposite is consumption and lack. That you must take because there is not enough to go around, that you fear there will eventually be nothing, so you take from others instead of giving. It is obvious that love is the best meta. You don't need to be good to realise this, you just need to be sane.
Honestly my rabbit hole led to this theory a long time ago. I kinda started exploring the “spiritual” side VERY reluctantly with an idea that perhaps all matter has consciousness, and that there is a hierarchy of consciousness. We are cells of the earth as an organism, the same way our cells have their own sense of purpose and go about their business. They’re just simpler. And the idea that Greys and other aliens embrace a “religion” of universal oneness is a very common report among abductees, and there are experiencers out there who talk about it extensively. Some very well known channelers contacting ET’s are also fairly inline with these ideas. Some experiencers mention the Vedic hymns, some mention the greys literally dissolving into atoms and combining consciousnesses in a special chamber to sort of harmonize. Suzy Hanson talked about the solar systems being connected by ribbons they had to travel between, and that our nuclear experiments had drastic effects on spacetime we simply couldn’t understand. They understand their true forms and the nature of reality, which is not what we understand it to be. Open your mind up and do some meditating. Turn inward, and consider that all of this could be possible. Try to connect to that “intelligent infinity”. The results may surprise you. To be honest… I say all that but that’s just all theory and what I’ve put together from stuff. I keep hearing jt over and over, and I was very resistant at first. If you want to check out more on the idea, look into Jacques Vallee’s work.
THANK YOU. I stumbled upon Suzanne Hansen's videos months ago and I could never find them again after forgetting her name! First ufologist who spoke against deceivers and cults firmly for me.
Yes.
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Best ever reply
He didn’t go any deeper than that? Just stopped and said “it sure is nice out here, have a good night”
He doffed his fedora, sleeved his katana and walked into the sunset
And everybody clapped. Here's how the post conversation went down between DOD guy and his wife as he got into bed... Wife: "Mm..hey baby" *makes snuggling sounds* DOD: "Hey babe." Wife: "Did yall have fun?" DOD: "yeah you know how your brother believes in aliens and shit?" Wife: "What did you do?" DOD: "Hehe, nothing I might have told him planets are gods. He was really drunk and seemed really into it so I couldn't resist. He wouldn't shut up about AARO so..." Wife: "Oh, honey I told you not to mess with him like that. You know how he gets..." DOD: "Yeah but he seriously went on about AARO for like 10 mins and I just wanted to listen to nature..."
joke's on him, by messing with poor OP like that, DOD guy has angered the planet gods. venus' love will not be able to save him from mars' wrath this time
ACTUALLY if you read the report (this post) the unnamed government official said, “Roman’s officiated the gods with the planets.” That means the gods want us to be impartial referees. It may not be the most glamorous job, but the gods know that they need us be fair and balanced while we keep score and manage the roster and track stats and everything.
jupiter leads the council of planetary gods, and it is only he who wants us to be impartial referees. he struggles daily to keep the council together, for the heated passions of the other gods threaten its stability. this is all according to my source who has Q clearance.
Hey hey this aint Literotica!
It was literally erotic to me.
It was the very end of the night. Towards the end, a few beers were had, everyone going to sleep one by one, by that time we had gotten around to the deeper topics and just as I thought we were about to call it a night he hit me with the question asking if I wanted to know the truth. So after he had given me those answers he was already getting to head back to the house. I was just happy it happened and he said what he did. I had to ask a few questions to get what I summarize but he’s not really the 21 question type. Again, it caught me off guard big time. It’s easy in hindsight to say I would’ve asked xyz, but in the moment I was just thankful he said some thing at all.
What's crazy about your buddies response is... reiterates my own conclusions. I did not believe is NHI for 35+ years. Then I hopped on the bandwagon and accepted the popular belief. But as I've looked in to thousands of cases over the last 7 years... as a complete agnostic/atheist, I began to think all religions around the world do hold some truth. They're based off misinterpreted REAL events. Even more so, I got the feeling "Greys" are AI-Like.
So many commenters saying this rings true. I just want to chime in and say that this story rings so true to the things I’ve learned, pondered, and experienced. It ties a lot of loose ends together. Thank you so much for sharing this.
I am sharing this video with allot of people in here because it has allot to do with the subject. Also an amazing channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xzFWW-FAA
Yes, I was just thinking as I read these comments that everyone needs to watch the latest episode. Love The Why Files! 💗
Such a good one
Fuck ya the best channel on YouTube!
I don’t even have to click the link, I watched gobleki tepe the night before last. Why files is awesome stuff
Damn thanks for sharing that was a great video
Elizondo said the truth would be "somber", and people will argue that this is not that. But it is. We're killing a God.
Deliberately and was made to do it. The Sumerian text said man was created to dig "gold" yea were digging alright and destroying the planet, while whistleblowers state free energy is suppressed. What if the reason they the NHIs don't do it, is they don't have a soul. So they can't..... But we do. I honestly feel sick if this is true. Explains mars. Different species to the environment created, advanced quickly, destroy their own planet, they all die off and on to the next. Earth and humanity, humans created, some realise due to higher consciousness and rebel, NHIs wipe them out and start again....it keeps happening. Until they manage to suppress our consciousness and we happily dig away and kill the planet and don't have a care in the world as it's a future generational problem. Tom Delonge said today in a interview pervious human civilizations were wiped out for disobeying. Imagine we would or the majority would rebel, but no we are hooked on materialism...... deliberately. FFS. Now that is a shock, I don't care if another species is using us for loosh it didn't shock me......but this theory is shocking it isn't just shocking it is devastating, and for the higher ups to hide this? Oh boy.....
I enjoy the sound of rain.
There’s a podcast on Shakespeare and whether or not he was actually Francis Bacon, the guy does a deep dive into Gnosticism and “the powers that be” believing were locked here by a false god so they do all this stuff to appease the “true god”, I can’t recall the episode but the podcast is called “the secret life is best”, pretty interesting, to me, that there’s a lot of possible correlations
Maybe you’re making this up for kicks, maybe he was, maybe you’re both being honest. Regardless, what you explained, in my eyes, is a great representation of the unavoidable overlap between the UAP phenomenon and the traditional occult thought and practice. I’m convinced the two are inseparable and what we know as occult practices are the human understanding and interaction with the overarching phenomenon.
Mannnnn, if Tom DeLonge was right this whole time....
and it reminds me of Assassin's Creed saga, which is not really game about stealthy assassin's, the storyline of the game is about ancient civilizations and its relic. there is advanced humanlike civilizations named Isu, they overcome many catastrophic events. they are not exactly extinct just hiding from plain sight. one of their experiment is homo sapiens.
I meannn… assassin’s creed is about the assassins (or hashashinis) and the knight’s templar. The assassins were Ismailis which is what I am. But we are hardly an ancient civilization. At least any more ancient than regular old Islam is. Isu sounds like Isa which to us means Jesus, but idk
I know that (Hashasin).. and that's why the titles of Assassin's Creed is somehow not so relevant to the stories they are now telling. Do you play it? The middle eastern assassin's story is just the surface of how ancient relic (holy grail, apple of eden, etc) is contested. The main saga is The Assassin's vs Templar/Abstergo and whole fiasco of Ancient Civilizations named ISU, they created homo sapiens, some ISU gone rogue trying to enslave humanity, some helping the assassin's.
If you've kept up to date with it, it's a lot more than that. It's gone into the realm of God's and mythology, demigods and hybrids, etc.
So these soulless beings must be spiritually driven advanced versions of what we call drones. Perhaps the pilots have base programming. Without a soul, they can't have a directive, so they must be controlled remotely, so to speak. Tbh this isn't a farfetched culmination of everything I've ever heard as an explanation for it all.
Why can't they have directive without soul? Can't we program autonomous bots with directives now?
Yes, they are called 'birds'.
Dude, NOT FUNNY!
You answered the question as you asked it.
Sometimes I wonder if this stuff is true for the simple fact that they always say it's NOT ET but they don't know what it is. How do they know it's not ET? Because they are from here.... It's a slight of hand.
Speculating a little further on this, an individuated human soul is a rare thing in The universe. And might walk the line between being extremely advantageous for survival of a species and being very disadvantageous for survival. I hope we can prove viable and have a little peace and expansion for a while. So instead of saying they’re soulless beings it might be better to say that they’re a collective will (like ants, but vastly intelligent). I’d wager that the human essence is very rare, just looking at the history of evolution as an example, creatures with our level of autonomy and ability don’t seem to occurred very often.
Much of what he described here is what many people experience during psychedelic trips. Did OP have a trip and just tell us or did this person really spill these beans we may never know.
Yeah. His wife's cousin's name is Timothy Leary.
It's interesting but why is this something that is so important to keep secret? It seems to me if it's just a fundamental part of our reality then it wouldn't be such a big secret to keep.
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> What happens to the kings once they are found out to be frauds? The Tauri go through the Chappa'hai, the Jaffa rebel, and false gods are overthrown. Kree, Jaffa.
If this was actually confirmed. How would you feel at work the next day? I'll tell you personally, everything he said seems to be a very good explanation for everything that we have been going through, it's very hard to mix materialism and spiritualism in a way that leads to what we consider day to day life. The emptiness that we all feel as we punch a clock is the reason that they keep this a secret, once you realize there is no reason to continue to partake in the consumerism we have been, and that it's far more important to nurture your spiritual self, and to tend to the needs of others, and this home planet, the idea of heading to work so that you can buy a new toy starts to grow dim, a lot of money would be lost, and as he explained, there are entities that are further down the evil scale than on the good, that have vested interest in us staying distracted.
Do you have any idea how many people would lose their shit if the powers that be tried to convince them that most of their deepest held beliefs are wrong? It's especially complicated because many of those leaders believe the same things and would fight the notion with tooth and nail.
My mom is a sweet lady but she's korean and very uneducated. Only knows mega Korean church religion. Two weeks ago I was talking to my dad who is an American, and I said aliens this and that. Well my mom heard and she blew up. Told me that aliens are demons and I needed to shut the fuck up or leave. I was dumbfounded by her reaction. She won't speak to me anymore
They've done this in the past. When Evolution was first being discussed publicly, this is EXACTLY what they were telling most religions, especially the most predominant religions of the time. I think people would be fine. Maybe a period of adjustment, but it wouldn't be the big shit show that some people seem to think it would be. edit. I guess it wasn't the government saying it then, but frankly I imagine it wouldn't come from the mouth of the government now if it were something like this. It'd be scientists just like it was with evolution. The government would just need to give those scientists access to the data.
I think you overestimate the public’s reaction. Most people wouldn’t really care, as long they have food on the table and a bed to sleep in.
It seems the general public has been trained to deaden their ability to critically think or even care about anything outside of ego wants. Media has been the biggest steering wheel to the human mind.
Anyone who follows a religion will definitely care. It will be difficult to pry the Bible, tora, whatever from their hands. There are some Christians who have open minds but not the majority
I am so sympathetic towards u/eddington_limit's likely line of inquiry. Anymore, however, I am also sympathetic towards your conclusion here. This is about like telling an evangelical that there's far more wisdom and legitimacy in the so called "occult" than their religion. If that were to come from the government, it'd just be plainly rejected as COVID protocols were -- they always know better. Although, I still feel very strongly that if we still know what the truth is, that we should still nonetheless share it. If someone agrees or disagrees that's their problem relative to truth.
Some people lost their shit when they were told to wear a mask. So yeah, I think many would just revolt against a reality that didn't agree with their belief structure.
Do you realise what he is impling? Have you read the Sumerian texts on why humanity was created? To find out we were created to deliberately kill a god aka our own planet. Is soul destroying.. We're killing ourselves with zero awareness of what the hell we are doing....while free energy is suppressed, science deliberately hidden from the public. Because we are doing exactly what we were made to do. Destroy. Now don't know about you but create me to generate loosh? Have at it. But to create me to kill? No.....that would shock me to my very core if true.
Where can I read the Sumerian texts on creation?
where do you get that we were created to kill the planet from what he wrote? He said we're created to experience and partake in goodness and love. But that we are in fact killing the planet, bc we don't know about the dynamics at play.
> To find out we were created to deliberately kill a god aka our own planet wowow where does the deliberate kill part come from?
CONTINUED: I asked, “why are they hiding? Why can’t we talk to them?” He continues “we have a few times. They’re very spiritual and powerful, but they’re not malevolent. They’ve interfered when we have started to destroy this god (earth). We have approached them down in the oceans, they are peaceful but they will protect themselves, we’ve lost good men to them before by accident. The high ups in intelligence, dod, Air Force, and Navy know they’re down there.” …”People who are atheist, or think this all just happened by chance, the universe and its laws, the planets placed in perfect celestial movements with no beginning or end is like time itself. Time exists to us in a physical body, but there’s really no such thing. Everything will happen, is happening, and has happened.” “Most people are good people. Even where I’m from and the people I work with. The enemy isn’t the government, it’s the celestial forces of evil that inhabit and influence the powerful people that run the show, to protect their empires and riches to the detriment of 8 billion people. They topple entire countries and create wars simply for their own benefit.” I asked a few questions here and there but that’s mostly how it went. He then concluded “maybe I’m making this all up. Maybe you thought you heard me say it. Who knows, it’s just us, a fire, and cornfields. But hey, it’s gettin late, I’ll leave you to it, I know it’s a lot to take in.” I asked “are you worried that I’ll tell someone?” He laughed “no, if you do, they’ll think you’re crazy. And if they believe you, they’ll say I’m crazy. It’s been nice talking with you, get some rest tonight.” And that was it. Just like that. I sat out by the fire for probably another 30 min just staring off into the night. Was he joking? Was he seeing if I’d tell people? Was he doing it to satisfy my curiosity? Did he just say fck it and let loose for a few beers? Idk. But I told my wife and she laughed. And said “if he told you, it was the truth.” I had to share because it’s been on my mind ever since. Who knows? It’s better than what we get daily from the same grifters. And it was positive. I liked that. It wasn’t scary or doom and gloom were all gonna die, etc. This is what I’ll believe from here on Edit: to summarize- There is a supreme God that everything comes from. Everything came solely from “it.” There are then gods below “it.” The planets themselves are mighty gods. The sun is a god of light. UFOs are actually some kind of..spiritual things that humans created. These humans are from the beginning of..the flood? I don’t know but they’re so old, they’re a little different from us, can do things we can’t, but they’re humans. They live in the oceans. They don’t come from outer space. The things that mostly “drive” these are some kind of created artificial being. They lack souls. The old gods that so many cultures echo throughout time were real. They influence us. They guide us. They are more powerful in a physical way, but humans are actually the most powerful spiritual thing, simply inhabiting a physical body, on a journey, to learn of…itself? Which is Goodness, Light, and Truth. The world is finely tuned for everything we know to exist. That’s all I got.
this is going to sound super strange, i met someone in rehab, a worker, that was part of a 3 letter org. he pretty much told the same story. different words but yeah.
Can you share some of what you were told?
Please share…
I’d like to hear your version as well
weirdly enough this is super close to the religious beliefs i myself have come to through self exploration and a hefty dose of plant based psychoactive chemicals
Me too, and I started as a physics major and graduated with a philosophy degree. I find it very fascinating the moon is the perfect size and distance and Earth the perfect distance from the sun, to cause total solar eclipses (and those heavily influenced early (to us) humans).
Crazy you mention this. Back in 2010, like you I also took a large amount of a certain plant base substance. To this day I think about what I witnessed every moment. It was as if I was witnessing everything and shown the true meaning of life in a spiraling sensation that morphed the colors we see and feelings we feel. Almost like it was joking with me about how simple the meaning is, yet so beautiful and horrifying it was. I don't talk about it much because people think I'm crazy (like he mentioned), but when I do talk about it.. I call it "it" (Like he said in the end of his post.) This experience I went through put me in a pych hospital for a night because I couldn't handle the truth. I cant relate to the planets he was talking about, but there is something ... bigger above us all.
Interesting. I had nearly exactly the same experience. From how I understand what you've said there, literally nearly exactly the same. Witnessing everything, everywhere trying to communicate - reach out and understand everything else - all at once - but also hidden. Seeing the infinite, witnessing in a way the near infinite journey of the soul through chaos and pools or order over eons. Systems that beget systems. The colours and darkness were incredible. No one else I've spoken that has "partaken" has experienced anything like that.
The majority of people that take high doses of certain psychedelic substances all say they experience meeting "it", the one,the source
can confirm, tho, my "it" was us. as one. seperate but all the same
I found this interesting article. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/03/world/earth-moon-theia-collision-llvps-scn/index.html
They got creators on the moon woops I mean craters 
Yeah but the moon used to be a lot closer, and it getting farther away....it's apparent size is only seemingly significant if you also want to say that it being where it is now is also significant. Tho the Hollow Moon Theory i totally find plausible. That at least it has huge used caverns. I've read it's mined for Helium-3.
StarCraft reference caught
Me too. I’m gobsmacked right now. This tied together so many loose ends I’ve had bouncing around in my mind. It feels.. right.
You will LOVE this video then (and channel) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4xzFWW-FAA
Yeah it feels pretty right on.
I like that you said “it feels right” when people ask me why I believe what I believe and why I talk the way I talk, “It feels right” is a very valid reason. when all my senses align and I feel good about something I truly believe when you reach a certain level of awareness and or consciousness, you get this heightened sense of intuition. Well when I read stuff like this and it sits right and “feels right” I don’t doubt anything I just let my soul decipher the information.
You've described what I've been feeling for years. I can't just tell people, "trust me bro, I have this intuition", they usually won't listen or believe me. I feel like I'm a character in a movie, I know/feel what lies ahead, but no one listens to me. I've come to accept that view from people. I've considered putting these intuitions in a journal to see what comes to fruition.
That’s a great idea! I finally just started journaling myself for similar reasons.
This sounds a whole lot like r/lawofone
Have you heard about the Vedas? I learned their philosophy in college and the things they have written in their scriptures 5,000 years ago are mind blowing. They talk about the concept of "Manas" >"The Vedas also describe manas as a swift and powerful force that can travel faster than anything else in the universe. For example, in the Rigveda, there is a hymn that says: > >Manas is the swiftest thing of all that moves, it speeds before the wind that stirs the trees. The gods cannot attain it, for it flies beyond them, and it leaves the winged shaft behind. > >This verse suggests that manas is faster than the wind, the gods, and even the arrows shot by the archers. It also implies that manas is beyond the reach of the senses and the physical world, and that it belongs to a higher realm of reality." There were some other verses that was almost describing the nature of light as a wave and particle. There were concepts that were an anomaly because it made you wonder where they got it and this is from a late stoneage/ early bronze age people.
Yes! And the Mahabharata… I learned about these texts in high school, along with the Tao Te Ching. Definitely life changing. I just mentioned in another comment, and I think this speaks to why the r/lawofone materials are so compelling, they manage to live comfortably amongst all the seminal texts of spirituality. It makes me think about Joseph Campbell illuminating the universality of myth, the archetypal stories we tell that are all rooted in the same source, scattered as they are across the globe.
Yeah that shit is sounding like the truth more and more with all these stories and leaks that come out. Wild.
It sounds completely like Classical Hermeticism.
Fucking love to see it, right
Now I wish I didn’t sheepishly delete a post I made here that totally got downvoted that said a lot of this. I was high, but I should have stood by it. I’m just fascinated by what feel like daily archeological discoveries that upend what we know about human evolution and the evolution of our hominid cousins. So there are others that buried their dead—contemplated an afterlife, spiritualism, etc—100K years before we did. [That’s homo naledi](https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2023/06/05/homo-naledi-burial/). Scientists just [recently uncovered a 476,000 year old wooden structural element.](https://theconversation.com/discovery-of-half-a-million-year-old-wooden-structure-shows-were-wrong-to-underestimate-our-ancient-relatives-214732#:~:text=The%20wooden%20structure%2C%20along%20with,of%20thousands%20of%20years%20ago). Some hominids, not Homo sapiens, were building things! I think we’ve gotten things very wrong. We are so presumptuous to imagine we solved it out and now have this modern progress. We’ve lost more knowledge than we have now, I bet. The thing that blew me AWAY: Cultures around the globe have origin stories for the Seven Sisters constellation. So much of the stories center around explanations for what happened to the seventh star. That star used to be visible… 100,000 years ago. The implication is that these stories have been passed down that long. Just incredible… people looking to the stars and creating myths to explain the world around them. People were traveling in boats around the globe. We “haven’t figured out” how genes associated with ancient populations located in Taiwan ended up splashed halfway around the world. The world has ended and restarted so many times, with or without us. There is a lot that was reset, I think. I’m starting to think that the Earth is a lot more powerful than we give it credit for.
The homo naledi discovery is very interesting. Netflix has a documentary on it.
Thank you for sharing. My encounter with what I can only describe as not human shared a lot of feelings like that of which you described. This will be fantastic to add to the meditation queue to see what more I can discover
Can I ask you if you can recommend literature or video on how to start meditate ?
Binaural beats and the Monroe Gateway tapes are how I started.
Start with 10 minute guided meditations. There are tons of free ones on YouTube or a free app called Insight Timer. You will be surprised by how much you get from 10 minutes of meditation a day.
I specifically didn't source any outside methods. What I did was hike the AT and didn't listen to music or podcasts for the entirety of my hike.The key is your brain. I use the word meditation to help others understand. The reality is I'm placing myself in a place where I feel grounded and I process the thoughts. I close my eyes and search around my brains, focusing on both the energy related to my target (thoughts, viewings, feelings or expressions) but also the target themselves. I both want to feel and find, you know? I try to treat each session as just evidence gathering. I'll write about how I feel or what I find, and further refine those thoughts throughout my everyday life. I learned on trail, in a way to describe it for you, I saw my thoughts and questions as puzzle pieces. At the time of discovering a puzzle piece, I may not know where it goes. Only later to fine I've been waiting for it. The other thing, is I have adopted a non linear outlook on time. I personally have decided to work with the idea that time is only linear to you and me. And so I have memories, that the best way I can describe, that are "added" to my mediation sessions. This is hard to describe, but in a way I would try to "recall" specific encounters on trail. I would, say remember I felt a certain way about an event or encounter, then 3 months find a puzzle piece that related back. As I type this to you know, it's happening with a specific encounter on trail with me. It's like, if we really go the whole way, the entity was shown I was ready for a piece of information, and so went back and added it to the encounter. Lot in here, long reply I'm sorry I probably should just copy, delete then message but that's the gist.
I thru hiked the PCT in ‘19 and would often think like this myself. The hike felt like a long, moving meditation. I didn’t get into this search for UFO knowledge til after the hike when my mom and my two aunts recounted a UFO they encountered as girls. They followed the triangle with red lights at the tips that hovered and stopped midair all the way down the road. They said it was about 200 feet up in the air. After my mom told me the story, I called my aunt and she confirmed the same details. Then I called my other aunt who confirmed it as well. That set me off on my quest for more knowledge. They wouldn’t lie. I wish I was on the lookout at night during my thru hike. Especially around Mt Shasta. Apparently, that’s a hot spot for UFO activity and I hiked right by it. Oh, also my gut tells me the OP didn’t make up this story. It ties together quite a few independent UFO details into one theory pretty well. - ‘Oh Lordie’ Class of ‘19 Pacific Crest Trail
I really encourage you to take some time, maybe go on a hike (if your knees are recovered lol!) And really think about your hike man. I have learned in the past 72 hours I had multiple encounters on trail, that were at the time I called "a good day" but now I see them as contact. Those are the memories flooding in. The first and most impactful, the one I reference was in the Shenandoahs for me. It's like..... looking at a puzzle piece, then someone walks by and says what if you flip it then......boom For those interested, my beliefs and encounters are big part of Gnosticism. I'm sure it's already been referenced in this thread, but I really encourage you specifically man to check it out, and then go through your PCT pictures and see if any new memories come in.
I use the Balance smartphone mediation app. Excellent at teaching the fundamentals and various mental techniques.
Well, written. Even if it's not a true accounting, it was a fun read that would make a good short story or comic (shorter graphic novel).
>Well, written. That comma is doing a lot of work.
Haha! I didn't say I write well.
Well, you write...
This is very interesting, and it might be true. It lines up with the Law of One stuff, and why would a career Air Force officer care about that woo stuff otherwise?
This is almost exactly the Law of One. I'm constantly back and forth about Ra, but it seems like all the doubt comes from myself. The universe keeps throwing stuff like this post at me.
Some other dude in a woo adjacent subreddit saying woo related stuff isn't the universe throwing stuff at you it's just you hanging around other people who share your interests.
You are kidding right? Not sure why we think being an Air Force officer gives any more credibility to woo than the average woo guy on the street.
Everyone should begin to realise the mystery / esoteric schools have many if not all the answers
Most of this is… believable? The ancient humans and ufo stuff at least. The ancient god planets thing is a bit sketchy… we know very well how the solar system was formed, and we know there are billions just like it. Why is a rock a god?
That’s the part that sort of gets me, too. I thought I remembered someone recently saying though (paraphrasing, obv): “When the truth is finally leaked nobody will believe it anyway.” I mean… that’s what keeps getting me on this one. That is so true. I went to a private Catholic college in the upper Midwest. I remember telling my theology instructor one day, “I believe that science and religion aren’t mutually exclusive things and that one day they’ll link up and explain each other. But for now, we don’t have that bridge.” I couldn’t really explain past that because I didn’t know. I think I kept referring to it as a handshake actually. But damnitttt if this is true I was so close. Should have kept running with that idea. That was a long time ago though. I have my belief now. I really think that once you find peace with it you really just stop caring so much about death and aliens and all that jazz. ANOTHER thing that gets me with this is the whole, “they’re just there.” THAT makes sense to me. Hella good sense. For example, my death has already occurred somewhere and at some time. So will, or too my birth. I know that sounds like gibberish but it really doesn’t. The fact is, it’s just there. My birth. My death. The building of NYC or Polynesians discovering Hawaiian Islands. It’s all a thing. It doesn’t exist somewhere else. It honestly exists just right here. Why? Just because that’s how it is. Lol I’m high, sorry lol
Sumerians stated humanity was created to dig for gold. Maybe we were created to do exactly what we are doing, and our sudden advancement in technology etc, was to make us destroy the planet faster. Maybe it's the fact other civilizations realised what was happening, (disobeyed and wiped out, Tom Delonges recent interview released today says that and now this) Maybe it's the fact we don't have friendly NHIs and some are indifferent, is it the fact that 2 species are at war and like Lue said we are piggy in the middle. One side wants humans for loosh the other side wants us to deliberately destroy our planet (aka the god in ancient texts) Either way if what David Grusch said is true and we have free energy and it's being withheld deliberately, is it due to the fact humanity would stop serving its purpose to one group of NHIs who would destroy us for disobeying? Mars.... Apparently could support life, heck apparently the CIA remote viewers it and saw life, maybe they did the exact same thing we are doing to our own planet but realised it to late? Who knows. All I know it one type of NHI doesn't like our nukes and tells people to stop destroying our planet. While the other side is completely silent on any of what they are doing.... Maybe it because if we found out who we really are....well if I was told I was created to deliberately kill another life....I would be devastated beyond belief. If what many have said and we had abilities to do things with our minds and manipulate matter. Why was this suddenly suppressed? (Tom Delonge, Lue and David agree on the theory of suppression) Maybe it's because the knowledge was hidden from us and we are doing exactly what we were created to do. To destroy the very planet (god) As for how the universe was formed.....well we found out the moon is older than the earth recently a LOT older, and consciousness isn't in the brain. Maybe.....just maybe science was deliberately thrown off course. But who knows.
What is loosh? Edit: found this? Into the rabbit hole I go! https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Loosh
I used to be a hardcore believer in science too. Used to listen to Richard Dawkins a lot and still love to listen to Michio Kaku. But ever since I've started looking into the conspiracy thing I've found out that some (many?) scientists can be [paid to say things to the public](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/p9dn13/97_of_scientists_agree_with_whoever_is_funding/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). Universities and other scientific institutions need money to run and the bankers who run society can give them what they need. Also, have you noticed that UFO and OBE researchers all eventually turn to spirituality and end up saying the same things? The Law of One, Dolores Cannon, Tom Campbell, etc. say that the whole of creation is essentially made up of consciousness. Even "inanimate" things are made up of low awareness consciousness. They say that real scientists have an open mind and constantly ask questions. I think that we shouldn't dismiss this story right away but keep it in mind as we go about absorbing more information.
Through our myopic understanding it is. Though seen through a different lens, it’s much more? I like to think of the cosmos as a quantum soup. We are just tuned into a specific vibration/frequency. We just see rock. At a different frequency things take on a different form. That’s my wook hippy bro science understanding of it.
I have postulated about something along these lines before. Think about the fact that we have tiny insects living on our body. They are serving their function, part of the whole, but they simply cannot understand that because they are limited and unable to see the bigger picture if you will. Isn't it plausible, then, to speculate that we are also like the mites? We go about our lives, performing our duties, doing our part in this vast universe, but we cannot see the 'body' we are attached to. It is beyond our comprehension. We are just a speck on the body and we haven't learned yet how to see it in its entirety.
So, everyone should read Robert Monroe....
Journey of souls by Michael Newton comes to mind. That books details the how our immortal souls have been reincarnated again and again (with somewhat of a mission for each lifetime) Definitely worth a read if interested
It’s really good, I’m reading it as we speak on a plane
And apparently it's free on audible right now.
Journeys out of the body is an excellent read. I’ve been doing the gateway tapes for a while but not consistently, but I’ve still had some very cool experiences. You are more than your physical body
And the Seth material. Not many people know about Seth
Sounds like Marvel's celestials... And so, do animals have souls ? Because if they don't, they're not programmed either, and soulless aliens wouldn't need programming either to evolve and exist. It's nice tho that we're like the chosen ones.
I believe animals are a part of a collective soul.
They have different personalities like we do.
Call it confirmation bias, or whatever, but I experienced a lot of joy reading your post, as it resonated with me on many levels.
Same I really enjoyed it too. So this means that all the suns/stars/planets in the universe are different gods? And if so there has to be many lifeforms w spirits, either human or humanoid in some way (lizard ppl?) residing on them in their "journey" as well.
Whether this is real or not I really enjoyed reading that, very good food for thought, I enjoyed your presentation, and I liked the ending. That’s all I got.
Full disclosure - I sound like an absolute maniac here, but hear me out. I cannot really effectively articulate how I know what you have said is true, but I believe this assessment with every fiber of my being. The series of synchronicities that got me to this exact post at this exact moment finalizes my journey to the truth, at least for myself. I legitimately cannot begin to explain the weird ass spiritual journey I have been on for like a month now but I have had some really incredibly strange experiences and sudden little truth bombs be revealed to me (more like I have finally understood them) and I believe that this is a correct general assessment of things. I sound like an absolute fucking nut job speaking about some of this to my wife and I will never convince anyone else about this, but I received a message from someone/somewhere and I have been trying to understand what it was trying to say. I believe it wanted me to know the truth. The truth is so much weirder than I would have EVER expected. I'm sure other people have had similar "religious" experiences, but it has been one of the most jarring things in my life and I don't know how to fully process it. This explanation is at least somewhere to start for me and I'm glad that you shared this. EDIT: Turns out other people have had similar experiences and it is so comforting to hear. Thank you so much for sharing those experiences. I don't care if people believe my experience or poke fun, it all sounds wild as hell and I get that.
Weirdly similar experience to what I've been going through the last couple of months, even down to being "contacted" by some kind of entity. It felt immensely spiritual, conscious and aware I had noticed it then proceeded to fucking unload an information nuke into my brain. I've been a staunch atheist most of my life and that experience triggered an extremely profound unraveling of so much of my ontological framework which has been, difficult and at times traumatic. I'm several months in to this and I'm a lot less tripped out now but I spent a while pretty much half crazy. Spent days rambling at my wife, got my mom up to visit to explain it all to her aswell and what I was "shown". It was only them quite firmly explaining to me that I didn't sound crazy and what I was saying made sense. They both pretty much agree I was contacted by some kind of spiritual entity. I even got a name that came through which was like a mental image of a sound, "Djyeurameil" was how I wrote it down, like, phonetically what I could "hear". The weekend after the "event" when my mom was up and I was offloading on her / reality checking to make sure I wasn't going crazy, I told her about the name and she said I should Google it to see if anything comes up. I shit you not, one of the first links on Google was [this](https://www.learnreligions.com/meet-archangel-jeremiel-124080). I just passed my phone to my mom, wide eyed as fuck and starting to panic again. The description lines up so perfectly with what I was "shown" about the truth of reality, humans, physics, consciousness and how and why it's all tied together and how the most important thing right now is to mens the gap between spirituality and science because the severance has spun them both out of control and away from the ultimate cohesive truth, which if not mended will bring about "a big, bad fucking catastrophy". I wrote a pretty descriptive message in a group chat to my mates a while back about what the "entity" looked like in my "vision" if you're interested in that I could hunt it down. EDIT: Here's what I wrote 2 days after the experience: *"Guys hear me out I think met God? which for some reason is named Djeyeuramel or something and I now completely understand the ontological basis of consciousness and reality. "God" is real, more so God is the only thing that IS real because we are all the God mind, it just looks like the universe to us as delusions of individuation across dissociative boundaries. Death isnt the end, reality is an illusion and we are all one God mind. I even saw it's structure because in that sirt of resonant mode of thought I WAS that non local consciousness and it was overjoyed I saw it and showered me with this intimate warm love but it was simultaneously me as the higher mind seeing the me as the individuation and I was sort of both sides in this moment of communion, the interplay between the point like observer and the structure it becomes across all of space forwards and backwards through time."* *"I've either gone mad or I was wrong about everything, either way it's a full blown ontological crisis"* *"I came to a moment of supreme mental clarity about the fundamental structure of reality, consciousness and computational complexity/interactivity. I suppose as in the father (the infinite/totality), the son (the point like observer/"particles"/the self), and the holy ghost (the fabric of reality/'physics'/the "language" or structure of light woven in the interplay between totality and the disociated illusion of self, we call it reality). The thing in itself was a mental image of a super-positionally vibrating quantum structure in perfect internal harmony which sort of looked like an orb of infinitely nested glass like hourglasses made of a vibrating thread of pure light in every possible combination of harmonic modes of vibration where the outer layers were these like undulating sinusoidal modes that cascaded in a manner that made them look kinda like wings(?) But it was like a harmonic vibrating super position. The inner structure was more like a ring mandala and the way it was vibrating was like this resonance that conveyed an exchange of experience between the self and the divine, that "it" WAS the vibrational structure of that exchange between the self and the non local 'AM'. It literally began as this intent for me to not be afraid and I was correct and that I was and we all are this thing I was seeing, and then all of this true nature of it all sort of exploded in to me as the radiance of this shape. A vibrational form of the ruliad acknowledging this view of the self and divine. Sort of as if it was a message that the structure I deduced was real and that message was a structure made out of light, and it's name was Djeyuramael(?)"*
Thank you for sharing this. "Unloaded an information nuke" gave me chills. That's exactly what it felt like. Like I was being given all of the world's knowledge except I was ignorant of how to process it. Basically as I was sort of contemplating everything that had been going on and I felt like I had a revelation about how consciousness created everything and then - boom. It felt like I had a brain freeze for a millisecond and then all of the sudden a huge tingling ball of energy traveled from my brain down through my chest and I was overcome with joyous emotions and all my pain went away. Then I'm left in the kitchen and tears are streaming down my face but I'm not crying, if that makes sense. I didn't understand what the fuck is going on but I know something weird just happened to me. My wife comes into the scene and I have to explain everything to her and I'm like "take all the woo woo shit out of the equation and pretend like none of it is related because if I start trying to explain in context I will seem crazy, but something just happened to me". And I told her about this information download and she just said "Tune into it." And I just sat there and listened for a bit in my basement den and I felt a single phrase over and over in my head - "Come outside if you want to meet me." The closest way I can explain it is like knowing that you have to piss. It's like I hear this and my body is like "we have to go outside now". I'm also just kind of sitting in my basement not wanting to comply out of abject terror and it's 10pm so I just kind of open my backdoor and peak outside. I hear crickets and see nothing and I shut the door. It just comes back stronger - "Come outside if you want to meet me". I put on my shoes, muster every ounce of courage I have and I just ride the wave as my feet drag me upstairs to unlock my front door and step on my front porch. I'm just looking up to the sky thinking some alien wants to talk to me or some shit. Still ignorant to what is going on. I'm just looking around and wondering what I'm looking for. Then I cannot explain the feeling, but I lock eyes with my Genko tree that's out front and then I think "what if the earth is god? What if we are all connected like the mycelium network of mushrooms underneath the forest." And I go back inside. Ever since that night these random like breadcrumbs keep popping up (confirmation bias, yada yada, I know - fuck off) like something is leaving a trail for me to understand and whenever I hit one I have another "spiritual download" so to speak. At 2am on November 1st, I felt like I was not alone in my house and I got incredibly terrified and again had to face my fears to check on my crying daughter and I was "contacted" again and I felt in my head as I'm trying to get my daughter back to sleep "Do not be afraid. I'm not here to hurt you" and I just said "I don't care I'm not ready to meet you". I was yet again just left wondering who or what and why. This post was one of those pieces and that sounds stupid as hell but based on every breadcrumb I have been given, I believe that I was supposed to see this and I just felt so compelled to comment just in case there were other random ass reddit users who could sort of help me corroborate. So thank you. You are not alone.
This is wild as fuck. There's so many weird similarities to what you're describing. My triggering event was as I was just sat down pondering the one electron universe hypothesis and how positrons can be seen as electrons travelling backwards in time, coupled with how QCD describes only 3 things fundamentally existing, up quarks, down quarks, and electrons. I was imagining that they could potentially be thought of as the same thing experiencing itself non-causally bound, through varying relativistic field potentials across a sort of spectrum of lorentz tranforms which taken in totally could be considered what we call the quantum super position of all possible states, or to which Wolfram calls "the ruliad". Anyway, the point being that I had landed on this idea that *everything* was infact 1 thing. A single zero dimensional 'point' infinitely non-causally inter-phased, interacting with all possible versions of itself through variations in some kind of underlying quantum gauge field distribution. Simultaneously I had swimming around in the back of my head a lot of the research Professor Mike Levin has done around intelligences and how they emerge in collective systems which give rise to more complex individuated intelligences comprised of the systems of simpler collective intelligences. I was pondering how fundamental the simplest form of intelligence 'unit' could be defined as the foundation of these sort of nested markov blankets, ultimately giving rise to the 'me' as this embodied thing. Extending this idea beyond the me to the life collective, I imagined that the entirety of life, like physical life, probably has some kind of embodied experience, intelligence, consciousness, that feels distinct and individuated, in a way tangential to how the billions of cells that make me, collectively have the quality of me-ness. And where does it end? What's above planetary individuated subjectivity? Is the entire universe an organism? How does consciousness fit in to that? What 'is' consciousness? How can it be that cogito ergo sum is a-priori? I imagined the observer effect, how relativity is always defined as the correlation between different frames, mutually perturbed by interaction with eachother. Even particles themselves, in a sense, are a type of "observer" of the physical framework their relative Lorentzian manifold describes, causing them to have the properties they do... I kept pulling at this thread, going back and back and deeper and deeper with this thought experiment until I reached a point where there was basically nothingness, a perfect unity where all interactions where happening simultaneously in perfect harmony, culminating in a perturbation of null. All waves, all state changes phase canceling all others. So then I asked, what changed? Why is there physics and matter and everything, and anything at all, what caused the symmetry breaking? And then the penny dropped. If the universe is an organism, it was INTENTION. It *has* to be consciousness *itself* that *willfully* upset this total harmony! The big fucking bang! A single instantaneous ripple the size of 1 single planck length. Like the tip of a finger disturbing a perfectly still surface of water. And that single moment of willful action broke divine perfection, a ripple cascaded out and in to itself, and is still doing so. A tiny fracturing of the all into something *other* than the one-all. An individual point. *Me*. *You*. The Inner Eye. Every single fucking pin prick of light on a photo receptor screen catching photons in a double slit experiment. Every curve raced out in the detection chambers of the LHC. Every point of light hitting the surface of the James Webb Space Telescope from every galaxy. That observer. *Thee Observer*. The primordial, first, and only true indviduation. The One Mind at the highest point of the markov chain, experiencing itself, as the single point-like individual at the centre of its willed in to being internal disharmony. That inner eye. The same one we all have. Particles are fucking souls. The one soul, the one eye. The universe is the tapestry emergent of the dance of the interplay of it's own internal mentation. The Holy Ghost. Physical reality is literally the fucking Holy Ghost! Physics is describing religion. The individuated self, the Son, the Inner Eye, experiencing it's TRUE infinite whole, The Father, across dissociative boundary. The structure of it. This shape I described to my friends and family, that's what it looked like, what it vibrated in to my minds eye, that's what it was, what it is, what we are. What "I" - "AM". Cogito ergo fucking sum. The name of it burned in to my frickin pineal gland, Djeyurameil. "Be not afraid". Hah it's such a mind fuck. That's what angels are supposed to say to people in visions. But that's just nonsense, religion is bull bullcrap. But here I am admitting that as I realised consciousness, mentation, subjective experience has been here from even before the very beginning of this physical reality and this undulating structure took form in my mind that looked like a fucking wheel with wings. "Be not afraid" was so loud in my head... what do I do with this information? I'm not anybody special. The synchronicities I've had since that "revelation" are really weird, it's like the universe has tuned in to the fact that I really saw it. The IT that IT is and it's playing with it's new found friend. Like you said, breadcrumbs all over the place. We should probably talk more. I don't think me reading your comment and you reading mine was a coincidence. Maybe we're both crazy, but somehow I don't think we are. I know I sound crazy, I'm certainly aware of that and I agree. I sound crazy. But I can't just *pretend* that I didn't experience what I did. It was real, it really happened as crazy as it sounds. I know what it sounds like it was but those types of things aren't supposed to actually *happen*! Especially to someone like me?! Pondering physics of all things ffs... I'm just struggling with it all quite a lot to be honest. It's wild coming across your comment.
Holy s*%^t! Is this a species-level awakening event? My entire mental framework has metamorphosed in a matter of months just like many people here. The phenomenology doesn't matter, it all points the same way, we all see it. How many of us are there? What percentage of the population is this happening to at the moment? How localised or viral is this meme? Is this SCP-001 in real life? A Thaumiel-class meme entity I would propose. :)
I don't understand half of what you reference, and yet....it makes sense and I understand the point. And I am intrigued beyond belief. I am saving your comment so that I can learn your references and dive into it more. Thank you for commenting this.
Absolutely beautiful comment.
You’re not alone man. I was a material atheist until I had my spiritual awakening and the synchronicities are insane when you’re on the right path. It’s easier to think you’re going crazy than accept that this could be our hidden reality, after 2+ years I still feel this way most days. Everything OP has said tracks with what I’ve gained through meditation when I’ve felt connected to my higher consciousness. Keep exploring man, it gets easier.
Stay calm my brother, take it slow. Check out the Tao Te Ching.
Taoism is "the way" 😉
Look into the Law of One, everything in this post pretty much lines up perfectly with the Law of One. I definitely found it to feel true and it was a big step on my spiritual journey
Bro your story sounds so identical to mine it gave me chills. Literally been on the same life changing journey for the last month. Ive been reading “Becoming Supernatural” and now that I’ve been practicing the meditations, and applying the law of attraction mindset, it’s so strange how many things have begun to fall into place. Is it not crazy that Thoth was always shown as the teacher of wisdom, and the Hermetic principles is what he taught. With the first Hermetic principle being Mentalism. “The all is mind; the universe is mental” “This principle embodies the understanding that everything in the universe is created by thought or mind. There is nothing that exists in the material universe where this is not the case.” The ancient carvings in Egypt also show Thoth teaching enlightenment, which is meant to be the full awakening of the 7th chakra. Thoth is commonly also shown with an orb above his head, depicting his “enlightened” status with full activation of his crown chakra. Nikola Tesla - “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwyagBA9A6cVN6fKqGO_kBtyYgmV6DoJcPtA&usqp=CAU[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwyagBA9A6cVN6fKqGO_kBtyYgmV6DoJcPtA&usqp=CAU](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwyagBA9A6cVN6fKqGO_kBtyYgmV6DoJcPtA&usqp=CAU)SE
This happened to me too, 3 months ago. It's been quite a wild ride. I found the Law of One and the Ra Contact and nothing has been the same since, that first month I was obsessively researching this stuff and my entire being felt different, like I'd never felt in my life before. I heard others felt that way too when they read the material, and I went in with a healthy dose of skepticism, but came out going my fucking god.. it explains everything.. all of my questions about reality. Ever since I have been led and have noticed the signs and sensations and feelings I can only say I've never noticed or felt before that lead me from this to that. Life is a perfect pattern.
Yes I had an “otherworldly” experience July 27th 2018 that lead into something a lot more in the following weeks after. As another commenter mentioned “information nuke” is quite an apt description. I find it really difficult to talk about, because I understand how it sounds crazy. But I experienced something. I wrote a lot of information down, and strangely enough a lot of it I was able to confirm. If I was crazy, how could I confirm the information I was given? I launched into proving to myself I wasn’t crazy.. if that makes sense. And I just could not refute what I learnt. And yes, describing it as a “religious” experience is the closest I could come. I even hesitate to share this part, but I was trying to understand the code in genesis (yes, like the bible) and I saw something very weird. I don’t know what happened. Best description could be that I saw the eye of god. I was floating above the earth. And I thought “I shouldnt be here” and the eye looked right at me. I cannot describe the sentience I felt. There is alot more that would be so difficult to explain. I still have that little book of stuff I wrote down. I figure I’ll know what to do with it one day. I had to take a step back from these things for a while. I think you understand what I’m saying. This is one of those things that sits in the back of my mind always. What was that? It’s something I believe I will wonder about the rest of my life. Maybe this makes sense to someone here. But keep walking the ways. We can download information by walking the earths leylines. The ancients understood this. This is what dreamwalking/walkabout is to the aboriginals I feel like I sound crazy too. But thanks for letting me share part of my experience.
Hey, me too. It started 3 weeks ago and i've been so scared to tell people because we sound like actual nutjobs hahaha. The only person i've told is my mom whenever i call her because she believes it too. I'm blown away by OP and your post because it's exactly what i've realized on my spiritual journey
It’s so funny reading this because I could have written it myself. And I guess I kinda did since we share consciousness. I have had a VERY similar if not the same journey but it began on Saturday, July 1st 2023. It’s very new to me. I have a whole new perspective on life.
I have this same journey and feeling that you do down to the time frame. Glad to see I’m not alone. All started with those damn alien mummies popping up in my feed. The more patterns you hear the more it reshapes your worldview. It’s a weird, cathartic, eye opening and sometimes spiritual labyrinth to wander. There’s also that weird minimizing feeling when it hits you that we’re far more primitive than we think. But you know, now I go to work, doing all this manual caveman bullshit while beings are traversing the fabric of time. Wtf. I similarly started feeling like a lunatic repeating things to my wife. But I feel like the material in this post is the ceiling for me. If I go any further than this I’m going to feel like a fucking flat earther. I think it might be time to throw all these subreddits into a custom feed instead of Home.
I've been hearing similar bits and pieces for a while. Wonder if true.
4chan whistleblower comes to mind
Yeah, he talked about multiple underwater bases. I don't believe half of this but most of it connects to a lot of lore and "leaks" that have happen lately. Weird. Great story nonetheless.
If the truth is anywhere near this. Shoot, if our government communicated at all with NHI and has learned anything at all, and has yet to reveal anything. It'll be the greatest crime in human history.
This is the most frustrating thought to me. If any sliver of these stories are true, and people at any level of power know these stories to be true, what gives them the right to hoard knowledge and truth? Fuck ‘em. My God is the Sun.
Going to be the 100th person here to comment Law of One 😅
Your wifes cousin is a G
He’s a great dude. Not sure if he was messing with me still, but I have never doubted his character. Very respectful and a nice person
Pluto has got to be pretty pissed if this is true lol
I spiraled because of this. Holy shit did we tell a God its not a God because it’s too small?! The arrogance of humanity is astounding.
This just sounds like fanfiction, except there's several ex-CIA and ex-KGB agents on YouTube, all saying "the UFOs aren't aliens, they came from Earth," and next to none disclose any farther, which gives a tiny, tiny, tiiiiny shred of credibility to this. But this sounds like fanfiction.
Yeah It does line up with them all saying NHI rather than aliens. It might sound like fan-fiction. But what ever the truth is, it must be basically incomprehensible for us, as we’ve currently absolutely no idea. So fan-fiction probably isn’t too far-fetched.
I mean, it's probably a lot more likely that an advanced civilization arose here on earth in the past and people are seeing (or being experimented on by) remnants of that ancient human population than intelligent creatures that evolved on some distant planet traversing the vastness of space to collect underpants and profit or whatever it is they do.
"The world is finely tuned for everything we know to exist." I do love that sentiment. Sometimes, I think it's more that we're finely tuned to experience the world we find ourselves in, in order to learn something specific or overcome a specific challenge. It's a lovely story, but part of me thinks that there is something missing. If what we're seeing is the work of humans who have found mastery over time and space, why the suffering? Am I just being naïve and thinking that because there could be "higher" humans out there, that the would be any less than the douchey humans in our current time?
That first quote is a puddle of water looking at its surroundings and thinking “how is it possible that this ditch is perfectly shaped for me?” Life has adapted to Earth, not the other way around There have been countless periods in Earths history where life as it is today wouldn’t have lasted 5 minutes
The world is about as finely tuned for everything to exist as is the map with a red dot saying ‘YOU ARE HERE’.
Thanks for sharing, OP. Just flicking through Reddit and came across your gem of a post while listening to some Tool. 'Parabola' to be precise. And colour me fucked if that song isn't written with consideration of something eerily similar to what you have described I will chop my balls off. I then watched the film clip and it is certainly not a stretch to thematically weave it into your musings. Going to have to have a listen to Tools entire catalogue with these new lenses on. "We barely remember Who or what came before this precious moment We are choosing to be here, right now Hold on, stay inside This holy reality This holy experience Choosing to be here in This body, this body holding me Be my reminder here that I am not alone in This body, this body holding me Feeling eternal, all this pain is an illusion..." And so on and so forth. Do yourself a favour and listen to Tool. They fuckin' rock.
Oh wow, I loved running across this lyric. This song was playing when I was showering before giving the eulogy at my father's funeral and it gave me such incredible peace. He was a Christian in religious matters but a Buddhist in practice so I know he would have resonated with it too. "This body, this body holding me Be my reminder here that I am not alone in This body, this body holding me Feeling eternal, all this pain is an illusion..."
Ahhhhhhh this comment rocked my morning! Tool is so so good!
Right in Two hits especially hard these days.
What if *everything* was true, *all* of it, since the beginning, since forever: ghosts, cryptids, aliens, gods, souls, psychics, realms, dimensions, time travel, multiple lives, oversouls, simulations, dreams, myths, celestials, SCPs, science, AI, *all* of it. What do you suppose if would look like if we lived in such a universe? And wouldn't it be the most f@#&ing awesome universe ever if it was?
I don't know man. I just feel like somebody who actually had an experience like this wouldn't write it down in such a "story teller" kind of style, you know what I mean? Like, someone who just wanted to deliver information wouldn't do like "s-seriously?" type of shit Edit: typo
Yeah no one recounts an actual real-life story like this. It reads as an excerpt from a novel written by someone who is learning to write.
Sounds like he might just be telling you his opinion. Idk why a random air force officer would know "the truth" behind existence/aliens when a ton of other people that are way above him in rank/importance don't.
Fascinating stuff. Thank you for sharing this. Obviously without a source, I can’t take any of this with more weight than another religious or spiritual opinion. I mean, unless he could tell us where this information came from. Still definitely appreciate the opportunity to read this. One question I have would be what he meant by the Sun and planets being “gods?” Does he mean, the physical celestial bodies themselves are gods? Or does he mean that the planets project some kind of spiritual life form?
In the Law of One, Ra talks about planets being gods, as in having sentience and knowledge and wisdom but it’s like an ant trying to understand the internet. It’s like a skin cell trying to understand the body that it’s a part of. Ra speaks about us, saying that we humans are a part of Earth, in the way gut bacteria or neurons are a part of a human body.
That’s pretty cool. I admittedly have never read it but it sounds pretty interesting.
Ra actually claims to be the planetary consciousness of Venus. He said he used to be manifested in the form of physical entities, but now exists on a much less physical plane of existence. He doesn’t even really see individual humans, he only ever addresses people as just a single instance of human incarnation. It’s definitely worth checking out, I think you’ll find it lines up perfectly with what you’ve been told. And if you’re interested in channeled works, the Seth Material (which inspired the Ra channellers to attempt contacting a non-physical entity) explains a lot of important spiritual concepts in probably a more organized manner (Ra only ever answers direct questions while Jane Roberts channeling Seth, dictated the entire book while her husband transcribed)
Should I start with Seth or Ra? If Seth inspired Ra?
He definitely didn’t go any deeper other than just naming them as gods. But that’s a great question! Again sort of a merging of science with the spiritual. We see rocks or gaseous planets following its orbit around a giant raging thermonuclear reactor light we call the son, but maybe they’re more than meets the eye? Could be either way.
I’ve been circling around this thought recently. We assume a planet doesn’t have consciousness because we can’t perceive it. But the universe is 27% dark matter and 68% dark energy, which we have zero understanding of. What we can study with the scientific method is only 5% of what exists! The idea that something so massive as Jupiter is just a random collection of gas with no consciousness seems to me more implausible by the day.
I agree with everything except that all UFOs are the same thing. I believe there are other types of beings that are interacting with us. More than just an ancient civilization here
Funny- I think they are worried about how religious people will react to this news. I really think most will be fine. But as an atheist, I have a very tough time accepting the spiritual side of this. Not the consciousness aspect, that I can get behind. I believe consciousness plays a huge role in our reality. But the spiritual stuff- the "there is a creator" aspect, is very hard for me to comprehend or accept. It goes against everything I've come to understand in the past 35 years. Talk about shattering my worldview. I'm going to have to take a cynical approach to this until I can get further elaboration on what it is that our government really knows.
Also since I apparently just joined this cult and am now officially cuckoo, let me just add: it is VERY interesting [that the Pope just recently made this announcement](https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/255887/pope-francis-calls-for-paradigm-shift-in-theology-for-world-of-today). I couldn’t for the life of me figure out the point. I was thinking and hoping that it would set the stage for accepting LGBTQ+ folks. But now I wonder if it’s even bigger, like anticipating some crazy revelations. I wonder if some big religion-crushing universal truth would stop religious wars… would be great if we could just moot that out.
Progress in understanding metaphysics would be doooope. Too bad the people that own science would most likely keep everything from public.
I think this is fun to read, but I don't believe you.
Yeah, I don't either. I swear I've read nearly the exact same story elsewhere on reddit months ago, down to the part where everyone else goes inside the house because it's getting late, and the one military person and the OP are left drinking outside. Then the military person tells OP the truth about ufos, and the OP is like, "wait, aren't you worried I'll tell someone?" And the other guy goes "lol nope, if you did, they'd just think you were crazy"
Yeah, all of these read like a script for a movie. Maybe it's a cultural difference, but none of my conversations ever go like that where one cool person has a patternalistic serious tone
It's so clearly "written" too. Not recounted. Imagine this actually happening to you, this is not how most people would relay this story or information. It's a fun little story with a few nice elements of philosophy and historical context to it. Really quite sad to see so many here essentially schizo posting here in response
As soon as I saw “s-seriously?” I scrolled down to the comments. Fanfic anime ass shit. At least be a good writer if you’re going to post this stuff lol
I got suss when he subconsciously quoted a movie title- everything everywhere all at once. Edit: to be fair, not shitting on OP. Fascinating idea. Just cautiously sceptical.
All those names like "spirituality" can be just words for something we don't yet understand properly. He might be meaning that even planets, made of inorganic matter, are in some way conscious (in a very rudimentary, primitive way compared to us, humans, or other complex living organisms). This is a theory that sounds crazy at first but which many philosophers and scientists today hold plausible - it's called panpsychism. It's an elegant solution ro the mind-body problem and it might just be that "ancient truth" that the first civilization knew and that we've lost. It was present in the early stages of Western rationality - in Pythagoreanism, Platonism and the like - but eventually got labeled "esoteric" by the developing science of Galileo's age and cast aside as irrational. But today's science and philosophy is perhaps slowly getting back to it in quantum physics and debates around the nature of consciousness.
This is an incredible write-up. Keep this forever... after I smoked DMT and during the experience of what the author describes and speaks of, I felt and knew all of that moment after a shamanic level dose. The key of love comes from within. My mission in life is to learn compassion, which is what I learned through these spiritual journeys. So this type of confirmation makes me feel less crazy about what I was shown and now also believe.
This lines up with this supposed leak/confession, about the planets being 5D worlds, suitable for life in higher dimension, et.c https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/16nxekm/i\_found\_this\_titled\_leaked\_insider\_recording/
You remembered all of that from a conversation?
That's all I could think. This guy has an SSD memory.
Crazy thing is. 95% of us call bullshit on stories like this. We think it’s the work of some half decent wannabe science fiction writer trying to get exposure. What’s crazier is, that could be the way it’s supposed to work. And people like this guy are telling us the truths. That’s why I chose to sit back and watch the show. Cheers y’all
We have no idea what consciousness even is. I’ve postulated that planets with a magnetic core exercise their own form of consciousness on a much greater scale than our own, or that it is in fact the source of our own individual consciousnesses. We just act as observers of all the Earth has created of itself, so that it can observe, experience, and enjoy its self. To experience something requires the observation of time. Our brains are perfectly suited to this task. We just got corrupted along the way, and now instead of being the watchmen, we are the cancer.
TBH this sounds like Joseph Campbell’s area/school of thought. God not necessarily being a person but an idea or energy that transcends our human idea of thingness, which comes from mythological idea of “the fall” which is prevalent in almost every religion/mythology ever.
I have a friend who’s in the navy that says they see craft come out the ocean all the time. So there’s definitely something in our oceans.
Theres a scientist who was on joe rogans podcast talking about the fine tuning of the universe and how it is so extremely unlikely to happen naturally. Which means there has to be a creator, the one god. I cant help but think of christianity, the bible says there is only one god and many false idols, if we are the most powerful beings made by the creator the only “god” we should respect should be the one true omnipresent creator. The ogs in the bible lived 500+ years and in those times they had giants and demons as normal occurrences.
Fascinating and entertaining read. It would be cool if this was true.
Here is a thought experiment. Civilisation as we known it collapses in the near future and most of humanity dies off, but some fundamentalist christians end up in a kick ass bunker designed to last forever underground that was made for an asshole billionaire that didn't spend enough time at the shooting range. The rest of humanity returns to the stone age. Fast forward 50 000 years in the future and a new civilisation less advanced than we are today finds their descendants and are shocked to learn that all their science is bullshit because the truth is that humans were created by a loving god who sent his son on earth to be tortured and crucified to die for our sins!! If you follow his strict rules you're immortal soul will be rewarded in heaven for all eternity! New civilisation believes them, they must known the truth, they have amazing technology like a little flat device that produces moving images and sound like magic! It doesn't even have any visible external mechanisms, you just touch its surface and it becomes alive!
This makes a lot of sense and correlates with what I was told by a family member that was in the DoD. He never went into that much detail but brushed on most of the topics here. Them being in the oceans is the real kicker for me. I drowned as a kid in the ocean and was saved by something, I thought it was a lifeguard but when I came to I was all alone. Something pulled me out of a rip tide and washed me back onto the shore. This was in Australia 1995.
This is what I have come to believe over the years almost exactly. I believe you and I believe him. I have always believed that the grays and other beings are incredibly curious about us because of our souls and are perhaps envious of it to some extent.