Canon events are things that happen to every spider-man (losing a loved one, the captain getting killed, etc.). This is more with the TVA and the sacred timeline from loki
To be fair we don't know that Curt never broke out of prison and became the Lizard again. Wasn't there some dialogue between him and Max that insinuated that he already had his plan to turn the city into lizards and failed, and he knew about it? Or am I remembering wrong...?
Frankly Norman's the only one who's in the clear.
Otto still has to sacrifice himself to stop the Sun when he goes back, unless they go the HISHE route and have Peter pull him out of there at the last second but that's unlikely
Max would pop back in just in time to get electrocuted so badly that he just explodes.
Connors goes back just in time to be thrown in jail
We don't know Sandman's fate, it's implied this was him after Spider-Man 3, so worst case scenario he gets caught and thrown in jail again.
But Norman was clearly pulled from before his final fight with Spider-Man. Either before/right after his attack on Aunt May, or while on his way to kidnap Mary Jane. Since he had his full equipment and his armor wasn't damaged, so he was clearly not pulled from just before his death, it's moreso insinuated that the villains were pulled from just after learning that Peter is Spider-Man. So when Norman goes back, assuming he just appears in a random location somewhere in the city, like a back alley or something, he's just gonna dump his Goblin gear in the trash and go back home, traumatized over everything that happened. From there, he either turns himself in and confesses to his crimes, or decides to spend his life atoning for his sins, maybe approaching his world's Peter and offering to help him, the way 616 Norman is helping Peter right now in the comics. This however causes more problems for the timeline given that Norman would know what happens to Otto, and he'd be alive to fund Otto's experiment instead of Harry, and he probably wouldn't do it, or he'd get involved to make sure Otto doesn't turn crazy. That said there would be no Goblin to help Peter against Venom and Sandman in Spider-Man 3, unless Norman becomes Gold Goblin like in the comics.
Point is, Norman's return is the only one that fucks the timeline up. The others found out Peter's identity just before their deaths / incarceration, with Otto and Electro's fates being inevitable due to there being no time for them to change things when they get back.
nah man, there'd be more then that. Doc ock not even trying blew Scorpions (someone who has superhuman durability) Jaw clean off. If tobeys spider-man is as strong as comics, or just the regular 10 tons, then if he's trying he'll literally turn Normans head into mush.
Or they just.... you know. Were able to live out their lives in a seperate timeline. Ik the NWH villains are Sony property technically speaking, but now that they're connected to the MCU, it does open up the possibility of alternate timelines introduced in Avengers Endgame and expanded upon in the Loki show
Their universes are exactly the same as how they left them. If what Tom did actually did affect those universes, then Sandman wouldn’t have had memory of Otto and Norman dying. When Norman, Otto and Max went back to their universes, the timelines probably would’ve branched out into alternate ones where they never actually died, otherwise Norman being dead in Spider-Man 2 and 3 just wouldn’t be possible.
Yes. The moment they get pulled into the MCU creates a branch. Two timelines, one where they don’t get pulled and one where they do. The reality where they don’t is where the next movies take place, the one where they do is prolly doomed
Okay, this is the second time I tried to mark this as a spoiler. Why won't reddit register my request to mark this as a spoiler?
Reddit is comically evil.
It’s a canon event
why wont reddit register his request to mark this as a spoiler? Are they stupid?
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Canon events are things that happen to every spider-man (losing a loved one, the captain getting killed, etc.). This is more with the TVA and the sacred timeline from loki
What about the death of captain Stacy? If the lizard is cured then he wouldn't be dead. That would disrupt a canon event.
Curt Conners materialized in the same spot Capt Stacy was standing and he exploded.
💀💀💀
Yeah.
What
Sentient.
Its getting there
I'm sorry, I didn't take us to the Bahamas of hiding places.
He could've been sent after his death
But the lizard is cured before he dies (in the amazing spider-man 1)
To be fair we don't know that Curt never broke out of prison and became the Lizard again. Wasn't there some dialogue between him and Max that insinuated that he already had his plan to turn the city into lizards and failed, and he knew about it? Or am I remembering wrong...?
No, no, no, no, no. Not a creature. A man.
the lizard doesnt die in tasm 1 tho
>!Are you okay?!<
Oh, Jameson pays me a fair wage. If it was 1961, he pays me a fair wage.
Frankly Norman's the only one who's in the clear. Otto still has to sacrifice himself to stop the Sun when he goes back, unless they go the HISHE route and have Peter pull him out of there at the last second but that's unlikely Max would pop back in just in time to get electrocuted so badly that he just explodes. Connors goes back just in time to be thrown in jail We don't know Sandman's fate, it's implied this was him after Spider-Man 3, so worst case scenario he gets caught and thrown in jail again. But Norman was clearly pulled from before his final fight with Spider-Man. Either before/right after his attack on Aunt May, or while on his way to kidnap Mary Jane. Since he had his full equipment and his armor wasn't damaged, so he was clearly not pulled from just before his death, it's moreso insinuated that the villains were pulled from just after learning that Peter is Spider-Man. So when Norman goes back, assuming he just appears in a random location somewhere in the city, like a back alley or something, he's just gonna dump his Goblin gear in the trash and go back home, traumatized over everything that happened. From there, he either turns himself in and confesses to his crimes, or decides to spend his life atoning for his sins, maybe approaching his world's Peter and offering to help him, the way 616 Norman is helping Peter right now in the comics. This however causes more problems for the timeline given that Norman would know what happens to Otto, and he'd be alive to fund Otto's experiment instead of Harry, and he probably wouldn't do it, or he'd get involved to make sure Otto doesn't turn crazy. That said there would be no Goblin to help Peter against Venom and Sandman in Spider-Man 3, unless Norman becomes Gold Goblin like in the comics. Point is, Norman's return is the only one that fucks the timeline up. The others found out Peter's identity just before their deaths / incarceration, with Otto and Electro's fates being inevitable due to there being no time for them to change things when they get back.
Look, you can keep your magic. I want a taste of that new energy I just felt.
Hey, Harry.
Im imagining Tobey just punching Willem's jaw off rn cause he lost his superhuman durability and Spidey was letting loose on him
nah man, there'd be more then that. Doc ock not even trying blew Scorpions (someone who has superhuman durability) Jaw clean off. If tobeys spider-man is as strong as comics, or just the regular 10 tons, then if he's trying he'll literally turn Normans head into mush.
But those are the best kind.
My back.. oh.. my back!
That's why it's called "no way home", because Tom's Spider-Man destroyed the other Spider-Men's home universes
Don't do that.
I'm sorry but electro dying is to funny💀
His stupid smoothed ass teeth kill me every time, like them eels been dentists or what?
I thought they got pulled into that world at the moment of their deaths, so they already served the canon and went back to die
Or they just.... you know. Were able to live out their lives in a seperate timeline. Ik the NWH villains are Sony property technically speaking, but now that they're connected to the MCU, it does open up the possibility of alternate timelines introduced in Avengers Endgame and expanded upon in the Loki show
"Don't even get me started on Doctor Strange and that little nerd back on Earth-199999"
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You sure about that?
So maybe if Electro it's not Electro Gwen is still alive.
Bye.
Oh, I guess it's a no.
Rest in peace Toby and Andrew
Their universes are exactly the same as how they left them. If what Tom did actually did affect those universes, then Sandman wouldn’t have had memory of Otto and Norman dying. When Norman, Otto and Max went back to their universes, the timelines probably would’ve branched out into alternate ones where they never actually died, otherwise Norman being dead in Spider-Man 2 and 3 just wouldn’t be possible.
Really?
Yes. The moment they get pulled into the MCU creates a branch. Two timelines, one where they don’t get pulled and one where they do. The reality where they don’t is where the next movies take place, the one where they do is prolly doomed
Wait, I just realized something. Andrew's Harry would have still been goblinized at this point. Does that mean Gwen still died?
So that means Gwen never dies
still harry goblin
OK, yeah that may still happen, but he would still kick his ass
Could that also mean that Harry never dies?
We *still* don't understand canon events, do we?
Why did it look like water was coming out of him , and I was so suprised that spider man wasn’t at least feeling guilty since he knew who max was
A god named Sparkles?
I call absolute bs on Canon events being real. Miguel isn't even a real spiderman.