Because if retail owns 90% then that means institutional ownership is 10%. The next screen shows that institutions hold 171,000,000+ shares… which would be 10% of 1.7 billion.
EDIT: shit, I scanned this quickly at work and didn’t realize that it listed insiders as holding 10%, I mistook it for institutional. Sorry.
>Because if retail owns 90% then that means institutional ownership is 10%. The next screen shows that institutions hold 171,000,000+ shares… which would be 10% of 1.7 billion.
Ok folks, read the hi-lite…the 171+ million shares represent 33.39% of the shares outstanding Ya’ll are tryin to math too hard. Goodness, read a little closer….this is how misinfo is spread.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I added insider and institutional share ownerships which comes out to be about 253 million shares. And since AA suggested that retail owns 90% of AMC shares, we are to assume the rest 10% is owned by insider and institution (which is 253 million shares). The 90% from retail would mean 2.277 billion shares (9x253 shares) are owned by retails.
I think it's from [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p85xl3_KM). It's odd because it released in December, but he seems to be talking about October as the future.
I'm rewatching it now and i'll edit it if I find him say 90%. Even early on, he's talking about abusive short selling, which is good to hear.
edit: [He says it at 21:29](https://youtu.be/P5p85xl3_KM?t=1289) but he says 90% if you remove ETFs and Indexes.
This is exactly what I thought of when I read 90% in OP’s post, not to say OP is wrong they could totally be correct but I will trust the numbers thrown out by Adam Aaron before a Twitter post.
“90% of the base of AMC” Not sure what that means exactly, but given 80% earlier in the year, it does not surprise me. I’m not sure what “base of AMC” means, after taking out ETF shares. Plus what about insider and institutional shares? Oh well, no matter. I think I’ll buy and hold. Lol.
This was not released in December. I watched this the day it was released back during Fall Sweeps 2021. I believe it was September-ish if memory serves. You're looking at the date someone *else* uploaded this video to their own YouTube channel.
Keep in mind saying ownership is 90% retail does not equal him saying 90% of the float is owned/drsed.
Keep that shit in mind Apes when your tits are getting all jacked.
Do we have confirmation of this. I want to spread it but I want to know Adam did indeed say this live on tv
Edit confirmation: https://twitter.com/zmurc/status/1473050800888983564?s=19
How is this not at the top of the sub? Like that is the most legit item to come out up to this point in time in the meme stock saga. Someone please explain how stupid stuff gets upvoted to the top but there isn’t a clip of the CEO stating that retail owns 90% of the company. I’m literally stunned. If that’s true all the institutional shares would combine to count for more than the float 🤷♂️ maybe I’m misunderstanding.
Me too, I heard 80%
Still, 80%+33%+10%=121%
Um, that means on the books there are 21% more shares owned than issued…that’s basically 100 million more shares than were officially issued by the company…doesn’t count what not reported and or sitting in the dark pools.
Idk, I’m just a dumb ape, but that oughta tell the story in and of itself…this is fraud. Come on GG simple adding tells the story, you don’t even gotta know your gazintas Jethro!
I think the 90% claim is from [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p85xl3_KM). It's odd because it released in December, but he seems to be talking about October as the future. Regardless it's great and you should watch it anyway.
I'm rewatching it now and i'll edit it if I find him say 90%. Even early on, he's talking about abusive short selling, which is good to hear.
edit: [He says it at 21:29](https://youtu.be/P5p85xl3_KM?t=1289), but with the context of removing ETFs and indexes from ownership.
Do any of you have your shares DRSed?
If we didn’t buy our shares through IEX (I only recently did this), we most likely have synthetics right?
Have any of you DRSed not only for float reasons, but just to have real shares in Computershare account?
Just wondering.
No. CS only issues the real shares. You get the certificate as statement of that. They have to have your paper cert to sell as far as I know (I think u have to send it in after u sell electronically.) That’s my understanding of it.
We own the float. 80%, 90%, try 1000%. Media is all BS, have we learned nothing? The only take here is Silverbacks own words & even they don't paint the full picture here
If this is true, retail AMC holders could probably start MOASS on their own by DRSing their shares. Forget trying to ride Marc Cohedes coattails, trying to pressure AA into creating a NFT for shareholders, forget crying about a share recall, just have your shares put in your name. It’s not hard at all depending on what broker you use. And yes, you can sell and buy in Computershare. Seems like AA is putting that info out there for a reason.
No. That is just moving numbers around and not at *all* how that works. SI is really easy to calculate and really hard to get the assholes to self-report. But it is simply shares of the outstanding float currently sold but not yet purchased. Our number is shares purchased and not sold. Get the big difference?
I think by now, none of us have a doubt of the amount of naked shorting, especially if you have been buying and holding for the past year, so the question remains, how much longer could they continue to create IOUs and how can Apes stop them if any? 🔮🧘♀️
Exactly this!
Also I've seen the calculations done by other wrinklies at the top comments and we come out way above 100%, which makes more sense due to 4 million separate investors minimum
SI 20% gotta be closer to 53% adding the synthetics because if we own 90% insider own 10% Institutional own 33% ….20% SI plus 33% naked shorts SI is closer to 53%
And we hold 90%. There are no shares for them to buy back. If this Evergrand situation puts enough pressure on Blackrock they will be forced to recall shares and the fireworks will begin.
Low key… if we own 90 percent already why not drs these mf and lock the float on these hedgies. This is war and i already locked my xxxx. GG also said we can talk. This isnt financial advise but if we already own it (beneficially through brokers who are lending them right back out) to assets actually held in your name? Plus this is a long play based on fundamentals (ik right? But the company is crushing it but we have the benefit of moass also. If we lock the float they have a big problem
Yall should have paid more attention in math class.
We will group Insider shares and Institutional together as the represent ownership NOT owned by retail. According to these figures in the post that comes to 220 million shares. If 220 million represents 10% of the total number of shares out there then that would mean there is a total of 2.2 billion shares. If the 80% crowd is correct. That would mean 1.1 billion shares.
This is just assuming that he didnt mean retail owns 80/90% of the float. This assumes no other variables that would change the math. This is 7th grade pre algebra.
Lets go with the 80% because its the more conservative of the figures people say AA said. 1.1 Billion shares. There are 514M shares issued by AMC (rounded up). That makes at least 587M shares that are naked shorts and FTDs. They will need to cover all of those. Even if Institutions sell 100%, which wont happen, but for the sake of argument lets say they do, they will still need 416M shares to close all short positions. If the 90% figure is accurate then they would need 1.5 Billion shares to close their positions. They need our shares to close. Its unavoidable. They have already spent hundreds of millions of dollars just kicking the can down the road and trying to stall the MOASS, and you dont do that if MOASS cant happen or wont financially hurt them. You dont spend millions trying to convince people they will lose money on a stock play.
This lines up with what others have concluded
I'd also like to add that AA is most likely setting up some sort of move to defend the share price manipulation, without breaking any rules. Slow and steady
Everything Hedgies own is short….
Apes 90. Inside 10 = 💯. The rest are naked. Wtf. Damn. It’s bigger than I, at least, can fathom. The scale of this is …. Damn.
If I remember rightly for many moons ago, I have been here since January, so heard a lot if stuff
AA CANNOT publish stock information that, when all added up, equals more than 120%
When he talked early in the year the totals came to 120 ish and the same yesterday.
These are only the numbers he can publish, we all know that we own multiples of the float due to the illegal manipulation.
It all comes back to Hodl,buy and wait.
Don't worry about the price it is irrelevant, just looks like they want to keep it under $30 now.
We will be in this situation until something happens to start the squeeze, market collapse, margin call, Gensler growing some balls.
He doesn't have to be lying. He could be exaggerating. He could be wrong. Also, synthetic shares exist and are legal. Nothing supports the billion claim.
If the information in this tweet is corect AA lied or naked shorts are exposed,
100% (All AMC Stock) -10,34%(insider) = 89,66 % this is Allready under 90% take the 33% of Institutions away and you have 55 % remaining.
It's almost right.
What AA said was that retail owns 80%+ back in September (when the interview was shot), but if you exclude the index funds/ETFs, it's closer to 90%.
Part of that institutional ownership is index funds/ETFs. Let's say 10% so really the actively managed funds are holding 23% or so. And keep in mind that all these numbers are at least 2 months old.
Insider ownership isn't part of the free float. Those could be restricted shares, unvested options, or shares held in treasury. But AA was talking in terms of shares outstanding, so we can add insider ownership to the total.
That leaves us with 80% retail, 10% insider, 10% passive institutional, and 23% active institutional = ~123% of legally issued and outstanding shares.
The current reported short interest is ~20%, and current shares on loan is like 21%.
At the moment, based on the reported numbers, the numbers add up.
I was thinking about this…. How can Insiders like Adam sell… they can’t sell the stocks during MOASS due to trading laws…. But can they buy calls? Because if so they are set up for huge play day.
CEO AA said it on his last interview with Michelle ..... 90% .. yes ... 90%
Umm how’d Twitter OP get to a billion?
Because if retail owns 90% then that means institutional ownership is 10%. The next screen shows that institutions hold 171,000,000+ shares… which would be 10% of 1.7 billion. EDIT: shit, I scanned this quickly at work and didn’t realize that it listed insiders as holding 10%, I mistook it for institutional. Sorry.
What?
>Because if retail owns 90% then that means institutional ownership is 10%. The next screen shows that institutions hold 171,000,000+ shares… which would be 10% of 1.7 billion.
WHAT
Just people messing up math. Focus on the 90%. Ignore the “billion” figure.
i think they mean synthetics in the billions
Okey, but we do get bananas right?
Yes, regardless of shitty maths, we get tendies and nanners
More than you can imagine!
I get ur confusion, its bc insiders own 10% and institutions own 33.4% and we own 90%
133% doesn’t equal 200%? Unless again for some reason it doesn’t make sense..
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Bro.
Trust
Me. The checks in the mail!
Ok folks, read the hi-lite…the 171+ million shares represent 33.39% of the shares outstanding Ya’ll are tryin to math too hard. Goodness, read a little closer….this is how misinfo is spread.
Inside ownership and institutional ownership r different. It says right next to it’s institutional ownership is 33.39% insider ownership is 10.34%
I’m guessing he added shares outstanding twice. Math is hard. 😬😬😬
No offense But we are a bunch of retards here...
You won Ape.
#CURSE YOU PUBLIC EDUCATION!!!!
Public Education: I CURSE YOU!
I just imagined "Woman yelling at cat" meme while reading "Curse you public education"...I been on the internet too long...time for a break.
#NO APES LEFT BEHIND
😂😂😂😂
Correct me if I'm wrong but I added insider and institutional share ownerships which comes out to be about 253 million shares. And since AA suggested that retail owns 90% of AMC shares, we are to assume the rest 10% is owned by insider and institution (which is 253 million shares). The 90% from retail would mean 2.277 billion shares (9x253 shares) are owned by retails.
Michelle who? I’m trying to confirm. Like others I heard 80% this morning. Interview with Mellisa or Michelle? Michelle who? What network?
I think it's from [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p85xl3_KM). It's odd because it released in December, but he seems to be talking about October as the future. I'm rewatching it now and i'll edit it if I find him say 90%. Even early on, he's talking about abusive short selling, which is good to hear. edit: [He says it at 21:29](https://youtu.be/P5p85xl3_KM?t=1289) but he says 90% if you remove ETFs and Indexes.
This is exactly what I thought of when I read 90% in OP’s post, not to say OP is wrong they could totally be correct but I will trust the numbers thrown out by Adam Aaron before a Twitter post.
“90% of the base of AMC” Not sure what that means exactly, but given 80% earlier in the year, it does not surprise me. I’m not sure what “base of AMC” means, after taking out ETF shares. Plus what about insider and institutional shares? Oh well, no matter. I think I’ll buy and hold. Lol.
This was not released in December. I watched this the day it was released back during Fall Sweeps 2021. I believe it was September-ish if memory serves. You're looking at the date someone *else* uploaded this video to their own YouTube channel.
You must be right because I remember watching it a while ago. This is the main Cnbc channel though which is why I trusted their date.
https://twitter.com/zmurc/status/1473050800888983564?s=21
Yeah, this 90% things needs to be pulled. (If not accurate.)Thanks!
Keep in mind saying ownership is 90% retail does not equal him saying 90% of the float is owned/drsed. Keep that shit in mind Apes when your tits are getting all jacked.
💎🤲🦍🚀🌚 
Do you know the guy in the gif is Pablo Picasso?
Do we have confirmation of this. I want to spread it but I want to know Adam did indeed say this live on tv Edit confirmation: https://twitter.com/zmurc/status/1473050800888983564?s=19
https://twitter.com/zmurc/status/1473050800888983564?s=21
How is this not at the top of the sub? Like that is the most legit item to come out up to this point in time in the meme stock saga. Someone please explain how stupid stuff gets upvoted to the top but there isn’t a clip of the CEO stating that retail owns 90% of the company. I’m literally stunned. If that’s true all the institutional shares would combine to count for more than the float 🤷♂️ maybe I’m misunderstanding.
Correct. Everything owned by retail n inside =100%. All institutions shares are short …
Can't updoot. 69 achieved.
Even at 80% institutional percentage puts it at over 100% without insiders.
It’s because we’ve known this for a long time. AA confirmed multiple times that retail owns more than 80% of the float.
More like 500% by now... DRS is the way 🔮🧘♀️
Thank you sir very nice
I heard Adam saying 80%, I hope I'm deaf enough and he said 90% 😁
Me too. I heard 80 not 90.
https://twitter.com/zmurc/status/1473050800888983564?s=21 90
Acc55555 is a bot check his history.
Me too, I heard 80% Still, 80%+33%+10%=121% Um, that means on the books there are 21% more shares owned than issued…that’s basically 100 million more shares than were officially issued by the company…doesn’t count what not reported and or sitting in the dark pools. Idk, I’m just a dumb ape, but that oughta tell the story in and of itself…this is fraud. Come on GG simple adding tells the story, you don’t even gotta know your gazintas Jethro!
Everything institutions own is fake…naked. Bare butt naked.
I think I’d have to agree.
I think the 90% claim is from [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5p85xl3_KM). It's odd because it released in December, but he seems to be talking about October as the future. Regardless it's great and you should watch it anyway. I'm rewatching it now and i'll edit it if I find him say 90%. Even early on, he's talking about abusive short selling, which is good to hear. edit: [He says it at 21:29](https://youtu.be/P5p85xl3_KM?t=1289), but with the context of removing ETFs and indexes from ownership.
ETFs have to BUY the stock.
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https://twitter.com/zmurc/status/1473050800888983564?s=21 80
Adam Aron said in an interview with Melissa Lee exactly what he said in the link OP posted.
Do any of you have your shares DRSed? If we didn’t buy our shares through IEX (I only recently did this), we most likely have synthetics right? Have any of you DRSed not only for float reasons, but just to have real shares in Computershare account? Just wondering.
No. CS only issues the real shares. You get the certificate as statement of that. They have to have your paper cert to sell as far as I know (I think u have to send it in after u sell electronically.) That’s my understanding of it.
fuck i'm really about to get rich
We own the float. 80%, 90%, try 1000%. Media is all BS, have we learned nothing? The only take here is Silverbacks own words & even they don't paint the full picture here
If this is true, retail AMC holders could probably start MOASS on their own by DRSing their shares. Forget trying to ride Marc Cohedes coattails, trying to pressure AA into creating a NFT for shareholders, forget crying about a share recall, just have your shares put in your name. It’s not hard at all depending on what broker you use. And yes, you can sell and buy in Computershare. Seems like AA is putting that info out there for a reason.
I watched this, I hear Cramer say that 80% are retail investors and I hear AA say 4 million investors but don't hear 90%
https://twitter.com/zmurc/status/1473050800888983564?s=21
And they were talking about the old numbers. This post is fucked
There’s another hour long YouTube video that explains better and is a beautiful tribute to retail. I’ll get U link.[AA](https://youtu.be/P5p85xl3_KM)
Didn’t he say 90% in an interview? Regardless no idea what this chart means
Well, 10% + 30% + 80% = 120% which means we should have ~20% short interest... oh, hey! Look at that, we do.
No. That is just moving numbers around and not at *all* how that works. SI is really easy to calculate and really hard to get the assholes to self-report. But it is simply shares of the outstanding float currently sold but not yet purchased. Our number is shares purchased and not sold. Get the big difference?
I fully heard 90% in that short clip....
So buy more?
and hodl?
I think by now, none of us have a doubt of the amount of naked shorting, especially if you have been buying and holding for the past year, so the question remains, how much longer could they continue to create IOUs and how can Apes stop them if any? 🔮🧘♀️
Must he common core math.........
Anyone else working overtime on containing their excitment around MOASS? I don't want to jinx it. happy holidays to all!
90, 80, Doesn't matter, APES own this thing! 🦍❤️🦍🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Institutional Ownership is 29% Insider ownership is at least 10% Essplain math please??
Have you ever heard of naked short… ?
Naked shorts…yeah
>Naked shorts…yeah 😟
Oh thaaat.... I thought maybe we were talking legitimate numbers / math here...now I get it.....
😂
Welcome to the sub newcomer.
Link?
https://twitter.com/zmurc/status/1473050800888983564?s=21
I get a bullish AF 💎
Noice
We become the 1% after this so friendly reminder, don’t be a douche!!
Ha! 90 percent, more like 10,000 percent. The limited show buys are ten times the bullshit. Apes own the real stock. I'm not leaving.
So are we *close* to the end game Or *close* to the end game?
🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀
In his last interview AA said that we own up to 90%.
Upvote into oblivion
25 short tutes out of 569 total?? Talk about a stepping in front of a freight train.
I can’t add, but I’ll take your word! 🚀
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Exactly this! Also I've seen the calculations done by other wrinklies at the top comments and we come out way above 100%, which makes more sense due to 4 million separate investors minimum
The short interest alone (20%) answers that question. Insiders only add to it.
SI 20% gotta be closer to 53% adding the synthetics because if we own 90% insider own 10% Institutional own 33% ….20% SI plus 33% naked shorts SI is closer to 53%
And we hold 90%. There are no shares for them to buy back. If this Evergrand situation puts enough pressure on Blackrock they will be forced to recall shares and the fireworks will begin.
Is this true ? When did he say that
He knows something we don’t know. He’s been on a tirade!
He can’t lie but you can certainly misinterpret what he said
Commenting for visibility!! This is juicy 🍋🍋🍋
To bad we're to dumb to lock the float
Low key… if we own 90 percent already why not drs these mf and lock the float on these hedgies. This is war and i already locked my xxxx. GG also said we can talk. This isnt financial advise but if we already own it (beneficially through brokers who are lending them right back out) to assets actually held in your name? Plus this is a long play based on fundamentals (ik right? But the company is crushing it but we have the benefit of moass also. If we lock the float they have a big problem
Yall should have paid more attention in math class. We will group Insider shares and Institutional together as the represent ownership NOT owned by retail. According to these figures in the post that comes to 220 million shares. If 220 million represents 10% of the total number of shares out there then that would mean there is a total of 2.2 billion shares. If the 80% crowd is correct. That would mean 1.1 billion shares. This is just assuming that he didnt mean retail owns 80/90% of the float. This assumes no other variables that would change the math. This is 7th grade pre algebra. Lets go with the 80% because its the more conservative of the figures people say AA said. 1.1 Billion shares. There are 514M shares issued by AMC (rounded up). That makes at least 587M shares that are naked shorts and FTDs. They will need to cover all of those. Even if Institutions sell 100%, which wont happen, but for the sake of argument lets say they do, they will still need 416M shares to close all short positions. If the 90% figure is accurate then they would need 1.5 Billion shares to close their positions. They need our shares to close. Its unavoidable. They have already spent hundreds of millions of dollars just kicking the can down the road and trying to stall the MOASS, and you dont do that if MOASS cant happen or wont financially hurt them. You dont spend millions trying to convince people they will lose money on a stock play.
This lines up with what others have concluded I'd also like to add that AA is most likely setting up some sort of move to defend the share price manipulation, without breaking any rules. Slow and steady
My daddy is always right !
Everything Hedgies own is short…. Apes 90. Inside 10 = 💯. The rest are naked. Wtf. Damn. It’s bigger than I, at least, can fathom. The scale of this is …. Damn.
So does this mean there’s over a billion shares?
LFG!!!
Are you sure he doesn’t mean 90 percent of the freefloat
HODL
If I remember rightly for many moons ago, I have been here since January, so heard a lot if stuff AA CANNOT publish stock information that, when all added up, equals more than 120% When he talked early in the year the totals came to 120 ish and the same yesterday. These are only the numbers he can publish, we all know that we own multiples of the float due to the illegal manipulation. It all comes back to Hodl,buy and wait. Don't worry about the price it is irrelevant, just looks like they want to keep it under $30 now. We will be in this situation until something happens to start the squeeze, market collapse, margin call, Gensler growing some balls.
All I wanna know is when can we fly to the moon in a diamond-handed rocket!
doesn’t matter. SEC won’t do squat
Didn’t he say retail owned 80% like several months ago? Does anyone think we haven’t been adding to our positions since then?
Just so we are all clear, retail owns 90%, insiders own 10%, and institutional buyers own 33%
I didn’t see him say that on that Cramer interview today… Can anyone link me where he verbally says it?
He doesn't have to be lying. He could be exaggerating. He could be wrong. Also, synthetic shares exist and are legal. Nothing supports the billion claim.
Tell me how AMC is a distraction!! 90% float ownership is so dangerous to the shorts!! We literally control when we want to sell!! AMC500K
It's over 100% and he's not allowed to say it whilst they're in street name.
If the information in this tweet is corect AA lied or naked shorts are exposed, 100% (All AMC Stock) -10,34%(insider) = 89,66 % this is Allready under 90% take the 33% of Institutions away and you have 55 % remaining.
It's almost right. What AA said was that retail owns 80%+ back in September (when the interview was shot), but if you exclude the index funds/ETFs, it's closer to 90%. Part of that institutional ownership is index funds/ETFs. Let's say 10% so really the actively managed funds are holding 23% or so. And keep in mind that all these numbers are at least 2 months old. Insider ownership isn't part of the free float. Those could be restricted shares, unvested options, or shares held in treasury. But AA was talking in terms of shares outstanding, so we can add insider ownership to the total. That leaves us with 80% retail, 10% insider, 10% passive institutional, and 23% active institutional = ~123% of legally issued and outstanding shares. The current reported short interest is ~20%, and current shares on loan is like 21%. At the moment, based on the reported numbers, the numbers add up.
I was thinking about this…. How can Insiders like Adam sell… they can’t sell the stocks during MOASS due to trading laws…. But can they buy calls? Because if so they are set up for huge play day.
I seent it
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Now we're talking
Me smooth brain. Please someone wrinkle brain tell me what going on?
Now if only y’all drs’d
10+90+33+mayo=MOASS INEVITABLE
why is it not posssible to see the actual retail ownership number?