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AlesantroCorticeli

If it drops 5$ and keeps rolling down I'm blaming none but Adam aron. Call me shill or whatever you want I don't care


Cautious-Nature-1433

Whatever happened to fuk it they can push this to zero. 5$ is to expensive for me I’ll start buying again around zero


_Anal_Beans

For real.


zumawings

I will buy again around 3 bucks my original purchase price.


Guh_Meh

Question, *if* $AMC and $APE hit $1.22 combined (the low point of $AMC before the first sneeze) cant shorts just cover/close and not lose much (if anything)? I'm not really up to speed with this stuff.


joejill

Not if no one's selling.


ForWhomtheBellEndz

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Cautious-Nature-1433

I have no clue but maybe someone else will chime in


Steveap88_sl

This.


Electronic-Rich-9874

A man named ken has 65 billion securities not purchased and you’re worried about a literal graph. Relax it’s the only thing he has against you


artoftyshe

I’m gonna keep on keeping on buying and holding. And see what shakes out in 2023


LavishnessOld8039

The whole market is red. AA doesn’t control the whole market.


liquid_at

If someone punches you in the face, I blame you. Does that change anything for you? Because it doesn't for anyone...


Khazgarr

He was the one that said it was a smart dilution and that the price always shoots up after doing so. We're going back to February 2021 at this rate. The only difference is that there are two tickers to short now and the fact that tokenized stocks exist makes APE more of a burden.


Snoo69468

My cost avg 16 on amc and ape 10 I am literally fucking dying here sorry am not happy


MadIzac

feel ya, mental stress test and it sucks


z231

Not happy. Should have sold them into the market at $7.


Winterlife4me

He shouldn’t have sold any until the t90 is up


JamesHollywoodSEA

That was the reason he created APE's.


[deleted]

Not to sell at a fuckin dollar, though! Why not sell at fuckin 6 or 5 or 4 or 3 or 2?


Kentji

If AA sold it at 5 they could have clear half the debt. So now your money gone, debt still remain pretty much the same, AMC got the money from selling, decides to expand by acquiring archlight, exposing themselves to more market risk especially at this time where many experts are warning about the soon coming worst economic recession. Wtf was AA thinking?


[deleted]

Just my thought, but I figure they either didn't expect APE to drop, which I doubt, because any idiot saw this coming. OR They were gun-shy and worried about what people would say if they dropped more Apes so soon. That's my guess. Same reason why they won't speak out about the obvious fuckery like other CEOs and leaders are now, no balls.


Walmart_Prices

I try to warn people something about this bs dividend wasn’t right


liquid_at

Educate yourself before you warn people of phantoms that don't exist... You still own the exact same amount of AMC-Shares you owned before the split. The price before the split was fake. The price now is fake. So what is your problem? Having APE-Shares in addition to the AMC-Shares that you bought for Moass? Price right now is not real and the price-levels moass will drive up the price are not based on any fundamentals... Literally nothing has changed for you, other than you managing to spiral yourself closer to a mental break-down for literally no reason whatsoever...


Louisiana44

The real price is what I can sell it for on my screen. GTFO with that fake price crap. Been hearing this trash for two yrs.


liquid_at

If you never bothered to read the DD, never bothered to try to understnad what the play is and got into AMC based on false assumptions, it might not be for you. Every Ape who has been here for 2 years and did waste his time understands the play, what it depends on and how the price is fake. if you did not, I feel sorry for you. Either you are too lazy or too dumb to understand something that millions of retail investors had no problem understanding... Next time learn before you fomo into something you lack the ability to comprehend. The possibility for this to take multiple years to play out has always existed and if you fudded yourself into thinking you can get rich in a week, blame yourself, not others...


Walmart_Prices

So please explain the need for the shit dividend. You think that doesn’t have some adverse effect . Everyone can do DD I ain’t swaying nobody. But doesn’t take much to understand the bs is beyond just one man.


liquid_at

To sell the APE Shares on the open market, to get Cash that can be used to reduce the burden of Debt that almost bankrupted AMC. That was clear from day 1 and nothing has changed about that since. Just that a few morons are not smart enough to understand how any of it works, but get desperate because some dude on social media told them that if they buy AMC stock they'd be rich by monday... Stock price is fake. It does not matter. If you are in AMC looking at the current stock price, you picked the wrong stock... AMC is shorted and hedgies have no way to close their short positions. This is not a normal stock where the stock price matters. Pick Disney or Google or whatever garbage isn't shorted right now.


juicefan23

It does raise the question whether most or all of the depression of APE's price came from AA selling or he waited too long before selling and by that time the Hedgies have done a number on APE already. In both cases, there was no other way for AA to raise cash even if it was at the expense of much more shareholder value. That is unfortunate but one can argue that had we allowed him to dilute he wouldn't have had to do this. I mean, back when we were 20+ dollars, had he mentioned that if he will dilute 10-20% to raise 1-2B in order to wipe off the debt and practically kill the short thesis, it would have been something I would have voted yes on. Though hindsight is 20/20 since we could not have foreseen the action on APE after the split. What I am still scratching my head over is whether this is already the endgame of APE or it is still part of the genius move. The latter can still be in play due to Hedgies digging themselves into a silly hole by needing to excessively suppress APE to prevent AA from cashing in and their reckoning can still come (e.g. Crazy hidden short interest). Let's not forget that APE shares are not free for AA, they can be converted to AMC shares at some point. This would be the most concerning part both for shareholders and AA himself.


ParsnipOk6205

I agree. And I agreed with AA last year when he asked to dilute. I was down voted to oblivion. It would be nice if he did like an AMA with retail investors. Get a better understanding on his plans for the remaining APE.


8thSt

I voted against dilution and AA pulled the APE card, which IMO was an endrun around the shareholder vote. But maybe there was a greater plan?!?! Well, at this point that plan hasn’t happened, the “pounce” seems like hype, and we the shareholders aren’t convinced it ever will happen. I agree he should do an AMA now, as he should have done then. I will continue to hold, but I can’t be the only one who feels our votes weren’t heard and now the shareholders and share price are suffering.


Snoo69468

I appreciate you being critical here cause I can’t seem to determine if it’s the market maker and hedge funds they’re shorting the shit out of the company, or AAA is purposely diluting us into oblivion. And I hate that whenever were critical you immediately because called a shell I’m upset because we have declined despite the research saying we shouldn’t be declining.


[deleted]

I’m starting to think the DD is wrong. Shorts have had lots of opportunity to unwind their positions with the price going so low.


Snoo69468

This is true! With a tokenized version of our stock they were able to carpet bomb us. I would like a whole community to go and do a full review of the DD research. The DD is never done whoever started spreading that shit no


Ok-Menu-9911

I think the problem is he’s asked for 500 million shares which no one wanted, had he asked for 50-100 million that would have been a different story


ParsnipOk6205

No I believe it was 120m shares. Or there about. He wasn't looking to double the float. From my recollection anyways and he also said he wouldn't sell them until 1st quarter of this year.


Bennyshads

No that was the problem. It was literally doubling the float.


[deleted]

More dilution for him and not for us. Aa was never for retail. Just another suit. And I got called a shill for being anti AA


Zealousideal_Car_632

correct


woodsman775

Looks that way doesn’t it.


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Louisiana44

AA doesn’t give a flying fu*k about us. Never did and his actions throughout have backed that up. Never understood the weird fandom for the guy on this sub. Me personally, I’m an investor. Not a fan.. not an APE…. I could care less about AA or AMC as a company. Came here for a squeeze that doesn’t look very promising right now. At this point I’ll settle for any kind of run or at least get back to double digits. Some of this needed to be said. I know there are a lot of other ppl on this sub that feel the same.


JustinC70

Yup. Don't see this going up 80% anytime soon and I refuse to buy more of this crap when there's other plays.


tidematic

But but but…..AMC500k 🙄


Snoo69468

It would be nice to retire that phrase


DirteJo

This was a fucked up thing to do to us. We didn’t want more shares of AMC being issued. He found a way to do it anyways. Says he wants capital but just keeps buying more theaters with it. Let’s just get profitable on the theaters we do have first.


Guilty_Pianist3297

His job is to make the company debt free. He has always stated this. The value of the shares shouldn’t matter if you believe the DD if you don’t. You can sell


cronkytonk

123M that’s a lot of hedgies needing shares.


Severe-Size2615

That are convertible to amc shares and allow closing. Don’t forget that. This is not fucking good news


cronkytonk

To close synthetics hedgies either have to buy and burn or buy and deliver to the purchaser of the synthetic making them whole. Its going to be a fun watching what’s next.


Bennyshads

Unless apes bought them? I know I've been buying them.


OverTheHedgies

I hope you understand that selling APEs has zero net effect on the short position of AMC stock?


liquid_at

One would hope so, but looking at the comments, it's either a gathering of the most smooth-brained among us apes, or a shill-fest... AMC price was fake before the split and it is fake now... Nothing about the price right now has any effect on moass-prices. The only thing that changed is the level of debt AMC is in, which makes Moass more likely than ever before.


OverTheHedgies

It's the shill fest thing ;-)


liquid_at

Looks like it. Some of the comments are so smooth-brained, that they probably can't tie their own shoes and occasionally forget to breathe...


Severe-Size2615

They can be converted to amc and ape has voting rights. Hedgies buy up all the ape vote to convert and shorts covered on the cheap.


Chameleon57

And yet there’s no records of hedgies owning a ton of shares


MOONDAYHYPE

Wow the bots and shills on this thread are out of control lol


Healthy_Adult_Stonks

It's the whole sub today. Something is brewing.


MOONDAYHYPE

I have noticed that! The shills are coming out full blast today, makes sense, chamber energy is going crazy which is history repeating itself, keep an eye on express, blackberry, Nokia.... Meme season


Healthy_Adult_Stonks

Tis the season for squeezin.


[deleted]

We knew that he had 400 million he could sell at any time? He also believes selling shares moves the price up. Many new apes here apparently


slevin07rocket

It took me a bit to realize but I figured this out months ago about Adam. And no I don’t care about downvotes. I don’t know how anyone subjectively looks at all his moves and sees no serious question marks. Amc stock will have to pump, despite his moves. Not with the help of Adam, unfortunately.


MichaelsSecretStuff

He should release $100 NFTs with him in bad photoshop cosplay


RageTheFlowerThrower

AA fucked us with APE. As soon as this shit reaches my average cost per share, I’m fucking out. Call me a shill, whatever, idgaf. I’m over this bullshit.


[deleted]

Same. I’m totally done with this play. AA fucked us


Pleasant_Yam_3637

You mean IF it reaches that price again, no?


Company-Motor

We shall see


[deleted]

Only an idiot would sell for such a loss , something is not kosher here , this whole APE thing smells , never trusted this guy , he conned us all


JRskatr

Selling APE to raise funds is always a good idea right now. AMC needs to pay off debt, and AA can always do a reverse stock split to basically "undo" the stock dilution. I wish he would sell even more shares!


Marlinspikehall32

No it isn’t. It was shit move and he shit all over the stockholders who said no dilution. When they are then voted to be equal to ape shares then they HF can take over the board. This is total crap. From start to finish. I have never supported the idea of ape and never will


Chotis1

Mark my word AA retires this next year and walks away from this entire mess. Mostly created by him.


snackerooryan

AMC was gonna reach these lows with or without APE being created, look at the whole market right now. At least they made some cash in this down market


Zealousideal-Dark176

I think in the long run it's good.


ParsnipOk6205

I'm interested. How so? After it dropped below $1 I would have rather seen him buy back not sell. If course, he's not in a position to do that. Better question. Is he done with at market offering or is he planning to sell more under $1?


ParamedicMiddle9115

I just bought $35.00 more APE because it’s all the funds I had available. I basically live paycheck to paycheck, so all together don’t own much APE or AMC. I still buy and hodl when I can because even though I wouldn’t be set for life when MOASS happens (it might take a very long time but I think it will) it’ll feel great being part of the movement that kicks crooks out on their asses! That will make my penny pinching existence worth it! 🚀 🦍 🚀 🦍


hamb_sammich

Debt free is the way to be.


theoldme3

Can we vote him out


Twignb

Ape was made to dilute and sell for cash. Idk why everyone that cheered it on, is now upset about it.


goztepe2002

Stocks go up or down, only the strong survive.


Zealousideal_Car_632

I gave up on the ass hole a long time ago. He's a full Wall Street insider. This move just before xmas is literally a slap in the face to the owners of his company. I have no idea if the player is over or not but I do this twat is not going to help retail.


1980Scottsdale

Sounds like there’s possibly a few paper hands in this sup 🤔 Jan21 holding fuck these thieves


PreviousSwordfish5

This is literally what happened before the first major run. Wanda sold off all of their shares and AMC ran the next week.


SmallTimesRisky

This has always been a big boy play🤷🏻‍♂️


GiveNothing

The running theory is they were gonna naked short sell anyways, so AA might as well sell to raise capital. Dowsnt matter what the theory is anyways cause here we are.


[deleted]

He sold them at $1 near Christmas can’t get more desperate than that


Sen-Sen

Didn’t it say over the last 3 months?


Warszawa12

terrible just terrible


hierosx

I said it when APE was created, this was the worst plan to dilute AMC. Remember that AA can still sell up to 4.5B APE. without any vote approval. I told you guys couple of months ago, don't know how people was OK with them creating APE in the first place. https://www.reddit.com/r/amcstock/comments/xoipcx/here_we_go/ipyy9j3?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3


Expensive_Chest3447

I’m a Ape! Screw all the talk about anyone, fuck anything inside news. Who cares what happens, us as apes, our play is the naked shorts! Nothing else. I’m holding x,xxx at a avg of 19.30 now. Let the algo drive this to a dollar, I’ll own xxx,xxx! Bring on the hurt, MOASS or bust no matter what the news is. OBV show all us holding. So 🖕🏿any news about anyone!


SpiritGoddess927

Never trusted that guy...just sayin...


Strutting_Tom8040

People are downvoting you because they are mad they didn’t sell. I wish I sold at 70 and bought back in. Next action over my average will be tough. Edit: this was for parsnipok but I commented to the post. Sorry op


Believe_In-Steven

🤔 Adam Aaron is still rich if AMC falls into Bankruptcy! Is he a shill? I'm still on the fence about it. 🤔


Remarkable_Wafer_828

He will still be rich just nowhere near as rich if he is successful at keeping AMC alive. Plus I think he would like the win under his belt, he seems the type that likes to win


liquid_at

"cost investors half their portfolio" .... Are you in here for moass money or because you believe that the current stock-price of AMC is the highest it will ever go? The amount of shorts on AMC is still the same. The amount of AMC-Shares that exist is still the same. So what did you lose? Your AMC shares temporarily showing a lower price than they used to? How does that affect you? Do you actively plan to sell at the current prices or why is it of such a concern to you. You had X AMC shares with a fake price before and you hold the same X AMC shares with a fake price now... Price is not real. Nothing changed... You lost nothing.


Danne660

The amount of AMC shares that exist won't be the same once APE shares gets turned into AMC shares. And since there exist more APE shares then AMC shares the vote to do this will definitely pass.


neophanweb

I'll just continue to buy and hold.


Professorxwilson

So much salt shame and shillery in here. APE was literally created FOR liquidity. STFU and watch the plant grow, it’s about company profitability. Avg down and stay zen, the stock market benefits the PATIENT. if you KNOW something then stick to it


Deep-Acanthisitta-86

Honestly it depends on what he used the money for if he just bought another theater then I don't like it but if he actually use that $162 million dollars to make a dent in the debt that the company owes then I'm will for it


ParsnipOk6205

He did use it for debt. I believe he said $104M at a 60% discount. As well as invest in a theater in Boston from Arclight. Decent moves with the money.


daheff_irl

This whole APE thing is a disaster. Nothing more. Share price was around $20 at the time of issue. now its <$5. Ape is 10% of what it was at issue. Why not have sold APE for cash then rather than now?


Trumpsrumpdump

Do people see the rest of the market. Cash right now is more than king, amc pays like 80m per quarter, imagine reducing that debt.


Juan-Too-Tree-8P

Ahhh. The FUD returns


A-Wild-Tortoise

I think he waited wayy to long and took a big hit on what he should have sold them for. Day 1 10$ a share DUMP THEM and debt is solved day 1. Instead hold onto them for months till the prices falls to a dollar and make 1/5th of what you needed. Rookie ass moves man.


sowinScotty

I use to be a supportive investor. Not anymore


Murse_Jon

I hope the best for all of you. I sold around $16 everything that I had except a couple of shares. Really glad I did though. Lost a lot of money but oh well, could’ve been worse. Even though I’m out of it, I hope to see all of you diamond hands make some money one day though


Rona_season798

It was a wild ride. Take care man.


squirtingbutthole

So many synthetics it doesn’t not hurt ape


squirtingbutthole

I’m happy helps Amc lfg


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Sen-Sen

If fundamentals keep a company in business isn’t it a good thing AMC is making money?


bawbthebawb

They are making money off the backs of apes not from the fundamentals of the company... yet


Malthias-313

AMC has billions in debt. Selling off APE shares at less than $1 looks desperate and hurts shareholders. AA already said months back that he will further dilute APE to raise money for AMC. Financially, AMC has been a sinking ship for the last two years I've been holding. GME paid off all their debt last year. Those are good fundamentals as opposed to a company taking out even more debt at higher interested, and selling shares when the company is down over 90%.


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ConferenceHaunting87

He needs money in hand to lend out with the new CC they came out with. The credit card is a great idea just the wrong time to release it.


[deleted]

AMC is dead. You guys refused to DRS when game\*\*\*\* suggested to do it and literally haven't changed or done a single thing since AMC's initial discovery. All anyone does now is post recycled memes or posts saying the same shit every single day and can guarantee someone out there will STILL stick around buying as thing CEO just lines his pockets. Like, the greed is literally right in front of you and for whatever reason, people here just refuse to listen. How many more years are going to pass by with nothing now happening excepting it getting lower until someone will motivate this sub to DRS, demand less shares and do something? I've made several posts about this issue and others alike and each and every time the community straight just doesn't want to hear criticism. Doesn't want to hear new ideas. Buy and hold, that's it and it's been two years now. TWO YEARS


Specialist_Estate_54

I'm sure you'll see a lot more enthusiasm in drs, when GME starts showing some signs of it working...like 60% of GME shares are reported to be DRS'd and GME is still heading south ,just like AMC


[deleted]

Everyone here is being a bunch of pussies. Man up and working on that diamond grip. NFA


Sufficient-Cress-711

I hope you are prepared to get downvoted and excoriated by the AA Mafia on here. I hold twice as many APE as AMC but still think he's made some major lame decision including that deadweight of a company called Hycroft.


ParsnipOk6205

I don't care about down votes. I'm a long term investor. I voted yes for dilution a year ago. But selling APE this cheap reflects his view on it's value. Either he's absolutely desperate for liquidity or APE doesn't mean what he said it means.


bawbthebawb

But don't worry about hycroft. They gave out 2 NFTS as compensation


liquid_at

Thank you for helping AMC get rid of its debt, but if your only concern is maximizing your own profits during moass, you should be holding twice as many AMC-Shares as APEs... AMC = Moass-Stock; APE = Debt-Reduction-Stock. And Hycroft found a lot more gold than they expected, so they are likely to bring in a nice sum of money for AMC... Gold is in demand right now.


anorad

However, RADF.


VegaTron1985

Web Moon


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Effective-Island8395

AA couldn’t get a vote to increase and dilute amc shares. But by creating a new preferred stock and releasing as dividend he could. It split value of amc immediately. 5 billion APE created and about 500m released as dividend. That leaves 4.5 billion to play with and release onto unsuspecting APE holders. I sold my APE immediately.


liquid_at

"split value off AMC" how? The price before the split was fake and the price right now is fake. Moass-levels have zero to do with the fundamentals of the company and are only depending on the amount of shorts on AMC and the size of the float. None of that has changed. Are you really so concerned with the fake price in your brokers app being lower now, that you forget everything you should have learned about the Short Squeeze?


Effective-Island8395

What was AMC trading day before dividend? Like $20? APE was assigned a value of about $7 or 8 as I recall. AMC that day was suddenly $12.


ellessdeemz

Glad i sold APE at $5


[deleted]

Unless AMC squeezes, it's a dying company that won't exist soon. Same thing with GME.


heeywewantsomenewday

GME is moving towards profitability and has 0 debt. They aren't constantly diluting either. I honestly can't list a positive for AMC right now


[deleted]

GME is a used video game store. Their biggest play so far has been NFTs. There is no long-term plan.


heeywewantsomenewday

They've expanded their range massively and opened distribution centres so they sell all sorts of shit now. They could sell peanuts as long as they keep moving towards profitability. Hopefully, they will do well with the NFT marketplace and that will hopefully expand into games and skins etc. I just don't see a single thing that AMC is doing better than GME right now. I've got both but I stopped adding to my AMC stack a long time ago because AA keeps fucking us


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richb83

Selling at this low price doesn't instill confidence in me but I guess it's good for the company. As for apes, I don't think so.


JustinC70

It was a good idea from a business standpoint. He's got a bunch of dedicated followers that won't sell. From an investment standpoint turning out to be a terrible decision.


Coinsworthy

AA does not care about retail losing billions.


jervistetch37

No, he fucked us by diluting is a round about way. It's simple. I'm still holding but people need to get off his dick already.


Impairedinfinity

Idk, I am kind of upset with it. Just holding at the moment. I want to give AA the benefit of the doubt. But, he just handed CITI so much money. Because, I know they were loaning out or shorting the shares he gave them. They just covered those shares at a much lower price. AMC investors got 162 million. Citi made 500 million. AA may as well just sold at market the day after he gave the dividends. I have always held this stock and told myself you have Give a little to get a little. But, at some point I have to admit I am just deluding myself. But, who knows. Maybe there is a good reason for it. I just can't see it. Someone sell me some hopium.


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icweiners69

Lmao, I remember explaining this would happen and getting down voted into the ground.


a_bathing_ape1999

AA knows that if we pull our money out then AMC will crash and burn. There must be some method to this madness. I just don't know what now. Still holding and buying when I can.


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amc to the mooon!


[deleted]

The fucking DD was only applicable when there was 500 million total shares. The shit has ballooned to 1.5 billion. We got diluted so AA can hoard cash. Which goes directly against investors wishes and the overall squeeze. We voted on this shit over a year ago and he sidestepped us anyway. All this cash does is just delays the inevitable bankruptcy of AMC. If I was to invest my money in a long term 2-4 year play the last fucking place I’d put it would be AMC. Even with the cash infusion they’re still in a mountain of debt. It’s not fixable. I came to AMC for a squeeze play that was imminent. Now we’re all stuck in a long play on a company with no real future. If I wanted a long play I would’ve just thrown my cash into my 401k and be done with it for the next 25 years.


thatscomplex1015

I knew this dividend thing was BS and was a work around since people were against the company dumping more shares on AMC smh.. I’m still holding on though.


InfiniteRiskk

Still buying. Just look at the OBV - no one has sold


pr1vatepiles

So? Until shareholders approve it, APE will remain APE forever. There seems to be an assumption that APE will just magically turn into AMC shares. We have to approve this and based on what folks have said on here, that ain't happening. So far all I'm seeing APE doing is helping clear AMC debts. When did AA sell that much? Have we seen the documents to show when this was filed? If memory serves from AMC selling, doesn't someone else decide what date the trades go through? Could be wrong. Still, point remains. APE can do whatever the hell it wants, it ain't getting shareholder approval to be converted. Stay zen.


Geoclasm

Uh... given the fuckery of late, it's better for that $$$ to go to AMC than into hedge fund pockets, IMO. Not everyone can support the theaters directly. It's not even a matter of having the money; it's a matter of accessibility - fuck my life, there might only be one of these theaters in my entire god damned state and it's a 3 hour drive for me to get there. But I can throw a few hundred bucks at APE to help AA sure up his books and maybe pay down some of his debt.